#3445 RHOC S20E01 Part One: Speak From The Heart

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4:03Ben Mandelker: I'm excited. It's a new season of A Real Housewives. This is our vacation week, but we had access to the screen a little earlier, so we decided to record this premiere ahead of time because it's too important to scuttle on vacation week. So we'll just pretend like we're recording it on the proper day that it came out, to which I say, I can't believe they just did that thing on Love Island last night. When she did that thing, when What's Her Face did that thing to him, I was like, what? And then he was like, no, but I really am into you. I was like, what a dick, right?

4:41Ronnie Karam: I quit it. It's like, bye. Bye, Love Island. I quit you two weeks ago. Bye. Hate ya.

4:51Ben Mandelker: Oh, my God. And In the City this week, that was crazy. When Kenny was acting all Manosphere and then Lindsay was like, who do you think you're talking to? I was like, yes, Lindsay.

5:01Ronnie Karam: yes queen it's so crazy that kyle and amanda got into a fight i never saw that coming whoa oh my god what a wild time and on the valley i just was so happy that the valley finally had an uplifting

5:15Ben Mandelker: episode i was like we waited all season wow that's really what a week that's really putting

5:21Ronnie Karam: some psychic energy out there what a week on bravo um no but let me tell you what happened And actually, in the past, which is today for you guys, I had a visit. A couple of things happened. First, I had wasps in my house and I got stung by one, which I guess is. Was it Connecticut? It was Heather and her mother. And then I got a ding dong at my door. And I was like, you know what? Why yell at people through the ring camera today? Why not be a decent person? I just got stung. let's see what they're let's see what they're selling you guys for someone jesus okay i got this pamphlet um or happiness you were invited to attend eternal happiness 2026 convention of jehovah's witnesses i guess i don't know i guess that's not jesus is that jehovah jehovah's hot too i have to say isn't jehovah jesus is he i don't know i don't know i've never been to a convention his hair is shorter

6:22Ben Mandelker: do you want to stop celebrating holidays because that convention would be the one for you

6:30Ronnie Karam: drama the good news according to jesus watch jesus teach the crowds to combine to find a convention near you guys this is july 3rd july 4th july 5th people are going to be kind of busy i'm warning you right now they're going to be busy you not hear what i just said well no holidays no holidays but if you're trying to get people you know you want to get people who are not with you yet they're probably eating hot dogs and you know blowing off the fucking fireworks in their cul-de-sacs and aiding them at people's homes yeah am i right everyone talk about crazy wasps

7:07Ben Mandelker: wasps things you know it would be i feel like if they had come over and they happen to have had some sort of like ointment for you you'd be like guess what guys i'm a jehovah's witness now it

7:15Ronnie Karam: was a sign yeah maybe although i'll tell you i don't need ointment and what i discovered today is i'm a really manly guy i didn't cry you know what i said god damn it and then i ran around i ran around in circles and then i got tweezers to try and pull out the little thingy little stinger thing and i couldn't reach it because i don't really have flexibility stay still so then i thought well fuck it it'll come out on its own because i'm a man yeah and then are you a little itch there but it's not so bad considering how big the fucker was i'm okay i don't know why i'm still talking about it my point is i'm just proud of myself i'm proud i was nice to people

7:55Ben Mandelker: and i got stung and feel okay yeah you're doing great work i've never been stung by a wasp or a hornet although there was one time when i was like a kid i thought there was a mosquito behind me and i reached behind me to like shoot away and i felt and like i i felt like a little burning sensation. Maybe I had like squished like a little baby bee in my fingers. I'm not sure. It's unconfirmed. But now I'm actually terrified of getting stung because I don't know if I'm going to have an allergic reaction because I have no idea. Like if I get stung, I want to be in the presence of people who could help me in case I am allergic because I have no idea if I'm allergic.

8:30Ben Mandelker: And I'm not, I mean, it seems like a lot to go to an allergist just to find out. But I just, I steer clear as soon as possible. This is a good way to say that uh speaking of dangerous stinging things real housewives of orange county is back and um we're off to a brand new season what'd you think about the season premiere by the way and by the way patreon.com slash bunch of crapens yeah it was wasn't it i thought it was fun and i

8:53Ronnie Karam: love that the fashions just get worse and worse on this show i mean the fashions are really terrible on this show and i'm not a fashion gay i'm an old navy gay i'm a marshals slash old navy family gay okay and even i was like wow holy fifth grade catechism shannon what are we doing today what

9:13Ben Mandelker: are we doing the whole and also the fact that the last like 20 minutes of the show looked like the finale of carrie it was just everything was red it was like red red red red red i was like i understand there's some sort of like balance unspoken valentine's day theme going on here but just like the whole screen was red for an eternity it was like eternal happiness but the red version it was so much it was hard to look at for me it was a lot of right valentine's day

9:40Ronnie Karam: does not mean that you need to have red lights shining right on top of you i know the whole cast look like hot dogs at the 7-eleven hot dog stand you know that are just rolling and they

9:49Ben Mandelker: looked in the red light and tamra was trying to dress on theme but she looked like she was actually dressing for christmas it's a it really is actually a fine line between santa garb and valentine's garb and like she crossed over to the wrong holiday by accident which i thought was funny

10:05Ronnie Karam: yes and of course tamra comes back yeah i can't believe i've been so mean to me

10:14Ben Mandelker: it's a victim victim season for tamra starting no it's a growth like i'm growing a better season i uh but i found i felt that was all very comforting oddly enough i was like yes of course tamra is having this season this is the this is the rhythm of tamra she has a season where she's loud and she gets into fights then just a season where she's like i'm learning i'm going and then it goes back the pendulum swings and we have the same fights that we always have which is that you talk about someone while you're in front of them but not when you're behind their backs and it's always gina and emily leading the charge now they've recruited jen into their army of stirring shit up between the ogs it's like in one way it's very annoying like honestly like the moment that Emily and Gina and Jen started doing that with Heather and Tamara.

11:02Ben Mandelker: I was like, oh god, fuck these ladies. But at the same time, I was like, but this is the natural cadence of this show. This is the rhythm. You know, it's like the sun rises, the sun sets.

11:13Ronnie Karam: Are you going to get mad at a cow for licking a calf's ear? No, because it's nature.

11:18Ben Mandelker: That's nature. And part of nature is that Gina's going to insert herself into other people's drama and then insist that they confront each other and then do it for them and cause a shit show and then be like, I feel bad.

11:29Ronnie Karam: I feel bad. So here we are. When they had an I feel bad in Gina's first scene, I died. I could not. I said, you know what? Thank you, heaven.

11:37Ben Mandelker: Thank you for looking out for us. She even mixed it up. At one point, she even said, I feel badly. I was like, okay. And she did that.

11:44Ronnie Karam: And I felt like part of her was like, don't say I feel bad. Do not say I feel bad. I feel badly. I'm going to use the adverb.

11:53Ben Mandelker: I feel bad that I never use the adverb. So I'm going to use the adverb. Isn't it? Yeah. She said it three times, I think, over the course of the episode, including the badly version. The variant. I feel bad. I just feel bad about it.

12:08Ronnie Karam: I was like, oh my god, Gina. I feel bad because I don't want anyone to feel bad at the reunion. You know, that's not how people should feel at the reunion.

12:19Ben Mandelker: But I'll tell you one thing. I've got to say, Heather Dubrow, to me, she's the gift that keeps on giving. The way I laugh with every single scene she does, her insistence that she is entering her fun era, her like, I'm relaxed era, and then spends the majority of the episode berating people. I just love that kind of bullshit. I am in my fun era. Who said that I inherited any money? oh god and her mom oh god the mom is gonna be like why do we have to wait 20 years to get heather's mom to be like like a like a big season character like this mom is gonna be a nightmare

13:02Ronnie Karam: for heather i can't wait we split up note-taking today you know one of us does half half the episode the other does the other half and i died when i finished and the next scene was heather and her mother i was like oh ben it's like a gift so good you see the universe is looking out for you

13:22Ben Mandelker: it is because it's just like it's like uh like pseudo waspy westchester mom daughter i mean that's what i was raised around so it's very exciting for me and then on top of that like we had a scene i think two seasons ago where heather was with her mom and her mom is just her mom is sharp as a tack also 84 shocking i i would have pegged her as being a 62 and uh and her mom is like she is like the the ultimate boss like we always thought heather heather debra would be like the the final boss no the mom is the final boss and watching heather go up against her mom and her mom like she's just never gonna be able to beat her mom ever and it's gonna be

14:05Ronnie Karam: such a joy to watch all season long it really is so let's get going real housewives of orange county season 20 episode one um we open with lots of old housewives clips because it's an anniversary season okay um we hear lots of like oh and the og of the oc and stuff like that we see vicky getting a video call from gina this is in regular time and they tricked us because they're like look it's the old days vicky and her phone getting a call and you're like who is it but then it turns

14:36Ben Mandelker: out it's now the montage was trying to be like look how many how so many things have changed and yet so many things have stayed the same i thought it was like it was a weird montage i felt like that i didn't i was hoping for a better like look how far we've come montage like the trying to like they were kind of melding the past and the present together in a way i was like i see what you're doing here i didn't really feel like they stuck the landing on this i'm sorry to say

15:04Ronnie Karam: um well gina's still here so i'll tell you gina is here yeah talk about not talk about not sticking landings gina kiao still here so she's calling vicky and also getting the short shrift i mean gina should be on the cast why not just bring everybody why just bring vicky

15:20Ben Mandelker: yeah yeah well gina's gonna we know that gina will be sauntering into the show at some point because we saw her in the trailer, but maybe it'll just be for one episode. But I do think that Gina should sort of be lumbering through with her casual, you know, so I saw you were at the supermarket today. How's that going? You know, like she just sort of like does a little check-in.

15:41Ronnie Karam: Well, Tanner really said something mean to me a few years ago. I'd like to discuss. I got Gina, geez. So Vicky's like, hey, girl, can't believe it's 20 years. Well, get a job. Get a job. Get out of traffic. Get out of traffic. It's your best day to drive like that. Yeah.

16:00Ben Mandelker: And then we see lots of clips. We see the kids growing up. We do have that amazing season finale music, which was used in the very first series premiere to great extent. And now is...

16:12Ronnie Karam: Da-na-na-na-na-na. Da-na-na-na-na. Da-na-na-na-na. Da-na-na-na-na. Da-na-na-na-na. Da-na-na-na-na. Da-na-na-na. No.

16:24Ben Mandelker: tried to take it up a notch but i couldn't scores my life it's so good such good music yeah the finale music and i love that someone finally put it on youtube so we can always hear it you know oh i didn't know so good it's so good every single subscribe subscriber incoming

16:42Ronnie Karam: sometimes i'll just do that

16:47Ben Mandelker: i'll just put it on like while i'm doing chores and i'll just pretend like there's some sort of words on screen talking about what I'm up to these days. These days, Ben is still cooking in the kitchen, but what he's not cooking is up anyone's bullshit, because he's an independent person now. And she's like, toasting something.

17:06Ben Mandelker: It's really... It fits so well.

17:13Ronnie Karam: Ronnie wonders if he cuts his nails in a curved way, will he still get ingrown toenails? And then there's usually a proclamation of, I'm not happy with how this went, but it's where we're going, and I'm fine with that.

17:28Ben Mandelker: And everyone will have to be fine with that,

17:30Ronnie Karam: because I have children. Ronnie got stung by a wasp and visited by Jehovah's Witnesses. Or did he sting Jehovah's Witnesses and get visited by a wasp?

17:42Ben Mandelker: Ben had a bagel this morning, but he's feeling old. See what I did there? W-H-O-L-E. Bagel? That was crunchy. Cheesy.

17:56Ben Mandelker: It's a great piece of music.

17:59Ronnie Karam: Okay, it's solid. So Vicky's like, can you believe, girl? It's been 20 years. And then we see Vicky's clips, which are surprising Mike at college. He's horrified. When Brianna didn't tell her she was getting married, she just eloped with that gross guy in Vegas. And God hates divorce. God hates divorce. What am I supposed to know? what am i supposed to do with that maybe not cheating on him with some guy at the fucking you know convention the insurance convention named brooks allegedly yeah

18:31Ben Mandelker: how about that uh yeah we see all that stuff we see the the broken bow on the cake we see that's my opinion all the great moments um how far we've come uh we saw that famous moment with gina just kidding there is none um so uh it was a great great little montage i love the part where they

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21:39Ronnie Karam: Vicky is telling Gina, she's like, you know what? The last thing I'm going to do now is fight at this time of my life. I'm just, it's a different Vicky. It's Vicky 20.0. You're going to see a different person this time. And then we see that she's going to be fighting. Yeah. Cuts to Vicky. shut up i'm out there god hate you yeah well uh gina like leave your phone on because if i get

22:02Ben Mandelker: into a pickle i'm gonna need to call you okay well i mean that has to be an awfully big pickle i mean how how how small did you get on those mpick i mean a pickle is really it's like no it's it's an expression gina okay pray for me lord knows i'm gonna be it i'm gonna need the luck

22:15Ronnie Karam: pray for me uh so uh then we're in puerto vallarta and vicky's on the beach with shannon stumbling up to her just vicky and shannon just stumbling all over the place together and falling down and holding on to each other seems half put on but half totally believable and i crack up every single time i don't even care yeah normally i would say oh they're just doing that intentional

22:40Ben Mandelker: wackiness but i in this case i did believe when they toppled over later in the scene i was like i actually do believe that they fell over in that sand i don't think that they work well on even surfaces. So they're sitting together. They've got these two chairs on the beach. Sort of funny. We're celebrating 20 years at Orange County. We started off in a foreign country. But Shannon's like, oh, the beach. How do you walk on this? It's rocks. It's sand. It's infrared. It's ultra. It's x-rays. The sun gives x-rays. It's like a sun. I'm an MRI, too. I am scared. I am melting. Am I even a whole person?

23:17Ben Mandelker: Okay, all right, Shannon, come down. Just take a seat. Okay Hello to you too Grumpy

23:22Ronnie Karam: Well here's your pesos back I went to the Bunko You went to play Bunko? Where'd you find Bunko? Don't even call it here It's on a cop Where's Bunko? Show me where Bunko is Bunko Oh the Bunko Oh okay Yeah I know where that is Yeah right there Okay You know what so Shannon What are you gonna move down here with me? What are you gonna move down? Check Well this is just a flippin' vacation Always sunny Being on a beach Have you guys seen where you live? You live where it's always sunny And you're on a beach Go to Switzerland.

23:51Ben Mandelker: I just wish we had access to coastal experiences. So she's like, you know what? I broke a coffee cup. I didn't even care. Thank you for littering on the beach. Oh, I guess it's... Okay, I'm still waking up. In my mind, I was thinking she had a styrofoam coffee cup and she clenched it and it broke. So she left it on the sand. She just broke a... She dropped a mug. But she had like usual suspects moment up in her apartment earlier today, I guess.

24:17Ronnie Karam: And I couldn't tell if she was talking about herself or Shannon because Shannon's like, oh, well, it's just a flipping vacation. I see a different Vicky here. She goes, yeah. Like you broke a coffee cup. I didn't even care. I was like, ooh, is this like Shannon woke up and broke one of Vicky's coffee cups? Oh, that's what it is. Vicky stayed calm about it. I couldn't tell. But Shannon's like, well, you are lighter here. You are lighter here. They don't use pads the same. They don't use pads the same. Thankfully.

24:44Ben Mandelker: It's a great thing about the country. Different metrics. Yes, you're right. That is what Vicky was saying. And I just am deranged this morning. I have too much coffee in me. So Vicky is like, yeah, it feels good to be back. I wrote the notes. No, no.

24:58Ronnie Karam: I'm arguing with my own notes. I'm like, hmm, between what I wrote and what I saw, which makes more sense.

25:06Ben Mandelker: No, I'm deranged. And I also watched the show late at night. So who knows what my brain is doing to me. but we do see Vicky holding up an orange and she goes like feels good to be back this is definitely a woohoo moment I'm definitely different than when I was a housewife and

25:21Ronnie Karam: we just see a quick look at her yelling at the producers going really fuck off slamming the door in their face

25:30Ben Mandelker: buying a house in Mexico best decision because I don't want them coming here but I'll go there I'm like okay it's just it's so funny to me like her her political leanings and then so happy just to be like, oh, best decision I ever made was moving to Mexico. Isn't that great?

25:48Ronnie Karam: Suddenly, I love immigration. I love the other way immigration. Yeah, other way immigration is totally fine for her. Here's a picture of Vicky in her final yelling at the producers thing. I will never forget this picture. Just Vicky, the door is slit

26:03Ben Mandelker: open and Vicky screams. It's a great, horrifying, scary image. Um, so, uh, Vicky is, then, then there's like an airplane, like a flying off back to who knows where. And she goes, oh, look, all those poor people are leaving Mexico. Bye losers. Bye. You have to leave.

26:27Ronnie Karam: Uh, she tells us that her and her boyfriend, Mike, live in Cota de Casa, but they also go back and forth between La Quinta and my favorite place on earth, Puerto Vallarta. So, you know what? I got to give a Spanish shot because I can't even roll my tongue. Like, they all roll their tongue. How are you supposed to do that?

26:46Ben Mandelker: Oh, well, so can I bring my two dogs down? Can I bring them down here? And she's like, no, no, no. I don't let dogs down here. No, you can't do that. She's like, oh, well, the dog psychic said Archie needs a brother. So I got him a brother. And she's like, yeah. Well, do you do everything the psychic says? Do you need two big hairy dogs that eat your passport up? Because that's weird. That's weird.

27:08Ronnie Karam: Well, I got a new passport So I wouldn't blame Troy for it Poor Troy! Okay, I got a new dog named Troy He claws through everything Even I chew through everything Even my last bucket of butterflies Wow

27:22Ben Mandelker: Oh, that's I guess I just attract men who chew through things Like my heart

27:29Ronnie Karam: Sorry, you know The girls are out of the house And I do get lonely But I go out to dinner With myself And two dogs

27:38Ben Mandelker: I have been known to To make a scene at the gastropop And say Troy why did you make me eat this Short rib with a sugary glaze On it What kind of birthday is this Troy

27:52Ronnie Karam: Troy's just slowly eating a potato chip Watching her

27:58Ben Mandelker: But then also her chair leg So then Vicky's like oh wait hold on look Those guys look okay hey Can you guys can you massage our feet Yay, thank you. Imagine if those people were just like people just walking on the beach. That's what I was thinking.

28:11Ronnie Karam: You know Mickey does this to like random passersby on the beach. Hey, you want to wash my feet? You want to wash my feet? Like, fuck no. Lady Jesus, I'm on vacation. Sorry. Jeez, God. You want to wash my feet?

28:25Ben Mandelker: Wait, you do this every day? What? Muy sucio. What? I mean, well, wow. I'm sorry. I've got sand on my feet. Are you still willing to touch me or am I just hideous to you right now? You're willing to touch me. Wow. This is beautiful.

28:41Ronnie Karam: Hold on. Let me take the sphinx off my feet. I've got three pairs. It's just going to be a minute. Popped one right in the face.

28:49Ben Mandelker: Sorry, I warned you. Let me just take off my sock. I'm just kidding. It's not a sock. It's just a Sara Lee's cheesecake I stepped in earlier. Okay, let me just brush that off.

28:59Ronnie Karam: This is so beautiful, Vicky. to live like this every day, having strange men rubbing your feet. And she's like, thank you. I worked hard for it. Yeah. You know, Mike and I argue all the time. He says, where's your identity? What is that? But you know what? Works all I've ever known. I still work 10, 12, 15, 30, 90 hours a day sometimes. Really. I look all the time. I just can't stop working. I don't believe you. You're on the beach. I'm like literally sitting here on the beach. I think you're delegating. I think you're delegating. And good for you. You know, you should be in your retirement. and delegating, but she can't let go of the, like, I work, I work, all I do is work.

29:34Ronnie Karam: These poor feet and I are probably fucking sick of hearing it. Like, lady, I'm rubbing your feet on a beach and you're complaining about work.

29:42Ben Mandelker: I know. I think actually Mike, I think, said work is your identity, but I do like him asking a existential question. Where is your identity, Victoria? Like, I don't know. Is it the state farm office? um but also the other thing is that the two of them sitting here on the beach it kind of reminded me of like barb and star go to vista del mar a little bit but it also reminded me of like every movie i've seen where two women get swindled by two handsome con men who are working together i'm like i'm just waiting for them to like come back to orange county and have only like three

30:17Ronnie Karam: dollars to their time yes um so then they get their feet done and then they get up and vicky He goes, okay, hey, guys, you know what? We'll pay you in a bit. Okay, bye. No. What? No, ma 'am. Put it on my foot tab? No. No, you better. They should push her down and take her whatever. I don't think she has a purse, but take her flip-flops until she pays you. I want to take something.

30:43Ben Mandelker: Yeah, seriously. So she goes, the dos amigas are good. It's much better than the tres amigas. Sometimes when we're busy, we don't get to see each other as much. But whenever we do see each other It's like no time has passed Now I'm going to pause for laughter At anyone Associating me with getting busy Because I just I stay at home with my dogs And do nothing I place a dog good

31:09Ronnie Karam: So they're walking on the beach And like leaning on each other And stumbling around And Vicky's like oh my god It wasn't hot earlier Why did I put on my shoes Oh my god hold me up and they fall down are you kidding me right now

31:30Ben Mandelker: so then we finally go up to orange county and heather arrives at a place where you dye scarves and the guy who's running it i believe was our tour guide in ireland ronnie i was like is that brian is that brian who showed us enya's house he looked just like him

31:48Ronnie Karam: I'd love to introduce you to scarves Now, we don't talk bad about people here But the English stole the scarves from us and our children I'm sorry Bono wore the scarf Go back to dyeing the scarves with the blood of our children That the English got Okay, whoa, whoa Can I just make a scarf? Jeez

32:11Ben Mandelker: My second thought was How long before we hear a story of you saying that you saw this you saw this little workshop and then you brought your nieces to one in austin and then now you have all scar all sorts of scarves i was like this seems like such a ronnie craft it looks really fun no it's not a diss i'm just saying like i feel like ronnie is like already looking up where he could do this scarf activity i would do that i'm not much of a scarf

32:33Ronnie Karam: person yet but you know what i always said i wasn't a culottes person guess what i'm wearing right now so you never know where age is gonna take you they're the gateway drug to scarves no

32:45Ben Mandelker: but i imagine you like dying scarves and then like like maybe like framing it or something making it like a wall some sort of like piece for your wall no that's a good idea actually maybe i

32:55Ronnie Karam: will yeah i would maybe i will because you know what i love when i was a kid time i loved spin art when i was a kid oh it was the best get that little piece of paper going

33:08Ben Mandelker: really fast you had the little drops oh i love the spin i mean talk about like that's how you really know a little boy is gay he's like can i play the spin on again i don't want to do i still do it well i do the draw on the pour art you know where you pull a bunch of paints

33:24Ronnie Karam: into a cup and layer them and then you pour it and then you spin the thing around or you tilt it that's for whatever i'm really into that i even watch videos on it where i just watch people

33:34Ben Mandelker: pour paint on video super leading you know what i also loved right here you know what i also loved when I was a kid, did you have one of those things where it was almost like a book but it had a big circle that was cut out of it and you put a disc in a circle, it had little shapes in it and it would do you put your pen in the shape it would usually be like a circle and you would draw the circle and move the whole disc over and so when you were done you had a ring of circles or a ring of little triangle shapes and you make all these circular drawings of patterns you could not pull me away from that thing

34:10Ronnie Karam: Well, you just need to open a store. Just figure out a way to transfer that onto women's clothing, and you could be Phil.

34:17Ben Mandelker: If it's art, and it's circular, and it's symmetric, I am in.

34:24Ronnie Karam: Well, I have friends coming to this, Phil, and we were going to be dying scarves. Heather's happy face is so scary. Her eyes are so intense, and she's like, look at me. Happy Heather. Cannot wait to try your scarf Dying Phil and wife

34:43Ben Mandelker: Wow I'm so It's so great because before we donate Things to the poor we're actually going to paint them First

34:53Ronnie Karam: No Rita You don't have to lay down I didn't mean I was going to Paint an actual poor For the poor

34:59Ben Mandelker: Painting for the poor Scarves for the poor Painted by Heather

35:04Ronnie Karam: So Gina comes in a trench coat so i don't know why it was so funny i just love gina's new real estate outfits because some of them are so bad this one was actually really nice but the brown number that she does her confessionals in is just so it's not good it's not good gina of course it's gina so you know i don't expect a good fashion i expect the bad fashion so i could just shake my head and smile because you know gina's been on here like a decade now and at this point it's like oh wow there she obvious it's there she goes again yeah here she goes again good for her trying for a look

35:41Ben Mandelker: yeah she comes in looking like mcgruff the crime dog and she's like hi yes like and so heather's like oh my god congratulations let me see that ring i hold on uh do we have any uh magnifying glasses does your trench coat have a magnifying glass okay i just need to take a look i still Oh, my God. What is this? The size of a dissected pea? I can't even see the jewel. It's so small and so poor.

36:10Ronnie Karam: Oh, my God. I almost forgot. I have a ring. I got a ring now. Oh, my God. I'm in my engagement era. Well, Gina's ring live and in person. Gorgeous. Gorgeous. I mean, I do think, do I think that's a natural lab or a diamond lab? Saw a lot of rainbows. It's a lot of rainbows.

36:33Ben Mandelker: I am just happy that she found a vending machine that worked for her. So Gina's like, yeah, Travis worked with a designer to come up with a prototype because there was a possibility that I might not like the ring, which means this ring is like, yeah, this is fake as fuck. It's a prototype ring.

36:54Ronnie Karam: Did I invite you to my party yet? Hearts and heels, right? Hearts and heels. Get it? Hearts, heels. You're a heel. A heel with a heart.

37:08Ben Mandelker: I only have one of those things. You have to guess which one.

37:11Ronnie Karam: So Gina's like, yeah, because it's like Valentine's.

37:15Ben Mandelker: I love Gina. Oh, you get it. Thank God. You get it.

37:20Ben Mandelker: You caught on to this one much better than my Mr. Mrs. Claus party. That was for Russia, Shauna. It was for Christmas. It was for Christmas. Keep up.

37:32Ronnie Karam: Why don't you celebrate Christmas? Jesus was Jewish.

37:39Ben Mandelker: Skip, Gina. I'm with a big heart out. You know what this group needs? Fun. What? And games. That's what we need. You know what? You know what this group needs? Fun and games. And of course, I am the person that should bring it to the masses. Me, Heather Dubrow. Heather, fun bro. More like it.

38:01Ronnie Karam: We also need to be reminded, who's the richest one here? Okay. And I have a huge party every season where I spend more money than any of you spend on your mortgages. A giant party that feels oddly empty and tries so hard to be fun and yet still is quite dull.

38:19Ben Mandelker: Okay. See you there.

38:21Ronnie Karam: So Tamara comes in. She's like, Hey, guys. A little awkward. Whatever. What's going on? It's a fun idea, but I'm not really a kid. I can't ride, I can't sing, I can't try I can't do nothing Yeah, none of those works

38:39Ben Mandelker: So they start doing this scarf art And then of course, Cameron's like

38:43Ronnie Karam: Mine looks like nipples

38:44Ben Mandelker: And Heather's like, wow, it looks like the wind

38:53Ben Mandelker: What a strange assessment Wow, she's like the wind

38:59Ronnie Karam: You know what? I am the wind I went to Bali and it turns out I'm the wind

39:07Ben Mandelker: What does that mean? That's I never knew the wind was so poor looking So Tamara's like

39:16Ronnie Karam: The only thing that I can think of is that Heather saw the scoff making on TikTok Cause this girl is obsessed with TikTok And we see Heather's TikTok Wow look at me I'm on TikTok

39:29Ben Mandelker: This is almost as exciting as the HD network.

39:36Ronnie Karam: And so Tamara's like, of course you heard about it on TikTok. Because it cuts to Heather being like, I saw this on TikTok. Isn't it adorable?

39:46Ben Mandelker: And then the lady who's working there is like, well, nice job with your scarves. I'm just going to put them into some Ziplocs. I was like, okay, enjoy that wet Ziploc of fabric. will catch you on the mold side. She's like, by the way, I've made some I put a tray of supermarket celery and crudités on the side there on a stool, so enjoy eating it amongst the paint.

40:09Ronnie Karam: This was a very funny Heather snack. She's like, let's have some little snackies. It just cuts to celery. Wow, delicious. This is another Heather event. Wow, so I haven't seen you guys in a while. So Tamara, are you here to burn a dune? You're here to burn a dune. And we see a clip of Jeff Lewis' show Where Jeff is like, well, you have a sharp tongue sometimes, Tamara And she's like, yeah, well, after having tweeted me last year I'm just going to blow things up this time I'm like, you guys are nothing, my friends Fuck all you guys, I'm going to burn you dead I'm killing everybody this season I'm going to run you down the street, bitch And then it cuts back to Tamara She's like, no, that was just a joke Come on, guys, what are you talking about?

40:53Ben Mandelker: Cheers, cheers, sorry we have to interrupt the story to remind people that I am very fun. Cheers everyone. Oh my god. So Tamara, that was all just a joke? Because when you say things like no one was there for you, I feel bad. Because I don't want you... That's right, quote. I don't want that to be an interpretation of last year when we all took a picture without you and then you were left alone. You were crying. I feel bad that you were left out of

41:20Ronnie Karam: the thing that you were left out of. I'm real bad that you were like so upset That we were accusing you of calling bloggers Like hello Do you guys remember the end of last season I don't think Tamara's like Miss Innocent In anything but you guys Jumped on Team Gretchen Of all fucking people that Disgusting trash And then let Slade call with a voice changer To be like oh hello It is me blogger from the internet Tamara has been Leaking things to me

41:53Ben Mandelker: And Heather's like, did you feel that way? Did you feel left out? And Tamara's like, yes

41:59Ronnie Karam: Because when everybody leaves me and takes a good picture And I'm just sitting there and left to do nothing but call the bloggers How did you know this would feel? Well, when we're taking a picture I have no idea what's happening Because I'm only thinking about myself But, you know Sorry if that hurt you And Tamara's like while I was just sitting there on the couch. I was crying my eyes out. And then you guys, you went to dinner with Gretchen. I mean, wow.

42:28Ben Mandelker: But Heather does that thing where she goes, I invited you to dinner. I invited you. I did. She's like, nah, no, I didn't.

42:39Ronnie Karam: Gina asked me, she's like, hey, stupid. You're going to dinner. Nobody wants you. And I was like, I didn't even know there was dinner.

42:48Ben Mandelker: Make no mistake, bitch. I know exactly who Heather Dubrow is, but this last year has been really difficult with our friendship. Her actions are different than her words. I mean, Tamara, of all people, saying that.

43:02Ronnie Karam: I, Heather Dubrow, have never been an exclusive person. Ever.

43:10Ben Mandelker: I only say Come one, come all Anyone can work in my house Give me your tired, your poor And I will give you a mop and a vacuum I include everyone on my staff

43:25Ronnie Karam: I'm not exclusive I only have three gates before you get to the main gate Before you have to go underground Then cross a river of fire and over a gullet full of snapping alligators to get into my home. Me, exclusive. Stop.

43:43Ben Mandelker: Very open person. Just me. Television's Heather Dubrow. One of the people. And I love how she is, I love whenever she talks about Jeff Lewis because she's always like, but then you went on that radio show and you put me in a bucket. Bucket as all of them. This episode is all about buckets and boxes, I'd like to point out, because she's like, you put me in a bucket, and later on it's like, I put her in a box. So it's really about what you can find in Home Depot and put people into.

44:12Ronnie Karam: And also being lighter. Everybody's lighter. They keep telling each other, oh my God, you're so much lighter. I'm so much lighter this year. Yeah, so she hates Jeff because Jeff was at a filming of this show years ago and then went on to say, like, Heather Dubrow's mean to waiters. And I won't stand for it because I was a waiter one time. and I will not stand for people being meant waiters. And ever since then it's been non-stop between those two crazy kids. So she's like, wow, so not only do you shit talk me, you shit talk me on that show. And Heather's like, Tamara's like, fine, do you want to be in the bucket?

44:51Ronnie Karam: Ah, and take me out of the bucket. She like throws a paintbrush across the room.

44:56Ben Mandelker: I want to be out of the bucket. I feel the band that I'm in the bucket. Can I sell the bucket? It's like, I'm in realtor now.

45:02Ronnie Karam: Okay, fine. You're out of the bucket, too. I'll turn it in the pig brush. Sorry, Rita. But you know what? You want to be a cauliflower or a broccoli or whatever? We can just stop talking about missing buckets and stop talking about what's on this stupid snack plan. Who wants to eat broccoli?

45:19Ben Mandelker: Let's not lump everyone together. That's what I'm trying to say. I am not an exclusive person. However, I do not want to be associated with other people who are poorer than me. Do you understand?

45:31Ronnie Karam: But Tamara, like I'm really sad that you felt bad at the reunion So like I'm really sorry Like I'm really sorry you felt bad And she goes, oh, you know what? Thank you, thank you so much That's all I wanted to hear Thank you, thank you, Gina You know how I always loved Gina? Because Gina's just such a good person at the core That's just a very good person Heavens go, but about Gina I always get Gina, which is a lot Me and Gina are just a lot

46:00Ben Mandelker: Congratulations, Gina you have been officially selected for team tamra this season your recruitment has already begun

46:07Ronnie Karam: and she'll be so easy too of course easy so gina asked what happened at this girl's trip because gina and emily of course were left out of the ultimate girl's trip filming lol you've only been housewives for 10 years i just get completely left out

46:25Ben Mandelker: it's so good and she's like what happened and heather's like it was bad this happened all everything happened at the quiet woman and so we see like the quiet woman and tamra's like so she says we were filming for the odds of a guest trip i'm nervous like i sit at dinner and all these conversations were going out at once and i will jump in and take it from here and Tamara was trying to stir the pot. And I had a question about my inability to, quote unquote, move on. I mean, what? I can't move on? Like suddenly she's acting like David, the way he would always be like, you can't move on. And I'm sitting there being the devoted wife of his children.

47:04Ben Mandelker: And he's out there talking to some slut on the beach. And now you're going to tell me that I can't move on from things in the past. I hardly believe it. Let me tell you about John Jansen.

47:12Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And then I got mad and I said, I don't know, something about that not being able to keep a man in her house.

47:19Ben Mandelker: And whoops. Whoops. And I lost it. And I said, no, you're the drunk. Ha!

47:27Ronnie Karam: Ha! Not very sweet of me, I guess. Hee hee hee. Well, I will tell you this. It was very embarrassing. And some of the wives were saying how horrified they were. They'd never seen anything like that. And Tamara just starts cracking up.

47:42Ben Mandelker: But enough about Wendy Malick's audition reels. Because please, all the housewives.

47:48Ronnie Karam: Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. That was so horrifying. We're real hot spots. We should really hold ourselves to higher standards.

47:55Ben Mandelker: I guarantee no one was horrified. They were all very happy. So Heather's like, there was a lot of talk and I just don't understand why we had to go there.

48:06Ronnie Karam: It's between me and Shannon. It's done. Shut up, stupid. It's over. I'm a new person now. You know what? I'm a new person since then.

48:14Ben Mandelker: But it kind of affects all of us.

48:17Ronnie Karam: Okay well you know why Shannon and I are a problem That's why she shouldn't be on the show anymore

48:23Ben Mandelker: You're like Bitch looking back I had regrets about what happened at the quiet woman Bitch and I was just up here With like the things that she had done to me And said about me And the video she put out about me

48:35Ronnie Karam: And then we see one of these incriminating Videos where Shannon is clearly Tipsy and she's like I don't hope it goes to me I feel like you I laugh with you I even want a trip While you You You Pack the book Called How to not be a miserable cow Ooh Ooh Ooh Ooh Ooh

49:00Ben Mandelker: Well I'm trying to get away from all that Cause I wanna be a big girl Like Shannon Ha So then Gina's like Well But like You have to like come to a point Where like you understand That you're probably Not gonna get the apology You're looking for And like move the fuck on And I'm gonna help you by probably undermining any attempts that you guys make to become friends again.

49:20Ronnie Karam: Well, you know me, Doug. You know my whole thing. I just want to make things good with people. Yeah. That's our whole thing. Am I making an excuse for calling her an alcoholic? No, who needs one? She's an alcoholic. That's just me being pissed off, guys. Sorry. Tara, I'll go back to pretending she's not an alcoholic if that makes everybody feel okay.

49:42Ben Mandelker: Tamara feels lighter, different, and she seems to be listening. I base that on really nothing. She just held that cauliflower in such a way that I was like, maybe I take her out of the bucket and put her in the box.

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52:45Ben Mandelker: Oh, back to Mexico. Viva Mexico. Ha, ha. I am a little concerned that my feet may have a parasite from all that rubbing on the sand. This head could get into your pores and then the amputation's next.

52:59Ronnie Karam: so Vicky and Shannon head over to Andalais and as they get out of the car Vicky's like uh do you do you have an extra padded bra on she's like oh my gosh are they too high oh now you're making me paranoid about my breasts oh thanks a lot

53:13Ben Mandelker: well I've been struggling with Mindy cause I had this new trainer and he put too much weight on it and like now then my right knee just like popped and so basically now she's now she's awful

53:25Ronnie Karam: Everywhere these two go together, they're just hobbling in, limping in. One's boobs are popping out of their double spanks or whatever. So they come in, and it's Andalese. And of course, Vicky knows everybody in Andalese. She even knows the donkey. Full literal donkey in Andalese. And the lady with the donkey is like, don't worry, he's not abused at all. Okay. Very happy donkey, everybody. Don't get upset, TV audience.

53:53Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it doesn't want to even be in a pasture right now. It's like, I want to be in a crowded bar with drunk people pouring beers on my head. This is the dream.

54:02Ronnie Karam: The donkey's like, can I get a chip refill? Am I right? So Vicky's like, oh, they love me at Andelis. People go there, they ask for me even when I'm not there. Yeah, I wanted to be part of the business, but they said, we're doing fine without you. Oh, really? Who do you think put you on the map?

54:19Ben Mandelker: They ask me whenever I'm not there. I'm like, here's what the question is. is that crazy fucking lady going to be here again tonight or can I drink in peace?

54:29Ronnie Karam: Is that lady and her husband who keep asking me to come home with them? I'm going to be here.

54:34Ben Mandelker: I just want to make sure. And then a man who was the composite of every man that Vicky has ever dated walks up and his name is Mike. And Sean's like, Oh, you guys are just, you guys are great together. The way you can stand next to each other and smile sort of in the same direction. That's just the chemistry is just amazing. And he's like, yeah, he can do his thing. I can do my thing. Like, we have a great relationship.

54:58Ronnie Karam: Well, let me tell you, Mike fills my emotional love tank. Woo-hoo. And she tells us that finally she's 64 and she's in a good place in her life. And Shannon's like, oh, you're going to love being back in Orange County. You'll enjoy Gina and Emily this time. I promise. And she's like, oh, and the kindness of Jen Pedranti. what a kind stupid person. You're just gonna love her.

55:25Ben Mandelker: She's just really dumb as rocks. It's just like you might as well just put her in a glass and add some vodka on top of her because it is just rocks. Here are rocks. So now, speaking of which, we see Jen and Emily going to dinner. And Jen telling us, I adore Emily. I would have never envisioned us being close but here we are.

55:45Ronnie Karam: And we see clips of Emily being like you're poor just admit you're poor nobody believes you've got a fucking rolex okay god you don't

55:55Ben Mandelker: even have a house this makes me so sad seeing jen getting sucked down into the emily and gina alliance so um emily orders a bowl of chicken because emily is is trimmed up this season and she's all about fitness and she says when i was dealing with everything going on with luke i I wasn't taking care of myself and I can't be a good mom if I'm not healthy. So basically what I said is I give up. I'm just going to go to the gym now.

56:29Ronnie Karam: Luke is still in question, but you can bounce a quarter off my ass. That's what's important. So they, they talk about kids and Emily says, Luke, they did do that brain scanning thing or whatever they were doing last year to help brain swelling but that didn't do anything um but they did transfer schools and the new school is helping him learn better and stuff and then they talk about how much easier it was when their kids were younger and they could just leave them with a nanny and jen's like tell me about it you know my son grayson um he got pulled over and guess how fast he was going 105 miles per hour it is crazy can you believe that emily can you believe it i can't believe someone who is

57:15Ben Mandelker: raised with ryan and painted denim would wind up going speeding down a highway in orange county so then jen is like it's just like so out of character for grayson i mean i thought when he got that 80s haircut like for sure he would be driving at a normal speed but i don't know made me wonder is there something else going on that's not who he is

57:36Ronnie Karam: um so emily's like yeah well when i need advice i call heather because heather's just the mother you know she's the mother of the group like she's really just great at giving love to everybody

57:47Ben Mandelker: right she's just great and this is the point where i'm contractually obligated to say some great stuff about heather before i destroy her for the rest of the season

57:58Ronnie Karam: have you talked to tamara i'm just still so mad at tamara and then we cut back to vicky and shannon And Vicky's like, come on, Tracy, because what are we going to get back? Come on. She's like, I don't know. Last I heard, she likes who she is and doesn't need therapy. Oh, oh, nope.

58:15Ben Mandelker: Why does she like sushi? No, I said she likes who she is. Well, I'm an empath. I'm an empath for people who like sushi. Yeah, Vicky. You're an empath.

58:25Ronnie Karam: I'm Vicky. Every narcissist on Bravo says this.

58:29Ben Mandelker: I'm an empath. I don't. Kristen, Vicky, many more. I'm an empath And like I see sides of both Like I famously I'm like such an empath That's why When I saw those people In the plane Flying away I said suck it losers But like When Tamara texts me And she's like I want to see you again Like I can't wait to hang out Like I'm My empath starts going off Because I'm super empath-y No really

58:50Ronnie Karam: But my question is Do you even believe her Because she's A kind of phony Nope I said it I said it What do you mean When did she start

58:58Ben Mandelker: Riding ponies

58:59Ronnie Karam: Come on Vicky

59:02Ben Mandelker: you can't make sushi out of ponies no i've never said that when tamra and i stopped talking it wasn't because of anything she did to me uh it was just like she was innately just a terrible person and we see like videos of them and like over the years we see vicky on a podcast on her

59:18Ronnie Karam: podcast saying uh tamra you gave birth to your daughter like you had words go apologize and move and so then uh we have to say i'm sorry this response the tamra post surgery oh my god so tamra makes it like an instagram video telling off vicky but it's when she had just gotten her not only her story she looks like king egg on from house of the dragon after he gets burned on his dragon she her face is just literally burned tamra does not give a fuck is what i'll because she literally is Freddy Krueger and she's like, you know what? I'm mad. I'm going to TikTok, bitch. Yeah, she sometimes it's okay to put down the phone.

59:59Ronnie Karam: You know what I mean? Like, recover.

1:00:02Ben Mandelker: Yeah, she definitely did look like that king. And then they batch. So Vicky's like, yeah, but then I had sepsis at the brain and I look at that differently. What I'm trying to say is, Tamra's a lot more tolerable after you've had brain damage. Yeah.

1:00:20Ronnie Karam: this show cracks me up it cuts from Tamara looking absolutely crisped like she's burned to a crisp fighting with someone on TikTok cutting to Vicky going yeah but I had sepsis in the brain so you know I'm different now I'm a different person now sepsis in the brain really really really changes you

1:00:40Ben Mandelker: I'm not going to get into weeds with this stuff what there's weeds how do they have weeds inside a bar see now you can't hear so then we go to Emily and Jen back to them and Emily's like by the way I saw Tamara Provocon and said hi and she was pissed at me and I'm like why are you pissed at me when the last time we saw you it was at the reunion and you should have my podcast like oh okay

1:01:01Ronnie Karam: Emily trying to out victim somebody Emily you literally you literally put her up for calling bloggers and did all those fakey fakey scenes to be on team Gretchen whatever so she dissed your podcast who cares

1:01:19Ben Mandelker: who cares who cares come on kelly dodd kelly dodd's like who cares um so jen is like well i was talking to heather about the tamra thing and i said i love the forward thing in our relationship but the hang up with me is like do you just like not have a boundary and we see you know this was this was a thing from last year and for a few years where we're always like why does heather Why is she always so nice to Tamara? Tamara's so mean to her. Why is she so nice to her? So I've felt this way for a long time. However, I feel like it's one thing if it's coming from us, but when it's like now Jen and Emily raising this topic, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, because you guys are hypocrites too.

1:02:03Ben Mandelker: We as the audience can raise this. Like, why do you have such a blind spot for this person who undermines you time and time again? But you guys are underminers too, and you guys have flip-flopped too, and don't think we didn't notice or remember Emily spending like an entire season or two teaming up with Tamara to take out Katie Janela initially you know so now Emily being like yeah she has a blind spot for Tamara I'm like do you not remember the the show that you've been on for the past few years yeah you're all gonna end up

1:02:33Ronnie Karam: kissing Tamara's butt whatever so um Jen's like yeah you know that thing with Heather that really bothers me, you know, but I asked her and she said her friendship with Tamara is genuine. And we cut to a scene of Heather going, my friendship with Tamara is absolutely genuine. Hate the bitch. Okay. And Emily's like, do you believe that though? I don't know. I don't know. I really don't. Because, you know, last year after the reunion, we went to dinner. Oh my God. Thank you so much, restaurants. I really, really enjoyed that dinner. and you know we were talking about tamara and heather was really leading the charge on tamara being a terrible person so i'm not really sure what's going on now because then the very next day she called tamara to check on her it's called shit talking oh my god i should talk people i love all the time but yeah unallowed she's this nicer than being like you're an asshole

1:03:27Ben Mandelker: to their face you're supposed to say it behind their back yeah exactly heather like to me i get it. I do like when Heather stands up to Tamara. It is frustrating when Tamara does things that actively undermine Heather and Heather just rolls with it. But that being said, they do go back a long time. And I think her vibe is kind of like, look, Tamara can be real garbage, but I love my garbage. But I also have to vent. I have to vent about her. Otherwise, I'm never going to be able to deal with her. So she's like, I put her in a box. She's just different. She's Tamara. She's

1:04:02Ronnie Karam: figure out ways to cope with it you know well and heather also looks at it it's like work friends you know she's like well you gotta work with somebody so you know i'm always gonna be nice the next day even if i'm mad because remember when heather came back to the show and a big complaint from the people still on the show were like you just dumped me the second that you weren't on the show anymore she's like right well i didn't really consider that dumping you it's just you know i was limiting my calls to a certain price bracket

1:04:34Ben Mandelker: i was speaking to my friends who have the winery um uh yeah i think uh like it's just uh i forgot i was gonna say but yeah they're all the thing is this they're all two-faced if you think that any of these people do not talk shit about anyone else it's wild they all talk shit about tamra Tamara terrorizes all of them and then they're nice to her. So I don't know. I just think it's like, I think that they are, if you, if you told me that after that reunion, Heather was the only person talking shit about Tamara, I would say you are full of poppycock because they all were clearly talking about Tamara at that reunion, at that dinner.

1:05:16Ben Mandelker: Like, how could you not be talking about Tamara? Tamara was, you know, Tamara's Tamara. And so they're all there. They're like, can you believe this? Can you believe that? Can you believe this? and now they're going to be like, well, Heather was the one who led the charge on it. I just don't believe. I believe Heather participated as much as everyone else did, but they're just going to basically hang Heather out to dry. They're probably worried that it's going to get out, that they talk shit. They all know that someone's going to narc. It's probably going to be Gina. They all know news is going to get out like so-and-so was saying this about you, so-and-so was saying this about you.

1:05:43Ben Mandelker: They're like, you know what, let's put it all on Heather. So that way she's the one who deals with Tamara's wrath.

1:05:49Ronnie Karam: Well, also, if you remember at the end of last season, And everybody was anti-Tamra. I mean, it was like a really go-getter thing. And then Tamra was teamed up with Katie Janela, you know, because she realized the whole cast was against her. So she teamed up with Katie Janela. But then she lost that one because Katie was fired. And then, you know, now she's left on her own. So they're like, okay, we finally got rid of Tamra. But she's back. So why the fuck are you still filming with Tamra? It's like we all ganged up to get rid of Tamra. Now you're still keeping Tamara in the circle, I think. And, you know, guys, she doesn't hire and fire.

1:06:27Ronnie Karam: It's like she's hired on the show. Deal with it. No one wants to watch Jen mope around with her 11 dogs and troubled children for the whole season. And Emily talking about protein. And Gina trying to find any piece of round that doesn't fit her properly. Like, we need more, okay? You need Tamara, so just get over it. Yeah.

1:06:49Ben Mandelker: So then, yeah, so Jen's talking about how Heather was leading the charge. And she goes, you know, at some point, Heather just needs to say, enough. Am I the only one that feels that way? So now we go back to Tamara. And she's with Sophia and Eddie. And they're doing stuff around the kitchen and everything. And Tamara's asking if Sophia uses an iron. And she's like, from a hair? She's like, no, for your plans, bitch. I just spat so much all over my entire computer doing that.

1:07:18Ronnie Karam: so we find out that Sophia decided not to go to music school because she doesn't want to go to LA so she's going to go to school locally and Tamara's going to get in her apartment and uh then we go to Emily's uh where we see Annabelle still being a terrorist she's like Annabelle do your laundry she's like you need your laundry saying Annabelle let's do a load

1:07:39Ben Mandelker: you do a load yeah good luck good luck with that so then uh we go to jen and we see the kids that are there and jen's like grayson we got a ticket in the mail were you here when uh dawson was was here laughing about it and grayson's like how many times has he been pulled over am i right and so um we see that dawson's still in the marines hasn't fainted recently and harrison graduated with an engineering degree and I don't know, Evie is growing up. The kids are alright.

1:08:16Ronnie Karam: Except for one of them is speeding. Except for the one who's speeding. Oh my god, when she goes Evie's becoming a woman and then she says I mean we've had fights on how to put a tampon in ten times.

1:08:28Ben Mandelker: Not the ear, Evie. Not the ear. What an odd fight. And then she's like, oh and Tommy's

1:08:35Ronnie Karam: Please not use the kitchen tongs. Evie. And as, of course, as a man, I'm like, what is a tampon fight about? You know, I'm just imagining all kinds of things. So she's like, do you know how much that ticket was, young man? He's like, oh, well, 500. It's like 700. There's not enough in and out in the world for you to sell to make up for that ticket. And Ryan's just smiling with his, you know, crazy spray tan. He's like, yeah, it's my boy. Speedy.

1:09:02Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And now we have Wacky Shannon walking down the street with her two dogs and there's like a sign up on the sidewalk that says Mahjong or Is My Valentine or something like that. Mahjong is my Valentine. Yeah, so she's like, oh, this will be a great photo opportunity. So she like gets her two golden retrievers to sort of pose in front of it, but they she's having trouble and she's like just trying to get them to sit. So Rocky Shannon like,

1:09:34Ronnie Karam: whoa, sit down, whoa, now you sit. Where are you running to? My dog is my dog. Being pulled down the street and then we see that there's a sign that says, please keep dogs off the grass as she keeps trying to put the dogs on the grass. Maybe we need more dogs.

1:09:49Ben Mandelker: Can we get some more dogs here to help with the photo? Thank you.

1:09:52Ronnie Karam: So she talks to Stella a little bit who's still in Paris and talks about how she's so proud of her kids. But you know, I am kind of lonely, but living in Corona Del Mar is what makes me happy. Now watch me place my dogs in front of this sign. God, they won't sit. Okay, I'm going to go get my dog's dog ice cream. Some dog ice cream. Oh God, it fell on the sidewalk. Please don't eat off the sidewalk. You're going to get parasites. Oh, he's eating off the sidewalk.

1:10:18Ben Mandelker: Was that what that was? I was so confused. It looked like Shannon was getting whipped cream in a cone. And I was like, was this for the dog or is this like Shannon's locale dessert?

1:10:27Ronnie Karam: I think it was like an ice cream place where they give you the doggy cone and they're like oh you know here's a little whipped cream you know how you can get that at Starbucks

1:10:36Ben Mandelker: oh yeah I was like not so I just couldn't tell if this was like something if this is like a pet oriented thing or like Shannon was like can I get some whipped cream on a cone please thank you very much which then doesn't matter because she drops it on the sidewalk anyway because Troy is like a nightmare Yeah.

1:10:55Ronnie Karam: So then we go to Vicky, who's still in Mexico, and here's Brother Billy. He's like, hey, what are you, drinking milk out of the cart, Billy? That is disgusting. He's like, it's my milk. I'm drinking it out of the cart. I don't want to watch it. Oh, God, you brought your milk from Florida. Jeez. Did he really bring his milk from Florida? Oh, jeez. Billy's not trusting Mexican milk. He's like, I'm not trusting. I'm going to bring mine in my suitcase. By the way, Billy, I saw you at a massage parlor last night. You cannot prove a thing I saw your location, it was a massage parlor And it was 1.30 in the morning Those are dirty massages, Billy He's like

1:11:33Ben Mandelker: Family's important to me And it's important for me to tell all of America When they're getting handies at a massage parlor You know, nuclear family, that is And so she's like, you need a woman in your life

1:11:42Ronnie Karam: It seemed weird Because she goes, family's everything to me Nuclear family

1:11:50Ben Mandelker: You need a woman in your life I'm like, Vicky I'm starting to think that that's not really in the cards Billy leads a bachelor lifestyle it's almost confirmed and I worry that Michael is going to do more of the same like never marry like never have kids and like because Billy's happy and he's doing good but I'm like oh god and we see by the way a picture of Michael says Michael 40 I was like like what Michael is 40 I don't know I don't know what life is anymore how is Michael 40

1:12:22Ronnie Karam: it was cracking me up that she says oh god Billy just needs to find a woman where is he going to find a woman okay anybody looking for a guy getting jerked off in Mexican massage parlors who's drinking milk that he brought in his backpack from Florida no just get ready to pay for Billy's vacation for the rest of your life

1:12:45Ben Mandelker: hey everyone this is the end of part one of this recap for part two Keep an eye on your podcast feed. It is coming up in just a moment. Thanks so much for listening. Catch you on the second half.

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