#3455 McBee Dynasty S03E05: The Tallow-Tale Heart

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1:56Ben Mandelker: hello and welcome to watch our crap ins a podcast about all the crap on bravo that we just love truly truly love to talk about i'm ben mandelker and joining me today is the one the only the lovely the warm the sweet ronnie caram hi ronnie how's it going little sweet tart oh thanks you

2:18Ronnie Karam: say it's storming over there in Texas? It is storming like crazy. Yeah, it's pounding down out here. It's flash flood warnings. And I had to go run errands in that rain. And actually, you know, it wasn't so bad.

2:33Ronnie Karam: I didn't mind getting wet. It felt kind of good. That was a twist. I know. I was outside. It was pouring on my head. I couldn't find parking. I was like, why are people still out? Because, man, Texas is a little storm and people still live their lives, you know i had to go out there and i was like why do people do this but then i smelled it and i felt it and i just felt so alive but i'm not out of the house much i was like yes i'm wet everybody

2:57Ben Mandelker: where's my award i came out in the rain you're like yes it wasn't so bad out there although i was surprised they uh they demolished that starbucks it's like it wasn't demolished it was swept away in the rain but it's pretty cool out here yeah um it is one of those things where you

3:12Ronnie Karam: worry about because that is a that is a real worry i mean i'm not i'm not really worried about it because i don't worry about anything um until it happens that kind of guy but it could happen

3:23Ben Mandelker: you know what i worry about i worry about people not going to our patreon patreon.com slash watch for crap ins where you can get access to bonus episodes live in this week we talked about big brother and love island and other tv shows and what we did on our break um you can also get access to ad free listening a newsletter that's wonderful a discord community that's wonderful you just get so much you get so much on patreon um but i also worry that um that tallow may not be enough to save the mcbee family farm and that is the concern for today's episode previously on the mcb's um cole and uh casey and the not sunshine band got married got engaged and um ali and the other guy who what's his face mcb jesse uh they it turns out their relationships in the shitter and um uh and that's that's you know the and the that man is a real

4:25Ronnie Karam: over there that man is a real asshole too we talked about this episode a bit on crappy hour this week um and i'm gonna have to repeat this part for people who don't listen to that last week jesse and ali go to dinner because they're trying to like rekindle or whatever and you know he picks this restaurant they go to some fancy restaurant and she's like whoa i mean are we gonna share because i mean it's pretty expensive and he goes you've been working a lot with his mean glint in his eye and his little smile that never goes away and um then the waiter comes over and he orders the filet experience i lost my shit at the tv i really like jesse i really liked him i and now to see him with that mean glint and that stupid smile still on his face i'm like oh how did i fall for that like just one little glint of the eye and then like wanting to go order the most expensive thing and then make your wife pay for what what an asshole i can't believe that's what pushed me over i was just so surprised to see it from jesse were you or is it just me

5:29Ben Mandelker: you watch the show right you've seen these guys and their father like i mean i'm just like okay i can't believe uh this hot this hot cowboy guy who's now starting to lose his looks a little bit is now um not being so nice when everyone else in his family is an asshole like i'm like okay You got married in an octagon Congratulations

5:49Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but I mean, I just didn't think it was Evil, I thought he was like the nice one And the cute sweet one And he's like an ass I got so pissed I'm sorry And also he's famous now So, you know, that's not helping When you get all those DMs And it's like, oh, why am I staying here? I have all these options Fuck off, this woman just had your kid

6:13Ben Mandelker: I am I'm looking for the filet experience personally i'm that's where my mind is like what is this filet experience and i've been doing some googling while you've been talking and there's a restaurant called stock hill i think that's where they went and now let's see what the filet experience really is okay let's go to the dinner menu and i'm on their menu where's the they've got the wagyu experience oh that's even worse that's what it was the wagyu experience you got the wagyu experience yes it's a hundred seventy dollars and maybe there was a flame experience that's the only experience I'm seeing

6:48Ronnie Karam: I think it was the Wagyu experience I didn't want to upgrade it

6:53Ben Mandelker: yeah I hate to tell you this but I think it was the Wagyu experience it's part of the menu that says the world of Wagyu there's the American Wagyu, the Australian and the Japanese

7:05Ronnie Karam: it wasn't even the kind of meat she just said I'm worried about money and then he's like you're making plenty of money and then orders the most, you know, anything called experience is going to be the most expensive thing on the menu, you know? The experience, which means they're going to be giving you expensive shit and, you know, I don't know, like lighting candles, flares or whatever, and being like, whoa, it's the experience.

7:33Ben Mandelker: I want to know, but you know what, Ronnie, the Wagyu experience is designed for two people.

7:39Ronnie Karam: She didn't order that, though. so you see what i mean he's or he's getting whatever she just said she wanted to save money and you order the most expensive thing on the minute is it the most expensive thing on the menu it sounds like it you tell me you've got it open still it was definitely i i closed it i can

7:56Ben Mandelker: i can access it again i can i can reopen the tab i i'm gonna look right now because now this is inherently more interesting okay so this is uh the wagyu experience is 170 no you could also spend 170 on the creek stone tomahawk and two sides okay so um by the way ties the the wagyu experience it comes served tokyo style um it's slow crisps garlic wagyu tallow so i think we know

8:26Ronnie Karam: why they ordered it now pushing the tallow agenda steve mcbee demands 20 of the wagyu experience for his fucking girlfriend in five minutes.

8:34Ben Mandelker: This thing's turning into a monster.

8:39Ronnie Karam: So one other thing I want to tell you that you'll probably like more than the show. Did you see Steve McBee Jr.'s or Steve Jr. McBee, whatever? Did you see his list of the perfect woman that was published? Oh my gosh. Describe your dream girl's physical traits and details. between 5 '6 and 5 '8, blonde-haired and light eyes, blue or green, with a passion for working out so her body is toned and athletic. Well, number one, you know, short, exactly what he's going to get every time. Short, blonde, blue or green eyes, passion for working out. I want her to be athletic and to come from an athletic family where hard work and physical fitness and strength is the standard.

9:27Ronnie Karam: I want her to be a healthy eater where we focus on fitness and a healthy lifestyle, but occasionally have a cheat meal or a night out, but only to reward ourselves for an accomplishment.

9:37Ben Mandelker: That's too, that's, that's so specific that it's like, I feel like he stopped answering the survey and started spiraling into like something else. He's like, and then when we watch TV together, when I asked for the remote, she just gave me the remote kindly, just throw it at me. Cause when she throws at me, it hurts, hurts more than you think. Yeah, I'm a cowboy, but I also have sensitive skin. Cause I take care of my skin. She better take care of her skin too. Know they're the remote at me just because I want to work on something. So what? So what that I like Matlock? So what if I like Kathy Bates?

10:04Ben Mandelker: Okay, she's good. I believe her as an attorney. I'd have her represent this family if I could, but I can't. Okay, and I do understand the difference between reality and a TV fictional character. But what if I want a fictional character to represent me? What's wrong with that? Why are you yelling at me?

10:15Ronnie Karam: It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know what? Matlock would be better if Kathy Bates were hotter and if she were between 5 '6 and 5 '8 and blonder with green hair or blue eyes and worked out. I need Kathy Bates to work out more. So then, this is long. I won't go through the whole thing, but he's Cuckoo Bird. So what do you want her personality to be like? I want her to want to be the leader of women and focus on improving the lives of those she's around. In my eyes, a woman that isn't afraid to take charge and be a leader. That's such a character trait I love. I want a girl that comes off as elegant and classy and people respect for her intellect and the way that she carries herself in conversation.

10:57Ronnie Karam: as or more than how she looks while being out at events. Bullet point traits. So then he has bullet points. Hardworking, intelligent, positive, competent, willing to learn, leader, confident, fun and wild on occasion. Kathy Bates, but hotter.

11:16Ben Mandelker: Then he has my daily schedule. What'd you say? I'm sure he'll find her. It sounds all very reasonable and accessible.

11:24Ronnie Karam: Yes. Perfection My daily schedule would look like 4am to 6am Wake up, read and journal Morning routine Journal? Stephen McBee's journaling? Come on

11:36Ben Mandelker: Last night, Matlock was a good episode I liked it a lot And it made me realize that she would be real good Representing farms

11:45Ronnie Karam: State farm? Heck no! City farm It begins on a city level Must be hot Is there a city called hot? Is Mary Lou Henner single? Because she doesn't forget anything. I need a woman who doesn't forget things. I want Mary Lou Henner, but younger and blonder and hotter and bluer eyes. And I want... So this is good. Wakes up at four. He wants to wake up between four and six a.m. Wake up, read and journal. Then six a.m. Wife wakes up. Oh, okay.

12:15Ben Mandelker: Oh, okay.

12:17Ronnie Karam: Me two hours without hot person at my side while a journal. Okay.

12:22Ben Mandelker: Hey, hey, hot five, six, blonde lady, tell me later in time. I'm done journaling. Wake up.

12:30Ronnie Karam: Wife wakes up. We have a coffee and dig into our most important deep work of the day. 8 a.m. Kids wake up. We ate breakfast. And wife takes them to school. Your kids aren't getting up at 8 a.m.? What kind of precious life is that? What time does school start? And knowing how you guys talk, I mean, you don't even go to school. Jesse still says things like, wow, this is the best thing to ever happen in our lives.

12:55Ben Mandelker: I mean. Please don't act like you're not going to be homeschooling your child with Todd the pig.

13:01Ronnie Karam: Oh, and essential oils, you know, going on every time they're sick. Yeah. Todd the pig. Please.

13:09Ben Mandelker: That's the classroom right there. It's going to be Blair, Todd the pig, and this fantasy child.

13:15Ronnie Karam: Write something down. I told you to write it down. But, Dad, this is a hoe.

13:23journaling okay 8 a.m go ahead no i'm just saying i'm journaling i'm journaling about journaling

13:30Ben Mandelker: did you know okay dear diary journal here's what i've learned today on the year of our lord 2026 july 15th today is the birthday of linda ronsat happy birthday bitch i don't know who you are but you're not a matlock's i don't care i was gonna say i don't think he's a big

13:53Ronnie Karam: okay so um my and then my wife takes him to school in parentheses private school of our choosing while i can oh oh oh oh oh private school you're choosing what does the wag you experience all over again who chooses their own private school while i continue deep work and or take calls i love his deep work. We see you week after week doing nothing.

14:18Ben Mandelker: Wait, can we go back to private school of our choosing? Here, I want to send my child, I don't want to be like one of those people who sends their child to a private school not of their choosing. It's like, sir, your child goes on the bus and we unfortunately can't tell you which school they're going to go to. So good luck.

14:34Ronnie Karam: And how many are there? You live in a town of like 30 people. Like how many private schools are there to choose from? You know? I mean, I don't know. Maybe there are a lot, but I don't know. What's the name of their town? I forgot. Stupidville? I forget. I forget. Blonde Short Town. Blonde Short City, who's hot and works out a lot.

14:54Ben Mandelker: Dear Diary, today I found out something interesting about the day July 15th. Not only is it this person Linda Ronsat's birthday, but it's also the same birthday as Jesse Ventura. Wow, I bet they'd have a great date together. Okay, see you next time, Diary.

15:07Ronnie Karam: 9 a.m. noon. 9 a.m. to noon, wife and I work together on our companies, focusing on growing our memberships, filming videos, planning events, et cetera. Oh, great.

15:22Ben Mandelker: Memberships. Just working on their memberships. Dear diary, you know what else I found out today about today, July 15th? It's also the birthday of Ariana Huffington and Brigitte Nielsen. Wow, I sure would love to have a threesome with all them.

15:36Ronnie Karam: If they were just blonder. So noon to 1 p.m., lunch with my wife and do a quick walk somewhere. 1 to 3 p.m., gym and train with my wife who loves to work using strength training. Oh, my God. This is the perfect day. Every second of the day you've got planned out for your fucking wife. And it's like, take care of my kids. Make some money. Be hot. Be hotter. Work out some more. What is wrong with this person? It's not realistic.

16:06Ben Mandelker: It's also, it's like, my ideal woman, from 337 to 340, that is when she is in the bathroom, doing number one only. But then, of course, she has to take care of herself.

16:17Ronnie Karam: And then afterwards... I will have a wife who makes number two. That is unladylike, and I will not have it. And if she does have poop, it better be hot poop. I'll tell you that right now. Three to six...

16:29Ben Mandelker: Furthermore, from 3 to 6 p.m., one thing we will not be doing is celebrating the July 15th birthday of Yahya Abdul-Mateen 2 because he's way higher than I am and that's not allowed.

16:42Ronnie Karam: 3 p.m. to 6.30 p.m. Finish any additional work for the day. Prepare for the kids to come home. You better prepare earlier. I think they're only going to be in school for 15 minutes. I think we're learning from this list. 6.30 p.m. to 8 p.m. Dinner and play with the kids.

16:58Ben Mandelker: see them off to bed this is his perfect day or is it like a standard day i forget this is like his

17:05Ronnie Karam: i they asked his ideal woman and so he's like listing all the things my daily schedule i guess so it's yes is ideal ideal daily schedule yeah so uh is farm work on here or no no work he mentions working very deeply you know he wants to work deeply but um it just says memberships so i mean i don't know memberships he's gonna i've read actually he's like working at like la fitness or something i read that he was gonna start like a man a men's retreat somewhere of course which is a huge shocker that that uh someone like him would do that but yeah he's gonna have like a McBee Ranch Men's Retreat. That's right, where we're going to work on memberships and not farming

17:57Ben Mandelker: and thinking about what we're going to be doing for about three or four minutes in every single day.

18:02Ronnie Karam: Memberships is spelled with an N right before the M in memberships. Men-berships. Men-berships. Because I'll tell you who's not allowed there. Girls. Stinky, stinky girls.

18:16Ben Mandelker: Yeah, sounds like he's got it all figured out. Oh, there's more.

18:18Ronnie Karam: It's only 8 p.m. The kids have just gone to bed. Now it's 8 p.m. to 9 p.m. Nightly journaling? You do not journal in the morning and at the night, sir. No. Stop. Just stop, Fartist way. Nightly journaling? Preparing the plan of the day for tomorrow? And meeting with my wife to go over our reading materials? What do you mean meeting with your wife? Has your wife had one fucking second away from you? She's been with you since you let her wake up two hours after you did this morning.

18:47Ben Mandelker: that they're going to go over their reading materials. Wait, did he have, I don't, this is this, I feel like if someone said, well, it'd be a great, like a good day with my wife, like the perfect woman, it'd be like, I go to work, she goes to work, she does whatever she's going to be doing. I do my thing. We work out together. We have a to sleep. This is so rigorous and so unfun.

19:17Ronnie Karam: I'm a loving person who will help me make a great home. The end. Like she has to be hot. She has to do this. She has to do that. She has to, he's such a controlling asshole. And then at 9 PM, go to bed. That's it. Are you going to bed or are you just making her go to bed and then you'll go to bed an hour after? That's the only thing that surprised me in this. What a douche.

19:39Ben Mandelker: It's terrible. Did you know that 20 years ago today twitter launched by the way as long as i'm looking at what happened on today today yeah

19:47Ronnie Karam: they've been they've been doing great for us yeah you're really into that list sorry that was long

19:52Ben Mandelker: but i've been sitting also remember like two weeks who's that's that is honestly like crazy that is crazy this is also someone who i think i don't i i don't know something is off something's not right here something's not

20:10Ronnie Karam: with stephen mcbade yeah he's a controlling psycho which we know and we've seen you know the texts and stuff that he was sending to ally um when he i don't know with somebody at the festival and he's calling her a slut and a whore and this i mean just these guys like that's the thing like i saw that coming from him you know i did not see this coming from jesse and i really thought he was cute wait this was jesse no that was steven oh i'm just saying like i saw that personality in him but i'm just upset by the last episode because now we see that jesse's just another another cut

20:45Ben Mandelker: from this cloth it's just yeah well steven i feel like the next step is gonna be steven's gonna have a tracker on a car and then after that he'll wind up on the traders and other steps that may happen in between those two we'll see what happens but in the meantime let's get back to this show okay

21:00Ronnie Karam: Well, here's my prediction for everyone in this family. They're going to kill a lot of ozone. That's it. Just going to get very big cars and trucks and just do as much damage to the ozone. That's my only solid prediction. Possibly jail for a couple of them. Okay, let's get on with it. It's season three, episode five, business beef.

21:23Ben Mandelker: Business beef. Okay, so the episode where we learn more about tallow. So we start We're at Cole and Casey's home And Stephen is bringing in a pig A pig named Todd Todd's on Bravo And this pig comes into this house And Stephen tells us Casey has talked forever about how she wanted to get a pot-bellied pig And so I thought, what better way to surprise her As an engagement present Because I want to name the pig from Charlotte's Web I want to name it, what's it called? What do you want to name it? Wilbur? Wilbur. Yeah. Wow, real original there, Stephen McBee.

22:04Ronnie Karam: Also, I don't think it ended well. I mean, I love Charlotte's Web, but nothing starring a pig really ends that well. Like in literature. Never does. You know? So, yeah, he wants to get her a pig for her wedding engagement. She just got engaged to one. What do you buy? She's agreed to come into a family of them. so i think she's good on todd and she the pig comes in and they just let the pig into the house it starts by the way i love a pig you know we love it but they let the pig come into the house it's snorting all over the place and they're like what the fuck is this big and she she sees the pig and she's like get this pig the fuck out of my house she didn't want a pig the pig actually

22:47Ben Mandelker: takes a dump under the dining room table and it's the first time in the history of i think mankind that like pig shit actually improved the house so good for them made the florist keeter so then i don't go over house that first of all they have that giant kitchen island that t-shaped kitchen island in their kitchen but it's too big for the kitchen have you noticed like how there's no space on the edges of the t for them to get around they're always like just slinking around the sides their their kitchen island i was like you got all this space and you still put an island that's not the right size.

23:19Ronnie Karam: I think it's people who don't hire architects. They just do everything, sales, you know, which, you know, I appreciate some do your own-ism, but sometimes you need to hire people who might be smarter than you or understand. I mean, it looks like a Sam's Club to me, like the floors and stuff. I mean, it's big, and I think it's kind of pretty in its way, But yeah, like you need to fit your island in there.

23:48Ben Mandelker: The island does not fit. It's also a T-shaped island. It's all wrong. And like the T-shape is so narrow. Ugh, a disaster. Like really rooting for a tornado.

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26:23Ben Mandelker: so now we go to steve steve jr and ali are in the kitchen and and steve is you know he's showing them the the the pig i think you were trying to move on to someone to another scene yeah we're

26:35Ronnie Karam: going we're going to we don't need any more of that scene so now we're going to steve jr's house and um they're hanging out with the with the dog and stuff and um it's ali ali and masha are going to have a scene because they are going to really force Masha on everybody. Why? I don't know. Masha is, you know, she's a personality of a potato. And I love a potato, but I don't want to like watch it on TV. You know? She's just like, duh. But I am here for Steve. I would like to eventually marry Steve. Steve loves me. Masha. Jesus Christ. Perk up.

27:15Ben Mandelker: somebody light something under masha yeah seriously so ali's saying that she hasn't seen masha since uh the halloween party and she goes which was obviously a very unique scenario um and we see three weeks ago galena being like it's my party you're not invited you're so

27:30Ronnie Karam: fucking stupid whore and uh masha's like i just feel separated from family but ali is nice and ali is very tv ready like she's been ready to come on tv she's like hi masha i haven't seen masha and h's masha how are you feeling right now and she's kind of like looking off every have you noticed that whenever she's talking to someone she's just kind of nodding but zoning out like not listening to a alias yes she's just like uh but they put her in every scene and she's ready to go for every single thing they give her but she's like masha i think we should talk about your relationship in this family masha's like well i'm separated from family it would be nice to get closer because like Steve is going to go to jail.

28:16Ronnie Karam: I want to make sexy calendar for Steve. It's like, oh my God, I'm going to shoot a sexy calendar for Masha.

28:26Ronnie Karam: It's going to be great.

28:28Ben Mandelker: Masha is like, I'm from Belarus. I don't know what that is. It's a country. I don't understand. There's only America.

28:39Ronnie Karam: There are no other countries. haven't you noticed that every house in the neighborhood has an american flag because the

28:45Ben Mandelker: world is america the world is america so um masha is basically saying yeah she's like no one wants to be friends with her so she wants to do something special you know um she wants to do something special for steve senior and so ali's like please define something special flowers like an oatmeal cream pie what do you want it's like no you can't send food to jail you can't send nothing no only letters okay so is it gonna be a b a g an s a t no not actual letters like good because i ran out of letters the only letters i know are u s and a she's like no but you can send photos

29:33Ronnie Karam: to prison and also letters and photos as well. She's like, oh my God, photos, you want to do some sexy photos? Let's do a calendar. She's like, yes, for each month.

29:44Ben Mandelker: Imagine like a photo for two of the months and the rest is just, you know, empty space. Yeah. So here's the way it goes. Each month there's a photo.

29:54Ronnie Karam: Masha, you know that in prison, everybody is going to be jerking off at you. he's not going to be the only person that sees the calendar on the wall he's going to have roommates guards don't do this in a prison you know what i mean don't be circulating nudie pictures of yourself in a prison full of men so ali is like she's like oh my god a boudoir photo

30:20Ben Mandelker: shoot for my potential future father-in-law i was like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa let's It's a little early. You're putting the combine before the horse here. Okay, ma 'am, let's just relax on that front. As far as I can tell, you are not at your strength training right now. So until you start getting with the schedule, there will be no father-in-law.

30:41Ronnie Karam: Until you start waking up two hours later than me and being a good mother to children and then doing exactly what I say for every second of the day. We are not. But, you know, he's been the one who's like, you're moving in, right? We're going to get married, right? Like, you're here, right? So I was kind of surprised that it was her this time being like that. Yeah.

31:03Ben Mandelker: Well, she's eager. So now we go to the McBee meat processing facility, which is sort of what I feel like this show is about, just processing the stupid things that these meatheads are saying. And Galena shows up. And Tess is there. Tess has been sent up to the meat processing facility. She no longer is with a dribble door. And she's like, are you lost little girl? I got you. Oh my God. I thought you were in the wrong neck of the woods. Thanks for visiting me, little old Tessa up here in the make-roars same facility. Wow.

31:34Ronnie Karam: What a natural scene. Just me hanging out up here at this gosh darn meat packing facility. And who walks in Galena, that sweet little girl from down yonder. Sometimes I think she's faking it, this lady, you know? And Tessa, I think is, Tessa and Galena are my favorites on the show. But I think my meemaw, Ramona, she never had an accent until she got older. And then suddenly she was like, well, let me tell you down in tarnation. It's like my mom was always like, my mom has never had an accent. Like, what the hell? Where did she suddenly get an accent? She started wearing like little crochets, you know, sweaters that would say like, God bless home and started walking around with an accent.

32:19Ronnie Karam: And my I think my grandpa always had one. And she really kept it up her whole life and the rest of her life. But sometimes I think that Tessa is like that. Like she's just decided, now I'm this country. Her real voice is like, oh, my God.

32:37Ben Mandelker: Oh, my God. I can't believe I got to go to the forum today. This is absolutely ridiculous. Okay, I guess I'll do it. The movie from the dribble door to the meat processing is, oh, wait, hold on. Someone's coming in. Oh, my God. I can't believe I'm in the meat processing. Yeah.

32:50Ronnie Karam: Or like the cameras go down and she's like, get me a fucking cup of coffee or a little con.

32:55Ben Mandelker: You know, like the baby from Roger Rabbit. Yeah. So she's up there and probably spending her time making little print shop 8x10 posters with like old Western font like she did last season. And remember, it was like the baby shower thing. It was like, it was like, baby on board. but like the y was like five spaces away from like the rest of bab or something i don't know yeah

33:24Ronnie Karam: or they're like tessa make some flyers for the the meat company you know and then she's making like a little cartoon cow that's got a big smile on his face like it just can't wait to be slaughtered it's just like iggy or izzy whatever that cartoon i feel like uh i feel like tess is one of those

33:42Ben Mandelker: people who she's all sweet and nice but when she texts and emails she only writes in all caps and you're like why yeah doing this all you have to do is press caps lock and fix it and lots of exclamation points and emojis yeah so um she's stuck up there and they're making them do a scene and um so they hug and tessa's like well we've been selling off some things and restructuring and that's what you gotta do with the business. Especially the boss, he called me and he said, I'm journaling, and then afterwards he said, okay, I'm done, and I need you to come here. I want you to whip everything into shape up here at McPhee Make Company, and I want you to be the office manager and work on membership.

34:23Ben Mandelker: Membership, membership, membership, journaling. You know, all those things. I love those boards.

34:28Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I miss being the fuel gal. I really do miss filling up 1721 implements a day, but you know, I take it all in stride. That's just what you do when you're tasked with. there ain't nothing i wouldn't do for boss man them boys god i i love that for her she's just like all i want to do all day is just put fuel into tanks it's just like that's all i want i

34:52Ben Mandelker: just want to put a nozzle in this filling tank up with gas in there that's all i want but it's okay

34:58Ronnie Karam: i'll be up here in this meat facility and kalina's like whoa ha ha holy smokes you doing so great Whoa, what a fun loving scene we are having together. Just couple of girls.

35:12Ben Mandelker: Hey, Isle, pretty good. And then the real life of the party shows up. It's Casey, America's sweetheart. Hi, I'm here. The tallow skin line is something Stephen and I thought of a couple of months ago. And tallow is an amazing product for your skin. The fun part about tallow is if you take off the T, it's a verb that Stephen McBee doesn't allow. wait a minute to do hey i just said it so the anyway there's so much kidney fat here that if you render it it becomes tallow so tallow i guess i knew what tallow was and i've used you

35:51Ronnie Karam: know i've used it i saw it on uh the internets and i was like tallow because it's like a big craze lately so i started using tallow and i am a pescatarian and so you know part i was like well I'm not supposed to be using that. That's not great. You know, not like I'm on some high moral ground or whatever, but I was like, you know, like cows are cute. Maybe I shouldn't use that, but whatever. It's there. It's, it's things that have already been killed anyway. Well, so is meat, you dumbass. You know what I mean? So I was using it. And then really, I'm just so grossed out when I saw this episode, who would watch this and want to put that on there.

36:29Ronnie Karam: there's like body parts everywhere and she's like yeah and then I put my own smells into it and I was like this is officially nasty to me now I don't know why it took a visual but it did

36:41Ben Mandelker: if you're watching this show voluntarily tallow is the least of your concerns that's what I've got to say like if you're watching this and it's like my question is not like are you watching this and then you're still okay with the tallow my question is are you watching this and you're entertained by it yeah There's some issues. I mean, I do go to entertainment.

37:02Ronnie Karam: Sorry. I shouldn't be yucking on your yum. I mean, I wouldn't call it a yum. I only watched it because it was coming on Bravo after being on Peacock, and I just literally had nothing to do one day. And so I put it on and was cracking up because we're recapping it. But it's so trashy. I do get into it. But Casey's like, well, you know, like a few times what I do is I render I render the kidney shit for a few times and then I add my ingredients in and I whip it and then I come up with all the formulas myself. I don't want to put shit on my face that some rando came up with himself in the back of a meat processing plant that they married in.

37:46Ronnie Karam: You know what I mean? Like I need you to get a recipe off the internet at least

37:51Ben Mandelker: Casey just making shit up that I'm gonna put all over my face I don't want my skin care to be developed on your t-shaped island So Tessa's like, Sarah, are you clean? Are you clean? So okay, let's get in there Let's go, let's get Casey Let's get Casey a towel, okay? Because she's about to She's about to get in the Listen, you can't do You can't do Tyler without a towel Okay, so let's get into it Okay, they're like uh tessa why are you putting gasoline in the middle of that jar of tallow i just can't help it

38:23Ronnie Karam: oh habits die hard boss man i need to fill this fuel into something now show me that ring girl oh wow that is beautiful i just can't believe cole's gonna get married this is adorable it's so good show us how you do this tallow sister and so um galena's like well congratulations on the engagements i didn't know but i wish i could have been there uh unfortunately i didn't know in case he's like yeah and glee uh tessa says well of course i mean i got something to admit to you I knew about it I knew about it cleaner I knew about it but you know I couldn't do nothing about

39:07Ben Mandelker: it I knew about it because Corbin told me and then Corbin from Love Island shows up hey that's a baby baby shower you want to come to a baby shower dead ass dead ass So then Casey is like, well, you know, he was telling me that he was going to ask you and it was not the most romantic thing. He said, he goes, I think it's time that Casey has me and Blair's last name. And I was like, oh, and I'm like, I didn't want I didn't know he was so romantic and such because everybody was there. And as he reached his spoon into that chef boyardee can and said, you're going to be my woman now. I was like, wow, you are romantic, Cole.

39:57Ronnie Karam: Uncle Jimmy was there, Darla, the whole family. Galena's like, oh, wow, way to rub it in. Thanks.

40:06Ben Mandelker: You mean Darla, that big old slut? Wow, that really was romantic.

40:14Ronnie Karam: So, let's see. Yeah, Galena's bummed. She didn't get to come. And they're like, no one says sorry. They're just like, oh, okay, nobody knew. Well, Tessa did. But unfortunately, Tessa invited a gas tank. She didn't remind, no one thought to invite you, Galena. Sorry.

40:36Ben Mandelker: So, yeah, now we go to Jesse and Allie's city house. And he comes in and Allie's like, you're going to take that out, right? You're going to take it out? Take it out? Because it's trash. And he's like, yeah. And he's like, yeah, they just keep getting smellier, her diapers. That's what diapers do. If you shit in them and they sit outside in the garbage, you don't take out the garbage. They just get stinkier because there's feces in them.

41:05Ronnie Karam: Yeah, that's how that works usually. 65 miles from McBee Farms. That is too much. I mean, I've known this for a long time. But it's still every time I see the number, it's 65 miles from McBee Farm. What are you two doing? So now Casey and Cole come in. Guess what, guys? It's taco night.

41:28Ben Mandelker: Yay, taco night. So they're making some tacos because it's also going to be game night, guys. And Stephen tells us, I'm not really sure how to describe Jesse and Allie's communications out other than non-existent. It's like they don't even wake up two hours early to journal. Like those two individually may be the worst communicators I've ever seen in my life. I've never seen someone more pessimistic about communication than those two.

41:52Ronnie Karam: Here's the problem. He went with someone who wasn't between 5 '6 and 5 '8 with blonde hair and green or blue eyes that works out constantly every second of the day before she puts the kids to bed after two hours of private schooling that we chose.

42:09Ben Mandelker: I bet they don't even spend their afternoons trying to work on memberships.

42:15Ronnie Karam: So he tells us how communication is a big miss in the family. And he's the start of changing it to the better. Yeah, we've seen your communication. It's all over social media, sir. You fucking whore. You slut. I shouldn't have known. You're doing great. You're doing great, sweetie.

42:34Ben Mandelker: Yeah, seriously. So he brought a game. It's a game for couples. And he thought, well, since they're all couples, let's all play it. You know, what could go wrong? So it's like, it's one of these like fun, provocative couples things. And before anything, even just before the game even starts, Cole McBee is like, I'll just say it right now. All right. Well, that's like two minutes. That's the best that I can do. I was like, thank you. Thank you for that. That volunteering, that information for us. America was wondering. And now you've all put us out of our anxiety.

43:10Ronnie Karam: and now he's like well steven definitely has you beat on that one it's like wait i just heard that i like that nobody in this family can last more than 30 seconds it's so funny and it's funny that they keep bringing like why do you guys keep bringing

43:26Ben Mandelker: it up it's so funny to me yeah i i also can only last like two minutes are we talking about watching

43:32Ronnie Karam: the show we're talking about sex um uh so steven's like there's friendship there's intimacy but even the intimacy one is like wow what's your favorite thing about me physically so the question is what's your favorite sexual position casey and cole cole likes it from the back for sure for sure what's your wildest sexual fantasy cole and he's like i just get a big buck and then, you know, right after, like, hammered down, you know?

44:06Ben Mandelker: They show this image of Cole just, like, with a giant buck. For, like, every deer's dream is to get murdered by a guy who's then just going to have sex.

44:17Ronnie Karam: That's my sexual fantasy. Going out and slaughtering an animal and then banging someone right after. He didn't put a shower or wash my hands or anything. It's like, yeah, get some death all over me

44:29Ben Mandelker: and go bang somebody from behind cut to seven years from now blair daddy how was i made well i saw this deer once so then ali is like um meanwhile uh more questions uh what was your uh first sexual experience and so i think it's supposed to be like what was your first sexual experience like as a child or like as a teenager i should say not a child and so ali is like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa allie is like so but allie is like no i'm gonna use this as a chance to tell everyone about that's the first time i had sex with steven so she goes oh this is a pretty good one um if it's the one that are you thinking about the same one steven okay we're in your farmhouse making out and i didn't want to have sex with you but like i took you to the shower and give you the sloppiest blow job ever and it lasts like two seconds oh my god everyone everyone's like oh Oh, right.

45:25Ronnie Karam: And Casey's like, oh, my God, I'm not that everyone's acting so prudish about it. Cole just told you he wants to slaughter things and bang somebody from behind. Like a shower blow job is really nothing. And also, can we just stop this game? Can we stop the visuals? We can stop it. We need this. So she's like, well, I probably could have stopped. But at the end of the day, you get tallow for tallow. I hear about their dad and everything he's done with women. So I thought this family was, you know, open about these things. I'm just like trying to meet them where they're at.

46:02Ben Mandelker: So then Allie is like, she's like, are you happy with the level of intimacy in our relationship? Oh, this is sorry. This is Allie with Jesse's Allie. So they are so awkward and tense because they keep smiling through their pain. So Allie's like, yeah, are you happy with the level of intimacy in our relationship? I mean, I know your answer already. He's like, what's my answer? she goes um we both have initiation problems and like that's where we lack he's like yeah but like how do you solve it if both people are and aren't having it not having initiation that's my question like i this is you're too boring to be this awkward please stop

46:38Ronnie Karam: please you guys are so boring the least you could do is you know what i mean like you got somebody has to bring something to this relationship because they're seeing back of you you know so So then Jesse tells us, yeah, since becoming a parent, like, we just, like, we just, like, don't really have intimacy anymore. And Casey's like, you guys should try 10 days of intimacy. Just hope there's enough wildlife outside to shoot. No, that's a lot of bucks.

47:08Ben Mandelker: A lot of bucks. A lot of bucks. You just make sure that you have sex 10 days in a row. So this is what Blair was like. When Blair was really young, we did this. I'm like, you know, she's still really young. I hate to break it to you. She was just so – before she became the adult that she is now, we used to have sex all the time.

47:31Ronnie Karam: Oof. Yeah. Yeah. What's one Blair just born right before the season? I know. That's what they're like.

47:39Ben Mandelker: We used to do this thing back when Blair was really young, when she was little. before she sent up to the meat processing facility to help Tessa. We used to have 10 days of intimacy.

47:52Ronnie Karam: It's like, yeah, intimacy is a huge part of a relationship. When Cole and I are getting along, that always helps. Do you know what else helps? Having babies. Helps. It always helps a relationship. So then Allie says, hey, oh, I guess,

48:12Ben Mandelker: so i guess ally with steven is with an e and ally with jesse has no e she lost the e because they lost their spark so ally is like hey was there ever time you considered ending our relationship and steven's like no although there was that time that you woke up five minutes early before i was done journaling and i thought this is not gonna work out but you know what i stuck through it through the hard times and all i just kept on journaling for five more minutes

48:40Ronnie Karam: I just kept on journaling and just kept on looking at hair dye in the store and said, what if I don't find the perfect one? I'm going to bleach your hair. I'm going to bleach your hair. Get some contacts in there. Maybe cut off her feet so she's shorter. Five, six to five. Okay, Stephen, you're spinning out. Come back. Come back, Stephen.

49:00Ben Mandelker: And then Jesse, his question is, how can I be a better partner? Well, I guess we'll both answer Because apparently the Wagyu experience wasn't enough And Ali's like, well, he's definitely one to keep stuff in So you need to communicate how you're feeling And then what you like and what you don't like And what I can do better And those kind of things Are you mad at me? Are you mad at me? He's like, that's fair

49:24Ronnie Karam: Oh, God She's like, yeah, so I would say communication And he's like, well, I should have went first Because that was going to be my answer

49:36Ben Mandelker: It's not pyramid You guys can both have the same answer

49:39Ronnie Karam: Yeah So Jesse's like Well if I had to answer I guess I would say The thing we need most Is an open line of communication

49:54Ronnie Karam: Memberships

49:55Ben Mandelker: I wish we had more memberships

49:57Ronnie Karam: That's why we got to work on them in the afternoons and so ali's like okay well then what are you hesitant to tell me because i could probably answer that like i've not told you that i've not been taking my birth control so there's something it made me feel bad so i just stopped taking my birth controls i didn't know if i should tell you up front or not yes yeah i yeah you should right shouldn't you guys need to just talk like these are discussions you should tell the audience first i would have no tell tell the audience first

50:29Ben Mandelker: let us know if there's more mcbees on the way so we can be mentally prepared and then you can tell

50:33Ronnie Karam: jesse i feel like i would have that conversation with like the mailman you know or like anybody like i this shouldn't be something that's that blair start with blair guys

50:48Ben Mandelker: not where blair then sitka then todd um so then jesse's blair who's like 30 years old now you know go tell blair everyone knows but galena oh so awkward happened again so then jesse uh is like this is something that we should probably private you know and um he's like don't you feel like do you feel like i listen to you when you're speaking with me because like you're either on your phone because that happened last week or remember when you're on your phone last week oh go ahead no i just like the idea of like remember that time last week and you were on your phone like ally has like that like has like discreet moments of time when she's allowed to be

51:30Ronnie Karam: on her phone we do not like women in this family on phones that's what we will not have like yeah we're a big believer of women telegraphing so um yeah he got mad because in the restaurant and the fancy restaurant she looked at her phone he's like wow you can't even be in the restaurant with me with it's staring at your phone so i think that's what i hate by the way i this guy who

51:53Ben Mandelker: spends all of his time up there at the farm over time because they're like it's that time why is he still at the farm so he spends excessive amounts of time at the farm and then he comes he blesses her with his like presence and she gets on the phone once and he's like oh you're not even gonna like be present with me yeah no you're the one who's not present because his whole thing is like i have i don't have enough time so the time i do have is limited and that's what you're going to do is be on the phone it's like you're the one who is on the metaphorical phone right now sir so i don't want to hear it from you with your wagyu experience yeah so he's

52:26Ronnie Karam: saying you know like when i come home from work it's just hey what's up and then we go our separate ways like she's not exactly excited to see me is anybody you're not bringing a lot to this buddy Sorry to say And she's like well but at least I'm being open I don't think Jesse does that I'm being vulnerable

52:46Ben Mandelker: Yeah well it's a real shame That that big personality walks through the doors And no one's even taking advantage of it Like no one's even saying like wow Can't wait to hear all the great stories that Jesse McBee has to share with us Please let me stop everything and hear what you have to say Yeah

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55:24Ronnie Karam: So then, um, Jesse and Coley, Coley, Jesse and Kohler taking a walk in the field and Steven comes up and what are they talking about here? We don't need all these little stupid stuff. Something really interesting.

55:37Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Um, he says, uh, they're talking about like, they may have to move out, you know, it's sad guys. Cause they're going to have to like sell things, sell part of their business. And Cole's like, yeah, it's weird. It's weird to think that like what the year is going to look like or shoot what the future is going to look like. same thing i hate to tell you just because like obviously we still have some acres so we have that it's like yeah but like i mean we're still be farming small amount you know it's like but it ain't gonna be enough he's like yeah i mean for the amount of people that we got here yeah we employed 50 to 60 people up here and provided them jobs that are close to their homes oh well

56:14Ronnie Karam: yeah and steven's like well it's it's gonna be it's gonna be rough and they're saying yeah it's going to be hard to let people go, but you know what? As long as they can still get their car washed. Okay. We're going to give them some coupons. We're going to give them some coupons. So then, uh, this turns to Galena and Steven's like, well, I sure as hell don't trust Galena to figure this out. She didn't even come to work. So all she does on the weekends is go to house wives parties. You see her all over the internet. Just look at your Instagram. There's Galena at another housewives party on the weekends.

56:44Ronnie Karam: Okay. It's the weekend. Yeah. She's a, that means Monday through friday she's always there you specified a few times here that she's only gone on the weekends what the fuck is wrong with that you're never even here you don't even know that's just being bought and sold steve like she's trying to get people to watch this show okay well i mean

57:04Ben Mandelker: she's no she's taking a victory lap she's on she's famous now she's she's trying to to milk this as much as she can yes but she is also raising the profile of the show i mean if she's putting her face up on various real housewives instagrams people would be like who's that and they'll look and they'll see oh a fan of mcb show i haven't watched that show because ben can watch her crap and hates it so much so i don't watch it but like maybe i should watch it and then they watch it and then she becomes more popular and we gets another season so you know what like she's bringing

57:33Ronnie Karam: money to you guys oh and it's funny too that he's like but she's all over instagram you're dating an influencer yeah are you what are you so upset about and how about that that's a good point so fuck off. So, um, Cole's like, I'm like, Galena, do you not know my dad's leaving December 1st? Like, you'd think she'd just lock in a little bit right now. Yeah.

57:57Ben Mandelker: Well, that's going to be your dad, actually, unfortunately for you. Yeah. Nope. I'm intended, right?

58:04Ronnie Karam: She really needs to lock in. She needs to get a lock pick. Okay. You guys are fucked. And you and jesse are probably fucked too because your stuff is built on his land like they're coming after jesse and cole too which i find interesting well i read allegedly i read this that they're in danger as well because of stuff that steve jr transferred to their names and stuff and i thought it was interesting that it's just those two and not steve that are brought into this stuff so now

58:34Ben Mandelker: we move forward to austerea bianchi which is in town somewhere maybe in the city it's in this it's a city city restaurant and uh big city uh casey and ally meet up and um casey's asking where where's jesse what's he up to and ally is saying how he's supposed to be hunting with jake but then he was going to come back home last night but he was up at the farm yesterday and today instead And Casey's like, has he been working at the farm? I think that's part of being at the farm, but that's okay, right?

59:10Ronnie Karam: Well, basically, we find out that he hangs out with his brothers. Well, I guess we find this out later, but he just goes to hang out with his brothers all day, and they hunt all night and just hang out with each other. i mean i get that but god this they should never i mean i get that as far as like that's your job or whatever but you have like a wife and a child you can't just be out hanging out with your bros

59:36Ben Mandelker: your literal they also wasn't she also going to move up to the the country full-time or to the

59:42Ronnie Karam: farm full-time like her thing oh well that's what they last season on did they agree that she would

59:49Ben Mandelker: move to the farm maybe not this is probably like an ongoing issue with them i mean it was god they only got married last season that the fact that their relationship is so shitty so soon i mean it

59:58Ronnie Karam: usually takes two seasons for this yeah but they never solved it he wanted to be at the farm and she wanted to be in the city and she's like but it's only you know a little bit away it's 65 miles away you know and then they got married and had a baby without really solving that one

1:00:16Ben Mandelker: yeah so um al is like i honestly don't think i would have been able to make it through the past couple of months postpartum without christy or my mom you know and so she's saying how everything like stressful times just wanted normalcy she didn't really have anyone to talk to and she says yeah i expressed it to him but you know it's one of those things that he has to be actively listening and i'd be totally willing and we talked about the 10 days of intimacy I don't be totally willing to do that But I haven't heard a peep from him And he's been staying at the farm It's like hello can't be intimate if you're at the farm So yeah It's like my best friend but I don't know Things are lacking

1:00:55Ronnie Karam: Yeah they're just not into it And you know they were kind of like this Even when they were getting married Which is I don't know It's sad this is a depressing relationship For sure And she's like neither one of us Will take the initiative or me in case he's like well i don't want you to go anywhere because i don't know how i'm going to survive the mcb's without you but i sure do love having you in the family do you know what does tell me about the back of your elbows is your elbow skin good or does it need moisturizing i formulated a new tallow tallow tallow tallow so now now we go to jesse and cole they're writing

1:01:36Ben Mandelker: farm equipment and um jesse gets trapped in his combine and it's it's a sad day when cole has to show you how to open a door he's like here's how you do it and jesse's like oh wow he's like you gotta pull it towards you that's how you open a door and i didn't think about that you gotta

1:01:54Ronnie Karam: rain trust is going to love the migby farm show where nobody has knows how to use these things that they're pretending to work on it's like wow how do i open the door to the tractor like last year when cole's like i'm gonna do this and he immediately crashes the first time he's trying to pretend on tv that he knows how to know come on you posers and then we go from there to after

1:02:19Ben Mandelker: cole saves his brother from perishing inside the combine we cole goes back to his house where casey sitting there uh and ali's holding a baby actually ali's there and um casey's like hey do you want i'm actually i'm sorry cole is not there he's spiritually there but he's not there it's ali and casey are there and uh but this is blonde alley not sad alley and so i guess they're both sad alleys just a different type of sad alley point is they're there with blair we're gonna

1:02:52Ronnie Karam: make some tallow. And Allie's like, oh my gosh. So Casey brings over this big bag of kidney fat and she's like, it's all from the meat facility. I won't make you touch it. It's just got a very beefy smell. And that's why I do so many renders to get the smell out. Stinky dead meat. Gosh, I'm probably selling them like hotcakes. People watching this show.

1:03:15Ben Mandelker: Allie's like, hold on. I couldn't hear you from all the way the other end of this T-shaped island. Let me come across over closer to you now hold on while i squeeze in between this leg of the tee and the wall and okay now i'm standing next to you wow so how's it being in business with it being connected to the mcb's um i like it being on the mcb website but i do wish i could add something on labeling or something that it's my product because of course these guys these geniuses have made this beef tallow and it has like this very like manly label and it's like casey is trying to design something that's like feminine and nice and skincare and it's got this look like my tallow i'm like yeah it's gonna want to like who are you trying to market this to and are they gonna be

1:04:01Ronnie Karam: attracted to that mark that label it's also just very plain i think it's like just a very plain nondescript kind of looking thing i mean i wouldn't really recognize that but of course also the guys are just like okay casey will do all the work and then you know we'll take all the many from it have you seen this look up right now mcb tallow the way they packaged it it literally looks like extreme mayonnaise it's just like it's like a jar it's a jar with like a black label and just says beef tallow and then it says mcb farm but that's just like a that's just like a normal font it's like a i mean it's not like helvetica but so i'm not like a font oh i see what you mean like the uh logo they upgraded very very yeah it's like very very masculine it's like the yellow stone they're trying to do the yellow thing with the m like we got it guys your yellowstone ripoff

1:05:04Ben Mandelker: but if you look at just look up tallow just look up tallow and you just see all the other tallows that are out there just look so much nicer.

1:05:17Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Well, they all look kind of like coconut oil when they're packed, but yeah. I just don't like this packaging. That's what I'm going to say. I'm going to stick to it. It's not great for sure. So she, and of course, Allie's like, well, how is it having your business connected to McBeast? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Do you think that maybe advertising might help? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, okay, okay. And Casey's like, well, I put in like$12 ,000 into this business. I haven't even seen any money. So maybe that would be great. You know, I've been working on it five days a week because I really care about the products.

1:05:54Ronnie Karam: And I believe in Talo.

1:05:58Ben Mandelker: And Ali's like, so my first job out of college was working for a brand that I did 10x the revenue. That was industry terms. And I did that the first month. Revenue was$1 first month. So I brought up to$10. So hello, 10X. And then I was hired and I learned the power of selling online. Wow. Congratulations. You learned that people buy things online, Ali. You really are a marketing guru.

1:06:23Ronnie Karam: And Ali is like, you guys just built this kitchen. You're getting married. I mean, this is a really cool storyline. You guys should document it. Like this is totally, this is content. Like everywhere, look, content, content, content. I mean, you guys could be like, people could really get into Talo.

1:06:40Ben Mandelker: Talo is the new TikTok Feta. Okay, you should just totally document this everywhere.

1:06:47Ronnie Karam: So Ali's like, yeah, from what I've seen online, this is a very hot topic. Everywhere you go, people are like, Talo, Talo, Talo, Talo, Talo. It's like literally nuts. I could take this to the next level.

1:07:00Ben Mandelker: So then we go back to Cole, and he's like, boy, that game at your house was real something, Jesse. I feel like I learned too much about Steven and Allie right whoa whoa whoa Cole says as if he was not the one who said I only last two minutes so then Jesse's like yeah it was like he likes to share I don't I don't really like to do that I don't share none I don't like you know I mean I lit and also I once like if they're crazy over there and Cole's like yeah one time I went over to their house and they had like 150 like candles lit he's like yeah I don't like candles like Unless I've cooked bacon or something.

1:07:36Ben Mandelker: But other than that.

1:07:37Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Yikes. So Cole's like, wow, you guys really talked about yourselves. I've never heard you be that open before. And he's like, well, we never really talked about it to other people. You know, like having summer, that was like a really big change. And it was really hard on us. You know, like lack of sleep, change of lifestyle. You know, it's just been really hard. How do you think she feels living in the fucking house without you, 65 miles away While you're hunting and fucking drinking with your brothers I know I don't want to hear how fucking hard it is for you

1:08:10Ben Mandelker: Did they ever name their baby by the way Because we know about Blair But what's the other baby's name Blair I don't know what their baby's name is I feel like they never named it I'm pretty sure it has no name yet Like the streets So um Jesse's like Huh It's named Candle Candle I was inspired by seeing that candle, that non-bacon use of a candle at Stephen's house.

1:08:37Ronnie Karam: He's like, yeah, like with everything going on with my dad and like us having a kid, it's a lot of pressure. Like, it's just bad right now. Like you just get into the grind of things, you know, like maybe I put our marriage second or third, but I'm sure Allie would say the same thing. Life has ups and downs, but it just seems like we sure are going downhill. Oh, shucks. I'm not buying this nice bullshit anymore I saw you last week in that restaurant Wagyu experience

1:09:06Ben Mandelker: Summer Their child's name is Summer, by the way So I think I just get them all mixed together You know Yeah, especially because there's like a lot of summers on Bravo So I hope that baby I hope that baby is fun Because last time I heard, summer should be fun So then we see Ali uh riding along with steven blonde alley they're in the car she's like can we go to starbucks and he's like yes ma 'am god i love that that wasn't even on my list of daily activities but i'm gonna wedge you right in there after memberships and before journaling and uh he's like by the way how was that uh meeting how'd that meeting go with case siege because um well i think that this tallow has the potential to be one of the biggest products in the mcb's i'm curious what your thoughts are and the partnerships you guys have because it sounds like from her point of view, skincare tallow is hers, all hers.

1:09:59Ben Mandelker: Is it true that you guys let women have their own businesses?

1:10:04Ronnie Karam: Did she even get up two hours after y 'all just so you can have time to journal? He's like, well, when I wanted to do tallow, my idea back in 2023, it was with my ex and you know, I built up the branding, I built up the packaging and I tried to push my ex to take over. Apparently she doesn't care about orders and that's why she's gone. I couldn't get her memberships, sorry. That's why she's gone. I couldn't get her to do it. Casey, why don't you take this over and run with it? That's what I said. Casey, no nothing, Casey. I said, you're a blonde person. You do it.

1:10:39Ben Mandelker: Have you ever seen a grown woman stick her hands into a bucket of fat and run away? That's what she did until she realized that I wasn't being literal when I said

1:10:47Ronnie Karam: run with it well she mentioned investing and buying everything it's like if it's if it's her brand but like it sounds like it's yours so like i don't know like i think you guys need to have a conversation 20 i will take 20 that is 20 thank you something that no one ever wants to hear you should have a conversation with casey well i can't wait for that so then ally is like yeah

1:11:15Ben Mandelker: Yes, even in case they haven't even narrowed down exactly what everyone's role is. I mean, this is a massive deal. This is not a one-man job. It's going to take a team to grow this brand. And I just have a lot of questions. And each question is worth 1 % of the company. And the game is called 20 questions. Okay. See you at the signing.

1:11:35Ronnie Karam: So, of course, Stephen's like, wow, Ali's interested in this now. Wow, this has the potential to be a real thing. We can blow it up. And I would just think that if I was in Casey's shoes, I would think, God, why are these shoes so cheap? But then I would also think, I would understand. I'm overwhelmed. This is beyond me. I can't do this. If we're going to scale this, I need Steve McPhee Jr. to come in and do every damn thing. I mean, she should be begging me at this point. Why are you so defensive? Like, you haven't even had the conversation with her. You've apparently not done a lot. Like, you made a canva, you know?

1:12:09Ronnie Karam: Like, we've seen the labels, okay? They're not that intense.

1:12:12Ben Mandelker: so they're not good he's got to be fussy he's got to be fussy because this is the classic thing it's like he's just like okay whatever do the stupid tallow thing i don't care like whatever i'll i'll post something on instagram and then she does it and then she does well at it and now he realizes that he missed the boat so now he's got to get mad at her almost to be like well i i wasn't my fault that i missed it it's just that they're just not being professional they don't even know what they're doing so now he's getting himself all into it ask for help why won't she even ask for help

1:12:40Ronnie Karam: Like she should be coming to me. I know everything. I do this. I have a degree. Like, okay, well, this is you stepping into the TV show and then deciding you're suddenly going to act like you're active, a part of all of these businesses. The only time we saw this guy actually do something in the business, well, I mean, except all the multiple failure meetings that we've seen, was when he was doing the thing last season with the selling the steaks thing. And then he cut all the fat off to steaks and then they got fired. So I don't know. I wouldn't even trust Casey over you at this point.

1:13:15Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I wouldn't. Let's go on to something that's more exciting than kidney fat, which is Masha's boudoir photos. So she's in an apartment. The photographer's there. Is it Monica? Monica. And they've set up a little set. Allie comes over to art direct. these boudoir photos and um uh they uh they're gonna do uh they're gonna do this photo shoot and masha is very uncomfortable at first uh well actually first ally comes in and she tries to do some like gen z language she sees masha and she goes period i was like you are no kata she's like yas queen yas queen dad us we are gonna do this together we are gonna do a calendar okay

1:14:08Ronnie Karam: give me some poses oh my god are your boobs real i can tell what like who says that much is like oh my god it's not good you can tell like what a weird thing to say to someone and she's like yeah okay give me some looks give me some looks oh god that is giving linkedin that is giving linkedin give me put your hand on your face like this oh my god sex symbol i did it nailed it wow

1:14:35Ben Mandelker: she's like this is something this is nothing this is something this is nothing um so masha says in my 20s i did some modeling but you know it's been a few years since i was in the back pages of belarus vogue so i'm starting off a little slow

1:14:56Ronnie Karam: Ruble saver. This is Ruble saver. I was on the cover.

1:15:01Ben Mandelker: I was on 321 Belarus Contact Magazine.

1:15:08Ronnie Karam: Out of all the girls in the family, Ali is most relatable to me. She's taking pictures of me in lingerie. So, it is fun. She's taking questions while I pause. So fun. So, so fun.

1:15:23Ben Mandelker: but it is a little difficult to express to her that there is no a at the end of belarus yeah but it's got to have usa in it right no it's just belarus not belarus say

1:15:37Ronnie Karam: bella the ruse is this is really the usa because there ain't nothing else

1:15:42Ben Mandelker: you are you are really really trying hard to make this fit your world vision

1:15:50Ronnie Karam: or the liberty belarus is that what it's called no so she's like you're doing great sweetie masha's looks she's like oh my god your parents look so young how old is your father she's like oh my god don't even fucking think about it masha he's 55 do not think about it

1:16:14Ben Mandelker: so then ally is like so they uh wrap up they have a little bit of champagne and ally is like so do you think you're gonna drop steve steve mcbee off at jail she goes well i want to go but i want to be there but he said it's all up to christy so if she's not going to allow me to go then i cannot go the way i was told was christy said i cannot be at family occasions Even though me, Masha, high beauty model from Belarus.

1:16:43Ronnie Karam: I cannot wait for Christy to see completely tasteful boudoir porn. I'm doing her boudoir calendar. I'm doing four gifts. But I have plan.

1:16:55Ben Mandelker: I will put giant latte in the middle of a field. And while she is distracted and drinking it, I will go to jailhouse and see him off.

1:17:08Ronnie Karam: So Steve Dinger calls and Ally's like, hi, Steve, we're just over here shooting grandma's boudoir photos. Excuse me. Ally, you know, she acts like she's so nice, but she keeps making these little comments. How are people not smacking Ally? Like, what the hell?

1:17:27Ben Mandelker: And also, like, if you're going to do this, can you at least make a good pun? Grand Masha? I mean, come on. It's right there. Yeah. It's right there.

1:17:35Ronnie Karam: There you go.

1:17:36Ben Mandelker: It's right there.

1:17:37Ronnie Karam: He's like, I just pulled up Okay She's like, do not come in here It is so dirty She's wearing a very racy turtleneck right now Nope, I will stay right where I am Oops, I just came Sorry

1:17:52Ben Mandelker: She's wearing something from Lane Bryant Okay, do not come up here

1:17:57Ronnie Karam: So then we go

1:17:59Ben Mandelker: Lane Bryant's business casual, right?

1:18:01Ronnie Karam: Yeah Well, Lane Bryant, I think, is for bigger. It's like oversized. Oh. Or larger sized stuff. I meant that to Talbots.

1:18:12Ben Mandelker: She's wearing something from Talbots.

1:18:14Ronnie Karam: Yes.

1:18:14Ben Mandelker: Sorry.

1:18:15Ronnie Karam: Yeah, there we go. So, did you see me? I had a feeling. I was like, something sounds

1:18:20Ben Mandelker: wrong about that. Wait a second. I just radared me. My Lane Bryant door went off. I was like, wait a second. You misused that brand.

1:18:29Ronnie Karam: No, I know Lane Bryant because I was, you know, I've always had some weight issues and when i was a kid i would think gosh why don't they have that for guys you know yeah like oversized stuff all i got was like three pairs of pants from you know the chunky kids dillard's or whatever back in the day well the guys they're totally indelicate

1:18:49Ben Mandelker: about it for women it's like lane bryant for guys like big and tall

1:19:02Ben Mandelker: it's just so like indelicate um back to the farm you know what's so funny our our our note taker accidentally instead of writing farm fulfillment wrote farm dull filament and i have to say that is exactly the way it should be spelled but i think that was for you

1:19:22Ronnie Karam: so um steven jr is with casey and he's like cole must be watching blair right now do you have his location jesus it's like no he goes well that should be something now that y 'all are engaged see where ally is better be taking a nap right now she's not around me i don't want her awake or focused on anybody else yeah um he's like so how do you feel about that

1:19:47Ben Mandelker: Tell her, Skincare line right now, you're doing a lot of dirtling about it? Oh, that's right. You don't get to. You got to wake up after the dirtling time. She's like, yeah. Well, I need help, though. It's, like, very time-consuming, and I figured out a way to be able to work on it every single day. But I don't know. It's just with Blair, it's hard. He's like, well, and you're planning a wedding, too. Okay. Well, I told you at the beginning, you keep 100 % of all the profits. All the profits. And I thought it was going to be a side project you could work on. but it's not. It's a monster. And we're sitting on if we do this right, okay?

1:20:22Ben Mandelker: We're sitting on an actual monster. It's like putting a chair on top of coal. And I think we're looking at a product that could do$5 million a year in revenue. And if we do it right, we're going to have to have a certified area specific to skincare, full-time production people, a full-time marketing scheme, and people who are not pessimistic about Tallow.

1:20:43Ronnie Karam: Tallow has more momentum than any other product in the U.S. of A. And that is it. And that is why we need it in here. Allie's done something. You know, let me tell you what Allie does. She runs companies. And we need Allie in here. You're going to give it. Here's how it's going to work. 40 % to you, Casey. 40 % to the McBees. 20 % to Allie. She's like, what? Allie, what are you talking about? At first I thought he meant Jesse's Allie.

1:21:15Ben Mandelker: Yeah. 100 % all the way down to 40 and then giving 20 % of the company to this this dingbat who just showed up just and her big thing was like you gotta sell things online like no if you want to use Ali's expertise you hire her as a contractor she doesn't get ownership of the company Jesus

1:21:33Ronnie Karam: yes or you give her a percentage with a code or something like that because she's an influencer so she's going to go on her page and be like look tallow I use it and then people will buy it but jesus christ 20 of the company this does even know you're not supposed to snort the tallow what is going on in his brain right now yeah we should have seen this coming when in the car when well when ali was talking to her she's like so how do you feel about advertising

1:22:01Ben Mandelker: no no get get your hands off get so get your non-tallow moisturized hands off this company bitch

1:22:12Ronnie Karam: yeah so Casey's like wow that's pretty common for Steven to show a little bit of interest in something completely ignore it for a while and then completely disregard the people that have been doing all the work yes exactly so please find a way to stand up for yourself

1:22:29Ben Mandelker: he's like well how do you envision this if Ali and I come into it and he'll take the brand to the top like what part of you having to sell off all of your farm says you're going to take this to the top Oh, I'm sorry. You had a local ad about a car wash, so therefore you're qualified to do this thing. Get out of here.

1:22:45Ronnie Karam: The first season was all they need to get this contract because if they get this contract, it's going to save the farm. And the whole season leads up to this finale episode, and the guy's like, no, you don't get the contract. Like, damn it. Then the second season – what is this, season three? So then the second season is this whole, like, we have to do this to save the farm. Then they have to start selling off the farm and losing everything. Although Cole did do the soybean thing that ended up doing okay. And now this season they're selling off the entire farm. And he's like, you need me. I do everything.

1:23:19Ronnie Karam: You've done nothing. But this farm is blowing up. And you're supposed to be the head of it. Now it's not the time I hand you my tallow company. He's like, this could be a$5 million company. Because she made it big.

1:23:33Ben Mandelker: She made the tallow. She is the one. And Steven's like, you know, Allie, she brings a shit ton of value. Aritzia, in the last two and a half months, she moved$1.1 million product. And that was just in one month alone. The next month, she sold$500 million. She took over Aritzia. She actually owns Aritzia. And she turned Aritzia into Macy's. She's amazing. She's got to come on. Aritzia is everything. I love Aritzia.

1:23:59Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And he's like, this could be in Target, Sephora, Ulta. Okay, but it's not.

1:24:08Ben Mandelker: This could be in a store that's part of a nationwide boycott for two months that's gone so badly they've had to fire their CEO. Don't you understand the potential here?

1:24:19Ronnie Karam: So Cole calls, and Stephen's like, do you have Blair? And he's like, yep. Cole, Casey and I are trying to figure this out. Okay, if I come into this, if you guys are lucky enough to get me into this, see, you're not even in it. Why are you sitting here making these hard bargains? This guy is such an arrogant asshole. So he's telling Cole, you know, and then Allie can come in and then we can push it on social and she'll get 20%. And Cole's like, that's kind of a lot. And he's like, McBee Farms has 40%, Casey 40%, Allie 20%. She's like, this is like a product I really care about. I mean, I want you guys to help, but it makes me a little nervous because Allie's only been here one month.

1:25:02Ronnie Karam: You know, I think you should only be able to get fucked over by people who have been here. I don't know. As long as I've known you, you know, the rest of you are fucking me over. So I don't also want to get fucked over by a newbie, you know, I feel like give, I don't, I'm really bad at valuating things.

1:25:22Ben Mandelker: I don't know, or valuing things. I don't know how much ownership the McBee should have. i think if they're using the mcbee meats and they're using the mickey infrastructure for sure like it's not unreasonable to ask for mcbee family farms to have some sort of percentage yeah i really don't know what it would be i think 40 seems actually quite high but um ali gets zero she gets actually negative 10 she actually owes she actually has to pay this company at this point I want her to pay the fucking tallow company Because I can't stand this

1:25:56Ronnie Karam: Yeah And it's also It also seems like a controlling thing for him He's like oh now I can tie this girl in And now she'll be contracted to me And what's she gonna do just leave me

1:26:06Ben Mandelker: Yeah that was creepy Um So uh Then we go to Jesse and Allie's city house And um Allie's on the floor playing with Summer And she's like Jesse we need a bottle please We need a bottle and so he gets her a bottle and everything. It's like tense and awkward. And he's like, look, look what I got you. I'm the savior. Your mom can hold it. You didn't put the bottles away. He's talking to the baby. Summer, as we know her name is called, obviously, and we always knew. And Allie is like, we were busy. So Casey texted me and she had a conversation, I guess, with Stephen about the tallow. She just is confused.

1:26:42Ben Mandelker: And Stephen was insane. The amount of times they talk about tallow on this episode, It's like that's all they have to talk about. It's either Talo or Cole splooching in two minutes.

1:26:55Ronnie Karam: It's like, Don't forget about that boudoir shoot for the calendar. That was pretty big. That was a pretty big moment. Sponsored by Talo. Watershed moment. It was a Talo shed moment in Talo TV. So Ali, we see Ali calling Casey and she's like, I wanted to skip on your conversation with Steven. She's like, he's thinking it's getting too big and it's going to be fun. $5 million, but Allie gets, it's going to be a$5 million business, but Allie gets 20%. And she's like, what? And so Allie's like, yeah, Casey, did you stand up for yourself? I mean, that's your business, but, you know, no one deserves that.

1:27:35Ronnie Karam: That's yours. That's your company.

1:27:39Ben Mandelker: She's like, but, but, but. And Allie's like, you never know what could happen. I mean, I hope and pray it works out for them. but what happens is something does happen with steven and ali and she gets to take off with 20 of your company cole's like yeah um i do think that there's like a lot that he could help with and like he already knows how to do things like um drive trucks and the truck can bring the tallow around you know so that's like pretty good that's probably worth 70 of the company but like i definitely think that like honestly you need to like be the majority owner by far and like i don't know like mcb farms owns like a portion but you need to you need to be the majority owner casey

1:28:14Ronnie Karam: well he tells us that well he tells her that but then he tells us well i kind of feel like i'm in the middle here between casey and steven and tallow you know i want to support casey but the farms could really use this money oh you fucking of course of course you're like wow this was this was a good thing but now that it's making some money i'm gonna go take it from my wife because my company fuck oh gross well because you know that company paid for his house so he's sort of

1:28:44Ben Mandelker: like indebted you know it's like the mafia it's like well that's true it's for you so you better give that that kidney fat face cream back over so they hang up and um jesse's like well that's

1:28:59Ronnie Karam: nice that casey trusts you enough to call you about that stuff yeah they're are you new here

1:29:05Ben Mandelker: she also like she has no friends she has literally no one to call it's like you or she's calling movie phone so ally is like yeah honestly he found i just was there's nothing i'm not saying that she's she's hello and she's isolated movie phone um could i buy two tickets to what should i do with my tallow business i'm sorry i did not get that what's a good percentage 7 30. okay i'll

1:29:33Ronnie Karam: take seven seven percent so now we start talking about the relationship and um ali is saying she was expressing her concerns about game night you know she's like i don't know if you really heard me you know because like i feel like i wasn't heard but i could have done that 10 days of intimacy but you've been gone you know it's like you've been gone the past two days like We did the game and then you bolted And he's like but I didn't realize Me going to the farms was really a big deal Like I mean it was like It's not like it was a specific reason Or anything like that

1:30:14Ben Mandelker: You didn't even ask about Summer though well That's cause we're in fall No your daughter who summer What about it it's fall No your daughter who Summer oh we're doing One of those loops again Allie yeah I know because well i feel like you have a lot of freedom to be able to just go up to the farm

1:30:35Ronnie Karam: she says that she's saying like i feel like stop doing your impersonation of me ali it's like it's disconcerting to me she's like i mean i feel like you have a reason you're always up at the farm but then i have to like be here and take care of the kid and stuff and he's like well but i encourage you to go out with your friends and do this and that and i'll watch summer how's she gonna do that when you're at the farm are you not listening to this and how anyways like i would give you time and i would do it but you you won't let me do any any you won't let me do it so if you're not going to take advantage of this free night we have then i'm going to go to the farm and hunt and hang out with my buddies no a free night she could just spend it with each other it's yeah she wants to

1:31:19Ben Mandelker: hang out with you yeah so they both feel like they're going through the motions and uh she's like she just wants to see change because like anybody say can sit here and say that we're going to change but it's actually the actions and when i look at the mcbee boys i say those are three men who can definitely change like they are they're malleable men who are not set in their ways

1:31:41Ronnie Karam: also men of action men of action introspective doesn't even know how to open a tractor door you know what I mean and then Allie does is is saying exactly what she needs in all of this so I mean they keep saying communication is their problem but hers is pretty solid here she's like you know I mean I just want to feel wanted any relationship a person wants to feel wanted he's like yeah but that goes both ways well you know and like if you're saying that you don't then I can say I don't either so like you don't seem excited when I get home and you don't even say hi to me when i get home be exciting when you come home so that way people are excited excited does anybody even know you're there like the door has more personality the wagyu experience has more personality so uh they're like well yeah we'll just work on it

1:32:35Ben Mandelker: because like we just need to try to find that spark again i guess well anything else you want get off your chest i don't think so okay that's where it ends good luck on that spark we'll be uh we'll be sure to uh put out let's see if we can add an air tag to it see if we can find that spark seeking spark oh my gosh the tallow the tallow the tallow well thanks everyone for being here for a McBee Dynasty episode and we still have way more shows later this week. We got The Valley, we got Next Gen, we got Orange County, so lots of content. Keep an eye on your feed and we'll catch you on the next episode of Watch What Crappens.

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