#3472 Next Gen NYC S2E05 Part 1: Riff Raff and Horror Shows

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2:29Ronnie Karam: Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hi, Ben. Hi, Ronnie. How are you? What are you doing?

2:38Ben Mandelker: Good. What's going on with you today? You know, it's been a long week of podcasting and we are reaching the end of it. We just have Next Gen New York City in Orange County and then put up the feet for some R &R. So I'm just, I'm seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and I'm excited. But I also like the darkness in the back of the tunnel is also really great because this is really fun stuff to do. But still, it's like it's almost Friday. I feel it in my bones. No more podcasting. What are you doing this weekend?

3:08Ronnie Karam: Anything good?

3:10Ben Mandelker: I think I'm going to try to sew. I haven't sewn in so long. So I'm going to try to like dedicate some time to sew. I'm going to make a cake this afternoon. I'm really excited. I basically, I'm just like ready to luxuriate. What about you?

3:24Ronnie Karam: Yes. My friends invited me to a rave. And I was like, you're still inviting me to raves, huh? So, I don't know. Throwback to 25 years ago. Well, I don't know. I call it a rave. It's like a big gay dance party. But to me, I just don't call it a rave. But it's like something downtown on Saturday. But girl, I don't know. because, you know, these days 10 o 'clock comes around and I'm one of those who embraces being old in a way. You know, obviously I just got plastic surgery, but I embrace it mostly. Like I really do like to just go to bed at 10, get up as the sun rises. So I don't know that I can do a rave thing, especially without drugs, you know, because back in the day you would stay up all night because you're on drugs.

4:15Ben Mandelker: So I just feel like I'm not going to take my 47 year old self to a rave. I'm sorry. I'm just not going to do that.

4:28Ronnie Karam: I've been, I go to, I go, you know, I still go to them sometimes with them. I always have a good time, but we'll see. We'll see. When is the cutoff point where I say this is enough? I don't know that I've reached it yet, but we'll see this weekend. But today is next gen NYC season two, episode five, Brooklyn Horror Story. Oh, if you want this on video, patreon.com. That's where you get all our videos. Just search Watch What Crappens on there. You get bonus episodes. This week was personal stories, stuff we've got going on in our lives. And that's also where you get our free newsletter. It's like a weekly blog where I make fun of these shows in writing.

5:07Ronnie Karam: And also, what else is over there? A Discord server where you guys can talk to each other. Amazon Live is Monday at 1.30pm We do those every Monday. This is Pacific time. And then Monday at 5.30 p.m. We do crappy hour, which is our live show talking with you guys about all the Bravo headlines. Find links to all of that over at our Instagram. Lincoln boy.

5:30Ben Mandelker: Yeah, this is going to be a big crappy hour this week. We got a lot of a lot of Bravo guys coming out. A lot of stuff over in Salt Lake City. That's for sure. A lot of breakups.

5:41Ronnie Karam: A lot of breakups. Stuff happening in Salt Lake City. So here we go. Next Gen NYC. So I guess Riley has just left Ariana's where she had a conversation with Ariana about last week. Man, people are really, really got upset with all the Riley stuff, huh?

6:00Ben Mandelker: Yeah, people were really upset. In fact, people were actually even a little upset at us for actually kind of giving her some grace. People were like, she's a drunk asshole. Like, you don't have to talk about like her hard upbringing. She was just a drunk asshole. And let me tell you something. I agree. She was being a drunk asshole. But I think we were talking about like, I think we just started, just started digging in and that's where we got with that. But yeah, she was being a drunk asshole. That's, that's what it was. We've all seen those 23 year old drunk assholes and that's what she was.

6:29And Candy was not happy about it.

6:32Ben Mandelker: I don't know.

6:33Ronnie Karam: No, I do give her great. It says, you know, she grew up on our TVs. Like we've seen Riley since she's a little baby. And all sides, I watched the Valley. I watch all this other Bravo shit where they are so fucking vile to each other that I'm just not, I'm sorry, I can't lose my mind about Riley getting drunk and being snotty. I'm not going to lose my mind about it.

7:00Ben Mandelker: It was just one of those things like, oh, wow, Riley. So the thing that drove me nuts with Riley is that she'll heavily imply something. and then when someone says, well, I never said, well, I think I have, they sort of like address the thing that she heavily applies. She goes, I never said that. That's what drives me nuts. If someone did that to me over and over again, I'd be like, okay, we're not friends anymore.

7:21Ronnie Karam: Well, that's what happened last week, but Riley's not even in this episode. She's out of there.

7:26Ben Mandelker: That's because this entire episode takes place in the same night. It's pretty much a bottle episode. Yeah, and she left. Yeah, and she left to go back to Atlanta. As people on the internet were saying, uh candy was like you get back here right this minute young lady there are headlines about you

7:43Ronnie Karam: not under my watch uh so yeah we start uh at that last scene and uh the girls are getting ready it's for halloween guys it's for the rocky horrors in whatever rapid waters like no one knows what this is you guys spend your entire life on the phone all you do is stare at your phones and worry about who's liking what and texting each other there's a search function on your phone fucking google it's a theme party google the theme also like i know they want to

8:15Ben Mandelker: paint it like this is like something for old people like what is like the rocky picture horror picture and it's like i get that you're trying to paint it that way but i was not alive during the prime of rocky horror so like me all we all found out about it many years ago it's really not that hard to know about it just like requires like the most minimal shred of uh pop culture awareness to

8:42Ronnie Karam: know about rocky horror picture show yeah it's a 1975 movie so i was when it when i found out what it was it was a thing for old people you're like oh yeah you know everything our parents used to dance around to and sing along to and dress up like okay weirdos and then they show it at a screening and you know eventually i mean maybe it's a gay you know maybe it's because i'm a gay but that was eventually we all got dragged to it at some point it was fun you know right but it's

9:12Ben Mandelker: like if if the event was themed like uh delta burke sings elder barge i'd be like that's fair that's definitely a moment that's like the 1980s right there and like if you weren't part of the 80s you were like this makes no sense to you but the rocky heart picture show is like an enduring pop culture thing from generation to generation and it's not it's not an old person thing it's just a thing that's out there so like for the fact that they're all just like so bothered by almost burdened by the fact that they have to learn this new pop culture element is so hilarious to me

9:49Ronnie Karam: yeah um they're just out of touch people in general and also speaking of they have to go to brooklyn what i know i was like are you still thinking about delta burke singing elder marsh i am and i was like is this too early to go off the rails we've barely talked about this show but i was thinking about delta burke like post designing women and she went on some talk show and they're like what have you been doing delta how are things i'm just so happy here's what i do now all day long i shellac things i'm obsessed with shellac and things look at this this is a rose from my garden i shellacked it and it's just this hard rock you know she's like then that way things don't die you just can shellac them i made some cookies that i liked one time and i didn't you know they were so good i wanted to remember them so i shellacked one look it's a cookie i shellacked and the hosts are just looking it are like wow that's incredible delta it's so good that we have delta here could we get somebody

10:50Ben Mandelker: to pick up fucking get someone check it on gerald mcrainy and make sure he's not under a coating of

10:56Ronnie Karam: shellac so uh here's my favorite chihuahua i loved him so much i had him shellac like whoa whoa delta

11:08Ben Mandelker: So, so yeah, so they're still getting ready for this Rocky Horror experience in Brooklyn. As you started to mention, they are horrified that they have to go deep into Brooklyn. And honestly, I get it. We are a podcast that talks frequently about the horrors of having to drive to places like Marina del Rey or to Santa Clarita. So I cannot at all begrudge anyone having to go from, you know, Manhattan to deep Brooklyn. I get it.

11:37Ronnie Karam: I don't even know if it was deep Brooklyn. They keep saying it was.

11:43Ben Mandelker: The House of Yes. Where's the House of Yes? The House of Yes is located in Bushwick. It's Bushwick. I know I've heard of Bushwick. I may have even been to it, but I don't know. I actually don't really know where it is. But it's a one-minute walk from the Jefferson Street Station on the L train. How about that? You know Brooklyn because you used to live there, right?

12:04Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but I lived in Williamsburg, which was, I think, the first stop off of the L. So it wasn't really, you know, I wasn't in deep, deep, deep Brooklyn. Like they're making this sound. So I didn't learn all the Brooklyn stops, you know. I knew my neighborhood and that was pretty much it. So they're like mortified because they're like rich and they have to go to Brooklyn, which, you know, is a standard Bravo trope. and so they're all trying to well they're not trying to figure it out they're just complaining that they don't know what it is Rocky Horror that is so Brooks calls his sister Chloe and his mom and they have a family group talk about how crazy it is that we have to do something about the Rocky Horror chocolate whatever

12:56Ben Mandelker: and he's like I don't care I just like want chocolate because it says on screen, like, he's been corrected several times. And he's like, what do I wear? And Chloe's like, Rocky Horror? Is that like a movie or something? Yeah, it's a movie. Ew, gross. I know, gross. I thought it was like a chocolate factory. Should we call mom? She's an icon. Yeah, call mom. So Meredith gets on. She's like, hello, how are you doing? I'm just here celebrating the fact that Seth and I are still married and it's not an indictment on anyone else on our cast, but we are sticking through it, and isn't it just a little bit of karma that the people who try to break us apart are going through their own troubles?

13:38Ben Mandelker: That's not directed at anyone specifically. I'm just pointing it out as a general thing that when you come after people, sometimes karma can bite you in the ass. Anyway, what were you saying, son?

13:50Ronnie Karam: Bruxing, could you hold on for just a second? Karma's calling on the other line, and I just want to see what they have to say. So he's like, have you ever heard of Rocky or whatever? She's like, picture show? Yes, Rocky. What even is that? All right, just look at 90 % of the outfits I've worn. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. And you'll say, right?

14:18Ben Mandelker: Okay, that's cool. Hold on a second. Georgia's calling. Should I add her, too? They're like, yes, of course. so george is like hi oh my god i'm all with meredith marks she's like welcome to the family chat uh you are now cordially invited to hold a part of a lemon while we slice it next time

14:37Ronnie Karam: you come to salt lake city george what are your opinions on bean salad oh my god like i love the brooks and george just tells us i love the brooks family like

14:53Ben Mandelker: Meredith is amazing. And then Seth Marks gives good pep talks. He's always posting things on Instagram story. And I'm screenshotting them because they've inspired me so much. I'm like a Seth Marks fan. And we see Seth doing one of his silly things. He's like, Hi, it's me, Seth Marks. I'm walking through the Chicago O 'Hare airport. And here's the thing. When life gives you a brioche d 'oré, don't be afraid to walk in and say, Hey, it's a delicious sandwich. Okay, have a great day, everyone.

15:25Ronnie Karam: Just remember, the sun cannot come into your life if you don't open your shades. Open your shades. Life is sunny.

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17:41Ronnie Karam: So they talk a little bit about the Rocky Horror Show. It's like crazy. and georgia's like you don't know what that is like it's like iconic did you watch great okay here's what i've noticed about georgia i don't know why it took me this so long this long i've always noticed georgia has kind of dead eyes you know like big black eyes but i never noticed that only her lower mouth moves her upper mouth doesn't move at all it's and i was trying to i was trying to do it because i watched the show but like when you watch the show only the lower heart of her her mouth moves and her upper lip always stays the exact same shape and never moves at all it's like a masquerade mask it's cool yeah it's kind of like i love her i hear down

18:25Ben Mandelker: i love georgia i think georgia continues to be the breakout star of the show she is she is such reality gold everything about her just amuses me left and right so i and i love here that her response to Brooks is not to go onto Wikipedia or use Google like any sane human would be. She's like, do you watch Glee? Because they did an episode that was like Rocky Horror Picture Show, so maybe you could just watch that episode. While they're getting ready for the party that's in 45 minutes, and he's like, I love how you think I've got hours to prepare. You just go sit down and watch an episode of Glee to get ready for this stupid thing.

19:06Ronnie Karam: So now they have another competing party going on, you guys. It's the Frick Ball. It's huge.

19:14Ben Mandelker: How'd the Frick get mixed up in this episode? It's so ridiculous.

19:18Ronnie Karam: The influencers are invited to the Frick. So, sorry if you couldn't score an invite, guys, but it's huge. And Amira's gonna have a whole night of Ubers, because, of course she was invited to the Frick Ball. Duh.

19:34Ben Mandelker: Duh. only the top movers and jakers go to the Frick. So Georgia is like, I really like Rowan, so I'm going to go to Brooklyn for her from the Upper East Side, which is a lot. And Rowan's like, yeah, we were supposed to go to the Frick. And then last minute, we were like, maybe let's just go to the House of Yes. And Shai says, wait, I wasn't supposed to go to the Frick. Were you invited to the Frick? I mean, I don't even know what the Frick is. That's crazy. What is the Frick? Like, what are people saying to Frick? Are you trying to say fuck because you're saying Frick? I don't understand things.

20:06Ben Mandelker: I'm shy. I don't even know what the flick is.

20:10Ronnie Karam: So everyone else is putting on makeup and getting ready to go. And Mira is saying, yeah, you know, Ariana has so much going on in her life right now. She started something with Liam. Then we see a flashback to the closet making with Liam and Ariana, guys. There's going to be a Disney movie made about it. It was like romance.

20:33Ben Mandelker: It's huge. Yeah. They're like, okay, let's do a Disney movie about what we, so he's like, he's kind of like a knight in shining armor. He's like almost like a Prince Charming and they're building a closet. Okay, I've got a name. My prince is in the closet. No, is that, why, why is everyone looking at me like that? That's not, that title doesn't land.

20:51Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I was kind of thinking this is such a straight storyline, like constructing a closet, you know, when gays are like, come on, let's get through this. Let me help you deconstruct your closet.

21:02Ben Mandelker: I know. such a gay friendly show why are you building a closet it's not right so Amira's like and by the way there's also like Hudson looming over all of this and we see you know the big thing is that Shai had told Hudson like by the way if you come to my party tomorrow you might see Ariana and Liam flirting so be prepared bro be prepared and Hudson's like what but I established boundaries

21:33Ronnie Karam: yeah and ariana notices well she tells us about hudson's instagram going crazy because she broke up with him and he went from just being this humble sweet guy to who posted bible bible verses to being like oh look at my ferrari look at all my money look at all my chains look at all my designer stuff you guys talk about chains talk about drama talk about ferraris talk about small so then shy say that you become your mother but they don't tell you that your ex-boyfriend becomes

22:07Ben Mandelker: your mother their mommy strikes again so uh so shy is like uh he's like yeah hudson sending instagram when he was dating ariana i mean it was like i love jesus i love jesus now it's kind of like cars cars cars partying cars a little bit of jesus a little bit of jesus and they're like yeah Yeah, there's still some Bible in there.

22:30Ronnie Karam: Yeah, Charlie says, I mean, it's my understanding that there is still Bible stuff on that Instagram.

22:39Ben Mandelker: I was too busy torturing an Italian, but I have been told that while I was zapping him with the ends of a lamp wire, that Hudson did, in fact, post a Bible verse.

22:55Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I was just getting this guy's pinky off with the cigar clipper. I read an Ephesians post. So that was fun. And then Ariana is talking to, is it Ariana or Ariana? I never pronounced this name right. I call Ariana from Vanderbilt Rules Ariana all the time. I don't. Oh, Ariana. It's Ariana. Clearly. Is it Ariana? I always call her Ariana from. I call her Ariana. I call her Ariana. Everyone else is like, you're always pronouncing her name wrong. It's Ariana.

23:29Ben Mandelker: Is Ariana mad at us? Like all these years. Sorry. I don't see. Yeah. All these years.

23:37Ronnie Karam: You assholes. Sorry for adding a little regality. To the plume. So they're talking. about Hudson and Ariana Ariana is like, I don't know who he's fucking, you know, but then there's this girl on his story and she's wearing his sweatshirt, but she's wearing my slippers. It's like, oh my God. She's like, yeah, I mean, I don't even care if you're fucking the girl, but you're disrespecting my slippers.

24:10Ben Mandelker: I mean, we saw what happened in Cinderella. Okay. Don't disrespect the slips. mirror goes oh my god like what the fuck she's like yeah i'm like i don't even know i don't even care if you're like fucking the girl but don't disrespect my belongings specifically the

24:27Ronnie Karam: slippers yeah so then um she's ariana is wearing like tight white skin you know like tights tights

24:37Ben Mandelker: type thing and she bends over and say am i on my period so then um shy is like uh back to present Shai is like, he's at the venue, by the way. He's like, so is everyone coming? Like, what's going on? Where is everyone? And Ariana telling us how like, today's been a lot. I wasn't expecting the Riley conversation to go in any way that it did. And on top of that, my friend Shai just pulled some bullshit. And earlier we see that Amira and Ariana are FaceTiming. And Ariana's like, I don't think that Hudson is coming tonight. Because I got a text from him saying that he left. But then Shai called me earlier and was like, I told him that Liam's been flirting with you.

25:12so Amir's like so maybe that's why he's not coming the mystery continues yeah and Ariana's

25:20Ronnie Karam: getting pissed because Shy used to be nice and he's supposed to be her friend and now he's like producer plant messy pants all over the place budding up to her boyfriend and trying to be friends with him she's like what the fuck and Shy she's getting pissed but then Shy's like yeah she was really cool about it like we talked on the phone like I mean I think she gets it it's like she appreciates what i did but i'm totally fine with the cast what do you guys why are you guys

25:44Ben Mandelker: asking me all these pointed questions yeah seriously so ariana's like i'm pissed i was honestly in shock you're supposed to be my friend motherfucker and you're you're going to betray my personal life my trust my everything i don't get it but not going to bring it up at the party with shy and rowan are throwing together because we can deal with this on our own time or alternatively i will literally bring it up at the party that they're throwing i'll do the exact opposite i'm to do one of two things. I'm either going to not bring it up at the party or I will bring it up at the party. I guess not to see America.

26:16Ronnie Karam: And cut to a Seth Marks video like, no one wins with confrontation ends. It's kind of rhymes if you think about it. And if you go through life and you're not even realizing that you're rhyming, that means you're leaving poetry as a little trail wherever you go.

26:37Ben Mandelker: So Bricks shows up at Rocky Horror at the house of Yes, and he's like, wait. He goes up to Shaw and goes, wait, am I the first one here? And Shaw's like, I'm here. Oh. Well, are you a big, like, Rocky Horror fan? He's like, yeah, I mean, I told my mom I was going this, and she was like, you're not in the know. I was like, you're right, I don't even know. Like, Rocky Horror? Is it, like, bad horror that's, like, very up and down? I'm like, I don't even know. Like, I don't even get it.

27:06Ronnie Karam: I'm sorry. Am I the first one here? No, I'm still here. Oh, right. Have you ever heard of Rocky Chocolates?

27:19Ben Mandelker: And so then when he says he's not in the know, Brooks goes, what are you not in the know of what? He goes, for the show. He's like, oh, tonight? He's like, yeah, tonight because we're watching the show. He's like, oh, it's in there? Yeah, it's a show we're watching. We're sitting down, we're watching a show. Oh, this is a musical? Like Brooks's brain is just not allowing him to process the fact that they will be watching the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

27:45Ronnie Karam: Yeah. It's like, I love musicals. I was in a musical when I was a kid. I was seven. Pirate Queen.

27:54Ben Mandelker: It was fun. I played a pirate who disengaged. It was great. They told me to walk the plank and I was like, ew. So then I went downstairs and sat on a barrel of rum.

28:07Ronnie Karam: It started off kind of bad because at the first rehearsal, my mom heard what the play was and she marched in and she said, how dare you label my son?

28:21Ben Mandelker: So Amira gets into her Uber up in Upper East Side. It's like, she's like, let me get the frick out of here. Someone had to make the joke somewhere. and Georgia is with her boyfriend Prez and they're just like talking about like what time are we going to go to bed like 10 o 'clock it's 10 o 'clock right now like whatever so and then Amira is telling Kevin like I'm going to get in the back of this van because I don't want you to sit next to that fucking cut fitness don't sit down

28:50Ronnie Karam: so she's like yeah it's Halloween like you know like you don't want to like have to sit next to people you don't like like it's scary enough without having to sit next to Georgia jaw i mean george is pretty scary am i right okay and then she changed she moves it into george it's like a germ you just can't avoid her you're gonna catch her eventually and sometimes it might make you sick and then you know other people will get it like you're like wear a mask but then you're like i don't want to i'm going to the frick forgot what i was talking about i'm very busy i've got a

29:20Ben Mandelker: lot of jobs yeah and so um she's like amira's upset because george's story is a bit inconsistent Is it Charlie or is it the Gay Grapevine that she found out about Amira complaining that Georgia was getting too close to Kevin? So then Liam and his buddies arrive at the venue. So it's Liam and Kendall and Jackson. And remember last week or so, I said, Kendall Jackson sounds like a wine. It is a wine. There is a wine named Kendall Jackson. Another thing that people, many people. Wait, we knew that already.

29:51Ronnie Karam: Didn't we know? Of course, Kendall Jackson's a wine. I didn't tell you Kendall Jackson's a wine. Maybe you did. That's expensive wine that you get at the store. Man, I'm really out of it. I'm so sorry. Didn't lead you on the Kendall Jackson path.

30:03Ben Mandelker: Well, here's another thing to add to it. One thing that we did not talk about, one thing that was not discussed at all, that several people DM'd me about, maybe they DM'd you too, is that Jackson of Kendall and Jackson, who we only saw fleetingly, he is the son of Spike Lee.

30:23Ronnie Karam: How about that? Yeah, I didn't put everything together either. Well, there you know. Just want to shout.

30:32Ben Mandelker: This is a real next-gen situation, right?

30:37Ronnie Karam: Who's Spike Lee?

30:42Ronnie Karam: Is that a musical?

30:45Ben Mandelker: Spike Lee? Is that like an adverb? I did something Spike Lee? What does that mean? I don't get it.

30:53Ronnie Karam: so Liam gets to the venue everybody's saying hi he's like hey hey yeah it's me I'm an actor so yeah just look on your list you're gonna see actor and that's me alright thanks

31:08Ben Mandelker: yeah thanks hey guys Alan sorry sometimes I just say Alan short for Alan Wrench just reminds me that I know how to do hardware so yeah put together an Ikea closet the other day I'm an actor but I'm also a closet maker and I volunteer at the firefighters union of Lake George where I put out fires made by poorly constructed closets. Just a, it's just what I do. A lot of facets. Motorcycle. Yeah.

31:35Ronnie Karam: House of yes, deep in Brooklyn. Like we couldn't find somewhere in Manhattan. Man, come on. Like, I mean, it was like 20 minutes to Williamsburg Dumbo. Okay. Like house of yes is not in Williamsburg or Dumbo. So it's like the fuck you part of Brooklyn. It's not the cool millionaires have taken over and gentrified it part.

31:53Ben Mandelker: Okay. Seriously. Oh, wait, hold on a second. I think I'm getting a call from Soderbergh. Hold on. Oh, wait, it's just spam likely. I saw the S and I just immediately assumed. Okay. So we're here, guys. We're here. Actor is here. And then meanwhile, Amira and Georgia are horrified because they're really deep into Brooklyn. Like this is really far. And Georgia says, I don't go into Brooklyn unless I invoice honestly. Like next time I'm invoicing. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

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34:02Ben Mandelker: Now, Georgia, where were you going to build Club Club? your brutalist bowling alley do you think that was gonna be a Manhattan club that's a deep in Brooklyn club that's a Brooklyn club for sure also the house of yes is another missed thing

34:19Ronnie Karam: from these guys on this show because that's a great movie with Parker Posey so check it out it's like a great class from that time great class I thought so um oh sorry go ahead no I'm

34:33Ben Mandelker: I'm just going to make a bad pun. It's not worth it. It's not worth it. You can move forward. I'm telling you right now.

34:40Ronnie Karam: So this Rocky Horror Show is not the Rocky Horror Show. It's just a Rocky Horror-themed show, and it is a very Brooklyn show. This is very— You know that it's Brooklyn.

34:55Ben Mandelker: It's themed? I thought they were doing the show. i don't think so because it starts with a big um doesn't start with a big logo of the map like

35:08Ronnie Karam: someone a puppet it's like a giant human puppet of the mouth with the tongue coming out and licking the stage i don't think it's the show i think it's a like themed night based on the show but i don't know maybe because they didn't play the music from it yeah i don't know there was

35:22Ben Mandelker: definitely they definitely put up something on the screen to be like this music that you're hearing is not Rocky Horror Picture Show, but I thought that was because they don't have the rights to play the Rocky Horror music. But there was the lips thing. But I don't know. I've actually never seen the stage show. I have. Maybe that was part of it and I just forgot it.

35:39Ronnie Karam: I don't know. I just assumed it was kind of a Rocky Horror themed thing. I don't know.

35:44Ben Mandelker: What the fuck do I do? I think we should have a representative from the House of Yes. But the thing is this, they can't refute you. They're like, well, Ronnie is wrong, but unfortunately we're the House of Yes, so we just have to be like, yes. That's right.

35:56Ronnie Karam: Parker Posey can come out as the representative from House of Yes because she was in that movie. She can be like, you don't even gotta just click.

36:07Ben Mandelker: Oh, God bless. So yeah, the show is happening and it's a lot of are they there yet? Are they there yet? Have they arrived yet? When are they going to get here? Have they arrived? Who's here? Who's not here? What's happening? Brooks goes, I love how random this is wow and shy tells us um the rocky horror picture show is like a cult classic it's like a it's like very audience interactive i was like yeah thanks thanks for the uh thanks for the rundown there shy i was it was not i was not well aware your show that is like playing to all

36:42Ronnie Karam: like 30 and 40 year olds you know so charlene hudson are talking about whether or not hudson's coming and it turns out he had the 9 30 flight out of there and shy's like um i have this whole conversation with hudson where i tattletailed on his girlfriend for dating like like maybe dating the new guy and like then he treats me like this he doesn't even like text me before he gets on his private chat don't that's what it's your fault shy you shouldn't have done it in the first place

37:10Ben Mandelker: and now you learn the hard way you now you see where you stand on the totem pole rich people

37:15Ronnie Karam: don't text their lackeys to say goodbye. They don't. So be less ready to be used by rich assholes.

37:25Ben Mandelker: Until you have your chicken dynasty, you will not be getting a text back.

37:30Ronnie Karam: Until your parents find extreme success in fried somethings, watch your goddamn mouth.

37:40Ben Mandelker: I like Gia arriving with some girls and she's like she's like I really really am like rocking this Rocky Horror theme I'm so Rocky Horror right now Gia just looks like Gia she's like I'm so Rocky Horror or as I call it Louis standing on gravel get it so Ariana is like yeah you look hot as fuck you look great so do you so then Shai is like sitting with Liam and he's like hey how was your date with ariana he's like uh what the fuck are you talking about it's like your closet building date and charlie goes oh yeah by the way full disclosure you've been aired out while uh while we were playing pool recently and uh you know liam's trying to fuck ariana that's what we were saying

38:28Ronnie Karam: just so you know like whoa whoa whoa wouldn't take it like that take it easy i'm just getting to know her i mean if i were you guys i would say famous actor uh also knows how to build closets and Ariana was there. So you're welcome. Do you have a pen? I'll sign your shirt.

38:49Ben Mandelker: Charlie's like, well, unfortunately, Sharpie doesn't really work on this bulletproof vest that I'm wearing for no good reason. But devil's advocate, because Charlie's dressed so, he looks so ridiculous this entire episode. He's in this like vest. It's just the craziest look. And so he's like, devil's advocate, bro. You know, like Hudson's our boy. Okay. Because he's rich. And like somebody fucking, like his ex-girlfriend like that's not kosher so to speak what is are you in dick tracy all of a sudden like hey don't you be sleeping with our boy's girlfriend it's not kosher we're gonna have

39:26Ronnie Karam: to let flathead know you gotta know what neighborhood you're in before you try pulling that shit all right just a heads up because this shit ain't kosher got me it's joe ellen's husband yeah um so then um liam's like i'm but i'm not i'm not fucking or what are you guys talking about and he's like yeah but uh you might right like that's that's the goal right i mean who builds closets for ugly people that don't want to fuck nobody okay ugly people are not getting free

39:58Ben Mandelker: closet work done no they're not they are not so liam says um i think there's bro code and then i I think there's like actor's code and I'm not sure they understand that last one, but there's also like trying to get rid of competition or trying to intimidate the new guy, but you can't intimidate me. I look sort of like a Culkin and I'm friends with a famous person's son. So I think, I think I rest my case. You cannot scare Stella Adler, babe.

40:29Ronnie Karam: Okay. Try it again. You can't do this to Stella's in our town. Oh, my God, our town. I can't. Please don't ever make me sit through that show again, anybody. That's just a general note to the world. So, Shai's like, oh, do you see our perspective on that? Like, he's really rich, and you're not really rich. Like, you can't do that. And Liam's like, okay, get where you're coming from. Okay, but where I'm coming from is Law & Order. So, okay, I just want to get to know you guys kind of while there's camera heroes. and that's all I want to say about it. Hope we can put it to bed. Okay. And Ariana's like, um, what are you guys talking about over here?

41:12Ronnie Karam: Is it me?

41:14Ben Mandelker: And, uh, Liam's like, well, Charlie and Shy press me about Hudson a little bit. And Ariana's like, why? It's like, well, you know, they were just saying like, you know, he's our boy. And I'm like, all right, you know, who's my boy? Any male in Mariska Hargitay's life? Cause I was on law and order once. So I was like, what, What else is new, right?

41:36Ronnie Karam: It's like, what do you mean they're boys? They've been boys for like two weeks since we started filming. Now they're boys, I'm sure. Okay? So she's pissed. And she's like, oh, my God, we haven't even got on a date yet. What is everybody acting like this for? So now she's really getting pissed off at Liam.

41:54Ben Mandelker: Yeah. She's like, she's mad. And Gia's like, Gia comes over and she's like, so I want to know. I don't know. She doesn't come over. she's actually just trying to understand like many people on this cast she's still trying to understand the concept of rocky horror so she's like i want to know who rocky is which one is rocky and shy is like uh i think it's that guy in the black oh but that's not rocky balboa it's like no it's not rocky balboa and um he's like yeah uh this hey look they're like having like an orgy

42:31Ronnie Karam: or something that's what we did at boys night and she goes what he says uh sorry bad joke she's like you know something about shy just rubs me the wrong way like he's never done anything to me but like he's telling my girl ariana's personal business like what the fuck like ariana's been the one to tell me to give shy a chance spoke too soon babe making jokes about orgies on the stage

42:59Ben Mandelker: and saying it was like boys night uh-uh so um then they the that now they now they go their after party so they go from the house of yes to the house of after party wherever they go and now this is where georgia and ava arrive and georgia is wearing a pigeon mask of course she chooses the dirtiest bird in new york city and she's like i love my costume i just can't see a thing that's a thing you know pigeons are not known for their eyesight and then they start showing all these clips of pigeon experts um like it's like oh look this is funny it's like contradicting all this funny all the pigeon facts that george is saying

43:44Ronnie Karam: but it is funny that george addresses like the dirty rat bird of new york yeah when her reputation is like she doesn't wash her hands that she dresses like this dirty poop bird of new york um by the way i had to look up this show because it's been making me crazy is it rocky horror is it not rocky horror is it a rocky horror theme it's in my head right now and i had to correct it so i came to search it here on google look at me i'm already too much for this cast I'll tell you that. It says, A House of Yes in Brooklyn, the beloved cult classic, gets a wild immersive makeover with Elle Lips, Rocky Horror Live.

44:25Ronnie Karam: The highly theatrical event features aerial acrobatics, circus performances, burlesque, and live shout-alongs. So, sounds like it's not the actual show, right? Yeah, it's like an experience based on the show. I know that you guys were dying to know, So you're welcome.

44:47Ben Mandelker: Well, let me tell you something else. She's a pigeon. And look, I have a book called Pigeons. And it's the fascinating saga of the world's most revered and reviled bird. Pigeons. You do?

45:01Ronnie Karam: Is it about how to cook them and turn them into a... What do you have a pigeon book for? Well, I went to Powell's books.

45:09Ben Mandelker: You know what's actually hilarious? It's when we went to Powell's books. Like seven years ago, eight years ago. And I saw it there and I was like, huh, this seems like a fun thing. It'd be fun to learn about pigeons because, you know, I actually do love a pigeon. I just think that they're gross. They're gross, but I love them if that makes sense. Like I don't like how they shit everywhere. I wouldn't want to touch them, but I do enjoy their vibe. I like that they're city birds. I don't know. I enjoy a pigeon in a weird way. And I just like I want to learn about pigeons. And then I got the book and I promptly never read it.

45:41Ben Mandelker: But here's a description. They have been worshipped as fertility goddesses and revered as symbols of peace. Domesticated since the dawn of man, they have been crucial to wartime communications for every major historical superpower from ancient Egypt to the United States and are credited with saving thousands of lives. One delivered the results of the first Olympics in 776 BC, and another brought the news of Napoleon's defeat at Waterloo more than 2 ,500 years later. so I don't get that but anyway the point is this is a book that's going to tell us all about pigeons and Georgia should read it and then she would understand a little bit more about her Halloween costume

46:27Ronnie Karam: pigeons have been like the center of communication for like centuries pigeons were basically the TikTok

46:34Ben Mandelker: at that time pigeons were it just took a really long time to upload your story

46:42Ronnie Karam: there are like so many pigeons who have repeated the elbow dancing of famous queens throughout

46:50Ben Mandelker: history oh they're yet the pigeon is reviled today as a rat with wings how did we come to one of mankind's most steadfast companions yeah i know people are gonna rag on me for for calling

47:03Ronnie Karam: them the poop bird of new york but you know when you live in new york they're known as like the flying rat. I mean, they are. You know, that's it. It's not like pigeons aren't great. I mean, what are you going to do? I'm just saying it's funny that in New York, they're a New York staple. Obviously, they're everywhere, but it's just funny that she dressed like the bird that everyone's like, ew, it's dirty. It's a poop bird. It's a rat.

47:24Ben Mandelker: It is a poop bird. Let's be honest. The pigeon does many wonderful and interesting things, but it is ultimately. It's not almost even its fault. It's just that it chose to live in New York City and in all cities, and And so it's just around all the garbage and just collects it. But if it were in a – if it moved out to the countryside, it would be a beautiful little bird. It does live in the countryside as well.

47:47Ronnie Karam: What do you think of that?

47:48Ben Mandelker: They're basically doves, right?

47:51Ronnie Karam: Right? I don't know. I don't have a pigeon book. I'm sorry. This is – What the fuck? How would I know? I didn't buy that book at that bookstore. I'll read the pigeon book. You know what I said at that bookstore? I have a Kindle. I was taking pictures of stuff that I wanted to read on my Kindle, which is fucking terrible. Actually, I do buy a lot of books, but I make sure I have – if there are books I have on my Kindle, I try to find them at the used bookstore so I could have them. So you can't just put a Kindle on your shelf, on your bookshelf, and be like, look, here's all the books I read. Scroll through.

48:19Ronnie Karam: Scroll through. Okay, keep scrolling. So anyway, trying to dress like a pigeon. I'll read about the pigeons after I'm done reading Strangers. Okay. I'll report back. Pigeons are Strangers. Don't wrap your mind around that one Wow What a day Okay, penguin So Georgia, pigeon So Liam's like, is it a penguin? It's like, come on, you're from New York It's a fucking pigeon So she keeps telling us pigeon facts That aren't true She's like, you know what? Fun fact that The weird colored pigeons Don't touch the New York pigeons Is that what she's saying? She said they're great but don't touch the ones that have weird colors.

49:00Ronnie Karam: Oh, oh, oh, I see. Don't touch the ones that have colors. And we find out that birds are very little danger. And this is like a pigeon expert that they got from social media or something. It's a clip. She's like, birds are very little danger to her. It's always wise to wash your hands afterwards, generally, right? I mean, it's wise to wash your hands after doing most things in New York City. Am I right? Internet. It's like, how did they find this little clip? I mean, this, This crew is so good on New York City.

49:30Ben Mandelker: They really are amazing. And also, that was not a real woman. That was six pigeons standing on each other's shoulders in a trench coat with a little wig on, being like, pigeons are no danger. The original video is just like, you feed the bread.

49:47Ronnie Karam: Yeah.

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