#3493 Crappy Hour 8/10/26: RHOBH Exit, RHOSLC Entrance, and Shannon Might Be a Monster

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1:28Ronnie Karam: Well, hello, and welcome to Crappy Hour. I'm Ronnie. That's Ben over there. Hello, Benoons. Hi, Ronnie. How are you? Good. How's everything going over there with you? You know, it's Monday.

1:45Ben Mandelker: It's time for crappy hour.

1:51Ben Mandelker: I'm excited to talk about the various things we'll talk about. I'm excited for what the world of Bravo commentary has in store for us for the next hour or so. So what about you?

2:04Ronnie Karam: Same. I want to thank everybody for reaching out about my mom. People online started an ALS donation thread. You guys have been so sweet. I'm not going to talk about it really beyond saying that, but I love you, mom. And I don't want to blub like an idiot on here, but I just wanted to say thank you. It is bizarre. It is bizarre. you know it's bizarre but also such a great thing to be able to come to watch what crap happens every day and laugh with you even when the world is falling down both in the real world and personal lives you know to be able to come here and just laugh with you so nice man so i love you and thanks for being such a good friend and thanks to everybody online

2:49Ben Mandelker: for being so sweet yeah love you too uh your mom was an icon and she was wonderful and we obviously are all here for you and your family. And, you know, we've gotten so many messages over the years about how, like, we're just sitting here blabbing about Bravo, the stupidity of this network, and how it's helped a lot of people through tough times. And I think now it's time for all of us to help you through tough times. Well, this helps us through tough times,

3:22Ronnie Karam: just being able to come here and laugh every day. You know, Friday was when she passed away, and I was over there and it was in the morning and I was over there in the morning, obviously, and then friends were coming in and, you know, it's a whole thing. We all know what it's like when people pass. I mean, especially in my family, you're all over there, you know, and about three hours into it, I was like, I can go record Orange County. Like I can get out of here. Right. And just go laugh about, and I texted you. I was like, I can still record. you're like take a minute for christ's sake but i was like it is yeah great to have this option

3:58Ben Mandelker: you know to just come laugh and pretend everything's okay so let's do that okay well uh the good news is that bravo gossip is reliably not depressing so you should probably be in a great space you're in safe safe hands right now as you mourn um uh let's see what let's see what you've got on the list here. You compiled a wonderful document this week of stories. I see the top here. The top item that you have here, House of Stassi, people have been asking us over and over and over again if we're covering it, if we've watched it. I will say I have not watched it. I don't think we're planning to cover it either, even though Taylor Strecker is a friend of ours and she's a full-on cast member.

4:44So the answer to that question on my end is haven't watched.

4:49Ben Mandelker: I may try to watch it, but I've got to catch up on Big Brother, and I'm two weeks behind on Big Brother. So that's my priority right now.

4:55Ronnie Karam: I will eventually watch it. I didn't watch it right away because the whole season comes out at once, and I just want to be able to watch it. We've got so much to watch for this anyway that – no, I have not watched it. We went to the Halloween party. Was that the season finale? I don't know because I haven't watched it.

5:11Ben Mandelker: I don't think so. No, because they filmed until December. and so we were yeah we were at an event that was filmed for the show um and obviously we did not make it in because no one has said anything like oh my god we saw you guys thank god that was one of my biggest fears is that we were going to be in that because we're not obviously not on the show

5:30Ronnie Karam: we're just like extras and we went taylor invited us so we went and we talked to katie a little bit which was crazy katie maloney who was really really nice and you know has listened to the show and knows exactly who she's talking to and she was really cool and um you just get comfortable and then before you know it we're just sitting there talking shit in a corner with taylor and i was like oh shit she's mic'd you know we're extras but she's on the show so i really was hoping that that wouldn't come out and catch us in the ass. And it didn't so far. Not yet. But it's already all out, right?

6:11Ben Mandelker: I think so. But watch them be like, the lost footage episode! And like, here we are. Like,

6:20Ben Mandelker: we'll see. But I, you know, I really enjoy Taylor, so I want to support for her. But I just haven't had time. And I spent I spent like several hours this weekend catching up on my big brother, but I'm still two weeks behind. So I want to like, that's actually been weighing on me and it's been a really good season of big brother so far. I feel really good about coming back to it. I actually sent you a clip. I was like, Ronnie, please watch the first five minutes of episode seven or whichever it was. Cause there was something so ludicrous that was happening on big brother that I was like this, this dark moment in your life i think you need this and i did it i did it right when you sent

7:03Ronnie Karam: me the text and i haven't watched it at all this season i haven't watched even a minute of it and i pulled it up the episode you told me and i watched the first nine minutes because the previews yeah are so long too and i didn't know what was going on on the show god damn it really when people say every year oh big brother is finally good again i think it's true this time i did stop after the nine minutes because i didn't know what the hell was going on and i was like oh god i'm too new to hate so many people so quickly but oh that guy what's his name rodeo or something rome rome when he's like a snarky bitch um oh it's the roman empire oh what does he think this is his empire it's like typical big brother one-liner writing but god it was so good angela dressed like a giant egg and telling off the drag queen for it was pretending to care about her when he was just rolling his eyes at the camera it's so good it was really funny yeah it was hilarious and you

8:04Ben Mandelker: know she was like i'm mad at you i'm mad at you because i really cared about you but i'm mad about you but i liked you why would you do that to me because i like you so much i was dying um anyway no spoilers everyone because i'm still two weeks behind uh but why don't we why don't we move on to some uh onto some bravo bravo goss what one what do you want to start with well i was looking over

8:30Ronnie Karam: comments here on youtube people were asking if we have any tea on the new slc lady um um so there's that why ashley she looks kind of like ashley i in the pictures on instagram here should i show you should i show that she looks you know she looks like that lady we saw remember that the lady we saw perform ella langley la langley the biggest artist in decades

9:03Ben Mandelker: the biggest artist in the world uh who stole mariah all i want is a porch with whiskey i'm choosing texas um ashley is choosing utah she's new to the group and a friend of lisa and whitney it's ashley kwai uh a utah native entrepreneur motorcycle enthusiast and former makeup artist you would you don't say you don't say um better known as kwai um i wonder why she's known that as that she quickly realizes how fast rumors travel when an anecdote about her husband becomes fodder for the ladies um ashley kwai uh so when is she gonna get divorced i'm gonna say next season i don't think that i'm just gonna say it right now it's just not not whatever's going

9:53Ronnie Karam: Well, I think she looks just like Ashley I from Rhode Island and Bachelor fame in the first picture we're seeing here. But then the video that Bravo posted today, to me, she looks exactly like Tamara Judge, but with dark hair. Exactly like her. So, I don't know. She's got a little bit Carmella in her. Mm-hmm. And Ashley from Rhode Island. Let's see. I'm going to scroll down a little bit. Let's see what she posts. oh she does have an Ashley from Rhode Island and look Ashley from Rhode Island doesn't look like Ashley from Rhode Island in the picture of her but Ashley Kwai does look like

10:30Ben Mandelker: her so guys I don't know do you think it's pronounced Kwai because isn't like isn't that also like isn't that do you think her name is Key because you know in British that's how you pronounce it Ashley Key

10:45Ronnie Karam: K-I-K-W-A K-W-A-Y You never know because it's Bravo, and so you never know how someone's going to want to pronounce it. We'll do it correctly when we're told. That's for sure. But I hope it's quiet just because, you know, someone will be like, oh, really? Maybe you should have an at at the end of your name or like something really cheesy. Like reality TV loves to do.

11:07Ben Mandelker: The Roman Empire. She looks sort of like AI generated, to be honest. She's like, I mean, it's literally in her name. Wait, don't tell anyone that she's AI. Add a QU first.

11:20Ronnie Karam: Quiet about that.

11:21Ben Mandelker: Yeah.

11:22Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I mean, I think that's the goal at this point to just look like a computer made you. I mean, I'm I'm down. What are I? Well, I'm spilling the sea. I'm trying to see what she's about. It's hard to tell from her Instagram. Rory obsessed. So she must be friends with Ashley, right? She's got a lot of Real Housewives of Rhode Island stuff. Yeah.

11:48Ben Mandelker: Well, hopefully she's She's going to have big shoes to fill You know Melly Melly Workman It's going to be a lot, you know, as a new cast member But hopefully she can make Was that last season? That was two seasons ago That was two seasons ago Although I think she's a full on Cast member

12:14Ronnie Karam: I think so, sorry for the pause I was drinking a gallon of water. So that's her. Basically, to answer your question, we don't know anything about her. I didn't even watch the video, but I had it playing on Instagram on silent. You know, I didn't press the unmute button. And I was just looking at her like, no one can convince me that's not Tamara.

12:32Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I feel that way about so many things. Usually when I go to the farmer's market, I'm like, that's not Tamara. They're like, sir, that's a cauliflower. I'm pretty sure that's Tamara. Cauliflower.

12:47Ronnie Karam: another thing people were bringing up in the comments were I asked you and you told me I'll bring it up on people magazine Vicky Gunvalson reveals why daughter Brianna refused Andy Cohen's offer to appear on OC lose my number she said wow it's so dramatic I can't imagine Brianna

13:08Ben Mandelker: saying that to Andy Cohen can you I mean I know that she's like she lives in the household of Ryan Culberson and she's probably now like it's a lib calling send the kids to the bomb shelter you know but I even I think it's like a dial up phone

13:24Ronnie Karam: otherwise you could just press block or mute or whatever but I think that you once you have Brianna's landline because you know they still have one she's only eating chicken livers and feeding her kids raw livers and shit you know they're on a landline well Andy is now

13:38Ben Mandelker: yeah they are definitely Andy says it was a lie and but But, you know, obviously, like, Brianna's, like, not even talking to Michael. So something weird is going on there in that neck of the woods.

13:49Ronnie Karam: It's not weird. Her husband sucks. That guy's an asshole. And it says here, she says, lose my number. And then under that it says, what the show did to their family was not good, said Vicky Gumbelson. You know, what Ryan did wasn't good. That guy's an asshole.

14:05Ben Mandelker: The show literally did nothing to that family. What did the show do? The show showcased Ryan being an asshole multiple times, and it's not just the yelling at Lydia's mom. Just generally, just being a love-bombing narcissist who got Brianna into this relationship, eloped with her, and then went off and now goes and hunts deer and feeds it to his family. Yeah. Maybe a little bit wrong on that last point.

14:37Ronnie Karam: I'm glad that they're not going to come on just because I don't want to see that guy on TV. But I could also do with them taking Vicky out. I don't need Vicky on two shows a week. I'm going to say it in every show that we have to cover with Vicky this week, which is a lot. No. Yeah.

14:53Ben Mandelker: I say that. I think Vicky is not quite working out so far. But it's the curse. OC has had a curse over the past few years. they do a nostalgia play and it's like a one and done season right we have alexia we have gretchen maybe vicky i think there was someone before then too i just can't remember who it was alexis bolino i'm sorry did i say alexia i meant alexis bolino yeah you say alexia and i always

15:25Ronnie Karam: go to what you know like a blink blink blink in spanish blink in spanish my hot take is that i I actually don't think every year is away from the past. I know.

15:35Ben Mandelker: And my hot take is that I actually don't think that Alexis Bellino should have been fired. I think she should have come back. I thought she was a really good villain. And it was something that the show really benefited from. And I think that was a mistake to fire her. I'm sure that Shannon probably did some sort of line in the sand thing. But I still think they should have kept her.

15:55Ronnie Karam: Yeah, Alexis was so much fun the first time, you know, being such a dingbat. This time wasn't as fun with the whole, like, getting John Jansen and then trying to shove it down Shannon's face. I don't know. It was kind of gross to me. I'm not a huge hater of Alexis, though, because I appreciate the history of what Alexis brought to that show. Vicky, not so much. Vicky, just bye. And her whole thing on the girls' trip of, you're only here because of me. You're only here because of me. I started this. It was like giving birth. Oh, well. I want to visit you as much as your son does. Okay? Get off my TV.

16:30Ben Mandelker: hmm yeah um everyone's saying boo john jansen sucks uh yeah absolutely a hundred percent he sucks but you know like i think there is a role it's it's good to have these people that we root against otherwise you wind up with this sort of like flaccid state of affairs cue this season of orange county where nothing is really going on i mean part of the problem too is They just have kept Gina and Emily like their expiration dates are long, long. They long, long since the past. And so it's just stagnating. And Carmela, Carmela, I guess is fine. I like the way she stood up for herself this past week.

17:08Ben Mandelker: But like, yeah, this is. Yeah, it's bad news over in Orange County these days. Yeah, it really is.

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19:34Ben Mandelker: what do you want to talk about next how about this one an article that I saw that I really this one actually this is what we should bring up is that Amanda Francis has left Real Housewives of Beverly Hills you guys I just had to leave so she says my time on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills is complete saying yes to this show is one of the boldest wildest most clarifying things I've ever done. And I'm genuinely grateful. I say that as someone who earns a lot of money and definitely more than my husband. I'm grateful for the experience, the women, the ceremonial matcha, the viewers who saw me, rooted for me, challenged me, quoted me, misunderstood me, were not as wealthy as me, defended me, threw$5 ,000 at my workshops.

20:26Ben Mandelker: All those people. I'm just so grateful for them all.

20:30Ronnie Karam: And you're not even halfway through the first page. This just goes and goes. It was a ministry, honestly. But I came into this experience with an already full life. And right now that life is asking for all of me. Oh, my God. I'm asking for all of you to shut up. Now that said, our friend Amanda, who's not a Francis, Amanda not Francis, sent me this video of Amanda singing in her car at people about money. Okay, I'm going to play it for you. Okay. Let me turn this all the way up. Money comes and money goes and money flies and money flows and money is money if I want you to get some money.

21:20Ben Mandelker: um there is a that it's i'm sorry to see her go because i thought she was funny to make fun of but uh yeah i just don't think i don't think she had it she didn't have enough to to go for more than one season i thought maybe she'd get a second one because she has a wedding coming up but yeah

21:37Ronnie Karam: okay let me let me she does a lot of dash talking you know she says i'm married i'm marrying the love of my life, making sure women, they can have it fucking all, blah, blah, blah. And while this show gave me an incredible platform, dash, next line, a platform is not the same thing as a foundation.

21:57Ben Mandelker: Did I tell you, by the way, that I'm going to play this. It's going to come in the middle of the song. Here we go.

22:03Ronnie Karam: Worthy and many fucking flows to you right now. I believe it. I know it. Do you believe it? Do you know it?

22:27Ronnie Karam: I love the music. I love the music. I love the music. I love the music. I love the music.

22:29Ben Mandelker: I love the music. Wow. Also, you know what I feel so bad about is that for her husband, like this is her singing voice you know that she's like did i ever tell you you're my hero did i ever tell you you're my friend i could fly higher than eagle because you're the wind beneath my wings i'm like there's not even a note in that in that song that she did and that's the way she sings everything

23:02Ronnie Karam: oh gosh well on august 18th i'm releasing holy fuck a teaching memoir about god desire money personal power freedom and becoming the woman you came here to be god bless it um by the way

23:19Ben Mandelker: someone says oh my god where did ben go i'm here i'm here um did i tell you by the way that i saw kelly did i tell you that um no tell us it's not much of a story but you know i i have deduced that i live very close to bo's and i was at the supermarket and i was walking out of the supermarket and I saw a tall, a tall, a tall strapping man coming, walking across the parking lot to enter the supermarket. And then I was like, Oh, that person looks familiar. And then as he got closer, I was like, wait a second, that's Kelly. And, um, I had to say he was really hot in person. And so all the questions about like, why is Bose with this guy?

24:01Ben Mandelker: Why, what's the deal with it? I I was like, I kind of get it now. I was like, I kind of get it. He was a good-looking man in real life. Yeah, that's my story. Achilles endorsement. Achilles physical endorsement.

24:18Ronnie Karam: Yeah, a good Achilles coming out of Sprouts Hollywood or whatever. This is Miss Mallory, Nicole says in the comments, that song sounds like they'd create it in Nixon. How do you pronounce that? Nivixum? NXIVM? We watch that documentary. NXIVM, that's right. NXIVM. Sounds like a type of song. Keith Wernier.

24:39Ben Mandelker: Yeah, seriously.

24:44Ben Mandelker: So, yeah. So, RIP Amanda Francis, we wish you could have stayed longer, but alas, no more.

24:51Ronnie Karam: You may not have had multiple years on the show, but it would take multiple years to read this entire Instagram post. So, I wish you the best, you know. Amanda was obnoxious, but she wasn't a really hateable housewife, right? Like, she wasn't a really hateable cast member. It's just like, just go away.

25:13Ben Mandelker: She flirted with it. She flirted with being hateable, but she didn't quite cross that line. She just sort of wound up being more annoying, but amusing, which is actually a pretty good space to be in, I think. Yeah.

25:26Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I'd like to think so. So exclusive Real Housewives of Atlanta star Portia Williams scores big in her divorce battle. So she got the house in the divorce. She got the house. There we go. Yeah. And we still have to pay for it. It's not like it's paid for, unfortunately. But she got it. You know, she's been paying for that house monthly. They're arguing about it on Atlanta now. They're like, why are you paying Simon's bills? And it's her bills. Damn it. she's going to get the profit off of that house so good for portia yeah 1.5 million i can't believe

26:03Ben Mandelker: by the way i'm i'm i wonder if that house is is it at 1.5 million or she's just already spent 1.5 million on paying for the house that's probably what it is i was like that house looks like it's more than 1.5 million even for atlanta standards yeah i would think that's huge but um what's her buttons angela said that her house is two two plus million and they have a huge mansion too so i

26:27Ronnie Karam: I don't know. Is real estate just that cheap in Atlanta? It's pretty cheap in Atlanta. It's such a big, bustling city.

26:34Ben Mandelker: I know, but they've got so much space. I mean, look, Toya, she winds up in these mansions all the time. Yeah, right here she moves.

26:43Ronnie Karam: Okay, what else here? Southern Charms star Craig Conover is going to be in the indie dramedy Caroline Fletcher. So Craig's in a movie.

26:56Ben Mandelker: wow and who said who said that cinema was dead so um schitt's creek star chris elliott and the marvelous miss mazel actress caroline aaron will also appear in the future from ellen van der wyden uh ellen van der wyden two there's a lot of why's in that name that i wouldn't expect um so caroline aaron i think she does she always she's always plays like an older mom right I think I love her. Hold on. Carolyn. I think she's one of my favorite character actresses, which vindicates this project a little bit. Yeah. Oh, God, I love her. I love her when she's in movies. I don't know why Craig is in this movie, though.

27:41I know.

27:41Ronnie Karam: I'm reading the article trying to figure out who Craig is going to be in it. It follows an 11-year-old girl who's learned how to survive a working-class upbringing in crime. The only way she knows how, by conning her way through it. Conning her way through it.

27:57Ben Mandelker: I think when you have Chris Elliott as your headliner, I mean, you know this is already like direct to Sundance. Am I right?

28:09Ben Mandelker: Katrina Bowden is in it. Why does she sound familiar? I'm licking her up. Oh, my gosh. Oh, she was on Glee, right? No, no, she was Sari on 30 Rock. Okay, so the star power just continues to grow.

28:25Ronnie Karam: Something that's been making me crazy is the mistress from Real Housewives of Rhode Island continues to make the publicity rounds. Let's see. Brian's ex, Brian Pontarelli's ex, Beth Walker, explains why she's speaking out now and insists there's no NDA about their relationship. No NDA about their relationship. Okay. Exclusive Insider confirms If Brian Pontarelli's alleged mistress Beth Walker will appear on Rory Season 2 And reveals what really happened During Season 1 polo match Who's Insider?

29:05Ben Mandelker: It's probably her It's Joe Allen I have it on good Good information That the whore is coming on To tell Rula What the slut of her husband in this opta. That's what's going to happen. It's Liz.

29:23Ronnie Karam: All right, you know, because they renegotiated their contract, and there were six bullet points, and they were all about her. You didn't hear from me.

29:36Ben Mandelker: You know, I think I'm going to be able to go to Pizza Mama next month. I think, believe it or not, I'm going to wind up in Rhode Island for a hot second. So, I think I'm really excited that I'm going to have a little Pizza Mama pilgrimage. Oh, wow. Yeah.

29:53Ronnie Karam: I'm flying to Providence. You just happen to be in Rhode Island. Well, you know what? It's been called for a wedding because you wanted to go there when we were visiting New York together, but it turned out to be too far.

30:05Ben Mandelker: We were too busy. But at that point, it was like, well, maybe I can make my way up to Rhode Island. But this time I'm actually flying into Providence, Rhode Island, which means I am going to be physically in Rhode Island. And so there's just no way to be that close to Pizza Mama and not going to Pizza Mama. So fingers crossed on that front. I might even try a pizza chip. We'll see. Someone says, Mike Bowman says, you're not going to the seawall? Well, we'll see. I don't know. A lot of ongoing with that situation.

30:45Ben Mandelker: here's something i would like to talk about uh i love i love a good list uh there's been like like i i don't know like i think a list i can't get enough of them ever since i was a kid listening to casey casem telling us to keep our feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars on America's next top 40 or America's top 40. I just, I love a list. I love a list the way that Alicia loves a cracker and the Hollywood reporter came out with a list of the 20 most unforgettable real housewives moments ranked in honor of this girl's trip. And I thought like, it might be fun to just sort of breeze through this and see, um, how, like how we feel about this list.

31:30Ben Mandelker: Um, did they get it right? Are there any emissions, things like that? you feel like going through the lists sure okay um so they gave an honorable mention to leah mcsweeney's run because they felt like it uh shaped bravo because of her whole disaster everything uh number 20 lisa hawks already now what no leah mcsweeney is gonna be on your list of tops i know

31:56Ronnie Karam: this is unforgettable right is that the list it's like unforgettable things okay it's unforgettable You can't have a best of list and add Leah McSweeney.

32:05Ben Mandelker: Well, I think you could say the Hollywood reporter list. I think the scene with her getting drunk and throwing tiki's, that was an unforgettable moment. So I think like making an honorary mention, like I'm not upset about that. I wouldn't say it's top 20 of all time. Number 20, Lenny Hot Mike reveals that he has a mistress and that he wants to divorce Lisa. I think that's a really good moment. That's actually a little bit forgotten about. I love that they added that one in there. 19 Michael Darby sued for sexual assault for the cameraman I mean that's definitely an unforgeted that's definitely a major moment number 18 Monique versus Candace and their fight yeah that's a major housewives moment number 17 the roni boat ride from hell 16 Nene Leakes tells Kim Zolciak to close your legs to married men that's like I would actually maybe rank that higher because I think that was the reunion that that informed what all real housewives reunions were like after that like that was groundbreaking number 15 luanda right from hell already i did yeah that was number 17.

33:12Ben Mandelker: sorry and then number 15 luanda lecceps how could you do this to me question mark which is i think just that entire it's about tom moment and yeah that's a legendary moment there number 14 monica Garcia is exposed as a Salt Lake City Housewives troll account. I think that goes higher than 14, the season finale of season four finale of Salt Lake City. I think that's like a top five moment personally.

33:41Ronnie Karam: Well, it's definitely top five of Unforgettable because Heather won't shut up about it still.

33:48Ronnie Karam: Receipts. What is it? How am I forgetting? Receipts. Prove.

33:55Ben Mandelker: Timeline. Screenshots. Timeline. Everything.

33:58Ronnie Karam: It's right here in front of me. They're showing the clip, and I'm still misquoting the clip. But yeah, Heather will be talking about that for the rest of her life. Yeah. She'll be getting her Lifetime Achievement Award. Being like, thank you so much for honoring me. Receipts. Two. Screenshot. Timeline.

34:21Ben Mandelker: Number 13, they have Kim Zolciak's wig shift, which I feel like that was a big moment. but I don't know if I put it higher than the other moments they've ranked so far, to be honest. I don't think that's higher than Close Your Legs to Married Men. I don't think that's higher than some of the other stuff. Maybe higher than the Lenny Hoxstein hot mic, but I think that I would put Who Gonna Check Me Boo as a bigger, like a more unforgettable moment than the wig shift.

34:49Ronnie Karam: Yeah, the wig shift was pretty good, though. It was. One thing among many they showed in the Ultimate Girls trip was, where is your scooter? Where is it?

35:02Ben Mandelker: Yes. One of my favorites. Number 12, Tamra Judge, That's My Opinion. That's my opinion! Yeah, that one belongs on there for sure. Yeah. Number 11, Aviva Drescher throws her prosthetic leg. That's a big moment. I actually never, I didn't like that moment as much as everyone else did. I didn't think it was as I felt it felt like honestly a little staged by her I've always felt that way but I know a little moment yeah that was huge but you know cats was staged too and it was still good exactly like I think that Aviva Drescher came into the night knowing she was going to throw that leg and she was waiting for her moment so that like is what takes away from it a little bit but it is one of the most famous moments so there's that number 10 scary Island.

35:46Ben Mandelker: I would put Scary Island higher. I think that's one of the most, like, that's just so iconic. That's more than top 10. Number nine, Vicki Gumbelson finds out her mom died during Bunko. Yes. Number eight, Tamara Judge asked for a divorce on camera. Yes, that was wild. Number seven, Vicki Gumbelson's boyfriend, Brooks, fakes cancer. Wow, a real run with Orange County right here uh number six i wish they had it and vicky helped him because she wanted a fucking casserole that would be a good touch number six phaedra parks have missed a spreading a damaging rumor about candy burris and portia williams yep yep the first four part reunion that was insane number five wasn't that the first three part uh oh maybe it was the first three part i think that was the first three and now they're all three but um they're like this is so big that we have to have three and now you may be right about that you may be right and then uh number five i don't even

36:46Ronnie Karam: remember receipts proof screenshots timeline or whatever so i don't know that i'd count on me but it's how it is in my memory okay sorry jill in the chat says four part so four we'll see we'll see

36:58Ben Mandelker: what the general consensus is but jill is saying the four part uh number five this one i don't know about this number five the number five most unforgettable moment in all of real housewives neanie leaks saying it's getting weird but i still need to get this watch this scene it's with her that guy john that she was dating and he gave her a watch that was definitely memorable and it That scene spawned a lot of memes. So it sort of has a weird afterlife. But in all reality, I have a hard time saying that that's the number five? Number five of all time?

37:36Ronnie Karam: That's crazy. And especially in NeNe moments. Close Your Leg to Married Men is bigger than this. White Refrigerator. I don't know if that's even on here. I haven't read the list. But this wasn't the highest on the list of NeNe things, much less all of them.

37:51Ben Mandelker: but it was there's there is a thing that that's been going around about this scene for for a while it just sort of revives every now and then that's like in this one scene like the number of memes that have come from this scene which is true like there's a lot of memes from that scene and like a lot of gifs but i still have to say i think it's a little high for the scene um and then number four teresa judice goes to jail yep number three jen shaw gets arrested on camera absolutely i think that's a hundred percent the right placement for that number two lisa rinna versus kim richards in amsterdam i don't think that's the number two most unforgettable thing that happened oh that's

38:31Ronnie Karam: pretty high up there i think that's a good choice for sure it's a good one i think it's number two i think it's pretty funny that this is a moment and of course kyle's not mentioned here but in her girls trips she listed this as her most iconic moment kyle like what she did this was not your moment kyle so it's kind of funny to see it on the hollywood reporter and no picture of

38:53Ben Mandelker: kyle i know and then the number one you know obviously is theresa flipping the table so that makes sense theresa in the table flip i have to say i can't i would i would i am not comfortable with a list that puts on the Amsterdam thing at number two, but does not have any mention whatsoever of the Alison Dubois dinner party. Like that has to be on there. That's crazy. That's a crazy, crazy omission.

39:19Ronnie Karam: That was huge. That could have been, um, that could have been in the Nene on a date slot. I think so. But the Nene close your leg to married men should be higher.

39:29Ben Mandelker: That should be higher. The watch scene, I don't think makes top 20. Unfortunately, I think Alison Dubois should be in there. um but yeah i mean overall pretty strong list i would say i liked it i think i generally generally liked it i feel like strangely enough i think leanne locken being high on meds um and saying that carrie's husband gets blowjobs at the roundup i think that could have been like a number

39:53Ronnie Karam: 19 that was a big one he gets yeah was it oh yeah wait boys who did it jackson says i made it nice

40:01Ben Mandelker: Like, how is that entire trip not even referenced here? That's crazy. Like, yeah, there probably should be New York moments. They probably just have to like pare it down. That's probably too much. I would actually, I think I would move the wig shift out and put in, I made it nice. But then there's probably just, it's probably just too much Roni. Cause I mean, let's be honest. Roni has so many famous moments. Yeah, they really do.

40:26Ronnie Karam: But I think this is a pretty good list overall. Yeah. That's fun. Really, this list should let us all know how blessed we are. Just reading through this. This is like our history book. And it's pretty good.

40:39Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Heidi Jones says, don't be all uncool. Jennifer says, Lenny should not have made it on the list. I agree with that.

40:48Ronnie Karam: I don't think the Lenny thing was one of the biggest moments on Housewives.

40:52Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I think that's fair. It could have been bumped out. In fact, Super Vixen says, Haitian mortician. I would do Haitian mortician over the Lenny moment, to be honest. That was one of the wildest things. Or honestly, if you want to include something that has a little bit more to it, I'd say maybe Lisa telling the cast that she's getting divorced and the way the cast all rallied around her. That was an unbelievable scene.

41:18Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Let's see. My LAX says – oh, God. These are scrolling so fast. Sorry, buddy. Where are you? Oh, my gosh. The Ashley Darby song.

41:30Ben Mandelker: uh coffee and love should be top jk jk yeah yeah there's actually so many moments

41:37Ronnie Karam: gertie's cancer episode yep um karen's tax thing was a big one karen uh the tax uh press conference thing that she did was pretty crazy i know i mean it's the morgan the morgan letters

41:55Ben Mandelker: it's actually it's wild yeah who gonna check me boo should have been on there Bravo Candy Bitch

42:02Ronnie Karam: says Tom flipping his car speech yes

42:06Ben Mandelker: there also maybe should have been more from New Jersey than just a table flip I think the christening deserves a spot I think the christening was wild that actually set up the future for New Jersey I mean there were more things even the mime oh my god uh doha says the mime that's yes that was a hilarious moment that wasn't about like fighting

42:28Ronnie Karam: it just was funny yeah well real housewives keeps on giving us gifts to this very day the girls trip um was basically a clip show but man i laughed my ass off watching that i thought it was so

42:44Ben Mandelker: funny they've really brought so much commercials here comes one right now

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43:51Ronnie Karam: you want to go here there's a rumor that shami is not coming to uh atlanta and bravo's bringing nini back but i think they've already said no that that's not true andy cohen debunks nini leaks real house rise return and says uh that's not true he debunks it i think they should put a headline and then debunk it in the very next headline what i think they should bring nini

44:16Ben Mandelker: back though obviously you know i've had such an up and down um sort of like experience with nini as a cast member in the sense of that like obviously when she her early seasons she was untouchable she was truly the best that there was like like just like unassailable there's the instant icon status but then you know as i've said many times like later like in her later runs she she really did sort of become she started to act like she was better than the show and it would come across it was like very unpleasant to watch but that being said i think that like we should have i think nini should come back i think it'd be great to have nini back because she is so funny and i would actually like to see what nini is like nowadays you know her you know like greg has passed and you know there's i would like to see what like now nini's nini's new vibe is like um i i feel like she had a lot of she had a lot going on that like i wonder if we could just tap into like what we love about nini and and maybe there's been she's gone through stuff that may have really you know caused her to have some interesting personal growth so i think i think it's time to have nini back on the housewives yeah she's great in the first scene of the

45:31Ronnie Karam: ultimate girls trip that's great seeing her back there so i hope she comes back to you This one's pretty funny. Shannon Bedore, this is from All About the Truth. Oh, All About the Real Housewives. But Shannon Bedore fires back after former Orange County producer accuses her of crew meltdowns. I cooked you dinner. It's just such a Shannon thing. Wow, Shannon's really a diva and an asshole of the crew. How dare you? I cooked you dinner. Do you not remember? The salmon. The cream cheese. Inside of the salmon. How dare you?

46:08Ben Mandelker: I served you a low-calorie meal that featured quinoa and asparagus, and this is how you repay me? It's just, I let you into my house. I let you almost into my chair, but then I said, your shorts have pathogens, so unfortunately we have to put down a piece of plastic. And then I said, no, the plastic has pathogens. So we put down a piece of paper towel, but then the paper towel was, well, it wasn't organic, so then I just had you sit outside and eat your food. And I just sort of dangled it from a rope because I didn't want your pathogens on my forks, But you understand that that still counts as hospitality.

46:38Ronnie Karam: The Real Housewives star addressed the situation after producer Patrick McDonald claimed she had lost her shit, yelling, screaming and cussing at producers and described her as one of the most miserable and narcissistic housewives across the franchise. Listen, Patrick McDonald, I respect your journey. You know, this guy quit Housewives and then was all over social media talking about it and making videos about it. and I get it but what show do you think you're working on? One of the most miserable and narcissistic housewives hi I'm sorry for clocking in geez sorry for coming to work today it's like that lady was scanning so many vegetables she's a checkout lady that's what she does like let her live yeah I have to say

47:30Ben Mandelker: I'm gonna sneeze actually I'm gonna mute myself like

47:33Ronnie Karam: well how dare you i cooked you dinner and now you're gonna sneeze i had to sneeze i had to

47:40Ben Mandelker: expel the pathogens um yeah i agree with you it's like i'm not sure that what he's saying is wrong but i just don't know if like we if that actually makes her worse for us or better i mean if anything it makes me be like oh god i love shannon you know well we know that it's true because we've

48:00Ronnie Karam: seen shannon yell at producers on the show they've kept the footage in here's the thing i think that bugs me the season 18 was a tough one for shannon they say as alexis returned to oc while dating shannon's ex-boyfriend john jansen okay you're one of the producers of the show that made this happen you know what i mean yeah you're like oh wow this guy who just broke up with you is now hooking up with this other lady from the show for publicity and now they're all over the place and that we're going to bring them on to torture your ass all season and call you out and then they're like wow so how dare she disrespect the producers what are you doing to her i mean what the hell

48:38Ben Mandelker: yeah i mean i think the funniest thing is when someone is a monster but they're like but i made you dinner as if that like absolves all all the monstrosities that people do um that's why it's

48:47Ronnie Karam: so shannon to be like she doesn't even deny it she just says how dare you say that i made you I was good to you.

48:53Ben Mandelker: I made you dinner. And then when I sat down with you at that dinner, I told you all the ways you've done wrong things for me. But I think you're right. I mean, like, that was one of the lowest moments of her life. She just had this DUI. She just broke up with John Jansen. And now there's this person who's back and, like, in her workplace. It's just, it's a miserable, miserable time. And this producer was part of that. So, like, it goes both ways. But what I will say is I don't think that Patrick was lying. I just think that to us as an audience, we're like, shrug. Like we've seen this behavior on camera.

49:29Ben Mandelker: Like you said, she's freaked out at the audience. I'm sorry, at the producers many times on the show. We've seen it happen. We've seen her lose her mind over the smallest things over the years. And we have someone here in the chat who just says that my, I lost it, but they said, They confirmed some IRL experience that she's rough. But we're not hiring people up for these shows. We're not watching people on these shows who are pleasant and are gentle to get along with.

50:00Ronnie Karam: Of course, I believe every word of it. It's just you're a producer of Housewives who's making money on making these women's lives hell. So I'm not going to feel sorry for you right now. Sorry. Sorry. you're torturing them for a living so i don't care if they give you shit now if this was like she was mean to a waiter or something like that then okay that would be a different story but a producer of real housewives no give them hell that's what i say um well kath run in the chat

50:31Ben Mandelker: says that um that her niece was in school with the twins and shannon was truly a monster irl and then says she was banned from watching any sports games at the school because she was so nasty to the refs so uh that's you know that's according to katherine in the chat well okay so are we gonna

50:54Ronnie Karam: are we gonna get mad at housewives are we gonna get mad at sports because sports brings out i'm so sick of the sports and people acting crazy around sports i'm sick of it i have had it i used to go to cheer competitions with my niece cadence when she was in cheer or for her you know with my family oh my gosh those parents are no joke they're terrifying yeah they really

51:17Ben Mandelker: they're too much um so uh yeah so shannon another person's come forward shannon is a monster and the audience responds with a collective shrug um yeah i'm like duh we're not new here Patrick okay we know yes um okay Liz McGraw reveals the real reason she quit Rory wait what's this okay I'm clicking on it okay Liz McGraw to do with her best friend you know possibly going to prison

51:52Ronnie Karam: for cocaine trafficking when she and her husband had a boat that was out three weeks out of the month okay sorry go ahead she says for me the main thing i think was anything that could have

52:05Ben Mandelker: an entire community believe things about you that are so wholly untrue that scared the fucking shit out of me because the hate the shrapnel of hate was only a byproduct of it you know the notion that i'm on drugs and believe me i've seen everyone completely convinced of it anyone who knows me knows I'll owe the do I love anything to do with drugs I'm like remind me what you do again as a

52:31Ronnie Karam: profession I just I can't remember what it is you do you literally sell drugs what are you talking about they're legal but they're illegal it's marijuana but come on I can't I hate I absolutely hate listen Liz I love you on Rhode Island loved you I'm so upset that you're leaving but when you act like you did on Rhode Island, you don't want to say it was it would never ever be drugs. Most of us would be like, I'm so sorry I was on drugs. Like for most of us, that would be an excuse for our behavior. If you don't have that, what is your excuse? I would go with drugs. I would just stay with drugs.

53:13For me.

53:14Ben Mandelker: Just stay with drugs. Yeah. Well, I wish you'd come back. That's what we were going to say. No, I wasn't. I was checking to see if there was any other last headlines that broke over the past few hours. I was just doing a last check.

53:35Ronnie Karam: Oh, a last check on Insta? Okay.

53:37Ben Mandelker: Yeah, but so far I'm seeing.

53:39Ronnie Karam: Let's see what there is.

53:41Ben Mandelker: I'm seeing. Yeah, I'm not seeing anything good. I'm looking on page six. Carly Simon takes aim at a strange ex-James Taylor in brutally honest track, Maybe I Never Loved You. Well, thank God for you, Carly Simon, sneaking into the tabloids out of nowhere. Love that for you.

54:01Ronnie Karam: All right, Carly. Well, Carly said it best, guys. Thank you so much for being with us. We're not doing the question and answer session just because I know you guys will make me cry during it. So we're not going to do that today. But we will be back tomorrow to cover shows, and we really love you guys. Thanks so much for being with us. We'll talk to you next time. Bye everyone. Bye.

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58:18Ronnie Karam: I mean, I just have. It is delicious. Caesar sauce is like a Parmesan, garlicky blend with some lemon in it. And you can dip anything in there.

58:26Ben Mandelker: One thing I have been known to do is to stop over at McDonald's and go to the drive-thru and get myself a Caesar snack wrap and just dip some fries in the Caesar sauce. Also, the Krispy strips in the Caesar sauce. Honestly, try it. it's really good.

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