#3504 Below Deck Med S11E11 Part One: It’s Hard Out Here for a Shrimp

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2:15Ben Mandelker: Hello and welcome to Watch Our Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the wonderful and excitable Mr. Ronny Karam. Hi, Ronny. How's it going? Well, hello. How are you doing, baby? Doing just great. It's Tuesday and it's Below Deck Day. Below Deck Med Day. Hey, remember the fish report? Guess what? If you want to relive the glory of the fish report or you're like, what the hell is the fish report? It's on our YouTube. Yes, Watch What Crap does have a YouTube. You know, we promote so many things at all times, but we often forget our sweet little YouTube.

2:58Ben Mandelker: And there's just a playlist of all the fish reports from the past blow deck down under. So it's just nothing but fish report, just pure fish and commentary. If you ever want to see two gay men reading Fish for Filth, check out the fish report on YouTube. Because that's what we do and we get into it, okay? So go check that out. And then if you would like to not be underwater, but above water and even above deck with some below deck people and some podcast people, you go join Ronnie and Hannah and Daisy because they're going to be on a little boat sailing around the Bay Area, the Bay Area and back down.

3:43Ben Mandelker: They will be up there this Sunday. So go join Ronnie and Hannah and Daisy for that great event. the tickets are on Hannah and Daisy's Instagrams.

3:53Ronnie Karam: And then if you're still... Oh, sorry to interrupt you, but there's also another one that just was announced that I'm going to do with Hannah and Austin from Southern Trump. That's going to be in New York on September 14th, the Monday, okay? We're going to go around New York and have dinner together with Austin. And so you can get tickets for that. Just go to Hannah Farrier's Instagram link in bio. That's fabulous.

4:18Ben Mandelker: It's going to be fun. That will be a very, very fun time. All of them. I mean, it's a good lineup that you guys are doing. And then this Sunday, I will be, if you are landlocked here in Los Angeles, I'll be talking with Martin Sorgi, winner of the Great American Baking Show. And he has a new cookbook out called Great Bakes. So I'll be in conversation with him. So join us for those fine, fine events. And by the way, thank you to our dear friends, Evan and Danny at Page Six Radio. They had me on this morning. very early in the morning just to talk bravo which is my way of saying i've been talking about bravo since before dawn today yeah thanks for the invite dicks well i basically i basically uh ambushed them i was like are you guys here and they're like come to our show we're doing it from five to seven a.m and i was like well that's a good one to not be asked on oh you gotta have a

5:14Ronnie Karam: that time uh well that's fun i love those guys are they different in la is it a different vibe

5:21Ben Mandelker: no they are they are they are truly themselves on from coast to coast um but it was super fun so thanks for having me and with all that being said speaking of coast to coast let's talk about that dubrovnik coast okay because there's a boat that's parked on on outside of it and it's got

5:39Ronnie Karam: people on it led by captain sandy you know yeah below deck mediterranean season 11 episode 11 eiffel power because guess what ben's favorite is back it's a max are you max uh doing push-ups doing pull-ups doing backflip doing sit stands do you know what sit stand is because you don't do gymnastics like Max.

6:03Ben Mandelker: Yes. Max is back. Guess who's back. Max is back. Max is back. Max is back. Max is back. Max is back. Max is back. He's like, I work. This is you. Last year on Bavada. It was like my best performance in my career. I saved the tender. I survived the jellyfish attack. No, no. You jellyfish defended itself against Max attack. That's what happened.

6:32Ronnie Karam: The jellyfish did what all of us want to do when they're confronted by you, which is to squirt you in the face with poison. Okay. So God bless you, jellyfish. And stop with the jellyfish slander on this show.

6:47Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Yeah, please. You started it. You started it. You touched the jellyfish, then you touched your eyeball. That's your own stupidity. Okay. You, we survived your stupidity. Not you survived the jellyfish attack. So he's just proud of himself. And then he goes on the boat.

7:04Ronnie Karam: Captain Admiral Gandhi! Okay. All right, Max. Okay. All right. Well, can't wait to see how you almost wrecked the boat this year because you know it's coming. Yeah, seriously.

7:14Ben Mandelker: So he tells us, after I live provider, I work to get my yacht master. I got a higher certification of teaching. But when I have a call from Captain Sandy, I put my armor and I jetpack myself directly to her to a decision. Yeah. Yeah. Captain Sandy. I cannot let her down. And I was like, oh, you actually can in many different ways.

7:34Ronnie Karam: So you left Yacht Master School to come here? Is that what he said? No, I think he got the Yacht Master. He did get a higher certification. I got a higher certification of teaching. He got a higher certification and then the bat signal went out and he came a calling.

7:55Ben Mandelker: The hug signal. Come on.

7:58Ronnie Karam: Uggs are waiting for you. Guess what? Guess what you need? You need to nap hard. We need you, Max. Yacht Master Sir. The Branzino signal. The Branzino signal. I had Branzino this week just because of this show. Really? How was it? It was on the menu. It was great. And I ordered it because it was one of the rare times that you get Branzino that is deboned and filleted. Yep. Because that one's a rough one. There's a lot of bones in the brand Zeno. Okay. Made that mistake a few times. It was really good. Okay. A Yacht Master Certificate is globally recognized credential proving you can safely skipper a sailing or power yacht.

8:38Ronnie Karam: Safely skipper. Skipper. The safely skipper. It's issued by the Royal Yachting Association. I'm royal.

8:47Ben Mandelker: Wow.

8:51Ben Mandelker: Royal Yachting Association. which is administered by the king and queen of Yachtland.

9:01Ben Mandelker: So Max says hi to Sandy. And she's like, you know, we got four charters left and we're going to smash it. Okay, can you go find Joe? He's like, oh, Joe's here. Yeah, well, we have Nathan too, but his back is out. So Joe is going to be acting bosun slash president of Undermining Nathan Club. So, yeah, go find him.

9:25Ronnie Karam: You know, I think having Max back on board for Joe's first charter is acting both. It's great for morale. Great. But I need Asha to stay on the deck because we're just going to torture Asha now. Fuck Asha. Am I right? I just need to get through this charter and we'll be fine. Everybody's going to be just fine. If I hear that fucking maraca one more time, I'm going to kill some. Asha's just like.

9:51Ben Mandelker: it's in morocco it's hilarious

9:59Ben Mandelker: um so max and joe hug and joe's like i ended up loving max in the last season he's a bit wild but i know how to deal with max because you know i'm a very qualified boss and i know how to deal with people and he's going to be an asset to the team and he's going to help me prove myself has both on like okay so uh we see uh we see footage of max being crazy as usual and we saw last year nathan was like max i feel you without a gun i'm gonna have a fit but then we see like max also being crazy with joe and joe's like i see you max and then max is like happy i guess i didn't really see too much of a difference i see you it was like the scene in crocodile dundee when like Paul Hogan does this thing to like that giant ox or whatever.

10:46Ben Mandelker: He's like, and the ox was like, and then just like settles down, you know, a real current reference. Yeah. All he needs is the, I love the good story though. You don't get it. You don't get an ox reference very much. Can we get Linda Kowalski to come on to this boat? Whatever happened to Linda Kowalski? She was the female lead of crocodile Dundee. That was her name? Linda Kowalski? I know. Why does she sound like a hardball detective? I'm sorry. It's Kozlowski. Linda Kozlowski. I don't know what she's up to these days, but God bless. I can't believe that was her.

11:28Ronnie Karam: I'm picturing a totally different actress. She's retired. I just looked her up.

11:34Ben Mandelker: Crocodile Dundee in Los Angeles in 2001. It said, notes, final film role on her Wikipedia. I didn't even know there was a Crocodile Dundee in Los Angeles. I feel a little robbed. Oh, yeah. That was the follow-up.

11:45Ronnie Karam: He comes to L.A. But that was the third. There was Crocodile Dundee 2, but I didn't know that there was a 3. Wow. Oh, yeah. 2 was in the big city, right? Or was one in New York? Wasn't it about him coming to the big city? Or 2 was in the big city? It was something like that.

11:59Ben Mandelker: Like, number 2 had, like, I think drug dealers. Or maybe that was number 1. I think number 2 was. All I remember is that number 1 ended with him being in the subway and was crowded. and he climbed on the crowd of people in the subway. And I'm like, you're stepping on people's heads. That's inappropriate. Crocodile Dundee.

12:15Ronnie Karam: Oh, we don't think of stuff like that in the outback. Step on my head, it's as good as a tree stump. Well, one thing I love that they're doing, by the way, to anyone who's like, that is incorrect. Crocodile Dundee trivia. We're gay people. And I feel like gay people shouldn't have to know Crocodile Dundee trivia. That's it.

12:38Ben Mandelker: I don't think anyone would have to know it. That's not a fact. This is a fact.

12:45Ronnie Karam: That's not a knife. Oh, yeah, I do remember that. That's not a knife. This is a knife. He pulls out his giant machete thing. Bowie. Knife or whatever. What a life. Straight people. What a time. Yeah. I just remember leaving that and thinking, God, straight people, huh? Well, my dad's a real wuss. I've never seen him step on anybody's head.

13:07Ben Mandelker: to get somewhere yeah man up dad yeah seriously i know paul hogan god bless uh so one thing i love

13:17Ronnie Karam: that they're doing on this show is constantly triggering nathan on purpose because they just keep texting him like hey just want you to know everything on deck is amazing without you we've got everything covered didn't even know you were gone and uh sandy sends him one of those texts right now. She's like, hey, Nathan, an update. We have Max on board now. I'm going to find someone additional for Charter 2, for Charter 7 as well. So rest up. We'll be covered. We don't really need you. Everything's going fine without you. Yeah, just enjoy. Enjoy doing nothing over there. We're sure enjoying you doing nothing over here.

13:51Ronnie Karam: Wow, haven't crashed the boat since you left. So that's a positive.

13:58Ben Mandelker: Just want to say I hope your resting up your back because guess who's carrying the boat now? Joe. So don't worry about it. Okay. Sleep well.

14:10Ronnie Karam: Maybe painful doing what you're doing, but just remember you're spending your time the one way that Norma is completely unable to with a man and that's on your back. So enjoy that.

14:24Ben Mandelker: Listen, if you, uh, I know, I know you're bored there at, uh, here in, uh, in Croatia, just doing nothing at home, but I have it under good authority that if you turn to channel 234 on your TV, there is an Elaine Boosler special that's airing right now. So get ready for some laughs.

14:42Ronnie Karam: Haha. Guess what? Women drink milk out of cups. Men drink it. Men's cups for milk is a carton. Isn't that crazy? You never see lipstick on a milk carton. Elaine Boosler is something else.

14:57Ben Mandelker: Can I say something? I think Elaine Boosler must have been on my mind because today's her birthday and it's also Madeline Stowe's birthday. And if we had known all these years that Madeline Stowe and Elaine Boosler shared a birthday, I don't even know. Like, I think our, we would, crappens wouldn't have lasted this long because our brains would have exploded many years ago.

15:17Ronnie Karam: i know that's a pretty big birthday i can imagine somewhere madeline stowe is somewhere with one eye kind of botox closed and the other one twitching while a vein pops out of her forehead learning that she's the same birthday as elaine boosler like really elaine boosler i have a vision

15:37Ben Mandelker: i have a vision of madeline stowe walking up to elaine boosler slapping her and then going, happy birthday.

15:54Ben Mandelker: It's my day.

15:56Ronnie Karam: So Nathan texts back, thanks for the update. Glad he's back. Back is on the mend, hopefully. At least I'm doing better than Madeline Stowe, learning that she's got the same birthday as Elaine Boosler. So Kaylee and Jen are discussing rearranging the schedules for the Charter. and jen's actually being nice to kaylee which is yeah weird well that's because she has someone

16:20Ben Mandelker: new to undermine which is cat which is that she after after spending episodes bemoaning the fact that there was another woman in her love triangle with uh luke uh she's now going to go after the guy that cat has been literally crying to her about but we'll get to that momentarily they're being nice actually it's right now it is right now and cat and coop are are flirty and everything and um well i guess maybe it's not right now but they're just like talking and they're still being like silly and and like hiding hiding their their torrid relationship

16:59Ronnie Karam: yeah yeah the secret relationship plan is just like keeping it hidden it's so sexy and now he wants to like hide chocolate bars in his cabin and uh he wants that for him and joe but i know about the secret this is crazy it's a terrible terrible idea so uh then of course the

17:22Ben Mandelker: producer asked coop what's the vibe like but he doesn't know that they know because he's not smart and he's like oh we're good we're good yeah uh so then we go to the pantry where joy and kaylee

17:39Ronnie Karam: are discussing the charter and joy is like okay you have to tell them we are having a meeting with each other not as soon as they arrive but at one point say the chef would like to have a sit down do you have it do you have this can you do this and joy is like i just want to talk to the

17:56Ben Mandelker: guest because last charter was very successful and we have some time off and you know i want to talk to luke so i feel very strong and everything should go well of course um but unfortunately these guests have requested a lot of things and we know it's not going to go out the thing that's tricky is that i think that the chefs fall into this trap all the time which is that they think when there's a bunch of picky eaters that you should like sit and talk with them and find out what they all want to eat but then what happens is that they all they don't they don't approach it for like oh what's something that we could all eat together what would be a good what would be a good like course for us like a good menu for the table they just all shout out random different things like i want animal crackers i want shrimp i want fruit roll-ups and then you have to provide for everything like you open the floodgates a little bit too much and then you get screwed

18:45Ronnie Karam: yeah and it's interesting because joy is doing a lot of the things that we suggest when we see chefs fall into these traps, like don't give them a ton of options. Just tell them what it is. And then that's it. Because the second you come up and you're like, what would, would you like something? Then they're all like, yeah, I want a shrimp. I want a pizza. I want a hamburger. I want this. I want that. So don't like, she tries, she really tries every method in this, but these guests are just going to be pains in the ass no matter what, because they're just that kind of people. Like I'm kind of like that in my family.

19:19Ronnie Karam: I don't eat meat. My sisters don't eat gluten. My, you know, we all have kind of a thing. I don't think we're this bad about it because this one's really bad. This one's like vegan, gluten-free. I mean, it's all over the place. This one, one girl doesn't like avocado, but then you have to serve vegan. So this one's really all over, but they have no problem just ordering 20 different things and then wondering why it doesn't all come out at the same time or yeah they need someone needs to explain

19:50Ben Mandelker: the stuff to them well also it just seems like all they want is shrimp and so like just put it on your preference sheet like i just just give me shrimp just feed me shrimp all day long you know

20:01Ronnie Karam: um i know it's a weird thing if it was if you were saying avocado joy would have won this charter because she really was just like i will serve avocado now and then she will have avocado appetizer you will have avocado there was a lot of avocado main dessert avocado with their avocado sundae could we maybe have a little less avocado it's a lot of avocado yeah it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial i love sandwiches i eat a sandwich almost every single day of my life and the best part of a sandwich is the bread. There can be a little carb guilt with bread eating, but not with Hero Bread.

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23:10Ben Mandelker: I feel like if you're a yacht chef, you just have to be prepared for these sort of charters. Like, you just have to have a game plan that's just, like, ready to go in the back pocket. You know, maybe there could have been, like, a— She did. but like nothing but avocado avocado was the game plan they just um they just were very specific about what they wanted at all times um so joy is just gonna try to be graceful and elegant so on

23:37Ronnie Karam: the bridge this was also a rough one i'm sorry to interrupt you but god nothing will get us going on below deck other than food like food food gets us going the most the food the other thing that's annoying about these guests is that they're nice so it makes it really rough to do to even talk about it because i get so infuriated with the ordering part that i want to yell at them but then they're actually such nice people yeah i like them to be when they're divas i like them to be assholes so you can just be like that asshole how dare eat your fucking avocado but they're actually pretty nice they're nice and it kills me they're very nice but they just keep on

24:21Ben Mandelker: asking and asking and asking for stuff um so now sandy and joe are talking and joe is showing a printout uh of like a schedule and the entire time all i was thinking was you just used up a lot of green ink i don't know i think there's something about having when you own a color printer and you see that much ink like like big boxes of green just green i like i don't know if you have this i don't think you don't have a printer right or do you no i refuse there's something and i know color printer people in the audience will feel this but when you see like a big square of just like full-on green like a color you're like damn i just want to write through you that color you're you're gonna have to, that's gonna cost you$75 soon.

25:08Ben Mandelker: You know, like that's because ink is so expensive. Unnecessarily so, I feel like. Now, I don't know how much it costs to make ink, but I have to imagine that it probably could be as cheap as like$15 a thing. And I don't care, I don't care. Someone from the ink industry can push back on me, but I'm gonna tell you right now, it should be$15. It should not be$75. So I saw that, I saw that schedule that he printed out. I was like, you just use a fuck ton of ink, sir, on this stupid schedule. and you could have just used like a pattern, like a grayscale pattern.

25:38Ronnie Karam: Well, he's one of those who just, he gets a new thing and he's so excited that he just uses different colors of ink for everything. Do you remember those pens back when we were kids that have the different colors in them? So you push down a little rectangular thing and then you have a different color. And the first time you get those, everything is like, every line is a different color.

26:00Ben Mandelker: Well, I remember one time I got one because normally there's like three. There's three. It's like it's like black, red and green or something. Maybe it's like a blue option. But I remember one time I got my hands on one that had like 20 different colors. Oh, yeah. I had the full rainbow one. Remember that it was like a it was like a bullet. It was like a it was like a shell that you put into a cannon and you like slot one thing down. Oh, that was the best. You had so much power. You feel so powerful. Yeah. It's like, OK. He could use any color.

26:31Ronnie Karam: To-do list. Wake up. To-do list. Pick a shower in pink. Go to school in blue. Sad face in orange. Here is a scribble in green and a cloud in pink.

26:50Ronnie Karam: So Aisha and Kaylee discuss the charter in the pantry. And Aisha is asking Kaylee how she's feeling with everything. And she's like, I'm fine. I just want them to have an amazing time. So they'll be fine. Just don't overthink it. It's going to be great.

27:10Ronnie Karam: So Kayleigh is amazed that she is Chief Stew. She's like, it's something I never even dreamed of happening to me on this charter, but I've done it.

27:21Ben Mandelker: And then she promptly breaks a glass. Hashtag liability in my lip. um then jen and cooper being silly because he's like he's like doing he's like folding something and as every with every fold she's like oh oh yeah fold that thing do it yeah turns me on ha and cat walks in like what's going on she's like oh my god it's funny it's hilarious and jen says now that coop is fully single and him and cat are completely done i've been so in my head with this kelly acting cheese stew bullshit i don't know maybe i need a little bit of a distraction i was like you're gonna go after the guy that your friend was just sobbing about like i'm sorry ma 'am you are you are now being really bad she sucks gen sex he's not ready for her to do that um

28:15Ronnie Karam: No, it's not cool. And, of course, Coop is like, yeah, I love when men work. Just me, flirting. Yeah, good old Jen.

28:31Ben Mandelker: So then Max and Joe are talking about Nathan and the lead deckhand position, and Max is like, so Nathan is here, have a relation with him. And Joe's like, oh, no, Nathan's Nathan. You know what I mean? Coo-coo-coo-coo-coo-coo-coo. Power trip, power trip. And Max said, oh, yes, I get it. Like the lead deckhand position last year. I feel like I've been betrayed. And Joe, of course, that's like music to Joe's ears to hear that Max felt betrayed by Nathan.

28:58Ronnie Karam: Well, in favor of Joe. Because last year, it was he really wanted to be lead deckhand. And so did Joe. And then Nathan made Joe lead deckhand because they were friends. And Max got all offended. It's like, how could you? I deserve this. I pet jellyfish. Yeah.

29:16Ben Mandelker: So Max is like, I've been so much disappointed on the lead deckhand position last year. It's all about politics. And the opportunity went under my nose this season. I'm not expecting anything. Okay. But if it can be me, I'll take it. It's already been assigned. But maybe, I don't know.

29:34Ronnie Karam: Well, no, it's only assigned. But now that Joe is lead deckhand, or now that he's Bozen, he can assign a lead deckhand.

29:44Ben Mandelker: Yeah, but Nathan's coming back next week. Oh, he is?

29:48Ronnie Karam: I was hoping Nathan was like, done, done. Is he coming back?

29:52Ben Mandelker: He's coming back next week. I was on the previews. Sorry. They showed Joe's face. Joe's smiling. He's like, I'm Bozen. And Sandy goes, and Nathan's coming back next week. And you see Joe's face go, oh.

30:05Ronnie Karam: It's great. I just thought, I mean, I saw that, but I thought it was going to work out in my favor because I'm just a positive person with a positive attitude. And that's my visualization. I know. So 16 minutes until charter. Nathan is calling Joe, but Joe declines the call. He's like, I can talk to himself after the charter. Ha, ha, ha. Wait, I don't want to talk to him before I institute my brilliant plan of chaining all the toys together in a big square in the water. I've been wanting to do it since I was a little dad.

30:42Ben Mandelker: By the way, this is shitty. He should answer the call. Nathan's his superior. Joe is such an underminer. I'm going back and forth because Joe has historically sucked, and he's really toxic. This is so bad. He is the person in the movies who gets a shot and then poisons the well and then takes over. This guy is a cutthroat corporate douchebag. which is why we watch these shows because we can sort of see like our various workplaces, et cetera, like play out, um, you know, or, or social situations play out on reality TV. So he is one of those people. He is also seems to be a better person than Nathan.

31:22Ben Mandelker: So I don't know what to do with this situation because Nathan is an asshole. So Nathan's an asshole. Joe's an underminer. I don't know what to do, but like, I think that Joe should have answered that phone call. And I thought like, I was like, this guy's a fucking piece of work.

31:34Ronnie Karam: Yeah. No, I it's hard to stand up for Nathan because he's been making me crazy all season. So guess what? I won't do it. I don't like hard things. Well, I don't like doing hard things. I don't know. I guess I can't really phrase that to where it doesn't sound terribly nasty. So Kat and Jen's Kat. The hardest thing is talk about how you don't like hard things, it turns out. Huh. To really keep that thing out of my face, for Christ's sake, aim it, aim it over there. So that's not true, though. But, you know, I don't want to get disgusting. So then we go to Kat and Jen's cabin. And Kat's like, what do you think of Max?

32:13Ronnie Karam: Like, I'm going to be celibate until I go traveling. So, sorry, Max. Not getting into this.

32:21Ben Mandelker: And Kat's like, so you're not interested in, like, anyone else in the boat? She's like, maybe Cooper. She's like, fuck off. I was like, I mean, you're not going down that road again, right? No, but I have to be amicable. It's not like I have a secret romance with him where we meet up in a certain locker at certain parts of the night and no one can see us. And it's definitely not a thing happening. Okay.

32:47Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I wasn't just crying on your shoulder about him last night. Who does that? I know. The next day. Like, you guys are done, right? I'll get my chance. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I would ruin that guy's life. He's just a kid. Edwin is life. It's me, Jen. Wait till I pull out my power bang braids.

33:10Ben Mandelker: I want those braids back so badly. I feel like we'll never get them again. So, uh, like, I wish those braids were like a look she was going for. It was just like, it was part of like that Game of Thrones thing. It's like she was in costume. There were costume braids. So Kat is like, I don't even know how to...

33:26Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but if you're gonna be Game of Thrones, you need to be like Cersei or Dany. You don't need to be one of the people in the fucking pub with the townspeople who were just begging for rice or whatever.

33:37Ben Mandelker: She was like that crazy lady up north of the wall who was like Jon Snow. She was so annoying, that one.

33:48Ronnie Karam: I love that lady, the redhead. She's like, listen here, Jon Snow. You are not coming between me and the other wildlings.

33:56Ben Mandelker: Oh, geez. Enough. Enough with the wildlings. so they're the McBees of Game of Thrones so they are they are we're going to save this

34:09Ronnie Karam: farm no matter what we do we're going to send we're going to sell miniature White Walkers little tiny we're going to breed them

34:18Ben Mandelker: a souvenir shop wildly souvenirs they've got like sell apple butter so wildling tallow wildling tallow yeah so cat is like um i don't even know how to deal with this like she has no idea that that we're actually still seeing each other so on the other hand like like another love triangle what are you doing jen i'm like she doesn't have to even know that you're still seeing each other this is just like bad girl code when she when cat has listened to you bitch and moan about kaylee and luke and everyone else all season long and then this is how you repeat repay

34:54Ronnie Karam: her yet yeah but also you have to remember that probably in jen's mind we just had that scene of jen going off about asha and uh kaylee or kaylee specifically and her saying you need to change your attitude jen i'm serious like you need an attitude adjustment or this is not gonna end well for y 'all and jen didn't look incredibly pissed off but jen does not like being told no and she does not like you know she doesn't like a boss so she's she might have a little bit of that in her where she's like oh really then i'm gonna take your guy yeah shah um so on the deck on the dock

35:38Ben Mandelker: slash deck uh guests arrive and they say hi they're coming in hello kaylee gives them the tour bunny is the primary and this is bunny's econ group in case you couldn't tell from all the talk of economics that this group had this is their economic group this she's an economist if you may remember and this is her economic group and they're here and the big lesson is from kaylee at least that she tries to connect with these people is you know you know what i like about money is that money gives you choices so there you go yeah well bunny says that she teaches people how to redistribute their wealth no thanks i can do that for you i do that every

36:26Ronnie Karam: day i go to the store i was gonna say uh chipotle home goods uh starbucks how many yeah exactly streaming services yeah that's usually something that people are complaining that the government is doing, they're like oh no they're going to come in and redistribute the wealth which

36:50Ben Mandelker: God forbid you know so Kaylee says I know that economics is a bit money and I'm going to be really honest with you that that's where it ends for me that's fine And we will not expect to see you on CNBC anytime soon. So it's okay.

37:10Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So there's gluten-free bread snacks. And everyone's complaining that the bread is very hard. Because gluten-free people really have a plethora of options now. I mean, gluten-free stuff has gotten really good. It used to be gluten-free stuff was just shit and hard and gross. But it's really good now. So good for them. being like, this is not good gluten-free.

37:38Ben Mandelker: But they actually have options. They have options to, they don't just have to accept anything that comes their way. They can actually have, yeah.

37:45Ronnie Karam: Because even five years ago, I feel like, well, at least 10 years ago, if you said you were gluten-free, they were like, okay, well, here's a big pen. Enjoy chewing that.

37:55Ben Mandelker: That's all you got. Here, we're going to cut out the circle from a shoebox and just, you know, just put this in your mouth. Yeah. I have to say, I think that gluten-free crackers, the gluten-free cracker technology is amazing. In fact, I think that most gluten-free crackers are almost better than gluten crackers. How about that? Almond, what's that?

38:15Ronnie Karam: Gluten-free pretzels, delicious.

38:18Ben Mandelker: Those rice crackers, those little rice crackers, they have a nice little crackle. What's that Mills one that we all like? And by we all, I've just decided that we both want to get it. Haley? Haley Mills. You know those Haley Mills crackers? Donna? Oh, Donna Mills crackers. You know. Gluten-free Mills crackers. It's the Simple Mills. Simple Mills? You can't really have a very good conversation with those crackers, but they... It's very Simple Mills.

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41:42Ronnie Karam: So Sandy is preparing to leave the dock and, you know, Joe's coming up. It almost feels like this dick crew is developing into my own. it's not really nathan's mo to organize it it's mine the way i tell them look watch them all move when i say move they moved um the king of the world i'm taking over i'm the boss of life calm down for christ's sake you're just telling people to grab a rope

42:11Ben Mandelker: literally the guests just got on board and already joe is like well look at what i've shaped with my team? I feel like we're bonded for life. You've been at the reins. You haven't been at the reins long enough to be in the race yet. You've just walked from the paddock to the gate. What are you talking about? Even the squeegees are telling me

42:32Ronnie Karam: thanks, boss.

42:34Ben Mandelker: Thanks. They're not... When I carry them, they're called squeegees. Not squeegees. Because that's the last word.

42:44Ronnie Karam: So now we're en route. to margoletti croatia and joy has her meeting with the guests about the food so okay we have a couple of diet restrictions so i want to make sure we are on the same track for dinner japanese and i was thinking glazed veggies with veggie tempura and one of them's like gluten-free tempura better be gluten-free because we're gluten-free she's like yes of course

43:13Ben Mandelker: There's a bunch of people with different preferences and they all think they are the principal. And I'm doing a four-course menu and the list is going on, on, on, on, on. And I'm realizing I'm digging myself into a deep hole.

43:24Ronnie Karam: Yeah, because they really are. Can we have this? Okay, so you're going to have that. Can we have crispy rice? Can we have shrimp? Can we have this? Can we have that? Can we have this? Can we have that? It's like, oh.

43:34Ben Mandelker: I feel like - Yeah, don't do that. It's hard. I think on a menu, everyone thinks they can just get anything at all because it's like a wealthy person's space. But like if I have a dietary restrictions and there's like a menu that's being presented to me, I feel like it's like, okay, everyone's going to be served a like lobster on like a beurre blanc, let's say. It's like, oh, I can't do dairy. So it's like, can I have like lobster with like maybe a salsa verde or something like that? But I feel like these people are like, I don't do dairy. Can I get a cheeseburger instead? It's like, it's like, you should be like, it's about modifications.

44:11Ben Mandelker: is not about a whole new concept just for you, right? Yes.

44:16Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but a lot of guests on these boats are like, well, it's a super yacht. What are your preferences? And then they just go too crazy, you know? Like that lady who had the love charter. Wasn't it the last charter? And she was like, yeah, I don't like this kind of bell pepper. And I don't like that. Okay. Yes. You know, you're going a little far there, lady.

44:40Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Um, so Sandy and Aisha are talking in the wheelhouse and she's like, hey, you're a badass up there, Aisha. She's like, yeah, well, thank you. Now that I've had some time on deck, I'm like, it would have been so cool to work my way up that way. Yes, he'll could do it. No, I have my ring. I don't want to. I mean, what if a diamond falls out? Did you ever have a bachelorette party by the way for your wedding, Sandy?

45:08Ronnie Karam: No, we just had a pin the tail on the Norma party. It was super fun. I just gathered all my gals together and we just poked Norma with pins. That sounds like actually quite a fun time. We were pinning a tail on Norma's tail.

45:25Ben Mandelker: It's really fun. You know, I think she liked it. It's the first time she's been pricked in a while. You know what I'm saying. The only prick at that whole party. Yeah, it was a good time. then we just watched Gigi Fernandez hit tennis balls at someone's head.

45:43Ronnie Karam: She's a champion, you know, joy and Kaylee are discussing the guests, their vibe. And everyone's like, Oh my God, it sounds like a fun group. Uh, and Troy's like, Oh yes, everybody is good for you. Happy lady.

45:59Ben Mandelker: Smiley idiot. So, uh, joy. Yeah. Joy's just muttering to herself the stuff that she has to do. And Luke is still texting. He's like, thinking about you. I miss you. I hope Charter's going well. Shut up. Jeez, you're so cheesy and awful. Just get out of there.

46:14Ronnie Karam: Did they not get this guy a flight out of town? It sounds like he's just sitting in a hotel room somewhere texting. Because I feel like when they go out of town, they're not this cheesily attached still.

46:27Ben Mandelker: I know. I hope he's in a hotel room because that way we know those sheets are getting gleaned. so then we go to the swim platform and they're putting out the toys and Sandy's like, wow I love how fast you got everything out that's great, whoa, and in a square and then they're setting up stuff Joe's like, I've been wanting to do this square

46:49Ronnie Karam: I chained them all together I've done it like that what do you think about it? and it does look very nice and tidy to his credit and she's like, that's how I've wanted it from the very beginning So that's great. Someone finally listened to me.

47:05Ben Mandelker: Why was it so hard to do a square formation with these floats? That's my question.

47:11Ronnie Karam: He said that he did it by using the, I forget what he calls them, the hooks. I guess there's some kind of hooks that you're supposed to hook them all together. And I guess Nathan didn't like doing that. And Joe finally did it. And Sandy's seeing what it's like on the jaw side of the tracks. Yeah.

47:30Ben Mandelker: it's going to get real dicey next week when Nathan doesn't want to do the square because that square made a huge impression. The square. It changed everything. Square floats. So the guests, they want cheeseburgers and shrimp. The thing is the guests are like, Joy is in the middle of preparing this like multi-course meal and the guests decide that they're hungry now. They want cheeseburgers and shrimp. And Joy does not like this because it means it's going to mess up her prep. It messes up everything, and it's distracting. So she's like, fuck this.

48:09Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So then Jen and Joy and Kaylee are talking about their food requests. And Jen's like, fucking hell, Joy. They asked if they could do a cheeseburger and some shrimp. And she's like, no. And Kaylee's like, didn't you have a chat with them to avoid this? She's like, if I have to make an old meal now, it's going to affect my prep, blah, blah, blah. This is not a food marathon here, okay? So she goes up to them, and she's like, oh, I heard that you requested cheeseburger and shrimp skewer. Do you think it's possible? Maybe cookies? I have gluten-free vegan cookies, and I'm doing a four-course menu for tonight, so I need to do a little bit of prep.

48:50So, no.

48:52Ronnie Karam: She tells them in the nicest way, no. And they're like, how did we go from cheeseburgers to cookies? They're not feeling that.

49:02Ben Mandelker: That's very annoying. Well, it's annoying for Joy. It's annoying for the guests, quite frankly, if they're feeling something. I mean, you'd think that they could just throw a burger on, but a Tom burger on, but apparently not. You can't just throw a burger on. That's not how burgers are.

49:18Ronnie Karam: I mean, unless it's like a frozen burger, you know, you got to. You got to do this whole thing. You gotta do the whole thing to make that meat proper I know and you gotta get the fries and all that Congratulations you've reached the end of part one Of a two part recap For part two go look for the recap that says

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