#3519 Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip S504 Part One: Ego Trip

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1:23Ben Mandelker: Hello and welcome to Watch What's Crappin, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about i'm ben mandelker and joining me today is the glorious and fabulous ronnie caram hi ronnie how are you well thank you good what's going on with you happy monday everybody happy monday i've got a little head cold if you're wondering and do you have a little cold i do have a little cold it's so funny that you mentioned that so um if my voice sounds deeper and more gravelly just pretend i'm suzanne blachette providing you with all the hits on bravo So we have a very exciting week of recaps for you guys all today.

2:03Ben Mandelker: Well, it's going to be over the course of the week. But today we have Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip. Before we dive into that, lots of exciting announcements. If you're someone who normally fast forwards, let's just listen to this part. It's important. In case you didn't hear it on Friday, we are going back out on tour. We do not have our on sale date yet, but we can share the cities we're going to. I'm going to go through them really quickly. And if you hear yours, just make sure to pencil it on your calendar and alert your friends and be ready when those tickets go on sale. Starting on October 3rd, Kansas City.

2:37Ben Mandelker: October 4th, Chicago, Illinois. October 17th, Minneapolis. October 18th, Detroit. November 5th, Philadelphia. November 7th, Washington, D.C. November 12th, Dallas. November 13th, Austin. November 15th, Houston. December 8th, Nashville. December 9th, Clearwater, Florida. December 10th, Fort Lauderdale, Florida. January 9th, San Francisco. January 23rd, Salt Lake City. January 24th, Denver. January 27th, Charleston, South Carolina. January 28th, Atlanta. The February 4th, Seattle. February 5th, Vancouver. And the Golden Crappies on February... I'm sorry, no. February 20th, Toronto. February 21st, Boston.

3:15Ben Mandelker: And then February 25th, the Golden Crappies back in New York. So I know that's a lot. But we promise we won't be going through that entire list of cities for the next three months. But probably until the tickets go on sale, we'll be mentioning it here and there. Because we want you guys all to come to our show. We want to make sure no one's like, oh my god, I didn't even know you were coming to my city. So spread the word. Let everyone know. And also, as long as we're here, Ronnie just put out a new newsletter on our Patreon. Patreon.com slash Watch What Crappens. We've got a new YouTube show on our YouTube channel.

3:49Ben Mandelker: So subscribe over on YouTube. It's called What's Your Order? We've got a new episode going up this week with Julia Cunningham. So we're firing on all the cylinders, and we just want you to be part of the fun.

4:01Ronnie Karam: Yeah. We're here. Stay here with us. We're here all the time. So come here. Be with us. Guy, be with us. Let's be together. I slept on, I think, the wrong side of my face or something. my eyes wonky and i've got like a pink spot in between my eyes i don't know why so anybody i don't think i'm diseased huh what does a pink spot mean like a red spot in between my eyes i don't know i don't know what's that was maybe a spot that was dangling from the ceiling and doing twirls a pink spot no that's that's how i imagine i walk around like luann always with my own spot I'm like, hello. Hey, girls. It's me.

4:42Just doing the number.

4:45Ben Mandelker: I have perfect Luann voice for today, actually. I love your 2026, Luann. I'm not able to do it. Not that I can physically do it, but I just enjoy doing classic Luann voice so much that I'm not willing to give it up. Yeah, do your Luann. She does not have many years left with that voice. She is in the croaking stage of her life. And then in 10 years from now, she'll just be like, I am aware. You know, it's going down that path.

5:13Ronnie Karam: And we'll still go see her live. We'll still buy tickets. She'll be singing out of the little hole in your throat like those old anti-smoking commercials where they're like, don't smoke. And then smoke would come out of the little hole in their throat. She'll still be like, hello, Dolly. Oh, hello, Dolly. pink pony club but yeah she's really um she's she's really just she does not give a fuck she'll trash that voice she's putting it in the blender in the morning yeah it's all those high notes the washing machine yeah she said it sounds crazy and i love it hi girls so here we are um the girls today are going to Atlanta and they're going to go to a drag show.

6:01Ronnie Karam: Drag brunch. Wacky. Nothing straight people love more than a drag show. Gay people like it too. I enjoy a good drag brunch as well, but I notice that straight people really love the drag brunch. Yeah.

6:16Ben Mandelker: Yeah. They love it. Well, except for Vicky. Basically.

6:23Ronnie Karam: Gretchen. I wish we could have brought Gretchen. Actually, this would have been a good one for the Orange County. Like, get Lydia back just to be mortified and tell us how the Bible doesn't approve and shit like that. They should have brought Lydia back in her Charlie Chaplin drag. It's still the most horrifying drag in the history of pop culture. They needed to bring her back. She looked like that guy from Beetlejuice. He's like, oh, you know, the Bible really hated, the Bible really didn't like drag queens, but loved adults who married 15-year-olds or whatever the hell. How old was his wife?

6:56Ronnie Karam: Wasn't she like 16 or something? Wait, what? Oh, Charlie Chaplin. Charlie Chaplin's. Yeah. Lydia has no problem with Charlie Chaplin.

7:06Ben Mandelker: I think the point was that she would, I don't think she got to choose Charlie Chaplin. I think it was chosen for her, by the way. Not to, I mean, I don't, we'll have to double check, but I thought the whole thing was that Tamara picked out that outfit for her. And then she's like, what? Wasn't that it?

7:22Ronnie Karam: No, they had to dress in drag. And some people, you know, she just, I think she chose Charlie Chaplin. But I remember she was like, oh, you know, drag queens are against the Bible. I don't believe in this. And I was like, but Charlie Chaplin married two 16-year-old girls, actually. Wow. So, it's interesting where her morals, her moral line fell.

7:45Ben Mandelker: Anywho, that's not that funny. that lydia was um i'm surprised that lydia was not up on her charlie chaplin lure

7:55Ronnie Karam: we've officially given lydia more attention than she deserves and that the show gave her that this reboot yeah i'm telling you girls trip i'm just i'm just looking up her and her in that drag again and it's it's still the photos the photos are just like they're almost i mean like i actually feel like we didn't really appreciate what we had in that moment because it was it was just so deranged it was so didn't we though i feel like we really did appreciate that was one of those things where i don't feel like we didn't enjoy the time we were living it we really did i mean that was crazy Lydia she just is tough it's truly one of the craziest

8:43Ben Mandelker: things Lydia the Charlie Chaplin drag anyway unfortunately that drag was not was not part of this retrospective so everyone's getting ready and Teresa's asking Lisa if she's tired because it's going nonstop and we see a flashback from two days ago and they're at the airport and Luann has Kyle's ticket. And Luann's like, the woman at checkout goes, hey, hi, Kyle. And I go, what? I don't know why we needed a flashback to that story, but that's it. Luann.

9:14Ronnie Karam: That's why I do everything myself. That's why I do everything myself. I've been checking myself. You know what? I go through the security. I say, beep, beep. What's a random check? Pat myself down. Do the whole pat. Get my water. Get on the plane. Go grab myself some peanuts. People complain. I change it to pretzels. What are you going to do? I would do everything myself now.

9:34Ben Mandelker: For a moment, I wondered if they actually had paper tickets. I was like, knowing this cast, they probably would just be walking around with those big floppy paper tickets. But then, you know what? There's no but. I then decided, yes, they probably did have paper tickets. Like the ones you'd get from like STA Travel and, you know, when you're in 2000.

9:55Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I got stuck there. I got stuck with that recently. I was coming and I was trying to do the contactless. What is it called? faceless ID or whatever. I guess you have to have a face. They're like, don't even, you don't even have that in the head. Just get on this plane. When you had enough laser skin resurfacing that you're officially faceless, you're just walking through the ID. Touchless ID. And you were like, here's how to do it. So, you know, you told me how to do it. And I went on and I did it and I filled out all the stuff. And then I went through it and I'm like, no, that's not on your boarding pass.

10:26Ronnie Karam: I was like, but I did the paperwork And they said, you have to go to the front counter to do it. So I went to the front counter and waited in that whole line. And then he was like, no, you do it online. I said, the guy told me to come over here, though. And he just printed out a ticket. And he goes, here. And I said, so is this for contactless ID? And he said, no, this is for the regular ID. I was like, girl, I've got clear and TSA pre. And he's like, you have to do it online. wouldn't that show up on the computer i did do it online but he told me it takes time for it to process no or maybe i bought my ticket before i signed up for the girl i don't know anyway the point is i had to get a paper ticket and i was so embarrassed going through there i was like oh god i actually don't mind my nieces behind me even though they weren't with me i just felt them

11:16Ben Mandelker: being like good uncle how old are you was it like on that thick cardstock with like all that all the things written on it in that one font, that one monospace font that they use. That's like really like, welcome to 19 days.

11:29Ronnie Karam: They haven't changed.

11:30Ben Mandelker: Yeah, because I don't mind like if I have to check a bag and then it spits out a little boarding pass, I'm like, you know, I sort of don't mind this. There's something like really nice about just having this floppy piece of paper with a QR code on it so when you get to the gate, you just show it. You don't have to like open up your phone and fumble or get the thing because you all know the moment that like you get your QR code ready for the scan, like the moment you start to move your phone over the thing, the phone's like, I'm going to go to bed.

11:55Ronnie Karam: I'll hold it open for 20 minutes. And the second I get up there, it turns, it goes black.

12:01Ben Mandelker: And then everyone looks at you like you're the, like, you're the Vicki Gunvalson. I was like, no, I swear I'm aware of QR codes and scanning. Like I know how to do this. It's just that my phone went to sleep right at this moment, you know? I know. So sometimes with the floppy one, you know, it's just easy.

12:17Ronnie Karam: It is. I don't know. It's not, it's not though. Like that's the, the phone's better. But then, of course, the phone goes black, and then you turn it, you flick it back on, and it's like, oh, you must enter your code now for whatever. It's like, now, you must re-enable your phone by doing this code. You idiot! That's what you get for being sleeping in an airline. An airline.

12:40Ben Mandelker: I had a period of time where I thought I was being real clever, where, you know, you can actually do it with your watch. You can get the QR code on your watch, and you can put your hand over it. And I was like, I'm going to do that. I'm going to use the maximum functionality of my Apple Watch. but like literally every time I would do that friends would text me so then like the watch would then become like a text alert and so nothing would scan and then like you know with a watch it's like never easy to clear away alerts like you try to swipe it's like no no try harder no yeah come on bitch shove me shove me out of the way I dare you I'm a notification that won't be cleared and then I have to pull out my phone and I have to do it anyway and everyone's like this stupid person why do you even think you could scan with this wrist I'm like it's a functionality you actually can do it it just so happens that my friend texted me at this moment and you did it you really did it at

13:22Ronnie Karam: first when that first came out you were like you just put your wrist up you're like beep and then walk away it's like what the hell you would do it for apple pay you did it everywhere with your wrist and i was like how do you do that you're like ronnie it's like literally so easy i don't i don't use what i used it one time and i couldn't do it and of course i've like slammed it into the phone thing and scratched my watch ba boom you know that well the thing is you almost always

13:46Ben Mandelker: have to put your wrist into an unnatural position. You can do it very easily at the supermarket with the self-checkout. You double-click the side of your watch, and then Apple Pay comes up, and you skip. But then what happens is you start doing this weird arm thing, and it's not quite low. It's just like it's actually just much easier to pull out your phone and just do that instead. Agreed. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

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15:52Ronnie Karam: All right, so anyway, girls trip. They're in the airport. It's a disaster. And then we see that Lisa is in a different row and everyone's like, oh my God, where's Lisa? This is the very start of Lisa starting to lose it because they're really sending them all day, every day. And every day is packed with events that they have to do. So people are starting to get tired. This is supposedly day three. I don't even know how that's possible. It's got to be later, right? Are they really only on their third day? Because I'm exhausted. I feel like it's been a season. But for them, it's only day three. And Lisa, they're all kind of complaining about being tired.

16:30Ronnie Karam: But we see in the previews that Lisa is finally like an hour late somewhere. And everybody gets pissed. So everybody enjoy Lisa Barlow's final episode. as kind of a hero.

16:41Ben Mandelker: Good graces with this group where they all really like her. So, yeah, so it's non-stop and they're going to Atlanta and they're really excited about it and they had to be up early for glam and Portia's saying the first thing they're going to do is a drag brunch and then they're going to go back to the hotel and have a change and then they're going to go to this alter ego party afterwards and Nini is going to be there. And so we see a flashback to the first week when Portia and Nini had a conversation. So I mean this show really as people have noted extensively, this show is really just like many, many flashbacks strung together with like thin like elements of narrative.

17:27Ben Mandelker: And now they're just doing flashbacks. It just like a fake two weeks ago. It's like they'll, it used to be that they were flashing back 13 years ago. Now they're, now they're just flashing back to those like, you know, remember when they this happened at the beginning of our flashback retrospective. So it's meta flashbacks now.

17:42Ronnie Karam: Remember when Kyle and the WAN switched tickets? Like, hey, that just happened two seconds ago. Yeah, it is that. I thought it was funny that they're doing a drag brunch and then they're doing an alter ego part. Like, aren't your alter egos drag queens? Like, what show am I watching? Also, the drag queens did not do anything for these housewives. I was kind of disappointed in the drag, the drag of this all, the drag of it all.

18:10Ben Mandelker: I just feel like a drag brunch, it's like fun, but I feel like for the show, I would rather a backdrop that would lead to more interaction amongst the ladies because they're just sitting there watching a show and be like, oh my God. And so I just want, I want like more of the interpersonal relationships to develop because I think the best part of this show is seeing some of the friction that they all have because they all have different backgrounds and experiences, obviously. And Vicky being our Debbie Downer of the group and just not meshing with everyone is very funny to me. And so the drag bunch was nice, but I don't know.

18:49Ben Mandelker: It felt like it was material for a trailer.

18:52Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I could have used an hour of the alter ego party where they were just all mixing. So they're talking about this drag brunch and Luann is like, oh, well, for my alter ego, I think I'm going to really take the countess side of myself. Okay, so you're just going to do the same thing. I mean, Luanne is a drag queen already. She really is. It's like Carol said. I hear in the middle of the night, I hear two male voices. One of them was Luanne.

19:26So girls, this is what I'm going to do. Okay, watch. So I won't be like my normal self. Instead, I'll just be walking around being like, do you know I'm a cabaret star? did you know did you know right that's hilarious my alter ego they're like uh yeah that's just who

19:39Ronnie Karam: you are anyway do you remember this is just looking at her like wow you're gonna be the countess that's crazy so you know i'm a you don't want a cabaret star right yeah yeah i've heard i was at the party last night where you ziplined in in a diaper i mean i think it's good that just

20:02Ben Mandelker: just let Luann have herself be her own alter ego because otherwise we might get another problematic Diana Ross wig. And thankfully Giselle is the one who, um, who takes, she claims that one. She's going to be Diana Ross. So Luann has no other choice.

20:16Ronnie Karam: So I'm surprised Luann didn't say

20:18Ben Mandelker: something like been there, done that. I did it better. I'm Aretha Franklin today.

20:29hello everyone ah you may know me as the countess but today you may know me as the queen queen latifah queen latifah de la seps she just had like one of your private dancer your dancer for money she did say she wanted to do some tina turner i got if she had a tina turner wig we don't need another line hero

20:58so honestly like if she had if Luann came dressed up like Tina Turner and Mad Max

21:06Ben Mandelker: I would like to know from the community is that very very problematic because obviously if she wears an afro that's extremely problematic is Mad Max garb still problematic because it's a very funny visual to me and if it is problematic I will accept it and I'm not going to push for it But I would love to know because it would be kind of funny with those big earrings and the big sort of like mullet thing, that mane of hair.

21:32Ronnie Karam: Yeah, the famous Tina Turner. But I think it's the famous Tina Turner look, I mean. But yeah, I think it would still be problematic. And also, you know, she's going to have bronzer on there. What? It's just bronzer. Yeah, that's the thing. I'm not allowed. Two men enter. One man leaves with a cabaret star. Thunderdome. I want to dance with somebody. This goes down the list. She has Whitney Houston's original big tall hair.

22:10Ronnie Karam: Oh my gosh, Luanne. The problem is that she would do it. She probably already came up with all these ideas and was told, no, no, no, no, ma 'am. Wait a second. Wait a minute. I have a good one. I know you shut down all the others. What about I come out as 1996-era brandy? No, Luad, you cannot do that.

22:36Ronnie Karam: Okay, so Giselle is, of course, trying to get people to talk shit at all times. so she's like well we're having a good time as a group but you know there have been some trying times ah so go yeah let me tell you that i love lisa and theresa also that they rhyme i'm an artist you know we're vibing we're making the best of the time and then vicky's like well let's play the quiet game well i don't want to play the quiet game i've got my video a video of myself ziplining in and doing an amazing number and what does she want to do she wants to play the quiet game well i want to so i thought we're having a good time because i was like yeah what are you in kindergarten yeah exactly i mean we're just different it's cultural differences oh now you understand cultural differences right after we've had this diana ross talk yeah seriously um i do i do kind of love the idea of vicky listen to luanne let's be honest probably yammer away about herself and vicky finally be like let's play the quiet game yeah that member in the car they were driving and luann's trying to show a video she's like oh yeah remember my performance five minutes ago let's watch it again someone got it on video she's sitting there and she's singing along to it and teresa's singing along and vicky's like shut up please just stop singing stop let's all just be quiet hey you want to go hang out my room no we're gonna all go to our road rooms okay we're gonna go to our own rooms

24:02Ben Mandelker: for some reason i remember that scene for some reason i thought luan was talking about a different scene that was off camera where vicky did it to her again but yes we're talking about being in

24:13Ronnie Karam: the car she's like vicky's a real asshole but you know that's vicky so then we go to vicky who is uh saying you know luan's so annoying but i've really got to lay off of her you know i i don't want to hear her sing but i still want to hear her sing anymore but she does have a job

24:28Ben Mandelker: so yeah and um so then kyle's like well portia told me that uh that it was just for the drag brunch that we're going to but then i think i saw on tmz or something that nini was going to be showing up with a housewife somewhere so i'm like thinking we're in atlanta i know he's working somewhere but like where is she what i'm friends with her by the way in case i was wondering i'm friends with her yeah um so then lisa's like hey teresa i've been laughing so much this trip I've laughed till I cried Yeah me too Like you know what I notice Like when we're laughing with each other It's like a fresher breath of air It's like a fresher breath of air Yeah you know Like a fresher breath of air You know it's like a whole bunch of fresh That's like a breath but of air you know

25:14Ronnie Karam: And then we see A montage of Teresa's Biggest ding dong hits Yeah like you know I want to make a cookbook Cause like you know it's so it's so hard to get the ingredients this you know like this comment like what the cookbook people are just looking at her like oh jesus why would we sign a deal with this person

25:40Ben Mandelker: selling nine trillion copies or whatever and then she went on to next gen new york city and said she doesn't like to cook um so then everyone's getting ready they get into their cars it's 10 a.m. and Kyle's like I can't believe we're going to a drag show at this hour it's crazy and Phaedra's gonna be at the drag show and then there's gonna be some other surprises and Portia tells us that the girls know that Nini's gonna be at the alter ego party but they have no idea she's gonna be at the drag brunch and they're gonna flip their wigs because Nini started Atlanta and she's the one who brought all of her girlfriends onto the show and like those girlfriends are superstars as well

26:22Ronnie Karam: and then we get michael so about it yeah great yes and of course he's like i've never watched it that uh well i mean how many tv shows can you watch housewives though come on loser you like such a hater vicky in 2009 there were not as many tv shows to watch and it was another housewife show you could have you could have watched atlanta at least back then sorry they can't all be classic matlock you fucking loser who says that like vicky doesn't even understand how problematic she is like of course you don't watch the black show of course and of course you're not going to know who anyone from potomac is yeah can you imagine how she is married to medicine people say i don't understand what does that mean you're married to a hospital like that's Stupid.

27:13Ronnie Karam: What are you married to? Like a chest exam? An x-ray?

27:18Ben Mandelker: Stupid. Literally a show that's truly about people and their jobs. And she's like, what? I don't know. It happens a lot. It's actually very unfortunate. The amount of times people will talk to us like, oh my god, you have a show about Bravo? I love all the house. I watch this one, I watch this one, this one, this one. They're like, oh, what about Atlanta? Oh, I don't watch Atlanta. It's like, it's crazy what people, like, it's like, do you realize how problematic you are? It's fucked up. Right.

27:41Ronnie Karam: the best this world the best of all the housewives at least for a solid seven eight years at least yeah for a while there so um yeah they're all talking about why it's iconic and we see clips from atlanta and stuff like that and um portia says that when she started housewives i was just a baby and i like when we see flashbacks of portia because she does talk like that back then Yeah. She really talked like that. Bye, Ashi. Bye. When they went into that church, and she's like, well, certainly somewhere around here, there has to be a hole for the railroad. They're like, oh, no. Yeah. It's underground.

28:24How is she going to get down there?

28:26Ronnie Karam: Oh, no.

28:27Ben Mandelker: It's not a literal railroad for sure. Yeah. Come on. I do have to say, seeing all these former cast members, you do realize, wow, there was a period of time where Atlanta was just nothing but pure talent. I mean, it was just talent with a grain of salt. Because some of these people I would not say are talented. Kim Zolciak. But Kenya Moore doing Gone with the Wind. Fabulous. Sheree doing the Sheree stuff. you do have the classic Kim clips you have NeNe like Porsche Candy I mean it was watching these clips you're like wow we had it good for a long time and now having just like finished up the Atlanta reunion I think Atlanta's on the upswing I think it's great but when you watch someone like Kelly you're like oh like you are standing in very large shoes ma 'am you need to pull up

29:24Ronnie Karam: well that's her disc for Angela though so you can't say large she has big feet but yeah it's awkward watching Kelly in comparison so then they go to Lips and Lisa's like oh my god are we here wow Lips is in Buckhead I like that even Lisa can get snotty about she can get snotty even about a town she probably doesn't even know

29:47Ben Mandelker: wow Lips is in Buckhead Teresa's like Lips is Buckhead am right Buccaneer? They're like, no. Louie's like, oh, I love a drag show. I love my queens. Did everyone show up here for me? Okay, I'll take the stage. So they go in, and Vicky's like, I mean, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I mean, you've been to one drag show. You've been to them all. So it's like you always know Vicky's going to throw a little bit of acid in there now. So then here comes Nini. She's in her car. She's approaching, and she's saying how like her stomach hurts a little bit because she's a little nervous

30:25Ronnie Karam: nervous to come back yeah um nini i fucking love seeing nini nini just drives in like waving you know it's like to the crowd and everywhere she goes like oh my god standing ovation for nini which i get it but it's funny how you get so famous on these shows like during the drag show So, Teresa's like, oh, yeah? You want to, like, call me a prostitution or something? Blink, blink, blink, blink. And expecting everybody to know all their lines. I don't think the drag queen really even knew her lines. Drag queen's like, shut up. Shut up, lady. Commercials. Here comes one right now.

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32:48Ben Mandelker: So then Portia's talking about Phaedra and frickin' Frack, and they had pajamas together, and all of that. And then Phaedra shows up, and Phaedra and Portia are matching, and they're like, oh my god, this is crazy. We're always matching. It's wild. and then Phaedra sees Luann and goes, oh, it's giving Captain and Janelle a girl because Luann's wearing like a bedazzled, you know, like captain's hat, like sailor hat. She's like, yes, Captain and Janelle. I don't know who those people are, but I know that they're stupid. I'm Captain and Janelle, the one and the only, okay?

33:27Ronnie Karam: Saw the girls gather and laugh and hug. You know, it's entrance after entrance because it's a girl's trip. And then the drag show begins and the host is like, welcome to lips bitch uh what's your name what's your name honey vicky oh vicky what a coincidence i like dicky yeah wait um so

33:57Ronnie Karam: and then i never understood that turtlenecks without sleeves like why would you do that It's stupid. It's just a stupid concept.

34:07Ben Mandelker: So then the drag queen is like, oh, hi Portia. She's like, hey girl, how are you? I'm not a girl, I'm a woman. I'm a lady, bitch. Don't call me a bitch. Call me a hoe. Okay? Do you like to be called a prostitution whore?

34:24Ronnie Karam: What? Did you say prostitution whore? Oh, those are on the streets. Mickey may have a

34:31Ben Mandelker: point here or there.

34:37Ronnie Karam: It wasn't the highest tier. It wasn't the highest tier drag show. Yeah. It's like they kind of got people to play the drag queen. Like, girl, if you're going to be doing a real housewives day at a drag show, first, you have to imitate the house. Not even not the host necessarily, but you at least need to be able to know there are some jokes for them. You know what I mean? Like, you have to know what prostitution whore is. Yeah. So Teresa's like, I never thought that prostitution was going to be so iconic. Michelle Obama just recently said it on a podcast. It was amazing. Now, can someone tell me who Michelle Obama is?

35:18Yeah, it's going to be prostitution. I never knew it was iconic.

35:22Ronnie Karam: It's not. The drag queen doesn't even know what it is. It is iconic, though. But it's sad that it's not iconic enough for a drag queen to know. It's like when you've gotten to the point where Michelle Obama knows who you are, but a drag queen doesn't know who you are. That's a crazy place for housewives to have gone, basically.

35:44Ben Mandelker: I don't know how to explain it. So then Teresa's like, why are these straws so thick? And then the drag queen is like, well, you must not have had a big one in your life. And she's like, but it reminds me of that. It reminds you of the big ones. but it's even bigger even bigger oh okay you don't drink it like this though and then um she starts deep throating this straw and uh tasia is like look at you they out drag queen the drag

36:16Ronnie Karam: queens which is amazing like the drag queen doesn't really even know what to do with her i guess what i'm trying to say is i'm impressed with modern straight people and disappointed in modern gay people. That the straight people know the housewives jokes better than the gay people, you know? Who've come to a crazy place.

36:33Ben Mandelker: The other thing is that like, you know, everyone is in their own different, like their own different verticals of reality TV. And we're in the Bravo vertical. There's also the world of The Bachelor. There's now a Hulu space, there's 90 Day Fiance, and there's drag queen space. And I think one thing that we've discovered is that there's not actually a huge amount of crossover between the drag queen, the drag race community and the Bravo community. So I think what's happening here, and by the way, I don't know if that Tasia necessarily was on drag race at all, but I think what we're seeing here is two different communities trying to commune.

37:10It's going nicely, but you can tell the difference

37:15Ben Mandelker: between a hardcore Bravo star versus someone who's like, okay, cool. Some housewives are coming in. I can make some jokes. I'll do some research. I'll do some jokes. You just can tell when people know and feel the celebrities amongst them versus like, oh, okay, this is cool that they're coming into the club and I'm going to research them and we'll have some fun with them, right?

37:37Ronnie Karam: Right. But they didn't even research them. That was the thing. No one knew any lines or any imitations or anything. And I think what you're saying about the fan crossover is true like we've talked about that for years how it's so crazy that there's like housewives gays and drag race gays and i'm not saying they're the twain shall meet but very rarely do they both yeah we see you know we see it in what we do you know all the time or in gays you know when you're talking to a gay it's like oh yeah i don't watch housewives ew drag race you know and then they'll have like viewing parties of drag race they know every single stuff and we're were obviously Bravo gays.

38:15Ronnie Karam: So I guess it's offensive to me, though, not in the fan aspect, but the drag queen aspect. I feel like Housewives should be a part of drag college. Like, you have to be educated. You can't just get up there and not know Teresa Giudice.

38:32Ben Mandelker: You know, that's nuts to me. I feel like our communities should be more intermingled. I'll always remember the time in, what, like 2018 or so, 17 or 18 um when before leon locken had taken a nosedive we went to the abbey with her and we were there with the abbey but then also some like um some some like drag queens from um uh from drag race were there and we were in one banquette and then the drag drag race stars were in another banquette and i just remember everyone just like cramming to get to the drag race stars and then And it's like, we have, in my mind, I kept thinking to myself, we have a whole ass real housewife here.

39:14Ben Mandelker: And like, no one cares. And that was the moment I realized, oh, there are just like, these, I always assumed that both communities were like very intermixed. You know, it's like all fun gay culture. And I realized like, oh no, if you're, if you're watching Drag Race, you're, you're almost always going to be fully focused on Drag Race. And again, it's like, obviously there are people who are fans of both worlds, but that's when I realized like, oh, people don't have, it's more like people just don't have time. time to immerse themselves in two different universes. It's really, really hard. It's hard to get as encyclopedic about Housewives if you're already doing it for Drag Race.

39:48Ben Mandelker: If you're going to DragCon, it's probably hard to also pivot into the world of Bravo. Yeah, those are my thoughts. Yeah.

39:58Ronnie Karam: So the drag queens do a show, and they're supposed to be each of the ladies, but I give give it a five no like i said no one does really lines or you know lip syncs to anything they just kind of play voiceover clips while people do a walk looking somewhat ish like the housewives uh but the housewives love it and um luann's like oh it's really fun to me when people come up to me and they quote my lines not drag queens because apparently they don't know any but i you know i i have t-shirts okay even my mug shots that's one of my best sellers um and so we see a lot of this

40:41Ben Mandelker: different uh drag queens come out they're all in fun you know tribute looks uh the phaedra drag queen was maybe not the most successful not even close even the house the housewives were in pretty

40:56Ronnie Karam: good pretty good humored about all of it like they were loving all of it you know it's like someone in kind of a blondish wig it's theresa like oh my gosh that must be theresa how hilarious but phaedra wasn't even close phaedra was like i've never worn anything like that no no no i know um and then we and then it's like it seems like it's over but there's one

41:19Ben Mandelker: more clip we hear i said what i said and they're like oh my god is it nene is it nene is it nene and then like nene comes out and like this she's sort of like she didn't sort of like a like a a cocoon of something or another and then of feathers like feather fans and they like open up and it's nini and then of course kyle jumps up from her chair and runs up on stage and gives her a hug i was like that is so kyle richards to be the first one to to run and embrace publicly the fan favorite the one that's been getting all this press that everyone's loving for her to sort of like announce visually like i know her she's my friend she's mine actually i like her more than

42:00Ronnie Karam: like we're actually yeah we're we're actually og together so you know i got it right i've been pretty much yeah i got we're as famous as each other i thought that too when she ran right up there i was like well maybe veeney has prepared something you know it turns out she really didn't

42:18Ben Mandelker: but uh yeah kyle jumped her but like you don't like also why are you running onto a stage to hug anyone like she's on stage she's doing a bit like she's doing something so like kyle was like no everyone needs to know that i knew her first and i knew her longest i mean i just thought it was so obnoxious i couldn't stand it kyle's the sort of person that if she were ever um uh opening an envelope on an award show lol she never will but if she were she'd be like and the winner

42:49Ronnie Karam: for best actress goes to my friend joan allen my good friend my dear friend you know she's like so the show ends they all go to the table to chat and um me and he's like well i met the Phaedra impersonator. And Phaedra's like, oh, God, I said Lord Jesus. But she's like, what is that, her attorney outfit? That hot pink thing?

43:21Ronnie Karam: Yeah, they hated it. So they make small talk with Nini, but basically just ask her if she's nervous. And she said, yeah. And Kyle's like, oh, my God, I was nervous, too. I mean, I got choked up. Look at me. I was crying. Like, I felt things. Nini came out. Was anyone else crying? Because I was crying. I was crying. I felt it. We're close. We're like this. We're like sisters.

43:40Ben Mandelker: Oh my God. Like I know that I'm seeing that Nini's talking to all the other people. I'm going to sit on her lap just to really make sure people see that I'm like even closer with Nini than people can realize. Yeah. Nini was like the first housewife of any franchise that I became friends with. Okay. Like I sort of invented Nini if you think about it. And like Nini and I've had like lunches and dinners and like we've gossiped and shared private things with each other. And like, we've just always had each other's back. And I'm just like, really, really missed her. I don't, I don't doubt that they know each other and they're friends, but like since when did but like since when was it at this level in this depth like you never had her on to beverly hills you never had her anywhere like and now all of a sudden kyle is like the biggest nini

44:19Ronnie Karam: fan and friend of all time we're basically about friends uh so they ask her if she's missing the show and how it's been being off the show and nini said that at the beginning she was really happy to be gone but um then she was like but wait how are they how are they doing a show without me like what the hell? Like, how is this still going on? And Vic is like, yeah, you feel left out. You feel left out. I totally get that. I did a Kyle lick. You feel left out. I get it. I get it. And Nini says, you start feeling really weird. This is my show. Oh, by the way, Nini, I just wanted to say, you're welcome.

44:56Ronnie Karam: You're welcome for me building a show for you to have come back to. Thank you.

45:02Ben Mandelker: And Portia says that when she left, she thought she was just going to be done with the housewives, and wanted to see what life would be like outside the camera. And she got peace, but then she also became protective of her peace. It's that way when she went back on camera, she was like, so if we're going to talk about something and we're dealing with it, it's got to be some real shit, which is why I made America sit through a fake love triangle between Mike and Sway this entire season. Congratulations you've reached the end of part one of a two-part recap for part two go look for the recap that says part two see you over there suckers watch what crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors ain't no thing like alice and king our way is the amber way it's the foster and the furious it's amanda foster it's always automatic with ashley auto put your hands together for Carly Clapp.

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