#3577 RHONY S16E6 Part Two: The Ex Friend Files

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1:08Watch what crappens! Watch what crappens! Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens? Watch what crappens! Watch what crappens! Who cares what happens when there's so much that crappens? Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. And without further ado, let's get right back into the recap. um so size like well i feel great today thank you i'm just trying to understand where she's coming from and daisy's like well i mean i don't know si you're just being a lot right now she's like i want to know about affiliation so carol's like but we shouldn't talk about this we should be talking about why under two administrations the department of justice the fbi never investigated in any of the men that's what i'd be talking about if i had a teenage daughter do you remember what your conversations were like there was something about girls in it like i can't wait to see all the girls or something along those lines and then this is where we see the email and this is where jillen says like where are you there had better be a lot of sucking up this week because i have a whole a whole new bunch of friends even a girl that i like very much and will be all too happy to step in and replace you as the chick i most like to hand hang hang with he he he by the way spelled out he comma he comma he i mean this woman is a lunatic uh gotta gotta go my boyfriend is on the phone do you think i'm part of an international sex trafficking ring and she's like i don't know i'm asking you don't know wait wait you don't know like you know we're having a girls trip now i mean i'm sure i texted aaron saying i don't know i can't wait to see the girls this weekend this is normal stuff when you're girlfriends with somebody that you barely know and have barely talked to and hardly even know so the girls are not the girls they're just friends that they haven't you have in common it's like yeah the girls are not the 14 year old girls like well i just want to know what's going on like what's your affiliation just like you said jelena whatever you you could like pick her out 10 people in the room you wouldn't you wouldn't think that you would do this and carol's like well how do i know i don't know your background either how do i know you're not a predator and so i was like uh yeah please don't put me into this and that's a weird defense too it's like imagine being on the stand like did you kill your husband well how do i know that you didn't kill your husband uh how do i know you've never killed anybody it's a weird time for a you are moment it really is so size like well i'm talking about you we're not talking about me no i know but you know i just met you like how do i know that you're not a murdering sex trafficker well you know you're the one who's in the files not me it's like well maybe you just don't know it yet that's my point this is the story as old as time everyone remembers when Abraham himself wound up in the email files of a famed predator.

4:29Stay all as old as time. People do not present themselves to everyone as they are, especially if they're involved in some criminal fucked up behavior. Yeah, maybe you're still in those files and they just haven't gotten to your page yet. You know, there's a lot of emails in there.

4:49jillin just being like hey did you hear about this great influencer her name is side of silva gotta check out her stuff wait a second now how'd i get into it well i think she thinks i'm guilty of something yeah well i don't buy it and i'm not supposed to say that i'm supposed to keep that to myself but i ain't buying it well first of all when jeffrey epstein who god just learned that name when he was arrested a couple years ago i thought good fuck him like he got what he deserved and then size like well why would you say that about someone you didn't know then and check well because like a lot of young girls i had a situation where i was sexually assaulted in college and side just keeps a straight face i was like sorry to hear that it's right to hear that so carol talks about how it was her professor and uh it was a celebrated professor and um you know this is a professor who had like lots and lots of friends and they never knew that he was going around assaulting young students.

5:45Welcome to the fucking patriarchy. So Daisy's now very upset because Daisy, by the way, exactly right, welcome to the patriarchy. Daisy says, you know, poor Carol, she has to bring up such a disgusting painful time in her life just to justify herself to sigh. And she's like, you know, I know sigh is very blunt, but nobody should be treated like this. I didn't know we had a fucking federal prosecutor on this trip. And Carol's like, well, it does shake me to think that I knew someone and would even like call her a friend kind of that then 20 years later turned out to be a monster um and she's like in my on my wikipedia it's always going to be a footnote okay well way worse things have happened to people in this situation than it being on your footnote of your wikipedia i don't know carol she's not doing great with this i have to say like she knows it's coming She's the one who brought it up so it could be the conversation.

6:41She could get ahead of it, get it out of the way. And I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I don't – like I said earlier, I don't necessarily think she was trafficking people. But I think there's a certain amount that rich people let each other get away with until it's called out publicly as being wrong. Like the Weinstein stuff, people are like, oh, yeah, it's just how he was. And it wasn't until people were like, no, that's not okay. That's just how it is. That's crazy that everyone's like, oh, yeah, it's not okay. I think that people just let rich people get away with a lot of shit. People also just don't want to – they just don't want to get involved in situations.

7:25That's why you have teachers and priests or whatever where people will say, oh, that person is a little – he likes them a little young. People will make jokes like that all the time about certain people out in the community, right? And then it's like, oh, then it turns out they were doing horrific things. And that's the moment where people say, well, that's terrible. They should lose their job. It's like, yeah, but you're being coy about them all this time. Do you know what I'm saying? And so it's like what you're saying. And sometimes people kind of turn a blind eye because I think they just don't want to deal with it.

8:00They don't want to create a stir. They don't want to create a mess. Suddenly they're involved in it. And it's just easier to go along and have cocktails. And then when it comes to light, then all of a sudden everyone's outraged. Yeah, and to have no idea. To say, like, I had no idea. I mean, the first time I met this lady was on the phone. She called, found out I was single, and set me up with creepy Prince Andrew. It's like, ooh. I mean, there were hints, you know? Yeah. There were hints. It's not great. That were coming. Not great. So Haley's like, yeah, you know, this is going to be behind her name forever.

8:37And that's something that's hard to accept it. You just have to, you know, you're like, look at me being splashed all over the tabloids. Kate and John plus the eight, you know? It's ruined my life. You want to talk about a footnote on your Wikipedia? What about having eight children I never raised? What about that? Listen to my barrettes. Listen to my barrettes. Daisy's like, not to be disrespectful or to discredit what you went through, because I cannot imagine. But this is a different story. And Haley's like, are you kidding me? You're saying that John and Kate plus eight is not at the same level of an international sex trafficking scheme that may take down full on governments?

9:20Are you kidding me? I did like that Daisy was like, okay, seriously, this one's not about you, Haley. Because every episode, she's like, the trauma, the trauma I went through with John and Nate plus Kate. It's like, yeah, you don't get the John plus eight plus Kate or whatever the fuck right now, okay? And she's like, first of all, how fucking dare you? I'm trying to relate. Daisy goes, nobody knows who they are, okay? Get a more famous thing to be traumatized about. Your people aren't famous enough to complain about every single episode. Gen Z people do not know who these people are, okay? And Cy's like, yeah, but I do think that there's something that she dealt with, so, you know.

10:02And Daisy's like, I know, but, like, you know, she gives it life. She always brings it up. Like, you give it life, Hayley. That's why the story keeps going. So Hayley's like, like, Daisy, I want my lashes done later, so I'm not going to tell you to shut the fuck up. I'm just going to stare at you really hard right now.

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12:57Higher app engagement was associated with greater weight loss at 16 weeks. So now they decide to reset. some people are going to go lay by the pool and all that. Cy and Haley go to their room, and they're talking about that conversation. And Haley's like, I can't. For her to tell me I talk about John Gosselin all the time, it honestly pissed me off so much. It reminds me of this time my mom made me date John Gosselin. Ruins my life. You know what? Listen, at the end of the day, you get nothing for nothing. And I feel like she tried to discredit what you've gone through. She's like, yeah, she's never been in the tabloids.

13:37She's never been on it, okay? The only thing she's been in is Martha Stewart's makeup artist. Bitch, you don't know. As Tupac once says, it follows and it sticks. And when she was talking to me, I wanted to say, you're fucking dumb and stupid, Daisy. I love that this is the takeaway from this discussion that the internet has been waiting for. Like, what does Carol have to say about being in the Epstein files? And the discussion is, she doesn't know what it's like to have a paparazzi chase you down. because he dated John Gosselin? She doesn't know. So at the pool, Carol comes up and she's like, is it too early for tequila?

14:13It's only 1222. Can people who wear tube socks as underwear drink tequila at noon? And Daisy comes out and Daisy does have the tequila. So the answer is it's not too early. And Daisy's like, wow, Carol, your boobs look great. what's going on with him yeah i turned 50 and they just popped right out

14:41i didn't know that happened i mean it happens to guys for sure yeah that might have been growing for a few years yeah uh so then daisy is eating in her confessional and i'm only pointing that out because it seems like she doesn't think this is going to be used. It seems like, okay, you know what, Daisy? Take a little break and eat something. So what have you had done? She's like, oh, yeah, everything. My face, my boobs, my kinkles, my legs, my vagina. My vagina. I call them a vagina. I don't know. My tummy's next. Yeah. So then Carol, we go back, and Carol's like, well, Daisy, I'm glad that you're here alone.

15:23Can I ask you something? Because I feel like you know Cy a long time. And she was very, very, what's the word? I know. She came in hot for you. And she could have asked the same questions with just a beat down, you know? And sometimes she does it to me. But I know her so well. And I know that's just her delivery. She's a real ride or die friend. But you got to crack through a lot of layers. A lot of layers. A lot of really uninteresting, boring layers. She's like a creme brulee. You know, you got to crack the top, except you don't really want to eat what's under it. In this case, you just get to Cy.

16:00You get to more Cy. You know, it's why people don't order her for dessert. And Carol's like, well, I guess I'm just surprised because Cy, out of all of you, she's had a pretty colorful past, right? Well, what does that mean? Yeah. I don't know what that. What did Cy do? She worked at Scores? I don't know. And Carol's like, yeah. I mean, Cy's rumors that she kind of hints at was that she, and it was through her first couple of seasons, was that she was working at scores. David was coming into scores. David was married. She starts hooking up with this married guy supposedly for his money because he was, like, rich or whatever.

16:39So that's all the gossip I've ever heard about Cy. but how in the world are you going to compare that to being in the epstein files that's weird and that's not that's it's not often that i stand up for psi but i felt like that was pretty uncool to yeah suggest that psi has had anything close to that come up in her history it's weird yeah i wasn't sure really what she was implying by that but yeah it felt like it felt weird so aaron show Hi, everyone. Fan favorite Aaron's here. Hi. Who wants to take shots of Mezcal? It's this really cool drink that I introduced to America. Okay. Who wants Mezcal?

17:20It's like tequila. Kind of invented it. It's really delicious. So, and then everyone shows up. And Daisy is, there's an awkward moment with Daisy inside. Daisy just sort of like staring at Cy. Like with a smile. like, I'm about to say something really mean to you soon. Do you want to ask me what I'm going to say? Because I'm going to say it. She's like, you're in a better mood, Si. She's like, what? Earlier. I wasn't in a bad mood, okay? What are you talking about? You're the one who said you're coming in hot. She's like, but you were. She was trying to talk about something serious. Okay? Yeah, well, okay.

17:59Well, I had questions about something serious. We are talking about a fucking puppy party. All right? I've got a daughter. She's like, well, I know. But you know your delivery. Your delivery's hard, Cy. Okay? It's very hard. She was talking about royalty. It wasn't delivery. It was a journal, okay? It was questions. I have questions. Yeah, but your delivery is just, it's strong. It's a strong delivery. And so Erica is like, you know, it's really rich of Daisy to be sitting here lecturing Cy on manners considering she's been talking shit and complaining since the moment we stepped into my house.

18:32And Daisy's been a hypocrite. Martha would be way nicer and like complain way less than Daisy. which is telling okay Carol was I offensive earlier? Carol's like um well yeah it was it was offensive to Carol she's like well I was just taking it back no it was Cy I'm telling you she's like well I'm sorry but is someone in our circle it's something that's serious and I want to know about it you know I understand and Daisy's like I understand that but like it was your delivery Cy well who the fuck are you a teacher? I don't need you to tell me about how to behave I have good fucking delivery, you fucking bitch.

19:10Daisy's like, okay, well, you keep acting like that. I will. Well, you know what? And people are going to have people not like you. Oh, yeah? Who doesn't like me? Who doesn't like me? Raise your hand. Raise your hand right now. You know what? I feel like you've got something going on with you anyway. Even at the Passover, you are making little dicks coming for me. Coming to me. And then we see that, which was true. But they were kind of going at each other through that whole thing. They were. Although we saw a dig that I don't think originally was not in the original episode where Daisy is like, everyone's at the table.

19:45And Daisy's like, well, guys, we don't have enough wine. Thanks to Cy, who didn't bring any fucking wine. I was like, oh, so this is where it started. Cy was supposed to bring wine to the Sater and she didn't bring the wine. And now there's not enough booze for the big shoot, which means it's going to be risks being a dud for production. And now Daisy's really pissed. And that's where all the bad blood started. Yeah, in that episode, we just saw Daisy. I don't remember the wine specifically, but I remember Daisy being like, well, it was so nice of everybody to bring something except for Cy, of course.

20:15And then we just see Cy walking like, hey, how you doing? Hi, guys. So back to present. Cy's like, clear the air, baby. Well, you never defended me. And these fucking girls were coming. Defended you about what? Talking about my popcorn ceilings. Oh for Christ's sake You've been talking about your popular corn ceilings For years you've been making fun of Come on And Jessa goes God the fucking popcorn ceilings again As if Jessa wasn't the one who first Pointed it out So Sai is like I mean it looks like shit And you laugh about it It's like fine but you don't let anyone else talk It's like okay go Tell me about popcorn ceilings And why they're wonderful I would never let anybody talk shit about you Like except for me Like you're my protector in this group And you're the first person I would look to If somebody was saying something mean to me She's like well I don't think you need me to rescue you But you could have said Oh guys her apartment's so cute I love being in her apartment But I don't love being in your apartment Okay Your apartment sucks That was a great side moment There was something so wonderful because like how many times have you just wanted to say that to certain people like i don't like going to your house she's like i want to spend time with you but i don't want to go to your apartment your house sucks and it's funny because everybody else is tiptoeing around the popcorn ceilings like oh my god we would never make fun of your popcorn ceilings had we known oh my god how could you make fun of popcorn ceilings and so it's like your popcorn ceilings suck okay they're ugly your apartment sucks which is funny because i think actually daisy's apartment looks really cozy and nice but they're like we fucking hate your apartment i want to see you why i want to see your fucking stupid pop with popcorn ceilings and mouse holes in the wall for the mice to come in so she's like okay look i apologize if you think i don't have your back because i do and i just didn't realize that that particular popcorn ceiling hurt your feelings in that way i think look guys um aaron here and i think when you're like on a level of friendship with someone you always max out and what aaron doesn't realize is sai is about to turn to her and go and you and you so sai's like You know what?

22:46Funny that you say that. Which is also funny that I say funny that you say that. Because nothing you ever say is actually ever very funny. Hello, Alfredo. Thank you, Alfredo. So, Aaron's like, what's that supposed to mean? Well, I have told you very intimate things. Who have you told about the separating of me and my husband? Abe. Other than Abe. Which, by the way. Nobody. I don't think we should say other than Abe. I think, like, Aaron telling Abe, like, there's a perfectly reasonable, like, logic that Abe gossiped to someone, too. Abe the babe, you know? He could have said something. Abe may have told someone who then told Jenna, and then Jenna, like, that person may have been, like, it came from Aaron, right?

23:35Because it was Abe as an extension. Yeah, I just, Aaron, I don't think is a good friend. and obviously Aaron talks behind everybody's back. So I don't want to stand up for Aaron. But I also think Sai was probably like, I'm moving into this new place. I don't even want David here. Fuck David. We're not getting along. I just don't see Sai keeping this huge secret. I guess, again, I don't see why it's that big of a deal. I agree. I mean, I see why she's upset. I can also see why Aaron just telling someone like, oh yeah, I think Sai and David are like on the outs. Like, I can see how, like, she probably didn't think, like, that was going to be such a big deal, especially if it was, like, not someone on the TV show, you know?

24:17I mean, I don't want to defend her. Yeah, so Aaron's like, well, but then who else did I tell then? Like, I can't think of anybody that I would have told. She's like, well, I got a text from Jenna. Fucking all people, Jenna, checking in on me. Well, I did not text Jenna. And I said, Jenna, thank you. I'm sure you've seen the news all over the place. And she said, actually, I have no prior to the news coming out from me. She said, I knew that you and David were separating. And I said, did Aaron tell you? And she said, not directly. Well, I did not tell her. And this is where Aaron, Aaron's, because she's not saying that you told her.

24:51She's saying you somebody, she just clearly said indirectly. And Aaron's like, I did not tell her. And now Aaron for the next three weeks is going to be like, how dare she accuse me of telling Jussel? I never told Jussel. By the way, can we? Jenna, sorry, Jenna. I never told Jenna. Can we also have a moment to reflect on Jenna being messy? Because why would you say, oh, I already knew? That's sort of a weird thing to say to someone, right? I mean, I don't know. Maybe the context of the conversation, it made sense. But I guess if Sai was saying, I would like to know what the exact exchange was.

25:29Why would Jenna say, I already knew about this? I didn't hear it from the news. I already knew. It's like a weird flex. Well, in my mind, that's not a fact. Jenna was saying, hey, I hope you're doing okay. I've heard you're going through stuff. And so I said, oh, what, you read in the paper? She's like, oh, no, it's in the paper? I already knew. I just heard it from someone. Did you hear it from Aaron? Oh, no. Well, I mean, kind of. Someone who knows Aaron. Well, goddamn Aaron. But it's also like, well, if you've heard of this a long time ago, why didn't you text me then? I've been going through it for a long time.

26:03What the hell? I'm just saying if Sai is going to press for answers about the Epstein files, I'm going to press for answers on the Lions text messaging just so I can get the proper context. Because in my mind, it sort of came off like Jenna was being kind of messy. But I can totally see it being a benign thing where she's like, actually, I hate to break it to you tone. So I just would like to know. I'd like to know. Well, hopefully you'll get that information one day Someday It would be nice to know if Jenna's just being messy, you know So, um, Cy's like, well, wait, no, but who's the other? No, so now we're playing fucking Game of Telephone Wait, she said that someone told her that I told Cy It's not gossip, this is my fucking life But do they even have the facts?

26:57You know what? Abe must be fucking the shit out of your mouth, fucking Aaron, because your lips are so goddamn loose, you're queefing everybody's fucking business. I enjoyed the line. It felt rehearsed. It felt like she spent all morning coming up with that. But you know what? I liked it anyway. I didn't. And so everyone thought it was really try hard. It was try hard. It was try hard. I like that she tried hard. I like that she tried hard.

27:28so carol's like well by the way if a guy has a small penis sometimes it happens too it's just air okay there deal with it justice for queens um so sigh is saying well well she told me and everyone's like i don't believe it she's like well how would she know that information she's like i don't know but it wasn't for me it was so disappointing and uh she's like i'm telling you it didn't happen you don't believe me she's like that would be something that you would say something like that she's like let me do you not believe me you don't believe me then we are not friends that's it the friendship is over you will no longer see me in two shirts at once but this is where i'm like well aaron's lying because aaron says well i don't even know what she's talking about like i literally never talked to jenna about size doors that's not the point and you know that's not the point that's what she does she misleads she's like see i'm not lying i never talked to janna oh yeah so uh aaron is of course confronted so now she's gonna go cry and sit in a corner and call abe but before she does it yes i was gonna say something that aaron said that did not sit well with me was aaron saying like oh my god i'm tired of these accusations i'm tired of sign lashing out all the time she's so angry like go to therapy i was like you know let's like settle down on the microaggressions here ma 'am like oh especially aaron like you haven't learned you haven't learned from the whole uba thing like seriously like that you've already been through this aaron like my god yeah i was like for fuck's sake yeah i'm like i just didn't love her saying it that way um maybe maybe i'm being maybe i'm being sensitive but i was like that did not land right for me right there aaron you know no aaron's already been through this and she should know she should fucking know better that's crazy yeah she should commercials here comes one right now he lurks in shadow he slips into dreams he casts no reflection audible presents bram stoker's Dracula, a full cast audio thriller starring Ella Pernell from Fallout as Mina Harker, Jonathan Bailey from Wicked as Dracula, and an A-list cast including Maggie Gyllenhaal, The Dark Knight as Van Helsing, Amy Lou Wood from The White Lotus as Lucy, David Johnson from Industry as Dr.

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32:17So Aaron's like, we're done, sign. She's like, then let's be done because who can trust you? Who can trust you? So they go back and forth a little bit on that. And Sai's like, you talk my business. She said horrible things about your husband, Jaisal. So it's starting to make me feel like, how can any of us trust you, Aaron? Okay, well, now Sai's going to do the thing where it's like she was fine with whatever Aaron said until she's mad at Aaron. So it's not really sticking up for Jaisal because you're just going to use this thing as revenge. So I'm not really on Sai's side either. I mean, Sai's an asshole too.

32:50they both were going to weaponize this moment because earlier in the episode we saw that erin said sai said the worst possible things about jessel's husband so they both are just like playing chicken on who's going to say it first so yeah so uh uh erin's like we're done we're done and hayley tells us when erin gets called out she plays the victim she's it's very kate goslin of her you know that's erin's go-to and sai you know she's you know is not in the wrong no so to make this whole like oh size the villain like enough enough yeah uh so now everyone's just quiet and sabrina the lady who works there is like anybody want shots and so everyone's like i'm not gonna take a shot i'm upset i'm like out of here you guys are like so mean i'm like the meanest thing that's like literally anybody's ever done did i just step on glass i just stepped on glass in her pool you're not allowed to invoke any lennox okay you are not at that level you're i rebuke this but yeah she does step on broken glass and uh now she's bleeding and uh she's literally bleeding and it's like not good and they're still just like they don't care jess's like what was she saying about my husband though what'd you say but you know what it was despicable it was despicable and you gotta ask her that i do not want to repeat i will i will in about two minutes i'll make my gay do it but i'm not gonna do it right now you ask her i don't want to say it i don't even want to say these words they're so repulsive they're hideous oh god once these words come out i could never be viewed the same way but what i'm about to say about your husband so now erica goes to check on eric erin and uh erin's like i'm not okay it's like so fucking mean.

34:37I'm really getting tired of this shit, okay? I'm the easy one to pick on. It's mean. America's like, yeah, I'm checking on her because I like her. And two, I don't want her to sue me. It's a lot of Taco Bell that's going to cost. That bloody foot's going to cost me a lot of Taco Bell. It's going to be about 900 ,000 gorditas. I think Erin just doesn't do well in hot tubs on vacation because she also had a huge fight in the hot tub i think her first season with like uba and bryn she she just has to stay away from them so erica is uh like uh yeah i'm like checking it on her and aaron's like i mean she is not a nice person i am done i am really done oh my god i am done thank you for coming over oh my god cackling hags so sai who is accusing aaron of exactly what she's doing right now.

35:32It's like, she's full of shit. She keeps all that shit in her arsenal. Tools, tools. And then she takes the fucking tools and then pshh. And anything you say confidentially, forget it. It's going to come out. But that's literally what you're doing right now. You're not wrong. You're just a hypocrite. Yeah. So Aaron's like, I can't trust this girl. I can't. I can't trust her. It's too much. So they like tend to her foot and everything. And then Cy's like, I'm sick of this shit. I'm sick of the lion I'm sick of keeping the trust of someone who I think is my fucking friend And is not I don't like it anymore So Aaron's like oh wow You know what everyone should just be scared to have a friend like that And Erica's like okay well I think she would have pulled up receipts if there were receipts Yeah but there are no receipts I never said anything So Daisy is saying You know in sci-fi She's got this little vein that comes out And then she just keeps coming at you and coming at you You know and Aaron's strong but you know it's really humiliating when it happens to you popcorn ceilings so jessica goes up to she's like goes up to erin's like um hi so this is actually separate i was gonna do this scene in the pool but like this all happened so just wanted to say from me to you um i'm so sorry that we made that joke like we never meant to like do that like about like you know the insurance fraud and everything and erin's like crying like and she's like yeah i never meant to hurt you blah blah blah um it was like something fleeting and like i don't know what you said about my husband but like the gag really is i really don't care what you guys say about poverty i mean it's poverty for crying out loud literally this is a man who spends his days tracking down a fried chicken like to expect much from him there's it does could it even really get much worse i think at this point any rumors you have would actually improve him so like really Don't worry about it.

37:24So, again, sorry about the insurance. And I don't know. You're sort of gross right now. I'll talk to you later. Yeah. And she's like, but that is a deep-seated reason that I feel the way I do about you. But we'll talk about that later. We'll talk about that later. Okay. But I hope you're okay. She walks away. And Carol's like, well, the jury's out on side. She weaponizes rumors. And she weaponized rumors and slander against me. And now she's doing it against Aaron. Oh, yeah. uh erin talking shit about her divorce exactly the same as the epstein files so now um they're gonna go play tipsy tennis um and hayley's like ah this tension i just want to go to my room and take an edible i'm a wacky marijuana user do people know about marijuana it's this drug that makes you high i've been doing it i've been doing grass it's really hilarious you want to do some grass so Jussel and Cy okay so now Jussel and Cy stop on the little pathway on the way and Cy's like I'm about to freak out she talks shit about everyone and you know what you know what fuck you fuck you Jess is like oh my god so then Aaron and Daisy and Carol are talking and Aaron's like the way she smoked me and that's like not normal for a friend to speak to you like that she genuinely like very she's like genuinely very upset about the divorce and the way it got out in the public and everyone's like i didn't send it to the pomlac which again is words words matter she's saying i didn't put make it public so she's like i have been so there for her with this situation with david and i don't think i've told anybody honestly i mean just abe and maybe uba and Brian, I don't know, Jill Zarin, I think I told.

39:16There was a person at Starbucks. I mean, really, no one, if you think about it. Is it my fault that Katie Couric lives down the block from me? Well, was this even a huge secret? No. Did she not talk to everybody about this? Like, people, no. She's talking about it. And Daisy's like, no, no. You know, nobody knew. I'm surprised you knew. Like, nobody knew what was going on with them. And so Aaron asked Carol if she knew. And Carol's like, well, I heard about it indirectly from someone who knew. See, why am I being blamed? So Aaron's like, does she think that nobody knows about her divorce? She thinks I'm the only one who knows about this and that it didn't circulate anywhere before it hit TMZ?

40:01I know everything. It doesn't mean I'm spreading all of it. I just happen to be friends with a lot of people. And Carol says, listen, New York is an island. which I thought was hilarious because it's literally more than an island. Like this is the biggest grievance that people outside of Manhattan have, I feel like, which is that people in Manhattan are like, New York famously is just a small island and across the bridges is just a foggy land of people who look with envy trying to get over to this precious real estate. It's a small, small city on a small, small island. It is, no? people hear things well but new york city is like in the bronx and yeah but she said new york city she said new york is an island no i know but that's what's so funny is that like she just erases all the outer boroughs well yeah that's how la people do with the valley they're like what la right here right here this little this little square miles like la is this vast place.

41:07I mean, I was a borough person when I lived in New York. I lived in all the boroughs but Manhattan. I guess I'm just used to it. I would be like, hey, we're in the city too. It's like, no, you're not. Queens, Brooklyn, Staten Island. Well, actually, I didn't live in the Bronx, so I'm a liar. But you know what I mean. I get it. I just bow my head and say, you know what? I pay my rent. I pay my rent.

41:33Listen, by the way, if you're in LA, wouldn't you also want to erase where Jax Jax lives? Like, I mean, it's like, sorry to all the innocent people around it, but like, yeah, it's like, we don't want to claim Jax Taylor or any of the acreage around him. No, I live here too. And trust me, you have terrible people on the other side of the hill as well, sir. Both sides. Both sides of terrible people. That's fair. That's true. Okay. Just a joke. So, Psy, whatever. So, Psy is talking to Jaisal outside still and she's like and and she's you know what she said it again in front of chris my makeup guy so you know what i said you're gonna tell everybody's business and that's when it was out there and i was like you know what you really think it's me and yes i do think it's you because they're saying such fucking despicable things about everybody else and why are you you know what i'm calling chris i'm calling chris right now and so she calls her guy her glam guy and she's like chris i need you to tell me right fucking now well we were a bravo con we went to dinner with erin remember that he's like uh yeah did she not talk something despicable and disgusting about fucking jessel's husband uh yeah she said uh i know she's not happy with her husband and i know for a fact that he's oh my god he's about to say the word it's disgusting i hope they blurt it out as television people have children gay no the despicable word has been aired on television we're never going back the standards are are irrefutably lowered for generations to come jessel just starts kind of laughing she's like uh-huh yeah and as soon as she said it si said it's not okay to out someone if that were the case which by the way si is the one doing right now on national television through another game and then acting like she's so above it all You are the one outing somebody on national television, ma 'am.

43:27That is so, so bad. And she's like, and she said, I have proof. And she said something about a gym that he goes to. And she knows someone that goes to his gym. And Jaisal's like, he doesn't go to a gym. Have you seen Povet? Have you seen him? He has the dad bod. And Sia's like, well, she told Chris that Povet is gay and got caught at Equinox. Now, one thing I don't do is fucking lie. I don't do that. And Jess was like, he doesn't go to Equinox. I mean, listen, this girl has so many skeletons in her fucking closet. She needs to watch her fucking back. So they hang up. By the way, congratulations to Chris.

44:09I feel like that's the dream of any Glam Squad member. Like, I think I feel like half the reason to join a Glam Squad is for that moment you get called upon. Like to enter the witness stand on a Real Housewives show. Like, tell us the truth. What happened? And it's so rare when the glam squad person gets to speak up and be like, this is what I heard. So he really hit the lottery on this one. Congratulations.

44:33So now it's tipsy tennis time. And they have gigantic oversized tennis rackets. And they have to hold a drink in one hand and play tennis with the other. And it's just all fun until Psy hurts her ankle. And so they're like, oh, no, Psy. and so they they airlift size like should i be airlifted and erica's like oh my god what do we do now now there's two people that can sue me here daisy's like oh now you're gonna need to call a private plane for us finally erica because someone's injured yeah it was very like survivor injury so i was like please tell me i can still be in the game please don't take me out of the show come on i work so hard i waited 20 years to be on this show it's like uh we're just gonna give some ice and you can sit over there it's okay you'll be okay and erin's the only one that doesn't come console her she's just like looking over like no one came to me when i got my my foot mean everyone's mean that is probably what she's gonna say i had believe i was bleeding out i was there bleeding out and no one lifted a finger but also to be fair while she's bleeding out a lady came out of nowhere with two trays of food floating in the pool so like if you're gonna decide between between Aaron's bloody foot and some free food.

45:50Free food and food's going to win. It's classic. Like, if you're in an emergency situation, you are not going to get rescued. Like, you'll call 911 and the ambulance guys, if you're next to a burrito shop, they're going to eat the burrito. They're just going to leave you bleeding on the sidewalk. Yeah. Exactly. That's where it ends. That's where the episode ends. That's the end. Yeah. Yeah. It's a... I don't know. I don't love this whole, your husband's gay, I don't like it. I think Erin's a lying asshole. I do believe that she was telling everybody Sai's business. But I also believe Sai was telling everybody's business.

46:28And I don't like that Sai just did this outing thing on national TV and then accused somebody else of doing some outing. I don't know. I think it's a bunch of bullshit, to be honest. but it was i also said i also don't really like if pavit were gay i don't love the framing of like this is the most disgusting despicable thing someone could say about someone i know what she's really saying is like hey you're like you're implying that he's like cheating or like not like he has like he's in this family he's a father but he his love lies elsewhere or whatever i think that's what she's trying to say but like by saying it's like this horrific disgusting hideous thing it's like thanks um so that so he would pivot living his truth would just be a hideous disgusting disdainful thing for you so i know she did i really don't believe she meant it that way but like don't say it that way well i mean i think she meant it that way it seems like she thinks that way yeah because otherwise you would just say i heard he's cheating he was cheating with someone at the equinox you know it's this like oh he's secretly gay and then getting on this high horse of like we can't out people like you shouldn't out people aaron while you're outing people it's just the whole thing's gross i don't like it i mean i don't i think housewives need to like kind of calm down on the calling each other's husband's gay i mean what i will say is and i don't want to like do some sort of like sweaty work around to absolve psi i'm not trying to do that i can imagine a world where Cy is saying it's disdainful and disgusting because she thinks that Aaron's trying to evoke gay panic and use it against Povet and that would be disdainful and disgusting so maybe that's what she meant again it's not my job or my place to have to like come up with defenses for Cy but I can imagine that but no matter what it was Cy brought that up on national TV which now turns you know she's the one going, I have a daughter and I have this and I'm a parent.

48:27You guys have to do the next. Yes, exactly. And it's like, and now you're doing this to someone's father, you know, and it's the whole cheating thing. And whether we think being gay is okay or not, we know how the world feels in general. And so now they're going to have a bunch of people coming after them and kids being like, your dad's gay and all this other shit. And it's Sai who did that. So, you know, and now it's everyone's like, fuck Aaron for outing somebody. Aaron could have said that at a table. Cy is the one who said that on national TV, and it's gross. And I can be on Cy's side in a lot of things today.

48:59Like I do think Aaron was using a microaggression, blah, blah, blah. I can think that people were mean to Cy, but Cy is also a complete fucking asshole. And I just don't like it. I don't like it. I was pretty surprised that she brought that in. I was surprised that she knew when she called up her gay that she was essentially putting this out there. And I also was pretty shocked. and you're absolutely right it's like you can't on the one hand say i've got a daughter i've got to protect my like it's important for me to ask these questions i got to protect my family i got to know who i'm associated with at the same time putting something out there that could affect um their family but uh but i will say jessalyn and povet have have their it's been pretty amusing watching the way they've handled it i like that jess was like no and povet doing this little video So they're handling it very nicely.

49:50It's definitely a lot of gray areas in this episode, which is why I really loved it. I love an episode with all sorts of interesting gray areas. I thought it was really, really good. Yeah. I mean, I love an episode where I can finish and say, wow, you're all a bunch of assholes. Yeah. You definitely got that. That's how I felt. So it was good. Well, that was a fun episode. Everybody, thanks so much for being with us. Grab tickets for this weekend in Minneapolis and – I'm sorry, Detroit and then Philly after. And where's Philly with DC, right? Yeah, Philly and DC at the top of November. Yes, and then Texas.

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