820. - Chris & Jason

14 Jul 2025 · 1 h 5 min · 22 chapters

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In short

Two hosts (Chris and Jason) riff on fitness supplements, music culture, celebrity news, and food/restaurant experiences, with long tangents on soft-serve trends and Justin Bieber’s “Swag” album.

Guests

None. The episode is just Chris and Jason (no guest interviews).

Guest backgrounds

Not applicable (no guests). Chris is a New York–based media/creative type; Jason is also New York–based and discusses music production/drumming and attending industry events.

Key claims

  • Thorn “senior” multivitamin makes urine look like lemon-lime Gatorade; they argue it’s working, not a kidney problem.
  • Drake’s recent UK-leaning moves are strategic; Bad Bunny’s stage design is “rainforest” themed with live chickens.
  • Soft-serve shops have “third-wave quick fix” vibes; McDonald’s service/consistency is better than many niche places, even if the food is still “doo-doo.”
  • Justin Bieber’s “Swag” is musically authentic and restrained, with gospel/drumming influences; rollout is minimal and music-first.

Notable examples

  • Drake bringing out UK rappers; Vanessa Carlton performing “A Thousand Miles.”
  • Clips vs. Sexy Red Pitchfork scores; Pusha T/No Malice looking great.
  • Kith Treats soft serve with cinnamon toast crunch and a “smash/crush” machine.
  • Bad Bunny’s jungle stage with roaming chickens.
  • Justin Bieber “Swag” and steering-wheel “air drumming” to tracks.

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Chapters

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Exploring Multivitamins and Health

0:32 to 2:14

Chris and Jason discuss their vitamin routines, the importance of supplementation, and personal health anecdotes.

Subscription Services and Product Experiences

2:14 to 4:05

The hosts talk about their experiences with subscription services, comparing them to traditional purchasing methods.

“Don't give me the Jacques Mou duffels on subscription.”

Contemplating Child Support Drama

4:05 to 7:12

Chris and Jason delve into a discussion about child support issues involving a mutual acquaintance in the podcasting world.

“it's funny it's funny you bring up bms because i saw on on twitter that our boy ish from joe Budden is caught up in some BM drama.”

Fitness Regimes and Celebrity Training

7:12 to 11:10

The hosts discuss their interest in celebrity fitness programs and the alignment of workout styles with their lifestyles.

“I'm a proud American, of course, and I have to disagree with him, but I think he's doing what he has to do.”

Drake's Influence on UK Rap

11:10 to 14:00

Chris and Jason analyze Drake's recent performance, his influence on UK rap, and reactions to his comments on British rappers.

“And I think Sexy Red went over it a long time ago.”

The Exclusive Listening Party Experience

14:00 to 18:04

Learn about the vibe and aesthetics of an exclusive listening party hosted by Apple Music.

“and you're going to go to the farmer's market today, how many more times can you rap about doing coke and selling coke?”

The Exclusive Listening Party Experience

19:22 to 19:36

Learn about the vibe and aesthetics of an exclusive listening party hosted by Apple Music.

“It just makes everything easier with Revolve.”

Kith Treats and Ice Cream Delights

19:36 to 22:03

Hear about the delicious ice cream experience at Kith and the unique preparation methods.

The State of Fast Food and Service

22:03 to 28:00

Explore the evolving landscape of fast food service and customer experiences.

“It's just a vanilla chocolate swirl, right?”

Fast Food Philosophy

28:00 to 30:20

Exploration of the perception and quality of fast food chains.

“It's like a scientifically grown potato in this weird giant bunker in the middle of America.”
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Dining Out Experiences

30:20 to 32:32

A discussion about dining experiences and unique dishes enjoyed.

“But I think it is, yeah, I think it's the, I mean, last night, Lane, David Cho, and Alex and I went to Penny.”

Oreos and Customization

32:32 to 35:01

The excitement around custom Oreos and how brands innovate.

“I mean, just imagine, let's say your friend's favorite band is Crass, and you just get the 12-pack of Crass logo Oreos right on there.”

Bad Bunny's Concert Setup

35:01 to 37:41

Insights into Bad Bunny's unique concert setup and stage props.

“He famously said, no dates in America because there's no reason to, which is pretty funny and pretty cool.”

Bad Bunny's Concert Setup

38:15 to 38:43

Insights into Bad Bunny's unique concert setup and stage props.

“It's weeknight dinners, sitting around the table, everyone talking all at once.”

Justin Bieber's Musical Evolution

40:32 to 42:01

Discussion on Justin Bieber's new music and its appeal.

“That's why, that's because that's the real him.”

Musical Interpretations and Drumming in the Car

42:01 to 46:00

Exploring the nuances of music appreciation and the experience of drumming while driving.

Justin Bieber's Musical Evolution

46:01 to 49:41

Discussion on Justin Bieber's music and the artistic risks he takes in his career.

“I thought you were going to be, because the real, what I've always wanted to do as an amateur drummer is be able to just keep the time on the hi-hat no matter what I'm doing.”

Impact of Fame on Artistic Expression

49:42 to 52:46

Analyzing how fame influences musicians' creative processes and decisions.

“When you are that big on his level, you're able to do it.”

Social Media and Close Friends Feature

52:47 to 56:00

Discussing the implications of Instagram's Close Friends feature on social interactions.

“I'll give you my coordinates and my hours.”

Movie Discussions and Experiences

56:00 to 1:00:20

The hosts share insights on films they've watched and upcoming screenings.

“I mean, I guess I don't ever have to let the squad know that I'm open for business.”

Food Adventures and Restaurant Experiences

1:00:20 to 1:03:10

Jason and Chris talk about their recent dining experiences and favorite dishes.

Upcoming Shows and Events

1:03:10 to 1:05:43

The hosts discuss their upcoming tour stops and interact with the audience.

“I love going there because it also feels like a serious, it kind of feels serious.”
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Transcript

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0:32how long gone recording in process uh chris black coming to you from uh new york city them jeans

0:39Jason Stewart:uh what's good um i just took a piss and i seen codeine coming out okay you're great thank you that was the update i wasn't expecting but needed to hear no no i actually i was just thinking that i uh i just started taking a new multivitamin i realized that i'm i'm not really taking vitamins you know oh man i wish i could say the same god i wish i could say so so i mean i take things that i eat a rich diet full of vitamins and i try to get my vitamins from food but you know as as we're in our 40s now you need a little a little extra you need a little a2 b12 a little extra yeah yeah but i i took there there's this brand called thorn yeah yeah yeah which you've probably heard of they're like expensive nice ones and i just got some you know daily multivitamin thingy the senior formula and when i tell you this shit was looking like lemon lime gatorade with the umami turned all the way to 11 i know that's the problem with vitamins they make you think something's wrong you know what i mean they think oh shit my kidneys ain't working right you know but it's actually good for you we've discussed this before i actually i like it because you see that it's working yeah i like working out hard saunaing blah blah blah and then it makes you feel as if you've done a hard day's work yeah i understand that yeah i understand if it comes out clear you're living uh a life that's not full of enough strife yeah i'm sure yeah i'm sure that's what that is yeah i'm sure that's what that is you're not being challenged enough if your if your pee is always clear but thorn thorns like a dtc like they got a hundred million dollar startup vibe right i'm sure i'm sure i don't know sure i've just never clicked i've never clicked into it before because i feel like i can get that at whole foods and i don't need it from them but i do i'm sure they make it nice and easy yeah i mean i i just got it on amazon oh i see i see i see i see okay i didn't know if they got you i didn't know if they got you into a pyramid scheme where you have to you know you're paying monthly for pills you can't take not like my good friends at true nutrition where they create a scenario where it's kind of subscription only they only they don't you know it's very drug dealer you like i'm trying to buy the the key i'm trying i'll settle for a quarter pack but they're like no we're only doing eights 3.5s only so i gotta go cop every week no q no no qp you gotta come back every week and tap in and i'm like let me get let me get the 75 dollar duffel bag full of fucking fresh pow pows not four installments of$22 baby duff.

3:21Jason Stewart:Don't give me the Jacques Mou duffels on subscription. You want a full-size L.L. Bean vintage duffel or maybe a Patagonia full-size. I know exactly what we're talking about. Don't make me rocket money your ass is all I'm saying. We should start using rocket money as a threat. Hey, I swear to God, I'll rocket money your ass. You do that one more time. I'm going to come get what I'm owed. Turn this plane around. Your ass keep complaining. in i'll rocket money your whole shit light light bill rocket money nails done rocket money yeah has your bm been acting up and you don't really have time to sort through all the finances that you're covering for for them rocket money is here for you has your bm been acting up why it's funny it's funny you bring up bms because i saw on on twitter that our boy ish from joe Budden is caught up in some BM drama.

4:15He wasn't paying his child support. What kind of drama? Like in terms of legal? Yeah. Has he been penalized? I mean his chick is his BM is posting like nyc.gov you know like this is the case number type shit on Twitter. Yeah it's not great for him. Praying for him.

4:32Jason Stewart:Yeah I mean I guess I'm praying. I mean I don't really know if Ish is a good or bad person. I just assume that everybody on the Joe Budden podcast is just like. He's a good person. I agree with you. I agree with you. it's a great person there i mean they're they're a lovable but flawed character like uh sure they're they're all from the school of jim jones where you're like i know you mean well deep down inside but i'm really trying to go bad things have happened i've asked my editors at gq to try to get me in touch with jim jones because i want to go work out with him and his vamp life he has a he has a vamp fitness brand oh that is like he's got some trainer and they all do they do all this crazy shit together and they like sell programs like every other you know foddy dude on instagram but i think it would be fun for me to go kind of uptown probably new jersey at this point so it's it's his version of mark walberg's municipal it's not as much of a merchandise push as it is a training program push oh okay yeah because i think i think basically he's he's probably like all right this is my trainer i've been working together forever i'll pay for the you know whatever i'll pay for bunch of content and then we'll we'll make some money on the back end but i want to it's it's old school you know it's old school they're lifting they're lifting weights in a driveway the gym they're in looks absolutely shitty all the equipment's red you know which is i i just that makes that feels aggressive to me um but i'm interested in in in getting a pump in with gym yeah i think it could happen yeah i i'm also interested in that program because i feel like most of the fitness regimes and trainers and all these things, it's not aligned with my lifestyle and I feel like I'm more aligned with Jim Jones' lifestyle where it's like, we're going to get this little workout in, we're going to do this, this, and this.

6:18Jason Stewart:I am going to smoke a little PCP sometime this week. I am going to take a bottle of Remy to the face. It is more closely aligned. I'm going to smoke cigarettes most days. It's not a get ready with me with a finance guy. My four to nine before my nine to five. It's different for you. You're up late. But Joe, for his age and for the damage that he's done on his body, pause, it looks good. Jim looks good. Jim looks good. He's in good shape. Jim looks great. Just like who's the other rapper that is in good shape who's doing pull-ups? No, probably Jadakiss went on his juice shit. No, it was Jada. Yeah, Jada's been on his juice stuff.

6:59I saw a video of Central Sea

7:01Jason Stewart:You said juice stuff or juice stuff? Juice, like I think he opened a juice bar at some point Where's It's the Real when we need them? But I think that Actually I saw because I don't mean to start us off with Drake talk but it's been big news on my TL after his appearance at Wireless Fest and he brought out all the British rappers and basically glazed them saying that they're better than American. What else is new? I'm a proud American, of course, and I have to disagree with him, but I think he's doing what he has to do. I think he knows he's got a rapt audience, and they're going to be nice to him, and I think that it's a smart move to bring out.

7:47Do you know rapper Dave, who's wildly popular in the UK? Dave, yeah. A guy called Dave. He came out on a stage. you know it's like 80 ,000 people or something and he looked like he was wearing like jean shorts and a polo shirt and it was all very clean and I was kind of like he looked like a little kid but I also was like you don't everybody else looks stupid you actually look the best but because

8:12Jason Stewart:of the setting you look insane okay so it's a you you do look the best out of all this somehow even though you're wearing something that soldier boy wore and when he was 13 yeah it was it was it fit better than that and it was probably like a stone island polo you know i i couldn't see from my vantage point they weren't denver nuggets denim shorts no yeah they weren't they weren't ankle grazing nba team shorts but yeah it's just an interesting i was like wow you look like a like a kid waiting on the bus but you also are the best dressed guy on the stage sign of the times sign of the times but yeah well it's it's interesting and that you said the his audience was wrapped because I think him glazing UK rappers is taking a page out of the Renee wrapped playbook by knowing that you have been alienated by a certain group of people in her world that is breeders.

9:12Jason Stewart:You hate me, I hate you. We are going to be enemies and we'll build together. And then Drake is like, okay, well, you know america not so much for me anymore i'm gonna focus my energy and take my talents to bristol caldiff and a lot of them i will say though i will say i'm gonna go i'm gonna stop hanging out with whoever the trap rapper du jour is or whoever the 700 my 700 pound rapper the Dave Blunt and they're like what's what's Wizkid and Burna Boy and Sims and you know all these people doing. There's so many. I mean I've really been rocking with Skepta lately because the Fredigan song is unfortunately undeniably a smash and I hate to say that but it's just true.

10:03It's just true but I mean the big story obviously I got a lot of texts about was that he brought out Vanessa Carlton to play A Thousand Miles which is really funny because I noticed she posted on Instagram something big is coming and I was like that's not like her that's really funny like she's having a laugh here and then it really was something big came

10:24Jason Stewart:she was doing like a wait on it big ting ziguang album mode style post from Vanessa Carlton shout out Vanessa I'm going to ask her about it because I need to know do you think she got paid a lot or do you think it was just like I'll put you on the PJ get you over here, put you at the hotel. You know what I mean? I wonder if he broke her off. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so either. I don't think that's how that works. You know what I mean? Like, I'll pay for you to get there, and it's going to be extra nice. But it was cool because he just, he didn't try to like, she just played her song, and he vibed out.

11:01There was no like collaboration, which was kind of sick.

11:04Jason Stewart:So that was it. I mean, I kind of like that, and that is an undeniable hood classic now at this point. and it's been sampled a lot. And I think Sexy Red went over it a long time ago. That was one of her first breakouts. Yeah, I mean, several people have over the years, which is, I mean, the best video is when it's, I think it was the USA Olympic basketball team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the plane, singing the whole month. Dry snitching on your damn self. Yeah, it was really funny. Speaking of Sexy Red, how do you feel about her, Pitchfork giving her the 7.5 and Clips getting the 6.6 or something like that, whatever it was.

11:40I mean, that just, justice is served. I mean, I don't, I just don't care about Sexy Red in any iota. Like I couldn't care less. I don't know why. I don't, I mean, I don't know. I don't care. I mean, I did go to the Clips album listening party. So I did, I did witness the.

11:56Jason Stewart:So it's clear which side your alliances lean to. I mean, Clips has given us, whether you like them or not, they've given us actual classics. You know what I mean? That like every person respects and knows the words to. It's some of the best Pharrell production of all time. I don't know what Sexy Red has given us yet. She could get there. She could get there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Clips has had a head start. She's just getting started. I got to say, man, I got to say, Pusha T and No Malice look extremely good for their age. Like, No Malice is in his 50s. Yeah. They look very, very good. I was impressed.

12:33Jason Stewart:What do you think it is? because they obviously, you know, for them to be at that age and the lifestyle that they live is why they look so good. So I don't know. I like my rappers to really be living what they're talking about, and I think clips might be, number one, not living what they're talking about. Well, I hate to say this. I hate to say this, Jason, but unfortunately I think most rappers that have any success are not living what they're talking about. Of course. Of course. And that's why I don't like most rappers. Well, I mean, yeah, no. I guess more so the point I'm making is like everyone is just talking about like, oh, damn, you know, clips.

13:15Jason Stewart:They're rapping like they're, you know, they're, you know, basically saying like these guys still sell cocaine. Yeah. They're still on the street. They still are moving weight. And, you know, all they do is talk about selling coke. And I bet you they don't sell coke. They don't do coke. They don't even drink. They definitely don't do it. They definitely don't do it. They're having CMOS gel and doing Korean face masks with their wife. I feel like it's somewhere in between that. But yes, I agree with you. I mean, I love drug dealer rap. I love talking about selling drugs and doing drugs and all that stuff.

13:55Jason Stewart:It's fun and exciting and a tale as old as time. But if you are in your 50s and you're subscribing to Architectural Digest, and you're going to go to the farmer's market today, how many more times can you rap about doing coke and selling coke? Well, it's actually less about - And running a criminal syndicate. I would say that it's less about that than it ever has been, to be completely honest. So at least there is some maturity there. There's shit about parents dying that doesn't mention, but of course every song is going to have some sort of coke talk. But yeah, it was a funny, it was presented by Apple Music.

14:38And of course it was at one of the scammer WSA buildings because they've somehow acquired another one on 180 Maiden Lane. But it was -

14:45Jason Stewart:They got another one? They got another one. They got Brooklyn too. But Brooklyn's been there for a little bit. But yeah, the amount of white guys with like extremely manicured beards in that listening party was over the - I thought that had kind of died out. bro i saw guys i just they had it manicured i mean it looked it looked like they had like some rory and mall shit extremely i thought maybe well i thought joe budden was going to be there because they had just done his his podcast but i left halfway through because i was like it was midnight i couldn't really take it um but the but i i it was some rory and mall shit that's exactly what it was okay and did you what was the scene like at this exclusive listening party it really has like a 2003 Def Jam street team feel to it, I gotta say.

15:32That's 100 % what it was. That's 100%. It felt like, I mean, it was very well done. Like, it was really nice, and it was on like, you know, the 30th floor of a build. So it was like, and Apple paid for it, so it was properly produced, because they were, I think you could live stream it. So there were no fights or anything? No, no, no. It was extremely like, I worked at, you know, I was the CMO at Complex kind of vibe, you You know what I mean? But that's, I mean, I think that's...

16:01Jason Stewart:People brought out their formal Air Force ones. Oh, it was like, oh, there were some crispy Air Force ones for sure. There was some, I mean, the fitted hats had stickers. You know, it was that kind of, we're not messing around tonight. We are not messing around. A lot of Kith in the building. You know, actually, I thought I would see more Kith and I didn't. But I need to, thank you for bringing up Kith because I need to make an admission that I'm not proud of, but I want to share with the group. making my way through the hood with your boo all his homeboys think i'm cute

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19:33Jason Stewart:Don't sleep. last weekend i uh we had this bowl and it's across the street you know from the from the kith flagship on lafayette street here in new york and they've remodeled it and there's a kith treats that is facing out like a classic ice cream window situation so you don't have to go through the kith store and you can just walk up you can queue up and get an ice cream and i wanted ice cream because it's obviously it's summer and it was july ice cream it was july 4th weekend so i was like you know what fuck so you deserve a little treat yeah exactly fuck it i'm getting kith treats i'm gonna try this and when i tell you that that shit smacked so hard i i cannot i cannot stress enough how good it was okay it was so good what exactly did you get so they they do like a soft serve obviously so i got vanilla chocolate vanilla and chocolate swirl but they and then they have all these toppings you can put on it so i i opted for cinnamon toast crunch and they put it they have like some contraption which i've never seen this before in all of my years of eating ice cream contraption where they sort of like smash it all together like they put it in like it looks like a like those videos where they crush stuff didn't you used to go to cold stone all barred out you've seen that shit no cold stone they chopped it up like coke not to bring it back to that you know what i mean they would like they have at cold stone they're on like a what looks like to be a flat top oven with like these two tools so this is like this was like a lever that they pulled and then it comes out all talking about the chill grill yeah it's a flat top that freezes things chill grill so it it came out and then the cone i got a cone and the waffle cone kith logo i mean they just they thought of everything but it was it was delicious and i i don't but i also want to say it cost 15 okay so this was this this was a scoop uh where they mix in they they they smash burger the cinnamon toast crunch into the ice cream and then they roll it back up into a ball and then they put it in the the kith waffle but but because it's soft serve i couldn't really see the process and it was it took it took quite a long time i will say that but really man i couldn't believe how good it was i was like really really taken aback because i was doing it as a joke and then i was like you know pleasantly surprised you know i think soft serve is really having a strong comeback right now and i i'm pro and con it what's the place in silver lake that i like magpies that shit is good yeah there's there's places that are popping up that are sort of like under the guise of it being like japanese imported like yeah those are those are happening here too no where it's like we've imported this milk from the cows of hokkaido and then we have this you know but and it's run by like some fucking tweaker ass kid who you know has zero work skills and you he he takes the like matcha charcoal waffle cone that tastes like fucking diarrhea and then he just sticks it underneath the soft serve thing pulls the lever and it just slides out like a diary and he hands it to you and he's like steve it's it back in my day we would get a swirl you would you i mean i guess the overarching point is the world is in a bad position when mcdonald's is like head and shoulders above most other small businesses restaurants similar things like better they get better pay i don't know if that's true i mean i don't know if that's true i think it's true i mean i don't think it's true from my personal i pay attention when's the last time you went to mcdonald's you haven't been in a mcdonald's in years i don't i haven't been inside but drive through i don't know if i believe you what do you mean when's the last time you went through the drive-thru of mcdonald's maybe like three weeks ago because of soft serve but but it's not a McFlurry.

23:41It's just a vanilla chocolate swirl, right?

23:43Jason Stewart:Well, they obviously have an Oreo McFlurry, but I just get the small whatever. Would you consider a McFlurry a soft serve? I feel like a McFlurry is its own thing, sort of. I think the McFlurry is made out of soft serve because McDonald's just has ice cream machine, and ice cream machine is broken. Sure, sure. Nobody is hand scooping like Salt-N-Straw over McDonald's. is just but but all that is to say like you used to be like you go to the mom and pop ice cream shop you open the door and it would a bell would ring and a person would greet you and hey would you like some samples blah blah take their time scooping it getting it all there boom presenting it to you it's all it looks perfect it's too good to eat and now these sort of like third generation you know it's kind of like weed dispenser you know it's like the zaza shopification of soft Okay, so you want to go back to like 90s Cape Cod and walk into a family-owned where like high school students are working on their summer break to give you a scoop of vanilla because that's pure to you.

24:54Jason Stewart:Yeah, that's the ideal scenario. And those places do exist. They do exist, but I don't give a shit about that. It's the new third wave quick fix. You know, like we come into town. We spend$50 ,000 to create this business. We hire some awful Gen Z tweens. To be fair, awful Gen Z employees are at every business you're going to find, even a mom and pop. But I'm saying they are not found at McDonald's. And if McDonald's, McDonald's in my mind used to be the bottom of the barrel, and now we have found sub floors to this barrel that were not known before i don't think it's saddam's hiding place i think of subdivisions i think mcdonald's is like uh i i think it's obviously a successful business for a reason but it's just i i think that i don't think the difference is mcdonald's has like a manager and they're telling people what to do and control and their employees.

25:59Jason Stewart:And then you walk into some place in Echo Park or Ridgewood or wherever, and it's just two people who are just waiting for their ketamine to show up. I actually had some amazing, an unnamed soft serve place. I've had some of the most amazing bad service I've ever witnessed. To the point where it's so good, it's so funny how little they care and how stone they are that I like it. I do a full 180. I'm like, fuck these losers. And then I'm like, what would i do if i was making 15 an hour working in a software place i would be stoned as fuck and not give a shit about this yeah it's not a it's not a job that requires any skill you just have to be sort of nice and and you know take a credit card i agree and the problem or i guess my gripe is they're not even being nice and they're not being mean either either they're being just flatline nothing like you walk into the door they're just on their phone hello are you guys open and they're like nobody cares nobody cares yeah and at least at mcdonald's they're like hi how are you here's your you know here's your heart disease food yeah have a good day sir no i see what you mean that that i think is probably true i think there's like more uh at mcdonald's they're swirling the soft serve and handing it to you with the smile on their face saying you have had a hard day you just paid your good earned money to to get this treat your kid's gonna to stop crying whatever it is have a nice looking cone i mean i could go do it in echo park just just matcha doo-doo there's no i mean i don't think you mcdonald's mcdonald's is literally doo-doo like it's defined but i wouldn't i wouldn't walk in i found worse than doo-doo i wouldn't drive through a mcdonald's i wouldn't i wouldn't use the bathroom in a mcdonald's it's just too much like fast food rest the way that we have made fast food restaurants like a cute treat is disgusting and i don't know where because it's like is in and out actually better like i don't know if it's actually better actually i don't i think you think it is because it's a better presentation it doesn't have all the history attached to it but i think that it's just like that being the little treat for people is so odd to me because going into a fast food restaurant disgusts me and not because i'm a snob it's because i just don't want anything they have to offer going into most all fast food restaurants is is disgusting you don't want to see how that sausage is made in and out i feel like it's a little different because they're they're saying hey open kitchen watch us do all of this stuff versus because they're saying hey this is touched by god this is blessed by no they're saying christ himself mcdonald's they're commonly known as the greatest french fry in the world you know everyone loves them they think it's magic They think it's blah, blah, blah.

28:40Jason Stewart:It's like a scientifically grown potato in this weird giant bunker in the middle of America. It's like a fucked up genetically modified potato starch factory thing going on. You go to In-N-Out. Hector's making the fries right there. You see him taking a potato, putting it in a squisher, squishing it down. Are you going to start saying that Chipotle is good too because they have an open kitchen? I just don't think that that is. I mean, In-N-Out is fine. I don't care about In-N-Out. But I just think that people thinking like a Chick-fil-A or an In-N-Out or even in some cases a Zaxby's is of a higher grade.

29:21Not a Zaxby. It's a higher grade than like Burger King and McDonald's. I just don't think that's actually true. I think it's a mental thing and we're holding on to it from childhood. and I think it's a little bit of a mind game people play with themselves to justify pigging out.

29:40Jason Stewart:Yeah, you're right. Justify pigging out. And that's fine. If it makes you happy, I'm all for it. I just don't think these places are, I think these places, they all exist on the same plane to me. And when you start giving some different allowances, I don't know if that's actually coming from a place of truth. That could just be clever branding and marketing to brand also. And more power, too, the evil Chick-fil-A corporation, the evil In-N-Out corporation, for figuring out that you can get upper middle class 40-year-old creative directors to have a bad boy meal at In-N-Out and take that business away from McDonald's.

30:16Jason Stewart:Fool me twice, shame on me type shit. Exactly, exactly, exactly. But I think it is, yeah, I think it's the, I mean, last night, Lane, David Cho, and Alex and I went to Penny. and double date at the penny bar okay it was delicious there was it hard to have a convo when we're all sitting shoulder to shoulder it's funny you say that because of because lane's brother is a chef there we got we got the corner not the corner which is the corner which is actually that happened to me we went with fran and jackie to maddie's bar clams in toronto they i thought about this i was like this is going to suck how are you gonna do this also put us on a corner and it's actually a great way to dine if but there's one corner okay so how long gone pro tip in the food culinary space best way to to dine in these scenarios know the owner of the restaurant you gotta know the other restaurant or the head chef at least the head chef but the but i'm getting at they have this amazing dessert there that's like a brioche ice cream sandwich but cho being the nasty little freak that he is had bought the selena gomez oreos and wanted me to try them so So he brought them to the restaurant.

31:22And I'm thinking to myself, this is similar to what we're talking about, where it's like we like all this stuff because it reminds us of childhood, but it's actually so bad. And it's the same thing as going to McDonald's to me. But the Selena Gomez Oreo absolutely fucking smacks.

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31:38Jason Stewart:What did Selena do? Did she add a little hot sauce to it or something? No, even better, a horchata. Oh, that's smart. It's good. I mean, Alex said it tasted like a Dunkaroo, and then I couldn't untaste that. which is a really astute observation. And really smart because Oreo is like, all right, we're going to call it the Selena Gomez horchata Oreo cookie. And then they're like, all right, how are we going to make it? And then they go, just add some cinnamon. Yeah, literally. All right, we're done. They did know it's a custom cookie. Like it has Selena Gomez on the outside. You know, her name is on it.

32:15Jason Stewart:Sure, sure, sure. On each individual cookie. But yeah, they were delicious, I have to say. I don't know if I'm going to seek them out, but they were good. I feel like we are close to being able to create our own custom bespoke Oreos the way that we can do it with the M &Ms. You know what I mean? Sure. Yeah. What was the Nike thing? Nike ID. The Nike ID for Oreos is coming. The Nike ID. I mean, just imagine, let's say your friend's favorite band is Crass, and you just get the 12-pack of Crass logo Oreos right on there. That would look stunning, wouldn't it? That is really good. That's really good.

32:52I got you. Hey, Chris Chang, it's your birthday. I got you some crass Oreos. Right? What a treat. That's a good idea. I think that I do wonder how, because the M &M, when that first came out, I did it immediately and put my face on M &M's immediately, like the week at launch. First day out. Yeah, this is the coolest shit I've ever seen. I mean, at this point, it's probably like 15 years ago, 20 years ago, maybe. but that's still available right like we can still go online and order m &ms with our face on them oh 1000 or whatever message you want hlg of course of course ceo yes ceo hard pack of peanuts green only i wonder yeah i wonder if you can do can you do peanut now because i feel like originally you could only do you can only do the the ogs but i want peanut they're like we tried to do peanut but they're just simply too uh oblong bumpy you know sometimes because when you throw in the the a wild card of peanut shape it's very tough to to plan for that as far as printing goes yeah i mean

33:51Jason Stewart:there it's an organic material that god created each one is different and special in their own way snowflake of the nut world organic material going back yeah shorty had that organic material going back to chick-fil-a i was um friend of the show bad bunny he had his first show of his tour I think in his hometown. Is it PR or DR? Is it Puerto Rico or Dominican Republic? I don't know. I think PR. I think. I've got my best guys on this. Let me see. He's known as the king of Latin trap, which I had not heard before. But yeah, he's Puerto Rico. I was correct. Latin trap. Sorry, I'm just texting you a photo.

34:36Jason Stewart:I had chat GPT make me a crass Oreo, and it looks pretty good. Oh, Crass Oreo looks banging. It looks nice, doesn't it? There's some other round logo iconography. Yeah, for sure. Hey Siri, who got the roundest logo? We could work in a Black Flag Bars, I think, if we wanted to. Guilt-free Duncan. Okay, well, anyway, Bad Money's doing his first show, the tour. He famously said, no dates in America because there's no reason to, which is pretty funny and pretty cool. Very cool. I like it because he's like, hey, I don't speak English and I don't want to. I don't give a fuck. I'm so big, I don't have to.

35:14He's like, I'll still steal your bitch in Calabasas and I don't even need to speak English.

35:17Jason Stewart:How cool is that? It's very cool. I mean, I guess it's also cool that enough Spanish-speaking people live in the world to where they're like, no, we're good. We don't need English. We don't need that. Thank God I'm bilingual. Anyway, but Bunny, he was up in there with LeBron and everyone was having a good time. But the thing that I really liked about his show, we were talking to Mark Hoppus of Blink-182 about the stage and the pyro and the fireworks and explosions. Bad Bunny, he's got his stage set up to sort of look like a South American forest or a jungle. Nice. He's going rainforest cafe mode.

35:56Jason Stewart:He's going rainforest. Rainforest. But he had live chickens roaming around on the stage as props, which is bittersweet. Because he's got a damn six-piece leg and thigh running around on stage. Don't call Kendall Jenner that, bro. That's rude. She's a successful businesswoman. I'm sorry. Continue. And I'm glad that we are giving jobs, union work to these animals in need. But I feel like the sound issue is potentially abusive to these animals. and I'd love to see these little roosters with the shooting range earmuffs on to control. You know, like when you bring your baby to see the apple seed cast.

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38:43Jason Stewart:And I feel like in about 10 years, it'll come around, and I will finally understand it and appreciate it. Get that Duolingo going now. Much like Justin Bieber. much like Bieber he's kind of slowly wearing me down to where I'm like you know what I can't help but stun there's an accent mark over the A in stun I cannot help yeah the Bieber thing I've been getting a lot of messages about Justin Bieber from friends you know like what did you listen to and I just was like it just literally sounds like McGee and Dijon with him trying to be Michael Jackson and that kind of works sometimes you know what I mean it's not it's not bad I don't know So it does feel like it's a moose-bouche to something that might hit a little harder.

39:26But then you see the streaming numbers and he's fucking, you know, he's destroying. It's crazy.

39:30Jason Stewart:I mean, he's a talent. I mean, he was in the studio with McGee and Dijon like a year ago. And I remember when the McGee album came out, I was like, oh, this shit sounds a lot like Justin Bieber. It would be cool if he just made music with Justin Bieber. Obviously, McGee's ass was listening. I'm just kidding. I can't take any credit for it, but I think it works out well. I think that his vocalizing over that kind of music is a nice amuse-bouche. It scratches the Frank Ocean itch that many people other than you seem to have. I think swag has more swag than Frank Ocean, if I'm keeping it 100. I don't think people will disagree with that.

40:12I'm never going to listen to it again, but I listened to it all the way through a couple times, and I was like, all right, this is cool. This is cooler than it needs to be. But I saw that Scooter Braun, enemy of the state, said that this is like the most, he's like, this is the most authentic Justin Bieber record that has ever been made and released. Don't come crawling back, Scooter. I'm like, yeah, that's because he's smoking dust with some freaks in a studio in Burbank. That's why, that's because that's the real him.

40:37Jason Stewart:That's because if he's not, you know, drinking Pinot Noir with Lil B. Yeah. He's hanging out with McGee's friend who has one of those headlamps and a soldering iron. He's up since four in the morning soldering a bass pedal onto a plate reverb. Yeah, they go to do a fucking blunt rap run and Justin Bieber gets in McGee's friend's Subaru and he's never been in a car like that in his life. He's like, what the fuck is this? I don't understand. This car works? You people have to drive? hold on i have a sprinter with a with a fucking butane lighter installed in it why don't you guys get on my level i have no climate control from the backseat at all wow okay uh okay we'll figure it out um so i think it works out well the other thing that i the the thing that i'm enjoying about swag is he's not really trying to appeal to any particular group whereas that's where drake seems to be failing right now so you don't think you don't think that justin bieber is is sort of like pandering to a pitchfork cool guy audience you think he's just it's it's more general interest well i would say that if he's pandering in any direction it's with black people i think that he is showing his true soul and flavor on this record and a reason why or something that reminded me of that or made me start thinking that is i was listening to the to the album carolyn's in the car she's like i don't know and i'm i'm kind of you know some songs are skipping some of them i'm like you mean you're because your cd has a scratch or you're saying you're you're choosing to skip them because they're not doing it my bluetooth cassette was having playback issues once the battery starts i know i know not dying all the way but it starts getting low it starts getting low but you know some songs carolyn would be like you know like when you do the car test or the girlfriend test or the wife test where you're like you're playing a song i'm sure you do it with alex where you're like i don't i don't i don't you know when you're testing out all of your tracks for the weekend gigs yeah anyway um but like you'll be you'll be in the car listening to music and you'll be listening to a song and appreciating this pavement b-side for whatever twang or tone of the third guitar play whatever it is and then you'll put on some other random song and it could be any genre but you'll just see somebody like alex who's more in tune with their physical body comes from a dancing background sure and you just see it's it's just more you know not to be sexist but it's more of a female trait and quality to be able to appreciate the true rhythm and beat i think that's true of music i think that's true i think that's true i'm i'm appreciating a a pedal steel solo i'm not kind of appreciating the full package the way i should yeah and as me as a dj my whole career is like if you can get girls dancing then of course you know free your mind and the rest will follow everything is good to go at that point but i was i was listening to the justin and i found myself doing kind of you know when the drummer at church is like a little too good at drumming and they get in the pocket so it was like that gospel like oh really interesting like subtle and restrained fill patterns you know what i mean that only like a real good like black church drummer can do i find i found myself mimicking those drum fill patterns or obviously at least trying to on my steering wheel of course you don't have to tell me about air drumming chief okay that is that you don't have to tell me one thing about i'm the bird to your jordan in terms of uh disrespecting the the trim package on uh on a steering wheel beat the brakes off that hoe you are the amount of times that you've had to put your hand up because you accidentally honked the car in front of you no so sorry oh no i'm just listening to alkaline i'm so you get it there i go again you've heard alkaline trio right you you've heard this right the drums are amazing on this one yeah i was just i'm listening to queens of the stone age the record where dave grohl did yeah yeah you got it what part of the steering wheel is your crash what part of the steering wheel is actually i don't i i take it off i what i do and this is this is i don't think this is i'm the first person to do this but i might be the best person to do this is the car the steering wheel is guided by my knee and i'm playing the full kit in the air oh we're not tapping no i'm going from hi-hat to china to ride to crash to floor tom but it's all in the air there's no haptic touch whatsoever there's no haptic touch exactly there's no haptic touch i think the haptic touch actually limits my skills because i'm not i'm not playing a huge kit but i've got everything i need i'm not stewart copeland you know i don't i don't have stuff behind me i don't have any auxiliary percussionists in the car it's usually just me and if i can get in the pocket it's not it's not like a little jazz trio tiny kit you've got a few more exactly things to play with a few just a few more thank you to my sponsors you know i'm a big i'm a zildjian guy since day one so i've been able to kind of explore the package you know and i'm i have to do that in my own way we leave the rotos at home for this one though yeah exactly okay yeah So, I mean, well, I prefer every car will have a good spot on the floor where the brake or gas is, where you can get a good kind of kick drum tone going.

46:27Oh, your kick drum. I thought you were going to be, because the real, what I've always wanted to do as an amateur drummer is be able to just keep the time on the hi-hat no matter what I'm doing. You know what I mean?

46:37Jason Stewart:That's your skill challenge? The hi-hat's just constantly clapping perfectly on beat until I need it. You know what I mean? And then I'm back in. But yeah, I understand. I understand that. The kick drum is... Hi-hat is kind of tweaker-y. That means you're drinking a little too much cold brew if you're focusing on the hi-hat. A guy like me, a little more, you know, kind of hung behavior. I'm just... I'm in the pocket. It's kick and snare only. Just let it breathe, baby. You know what I mean? I understand. I understand that. I'm not saying that I'm going to overplay. I'm just saying that I like that sort of tick when a drummer has that.

47:09It makes it feel like something is different. Especially if you have the tambourine sitting on top of the hi-hat for a little extra something.

47:19Jason Stewart:I also like, I mean, I feel like Travis Barker, not to bring it back, but his drum, his kick tone is very similar to a lot of Carr's floorboards. I see. And he's a fun drummer to play along with. Yeah, very fun. And the No Doubt drummer is also another fun one to do. The drum fills on Sunday morning. Oh, yeah. That's it. Exquisite. Exquisite. That is. Okay. How did we get there? We were talking about. Oh, so basically. Bieber. Yeah, the Bieber. It's the kind of music that a very talented church gospel soulful drummer with restraint. Yeah. is able to really... Those people, they're lions in a cage and they never really get the meal that they want.

48:07Jason Stewart:Bieber said, I got half an elk. There's still an eyeball on that. When they're used to eating french fries and shit. Do you think anybody that played on this album Justin Bieber met in church though? Because there's a high probability that this drummer could actually be a church drummer. He said, Hillsong is closed. You guys need to work why don't you come down with me and the boys and we'll cut you in on some real music and what this is really done has set him up to have the greatest tiny desk concert in the world he's gonna say oh clips you're doing the little on the on the desk hold my the school lunch table my unwell hold my unwell elixir i'm gonna about to bring in a lesbian named Shanice that is about to do drum fills that will have the inside of your ass just doing backflips.

49:01I'm waiting for the Bieber. I do appreciate, as we reach rollout fatigue, him just being like, I'm going to rip off the Prada font, put the word swag on black, take some dramatic black and white pictures with Ronell for my album cover, and that's it. And you got it. We're done. And I really appreciate it. Because I think that if you have the audience, you can do that. It doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter. You don't need videos. You don't need to spend any money. He had billboards and shit. Obviously, they spent money as Justin Bieber. But I'm just saying there's no prelude. There's no pomp and circumstance.

49:43It's like, here's the music. You either like it or you don't. And I respect that.

49:45Jason Stewart:Yeah. When you are that big on his level, you're able to do it. same thing with uh you know chris brown or any of these people who make that kind of music and have that kind of following you just you know whoever his manager is just text the swag album cover to clear channel and be like can you put this up on times square today and they're like here's how much it costs and they're like okay yeah please run the run the program there's no there's no deck presentation there's no q4 rollout strategy it's just like here it is put it up on the screen now i'm very i wonder if if justin's one of those annoying musicians who cares about everything or if he's over the years been beat down and just doesn't give a shit about anything but making the music you know what i mean because you know there's some people that care more about the other stuff which is you know a little uh barking up the wrong tree most of the time but he's been through he's been through it so i'd like i'd like to think that there's there's a fire inside of him and it needs to come out musically i'm happy this is what he came out i think it's cool like whether i listen to it again or not i think it's cool and interesting and anybody at that level doing anything that is a risk is so rare you know and it's i think it's i also think he's got that kind of fan base and this is obviously very desirable for for anyone doing anything but they kind of like they want they want to understand it so they will if that makes sense yes yes yes yes that does make sense i've been you know that's that's me listening to extreme noise records or you know whatever it is like yeah i think i get it yeah i i love lightning bolt um i've i've really i really get this i feel it yeah i think it's i think it's cool i i agree and to your point of of that uh i also like that all these interesting people that we're friends with or tangentially know people who manage them and producers and engineers on the record and musicians and everyone that came in to work on it are gonna get or they're gonna experience what it's like to get paid off of justin bieber's stream splits versus like oh yeah we this we had one that broke a million and you know like spotify check's gonna be almost eight grand this year it's pretty good you know versus like oh let's just here's what happens when you get paid on the Justin Bieber split.

52:04I can't even imagine the difference. I feel like there's Justin Bieber and there's everybody else sort of at that level. There's maybe five people that are true change your life without... Bieber, it'll change your life if you contributed a drum pattern to an album track. It's not even like you have to be the co-writer.

52:23Jason Stewart:Yeah, you did one song on track 17. A little drum part remix. Just bought your mom a house right there, bro. We're good to go. yeah shout out to justin bieber i would love to see you winning and keep smoking whatever you're smoking it's working it's working um keep smoking that pure beauty i've noticed this is sort of the instagram close friends season where all of our friends are popping into p town and upstate here and little conclaves and they're sort of letting the squad know that they're open for business you know what i mean oh yeah i saw somebody i think we're talking about the same person they were letting them know they're open for business and something nice and mesh yesterday and i i appreciated that i appreciate that because i feel like when you go to you know these these fire island places or p towns or i mean whatever in tampa i'm not just talking about gay places but just people who are into seem like you are but i get it tampa tampa throw that in there for for for good measure wherever there may be a ball you know the havasus of the world the tahos the tasnos the you know many parts of arizona where it's like hey this is my favorite bog or bridge or tunnel or tree this is my favorite abandoned pickup truck where i do kind of the bulk of my exhibition sex uh so if you're interested you like what you see drop a pin.

53:56Jason Stewart:I'll give you my coordinates and my hours. Close friends has changed this equation. Find me on the signal. Because it used to be you'd see a guy get to New York post a picture of a cab or a famous building to kind of send out the bat signal. But now with close friends available, you can just do whatever you want. Baltimore, I'm in you. Baltimore, see you tonight.

54:21Who's going to see Dan Deacon tonight?

54:23Jason Stewart:Meet me there. And now it's very similar to, it's funny, like the close friends Instagram, when you open up the phone and you've got the bright glowing green ring around it, it's really like a green light that almost pulls your finger in to hit it. And it's also very similar when you're at the self-checkout line and register number seven just opens up, a little green light, head that way. Maybe I'm getting a little too deep on this one. You are, but I like it. I think green means go, baby. And you can't unlearn that. That's something that is ingrained in us in childhood, or at least at 15, 16 years old when you learn to drive.

55:05Jason Stewart:Yeah. If somebody considers you to be a close friend, it's your duty and just common decency to smash that watch button. What I love about close friends is that it's a lot of people that I am not close friends with that are giving me access to their secret life, which is a fun game, I think, because usually it's just, it's one degree different than what's being posted on the regular. You know, it's not, it's usually. Okay, so you see the green ring come up and you're like, really, huh? Okay, you sure about this? Oh, we worked on that New Balance project 10 years ago, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, shit.

55:46Okay, I'll check it out.

55:46Jason Stewart:Yeah, I wonder if people have multiple. Check it out. Oh, it's a picture of a latte. Okay, all right, shit. There we go. I think you can. I think you can have groups too. I think. So you can piece it out however you want. The thought of having it is... I mean, I guess I don't ever have to let the squad know that I'm open for business. But great marketing tool that Close Friends, I'll tell you what. I agree with that. I agree with that. Let's see here. Wait, you're about to say something? Have you watched any of the Lena Dunham show yet? I watched the first episode. okay i haven't watched it yet alex finished it so i'm gonna have to i'm gonna watch it during our exo tour life this weekend i guess okay we're gonna set up we're gonna do screenings one just cancel the hotel rooms we don't need two just one we'll build a fort i'll bring my i'll go to trader joe's get a whole snack pack no we're ordering a pop lay down a towel we're ordering papa john's building a fort i'll bring jammies for both of us and we can just kind to watch watch what mama made okay some part i'm gonna cry and you have to pause it because i don't want to you have to promise me you'll pause it no i've i've been busy watching uh over the weekend i was watching spirited away which is a animated film from 25 years ago because i was hosting a panel discussion last night for a screening with the uniclo and friend of the show care of chan that's great i mean i i hope they paid you well enough to make you watch a 25 year old animated film because that's a that's a hundred thousand dollar deal right there that's a hundred thousand did you watch it on your did you watch it on your apple your your headset your vr or did you do regular there was it was an immersive experience of course that's nice i love an immersive experience uh i watched it in the sauna i watched um who did you talk to i talked to justin chang Pulitzer Prize winning film critic for The New Yorker.

57:46It was just you two. There wasn't anybody else.

57:48Jason Stewart:Just us two. Oh, nice. So it was a guy who knows more about films than anyone in the world. And me, a guy who was like, you know what? If I'm going to host a panel discussion about this movie, I'd better watch it. Well, you're like, dude, this movie's cool, but you like Bill and Ted, right? Like that shit is really my thing. I asked Uniqlo, I was like, do we have to talk about only this movie? Or can we just talk about all the fun movies? Is there other movies we could talk about? Uniqlo Family? I think it's better to watch it right before so it's still fresh on the mind. And it's a beautiful film.

58:25Jason Stewart:It's the number one Japanese film of all time, beating out Titanic and all that shit. It won the Oscar. It's a legendary film. Many people consider it to be a top 10 film of all time. I had to watch a movie recently too. So I had to go to an A24 screening room at 11 a.m. on a Friday. But I did get to watch it alone. So that was kind of a treat. I felt like I was in a rich friend's house in L.A. kind of vibe. Did you feel like you were about to give notes? No. Was it a film that was already completed? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's done. I'm interviewing someone. I'm interviewing the director and writer.

59:11So I had to see it, but I actually really liked it. I really liked it. Can you talk about it? Is this a... Well, yeah, I mean, it was Benny Safdie. It's for a magazine, but he was... It's the new... I can't remember what it's called. It's The Rock is playing kind of this guy. He's sort of like one of the first MMA fighters. Oh, yeah, yeah. And he's addicted to Oxy, and, like, it was really good. I really liked it. Emily Blunt plays his girlfriend.

59:34Jason Stewart:It's called The Smashing Machine. Yeah, it's really good. I liked it a lot. Okay. But, yeah, so I did... um they did a good job because it's in uh they go to it's like late 90s japan is like a big part of the setting which is very nice to look at wow okay very studio ghibli tying it back to my cinematic experiences this weekend yeah yeah let's tie back okay we're gonna get safty on the pod are we gonna get duane on the pod i would love dj on the pod i mean i would love benny was great i mean i already talked to him it was great he's he was cool and very well spoken but i think that the awesome it is time for us to build with dj again i think after yeah after we met him you know and now that he's now that he's sort of doing something for our fan base i think it makes sense yeah brazilian jiu-jitsu people i agree and what the last time i was talking to to the rock we were talking about in and out in glendale off of harvey street one of his favorite in and out locations get that protein imagine four by zero imagine what dj's cheat day in and out looks like they're probably got to pull up the hummer to fit the fit the protein in there the h not the h2 i'm talking about the original yeah the original the the schwarzenegger one exactly exactly the the real bad cans of water welded to the side those ones those are hopefully gas cans but maybe water depending on how far you're going out oh it's both okay well don't make sure make sure you don't confuse them and then drink gasoline jason just be careful be careful it's for it's for the it's for the donkeys um let's see here what else do i have the only thing is on my notes are just i just all i did was eat food this weekend it was a little too much i was eating so good but flynn launched a new veggie sandwich at gym so i had to go yesterday and that shit was smacking and i have to say a it was a there was a pickled carrot edition and i'm usually not a big pickles guy but it really set it off okay gem veggie sandwich it's like eggplant eggplant i can't remember what i can't remember what was on it it's very good it's weird because i had a veggie sandwich this weekend from bub and grandma's there it's called the rainbow good and it's just like it's yeah it was really good it was just the cloud you know the the dark wheat bread there's like some curry tofu and the beets and tomatoes and sprouts and carrots and all that shit but it was when the when the veggie sandwich they make it they cut it wrap it in the brown organic looking paper and then you know you open it and eat it a half an hour later and the bread has been stained from the beet beet root juice that's when you know so you know it's gonna hit no absolutely absolutely that sounds that sounds good too i've never been to bub and grandma's because it's kind of it's like where is it is it highland park it's right next door to dunsmore so it's an area of la that you will likely not explore i'm not going there but the next time you come to la and you're here for a little while i'm gonna take you all the east side spots we're gonna do like a bang bang day i would like because i know that i feel like i'm not gonna you're not gonna want to like go to five different places over the course of your life we'll just do it all in one afternoon and uh and you'll be like that was great it was amazing i get it never gonna come back but i get it just like when you go to a great pizza spot in ridgewood you're like yeah it's delicious i don't ever need glad i need to come back again why would i do that when i have a sweet green right down the street um went to uh austria mozza last night shout out to their chef kirby kirby shaw listener of the pod sent out some beautiful things we had the uh the prosciutto and melon i haven't heard a motherfucker name i haven't heard a motherfucker name kirby since middle school i like that that's a nice name he looks like a like a baseball pitcher he kind of looks like you actually i could oh all right chill out um i uh yeah we had a we had a sort of we had some sort of i can't remember what the fish was but it was like a it was like a raw fish with like melon juice and it was fucking banging it was like a it was like a pescatarian version of the prosciutto and melon is what i'm trying to say oh that melon juice melon juice squeeze so it's like okay like like a little ceviche-ish kind of thing, but with some honeydew, olive oil.

1:03:53It was good. It was so good. Melon's in season right now. Mozza is so good, man. That's a great restaurant.

1:03:59Jason Stewart:We had quite a meal. All the pastas, the salads. I love going there because it also feels like a serious, it kind of feels serious. You know what I'm saying? It feels like a serious restaurant and everything now is trying to be quirky and fun and there's nothing quirky and fun about it. It's just really good. People who take their job very seriously and want to do a good job. Just like us with this podcast. It's a very similar through line. All right, we are hitting the road. I mean, it's just week, Jason. I'm going to see you on Thursday in beautiful Minneapolis, our show Friday. If you're not in St.

1:04:33Paul, if you can't get tickets to Turf Club, please stream it on Veeps. I think it's like 15 bucks. We're going to have some surprises for you. It should be fun. Chicago, Saturday night. We'll see you there at Lincoln Hall. then we got a few days off before we hit hit Toronto and DC but we'll be there soon and London get your tickets I know you've been watching Oasis we're all very excited to be there August August 4th at the 100 Club in Soho and July

1:05:00Jason Stewart:20th day after our Chicago show them jeans throwing out the first pitch at the Cubs Red Sox game tune in live stream it nowhere do they show that on TV good question they might I think if you care enough to watch me you'll find out if you're paying if you're paying for mlb red zone you may be able to maybe able to check it out um yeah somebody was telling me that they people can actually bet on the first pitch like not not the first pitch of the actual game but like whoever the that's pretty funny celebrity guest first pitcher they can bet if it's going to be like a ball or a strike i guess that's a nice binary bet that's the kind of bet i would take and if i if i i would you know what man i want to bet against you because it's funny but i would bet for you i would bet for a strike because that's what i believe in my heart the other thing the that power for me i could be a fall guy oh we could we could make some money you're saying somebody in vegas can make make a couple calls i'll take a i'll throw a ball if i have a ball bounce that shit up there i don't care for a couple hundred bucks um all right a couple hundred howlonggone.com get your tickets we'll See you this week.

1:06:11And thank you for listening.

1:06:12Jason Stewart:Bye-bye. So go, baby, go, baby, go, baby, go, baby, go, baby, go. Say go, baby, go, baby, go, baby, go, baby, go, baby, go. Fall is the perfect time to refresh and reorganize your space. At the Home Depot, find power tools and tool sets starting at$50 to help tackle DIY projects, home updates, and more. Whether you're drilling brackets to support new shelving or sharpening your hedge trimmer blade with an angle grinder, the Home Depot has the tools you need to check projects off your list. Shop Labor Day savings at the Home Depot and gear up for fall projects with the right tools to keep your projects moving.

From the publisher

One-on-one pod today, Chris is in New York, and Jason is home in Glendale. We chat about vitamin pee, Vanessa Carlton ft. Drake at Wireless Festival, Chris went to the Clipse record release, the problem with third-wave soft serve, all the fun restaurants we ate at this weekend, custom Oreos, the Bieber record, Bad Bunny's Rainforest Cafe set design, our different styles of steering wheel drumming, using social media to annouce what city you're in, veggie sandwiches, and see us live this weekend in St Paul and Chicago, see TJ throw out the first pitch at a Cubs game on the 20th, and stream us live on Veeps July 19th.

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