822. - Joe Keery / Djo

29:53Or at least that's what you tell your mom, at least. That's what I tell my mom and my wife and anyone else who will listen. And you can sweat them, you know, sweat them a little bit. You make it your own. And then eventually. I'm adding flavor. I'm adding flavor. Certainly some sort of flavor. I would imagine. I'm adding my own salt.

30:08Jason Stewart:Yeah, we got a video of you jumping in the ocean with that on, Chris. Oh, man. The value skyrockets at that point. Cha-ching. Are you collecting t-shirts or no? No, I don't collect t-shirts. It's on tour when we were just going on tour. They're, you know, we're doing a little shopping here and there. You and the fellas hitting the vintage stores. That's pretty fun. That's quite fun. Look at this motherfucker. It's so tame. That's pretty fun. It's quite fun. I'm like a pretty tame guy, I think, generally. No, it's cool. You have a nice disposition that has probably allowed you to do all this stuff because you seem relatively unfazed, which is a nice way to be.

30:47Yeah, I don't know. It's all just like ridiculous and crazy, I guess. That's right. The fact that any of this has been able to, that I can do this for my job. And I mean, I can lose sight of that sometimes, but I try to remind myself like, dude, your life is amazing and it could be horrible and you're really lucky. So every time I think about that, I guess it's also like a way to scare myself straight. Like, you know, don't do anything too crazy because you could be, you know, back to bussing tables. and this could all be over yeah this could all be over no that's your gratitude on player get

31:20Jason Stewart:your gratitude on oh that's funny i have a tattoo that says that right over here it's so weird that you mentioned that it seems like you're pretty void of social media you you kind of stay away from that and i think that's probably the best well maybe as much as i can because you don't have like just uh the joe instagram or twitter or whatever but you have one for your musical project which is kind of like when you know my wife's mom will create an instagram profile for like a dog or a cat as a way to you'll be sneak through yeah that's exactly right like i don't i don't have instagram i mean what i do for my band it has 1.4 million but i mean i don't you know i don't use it yeah that's not my thing that's marketing tools and everything but but all that is to say you're probably not spending hours and hours looking at other people's lives and bodies and vacation schedules and things like that so it's helping keep the head on on the shoulders it's a slippery slope but dude i mean for anyone it's a slippery slope i you know if i have to i'll get like you know oh we gotta post this stuff and we're about the tour da da da da and then you download the app and then all of a sudden like you're like fuck i spent like like six hours on that in the past two days like this is like such a it's just like such a uh this the thing that made me feel so bad about myself for using it is like if you think about all the cumulative time that you spend looking at some random app when you die it's like a disgusting number it's like don't don't bring that up don't bring that up please don't it's horrible it's actually horrible and it makes you feel so bad about yourself but like they designed it for you to get totally addicted to it it's like those motherfuckers man no it's true it is those motherfuckers we're finding that a lot of our sort of musician peers are in a position where they've reached enough success where they don't use it either it's like i actually i understand that it's like a tool but i have a label and a manager that can handle that i don't get some help yeah i don't have to engage like i think it is a smart thing to do if you're trying to make stuff constantly you need to be in a different mindset yeah than me who can i have the freedom to mindlessly scroll on instagram and ruin my life it's a full-time job doing like running an instagram page is a really you got to really kind of thank you and it takes a lot of like planning and it takes a lot of shit that i'm really bad at and the reason that like i'm making music isn't because i want to run an instagram page it's because i want to screw around with my you know dumb toys adult adult you know guitar you know just fiddle around all that yeah that's your job that that should be other other people in the musical world that we interview on this podcast use it social media for you know maybe some other reasons you know what I mean maybe they're a little more active in the DMs we'll say they use it as a marketing tool quote unquote Joe ain't seen the inside of a DM in a decade he said I don't even know I don't know what the fuck you're talking about I've never opened one never seen one DM what is that stand for again?

34:21I like Depeche Mode they're cool what do you mean? Depeche Mode rocks

34:26Jason Stewart:Yeah, I'm on test mode, man Yeah, I mean, Joe Even if the finger starts moving up Towards that inbox Meta, like your business manager Just has meta, just pull the plug, just crash it Yeah, just block it It goes directly to Reverb.com Redirect A quick redirect You guys played Glastonbury, right? No cap, this is a service I use all the time, Jason, because I'm not like you. I'm not super handy. I don't have a toolbox. Thank God there's TaskRabbit. So when I need some of my art hung or something put together, maybe some shelving units or whatever it may be, I always call TaskRabbit and a nice young person with a backpack stocked with tools and other useful items shows up and takes care of any problem I have.

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36:48Propel Fitness Water with Gatorade electrolytes, zero sugar and vitamins. Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self. What propels you? Propel with Gatorade electrolytes. Yeah, that was insanely fun. Oh my God. That festival, have you guys been to that festival? You know, this is something that I struggle with a lot because I want to go. this year particularly would have been the best year for me to go and i know that i can't because i'm 42 i'm sober and i can't i don't think i could do five days i can understand that five days it's a long time it is no joke did you get did you go did you guys go in and out or did you hang out after your set we were there from saturday we rolled up well you know we woke up and off the bus we gotta get off the bus at you know 10 a.m on saturday and we were there until um sunday evening so we were there for like you know 36 hours yeah and it seemed like a long time and it was fun don't get me wrong i saw like more music than any festival i've ever been to and and it had a fantastic time but it's intense man it's like full on the only people i know that are our age that go have been going for so long that they have like muscle memory it's like their culture yes are they british yes yes they're all british the british the british folks they everybody over there is like mate like can you believe it man it's amazing isn't it like like they have such pride in this festival which i understand because it's like we're back amongst it lads

38:27Jason Stewart:yeah yeah it's iconic i mean i think that's why why the brits have a little little bit of a leg up on us because other than like the gathering of the juggalos america would not touch that level of of filth with a 10-foot pole and you had to have these you know millionaire celebs out there mucking it up with everybody else you know getting sleep on the ground where you can and drinking warm beer that somebody get you know it really does capture that and america hasn't had that since the 60s probably other than the juggalos of course definitely no that is you're totally you're dead on with it and it's like i mean you you did get helicoptered in and out of the of the muck but yeah i mean i did take a helicopter and i did have you know the roads were troublesome i did get a couple b12 you know ivs every every hour otherwise it was totally normal it was totally in between the ivs it was intense the idea of being able to sort of wait in line for a pint flanked by alexa chung and sienna miller and then you see the libertines play and then you sleep on the ground that does sound pretty good like overall it's cool there yeah and it has the identity of the festival is different than i've been to a couple i've we been to coachella been to lalapalooza been to austin psych fest been to some just like a random of Boston calling and this festival is like I feel like it originated the idea of like kind of a festy person and so when you kind of go there you're like oh this is what every festival is trying to do sure this is the blueprint this is the blueprint like this is the blueprint and it's like this is like where the stereotype is from and every and not a bad way I just mean like it's uh people there are like very and nothing bad happens there if you think about it like everybody is looking out for each other so in america we're getting murders there's no way that's going to go down there's no way that's going they can't even bonnaroo gets canceled because it rains they can't they can't handle this stealing goods from tents yeah they can't handle this well after you played and you're kind of wandering around maybe you have a little disguise on maybe the hats tucked down a little bit low are people being i feel like people are being more respectful of of celebs over there than they are in america as well yeah yeah people i you know a couple people said hey i love you know love the set or whatever and festivals are hard man it's like a different because a lot of people aren't there for the whole time people are seeing a bunch of different music and all in all my i think the experience at that festival was my favorite festival experience we've ever had just it felt like felt a little easier i guess maybe yeah yeah yeah yeah looser interesting i do think the audience is also very um like you're right there's like a lot going on obviously but i think they're all like you're saying sort of like psych to be there and like engaged in a way yes that is a little different too and i think the overall energy of the festival having never been in my entire life feels like it creates a place where the energy polices itself where the bands who are normally yelling at the sound guy and screaming at the monitor tech and complaining about this thing and that it's a little more like hey we're leaving the ego at the door we're going a little more easy breezy we know that it's you know things are not going to be exactly how you want them to be and we're not going to be a fucking knobhead about it yeah yeah yeah i think so i love that that's what i try to encourage in people as well yeah i try to set that i try to set that tone as often as possible did you uh after you finished had a couple loggers.

42:10Jason Stewart:Did you wander into maybe a little rave cave somewhere deep into the woods? Come on, you know me, man. I'm in bed by 10. So you didn't watch Charlie and George DJ with like A.G. Cook at 3 in the morning? No, well, I did see all... I saw Charlie, I saw A.G.'s show, saw little Father John. Joe snubbed for the apple dance yet again. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what I have to do. Starting to feel personal now. What do I have to do to be able to do this dance? I am sure that you have a see-through shirt just like Gracie Abrams. I'm sure you have something in your closet that would work. I have the shirt, but I just didn't get the call.

42:47I think I was like maybe 20 people down from Top Choice. Sure. There's a list. I think there's a list.

42:52Jason Stewart:We're thinking about it on the Delta upgrade list. You were not in the top three. No, no, no. No, I don't. There's no global Apple Dance certificates you can use for your upgrade. We keep bringing up mesh this week on the podcast. Do you own any mesh shirts? I don't think so. Well, I have like a hockey penny from like a while ago, actually. I'm unloading my closet right now because I'm like moving into this place. What do you mean by penny? I'm sorry. I'm not familiar with that term. You know like a penny? Like you put it on if you're like scrimmaging or something like that. So it's like a scrimmage jersey, basically.

43:26Pretty much, yeah. And it's kind of like sort of like mesh, but not. I mean, it's like fake. Right, right, right. Do you guys have any mesh? I think it's, I have some gauzy material shirts that are a little bit transparent. Like, you know what I mean? Like a gauzy texture, I'm saying. That's not mesh. But it is somewhat see-through. Mesh is too obvious to me. Mesh is.

43:49Jason Stewart:Mesh, the holes are big enough to where you could read a book through it. Exactly, yeah. I don't need anybody seeing that. No, I feel the same way. I'm like, I'm past the time where I could probably pull mesh off and it's not going to get any prettier. Your body's really bad. I know. It's all downhill from here. It's all downhill from here. Okay, I want to go back a little bit musically. Let's say we go back, because you're what, early 30s? Yeah, 33. Okay, so let's say maybe like 2005-ish. Yeah. When the young Joe was being musically crafted and shaped. What were we listening to then? I mean, I was very into classic rock, like ACDC.

44:33love hcdc when i was a kid especially come on bro not hcdc your boston is showing bro your boston is out your boston is all the way out you want to hear what's even worse the cars big one the cars are cool no the cars are cool that's boston baby i know that's why you're that's well you know the best man the best band from boston unless i'm missing something that joaquin phoenix did is the lemon heads oh well i mean they are amazing too but i was gonna say boston honestly boston the band boston that album that was one of my first albums my dad got me foreplay long time that that is just burned into my brain that so like classic rock stuff obviously was very big for me and then kind of like daft punk i guess was also a real big one like listening to discovery i kind of i got a laptop around that time and downloaded a bunch of music illegally and that was one of the artists sure i downloaded tribe called quest was another one that randomly i don't know why i downloaded um a lot of their music um okay that was like the that was like black eyed peas so i kind of like black eyed peas kind of random who was it more

45:39Jason Stewart:like honestly black eyed peas are having a huge renaissance right now renaissance are they really because current modern pop music is sort of depressing and minor and and black eyed peas for all of their faults made legitimate, fun, partying music that is actually hitting better than we realized and we didn't know what we had back then. I think it's true, and everything sort of moves, obviously, in cycles, so it's only a matter of... And also why Daft Punk is still the number one electronic group. Fantastic. Yeah. They're kind of undeniable. I didn't know that about Black Eyed Peas, Jason. I'm going to keep my ears perked.

46:20Jason Stewart:I mean, for better and for worse. LMFAO is coming back as well. Come on, come on. Straight up, bro. I thought he was a tennis player now. I thought he was a tennis player now. He is a tennis player. Yeah, he's battling out in the 147th round of the Iowa International Open as well as climbing the charts once again. Good for it. He's getting his mailbox money. Good for Red Fu. Are you guys tennis fans? You guys watch Wimbledon? Oh, I watched it. Yeah, I had it on. I love Wimbledon and the French and the US Open, all the majors, because I can have them on mute all day while I'm working and sort of dip in and dip out of it.

46:57I'm just not. Alcaraz doesn't do it for me. I find him annoying. And I like the Americans because they have, like, attitude and they're kind of fun. Yeah. But I don't know if they're ever going to be able to beat Sinner and Alcaraz. That's the problem. Yeah, Sinner's looking quite good these days. Is that your guy? Kind of. I think so. Yeah, he's great. He's just, like, kind of unbelievable.

47:18Jason Stewart:He's number one for a reason. I like the way he looks. like he looks sophisticated yeah in a way kind of the way that like the one that like Federer the way that kind of Federer did like like very composed um and I know that goes against what I'm saying because I want somebody who's I don't I don't need Kyrgios but like a Tiafoe or a Ben like kind of like having fun with it where these guys are like surgical certainly they are yeah certainly yeah what is up with Kyrgios he's kind of well he's not in the mix anymore he's almost like an announcer sort of personality. Yeah, he's a commentator, Jason.

47:52I don't know if he's on Tennis Channel. But is he ever going to

47:56Jason Stewart:play again? No, I don't think so. No. He's just going to wear ugly Team Jordans for the rest of his life. How old is he? He's probably like what? My age maybe? He's 33? He's 30. He's crazy. 30 only? Holy shit, man. But he was so fun. I saw him play once at the Atlanta Open. He's so good. And it was so fun. and like I don't care who wins or loses it's just like actually fun to watch which is he's an amazing player too he's like truly gifted did you go to Wimbledon no I um never been to Wimbledon I've been to the U.S. Open before that's that I went to that last two years I guess with my parents and that's amazing U.S.

48:34Open's amazing and then I went to the Atlanta Open actually too you did go yeah it's fun because it's like you can get tickets like I paid 200 bucks to sit you know know in the fourth row yeah and it's like it's it's just that's what i've always been told by my real heads is that like if you really just want to watch tennis go to charleston go to cincinnati go to atlanta and just stay for the weekend and it's gonna be it's still cheaper than going to the u.s open oh my god yeah yeah it's crazy i just i've gotten caught at the u.s open on one of those like i'm with a friend who loved rafa too much and we had to stay till like 2 30 a.m You know what I mean?

49:09I just don't have that in me. Yeah. I just don't have that in me. I gotta go home. That's late.

49:14Jason Stewart:Joe, back to music really quick. I was listening to the new record. My wife and I were enjoying it this morning. Hey, thanks. In Palm Springs. I couldn't help but notice some Strokes influence in the tunes. Oh, for sure. But is it possible that you have made Strokes sounding music better than the Strokes can make in 2025? Absolutely not. I may have worded. I mean, obviously, you're not going to answer that question with any other answer other than that. But I was thinking like, you know, Julian's got the voids and he's doing that thing and current strokes music. And I was like, I think this motherfucker may be strokesing better than the strokes are strokesing right now.

50:00Jason Stewart:Obviously, early strokes. Untouchable. Untouchable by anyone. yeah but you were too you you were too young for the the first strokes like real when yeah when it hit i was too young three dollar bill mtv2 like that that is that is one of my favorite live performances ever that is like an unbelievable stylish and amazing who shot it was that like a spike jones thing i think it was spike jones yeah no that shit's amazing and it comes up it's funny like like jason was saying about black eyed peas but i feel like that performance and like clips and screenshots and that come around every few years oh as like this is it those guys are that was i mean that's a huge that one i didn't mention when you asked me that other question but i definitely remember you know being in my parents garage and finding that exact concert because i used to you know i'm from outside of boston but i couldn't make music in the house because it was too loud so i'd go to this garage it was like an unheated it's just like a shed pretty much and you know roll little tiny joints and like smoke my joint and like record a little music and like i remember finding out about um the strokes and just being you know there's certain times and when you just connect with an artist and you're like i cannot believe somebody has done this it's like it's a combination of like you're so jealous of something but you also really want to be a part of something i guess and when i have this feeling i'm like oh this is something really so great so they're great i mean i like all their music i think all their music honestly will stand the test of time and i think it's just really interesting and they're all very talented and obviously julian is just kind of from a different planet sort of and has this like special x factor it's a way that people don't people aren't like that anymore kind of yeah he just is like different yeah he's different we saw them play a couple years ago they did a show for the J.Crew 40th anniversary at Pier 17 and they played like five songs and they looked like they hated being there.

51:57They were making fun of it the whole time, but they sounded, it was unbelievable how good they were. Yeah. It was so, it was like a real, it was like, these guys don't want to do this. It doesn't matter. They're just that good. Yeah. I'd only seen them, I'd seen them on the first tour and so I hadn't seen them in whatever, you know, 20 years or something at that point. So it was like, it was a fun, it was fun to be like, wow, these guys still got it.

52:19Jason Stewart:Yeah, I saw them their first LA show. Definitely, yes. Atlanta, I saw the Atlanta show for sure. Where was it in both? What was the venue that you guys saw them in? I saw them. The LA was at the Pal. It's called the Avalon now, but it was at the Palace. I think it was called the Palace back then. And then we went and saw them in San Diego the day before, I remember. It was probably, I don't know, 800-cap venue. I don't remember. I want to say Tabernacle, but I think Tabernacle is too big for that era. But I also feel like they're one of those bands that they booked a tour and then the record comes out.

52:57And then it's like, oh, shit, we got to upgrade every venue. This is crazy. Yeah, I think maybe that would make sense. Because Tabernacle, you've been there. It's special. It's cool. It's very cool. I saw Wilco there. Amazing show. That's a great Wilco venue. Oh, it was amazing. So, so good. I used to have a friend who worked the door there, and I would bring her dinner, and I could go to any show I wanted. So I saw Nick Cave, PJ Harvey, everything that came there I would go see. So I have some great memories attached to that place.

53:29Jason Stewart:So was this a friend's own situation? You were simping, bringing her dinner and stuff? No. I was like, if Ryan Adams is playing here, I need to be in the building. You said you want white meat or dark meat, and Ryan Adams is playing. Yeah, I said, do you want white meat or dark meat? If Nick Cave is playing for a thousand people, I need to be there. Well, speaking of you going down to the old shed and rolling up a pinner and firing up the Strat, it was feeling very Springsteen-esque. Just some American music being made in an American garage with some Levi's on kind of thing. And I was thinking about the Springsteen biopic with our friend.

54:13Jason Stewart:Yeah. Jeremy Allen White, yeah. Jeremy Allen White. Number one, you could have been a contender for that role. Number two, you know, are there any other, have anyone or has anyone approached you about any biopic role since you are an actor who is also a legitimate musician? Now, what if you play Julian in the Strokes biopic? Want to feel old? There we go. I don't know if they should make a biopic about those guys. Unfortunately, he's like, he's not, The age gap is not wide enough for that to really happen. He's like, I'll just do it myself. Joe, we could get you some ugly, puffy basketball sneakers so you can start getting into character if you want.

54:51Jason Stewart:Yeah, you could rip my jeans for me. Nick's colored Adidas high tops. I think we'd get you right there. We'd get you very close. So any interest in any bio picking? Did you audition for Bruce? No, I didn't audition for that. I think with these, it's hard, man. It's hard. I mean, there are good ones that exist, but it's... Like what? I don't know. Walk the line. It depends on what you're... Yeah, yeah. It depends on what you're... Hey, I like the doors. Yeah, the doors. I mean, it's like... I don't know. I think it's really hard, man. I think it's a hard thing to do well. Well, I feel like the problem is you have to either choose an amazing musician or an amazing actor.

55:37You don't get both. so they have to learn one of the skills kind of or at least improve greatly on one of the skills if you have to do both i think like the the main thing that i take issue with is like some of these people some of these people are iconic you know they're like larger than life and and something i love about movies is like when it shines a light on something that you don't know about so when we're making movies about these people who you know everything about it's sort of like what's the point of me watching this so yeah you know there are certain musicians who like i don't know honestly the first person who comes to mind is sid barrett you know founding member of pink floyd i'm not i do not want to do this movie uh founding member of pink floyd but you know has kind of this breakdown and sort of ends up exiting the band before kind of their most iconic music is made like that's kind of an interesting story another person who i think is would be really interesting is they made a Phil Lynette biopic.

56:34Lee, the singer of Thin Lizzy, who, you know, is Irish and black and just like an interesting guy and like lived an interesting life.

56:42Jason Stewart:And you don't want to play that role either, just to be clear. No, that one I don't think I would be right for. I don't think I'm super appropriate for that one. I don't think I'm right for that one. I was watching the Winehouse biopic and the girl from Industry, she does such a good job on that show and I'm watching her on the Winehouse doc and it's her film to lose. No one can do that. You're asking this person to do such an impossible task. Winehouse is a great example. Who's going to play Kurt Cobain in a movie? I guess you could do that, Joe. It's exactly what I mean. Who's really going to do it?

57:17It's too hard to really... Another one that was really interesting was the Todd Haynes movie, I'm Not There, I'm Still Here, the Bob Dylan one, where all the different actors played Bob Dylan at different periods of his life. So it's like more of a kaleidoscope about the essence of somebody rather than like a retelling of the story. And like, I don't know, Jamie Foxx does a really good Ray Charles, but does it make it a really good movie? I don't know. Like I'm impressed with him that he's able to do such a great Ray. But like, is the movie actually good? Sure, yeah. But is the movie actually good?

57:50Or like, what's kind of the point in a way?

57:52Jason Stewart:Do I want, is that a movie I would want to watch? Yes. I think and no I don't know it's fine if you do want to watch it but the bible's probably good I don't want to read it you know what I mean yeah that's your problem man you should read that thing that is Jason's got a lot of problems one thing he's never read read the bible all the way through what ails me uh Joe how's your protein intake going I actually just had a protein shake today so I'm going great okay wow okay well so I never have a protein shake and I went to a smoothie place on a break today when we were just working and I was like, you know what?

58:27Put protein in that.

58:29Jason Stewart:Was it because you were about to come do an episode of How Long Gone with Chris Black? Protein God? I just knew I had to be bulking. You had to do 100 push-outs before you got on. It's like when an R &B singer goes on stage, you got to have the shirt on. You're going Trey Songz mode for this podcast, I already know. And Joe's like, yeah, R &B singer. Only those guys do it. yeah yeah um are you like a manhattan guy or a brooklyn guy manhattan you are yeah smart nothing against brooklyn i love no no no it's fine this is a brooklyn negative podcast even though that's our probably biggest listenership is brooklyn negative i would rather live in connecticut you know what i mean if i'm not gonna live in new york i'm gonna live and i feel like you might is that true you really would yeah dude i'm not living in i mean those places are beautiful Don't get me wrong.

59:19Like Fort Greene, Cobble Hill, all that shit is fucking nice. It's just, it's more like Boston than it is New York though, to be honest. Well, I don't know if I agree with that. What would you, what would you compare it to? Man, that's a good question. You know what? There are parts of Brooklyn that actually do remind me of Cabbage Town. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I could see that for sure. And I do like that. I do like, you know, in Manhattan, you don't really, you know, there are like parts of it that are tucked away, but not really. Yeah. If you, yeah, there's a$10 million townhouse in the West village that's tucked away, but there's nothing, nothing else.

59:58There's nothing. No, there's like a million people walking by all the time. So there's something kind of like really nice that seems a little bit more neighborhood about certain areas over there, which I like. Yeah. No, it's a hundred percent more neighborhood. A hundred percent. Yeah.

1:00:09Jason Stewart:And Chris says, that's what's bad about it. But you go out there. Do you go out there? Did you say your sister lives there? Yeah. I've got one sister who lives in Greenpoint and another sister who lives in Fort Green. I'm kind of bouncing over there all the time. I'll say, okay. You're a man of the... You're on the city bike. You're on the train. I just rode over the bridge two days ago on that city bike. It's great. I've recently started using city bike in the last month. I'd never used it before. It's so good. It's the only way to get around. I feel stupid, but I was scared. Oh, it's so good.

1:00:39It's so, so good and very much worth it. You may look like a little bit of a fool. I feel like da-da-da-da-da, but it's worth it. Luckily, I always feel like a fool, so accessories don't really change that.

1:00:51Jason Stewart:As long as you don't wear a helmet, you'll be okay. That's your fight. You still look badass. Joe's like, I wore a hat. That's enough, right? That's enough, right? That'll protect me. You'll bounce right off. Okay, so you're all done filming final season of Stranger Things. That is behind you, and now that comes out in September or November? Yeah, November. So you have from now until November, and then as soon as that's over, then Stranger Things is behind you? Yeah, I mean, for me now, I'm pretty much, I'm done. I mean, all I got to do is... Although, I mean, you're going to have to do press tours and marketing and, you know, podcast appearances and stuff.

1:01:29Jason Stewart:You'd be surprised, though, actually. It's like the press is a little lighter than you'd think. Because there's so many people, they can divide it amongst all the people pretty evenly. So when it comes to actually promoting the show, you know, I have to do a couple weeks or something. but really it's not as bad as like a traditional sort of promo tour that you have to do for the film, I think. I think it's a lot easier. Yeah. I guess also with Netflix, they just press one button and Stranger Things. It's up. And people are going to, you know. They don't have to, you know, it's just like Coca-Cola.

1:02:00Jason Stewart:It's like, here it is. Here you go. Yeah, you don't have to. It's not a hard sell at this point. So is it bittersweet? Yeah. We're ready to close this chapter, move on? I mean, a mix. I think it was super bittersweet. I mean, kind of crazy, really, that I was doing it for so long. And it sort of time flies, I guess. And it's been nine years since it came out. It's like, what the hell? What happened? Sort of. And what's the year difference between these last two seasons? Oh, man, I think 15, maybe? 15 years since the last season came out? I have no idea. Because what happens basically with this stuff is you do a show.

1:02:37It becomes a runaway hit. everybody's booked everybody's doing other things and it's hard to get the band back together yeah to yeah i mean that's that's right yeah sure i mean the covet and the strike alone like sent us back i think two years it's like yeah that's pretty crazy yeah so since the last one came out in 2022 oh that's all yeah that's a long time 2022 okay yeah and you were in atlanta where there were like covet didn't matter yeah i was down there covet mattered less in atlanta than

1:03:05Jason Stewart:it did in LA. It did. We were definitely at Linux Square at the same time tearing them all up. Scientifically smart. No mask. No mask. Is the, do you have, does the appetite for acting, like are you good? Like do you want to just make music or do you think that you want? Man, if I get a job I'd love to do it. If I can book a job but I can't seem to do it. You're like, I'm actually open for some, so are you doing, do you do a lot of auditions? Like are you active? Oh yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I'll still like audition for stuff Do you want us to help you? Please. Can I give you my resume? Yeah. Any help?

1:03:41Do you guys know Lena Dunham? I love her in the show.

1:03:44Jason Stewart:We spend a lot of time at San Vicente Bungalows. Movers and Shakers. You ever heard of A24? I'll give you some headshots. You can just leave them on a couple tables. That would be fucking great. That's a great idea. They would think you were applying to be a waiter, but we could still figure it out. Oh, this guy. Yeah, he'd be a perfect barback. He'd be great here. He's good with fresh ice. Joe said no job too small right now. So he's kind of open. Yeah, no job too small. Anything. Open for anything. I just feel like when you – it's nice to have something else going on, though. Because I feel like if – Oh, man.

1:04:15I feel like if you do a TV show for nine years, for whatever, nine years in total, a lot of people, if they don't have something on deck, they're lost. Because it's like that's all you've done. Yeah. I mean, I've been lucky enough to get a couple things under the belt and worked on some other stuff. But to also have this job, you know, that looks like my hobby that's kind of turned into a job. It's been great because I'm a bit of a workaholic and like to keep busy. So, you know, if things were slow on the show or I was like kind of tied up but not working, which ends up happening a lot when you're on something like this, I kind of could just fill my own time and stay busy and just sort of ended up doing all this stuff.

1:04:59so I didn't plan on doing all this music really and then all of a sudden just sort of like happened this way again so just happy to be kind of moving and shaking and keep going you know look if the if the market demands that you have to give them what they want man that's just that's

1:05:15Jason Stewart:what it is when Glastonbury calls you must go you must go yeah I guess I'll play are we opening or closing we play before or after 1975 I'll do it anyway it doesn't matter okay yeah um how how How did you end up meeting Eugene, our dear friend of the show? For our listeners, Joe was in a film, what was that? It was 2020? Spree? Yeah. Something like that? Yeah. It came out right at the start of COVID. Eugene's been on the show a couple times. He's a fan favorite because he's such a fucking amazing little psycho. Smartest guy I've ever met. I don't know if that's definitely true or not. I think he's a Jason favorite.

1:05:56I don't know if everyone likes it as much. I like it quite a lot. Sure, sure, sure. He's an acquired taste in a good way. Truly amazing and a gifted filmmaker and just like a compelling and smart guy, I think. Just great.

1:06:09Jason Stewart:Did you have to convince your team about this or were they cool about you doing something that was a little more, you know, on the fringes of cinema? Yeah, I don't know if everybody was pumped about it, but I think like people kind of saw the vision. I guess like the script was just really funny to me and scary at the same time, which is a great combo. And I kind of just felt like, well, this is like a real different thing. I mean, generally, when you're working on something, you want to do the exact opposite. So I'd come from Stranger Things, which was kind of like traditional filmmaking. And the character was very much one thing.

1:06:45And this felt like kind of the opposite. So for me, it was just an enticing opportunity. What is your script reading strategy? Do you skim?

1:06:56Jason Stewart:You a skimmer? Do you go straight into it? I just got to go straight in. But I will say, you can tell pretty quickly, at least for me, if it's going to be something that you're into. If you struggle to finish the script or if you get bored, you're not going to, I don't know, it's probably boring. If you don't have Instagram on your phone and then you get bored, I would kill myself. I wouldn't know what to do. I'd be lost. What if the script is boring but the offer is high? You can make it work. I know people who have decided to do things that they don't want to do, and then they do it. I think if your hand is forced, that sucks.

1:07:32That's partly why I keep the overhead so low, because you don't want to be in that position where you're like, shit, I gotta do this, but it sucks.

1:07:40Jason Stewart:You gotta go back and do a couple Chicago fires. Keep the lights on. Exactly. Is that Joe on Law & Order Season 28? I thought he was kind of past this. I thought we'd kind of, you know. Not above extra work. That's weird. Burn victim four. Just a guest star on the table here. He just loves being on set. Yeah, no lines. Totally naked. No lines. Yeah, it was weird. They made me like lay down. It was like an autopsy thing, so I didn't have to talk. No lines, naked. Yeah, full frontal. I saved it for something that was really worth it. I was worried, but it was worth it. It paid off in the end. it paid off in the end well i guess it is good that the you do have the stranger things i mean i don't know how much money you have made from that but it has it's been a wildly successful show and i'm sure things have been okay so that can help you be very picky and choosy about what exactly you want to do i mean but sometimes it it seems i kind of like when sometimes people's hand is forced and then they end up doing something you know like uh charlie sheen on two and a half men where you're like what the fuck is going on this is sick and then he ends up just like killing it you know yeah i'm not saying that i don't want that to happen for you like mickey rourke in the wrestler i'm pretty sure yeah exactly exactly where it's like if i don't do this movie i'm going to have to sell my house so i'm going my bitch wife has taken everything that also um uh no country for old men brolin i'm pretty sure was like broke yeah right yeah for sure i mean it's the reason oasis is reuniting noel's getting divorced and he's gonna get taken to the cleaners so it's like it's good for everybody i didn't realize that is that true that's that sucks that i swear i swear i'm not joking i feel like they announced the divorce was happening and maybe six months later maybe a year i don't think it wasn't gonna put noel out on the street but he has a certain standard of living and kids who have a standard of living that he has to you know he was looking 20 years down the runway and saying he's like i got i got five i got five kids named anias that don't have jobs we got to figure something out like there's only so many burberry family campaigns we can do like we got bills i'd hate to sell the lake house or at least have to rent it out partially i'd hate to sell the crumbling mansion in the cotswolds it's it's got a lot of stone work we need to repair so so we're not spending the bucks on the balenciagas on the rick owens is we may we probably have some chrome in the wardrobe but are we how how are we in are we investing the money anywhere at least do you have somebody that deals with it and we don't talk about it or is a little real estate some stock oh yeah yeah i've got i've got myself at least covered in that regard i'm not doing nothing with it but just uh you're not doing nothing with it you're just not spending it which is yeah at least you're seeing some results you know if you don't have to i'm uh yeah i think that that's the smart approach i think that's the smart approach but we're not investing in uh restaurants your friends bar yeah you're not putting 50 grand into a pizza place that's gonna bomb and green point not yet i guess not yet you're like if you have any if you have any offer if you have any decks for me to look at i'd love to check it out any any friends from high school that have a t-shirt company in the works.

1:11:03Jason Stewart:That's a great idea, man. That's a really good idea. Once we finish, I'll send you my deck. I mean, no pressure, but... Genius, man. I shouldn't go to the pizza company. This is what the world needs. This is what the world needs. Do we have any more touring on the horizon this summer or rest of the year? Yeah, we're doing some opening shows for Gracie Abrams, which will be cool. Oh, nice. We're doing Lollapalooza, which I'm pretty excited to do because, you know, Chicago. We are too. We're doing Lollapalooza. What day, Jason? The 31st? The first day? Either that or the first. Are you going to be there?

1:11:41Are you going to be there? Yeah, I think I'm going to be there the whole weekend. Yeah. All right, well, let's hang. We'll be there. Let's hang. Love to. It's going to be great. Lollapalooza, I've had such a really nice time at that festival. So it'll be cool. And then we're doing some, like a month of touring at the end of September, like middle end of September through October um and so that'll be really kind of like a nice way to end the year and um okay you know working on new music and just yeah keeping it keeping the ball rolling I guess really and sort of like as these kind of fun opportunities pop up just hopefully things can kind of like slot in I kind of like I said I don't really have any acting jobs lined up so it's sort of like it's the first time in a long time that I've had nothing in the in the future so where do y 'all want me to play sure fuck it i'll come well i mean that being said

1:12:30Jason Stewart:you're doing two nights at the greek in la so it's not exactly like we're just you're not kicking the can down the line for the founder and you're doing real shows and multiple ones i can't yeah that is true that is how big how big is the band it's uh seven people so i mean it's basically an excuse to just get all your buddies to play together so the band is all my friends from Chicago, who I met through Waiting Tables. Love that. We love a real band story. It's so rare these days. It's also like you spend so much time on the road and why not apart from these guys being amazing musicians, it's populated just with my friends.

1:13:10A pal from my pal Sam who we grew up and went to first grade together and he worked at KPMG and has kind of you know been playing with the band so he's like this like business guy slash like rock rock so oh he's still he's still a consultant at kpmg but he's able to play guitar when you need

1:13:31Jason Stewart:him yeah so this is you're not the only millionaire person who has this as their side gig got it this guy's like yeah that's that's actually a really it's a bad man well now that you're telling me this great story of how everyone met and then you went off you did the acting you reunited with the original band we're going on tour post animal is what they're called by the way now I'm starting to say who's going to play Joe in the Joe biopic if I can't get that job then I'm truly a horrible actor but I'm saying your story is becoming worthy of a great biopic and whoever's going to play the young Joe hasn't even been born yet okay that is...

1:14:19Just wanted to leave you with some food for thought, Joe. Thank you for joining us.

1:14:23Jason Stewart:You don't have to marry them. They're just going to play you. No, we appreciate it. Good luck in the stew. Thanks, man. Honestly, we'll be in Lollapalooza, so we'll figure it out. What's the name? We'll see you at the after party, bro. Absolutely. Good to see you, man. We'll talk to you soon. Good to see you. Later.

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