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0:33how long gone coming to you live from the nation's capital we're at the doge dorms down in here in the in the wharf washington dc make some fucking noise the doge dorm i came up with that i feel

0:45Jason Stewart:like based on what save that for the stage tonight at the atlantis in washington dc i'm going to too late for a plug too late for a plug yeah uh i i we're in we're in an area we're at a hotel in an area that could be one of the most cursed parts of any town that i've ever been to in my entire life it's called the wharf it's called the wharf the hotel's perfectly fine the hotel's fine but the the the area is is it's referred to as the doge dorms by how long gone because it's apparently its residents at least in its early phases of it of its development were trump yeah not just supporters maybe employees it was it was literally literal doge folks yeah yeah this isn't just a clever joke this is just what it was it's not a types of people it is the people it is actual people yeah so basically we we had dinner last night with a friend of the show and ex-guest kyle chica and his beautiful wife and they were sort of we were all talking about it and i think i said it's not like because like i live in la and you you have lived in atlanta and in new york and there's a lot of these places where it'll just one day a whole entire street block or like a small chunk of the you know 10 of a city is just like oh now it's like a mall of the future in a way that i was saying it's a colony not a shopping center not a district not a neighborhood it was just like one day this was just whatever and now it's the gordon ramsay's hell's kitchen and a matcha fried chicken and waffle place and dude i walkable place i don't know i walked yesterday i mean today i walked around a little bit because i had to get some supplies and it's just like it feels like i think they designed these places so the residents ideally never have to leave it's like we're it's like a colony it's like we're in the air it's like we're in the uae or something where it's too hot to go outside right or you're on mars in a total recall style where so this is getting us ready for the eventual you know america 2.0 i think this is what most people want is the is the sad reality i think that's why these are popping up but the question is do they want it because it's what they want or it's because it's what government tell us that we want you know what i mean i don't think this has anything to do with the government i think it has to do with people's poor taste i don't think it has anything to do with the government i think it's people prioritizing do we have the is the taste in us or has the taste been planted in us no no i think it's basically the the strive for convenience is takes over everything which i understand to some extent but like it's nice well i guess they're saying like you know how this place used to be a walkable city and then we ruined it now we're gonna give you another we're gonna give I'll give you our version of a walkable city.

3:41Jason Stewart:Was this ever a walkable city, you think? Washington, D.C.? I'm sure many parts of it are extremely walkable. Yeah, yeah. Still, I'm sure. I just don't consider it like a walkable city. I think the train works well here, though. I've never taken it, but I think the train... I mean, you know. I mean, obviously, New York is a very walkable city, but that's just one little island. You can walk from one end to the other in half an hour. Yeah, but nowhere... Half a day. Like, no city is actually walkable besides New York or maybe London. Paris. There are lots of walkable areas. And this swamp that we're living in, this swamp part of D.C.

4:15Jason Stewart:This is walkable. It's very walkable. But I don't know how walkable it was before. Oh, it wasn't. I'm sure. They're taking, I guess the other word that Kyle used was astroturfed, which sums it up pretty well as well. But I'm always weary of these planned, walkable shopping center communities because they're all just only based and built around commerce. And just finding out new ways to separate you from your money and making you think that it's your idea. I'm not weary of it when it's for 48 hours and it's sort of convenient. I think living in a place like this is crazy. Yes. That is the difference.

4:56like being in a place you don't live where you have everything underneath you even if it's not exactly what you want it's still like what you want you know yeah i guess we've talked about this

5:06Jason Stewart:before people who live at the americana or the grove this is that this is that it's a less sexy version it only makes sense if you are a traveling professional athlete actor hey i'm gonna be in town for you know two months i need a fully furnished apartment that has a walgreens at the bottom and a starbucks next door and a freshie and a tucky and a trosty and a crunchy possibly it's possible that they want the government employees want that too because they're just they're just working so much like a 26 year old government employee works harder than we've ever worked in our entire lives probably yeah they're in and out of a heli patch i gotta to go to fallujah this weekend i don't know i don't have time to make dinner i don't know if that level maybe both levels maybe both levels i was thinking more foot soldiers living on the 43rd floor i got my hungry root dying on the line that's what i mean i think it's i get why people like it it's just um it's deprioritizing what counts you know i'm on a mega bus back from maryland beautiful maryland just right just right there if you say so just right there just the the greater dc area includes maryland and virginia yeah i can't wait to get back home to los angeles for just a few days but i'm i'm loving dc the last time we had a show here it was our my favorite show of the tour i don't remember it really i remember like you remember dc show i remember being good but i don't remember the specifics i guess is what i'm i remember the general and i'm the one who was faded uh yeah i'm sure you were faded i'm sure you were what's up with that memory dog do you need to take some type of terrible memory alpha brain well it's because nothing matters like none of your little uh injectables and pesticides and propofols none of those things do anything for the mental i don't think anything can help with memory a little beeswax i think all of it's fake cmos i don't remember my childhood at all i just know that i just like who cares like why do i need to remember the dc show from a year ago it doesn't really matter well i agree if i remember my social security number my birthday day i'm straight what at what age do you think you're gonna forget or you're not gonna be a thousand percent on the social security number oh i could fuck that up today if you asked me the wrong time really oh you can bro fuck up my atm password that i've had for 20 years sometimes just like four four digit number yeah we'll just be like oh oh shit no no it's the other well is your number easy to remember is it hard to remember it's what is it i knew that was coming just tell me it'd be easier for me to understand uh it's neither easy or hard it's just we'll totally bleep it it's regular okay it's regular i would say middle of the road yeah okay but i forget i could forget anything my mom will tell me some shit i'd be like what that happened to me it ain't nothing to forget it ain't nothing to forget and it's not even like i had a great childhood i just don't need to remember it okay yeah we're so we're not repressing no trauma i'm not catholic it's all good well the way i look at it our brain it's kind of like a hard drive mine's more of a yours is more of a zip drive disc limited capacity I'm a purple zip drive disc downsides you know I guess upsides it's cool it's vintage it's kind of unique physical media it's tangible and I think that's awesome it's like one of your big star shirts you can touch it downside limited storage capacity has the ability to physically and literally degrade at a certain point the cloud ain't gonna save you if left out in the sun too long things could go awry yeah i mean just like um just like a tesla motor it can only spin so many times before the whole thing's done so going going back to it me considering it a hard drive i i consider a hard drive that's has the most empty room to be a smooth slick running machine you got a one terabyte hard drive you got one gigabyte of files like where you're going with this it's efficient it's fast your ability to recall this information is is literally easier and quicker and there are so many memories in our minds that we don't need anymore that we've archived and you know we've processed them and they're down there and we need to remove a lot of these unnecessary memories in order to save room as our aging minds become worse and worse at recalling things and you see old people you see your grandparents calling you chris and me jason you know we're switching our names up and you got to make a left no did i say left i want you're like so you got to keep it the machine as greased as possible so i just got two terabytes baby i think it's i think it's working people who remember their like body count like this is don't hold on to that information it doesn't serve you because at some point what if you're on jeopardy or what if yeah you're you're gonna you've you've what if you were like walking down the street and some guys like can you name this song for five dollars and you're like you're too busy thinking about like the california mission report that you did when you're in fifth grade san luis ray yeah i don't remember at one point i knew all the the the state capitals you know but that's something and your young mind that occupied let's say 35 percent minimum of the total processing power of your little pea brand minimum and my brain is still pee that's the problem it's still pushing pee it's still pushing pee brain looks like pee pee it doesn't wow okay yellow diamonds yeah it looked like pee pee yellow diamonds uh yeah so get it all out of there remove but i i would say i know you're not ever gonna go on a waska journey i know you're never gonna do some crazy like drug thing i'm not a loser but i would say you should consider the the my version of a defragment it's a popular term with hard drives i'm familiar with defragment okay good i wasn't like i was raised on aol but i remember you got to defrag the drive yeah you gotta there's another i forgot what it's called but i would say the sensory deprivation that helps to really defrag and you know when you delete a bunch of photos and they're still in the recently deleted and you're sure you're gonna find them you know what I mean, the defrag, you do it.

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17:43Jason Stewart:Chuck Mangione passed at 84. Was he a trumpeter? I think that's what he did. 84 is pretty good. Good run. Living on borrowed time. Hulk Hogan is forever, to me, he sued Gawker, one of the greatest websites of all time. He ruined lives by suing Gawker because he fucked his homie's wife and got caught. That's your bad, Hulk. I mean, that is the, I mean, you know, that's a great debate that could really go either way because, you know, you've got the gawker, you've got the vulture, you've got these similar types of web, you know, we're going to expose, we're going to get the tea, the goss, the scandals.

18:23Jason Stewart:And it was kind of woke, but also, you know, you do the crime, you do the time, the narc aspect is, you know, like. There's a big narc aspect. a lot of things to consider it's it's hulk hogan like who i don't know i don't think i don't put him in any like he was literally a professional wrestler like how do you think about him in any sort of the sympathy yeah like who cares he was like a rich dumb guy from florida i mean you know i guess people grew up with it though hulk was a person too hulk was a human too of course we're all flawed never forget his daughter and her reality show oh yeah and and his son who was a dj for a while oh yeah i remember yeah yeah yeah hell yeah that was that's yeah between we've lost some reality tv royalty this this week really have yeah i saw somebody tweet saying like somebody better go keep an eye on flavor flave because in terms of the amount of you know top tier legendary reality television personalities hulk and flave and aussie that's like the rushmore right there well for since rushmore has four we could add brett michaels okay love of love of rock yeah it was a long running hit that's true long yeah and also you know it's always the one you know rick flair still alive and kicking you know what i mean that's because he's cool that's because he's cool that's the thing he's he's he's surviving strictly on coolness alone i think at this point yeah i mean you know with with hulk i mean i guess like ozzy he was cool i think he you know he just was old and life got him he he put a lot of miles on that and but different kind of miles you know there's wrestler miles and then there's ozzy miles hulk hogan wrestler miles hit a lot different hogan's body must have been just mangled i mean just the amount of problems he must have not not even from like a like heart health standpoint sure from like a just daily pain yeah i can't even also travis pastrana type shit yeah he must be a dixie he must have been on the fent patches well that's the that's the thing is because you got the you got the aussies who are like yeah i just do you know a quarter ounce of cocaine and drink a bottle of jack every day from 1960 to the year 2007 you know so i'm probably not gonna see a hundred and i'm probably you know he's not eating salmon brown rice bowls every day i'm sure he was eating okay but like he wasn't punishing his body as physically but then you got the wrestlers oh just they're destroying their body from the inside out and doing just as much drug and alcohol abuse on top of it well at least at that point i feel like now life expectancy for a pro wrestler if you came up in the 70s 80s like if you touch 50 you're blessed i think that i feel like it's like skateboarding where now they probably take it seriously and they treat it like athlete style but i think you're right and then they were definitely like they're wearing helmets and knee pads they were they were drunk i mean we're doing a doing a sash on the curb with like a mouth guard in i just thought it would be smart to wear all my pads i just wanted to protect myself i hate to scratch my knee yeah we just got back from chicago world they'll call you a beep if you're wearing a helmet on a motorcycle dude that is so true though that is so true you see a guy riding a motorcycle in chicago with a helmet on you're like this fucking cool yeah look at this guy what uh what kind of pussy are you fucking life i mean i don't know when also when did that happen when did it become like the fact that there are states where you don't have to wear a helmet is pretty crazy yeah and then there's some states where they have to put a sign on the door that says no guns allowed sure that's a lot of states which is a lot of states and when you see it you're like oh yeah everyone around here has a gun i think the helmet thing is only a few places left because it's so stupid i mean it does when you see a guy riding a motorcycle or a lady or a non-binary motor queen vixen with no helmet on you're like yeah hell yeah that's fucking sick You see an old guy on a purple Harley listening to the dead, just kind of bending corners.

22:41They love blasting music out of those speakers.

22:43Jason Stewart:Cool. You see an old black guy driving past the McDonald's. On the chopper. On a big old chopper bumping Jodeci. The thing about the chopper. Speakers all blown out and shit. This doesn't seem comfortable for long periods of time. For our listeners at home, he's doing the Rachel Kushner style ape hangers, hangers a maddie matheson 70s kind of easy rider thing and you're talking about how it's probably not comfortable to do it that is the whole point no of course but it's not comfortable to do a 500 pound squat either chris yeah but that's do it because you can't you do it once you don't have to ride for two hours in that position that's the difference look repetitive motion will destroy the body.

23:26Ask Hulk Hogan. Damn. This just can't, this cannot, there's no way that you can sustain that for that long. I don't care how tough you are. Of course not. That's the whole point. I don't think that is the point because they like to ride for long periods of time. You build it up.

23:42Jason Stewart:It's like, I don't believe that. It's how much of, we don't ride for comfort. We ride to haul ass feel American steel between our thighs. I just don't think this looks cool either though it looks like you're stretching you are literally stretching but it's just this so dumb it's so illogical it doesn't look any cooler than a regular motorcycle is what i'm saying i think it's a different motorcycles don't look cool it's a form of transportation you know it's it's a self-harm it's like a masochistic punishment kind of thing it's like i get it you just prefer it and you go with it and it's this is how i choose to signal my manliness and my badassery.

24:22Jason Stewart:Sure. And you gotta let them do it. Well, I'm not, hey, I'm not policing anybody. And also, as we get older, that underarm flab, that probably really helps. It's like a lymphatic drainage for the mongol in your family. You're just keeping it up. You're keeping it up and it's going... Oh, I didn't think about the... The vibration. The vibration's good. Especially once you get those RPMs up, you're redlining the Indian down I-95. Whoa, chill. Think of the amount of drainage. I mean... anyway rest in peace Hulk Hogan you were a racist but you know you were funny one of the best tweeters of all time wrestling I just can't believe that wrestling is a thing it shocks me when I think about it logically I think it's amazing actually and it's bigger than it ever has been yeah I think what I love about it is that everyone in 2025 all knows what's going on we're in on it yeah we all know it's fake we know the behind the scenes we're watching the podcasts and they're telling you everything that's happening all the wrestlers are going on chat shows and telling you all the secrets and everyone still watches it because you're like it's just true pageantry in a time where that doesn't exist anymore unless it's like the voice it's one of the most embarrassing things you can be interested in but i also think that it's um i also think that it's really plays into nostalgia in a way that most things don't right i think i think that it was i think that if you grew up with that then it really sticks with you if you as an adult i mean i grew up with it but it didn't stick with me no no obviously not but i'm just saying i think it was like when that was popular there was a lot less to choose from as a kid you know what i'm saying i think a lot of people were exposed to it while the brain was forming yeah it sticks with you People have those same arguments when they're talking about like, oh, well, you know, Kimmel only gets three million back in the day.

26:18Jason Stewart:Carson was getting 30 million. And you're like, bro, there was two channels. No, there's no. It's very different. That was it. Different equation. Very different equation. But wrestling is pageantry. I agree with you on that. I think it's still. Let the fellas have a soap opera. Yeah. It is a soap opera for fellas. I appreciate the physicality of it, of course. Pause. Whereas I'm more into it for the articles. You love the storytelling. I'm just here for the character arc on John Cena this season. He's really bringing it. I'm not a Cena fan. My followers know that. But yeah, I'm a storyteller, I guess.

26:52Jason Stewart:Speaking of dudes touching each other a bunch, let's talk a little bit about Pedro Pascal. There's a lot of people who are saying, we need to have a talk about Pedro's behavior. He's on the press tour for the movie. For Fantastic Four. Cuatro Fantástico. Fantastic Four. And he is, I guess, there's a Vanessa Kirby, I think is her name. There's like a blonde. Or maybe it's for a different movie. It's been happening for years. Yeah, but today specifically there's someone. Yeah, there is. Because she's married and pregnant. Sure. So they're making it a bigger. So like Daily Mail is basically, I'm like the fact that everyone still pretends that he's straight on this level where they get mad at him for the way he acts is, it's bordering on like how stupid do you think we are?

27:53Jason Stewart:well is it pedro's i mean isn't it okay if pedro doesn't want to publicly come out of course of course but i'm saying that as a as as a writer at any publication you know as good as well as i know that pedro is gay so writing that story is disingenuous and wrong i agree that's that's what i'm saying yeah and i get you know people say it's his anxiety and like this is his way of dealing with anxiety and it's all i'm back i can find some guys i know that have helped him ease his anxiety if i looked hard enough but i'm not gonna do that and it is you know it's i don't know i'm of two minds because it's a very easy subject to make jokes about it's like funny it is very funny but then it also the other side is like is there some dark thing where pedro is at odds and he really wants to come out but he's afraid it's gone too far and now he's old and is it going to affect his career of course that's at play or he would be out i mean that has to be part of it it's it's not it's just like one of the most it's like a does it or or even darker like does he have some type of non-disclosure or sexuality agreement with a pub, you know, with one of the studios or whatever.

29:10I just don't think that, I think that it all...

29:13Jason Stewart:Because once he turns gay, one door opens, another one closes because a lot of opportunities arise for him, pause, but then if he's being, you know, he's in every single movie. There's 10 movies at the theater. He's the leading man in six of them. And he is playing a hunky straight man who fucks chicks. So look, if he's gay, is that going to fuck up his money? No cap. This is a service I use all the time, Jason, because you know, I'm not like you. I'm not super handy. I don't have a toolbox. Thank God there's TaskRabbit. So when I need some of my, you know, art hung or something put together, maybe, you know, some shelving units or whatever it may be, I always call TaskRabbit and a nice young person with a backpack stocked with tools and other useful items shows up and takes care of any problem I have.

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31:50i mean possibly but he still looks straight like a nut you know what i mean the way that lee pace looks straight it's like you you could play whatever you want because you're that good looking and it's like masculine do you have you ever met features have you ever met a person

32:06Jason Stewart:or have you been friends with anyone who deals with their social anxiety or stress by touching the homies not that i know of i mean unless the source of stress is like alcohol and cocaine and they're a little but i think i think but i guess what i'm finding i mean other than when you're like hanging out with a a five-year-old or younger where you know they grab onto leg grab onto leg when it gets too crazy at disneyland i think i think my real problem with this is is that it feels like they are like vilifying him in this way for not doing anything wrong like it's not like like you can't try to make this guy out to be like a weird predator because he's like friendly with his co-star who clearly is okay with it it just doesn't it's it's the subtext is all wrong yeah i think because the area is too gray that's where people are getting frustrated it's a shit or get off the pot it's a come out of the closet or stop touching our hose you can't have both yeah sure but i was i would like to think there's a scenario where pedro is straight he is into touching on women and he wants you to think that he's gay because when it really boils down to it gay or straight pedro pascal can take anyone's chick at any time sure i think it's i think even if pedro is gay and you know you're you hit the button on the hotel elevator and pedro says you want to come up to my room and um you could suck my dick and then i thought you were gay pedro and he's like oh yeah whatever like every he he could he can have it all you know what i mean he can have his cake and eat it too he can have it all if he's a straight person who's pretending to be gay i think it could be touching i wish that your diabolical theories were true but i'm pretty sure he's just a successful gay man who doesn't want to fuck up his leading man money and he's getting hit in on the on any i mean i it would be crazy to act like you've never met the gay homie who is touchy with your wife or girlfriend like that's just like a normal i we i just we can't make everything like you see that you see what you see what he's doing but we've all had the straight homie who likes to you know put his hand on the on the lower back of your chick or sure sure but that's just you can but if you look at what they're claiming it is not that that's the thing it's like we're talking you know what i mean it's not like we're drunk and i'm like brushing by you too closely it's like he's in like deep conversation with someone and they're like making eye contact you know what i mean it's not like it's like he does weird shit though yeah i mean he's a weird guy i saw one was it willem defoe there was some older actor like that and it was willem's wife i think and then pedro they're like having a funny jokey moment and then pedro out of nowhere just sort of uncontrollably takes his hand and does this to his wife's face or maybe it was Sean Penn it was Defoe or Penn and then he's like uh what are you doing well it's definitely Sean Penn Sean Penn's looking for a fight at all times Defoe's like he next he's like I don't even know this chick but I'm gonna fight him I'm gonna beat your ass Sean Penn will be will forget that his wife is right there and beat your ass I just think we gotta let Pedro cook man i just don't i'm just like i don't really understand what the i think he's gotten so famous that's the only reason things like this are even part of the conversation it's because he's so well liked and in so many successful movies that people are looking for something to sort of pick apart i wonder if him and bad bunny ever just like have like a standing monthly meeting where they exchange ideas on how they're oh they might yeah they're exchanging something it's called bodily fluids i gonna go there i knew you're gonna in in before gay sex but i think when they're done poking and sucking and doing whatever when when they're waiting for the ice cream sundae to come to the hotel room while they're gonna watch the screener for devil wears prada 2 yeah they already have it are they exchanging ideas on how they sort of navigate through the waters of i think i don't think there's anything to navigate.

36:38I think it's like, I just never say anything. And that's it. That's the plan. That's the plan, yeah. It's a very simple... Kind of like Trump. Yeah. It's like you can't... Once you start making declarations, that's when people start... Then you're in trouble.

36:50Jason Stewart:So Trump's in trouble because his logic and theory... You said I ain't on that list. It's deny everything. Deny, deny, deny. And Pedro and Bad Bunny said... What are you talking about? Just nothing. Just silence. I don't know what you mean. We're good. deny what there's nothing there's no deny there's no confirm i appreciate their approach the high road i appreciate that in 2025 you can walk that line and it works and the sort of question of it all helps you with a certain audience i guess is what i'm trying to say i mean even with us like it's it's fun to think about this and talk about i'm having a blast right but i just mean like it's like a fun it's like oh this i don't think this is a strategy i think it's like well shit i don't know i'm not gonna talk about another pedal to this flower a lot of people say hey bye doesn't exist oh i hate a bye motherfucker blah blah blah blah maybe that's the secret to being by like pedro or bad bunny you can never be accused of being by if you never say i'm by yeah people who have to knock on the door hey guys guess what i'm by now when you make the declaration that you're bi that's when people i think get upset i think the problem is there's never been a bi person it's like being vegan like they're gonna tell you they're gonna tell you how do you know if someone's bi don't worry they'll tell you exactly bisexuality crossfit and veganism the three things you can't stop talking about the three horsemen you gotta you gotta let somebody you know within the first hour of meeting them you gotta let them know i wonder i mean that's But I have met people who quietly enjoy a vegan lifestyle and CrossFit and bisexuality.

38:34Jason Stewart:I do a podcast three days a week with one of them. I don't know how you do it, brother. CrossFit isn't for me, dude. We'll call it extreme fitness. Look, you leave it all on the floor every day, but you don't post selfies all the time. You're not in r slash Barry's Boot Camp, hotties, Dallas.

38:54Jason Stewart:why you gotta bring dallas into it look i know you're a moderator it's not a big deal i know you're a mod um let's see here what else we got um the time magazine top 100 podcast lists came out and i'm i'm really realizing that you know i just hate a list the the any list that you probably have to pay money to enter i don't think you have to pay money but i think the advertisers pay greatly because it's the only thing that gets clicks like i think it's like the way that the the forbes only exists for that list like forbes would not be in business without that list that list dictates their entire time if time doesn't do the time 100 of whatever that is i don't i think time might cease to exist man what time used to be the the greatest and biggest magazine in the world and now it's a goddamn listicle huh i mean i don't i've never looked at time magazine so i don't really know i mean it's it's before our time part sure totally i i don't know if it's 60s 70s it was yeah yeah it's that in the bible in terms of text i'm gonna go bible but yeah i feel you i i don't know if but i didn't look at that list because i also think the lists whether they're music or podcasts or people or people under a certain age that are successful it just doesn't feel like um information i care about like it just if it's like i don't care what time thinks of podcasting that's not what i i come to that magazine i don't like i don't really care what anyone thinks of podcasting because i don't know who like there's no rolling stone or whatever of podcast there's no like historical sort of publication that you're like even though this doesn't feel super relevant now like this was it yeah i guess i mean maybe if pitchfork i think pitchfork should do yeah that's actually a good idea because you have like i was thinking you said rolling stone i'm thinking music when's the last time anyone respected the grammys or in their decisions you know it's like why am i letting some or or the oscars why am i letting some old white guy tell me what the best hip-hop album is or metal album is it's always just like the same thing over and over again the same artists every single time it's the same podcast every single time her is nominated in several different categories it's just it's this so i we need i think lists are okay as long as it's an honest real list and it's not the list that's like the the best podcasts are the ones that are the most listened to and then have subject matter that advertisers like so it's like rich diversity and yeah cultural awareness i just don't think that you can i don't know something about music feels more objective to me where like i can appreciate something that i also don't want to listen to i can be like damn this is good as fuck but i never need to listen to it it deserves an award podcasting i do not think of it that way like there's no way i could listen to a podcast that i'm not interested in and be like that's good it's just not how it works interesting you know what i mean because it's like there's too much like i don't know there's no artistry it's just like somebody being themselves or doing too much research on a subject i don't care about it's tough to like i'm not going to just just power through that if i when there's other choices that are entertaining it doesn't it doesn't make sense but i think that's the thing with the what was number one like smart list or something i don't even now yeah i mean culture east us every time they well they they started their own award show they're like you know what fuck it we're gonna do our own award show that honestly sick we talk a lot of mess no that's on those guys really cool i would say that that is a very smart idea awesome because they're literally doing exactly what we're doing which is saying awards and lists are stupid it's an archaic and broken system and then we just say it's stupid and gay and then do our own and then we go get a coffee and then forget and then they're like we'll just start our own and we'll have and we'll have brands give us millions of dollars to do it i would say it's one of the coolest podcast related things i have seen anyone do should we do a podcast awards but for straight people the ghanies the ghanies we're gonna it'll have to be in copenhagen but ghanies presented by ghani welcome to no i we laugh we could i don't want to i don't i don't think that but then it's going to be the same thing all the gay podcasters are going to be like let me guess joe button one again yeah it's going to be it's going to be the same thing it's going to be the same thing no i would give las colesores an award actually obviously to get them to attend and yeah you know of course yeah it's the same it's all all the you know it's like i want to meet joe budden i'm give Joe an award.

43:50I want to congratulate the cultureistas on their great award show. I'll invite them. I want to see what Alex Cooper's face looks like up close. She's getting an award. She's getting an award. That's a very specific desire

44:07Jason Stewart:and I like it. We're giving them all awards. Whoever I want to see. PJ vote, I'm giving you an award. I want to see who you bring as your date. You know what I mean? There's all these reasons to do this. Who's Maren going to bring? It's the same way that Greg, it's the same way she works at Cookbook. It's the same way that the Grammys invite, like, they, no one comes unless they're going to win or it's their first or second time. Or if they need a red carpet moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying there's always, no one's going to that because they respect the organization so much. They're going to it for one of three specific reasons.

44:43Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I think we could do the Ghanis. I just don't want to step on what's the other guy's name? Bowen and what's his name? Matt. I like Matt. I'm saying I don't want to step on their toes but it does feel like there's room for a straight version.

45:00Jason Stewart:Yeah, like people say, who's going to be the Joe Rogan of the left? Who's going to be the culturistas of the heterosexual center left? No, I mean, I would Bring up the code switchers Let's see you code switch right now I bet you I could code switch better than you motherfuckers. Okay. Up next, I'm going to present the award for best code switcher. Oddly enough, the code switching podcast snubbed again. ComeTown wins again. Oh, it's literal code switching. Okay. Oh, my bad. My bad. It's not the name. It's the act. I got it. Okay. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Yeah. It's kind of like when a straight guy plays a gay character and they're like, did we not have any gay actors who could do this?

45:45Jason Stewart:Does it have to be these two straight guys in Brokeback or does Will Smith have to do it? Paul Mezcal again? Paul Mezcal again. Can we get a real code switcher up here? Does it have to just be people who talk about the process? Awkwafina, get on up here. Congratulations. I didn't even think about Awk. Big Awk, you won it again. It's academics and Awkwafina. It's Ak and Awk in the final bracket. We got to make academics give the award for best code switching to aquafina best code switching presented by dj academics and and you know like when you're watching the grammys and like it shows the board and like the agency that does the counting but it's academics he's got the briefcase like it's from a gangster movie where they rob a bank and and and speaking of robbing the bank when they're on the railroad track and they pull the switch to move it from one and he he does the ceremonial switching of the code that's nice That's nice.