833. - Lee Tilghman

23:52and I get nothing but compliments and I wore it on my third date with my fiance and I think it's so cool to have something with a story I agree but I do think you're right there's a point where it's like alright well this thing is just chemicals or it's the real thing now do you keep it are you paying for high end storage at the furrier? no but I am bringing it in a couple weeks to a place in Manhattan on the upper east that repairs because my grandmother gave it to me after it had been stored for so long some of the like it was it was you know these these jackets were handmade to fit her body so some of the buttons are a little loose and some of the lining is breaky but it's like beautiful silk lining get a little tune up yeah i'm just getting i'm getting it tuned up what kind of what kind of shoes what kind of shoes is grandma wearing is she because i hope it's not hokas even though she's getting up there in age but i imagine she's wearing some tasteful footwear she's wearing she's 95 so she's wearing for comfort now up until maybe 10 years ago she was still wearing you know a little kitten heel but now that she's in she's 95 she's down in florida and she's um she's wearing the you know slip-ons and and sketchers that you don't have to bend over to put what having martha

25:02Jason Stewart:stewart sell those was the smartest thing that they ever did i think what a great investment because that suddenly made if it's okay for martha it's okay for me every every woman says that right yeah i'm slipping it on yeah 100 it really made me look inward when i when i realized that there was a product being marketed so you didn't have to bend over you know and i was like damn one day i'm gonna choose my footwear because it doesn't hurt my back well i think the problem is people are like 40 looking at that like oh that sounds good and that's where the issue that's that's the issue wait until you're 75 75 is the cutoff where you start buying yeah we need to be bending over we need to be bending over in our 30s i bend over all the time i i bend over every day i'm glad we got clean audio of that thank you chris without without fail i've bended over i was just at equinox bending over just a few hours ago there's equinox in brooklyn did you ever leave the sauna and do a workout or is it just in there there's a there's a brooklyn heights and equinox there's there is an equinox in brooklyn heights but it's it's not a great one i don't like it's like from the 70s it's like eight floors is that where you go are you doing hot pilates or something no guys i am a um i i go on runs and walks and i do pilates um at home on youtube and then there's a gym in my building and but before that i was just doing like i have weights here at the apartment i like doing it like at home i'm not i'm not and i also am a member of saa and so i sometimes go to the pilates there sorry i'm sorry to hear that i'm sorry to hear you're part of the psyop are you using the pool there i was i was until i was swimming one day by the way like i'm 35 now so i'm not here i i don't drink i i'm not here to party i'm here to like i'm using that pool for laps i'm using the pool for to clear the mind to empty the spirit i'm not here to like drink a martini in the pool and i'm swimming in the pool a couple months ago and there's a there it's like 9 a.m and there's like girls having iced coffee right next to me and they kept kind of migrating into my lap into my like swimming lap like my lane but there's no lanes to be fair no there's no lanes but like it is tuesday it's the morning and i'm thinking like you know who drinks coffee in a pool i know well i'm think i'm using this as a ymca they're using it as their club and that's the that's the mismatch and on while swimming i saw a big clunk of hair in my hand and i just not your own not your own no no no no probably not your own yeah i don't i i can't now that you um Now that you're engaged to a finance guy, are we going to get a reformer in the house?

27:31Jason Stewart:What do you think? How long? How long until that happens? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Potentially. Potentially. What is he doing? What is he doing for workouts? I know he's buff. He's doing berries. He's a berries guy. Hell, my man. Okay, so he's a psycho. I like this for you. A fellow gay. A fellow gay. Is he doing the 5.30 a.m. before he hits the office? No, he's doing the 7.20. Okay, 7.20 is actually reasonable and means you're less mentally ill than the 5.30. is serial killer. What are the chances of him listening to this podcast? He's going to listen, guys. Is he familiar with How Long Gone or he just is supportive?

28:07Oh, he is. Okay, great. He's a fan. What's his name? He saw you guys live once. Oh, wow. What's his name? His name? Yeah, his first name. His name is Jack. Jack sounds like a great guy. He's a great guy. We're trying to break into that market, so any tips that Jack has for us. I don't mean the stock market. I mean, guys like Jack and all of his coworkers and their Rivian trucks, we want them coming to our shows. You know what I mean? But if Jack does have a tip, you know, I'll take it. Yeah, I'll take a tip. I'll pump and I'll dump. Yeah, I'll do anything. I don't care. Have you learned? Now, being with a finance guy, every woman's dream in New York City, have you learned anything?

28:49Or do you look at it like it's sort of Chinese? I don't need to learn. I mean, one time he was like working from home and he was pulling up like while I was cooking, he was pulling up like his like projections. He does real estate finance and he was looking at invest. They're investing in a commercial property. And he was pulling up kind of like and I said, I hear him on calls where he's talking about like projections and numbers. And it's a little bit Chinese to me because that's not my my specialty. So it's a little bit like I'm not understanding and it just sounds really smart and impressive to me.

29:23That's right. and that's the trick that's why they have that's why they have to get civilians because they don't want to they don't want to define it they don't want to talk about this

29:30Jason Stewart:shit at home you know what i mean and then you could you could do that back to him when you're discussing ashwagandha and lion's mane and he's like babe what are you talking about yeah yeah every relationship he eats everything everything i if i give it to him he'll eat it and he'll be like what's this what did i just eat so how much are you cooking versus going out to eat um i'm I'm cooking. I love to cook, so I cook like five or six nights a week. Wow, five or six nights a week. Yeah, we only go out like one night a week. That's impressive. I don't know why you live in New York, but good for you.

30:03We do it because, A, I love to cook. I'm a foodie, as they say. I've heard that. I read your book. I know all about it. Okay, okay. So I like to cook. We're trying to save money. We eventually want to leave the city, and we want to buy a house. Are you going to go back to your motherland of Connecticut? it potentially potentially he's from new york so we might do like but it has to be outside of the city somewhere close so he can still commute sure we got to hit westchester the burbs oh my gosh yeah my sister just moved to the westchester you know i got the fairfield the family in fairfield county you know we're gonna pop out a baby or two so we got to have the family you know who did your sister what kind of man did your sister bag goldman okay so wow so okay but you thought but

30:47Jason Stewart:It took a while to get here, but you got here, didn't you? Because you were fucking around with losers. I mean, from what I witnessed. And I don't know. I don't think we ever crossed paths, but it seemed like maybe you were. Yeah. I mean, I feel like there's some people that we know. There were some names in the book that were changed where I was like, oh, I know that guy. And I know that guy. Oh, my God. Don't worry. We can bleep out whatever we need to bleep out. It's all good. Okay. Okay. But yeah, I mean, did you change – did your publisher, our dear friends at Simon & Schuster, did they suggest some changes or were you like, no, I want to let it spray?

31:28So yeah, you have to kind of – the book is read in the editing phase by a lawyer that Simon & Schuster gives you. And anything that – they read the book and they flag anything that could potentially result in a lawsuit. so they make sure when you're dealing with name changes the only names that are real are like my friend becca and like you know my sister's name but like most other names because these are people who are maybe not in my life anymore and i don't want to you know it's not the book this book's not about it's a really nice way to put it maybe not in my life anymore i got told to this fucking loser in 10 years he's not in my life anymore in my life anymore yes not part

32:08Jason Stewart:of my life so it's just cleaner that way across the board it's just cleaner it's just cleaner and And also, interestingly enough, about the name changing process, you have to pick a name that is if you're writing about someone named Riley, you can't say Ryan. I mean, that's kind of obvious. But you also have to make sure that you are not naming it after someone else who could be confused for that person, if that makes sense, because a lot of authors have gotten themselves into into to danger with that. So the name changing, that was stressful for me because I changed a lot of names a lot of times, but I'm happy where I ended up.

32:42I'm telling the lawyer to do that shit. Like, you want them changed? Change them yourself, chief. I don't got time for this. I ain't got time for all that.

32:48Jason Stewart:I was saying on the intro that you did my food podcast literally 10 years ago. I know. When you were doing a granola pop-up activation. The stew. Yeah, yeah, the stew. I did not listen to it. I read some of the transcript. I want to talk about the granola activation. What does that mean? exactly you know you this was the beginning of everything from if something was really popular online then you would do it in person a pop-up you know i think those days are gone that industry is is falling apart um there's still there's still pop-ups but it's normally like collabs between two restaurants like yeah like a pizza place from brook brooklyn is gonna go talk about food i'm talking about like hot chicks that are dating tennis players selling a million dollars worth the sweatshirts that that's no for sure that does or like when we were in copenhagen the scars pizza was doing slices and you know they'll bring a chef from new york to a coffee shop in la and we're gonna make you know squash blossom pizzas and matcha collabs lee i bet after reading the book i bet you're nasty with the granola i bet that recipe still works it does it does i made a smoothie bowl this morning actually oh hell no you're relapsing like that guys guys the Call your sponsor.

34:02Call your sponsor. The smoothie bowl is a neutral experience. It's a neutral food. It's how you show up to the smoothie bowl. It's how you show up to the granola. It's how you show up to.

34:13Jason Stewart:Well, I mean, Chris is laughing, but whenever he comes to LA, the first thing he does before even checking into the hotel is he goes to Backyard Bowls. Oh, my God. Backyard Bowls is my favorite restaurant. We were in Santa Barbara last week, and I woke up. Lee's still laughing at you. My wife was like, you're never going to believe this. And I was like, what? She's like, there's a backyard bowl 10 minutes away from the hotel. I went there every day. I went there every day. I left the grounds. It's the best restaurant I would love to franchise. Walk us through your order there, Chris. We have the smoothie bowl.

34:51Power bowl. Power bowl. No honey. Add chia seeds. What's in the power bowl? Now, what's that? What's that? Yeah, what's that face? Is it purple? Is it green? I don't fucking know. It's purple. It's purple. Classic. It's purple stuff. I know it's not good for me, and I don't care, because it really is the best. I just love it so much. I can't think of a food item I want more.

35:12Jason Stewart:Why are you talking about it like you ordered a Popeye's six-piece platter? I know it's not good for me eating chia seeds. Because it's a sugar bomb. It's a sugar bomb. Okay, well. Sugar bomb. It's a sugar bomb. It's a fucking sugar bomb. Well, I was watching. There's a band called Happy Mondays. there's a guy who plays the shaker in maracas and he's uh he's become like a beekeeper honey guy and i watched a video of him today saying he's removed all sweets from his diet he's like a super healthy guy but he has about a gallon of honey once a month and he just pours it on everything and he looks great he looks amazing very well he's done more drugs than just about anyone alive he's very healthy very trim mentally sound i see a lot of people eat a lot of honey and they seem to be totally fine what do you what's what's the latest a lot of runner a lot of runners too it's like energy yeah what are your thoughts on the on honeygate lee i i'm pro honeygate and also what a lot of uh runners here at the run club uh i'm i'm not in a run club anymore but i was congratulations thank you they're out in droves right now instead of goo now you can buy uh single packs like shots of maple syrup so guys we're talking you know the naturally sourced sugar um i even had a one guy in my run club say you know i don't do goo i do a mini sneakers you know and i'm and i was like a flex like he does like wow can i start sucking your dick right now that's the coolest thing wow bro not even a full size i mean no i i saw i saw an article saying that like pop tarts are the new like runner snack or whatever because you need sugar you're burning so many calories when you're going on these like 11 12 13 mile runs like you know to keep it up and hit and hit hit your goals hit your what do you think about those little waffles though yeah i saw a girl running this weekend in the city um eating a waffle while on a run and i was like oh i don't know let me say this though because all my all my runner heads have told me if you see somebody wearing a vest in the city they're overdoing it you don't need the fucking vest unless you're doing basically a marathon unless you got a bomb in there do not do it honey yeah you don't need the the eight martin gels and the fucking water bottles you don't need that they've got like you know a change of shirt and you know but like they look like the breast milk pumps on the front it's crazy they do the vests are hilarious like it's just also funny because when you realize there are people who are doing like multi-weekend triathlons and they're wearing a vest like in the woods and then like you're like doing a vest on the west side highway it's just like it's kind of funny when you kind of look at it and you're like oh that's not you don't need that pull up people pull up to the equinox and soho with the vest on like they and they i'm like did you run here and how far could that possibly be you know it's the same thing as where people used to wear like gun holsters as an accessory oftentimes if they're a photographer but sometimes if you're just a rapist don't talk about interpol don't talk about carlos d like that legend in the game.

38:13Shout out to Carlos D. Some of the best coke I've ever done. But I also don't want to confuse it with this new thing that a lot of girls are doing now is walking with a weighted vest because I saw a girl with a weighted vest on and I was like, why is she walking with a running vest? But now there's these weighted vests that you can buy and you can add like 5, 10, 15 little bars and so you're walking around with 15 pounds on you and it like doubles the cardiovascular benefits. Does it double it? Yeah, Jason and I both have these weighted vests. They were sent to us by some nice people and i did wear it a few times and i felt too insane oh yeah in public in public i mean i guess you could put it under a shirt but then you look even crazier you do look

38:52Jason Stewart:crazy i wear it i go for a little dog walk around or go for a hike it's it looks what do you guys think about the arm weights when you see girls with like the are you talking about the bala yeah what do you think about the bala bangles what do you guys think about that i mean it's it often pairs with like lip fillers and Botox in my, from what I see, it's like a little bit of a package deal. Um, but I do think that that is a genius business, genius business to basically, I mean, it's such a simple rebrand and it's so like DTC and like the colors are so annoying, but they nailed it. What do you think about them?

39:28Jason Stewart:No downside. I mean, my mom, she is, I, some might say like the OG, like she's very, very healthy and just like a normal, but healthy. And she goes on power walks every afternoon with these little two pound weights. And I used to think like, okay, you know, that's like what they did in the eighties. You know, they would walk with weights. It was a totally normal thing. And then I saw the Bala things coming out and I was like, okay, that looks silly. But then I saw a TikTok of a girl being like turning my unpacking and packing into a workout while doing chores with balas. And I was like, dude, like I could see myself like yeah i don't know i just kind of was like thinking aloud and yeah i mean if you just if you just wear the vest you got to optimize every second of the day if you know something's gonna happen you might get tired more or yeah your your bones might something's gonna happen negative or positive so i just want to be clear on your your honey stance you're very pro but you're not you're not making your own you've heard us talk about better help for a long ass time but I don't know that we've ever actually talked about how much people love the service when they actually use it.

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43:31No, I'm not making my own and I'm pro honey, pro maple syrup. I just don't like, I don't like honey. I don't like it. Really? I just, I don't, I never, I never use it. I never think to put it on anything. But you know, all honey tastes a little different. Try just the regular, Make sure you're not getting like I don't really like the wildflower lavender honey Or like the locals honey I like the honey that's in a bear That you can just get at any store And it just tastes like sweet syrup But where would I use this though? Because I don't put it in my coffee because I'm a man On yogurt, on Faye yogurt With a little berry and granola, a little honey

44:03Jason Stewart:Mix it in with your oatmeal in the morning Chris, instead of a brown sugar But I don't, I just don't I think what it is, is I'm not sweetening a lot of things in my life That's good I said, are you flexing right now? Are you like flexing? No, no, no. Because I want to like honey. It seems like something that's good for you that I should like. It's like a little treat. Well, that's why I brought up the Happy Mondays guy because he was saying it sounds like the last boss in the eating disorder is removing dessert from your life. Yeah. Something that Chris has been doing for the last couple of weeks.

44:36Jason Stewart:I'm clean. Maybe three weeks off dessert. but I'm looking at this old guy and he's saying like it's just not like a you know it's like oh I just go on a master cleanse and I'm all good or I just eat bananas every day and it's all good totally it's not going to last very long you have to start adding you know yeah is that sustainable learning to love learning to love honey no nothing nothing well I'm an all or nothing type cat so maybe it's sustainable but I did see yesterday I saw a guy a buff guy on Instagram posting about what he eats every day and it was a he would take a sweet potato a japanese sweet potato cut it up put in the microwave with water on it chop up a bunch of bananas put that on top of the sweet potatoes put cinnamon on top and eat it and the comments were like bro this is disgusting then one guy was like damn i know it i know a motherfucker who's been in jail when i see one this is a jail this is some jail shit it's both eating disorder and jail and workout guy why do that when you can also just have like a cookie or like a scoop of ice cream i i want to have that kind of control but if you put a scoop of ice cream in front of me it's going to be three different ones three different flavors i can't have i can't have one vanilla but is it but isn't the sentiment is that like if you just if you say yourself you know what chris like have a little pep talk with yourself and say i'm gonna what if i told myself that i can have ice cream like this every night if i wanted to without the all or nothing and just feel like if and once you tell yourself that believe that there will always be ice cream tomorrow you won't want to have five scoops you can have you know a scoop a day this is i know we just met and i love your logic but there is no way that's going to work for me and i but i think that is smart and it sounds like something that you you either learn somewhere or were taught by someone that seems like sound and advice i think i think some people have that scarcity mindset and i think that strategy does work for some people i think chris is a little i have an abundance mindset let's say this is further down the rabbit hole parentheses derogatory than than some other people where his body will reject that but i i feel the same way as you and you know just letting the body freely do what you want to do and sometimes you want no dessert sometimes you want a bowl of cereal sometimes you want fucking seized candy you know and you just kind of have to walk towards what you what you want and have a little bit i was uh just in la this week and i finally got to check out kismet rotisserie and they had a little brownie special of their s'mores blondie brownie and it's slapped slapped don't say this stuff to chris sorry don't worry i'm not going to any kismet restaurant so i'm free i'm free i don't eat i don't eat chicken i'm sure the rotisserie is good okay i just i remember going to kismet when it was the hottest restaurant in la and being like this place is more about the ceramics than it is about the food and that's that's what la is yeah in a lot of ways It's not a safe space for cisgendered men.

47:27Jason Stewart:That's for sure. Yeah, that's not a restaurant. Yeah, Lee, what do you think? We say this a lot, but do you think there are restaurants that are for women? They're not saying that, but like a Raff's, for example, in New York. That's the restaurant for women. Honey High is definitely a restaurant for women. Right, right. I mean, I was also in Honey High this week, too, and I saw a couple bros. Oh, yeah, King. King is for girls. You're right, you guys. You're definitely right. King, you leave. You leave. you spent$300, you're still hungry. That defines - Imagine you walk into King, Chris is alone, performatively reading a book at the bar at King.

48:02Jason Stewart:Have you heard of this author? He's going to get 75 phone numbers. Joan Didion? She's really popular right now. She's cool. Oh, this is like called Lolita or something. I don't know. Just another glass of Chablis. I think you're giving a lot of single guys some ideas on how to pick up girls going to those restaurants with a book. And then the girl will be holding her espresso martini and thinking he's a safe he's a good one he's a safe one he's wandered into my my zone and he's not disrupting the the feminine energy rucola is also a female uh a place that attracts a lot of females in rucola i haven't been there it's in borum hill oh yeah well i was i was i was reading the beginning chapters of your book and you were talking about how you would consume early internet like AOL Instant Messenger, oftentimes with a snack, a bowl of pretzels, just like regular like handover pretzels out of the bag or whatever.

49:03Jason Stewart:And a few times you referenced going to the computer with the bowl of snacks. I'm sure Chris was snacking when he was on AOL Instant Messenger when he was a fat person as well. I wasn't snacking. I was just jerking off. But yeah, I mean, there is. I was folding my dick into a pretzel, but have fun with your little snack. Okay. So my question is, Lee, nowadays, do you still have that kind of muscle memory reflex of I'm going to go on the internet, I'm going to go on the computer and write a sub stack or do a whatever? Do you have a modern, healthier version of the bowl of pretzels today? Yeah. So my kind of go-to snack, I don't, I actually, one thing that I do now is I don't go on the computer and I try not to multitask in general.

49:50Sometimes I have to, sometimes I have to work while eating, but I try to like have, I like at four, like get, go off the, from the computer for a little bit and go sit down and be a little, at least off the computer so that I could just focus on the food. But like one of my favorite things right now, screen-free dining, um, is, uh griere cheese with some mary's gone crackers and a little fruit like a little snack plate uh just yeah some some really good griere i'm kind of really into cheese right now but griere

50:22Jason Stewart:specifically it's just perfectly nutty i love a mary's gone cracker and i think griere is coming back is that the kind of cheese that they use on the copenhagen bread and butter roll or is that something different yeah or is that gouda oh i don't know i think they use it it's a it's a raw i know that it's a raw milk cheese so that's kind of how i found out about it oh hell no that's why that shit tastes so good oh hell yeah it's so good it's so good it's like it's really really good um i get it at the co-op it's delicious oh you're going to the co-op that's how brooklyn you are like that's really yeah what what i'm sorry but how many shifts become a member i had to do a shift yesterday okay what kind of freaks are coming in there i got suspended because like i got engaged i was away i was in europe and then like i launched my book and i got like suspended um so i had to like i'm in like kind of the red zone right now i'm in like co-op prison so i had to work a shift yesterday they let me shop afterwards but now i'm back in the back in the red and i have to work two more shifts in order to get green again can i ask you can i ask you which the person that is sort of uh keeping track of all of this let's say the the principal in this case can you describe them to us i just want to know just to further send yourself into the yeah yeah attention that you're in right now i want you to go into bright and you and you don't have to go to this this is fully elective right you could just fully elected you could just go to whole foods but i'm telling you though like like you could yeah you could go to a farmer's market or the farmer's market but guys like i'm telling you like the the the park slope food co-op like is like the closest thing to erwan that we have here and like it's not overpriced it's wholesale pricing hell no are there hotties there be honest no no i mean like maybe like okay two percent like what like 0.2 no one's going no one's going to erwan for the cauliflower or the sea moss gummies they're going there to look at each other in sweatpants and sports bras But everyone wants to buy carrots.

52:18Beyond the aesthetics. But it's just super, super curated and the best products. Like Graza without the markup. I'm getting Graza for$14 a bottle. I don't know what you guys get Graza for. Graza?

52:30Jason Stewart:You get that at fucking Walmart, bro. I ain't getting Graza anywhere. I thought this was some unique shit. You caught me with a squeeze bottle, I'd be embarrassed. My cheeks would be red like your zone. We got packs of 18 different types of rice. and then we also have the benefit is that the farmer's market comes to us so like the every day it's like the local like greens from upstate the tomatoes from okay okay like it's it's it's i understand i understand the offering is exceptional as far as quality goes but i don't want to yeah i don't want to rub elbows with these people so who is the principal who is the ceo of this who's the final stinky boss we have we have we have a we have we've had a uh a president for like 20 years and i believe that they send out emails and i believe that he's stepping down and there's a big election coming up i don't get involved but some of these people are going to like the committee meetings and the you can get so involved there's always protesters outside of the co-op it's hell i'm telling you it's hell there's still mask days what yeah there's mask days so this is just to be clear for our listeners this is all revolving around this is as brooklyn A store where you walk in and have the privilege of being able to buy produce.

53:41Jason Stewart:Full price. There's no discount involved. You have to pay money on top of volunteering your time to work there. Are there dues as a member? Yeah. Beyond just your labor? No. So you pay a$100 membership investment fee, and then you pay, I think, a$50 due. And then I think you get your investment fee back if you ever leave. um and so the there's no crazy markups but like i will say that like a thing of yogurt is 11 at christine's and it's eight dollars at the co-op so um and the dates are fresh because there's so many people shopping everything is really fresh and it's just like it does have that neighborhood feel where i feel like we've been um a lot of us are just getting you know instacart and it's bringing the the feeling back of neighborhood i gotta tell you i gotta tell you something i would pay whatever it costs to not go there like that's the reality yeah i am so glad i live in california double the price double the price on the fucking yogurt and i'll still i'll go to fucking amazon owned whole foods to not rub elbows with a 65 year old guy with ear hair policing tomatoes yes like i'm not i'm just not doing it that kohlrabi is uh accounted for sir get your hand but i do i do i'm sure the product is great the older the older members are the ones that I have the most issue with because they see me.

54:57I work checkout. That's the shift that I work. And so I'm rubbing elbows with these folks. And even just yesterday, I checked out three members. How long is the shift? How long is the shift? Two hours and 45 minutes.

55:11Jason Stewart:Light work. Light work. Shorter than the brutalist. I checked out a couple members all in a row who have been members since the 80s and 90s. And they heard the number. I was like, okay, that will be$50. and both of them said, you know, let me see what you checked out. I don't believe you. This used to be$20. This used to be$20. And I just was like, that's just how it is now. And they thought that I maybe was like making them pay more and that I like had double. Oh, this young bitch trying to get one over on us. And I'm like, guys, I'm sorry. Yeah, it's not 1990 anymore. Lee, can you pay with a credit card?

55:46No, you can't. You have to use a debit card or cash. Oh, wow. Okay.

55:51Jason Stewart:Are there any upsides to this at all? I'm still waiting to find one. Like the curation. Like the fact that I had to move my car halfway through my shift and I had to like move my car. While I was shopping, I had to move my car. And so I asked someone behind the desk, like, can you watch my car? Which Subaru do you have? I have a Lexus. It was my grandmother's. Damn. Oh, that's an old, like a, so it's like 90s? It's a 90s. Yeah. It's from actually 2003. It's like an old Lexus, like one of the first hybrids from my other grandmother. So I have a Mink Co and Alexis. I'm a lucky gal. Wow. Is Foxy Brown your grandma?

56:26Jason Stewart:This is.

56:29This sounds. Okay. This sounds. This is. But it sounds like you are a glutton for punishment a little bit. Obviously you like what you're getting. So it's worth it to you. But I also think you kind of like how annoying it all is. I think so too. I know. I know. I think it's not going to last forever and I'm enjoying it while I can. Because we've talked about this co-op on the podcast. I don't remember who we talked about it with, Jason. we talked another member a few yeah we've talked about it a few times with other other members but it'd be roman i don't know do you rub elbows with with local celebrity is ethan hawk in there looking at corn is kareem from subway takes buying yeah buying his david barn i've been a member there for three years and i have never seen a celebrity really i guess maggie gyllenhaal used to be a member but i think a lot of i know her crunchy ass is in there and a fucking yeah and a little slip dress getting some fucking cucumbers all right all right let's let's shift gears away

57:22Jason Stewart:from the co-op um how many vitamixers have you gone through in your life probably mix blenders vitamixes i'm probably on my seventh right now i i feel like they're kind of built to last but then you said hold my beer yeah well well i think like you know when i was doing the wellness influencing thing i had you know but i was working with vitamix so they would send me i think they would send me one a year and I was giving them to friends for wedding presents. I was like, and they were, it was nice. They were giving me, you know, the ones with the, now there's like a screen where you can like take it, you know, it's like, it's on your phone and it's, those ones are nice.

57:58Those are nice. I don't like that. I don't like that. I want old school. Not that I'm using one at all. The engines on those ones were so good. So I gave a lot of those away when I was done with my influencing, I was like, you know, proverbially, I just wanted to like throw everything away. And I was just like, you gave it away, put it on the street, and then I was kind of start fresh. So I bought this one, I think, a couple years ago. It's just kind of like the classic. That's all you need. Just the lowest model. Can I ask what the accessory packages are like on the Vitamix? I know you can't get leather interior and a Bose sound system, but aren't there additional things you can purchase?

58:37Yeah. You can purchase different sizes. If you don't have a really tall counter, You can purchase a short stubby blender bottle and then a short stubby tamper.

58:49Jason Stewart:Doesn't create a very good cyclone, though. Okay. You heard it from Jason. Thanks for podcasting with us today. Thanks. They also have a very cool tool that if you make thick smoothies like I do, that is kind of a spoon to go into the crevices of the Vitamix to pull out all the extra smoothies so that you don't miss a bit. You know what? I'm glad we have a smoothie expert on the podcast today because I have been traveling a lot. And why do you think in Europe or Scandinavia, the smoothies are more just like a glass of milk with flavoring? Why can't they make them thick? What is their aversion to thickness?

59:28I don't really know. I've always, some people like thinner smoothies. They think the thickness is weird. It's not a smoothie.

59:34Jason Stewart:It's a drink. I have a theory. I have a theory. What's yours? The reason, oftentimes, a reason why a smoothie is thick is because of the ice. And they don't like ice. In Europe, notoriously, they drop one, two cubes in there at the most. Yeah, that's got to be it. But also, in Scandinavia, for breakfast, they have cake and muesli. They're not really, but they're still much thinner than us. I had one of the worst smoothies of my life in Copenhagen. Like to the point where I was almost like, bro, are you kidding? to this like 18 year old hot blonde guy who was just like, what? Like it was, it was, it was so bad.

1:00:15Oh my God. It was so, I threw it away and I don't do that. I don't waste smoothie. I had one sip.

1:00:19Jason Stewart:Like if you search for smoothies on like Google maps while you're over there, it's like McDonald's pops up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know about what it's like now. I mean, I went to Copenhagen a couple of years ago, but I was going to Sweden a lot because I was dating somebody in Sweden. My man. Well, right. Well, yeah. and I was in my matcha phase and I would go to Stockholm and order a matcha and they only like one place in Stockholm did the matcha and they gave it to me and it was like yellow like it was milk with like a little like yellow light like light they gave me turmeric they put mustard powder in my milk what the fuck is this?

1:00:57Jason Stewart:well the matcha makes it taste really bad so we only put a very small matcha in there you won't like this matcha what did your ex think of the book did you share it with him did he find it on amazon.se or which ex no the one there's there's a there's a swedish ex that is prominent okay yeah um no like we don't talk anymore so i'm not sure but you think he's seen that shit come on now potentially potentially that motherfucker's seen it he read it twice he probably gave it to his kids he probably gave it to his kids remember this remember this chick that ruined my life i hate this bitch but it is a quick beach read i did enjoy it i actually really i really moved through it quickly it's she's she's a great writer finish on a plane to brussels um okay shifting gears a wee bit i saw last week you did a podcast with suzy weiss and she was i didn't know who she was until like a few months ago she did a like a viral video talking shit on posthumously about anthony bourdain do you do Do you remember that?

1:02:03I didn't see what she said about him, but what did she say?

1:02:07Jason Stewart:What did she say about Tony, Jason? She was sort of disparaging his legacy the same way that you would talk about Mac Miller, for example. Hold your ears, Leah. I know you're probably a fan, but I would say she seems to be overall kind of like an awful person to be around. How was that for you? It was not bad. No, she was a lovely, lovely gal. but we talked about you know there are many there are many aspects to people so she may have that aspect but we talked about cancellation and the internet and mob mentality and um we had a lovely conversation what is your what is your relationship to influencer snark on reddit oh god i don't look at it did you but did you at some point no i i never did i was told by another influencer that I was on there and she's like I look at mine my husband had to change the IP so that I stopped going on it I'm addicted to checking my own snark page and I was like I never want to be that dark it's kind that's like that feels like that feels like like very self-harmy um so I have never looked at it uh accidentally sometimes I if I'm googling like one time I had to send an article about myself and I accidentally googled myself and I saw something uh on reddit I just something about like someone said something like that my dog looks depressed um and and someone else said oh i saw her this morning walking on the brooklyn that's got a sting bridge pier she looked so angry while walking it's like listen if you see me walking in the morning at 7 a.m i am angry like i have a lot to do like i don't know am i supposed to be walking like yes you're supposed to you're supposed to walk and be happy because you don't have a real job and you get to make smoothies all day are you kidding me i guess so i guess so i i get i don't know i just was like uh yeah like i'm a person i don't know i'm not always happy are you but i think that i wonder since your heyday the the market is so congested that maybe it's it's like it's different now you know what i mean like there's there's more people to focus on yeah so i don't know how that sort of um divides up the hatred i guess is what i'm saying i think people are dedicated to who they found a way they 100 % do and like i love reddit i go on it a couple times a week and i noticed that reddit is trying to get me to follow snark pages of other influencers.

1:04:26So it's showing me like, oh, if you like, it was showing me a Taylor Swift hate page. And it was showing me a couple. I'm actually the ad. I'm the admin on that. If you could just, if you could just follow along, I don't really care for Taylor Swift either. So that was interesting. But I kind of looked at a couple of those posts. And it's like, if you like Taylor Swift, you are not welcome here. Like these are places where people go and you have to be a hater. Like, I just think it's, I think it's really sad. You guys, like I just,

1:04:56Jason Stewart:super healthy environment. I really don't, I don't believe that if you're happy and successful, like people who are happy and successful fulfilled, do not have time to be like full time admin mods. Like, it's mouth breather shit for sure. Like a hundred percent. Oh, a hundred percent. Like I saw a tick tock that was like, if you're a hater, like, let me see your side profile and, or like your picture. And like, like, I just don't believe that. like if you're happy and you're taking care of yourself that like and you're you have the balls to show yourself because a lot of them are like on bot pages it's like poly it's like polyamorous relationships they're all ugly that's the thing show me the show me the lie show me the lie show me the lie but that's that's very healthy and i feel like you have a pretty do you think do you think writing the book helped you have an even better relationship with your history yeah i think so i think it was like cathartic cathartic it was very cathartic because i felt like i was owning the narrative and sharing my my experience which is all i can share so it just felt very much like oh i'm gonna share this whole experience because i survived it and i've gotten a lot of messages from influencers who didn't survive it as to say or like they've just stopped sharing online because they just found the negativity to be too much too much no to go into hiding i don't pick on my mormon moms i just follow them because i like it but i know that it can be i know they can be hard out there um your in the book you mentioned your first instagram paid post was 75 i think for like a matcha powder or something like that yeah um do you remember what your last sponsored post was for and for how much money it was if you're willing to say i think my last sponsored post um like at least stories was for a healthy dog brand healthy food dog brand because i had just gotten my dog samson um one of those kind of drop to your door i don't know if i should name drop them but i think i got paid like either four thousand or six thousand for like two two or three stories okay that's pretty good and did sam's have to be in it or just yeah no i had to samson had to be in it and um so we had to split up the money a little bit but it's not too bad It all went back into his college fund.

1:07:05Samson gets free food. Samson got free food. And listen, when eventually I stopped doing those ads and I had to switch it back to kibble, he kind of looked at me like, Mom, are we on welfare now?

1:07:17Jason Stewart:Are we poor now? Mom, are we broke? Your dog starts laying out sluttier outfits for you. For your pup. He's going OnlyFans, Mom. The paw on OnlyFans. I would like some wet, raw food again, please. No more kibble. like mom i thought you said you would do anything for me in my upbringing you told me you loved me that is okay well i mean i what is your what is your relationship to the instagram platform now because you're on it obviously you're promoting a book i'm on it i'm not guys i'm not doing any sponsored stuff anymore so i'm making zero on that are you saying so you're saying no to spot like people are coming to you well well like not really because i like an article came out about me a couple years ago being like life after influencing in the new york times and so then i think a lot of people were like noted she's not doing sponsored posts but i think i'm like i gotta open it back up to uh to sponsor there's got to be some brands who are like oh this bitches is playing hard to get she i everyone's got a number you know what i mean 100 do you have a number i'm open i'm open to it my fiance's like you're spending way too much time on that i have to not be making money from it like see that guy's got that guy's smart see he's thinking about optimizing in the right way he's thinking about optimizing the right way he's like he's like if you're not gonna make money from this in like six months like you gotta just like move on and you're like you're spending too much time telling me this when you could be paying my rent and my life bill and buying me this bag that i have in my real real car so i get my hair done and my nails done that's weekly that's gonna be 300 and then well i know but i am i i like over the last six months i've been really working on book promo and also just finding the fun in creating content again.

1:08:58I mean, I think I just really burnt out on it. And like, after so many years of just being just this smoothie wellness girl, I just like totally burnt out and lost the inspiration. And I think sometimes when you attach dollar signs to something that you love, all of a sudden you can lose the spark and I'd lost the spark and I feel like I finally found the spark again. And I'm a little worried that if I start to introduce money and stuff, that kind of old same pattern will come back. No, I think that's smart. As soon as it becomes a job. If you don't need the money or you get the money from somewhere else, then why pollute it?

1:09:31Because there's always the risk of going back to where you were mentally.

1:09:34Jason Stewart:I think you'll have a healthy relationship with it now that you're married. That changes things a little bit. And now that you're a paid author, that will change things. So you can be more selective about what you want to do and only do something that you want to do. not because you need it to pay rent. Yeah. Of all the kind of viral diet fads and gimmick eating things that you've done over the years and have removed from your lifestyle, are there any ones that you kind of secretly miss a little bit? Like that one fucked up weird diet that actually worked really well? I mean... Don't say anorexia.

1:10:13Do not say anorexia.

1:10:14Jason Stewart:General anorexia. A real diet. No. A real diet. But I think that after kind of trying out all those crazy diets, I got to a place where I needed to kind of swing to the other end of the pendulum where I was like, you know what, like, I just need to let myself eat everything that I can. Like, not everything, but eat – like, just stop restricting so much. And I was kind of like, you know, any diet or any sort of, like, ethos is bad. And now I've gotten to a place where I've kind of like landed in the middle where I'm like, oh, no, like I do feel better when I eat like leafy greens every day or preach bitch.

1:10:54I love a leafy green. Now we're talking. Have you heard of the dinosaur like leafy green tactic where like if you're feeling like you have like it's sometimes it's just instead of like a salad. Like you just have like you go and do your greens and you just take a handful and you squish it up into a ball and you just down it. OK, so you're telling me I should go T-Rex mode when I'm feeling peckish. You go T-Rex. Go T-Rex on the greens. So you're saying I reach into my farmer's box and whatever greens are in there, I crumple them up like a piece of paper. I'm going to throw at my teacher and instead I put it in my mouth is what you're saying.

1:11:26And what does that do exactly? Primal. I think it's just kind of a reminder to your body. It's primal and it's a reminder to your body and to you that sometimes the best things for you don't feel good and you just have to kind of do it. I don't know.

1:11:42Jason Stewart:Is there a vinaigrette story at all? Or how does that work? You're saying raw dog without a bag, just greens. If you have a tuna fish sandwich for lunch and you're like, okay, it's go, go, go in your home. Why not just add a handful of greens into the mouth right after? Why not, Chris? Why not? Where else is it going to put the greens besides my mouth, you little freak? Damn. No, I mean, I love the burn of a ginger turmeric lemon shot. You know, I don't love the burn of the oil of oregano shot that you have when you're feeling under the weather. That one's my line. That's tough. That's a tough one.

1:12:24Jason Stewart:I think if it don't hurt, it ain't working. That mentality is real. I think I will say I used to be a real solid meal prepper. I would spend all day Sunday just prepping food. I would go to the Hollywood farmer's market and go home and cook for hours, like on my feet all day, like chef style. And I, but then I would have food for the whole week. And like, I just don't find that sustainable. Cause like now Sundays and spending with my fiance and you know, it just, there's nothing more depressing to me than meal prepping. It's really, it's, it's joyless life. And I know it works. I mean, I know it works, but I just, there's, there's things that I just cannot do because it's like, bro, we're going to die.

1:13:00Jason Stewart:If I have like two kids and I'm a nurse and my husband, works at the airport then yeah we're doing that but luckily all three of us i mean not chris because he's not cooking but we're able to go to the store and make whatever you know if thursday rolls around and i do not want to eat what i've made four days ago yeah i don't have to you know i just go to the market and buy the ingredients every day so it's always super fresh it's a lot more fresh that way it's a lot fresher okay we do this i asked this question to some of our guests on the show I think you might be a good candidate for it. Top five prescription drugs.

1:13:39Oh my God. Top five prescription drugs. Yeah. I'm not on any. Doesn't mean you don't know what the top five are. Okay. Okay. Okay. Number one, Lexapro. Okay. You turned around real quick. Turn the ship around real quick. I've had some good times with Lexapro. Lexapro. Okay.

1:14:00Jason Stewart:Can you describe Lexapro to our listeners? Pull me out of the weeds, so to speak. I think our listeners know exactly what Lexapro is. I would say about four out of five of those girls that you're talking about in Fort Green that are kind of cute are on that Lex. Going off the Lex. All right. Okay. Lexapro, number one. Lexapro. Lexapro's number one. What about the Z-Pak? No. It has to be recreational. Guys, I don't know. I don't know. I read the party chapter. You were doing some Xanax. You've never had Xanax before? No, but I did do Adderall a lot. So I did love it. I do think it's meth. Okay.

1:14:39Addies. I just saw the way that you said, I did love it. And your eyes exploded. Guys, this is how I knew that Adderall was, and I was on kind of the wrong path. Because everyone in college would take Adderall and go study. And I would go sit outside the library and smoke three packs of cigs and just be talking to anyone that passed. and I just loved it. I was like, I'm getting so deep with these students.

1:15:06Jason Stewart:Okay, so you take enough Adderall in college and you become the teacher? Yeah, exactly. Class is in session, boys. Gather round. Professor T, I had a question. Okay, so Lexapro, Adderall. Lexapro, Adderall. I think maybe, oh, I did take Xanax once in college, so maybe xanax because i was having once yeah i i didn't really like downers i'm more of like an upper kind of gal i get i get that from you i get that from you i see that yeah like i just want to be higher not lower uh yeah you know the real way to be and this is may sound crazy but kind of play both sides depending on how you're feeling is you is there one recipe i'm not i'm not gonna also you know certain doctors will prescribe you know let's say a ketamine or an mdma so those could be in play for somebody like you just to let you know so then the last two would be ketamine and mdma i did i did i did so much molly guys i was doing it five nights a week where were you going like electric room what era is this yes i was going to electric room but i was also i was mostly like i was a regular ad verboten and output oh god oh that's that's so you were a booth bitch yeah i was i was so into the deep house guys like okay that's beyond my no no but i mean i was going to like marquee and like lebon but that's like rave shit that's not like cool downtown nightclub no but i was definitely like verboten and an output kind of girl and now the clubs are opening up further and further and further into brooklyn and my opinion is that they need to go back to manhattan like what happened to like going to dinner and then going into the club because now you have to take like a 45 minute car ride into a good point these places with those service and people are disappearing um did you guys hear about like those those three gay men in a row last summer that just like disappeared from well they that was i did not i did not we found them we found them right i know i think that they're they died or maybe they found the bodies i thought they might have been sucking dick in the bushes you're saying actually some crime no no like there's been like disappearances oh i didn't know that okay yeah that's not good yeah like because there's no service they're going to be like deep deep these clubs are like deep deep deep bushwick they're going to a rave up in maine or new hampshire i'm in rural new hampshire there's a big party tonight don't check my location but i agree it used to be great to go go out in manhattan have a have a fun boozy dinner with your chicas maybe in right before dessert comes out we do a little mdma in the bathroom just to get the thing going okay stop and then you walk seven minutes and go hit the club obviously i'm walking in because i know the door person oh my god so good to see you i'll see you inside okay so molly five days a week that's i mean i feel like early early young 20s nyc girly that's kind of just what people did to get the get the job done you know i'm working in pr i'm working in fashion i'm working in blah blah blah and restaurants yeah i just need a little something to get me going yeah when's the last time you did molly the scene in the book where i went to like a wellness orgy accidentally so that was about 2016 or 2017 so almost 10 years ago was diplo there no what do you mean was he there it was his house the host it was sponsored by his run club okay so Do you ever see a situation where the DJ lineup is just so sick at something, then you're like, we'll do a little Molly responsibly for old time's sake?

1:18:47Jason Stewart:Or no? No, I'm six and a half years sober.

1:18:53That's important to me. Clear mind. I don't need it. Like I went to, I like, like, what show did I go to last year? I don't know. I went to a show last year. I went to go see Lane 8. Don't judge me. And I had a blast. I don't even know. I don't even know what that is. That sounds like a sticker on the back of a truck in Orange County. What do you guys think about Fred again? Not much. I think he's very talented. Skepta's song is very, very good. That's so good. Skepta's so good. That's a very, very good song. There's like a three-day rave happening in Central Park this fall that I keep getting ads for.

1:19:27so like my algorithm knows my past it's like three days Central Park camping out you can't yeah you can't you can't escape the algorithm alright thank you Lee for joining us it's a pleasure thank you guys the book is is called

1:19:41Jason Stewart:if you don't like this I will die and I think you might be the first person to put your Instagram verification check mark or your Twitter check mark nice on the cover of the book that's a nice touch nice but go get the book if you especially if you live through this era I think it's it's a fun read. Thanks, guys. Thank you. We'll see you soon. See you soon. Alright, later.

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