In short
The episode opens with a brief chronic migraine/Botox ad: chronic migraine is 15+ headache days/month (each 4+ hours). Botox (onabotulinum toxin A) is described as a top branded preventive for adults with chronic migraine, not for 14 or fewer days. The ad warns about spread of effects hours to weeks later and urges urgent help for trouble swallowing/speaking/breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness; it also lists side effects (allergic reactions, neck/injection site pain, fatigue, headache) and key contraindications (skin infection; disclose ALS, myasthenia gravis, Lambert-Eaton, and related meds).
After the ad, the hosts discuss New York/industry gossip (Chloe Mall at Vogue; pay transparency debates; Tim Dillon’s high-fee Abu Dhabi/Saudi optics), then pivot to Bar Italia.
Guests
Nina and Jasmine from Bar Italia (band). They talk about their new record Some Like It Hot (out Oct 17 on Matador Records), festival life, touring’s impact on songwriting, and recording methods (building parts on computers in Pro Tools/Logic/Ableton/“Produce”).
Notable examples
their song “Punked” played at the host’s wedding; seeing Iggy Pop and Paul McCartney at festivals; a story about Iggy Pop backing them after a bad early review; and their “resolved” album sound.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODiscussing Chloe Mall's Appointment
0:00 to 0:54
The hosts talk about Chloe Mall's new role at Vogue and the industry reactions.
“15 or more headache days a month, each lasting four hours or more, can make me feel like a spectator in my own life.”
Discussing Chloe Mall's Appointment
1:00 to 1:18
The hosts talk about Chloe Mall's new role at Vogue and the industry reactions.
Discussing Chloe Mall's Appointment
2:45 to 4:38
The hosts talk about Chloe Mall's new role at Vogue and the industry reactions.
“But you know, I'm more happy that Lauren Sherman did break the news.”
Industry Salaries and Expectations
4:38 to 6:41
The conversation shifts to salary expectations in the fashion industry and transparency in job offers.
“Every, every time I do anything, I want more, whether it's money, whether it's drugs, whether it's, you know, whatever it is, I want more, but you have to understand that if there's my day, that job didn't pay at all.”
Tim Dillon's Controversial Stand-Up Pay
6:41 to 7:50
The hosts discuss comedian Tim Dillon's high pay for a show in Abu Dhabi and the ethics around it.
Cultural Reflections on Payment and Values
7:50 to 11:00
A deeper discussion on the implications of accepting payment from controversial places.
“approach this from i mean the interesting angle is that he's like i care about myself more than I care about others.”
Cultural Reflections on Payment and Values
11:26 to 11:37
A deeper discussion on the implications of accepting payment from controversial places.
“but I don't know that we've ever actually talked about how much people love the service when they actually use it.”
Cultural Reflections on Payment and Values
12:24 to 13:23
A deeper discussion on the implications of accepting payment from controversial places.
“You sent a message, and it turned out the seller was super chatty, kind of funny, and an avid cyclist.”
Bar Italia's Experience in New York
13:23 to 14:00
Bar Italia shares their thoughts on New York and their music journey.
“I don't even know where my coffee comes from anymore.”
Discussion on New York and Podcasting
14:30 to 16:36
The guests share their love for New York and discuss their podcasting experiences.
“Do you guys each own your own headphones, just for my understanding?”
Show all 33 chapters
Howard Stern's Evolution
16:36 to 17:28
A humorous take on Howard Stern's career and his shift from shock jock to a more subdued persona.
“He has rejiggered his personality, which makes him a little more warm and fuzzy, which is not what people want from him.”
Experiences in London and Bar Italia
17:28 to 19:52
A conversation about visiting London, Bar Italia's coffee, and cultural observations.
“You mean you go into the bathroom and nothing works or you mean you order stuff off the menu and they're like, we don't have that?”
Food and Family in Rome
19:52 to 24:21
Discussion about food experiences in Italy, family connections, and cultural nuances.
“I think that's the first time those words have ever been said together.”
Grandma's Legacy and Salsa Dancing
24:21 to 28:06
A lighthearted discussion about the guest's grandmother, her history in radio, and salsa dancing.
“My repayment for that was just being mozzarella and wine.”
Salsa Dancing and Personal Stories
28:06 to 29:13
Explore the humorous take on salsa dancing and personal anecdotes from family life.
Pilates Insights and Experiences
29:13 to 30:29
A light-hearted discussion about teaching Pilates and personal experiences in fitness classes.
“I need a guy who's got enough balls to show up alone to a Pilates class.”
Wedding Memories and Music
30:29 to 32:29
Reflect on memorable moments from a wedding and the significance of music in personal events.
“I didn't play music because I did the traditional Pilates.”
Concerts and Live Performances
32:29 to 34:29
Discuss the excitement and experiences of attending concerts and seeing iconic performers live.
“Well, so we have a cursed, I have a cursed Bar Italia stories.”
Festival Culture and Bathroom Etiquette
34:29 to 36:14
A humorous exploration of festival culture and the unconventional practices that arise.
“If you're an influencer kind of person, you can just go.”
Festival Culture and Bathroom Etiquette
37:11 to 37:34
A humorous exploration of festival culture and the unconventional practices that arise.
“or building with American Express Business Platinum.”
Festival Culture and Bathroom Etiquette
37:39 to 38:11
A humorous exploration of festival culture and the unconventional practices that arise.
“How about a creamy mocha frappuccino drink?”
Skincare and Beauty Trends
38:11 to 42:00
A quirky discussion on unconventional beauty practices and skincare routines.
“Well, that's for sure where you get enough festivals.”
Karaoke and Musical Nostalgia
42:00 to 45:00
The hosts discuss their karaoke choices and reminisce about iconic music moments.
“Red Hot Chili Peppers and Jeff Buckley is quite wise.”
Album Production Insights
45:00 to 48:20
The conversation shifts to the production quality and artistic evolution in their new album.
Songwriting Dynamics and Live Feedback
48:20 to 51:40
The band discusses their approach to songwriting and how live performances influence their music.
“Like we haven't really played any of the songs that we had written in January, February or during the festival season.”
Recording Techniques and Equipment
51:40 to 55:20
A detailed discussion on the recording techniques and software used in their music production.
“That's one of the better things to go to college for.”
Upcoming Events and Art Exhibition
55:20 to 56:00
The hosts wrap up by discussing their current press tour and upcoming art exhibition.
“I'm just saying, like, don't think of us in splitter vans in car parks.”
Press Tour and Art Exhibition
56:00 to 1:00:03
Discussion about a press tour and an art exhibition featuring drawings by the band.
“Are you here just on a press tour or are you doing shows as well?”
Life in New York and Relationships
1:00:03 to 1:02:35
Exploration of the group's life in New York, relationships, and late-night antics.
“I only met her yesterday, but she's very stylish.”
Musical Aspirations and Beginnings
1:02:35 to 1:06:52
Conversations about their musical journey, aspirations, and how they found their calling.
“You could say bad stuff about Virgos too.”
Health, Supplements, and Humor
1:06:52 to 1:09:39
A humorous take on health supplements and their effects, with laughter and banter.
Fun Hotel Experience with Nina
1:10:05 to 1:11:15
Hear a humorous story about a hotel stay in Spain and a funny mishap with medicine.
“It's called Some Like It Hot and it comes out October 17th.”
Fun Hotel Experience with Nina
1:11:41 to 1:12:12
Hear a humorous story about a hotel stay in Spain and a funny mishap with medicine.
“Close your eyes, exhale, feel your body relax, and let go of whatever you're carrying today.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Chronic migraine. 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting four hours or more, can make me feel like a spectator in my own life. Botox, onabotulinum toxin A, prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine. It's not for those with 14 or fewer headache days a month. It's the number one prescribed branded chronic migraine preventive treatment. Prescription Botox is injected by your doctor. Effects of Botox may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. Allerge your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life-threatening condition.
0:30Patients with these conditions before injection are at highest risk. Side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. Allergic reactions can include rash, welts, asthma symptoms, and dizziness. Don't receive Botox if there's a skin infection. Tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, including ALS Lou Gehrig's disease, myasthenia gravis or Lambert-Eaton syndrome, and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. Why wait? Ask your doctor, visit BotoxChronicMigraine.com, or call 1-800-44-BOTOX to learn more.
1:18how long gone oh it's a beautiful tuesday here in money-making manhattan uh the good people of this borough are back to work. The streets are abuzz. The energy is palpable. There's probably still some stragglers on their way back from Croatia or East Hampton or wherever they choose to summer.
1:38Jason Stewart:No, no, it's just those two places. But the real ones are back in front of the machine, locked into the laptop. They got their podcast mics up and sorted. I popped a fresh candle. There's a lot of scoops to scoops. A fresh candle. Fresh candle at the new house. It's a big day for me personally as well. Which candle does Chris Black use to sage his new abode? I like to lay a base of Diptyque Patchouli, one of my favorite, most underrated fragrances. So I bought a couple of those on my favorite website, LuckyScent.com, and had them sent right over. That is pause. I don't even know why, but it is.
2:18I completely agree. I couldn't agree more.
2:22Jason Stewart:So everyone is back at the machine. Chloe Mall. Molly? Mall? Mall. Chloe Mall. Is it Mal? Is it like Frederick Mall or is it Mal? Mally? Do you know? I've never said it out loud. This is the first day where many people are saying that name out loud. Shout out to Chloe if you're a listener. She's been in the game. Chloe's worked at Vogue for 15 years. She definitely doesn't listen to this podcast. That's not a definite. I'm happy somebody got the job. after all. But you know, I'm more happy that Lauren Sherman did break the news. Lauren Sherman over at the Puck Corporation led the streets. She fed the streets.
2:59The scoop is scooping. The scoop was scooping. I honestly I was surprised how many people went with it before there was confirmation. So that's a testament to Lauren.
3:11Jason Stewart:Yeah, yeah. Shout out to Puck. Shout out to Lauren. Dear friend of the show. I was supposed to go hang out with her this weekend at her house before Oasis played, but off to Croatia, I go, sorry, besitos, though, but yeah, I mean, it's cool. I think we should get Chloe on the pod. If you don't have a plug, I can go around you, maybe even over you. I know that she oversaw projects like Dogg. I think it's just Dogg. It's a cover contest for Dogg. Is it just Dogg? I mean, Dogg. It's not called Vogue magazine. Sure. Sure. But Doge is tough because it enters the Doge category. It enters the big balls.
3:52That's true. It's a dangerous, it's a dangerous, but the spelling is nice.
3:55Jason Stewart:The spelling, it's Vogue with a D. She also hired Jack Schlossberg and she broke WNBA News. And I also heard that she has Disney villain Legos collection. So, you know, Anna's Vogue pushes on. Chic with a capital C. Well, I mean, the reality is that until Anna Wintour dies, no one will actually have a job there of that stature. So it's merely, I mean. And I saw a good joke. Shout out to Chloe. The position does pay$55 ,000 per year annual salary. That was a pretty good joke. It got me. If I have to hear about that one more fucking time, I'm going to lose my. If you want a job and it doesn't pay what you want it to, just don't get the job.
4:38That's it. Then don't apply for the job.
4:40Jason Stewart:No, no, no. But here's my counter argument. but I want more. Come on. Of course. I always want more. Every, every time I do anything, I want more, whether it's money, whether it's drugs, whether it's, you know, whatever it is, I want more, but you have to understand that if there's my day, that job didn't pay at all. If there's an independent business that is giving, saying upfront to you, we have$55 ,000 here are the responsibilities. What's the, what, what's the issue there? What's the problem?
5:12Like as a human being with a brain, to decide if you want to work for the Cutting Room Floor Podcast.
5:18Jason Stewart:I think it was a nice thing of the Cutting Room Floor Podcast to do. Maybe the first interesting thing I've heard from the Cutting Room camp. Who knows? I wish many more podcast creators were upfront and transparent about, hey, we're an independent small business. Here's a job. Here's how much it pays. Not everyone can work with that. Some people can. Posting, well, she gets this much for a post and blah, blah. Who cares? that's her money she gets to do what she wants with it it's her company so if you don't want to do the job then don't do it you don't need i mean do you really want to be in podcasting that badly i don't but it's like fashion overall though you know no sure of course and i i just it's honestly crazy to me the that how big that got because i just don't think it's like once again we're taking away people's agency and acting like there's no free will in the world and that you have to do a job that you don't want for the money you don't want which which just for my understanding is not necessarily the case i think um lastly chloe's idea to make the magazine less frequent with the you know maybe six up six issues a year instead of 12 and then or maybe quarterly and have them be higher quality book like pieces like these kind of smaller expensive high fashion magazines that you get as collectible items with thicker you know paper stock and all that stuff i think that's a step in the in the right direction for the future of print right yeah yeah yeah i mean i i mean how many people do you see reading a physical copy of vogue magazine in the real world you know i see people reading any magazines in the real world because they if i mean at best they get them sent to their house you know what i mean or they buy them at the maybe the new yorker that's about all i see you know yeah you see the new yorker i live in the valley on the airplane yeah do you really do you really live in the valley technically glendale is considered the valley but the valley i didn't know that actually valley it's a gray area you know because there's the sure there's the west valley there's the north and then i'm on the east side so you know it's all it's all the valley but you know they would make fun of me for where i live if you grew up in hollywood and now it's kind of the other way around it's like oh you live in hollywood i'm so sorry um okay i guess do we have time to talk about tim dylan really quick yeah i mean comedian uh tim if you don't know he he admits he's doing a stand-up show in abu dhabi and he's getting another person transparent about fees and and salaries he's getting paid 375 000 to do a show and there's you know there's a lot of interesting angles to approach this from i mean the interesting angle is that he's like i care about myself more than I care about others.
7:59And I think that if more people, I guess when distilled down, yeah. And if more people admitted that, I think we would live in a better world. I really do. I think it's like, how can, what can you say? Of course, Saudi Arabia is a place that is full of awful crimes and people are treated like shit and it's, it's bad. No one, no one can argue that. Tim definitely isn't arguing that, but Tim's saying they're offering me$375 ,000 to do an hour of standup comedy. I would be stupid not to take the money.
8:26Jason Stewart:He was saying, you know, if you pay me enough money, eventually I will be able to ignore the atrocities. Anything. And then they used with his agent and lawyer and management team, they found out what that dollar amount was for doing a show. I mean, what I was thinking, it was like, so if this, it sets a little bit of a precedence where, you know, it was like the Dubai Golf League, you know, and then the theme of Happy Gilmore 2 was about the evil predatory golf company with their big checks taking all the players and ruining the golf world. This is going to happen now with entertainment. I was thinking, I feel like in the near future or even now, people are more likely to get a check from Abu Dhabi or Saudi Arabia or places where they cut your head off and throw you off a building if you're gay.
9:24Jason Stewart:They would rather get a check from them than from Tesla just because of the optics. Yeah, 100%. I mean, aligning yourself with Elon Musk in any way in America is worse than aligning yourself with war criminals from a foreign land. Yeah. That's 100 % true. And that is bad. That is bad. And that's just, you know, it's all PR. It's all optics. I just found it. And it's all, you know, facts don't matter. I found it to be very, I thought it was, it was interesting. I mean, I think that few people will side with him on it, but he does have an audience. Like he does. He's not. I mean, Cho said this earlier, but he's got nothing to lose.
10:03Like he has no studio. He has no like the advertisers know what they're getting into. It's all him. It doesn't matter. You can say whatever he wants.
10:10Jason Stewart:What are you going to say about me that I haven't already said about myself? I'm a fat piece of shit. He can say whatever he wants. And that is freeing because most people in his position, even on a larger scale, can't do that. Okay. Well, that being said, I don't know what our dollar amount is to do a live podcast event. Much less than$3.75. I'll tell you that. I'll tell you that. I mean, it depends on what the flights look like. But, you know, Middle East, get in touch. Pull up booking. Yeah, let's see what the flights are looking like. Let's see what we got. Let's see what the housing. I want one of them.
10:45Jason Stewart:Emirates. boxes where I got purple curtains in the home burgundy curtains we need our emirates we need separate pods we're not sharing one of those double beds I don't care how big it is fellas is it gay to sleep together on the airplane okay we have a guest today couple members of Bar Italia a band that both Chris and I enjoy a lot I think they're great their new record we got it a few weeks ago some like it hot it's going to be a winner Some like it hot. Comes out October 17th. Okay. Soon on our dear friends at Matador Records. Okay. Excited to speak with them. Let's give them a Zoom. You've heard us talk about BetterHelp for a long-ass time, but I don't know that we've ever actually talked about how much people love the service when they actually use it.
11:33You can go check it out for yourself. You don't have to believe me and Bozo here. You can go to betterhelp.com slash reviews, and you can read all the amazing reviews in real time. They're updated every day with hundreds of people saying how much they love BetterHelp and how helpful it's been to them.
11:49Jason Stewart:They're going to be great reviews. And you could see like, oh, this person recommended this therapist for this one specific thing. And that's what I'm interested in as well. Let the reviews help you find who you need to look for. And with over 6 million people, having already used the BetterHelp app globally, this consistent feedback from real users makes it easy to see why so many people continue to use BetterHelp. See the reviews, see what stands out, and see if BetterHelp is right for you. Visit BetterHelp.com slash how long. That's BetterHelp.com slash how long. This episode is brought to you by Facebook.
12:23So you were scrolling on Marketplace, and there it was, the bike you'd been searching for. You sent a message, and it turned out the seller was super chatty, kind of funny, and an avid cyclist. The next thing you know, you're in a cycling crew. Well, a community cycling group. The thing about Facebook, you might find more than what you're looking for. From a browse to a bike ride, this summer, find more on Facebook. Hey Chicago, class it up with Crocs. You know back to school is coming in fast. So why wait to find your new fave footwear? Step into a local Crocs store and step into your new look.
13:04Try it, style it, make it yours. Because the right pair doesn't just show up. It shows off. First day fits, handled. Walk out ready for whatever's next. Visit your nearest Croc store today.
13:22Where's your cold brew from, if you don't mind me asking? It was purchased for me. Oh, must be nice, Hollywood ass. Damn, okay. I'm so disassociated from my world. I don't even know where my coffee comes from anymore. You guys don't have good coffee where you live, so it's nice to come to New York and embrace it. It's all bad though, isn't it, really? just in life in general no coffee it's a necessary evil i think about it that way i think if you if you care about coffee you've done something wrong in your life i've definitely done that's 100 true and that's why i care i've done i mean i don't care what about tea though my friend what about tea poor tea only what kind whoa whoa whoa tea sam who's not here showed it to me and it's incredible it makes you feel high are you talking about kratom do i have mic no i don't need you jealous my mic no no you should be he sounds amazing he looks so professional they could probably get you one of those on amazon by the end of the day but that it's fine i'll just project i'll just project
14:22Jason Stewart:everyone sounds good i think we're lucky here we're lucky here cracking okay nina and uh jasmine from Bar Italia. What's up? What's good? What's really good. How's New York? Fucking love it. What is it that you like so much? Everything but the people. Do you guys each own your own headphones, just for my understanding? No. I think I'm the only one who does own headphones. You don't own headphones. You're not kidding. What do you mean? I mean, do you listen to music and headphones that you own? Oh, yeah, yeah, of course. I didn't know. I didn't know if you were a speaker person no i just listen it out of the phone yeah well there's like people there's a movement of like no more bluetooth it's all about the wired headphones i was wondering if you took it a step further and said headphones like what what kind of cretin would listen to music with that yeah actually we have no phones either so sure sure yeah i only yeah i only listen to music on vinyl and i kind of i just yell out to people when i need to talk to them i don't call them on the phone yeah exactly just hope for the best yeah you hope for the best whoever responds whoever responds have you guys done a lot of podcasting before i don't know if i i've seen it i know you played tim heidecker's show a couple years ago yeah i did a football podcast once oh really you've done a few actually you did uh no that was radio i was radio what's the difference yeah exactly that's what we like to say over here to make ourselves feel better podcasts make money radio is cool podcasts make money those are the two those are the two well at least the the radio where you live the radio where we live we don't have any you know yeah we're jealous of your rich radio community that you don't have in london nick grimshaw here you know we don't have anything like that you got what's that how it's done right yeah but howard stern doesn't really play music you know what i mean it's more like he's just a bitch isn't he he's a bitch he actually just quit because he didn't get what he wanted.
16:17He's literally a bitch.
16:18Jason Stewart:He's a billionaire bitch, but he used to he was famous. Garbage men would call in and then he would throw baloney at girls' asses. He made hundreds of millions of dollars. Now, he's an old man. It's time for him to be put out to pasture. Let's say this. He has rejiggered his personality, which makes him a little more warm and fuzzy, which is not what people want from him. they want bologna on the ass and he's giving like Obama rules it's gone a bit vanilla the Sibian has gone is collecting dust yeah it used to be like porn stars you've seen clips it was insane actually he would have like Angelina Jolie on and be like yeah you like dildos I mean come on show me your tits that's the famous interview that got John Mayer in all that trouble when he called Jessica Simpson sexual napalm because she was just it was just she's too hot and he said a few other things like that and that unfortunately stuck with him for over a decade now that would so be careful is what i'm saying if you have any sexual napalms in your life keep them to yourself yeah yeah yeah for sure i do yes it sounds like a bad thing but not a good thing yeah we were we were just in london uh a few weeks ago watching oasis down at wembley and we were staying right around the corner from the bar bar italia oh and that's my only real connection that i have with you guys what was the name of the hotel chris uh kettner's my my connection to bar italia is some of the worst coffee i've ever had in my life yeah facts awful it's really i mean it great sign yeah is there something i'm missing i guess is what i'm asking it's an amazing i think i think it's uh yeah it's terrible i remember going in there one of the first time like trying to speak italian because I'm Italian and no one knew they were like they don't speak Italian at Bar Italia yeah so that tells you everything you need to know that's kind of the allure it's been explained to me that some British guys just opened it because they thought it was a cool name there's no attachment to the country I'm not sure actually I thought it was because of mod culture oh yeah that makes sense because of the obsession with Vespas and shit like that yeah yeah yeah it seems like a good place to smoke outside of when your scooter is parked on the street right in front i would do that and then there's like ronnie scott's like across the road which is like this legendary jazz club and like it's it was basically the only place open kind of late um after that so people would just go and get really shit paninis from there at like 2am oh it's just a bit of a museum though it's like none of the shit actually functions the way you'd expect.
19:06You mean you go into the bathroom and nothing works or you mean you order stuff off the menu and they're like, we don't have that? No, no. I went in there and tried to order a fucking chocolate cake and the woman was like, don't get it. It's disgusting. That makes me like this a lot more than I did before though. To be fair, ordering chocolate cake there is weird. I want to be very clear. She's saying that because the chocolate cake that they have in stock has been sitting there for over a year. Yeah, because no one goes to the Italian.
19:38Jason Stewart:We're a drug front, so don't order any of the food here. We don't have any food here. Honestly, the panini with the schnitzel thing inside kind of slaps. It's quite good, especially if you're late night. Okay, the schnitzel panini slaps. Yeah. I'll make a note of that right now. I think that's the first time those words have ever been said together. Schnitzel panini slaps. In an Italian accent. Come on. Well, I trust you because of your, obviously, your developed Italian palate. But now I'm starting to wonder what your home cooking tastes like. Yeah, I'm actually going to Italy this weekend. Are you?
20:15Jason Stewart:Yeah. Where about? First, I go to Milano. Yeah. Modena. Sucks. Oh, that's good. Sucks. Milan sucks. Milan's the only good city in Italy. I don't know what you're talking about. I kind of agree. Yeah, I kind of agree too. Honestly, I kind of agree too, but I'm from Rome, so I need to. I need to you gotta stick up for the hometown yeah exactly you gotta stick up well can I quick question then about Rome why does Harry Styles keep going there is there something we don't know is there is the pussy that good it is it is it is he's dating Zoe Kravitz so clearly not or maybe he keeps going back because he gets told the pussy's really good and he keeps not finding it so he's like oh yeah let's try again I heard I heard he was staying at a lesbian city in Berlin.
21:03Yeah, I think that's true. Do you remember me? Do you remember my friend was saying he was saying a lesbian community in Berlin. He's like,
21:10Jason Stewart:he's put on so many dresses and he's like, I don't need to sneak his way. A lesbian community. This is the only place where people leave him alone. The only people in the world who aren't trying to suck his dick in the street. He has a lesbian haircut so he fits in just fine over there. I love Harold but I'm just saying I see Harry and I always see these paparazzi pictures of him in Rome and I'm like, Rome is a beautiful crumbling city but it doesn't seem like it's their hub but it's just full of american tourists ruining the place who know and you know it doesn't seem like he's able to escape in rome well there's an underbelly to rome which i wasn't aware of but i'm finding it slowly that club we went to is amazing yeah and it's like there's like some really incredible um film directors and like like all the money skin kind of crew has like lips there and they're like actually quite cool people the italian film business the italian film business is like based in rome yeah yeah yeah so maybe that's maybe he's trying to get an acting role in like a sorrentino film yeah maybe he's in the sorrentino film yeah he's he's trying to get some work over there he's he's running low on cash needs to get some gigs also i kind of see like in sepia like i can imagine him wanting to like live a sort of sepia 50s dream, you know?
22:26Yeah, I don't disagree with that. But what is it about how often do you go back to Rome? Do you miss it? Could you never go there again? I go there all the time. So you like it? I didn't like it, but I love my grandma. So I just go back.
22:42Jason Stewart:My grandma fucking slaps. She's graying a panini. I was about to say, what's better? She's the best pussy in town.
22:54yeah you should tell harry style she's single she's 87 she was almost died last week and now she's back okay and uh and she actually lost some weight she's back she she started her raya
23:08Jason Stewart:the raya profile is back on she almost died but i'm back she's lost weight and she's taller than me like she looks like a model honestly wow i love i love getting sick waking up in the hospital but You lost 10 pounds. You know, there's some upsides to everything. Yeah, yeah. I was telling her that as a, like, just to get her back home happy, and she was really happy about it. What is her, what did she do for a living before she was 87? She's still working. She's incredible. She was, actually, it's quite funny. She was the director of BBC Three, not BBC Three, Radio Three in Italy. Whoa. So she's like an OG radio person.
23:46Fellow podcaster. She was on the air. She was an original podcast.
23:50Jason Stewart:yeah she yeah it's your your grandma joe rogan all the legends i'm telling you harry star shoot me her like she's kind of the plug okay so she was like she was like a radio host in what like the 70s 80s or 60s yeah 70s 70s 70s 60s 70s 80s 90s groovy wow grandma knew where the good italian coke was i bet yeah she cooks quite well jesmy has met her does she have like a sick ass vinyl collection collection no at all not at all okay no you you just you just met her what was your take um she didn't speak a word of english i was yeah so i would i had come down to go to grandma's in short shorts and nina told me to go back upstairs and change in like 39 degrees and wearing a shirt and jeans.
24:45Sorry. My repayment for that was just being mozzarella and wine. I was giggling to myself.
Read the full transcript
24:52Jason Stewart:You didn't feel comfortable in the short shorts around Nona? Is that what it was? Like a disrespectful thing? I wasn't allowed. I wasn't allowed. No, he wasn't allowed. Oh, you weren't allowed. I was trying to fucking show what I got and pull. Have a little ball dripping down. No, Grandma loved Jasmine, me but he had to wear long trousers yes she's a lovely lovely woman she said no gay shit in my house baby put some pants on exactly you know where you are
25:21Jason Stewart:castro okay um carbonara or amitriciana which one is the best oh come on let's talk about something else let's talk about london or something okay yorkshire pudding or blood sausage what's best i'm just like feeling sorry for the interview though it's just getting very italian focused well it's it's london's a little more boring we kind of understand that you guys contain you guys contain multitudes there's so much a rich history london's just like white guys with guitars is all i know no that's not true what else is there put me on they have white guys with usb sticks too yeah exactly that's true of course of course so do you have you have you guys all met each other's families over the years on tour i actually met uh very briefly uh jasmine's dad and mom and i have to say the mom is stunning the daddy's got who's how do you say oozes charisma oozes charisma like it's got like a really deep deep charisma but the mom is like she looks like a movie star i thought she do you know what big bieber was it was like a an art deco department in the 70s that only employed pretty girls.
26:31Is that what you're talking about? My mom was a Bieber girl. It's a big claim. It's like a thing. But Sam's parents are two of the loveliest people I've ever met. Oh, my God. Yeah. You guys all come from normal homes. I would have... No. That's what you think. We are just saying the nice stuff. Well, no, of course. We can't just tell you everything. Everybody's got skeletons. This is all surprising for...
26:52Jason Stewart:But you're not Nepo babies, though. No. I'm not. I'm maybe... I am, maybe. You've got a toe in the jacuzzi of nepotism. You're like, I'm not. Well, maybe. If I lived in Italy, I definitely would. See, this is what I say all the time. If I would have chosen to be an accountant, like my dad, I'd be a Nepo baby too. It's all just situational. Yeah, if I wanted to work by the milk factory, I could have done it. Or like a salsa, if you were like a salsa dancer. Are you nasty with the hips, bro? Are you moving like that? No, my dad is there. actually jasmine kind of is but it's just like it's just uh going against against his nature yeah i'm like i can dance but because of my dad i refuse to it's just the indy sleeves that like got him sideways i had to stop moving the jeans the jeans got too tight indy sleeves got us all sideways in one way or another that's first that's for sure sam moves his hips a lot actually sam's got hips for miles okay i don't need to i don't want to get into your dad's personal life but is he a dancer professionally or is this just his hobby he right so do you know what salsa dancing is yeah right do you know it was salsa dance um okay i know i'm i know i'm white but so are you so relax let's let's my my pop ain't no um so the um the the big thing in the mid-2000s was like a divorcees going to salsa dance to meet other divorcees my dad was just like pulling women left right and center at these things was like oh what's the way i get all of the women is i become a self-destructor so i have to be there every week so he did that turned out he got really fucking good at it and started going to cuba and beating cubans amazing this turkish man was uh fucking cubans up at their own game that's the good guy so your dad had a full career and life but then he got divorced and saw that what he could do with his hips and where that would lead him and said fuck it i'm like here's a stretch but um i love you but i've chosen salsa is what he said to his family i love how you had to specify that he got divorced just in case like you didn't want to like make it sound like a proper hoe like just cheating on on jasmine's mom and he got divorced guys don't worry to be clear there was no crossover it was a clean divorce in the court of law and then he began plowing through hoes he was cheating on someone though i don't know who but somebody was getting it okay so kind of like when you're like i'm good at Bikram maybe if I would get more bitches if I started instructing and then I had a you know I got it but he it was never like a salsa cult situation you never have needed an interventione let's not go that far Jason I don't want to say that I don't want to say no it feels like anything can be a cult if you believe I kind of did that I became a Pilates teacher to pull not to pull not to pull the things you do to pull i didn't know you were a lesbian what were you pulling there were loads of guys in my class how how basic for you to think that only women go to pilates you're right i apologize i've got exactly look we we chris and i have been to pilates hundreds of times in our lives and i'm usually the one of the only guy in there and the other women there don't like my presence well maybe i was looking for that one special person in the class.
30:13Jason Stewart:Yeah. I need a guy who's got enough balls to show up alone to a Pilates class. Exactly. Dripping charisma. That's real confidence. So when you taught Pilates, what kind of music did you play? Because historically, the music is awful. I didn't play music because I did the traditional Pilates. So you're saying it was... Is that like a bowl? Or is it just silent? Silent. Silent. But this is with the reformer or no reformer? No Reformer. Oh, so this is Matt Pilates, no music. Was it in a jungle or was it like in a cityscape? Yeah, was this in London, the borough? It was inside the Colosseum actually, just two circles, and then back to Rome.
30:55Jason Stewart:When Chris said Reformer, you kind of had a little bit of a stink on your face. Do you look down on Reformer Pilates? No. Be honest, Nina, come on. No, you're lying. It's okay if you do. Why do you look down on that? No, I'm just, I think it's great. I think reformer classes are a little bit hyped at the moment. So you're saying that a Mac class with you would have my core burning more than any reformer class I could find in Manhattan? If that's... No. If one class with her in the upper side butt would finally get a little come-go-to-definition. This is me at your class just having to do this because I'm cramping so much.
31:40yeah standing up standing up no no yeah the only guy as well like weird that's an interesting how often did you teach hungover never she respects the craft that you respect it too much I got that I just I always wonder it's like when you find out that you're when you get older and you realize that you're like high school teachers were like 23 and hungover all the time and you just at the time they seem so old and mature I'm a drunk I'm a drunk in class
32:07Jason Stewart:oh really we're gonna put on a movie because i want to watch it this one's good exactly that it's one of my favorites okay um well we should talk about the new record a little bit we're we're both loving it we both have been fans for a while actually i dj'd chris's wedding a year ago year and a half ago something like that and what what song was it was it punked that was on there? It was punk. Well, so we have a cursed, I have a cursed Bar Italia stories. I made this giant playlist of songs to be played. Like we do shows. So, you know, when doors open at seven, before we go on stage at eight, I made this playlist.
32:49And the instructions are always put this on shuffle. And I would say eight, eight times out of 10, they don't do that. And the first song is Bar Italia punked. So I've heard it. I've heard it more times than you have probably at this point. So your last song got played at your wedding. Yeah. That's so sick. It was a reception. I mean, it wasn't like I walked down the aisle to Bar Italia. That's kind of what I was imagining. We're like, can I come inside? No, I, yeah, well, Jason DJed and obviously knows my taste. He opened with Oasis, which really got the, set the tone. And then we kind of went from there.
33:30You actually didn't tell us what you thought of that.
33:32Jason Stewart:Oh, of Oasis. Yeah, we went to Wembley on Sunday. Yeah. And we were talking about on the last episode how grateful we are that we got to see them play in Europe because in America, Cage the Elephant is opening for them instead of Richard Ashcroft. Richard Ashcroft. Fucking amazing as well. Richard Ashcroft was fucking... I mean, we've both been listening to Ashcroft since the fucking, I don't know, mid-90s probably because we're a little older. but yeah i mean it was remarkable show everything about it was amazing just jumping up and down the entire time running all over the place it was just amazing i know a lot of americans who went to the uk ones which explains why no one could get a ticket they're playing in america right fucking now and you could be there i could have i could have gone last night and i was like i just don't want to sully my memory i don't need to go i don't need to go again well you had tickets and you didn't go?
34:24No, no. I just mean that like, there's plenty of tickets available in New York and LA. Like plenty of tickets available.
34:30Jason Stewart:If you're an influencer kind of person, you can just go. You know, it's not that hard in America. But in London, you know, we had to get a plug and pay, you know, the whole thing. Yeah, the problem is here that, you know, in London, well, here people are waiting in line politely to do, you know, Coke in the bathroom four deep, where in London, you know, they're just doing it right out in the open. off the back of the bald guy's head in front of you yeah my my friend my friend ollie uh who is british and was still scandalized by this saw a woman pissing in a cup that's common and then someone else drunk i think it was lager the whole thing did the woman chuck it though because that's what you're supposed to do you gotta throw it oh i didn't realize okay so you're saying this is this is this like a football thing that i'm not familiar with it's a football thing It's a festival thing Just explain, can a man do it or does it have to be a woman?
35:22I think the men might have started it It's much easier to piss in a cup for a man I think
35:26Jason Stewart:And you never stop rubbing it in our faces I would finish my lager Pull my hog out Relieve myself into a pint glass And then throw that glass What are you going to do, hold your piss? Throw it No, I'm just saying I would maybe just sit it down and walk away If you can't move, though, you can't just stamp it down. I've never been to a festival that's that packed, bro. And I know your sets ain't like that, so calm down now. Some of their smaller venues get pretty packed out, Chris. Come on. It also depends on how porous the floor is. It's sold out. Is it an outdoor? Is there dirt? Or is it a plastic floor where you're just going to be in your own puddle all day?
36:09So you're saying that you've probably in your life been rained down on with urine. Oh, no, I know I have. No, I refuse to believe that. It's happened to me at a festival, yeah. Apparently, it's like really good for your skin. Honestly, like I was going to move into a flat a while ago with someone who had like a huge gallon of piss in the room because they used to put it on their faces. On one face, they only have one face. but actually they develop multiple faces thanks to the pastry was this was this this was for like skincare reasons yeah yeah yeah like it was like fuck your korean skincare routine you just put piss on your face and that kind of sorts it all out can i ask can i ask i don't mean to look quite good so i was gonna say i don't want to assume gender but was she bad or how does she look experience a membership that backs what you or building with American Express Business Platinum.
37:15Enjoy complimentary access to the American Express Global Lounge Collection and apply to find out your welcome offer, which could be as high as 300 ,000 membership rewards points. American Express Business Platinum. There's nothing like it. Terms apply. Welcome offers vary and you may not be eligible for an offer. Learn more at americanexpress.com slash business dash platinum. Tomorrow morning is knocking. Stock your fridge now. How about a creamy mocha frappuccino drink? Or a sweet vanilla? Smooth caramel, maybe. Or a white chocolate mocha. Whichever you choose, delicious coffee awaits. Find Starbucks frappuccino drinks wherever you buy your groceries.
37:55Hear that? That's now Crispy and McCrispy Strips meeting creamy Caesar sauce. Sounds extra crispy. Caesar sauce at McDonald's for a limited time. Ba-da-ba-ba-ba. they they were they look quite good yeah extremely young so you can't really tell it's like time will tell there was that famous vice story in the early 2000s about the sperm oh yeah this is pre-salmon sperm facial trend we all do that like sam jasmine and i like we
38:29Jason Stewart:all do that actually i love coming on my face thank you for making sure we got clean audio of that jasmine i can't do that so i had to borrow it from them you gotta borrow it but you're in the sprinter for hours at a time you guys got nothing but time to kill yeah i think it's actually better if it's not yours so in some way it doesn't have to change it let's slow down now slow down yeah i mean i think i think your piss is only as good as the person that it's coming out of you know it's like i want to make sure it's from a sustainable source and sperm are very different i'm gonna i'm gonna say right right now that my i'm pissing too clean for it to work like it's just it's straight up water i don't 97 water yeah it wouldn't do anything i have no i So you think it's to do with having to be really toxic?
39:12A hungover piss, like pure yellow. That's the best. So good.
39:18Jason Stewart:Well, it looks like a Newcastle. Yeah, Newcastle Brownell. Well, that's for sure where you get enough festivals. So we'll just make sure to go to enough of that. Like he's drinking it right now, Jasmine. It does look. He fucking can't stop. What is the... So you guys play a lot of festivals though, right? Yeah. I assume. Yeah. Do you like them or are you kind of over it? You can be honest. It's like anything. Some are good, some are shit. Exactly. Some are really good. When they're good, they're really good. When they're shit, they're really fucking shit. Yeah, yeah, that's true. How often do you get to hang out versus like, we got to go?
39:53After. After we play. It really depends from people, right? They play. But also, yeah, we base it on who's playing. We've had some really fucking good, like seeing Iggy Pop in Mexico. Yeah, and Paul McCartney and like. You know what I mean? We've had some tops. Yeah. This is always my favorite because back in the hardcore days, you would see hardcore bands and they would get to say they played with Morrissey because they played at the same festival. So technically, you're like, oh, yeah, we played with McCartney. Yeah, exactly.
40:19Jason Stewart:And you're not lying. It was the Beatles, then Baratalia. I forgot who else played, but that's pretty much it. Doja Cat. Doja Cat. As well as Doja Cat. Doja Cat. Doja Cat. Somehow headlining above the Beatles, Doja Cat does sell more tickets than the Beatles now, unfortunately. imagine we're kicking we're kicking off that button to play first as well yeah exactly well it's cool that you got to see yiggy pop live because it's so good oh my god which is incredible i hope he has i hope he has some time left yeah yeah he's looking a little crazy he's looking he's gonna last a long time no don't don't do that don't do that he stuck up he stuck up for us like yeah in a big way in what sense yeah we had this um really shitty like really early on we played this gig in oxford and it was there was like the times reviewing it and the person was giving like they're not going to go anywhere because we didn't come out for an encore and he was on his show and i have this person's never played a show with the backstage is a bathroom like he like stuck up for us he got it yeah it was amazing you do a good iggy pop impression by the way jasmine well done i actually do a very good karaoke impression jasmine is particularly good jasmine and sam are both particularly good at karaoke actually i suck I am so bad.
41:32Yes, I do.
41:33Jason Stewart:You probably have one song that you're good at, though. No. Zero? Zero. No. Okay. What is your song? Maybe you just haven't found your song. What do they do that's so good? Or is it obscure? Or can they hit me with the Goo Goo Dolls? Jasmine's really good at doing Red Hot Chili Peppers and Jeff Buckley. I can rap. I can do late rap. Okay, hold on. Hold on. Like Can't Stop Addicted to the Shindig? Oh, that's my jam. That's your sweet spot right there. Red Hot Chili Peppers and Jeff Buckley is quite wise. Well, that's the kind of artist you're confronted with right now. Your range. But I mean, the guitar of Frusciante as well as the guitar of Buckley, those swimming together, it's not, you know.
42:18Yeah, I do air guitar, actually. I do air guitar. I don't want to ruin your fun here, but he's not having to play that, though. That's the thing. He just has to sing. Maybe you don't know how karaoke works. Even though you know salsa dancing, you might have missed that on karaoke. Jason can, his hips. I've never seen Jason do karaoke. I don't think we've ever done karaoke before.
42:40Jason Stewart:I would do Solitary Man. I think it's, is that Leonard Cohen? And then November Rain. Those are my two. But November Rain, it's like half the crowd is like, hell yeah, I love it. And the other half are like, did you have to pick an eight to nine minute song with like four bridges? Can you do it a cappella? Like right now? Do we have time? Nine minutes. Let me get a click track pulled up on Ableton here. I want to hear the whole Slash solo in the rain. He hasn't had enough Newcastle to perform that. But I remember being a kid watching that video where he had the little mirrored coffin with his wife's face on there.
43:22Jason Stewart:Solo in the rain. That's when a boy became a man. I said, I'm going to choose rock and roll. I remember actually me and Nina sitting and watching the whole of that video on my laptop. It's like, this is sick. Look at this. This is sick. It is sick. It's just plain old sick. You guys are wrong. That's one of the worst things that we've ever seen. Easily one of the worst bands we've ever encountered as a human people. But I do like the way Slash looks. I think he is an iconic figure in music. and I will never take it away from it. Look, we don't want to hear it, Chris. Don't patronize us. We know you're a GNR hater.
44:01Jason Stewart:Yeah, exactly. There's a really good video where he shows all of his guitars to Gibson. He's like, this one's called Choline.
44:09It's like egregious misogyny. It was his guitar. Oh, all the guitars are just named after women?
44:15Jason Stewart:This one's called Dumb Bitch. It's not even that far off.
44:24This one's called Dumb Bitch. Hey, tune up, dumb bitch, for me.
44:27Jason Stewart:We drop D. Speaking of priceless guitars, I would say that the new album sounds more expensive than your previous releases. Got your little money up. Was it more expensive? Yeah. Okay. But it's not art. Of course, of course, of course. I still think it's guitars. I mean, I'm happy there's a natural progression in production quality where, you know, i was listening to it i was like this is a real you know there's no no corners being cut no like it could be better it was just like this sounds as good as it could sound yeah i i think i think the the best thing about that album for me is the fact that a lot of the songs if not all the songs feel like quite resolved yeah because it felt like we did it through a longer period of time than previous work and i'm really happy with the fact that like it i'm not saying that the every song has to be your favorite but it feels like you've kind of got out a lot of the pulp i think resolved is the perfect word for it like i was listening to the new blood orange record yesterday and i was like this is a good collection some of them could be demos still and some of them are ideas that maybe are not yeah resolved yeah i quite like it doesn't mean they're bad yeah there was a lot of work also like bits being rewritten and like between sam and jasmine on guitar and like there was like a care span to try and like actually just get there rather than just leave things in potential which i think it's really it's it was really exciting like you could like you can tell like it's like you if you listen when i listen to stuff we've done in previous years like i feel like i'm like oh she's done that note there do you know what i mean yeah i still have that about these things and i would yeah for sure like resolve some of them because that would be that's a good problem to have you you have a you're a perfectionist you have your eye on the prize yeah i think this is the first time we've actually managed to actually like do things we feel like they're not they're not perfect we had the time we had the time to do it like does me like we didn't before and like i think the urgency well the urgency is still there and now you can feel it within the record like it's not polished in the way that other things can be polished obviously still ours but I think it was nice to have a stint of recording then a lot of moms kind of touring and doing all the festivals which are like as you said like really challenging and like you learn how to be quite it like you learn how to play together in a totally different way than in like a headlining show for example like it has to really work between you on stage uh to make it work for an audience that you kind of have to win over at times and then going back with that knowledge and just like refining and shedding things away like we basically had an editing process yeah who chris who are we talking to where they're where they said that they they don't they they'll write a song and then tour it and play it jarvis jarvis cocker yeah jarvis cocker was talking about that he'll they'll write a song and then tour it for a year the crowd will tell you change that part this is the good part that's the root of the song you know i don't like i don't think you should personally nothing against jarvis i don't think you should be like you shouldn't that's like fucking writing a song on ai well fuck fuck the audio fuck the audience yeah i always say i don't give a fuck what these losers think as long as they give me their money but i no it's not that you should you should have some integrity in your own like belief in what you think yeah i I think more what he was trying to express was that it would sort of reassure his impulses that were already there.
48:09Like maybe that part felt kind of weak and the crowd responded appropriately. So I knew that I should go. That makes a lot of sense to me. Yeah, exactly. I think we've had that ourselves as well. Like we haven't really played any of the songs that we had written in January, February or during the festival season. But we I think it's more about what Jasmine was saying in terms of like, like learning how to switch on and learning how to play together, which meant that the second time that we were in the studio, Sam and Jasmine and me, I found a sort of synchronicity in performing, which meant that that got translated into the writing.
48:57Because also recording and writing for us is often kind of simultaneous. We don't really have a writing period and then a recording period. Yeah, we do it at the same time. Yeah, we tend to do it quite at the same time and we like to start building songs quite quickly and then kind of maybe deconstruct it from there rather than just... And working with engineers this time made a huge difference. Oh, my God, yeah. Engineers do seem like... As long as you get one that you can trust. Important part of the recording process. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. Instead of us just running around.
49:29Jason Stewart:Do you guys record all of your parts at the same time or do you do them separately in separate rooms? We build things on the computer. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. there's a couple of instances where we have room recordings we might write at the same time right there's a few bits in twits jasmine that's true that's true but and actually also in the new record in the i don't know what's it called uh plastered like there's like one of the new songs that has like a live recording and layer underneath or it was written kind of live and then there's also a couple of times we tried to do it but then you never made yeah yeah and can you explain to me what you mean by build it on the computer you mean you all record your parts and then you put put them together you're saying there's a different method that i i don't understand produced yeah you're you're treating the recording as if you are a producer okay instead of like three people in a room jamming out he's looking at it on like a linear scale of like here's the this and this and then we need to hear and a hi-hat there kind of thing what software do you use when you're doing it i just want to use pro tools but previously used logic and ableton yeah this time produce why do you switch do you think it sounds better engineers were using produce yeah they all just use it yeah i quite like the interface it's famously disgusting nina well well well known that it's disgusting it's like it's honestly my most favorite interface so that's so funny like you you just you're just saying aesthetically it's pleasing to you yeah because that's as far as my engineering capacity girls i'm like you're judging you call us the rainbow it's it's a rich tradition i see what you're saying i see what you're saying it feels professional it feels like a tool that real people use versus ableton looks like a toy in comparison and logic it's more exciting but less serious logic logic's the ugliest for me yeah oh my god it's just garage band with a few extra hundred dollars on top of it yeah exactly jasmine do you use ableton to build like remixes and little like jamie xxy dancey kind of things on the side i studied that but i don't really do that what do you mean you studied it you went to jamie xx college or you're saying you just i suckled from the teat of charlie xx oh you're saying that you you taught yourself but you don't do it look we we made a lot of the early music on ableton i did go to university did you and you finished fuck no okay i was about to say you seem cooler than that thank you i finished university what are you trying to say it's different the pressures for women are so different you know i just the patriarchy it just fucks everything up i tell you what what is it what did you go to school for both of you now that now that i'm pilates no shut up that's not that's not a fucking ba yeah i had a ba in pilates i mean i bet i know a chick who has a ba in pilates i bet i bet i know somebody somewhere that would say yeah phd actually what is your You finished, though, so you have a degree in what?
52:32History of art. Okay, all right. That's one of the better things to go to college for. Is it? It's like literally, why am I asking? Well, even though it's useless, at least it's cool. Yeah, it's one of the hottest degrees. Yeah, for sure. Okay, I'm glad. I'm glad. Thank you, guys. Feel better.
52:48Jason Stewart:Especially when you go around Rome, you're like, I know, you can give a tour, basically. It was like post-structuralist, like London. so it was not about his it was about being against his what about you?
53:05sound dots and design okay so I mean that's reasonable your movement Jasmine is making me want to squeeze my tits I'm like maybe I should start doing that
53:16Jason Stewart:it's like a lymphatic drainage thing it actually is I was doing that for that reason you're like just releasing are you feeling sore from your workout this morning? yeah i actually am a little bit sore how many push-ups can you do uh i can do currently at least 100 normal ones okay i can do 10 in a row claps nice 10 clappers that's impressive i gotta say i'm impressed because you look like a little twig through the zoom but maybe you've got something underneath that fish eye is a fish island i can do i can i can do two at my i feel like you could get to 100 because what's your workout routine on the road nothing um eating okay that's not true that's not true you do hit the gym i try i i try i put loads of weight on the last tour in america what were those american portions you can't blame america what has got fat in it for fuck's sake don't hey you can get the fuck out of here with that you can get you can leave right now i'll call dei when we were writing uh the twits when we were writing the twits jasmine was on some army workout routine.
54:20Oh. Like every day. Oh, so now you like the army, but you don't like America. That's interesting. I don't like your fucking army. I like good armies.
54:29Jason Stewart:The British Royal Army. The good ones. Good armies. I like the good armies. You're out of your mind. Okay. So you're doing like a CrossFit caveman military style thing going on. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, we all play football until. Okay. Oh, yeah. We play football all the time. Every day. Who's nasty with it? Sam and Jasmine are really good. Sam plays a lot these days. Do you guys play in leagues when you're home and stuff? Sam plays like four games a day. Wow. Sam gets psycho with it. We were a bit obsessive. I don't understand, though. That's a hard thing to do, I guess, on the road. It doesn't seem like the most practical exercise.
55:05Well, no, because there's car parks. We play like keepyuppies. Okay, I got you. Oh, God. This is getting so unglamorous. You don't need to know. Sorry. Well, I'm actually kind of like, I'm advertising our needs, Nina. If someone takes a football match. No, I'm joking. I'm just saying, like, don't think of us in splitter vans in car parks. Sure. You're right. I'll think of you. Much better. Much better landscape. Yeah, and all the private planes that you take. Yeah, exactly. Those private gigs in Saudi Arabia. Exactly. Yeah, I'm on a PJ every day. Yeah, we play football on planes. Oh, I see. Your plane is so big that you can play keepy-uppies on the plane.
55:44I see. Exactly. I'm sorry. I misunderstood. I apologize. It's okay. It's okay.
55:50Jason Stewart:Okay. So are you guys going to come to America? When are you guys going to come for? What are you talking about? We are in New York. They're in New York right now. We came to America. We still got to fucking do this on Zoom. Yeah, we don't do this in person because it's too much work. Are you here just on a press tour or are you doing shows as well? Yeah. We're just doing press. Okay. Just doing press. What bullshit are you doing? Because this is kind of the end in the beginning. It's the end of the road. yeah i mean rollingstone.com i mean you gotta get that's a paywall you know what i mean rolling stone can't spell though we actually have an exhibition on friday of drawings uh this gallery called trieste gallery oh uh in brooklyn who drew the draw who did the drawings we all do we did the whole band yeah we all separate we all separately draw oh so collage so they're not okay so everybody did their own but they're okay okay i'm looking at more drawings by bar italia exactly rsvp required i mean that's not true i mean yeah do it do it do it someone someone texted me earlier be like i got the ticket to your show and i was like you don't need a ticket like we're not performing just to be clear it's just uh this is in ridgewood i think oh i'm sorry i can't make it there 476 people have rsvp'd to look at a collection of your drawings yeah that's impressive how about that that's a really good feeling are they for sale yeah all proceeds go to charity what charity are they going to no we can't talk about it no comment okay harry styles no comment hairstylist okay we're getting we're getting to get rid of harry's little mullet we're raising money in ridgewood that's that's brave like a go find me on like ryan air flights for harry style Okay, so do you guys know anything about Ridgewood?
57:38It's just like It's not as cool as where we're at right now No, no, no It is Isn't that Queens? It's kind of like Queens Isn't Queens? Yeah, I think Queens is cool It's very cool
57:49Jason Stewart:Maybe I'm not going to go No, Queens is cool I'll probably just pass on this one It's like, mate, I'll just stay in Williamsburg I'm all set It's fine It's fine, Jason Ridgewood is for young people and that's where all the raves happen. That's exciting. I think I've been there once, but it takes quite a long time to get there. But it's the epicenter. The type of person that's going to attend a collection of your drawings, this is the epicenter of where they're going to live. I don't mean that in a derogatory work. I honestly don't appreciate this facetious tone every time you have to say our drawings.
58:26I'm not sure you understand. Sam's a fucking trained, like yeah literally trained like i'm not sure you understand i'm sorry i'm sorry like i my drawings are shoes i've done just draw it really bad drawings of brian jones so actually loki's
58:45Jason Stewart:spoiling i'm not questioning the quality of the artwork whatsoever you are you are in your tone okay i felt it i don't want to i don't want to pick side jason yeah chris felt it chris felt it he's not sticking out for you so that means it's true it's something that i have to work on I would like to see one of your drawings Do you have a drawing? Shut up Don't get into it Jason's a former graffiti artist I did not draw this But my wife had a security guard Draw an impression of me Oh my god Why don't you give us a drawing to show to our exhibition We don't need to sell it Yeah Jason can you overnight one of your graffiti Black book sketches Yeah I got you I'll do a graffiti of some shoes I think you should do Bar Italia and Bubble That's great That would be like We could literally show it in the gallery With your name We would never You wouldn't want credit for his art Of course I just want to be clear I think that's really awesome of you guys And what is that charity again
59:55No comment So you guys are basically in New York to turn up and do a little bit of shit like this is what it sounds like to me. I'm here to make trouble. Are you partying? Don't look at me. I'm not. I'm fresh like a rose. Nina's fresh. Who slept more last night? I slept eight hours. That's nice. That's strong for a musician. I'm surprised.
1:00:21Jason Stewart:yeah and then what and you were somewhere in dime square until 5 a.m last night jasmine is that what happened it was a monday i was i was walking around the street having a fake argument with my girlfriend just just to live it just to live just to feel something we've all been there brother to feel like you're on hbo's girls exactly it's because it's like a new very beautiful relationship so you have to prove yourself like that makes it more of a relationship if you have an argument How new is the relationship? A month. Oh, wow. I've got her name titled on me already. She's sick. I only met her yesterday, but she's very stylish.
1:01:02I think she knows you guys, actually. Oh, this is an interesting wrinkle. Please, we'll bleep her name. Can we see this tattoo? Yeah, but only if you don't say it. They definitely say it. Jason is such a thing. No, no, no. No, no, no. We won't. We won't. We bleep stuff all the time. Have respect for her. What's your star sign, Jason? Virgo. Virgo gang. Oh. Are you Virgo as well, Chris? Yeah, hell yeah. Oh, shut up. What does it say? I can't hold on. Oh, I knew it. I knew it. What does it say, Jason? Oh, no. Oh, no. It's Chris. Actually, Jasmine's girlfriend is Chris. Guys, I'm sorry. I'm going to ask you.
1:01:42It's Chris. Jasmine and Chris are going out. Chris, I know you're married, so this is a bit weird. She's fine. Yeah, but she's fine when it's with guys. It's all good. Hold on. Am I on your list? I'm going to text your significant other now and tell her to leave you alone. You're a nice guy. You don't deserve this. You don't deserve all this. He has a guitar called Dumb Bitch, and that's you, Chris.
1:02:10Jason Stewart:This generation slash, many are saying. Okay, let's go back, circle back to your thoughts on the Virgo sign. Is this a yay or a nay? I felt some negativity there. No, no. I love Virgo. Sam is Virgo, but it's Virgo Leo, slyly. He's on the cusp. I'm full Virgo. Full Virgo. Yeah. Yeah, Virgo's great. Virgo's great. The attention to detail, perfectionists. Okay. Say no more. You could say bad stuff about Virgos too. You don't have to just reach. Do you have bad experiences with our ilk? No. Honestly, if it wasn't for Sam and Jasmine, me half of my life wouldn't exist so i i owe it to burgers how did you wait did you guys meet did i read that you guys were like neighbors yeah we had mutual friends i mean that's a very romantic idea it's like raponzo the way we act the way me and you actually met is incredibly romantic though yeah that's true that is true uh it was like we were going out for a party and like we had a really awkward conversation we had like get to know you conversation while nina was like on my butt in the basket of my bike wow it's like how many things have you got wow so what instrument do you play also like queen of awkwardness so i was like how many siblings do you have that's it no that's in a basket look we have to ask dumb questions that's our job so that's not even crazy at all to us that's fine yeah but we weren't facing each other like he was trying not to crash i could have also so this is like a love is blind kind of thing you couldn't see each other's faces you just had to get to know back of your head yeah pretty much so what kind of food do you like to eat Are you gluten intolerant?
1:03:51What's your diet? What kind of food do you like to eat?
1:03:55Jason Stewart:Do you like food? You like food? Do you watch the telly sometimes? I do too But Sam introduced me to Jasmine And then nothing happened for a while Me and Sam met an open mic night Yeah you actually met through music Kind of straight away What the fuck were you doing? What were you doing an open mic night chief? Give me a breakdown I was looking for an excuse to get away from my ex. Sure. You're saying your relationship was so bad that you had to go cover Michelle and Deggio Ocello by yourself at a bar? He was singing Red Hot Chili Peppers. It was in Hackney Wick, yeah. That's why it's so good at her own.
1:04:32Jason Stewart:Do you remember what songs you were covering? I was playing my own songs. Yeah, honestly, Sam said that he saw kinship musically, and then they started talking, right? And then I went to watch Sam play the next time. and then we started seeing each other parties all the time were you in band but you've been in bands before or no yeah me and sam had both separately been in bands before okay i've never bar italia was my first band uh i don't think that's true neither what the zoom band oh but that wasn't a bad zoom band look like a band to me nina i feel like yeah i feel like you could have some weird history where you were like on on like who's got talent italy you know what i mean You know, it's like, oh, she low-key.
1:05:12No, I wish. She went pretty far in Eurovision when she was 12. I could see you being like, well, I had one album. It was a one-album deal with a major, but it was in Italy.
1:05:22Jason Stewart:I wish. I honestly wish. It makes sense for you to never have been in another band before. It just feels right for your overall spirit and aura. Do you think this is your calling? Like, do you think music has, have you found yourself? Or is it like a surprise? I mean, I've wanted this life my whole life and gave up on it and it happened and i'm incredibly blessed oh that's nice that's a good story i like that yeah i was having a conversation once with jasmine and we just had released choral and uh where jasmine was like really sad talking about uh wanting to be a musician and i remember me being quite optimistic about it and be like it's never never say never it will happen you just need to keep going it was like and then it happened yeah then i quit my job and then things fell into place and yeah sometimes you got to go whole you got to jump off the ledge you know do you think it's your calling nina i honestly she's i'll give it another year and then i think i'm done with you guys i don't know i don't know what my calling i don't think i have um i now i didn't know i didn't know how much i would like it and then and then i did it and then i think writing and singing and i love right i've always written poems like all my life i've written so that was definitely something and then i am never happier than when i make music so i think in that sense well then yeah it is that's a yeah you answered yeah but it wasn't like it's not like jasmine i was like dreaming to be a musician it kind of happened to me i like which kind of fits with how my life works like i often feel like like that even in like in relationships sometimes where it's like i'm just not that aligned with what sometimes happens to me like i'm just looking at something and then something else happens and that but you can go with it you can go with it which is a skill in itself yeah i i think in that sense yeah i'm quite brave and you are an incredibly optimistic person so like you do things a lot because of your outlook yeah that's true not by accident yeah that's true yeah and also like i think i work hard like i so even if i didn't know how to sing i kind of i'm learning but you you had said you had sang before or not not even at all like on the shower i sang no i started singing i i released my first song uh with um dean blunt in 2014 okay okay and that was the first time i sung okay like a proper as in like my own song and like yeah yeah yeah not just in shower i honestly came to it quite late yeah no it's cool i it gives me hope as a person who the only thing i think is cool is being a musician but i have no skills so it's a little tough it's tough for me um but you know maybe one day there's always management i always played the piano when i was little so i had ways in i could i could i'm too big to ride in a basket on a bike so that kind of fucks up my whole that whole thing is kind of out the window as we need a new meet cute okay last question we always ask this is to cool people in bands you don't have to answer if you don't want to top five prescription drugs of all time oh god um ibuprofen paracetamol okay they slap anti-medicine yeah nina's nina's anti-prescription i think anything on the but anything on the bayern catalog yeah can i can i say like uh so oregano oil yeah this is a good yeah let's get a holistic version top five food is medicine uh okay ginger propolis um magnesium i'm i'm i'm really i'm pro zinc right now oh yeah yeah i'm just it's because of your cum yeah exactly i'm just i'm i'm feeling like more of a man than have you noticed a difference in your cum actually yeah actually yes okay oh god do you know how many milligrams of z are you taking and you're shooting better ropes as well nina that's what i hear yeah congratulations yeah it's pretty we need to start doing ads for fucking zinc on this podcast we can move a million i'm just saying he's tasty i'm just saying it's really tasty this is the best this is the best and worst episode of how long gone ever recorded i can't believe how much fun i've had in the last hour yeah because people talk a lot about how the zinc makes you have more cum they don't talk about how it becomes much more tasty and you would never think that zinc would have things because zinc on its own doesn't taste great no in my experience yeah that's true okay the oregano oil also adds to a little bit of the rustic flavor as well why do you take oil of oregano i find it no i don't take it i don't take it every day but uh every time i'm a bit sick i just take it and then it just zaps it did i tell you oh my god i could hear you i could hear you across the wall i was laughing it was so much me and nina were in hotel rooms next to each other in spain the other day and i was feeling a bit sick so she gave me some like and was like smiling in like a really fucking evil way like like when you've like put too much weed in a bong for someone like and i just immediately threw it up all over yeah it was coughing it was i was i put three drops and I was supposed to be just one.
1:10:43And it was like coughing so much. It was quite funny. That's how you know it works.
1:10:47Jason Stewart:It's like smelling salted. Yeah. It destroys you. It works. All right. Thank you, guys. We really appreciate it. All right. I'm glad you like the album. I'm sorry we didn't talk that much. That's okay. We don't want to hear about it. We'd rather listen to it. Bar, tell you. Yes. Yes. Yeah, it's really good. Congratulations on a job well done. Thank you. It's called Some Like It Hot and it comes out October 17th. Yes. Okay. Yeah. I think so. Y 'all don't know shit about shit. All right, great. Thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you soon. Thank you. Bye-bye. Ciao, ciao.
1:11:20Ciao.
1:11:40I'm ready to spend all your cash in a one-night splash. Have you had enough of the fun? Close your eyes, exhale, feel your body relax, and let go of whatever you're carrying today. Well, I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class. I got them delivered free from 1-800-CONTACTS. Oh my gosh, they're so fast. And breathe. Oh, sorry. I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order. Oh, sorry. Namaste. Visit 1-800-CONTACTS.com today to save on your first order. 1-800-CONTACTS.
From the publisher
Bar Italia is a band from London that we're both fans of. Their new record, Some Like It Hot, is out next month on Matador. We chat with Nina and Jezmi about Vogue's new editor, Tim Dillon's Abu Dhabi payday, Howard Stern, Harry Styles in Rome, Jezmi's dad's salsa dancing career, silent mat pilates, pissing in a cup at the Oasis show, our karaoke songs, how they write songs, Pro Tools as a band member, good and bad festivals, how many push ups Jezmi can do, and their top five over the counter homeopathic remedies.
instagram.com/baritaliaa
twitter.com/donetodeath
twitter.com/themjeans
howlonggone.com
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
