855. - Lukas Gage

9:27Lukas Gage:works because we expect nothing less emma stone's like 35 at best i i don't i don't understand it I don't understand it but I yeah I wanted to talk about this movie that got announced from Charlie XCX and and Aiden Zamiri but it there's a lot of people in it that have been on this show and um you know I think I know where this is going no no no Kate Berlant Rachel Sinnott uh Mel Ottenberg uh Goth Princess Tish Weinstock but what would the one that the one that stuck out to me um kylie jenner yeah so what what do you think kylie jenner can do because i besides like look good do you know what i'm saying like do you think she's gonna surprise us with some chops that we didn't see coming because i do kind of think that's a possibility i believe that she is gonna

10:17Jason Stewart:have a little walk-on two-line role not unlike a huck to uh in the whatever he she was just in a tv show was she it was um oh it's called chad powers oh yeah chad powers is from the from uh our friends

10:35Lukas Gage:over there the disney corporation where that's right what's his name why am i blanking on his

10:39Jason Stewart:name yeah we're all we're super blanking right now glenn powell gp glenn powell glenn powell

10:44Lukas Gage:walks on to a college football field and plays at but he's actually an adult a classic trope a classic joke hawk to it should be on that that's cool that hawk too is on that though i like that

10:55Jason Stewart:a lot and she steals the show but she only had really two lines you know i just feel like kylie's

11:02Lukas Gage:been spending time with you know timothy chalamet recent uh joiner of the head shave club and i think maybe some of his uh chops could have rubbed off on her that's not meant to be an innuendo and

11:17Jason Stewart:i think i think that maybe yeah who's who's uh who's timmy running lines with his life partner

11:23Lukas Gage:right exactly i mean if she was imagine if she was trying to do this with travis scott i don't think he i think he only makes noises so that that wouldn't that wouldn't work for travis scott

11:32Jason Stewart:it's more so like with the tide pan out because he spilled again or whatever it might be you know

11:37Lukas Gage:you know that they're out they're out in calabasas and and and travis scott's eating eating mashed peas one of those rubber rubber rubber rubber stormy want baba and travi want baba

11:53Jason Stewart:both at the same time.

11:55Lukas Gage:So she's juggling that. Timothy also posted one of his twisted little videos to promote this new Marty Supreme movie. And I was talking to our friend Mikey last night. Not the Mikey you're thinking of, the other Mikey that we deal with. I don't want to dox anybody. And he was like, you know what's so funny about Timmy that's so interesting is that I forget that he's like raised on Kanye West. And that cannot be understated. Like how much that influences

12:22Jason Stewart:like microplastics it gets in there whether you like it or not it gets in there and it's like

12:26Lukas Gage:that's why and and and i was like wow i've never thought about that and you're absolutely right there is a little bit of that in this sort of performance um but i wish the best for kylie and we all know that that that kanye has a type and i'm sure that type is kylie jenner so then tim is like yo i'm yeah i'm the og now big bro g i'll wear timberlands in the summer i don't give a fuck um but i i think it's uh i wish them both best of luck marty supreme seems like a real winner everybody loves it they're they're saying they're saying it's unbelievable i'm sure uh i'll eventually see it once things calm down they're saying safety brothers about wrestling scaring the hose safety brothers about ping pong yay yeah i i yeah they both picked uh sports which is interesting i don't think of them either but i think the i've been told the marty supreme uh soundtrack is what's his name um and it's apparently amazing his best work one of no tricks point ever yeah yeah i don't say that out loud because i fuck it up every time i'll just call him daniel but i don't know him like that i'm not gonna pull a west i actually got a situation

13:36Jason Stewart:from daniel actually i don't know oh you don't know him okay uh it's it's cool it's cool uh we

13:42Lukas Gage:have a guest it's different we have a guest today i think this is the the quickest return to how long

13:47Jason Stewart:gone ever yeah because lucas gage may have been the most talked about guest that we've had i got i probably received the most positive messages about that episode yeah he's a little he's a

14:01Lukas Gage:little more well liked than the baha 'i faith in the how long gone uh universe uh but he's got a book that's that's making waves uh i wrote this for attention uh he put his pretty face on like cover like a real g it's first week we're trying to get those sales up um but he's an actor you know him from our show you know him from all his shows he's our favorite little slut let's get into the dirt with the og this episode of how long gone is brought to you by superpower super power jason you know recently i went to see the old doctor you know and i i left the medical facility in Beverly Hills. And I just felt like I didn't get any good info.

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20:04Jason Stewart:Casting couch.

20:05Chris Black:Why are you showing us your casting couch? No, it's my future architectural digest. Okay.

20:10Jason Stewart:I'm manifesting my conversation pit.

20:16Lukas Gage:That's exactly what's going on. That is. All right, Lucas, welcome back to How Long Gone. Where are you right now? You look like, oh, are you in your model's apartment that you told me about?

20:26Chris Black:No, this is the Tribeca frat house, Harvard bros that I'm living in. I'm living with five guys that went to Harvard in the same frat, and they had an open room. And that's where I'm currently living.

20:41Jason Stewart:Yeah, so if you're wondering about going to Harvard, once you graduate, you can live in a house with five dudes in Tribeca. Fast track to success.

20:49Lukas Gage:It's worth every penny, though. It's worth every penny. That crimson you can't replicate. Okay, you told me about this last time I saw you. Or maybe at the J.Crew that you told me about this. Have you successfully had intercourse with any of these fraternity brothers since? No circle jerks.

21:07Chris Black:No orgies have happened since. But a lot of conversations that are questioning.

21:16Lukas Gage:You're saying they're Lucas curious or just in general curious?

21:21Chris Black:I don't know if they're me curious. you bread crumbing these bros you know you gotta you gotta

21:28Jason Stewart:leave a trail of creatine to your bedroom

21:32Chris Black:there's just like celsius in every corner of this apartment

21:37Lukas Gage:wait you're saying you have mushroom gummies if I come in your room okay I'll check it out

21:42Jason Stewart:okay a lot of celsius on campus does this apartment or building have a name like a nickname

21:49Chris Black:like how a frat house might There's got to be a nickname for the place, but I'm the new roomie.

21:57Lukas Gage:Are you doing your part? If somebody takes a couple slices of your provolone, are you pissed off? Are you writing your name on the Cheerios? Are you cool? No, I'm cool.

22:08Chris Black:We've organized a dinner every Sunday, so we have our traditions. We do our own thing, but it's been nice. I feel like I have a new group of friends. And I feel like I am experiencing what it would have been like if I went to college and had roommates.

22:26Lukas Gage:Well, look, if you would have gone to college based on what I know about you, your roommates wouldn't have been this hot just based on where you would get in. But I mean, I could be I guess San Diego.

22:35Jason Stewart:You don't think San Diego Community College would be hot, people? I think that's a good fucking hot.

22:40Lukas Gage:That's a good.

22:40Jason Stewart:We have a lot more Latin flavor at the very little. Okay, so every Sunday, all the bro, I don't care what, no sluts, no sports, no devices. Guys night. Dudes only. We're going to make Nana style lasagna. And then everyone just goes around and pitches. Is that what happens?

22:58Chris Black:Kind of. One of the guys is the cook of the house. He's in charge of the meals. And we just have a little family bro time where we just check in with how we're feeling.

23:09Jason Stewart:Do you zell? Does everybody zell him at the end because he cooks? I haven't even paid for the rent.

23:15Chris Black:I haven't even sent a Venmo yet.

23:17Lukas Gage:You're like, bro, I left the Gourmet Garage receipt on the fridge. Did you not see the pink highlighted part?

23:23Jason Stewart:I think you're paying in other ways other than cash. Oh, no.

23:27Lukas Gage:My Tekla towel fell down a little bit. Oops.

23:30Chris Black:No, it's your job to get them into the dope parties. I've been going to their parties, actually, but it feels very much like a start of a porn when everyone's just in their boxers ironing on a Sunday morning.

23:43Lukas Gage:I like this for you, but I feel like you're doing this partly for financial reasons, but also because it may lead to something inspirationally. Not sexually. I feel like maybe this is meth-y.

23:57Chris Black:This is more for the bit in the story.

23:59Jason Stewart:This is an FX series ready to be written.

24:02Chris Black:It really kind of is. If Benny Drama can do it, I think you can too. Overcompensating season two. I'm drawing on character study. You know, I think, yeah, there's definitely, I love everything for a story. And it's just funny to say I did it. And also I'm making$4 on this movie that I'm doing out here.

24:23Lukas Gage:Yeah, I guess that those relocation budgets.

24:26Chris Black:They're like, here's$1 ,000 for the month of New York.

24:29Lukas Gage:Yeah, New York. I was about to say, there's no amount of money that can really make it work in New York. Unless you're Jennifer Lawrence and you're living at the Greenwich. That's no shot at you. I just feel like there's no way to make it work.

24:41Chris Black:There's only so many like I've DMed every hotel asking if I could do a post for them. And they're like, we don't care. We don't want it. We can do a week.

24:52Lukas Gage:We can't do two months. Sorry. That's just not this time. We're not going to be able to swing that. The month is a long time.

24:57Jason Stewart:I can get you like three days comped. No problem. We can talk later. If you just need a staycation away from the guys.

25:04Chris Black:Yeah, we'll talk later. Check out the W Hoboken. They're reopening. This might be the time. I did the W Union Square for a week, but Hoboken might be where I need to hit up next.

25:12Lukas Gage:Dude, Hoboken could be sick for you, too, as far as this sort of, you know, if you're on this path. I think Hoboken, why not? Let's do it.

25:19Chris Black:Why not? What did you think about Addison Rae? Not to change subjects, but was your mind blown?

25:24Lukas Gage:I don't know if my mind was blown.

25:26Jason Stewart:I didn't even know that you were there and we were standing on the same VIP balcony. That's because your creepy ass knelt underneath people.

25:35Lukas Gage:Jason, people were... Did you see that? Were you the crawler? Yes. I was the crawler.

25:39Chris Black:You were the crawler. Well, you were with a... There was a girl, though, too. It was me and Chase Suey Wonders who was in the movie with me, and we just fucking ducked under people, got trampled on, and literally sitting underneath Julia Fox's vagina watching Addison Rae kill it on stage.

25:57Lukas Gage:Some people would pay good money for that, but you got it for free.

26:01Chris Black:Lucas wins again. Some people have. I fucking won. Okay, so... People were pissed.

26:04Jason Stewart:Because you guys are both tiny little demons going through everyone's legs. Because I saw you scurrying. And I was like, who is that? How'd they get up here? Kind of thing. If I would have known it was you. Because I felt so bad. Because I'm 6 '9". And I was having a hard time seeing the show. So what does that mean for a normal sized person? You have to. I mean, and Chase is, I'm assuming, a small.

26:29Chris Black:She's small, yeah.

26:30Jason Stewart:You have no choice but to go in between the legs. and did you enjoy the show in that in that way i thought it was kind of one of the best

26:37Chris Black:seats in the house honestly i was i agree pressed up against a fence uh really right above addison watching her do her thing i loved it that's the worst that's the worst venue in in new york by far

26:49Lukas Gage:terminal five is rotten it's rotten the location the setup once you're there it feels like you're in jail and you're looking down at somebody performing in the yard kind of vibe and i don't like that i fucking hate it i hate it addison ray was exactly what i thought it would be a lot of

27:06Chris Black:dancing not very much singing but it doesn't matter i loved it i was 10 song i like every concert should be 10 songs let's make it an hour long i agree with that let's make a lot of dancing stretch those 10 songs out all today i can't do these were you were you turned up or were you yeah because you were late so i assumed you i was late me and chase came from set we ran off set early and we got trapped by the stills photographer trapped her car in front of ours and we ran back to set like prosthetics and wigs falling off screaming at them to move their car like we have to go to addison move move and somehow chase got a spot right in front of terminal five and came in

27:44Lukas Gage:at the first song or second song that's pretty that's pretty good i i i what is the what kind of prosthetics are you wearing for this movie i mean i'm i'm actually not the other people are

27:54Chris Black:wearing prosthetics it's a it's a biopic and i can't they won't let me talk i'm sure it'll be out in a minute but um she's like wearing a wig and other people are wearing like a fake nose and all that stuff i'm i'm just i did purr my hair and okay mine wasn't that crazy i just want to

28:10Lukas Gage:make the story sound better no perm is a perm is a serious commitment and change to one's physical

28:16Jason Stewart:appearance i agree no totally so you just did subway takes yeah how do you think you did all

28:21Lukas Gage:Let's scoop him. What's the take?

28:23Jason Stewart:We'll bleep it. We'll bleep it.

28:25Chris Black:We'll bleep it. My take was I had a couple that I was playing with, and the most natural one that came out was, I think, sex.

28:36Jason Stewart:But do you have a subconscious desire to hide your body by the cover of darkness?

28:42Chris Black:Yeah, I think the lighting is not great in the morning. I want lights off. I want to be clean. I want. Do you like to see with your hands? Correct.

28:56Lukas Gage:It's funny because you strike me as a bit of an exhibitionist. Not saying you're bent over the ping pong table in Tompkins, but you know what I mean.

29:04Chris Black:Not yet. No, I am a little bit of an exhibitionist, but I feel like more... I would be okay with the exhibition happening just at nighttime. I just don't. In the morning, I'm not ready. I need to prepare.

29:17Lukas Gage:If you haven't scrubbed your tongue yet, it's just, you know.

29:20Jason Stewart:It's a lot of bacteria. What if it's just a little morning top? Just a little whoops. Like a morning. Well, that's it. You ain't got to do much.

29:27Chris Black:Just like a morning, like just the tip?

29:29Lukas Gage:No, not even that. No, you're just laid back. You got to know. Your only job is to look happy. You know, you ain't got to do shit. Yeah.

29:36Jason Stewart:There's only one hole in play. Only one hole in play and it's not mine. And it's where you put your chia pudding in. My overnight oats have to wait. that's i think you could wrap your brain around that right yeah you can i could do it i could do it i just you have to you have to pee first of course you know i gotta pee yeah it's a lot it's

30:00Lukas Gage:a lot so are you are you enjoying your time in new york i feel like this is a a long stretch for you

30:05Chris Black:it is it is i'm well i'm enjoying running into you for two minutes at a time and yeah that's a gift

30:12Lukas Gage:that's a tough and the people wish they could get yeah no it was great that's been great i'm having

30:17Chris Black:fun here it's a lot i'm kind of exhausted with the press part of things you've been really busting

30:24Lukas Gage:it wide open i said to jason i don't know who's i don't know who's busting it more him or mark ronson you guys have been on a fucking we're on a terrible fucking ramp and then you know they they pull they pull certain things from your book so i'm like gonorrhea chlamydia boy uh i'm doing a

30:39Chris Black:fucking brand deal for prep so i'm just really it is just like it doesn't get more hold on you're actually doing a brand deal for prep i'm doing a brand deal for prep right now okay that's a dream healthy sexuals healthy sexuals baby uh gilead and i teamed up and okay we're selling it so it's

30:59Jason Stewart:like a new form of sexuality like a heterosexual homosexual healthy sexual is that the yeah there's

31:05Lukas Gage:a there's a it's just for everyone you know perhaps for everyone we've you know we've ideated on this program about creating prep for straight people and we got a lot of we got a lot of i want not going to say negative feedback but no one seems super interested now it sounds like you're

31:20Chris Black:being paid to shield exactly that i'm being paid to sell that message exactly exactly how long gone

31:26Lukas Gage:makes the world takes as usual okay well that's yeah because you said in the book that you had a couple run-ins with the stis correct that's that's the deal yeah i should have really thought about

31:36Chris Black:that when i was writing this book that like i didn't think when i'm writing my book a year ago in my room like oh this is a really funny story i got a double double whammyst dot sdi was from a from an axe like that soon that would be all over google and yahoo and like my mom and family members sending me an article but they know you're they know you're a little bit i know i'm sure

31:59Jason Stewart:mom i'm a slut you knew this was coming nobody nobody passed out from from surprise and shock when they learned that you may have had to take a pill exactly a while ago yeah no they were mild

32:10Chris Black:it was a mild case it was a mild scd but you're saying what happens and this is obvious to anybody

32:16Lukas Gage:who who consumes media of any sort when someone's promoting something you're saying basically that the same two or three things are are cherry-picked by every single place you go and they want to

32:27Jason Stewart:talk about like so how old were you when you were sexually assaulted what was that like was that

32:32Chris Black:bad awesome they love bringing that one out over and over yeah because i was i was joking with

32:38Lukas Gage:Jason earlier about how Mark has to go do NPR and talk about turntablism, but you have to go sit in some room with two gay guys being like, so.

32:47Jason Stewart:What was it like meeting Aaliyah? That was so amazing, wasn't it? Did you fuck her? Yeah, you don't have to tell me. And you're like, all right, so the camp counselor touched your dick when you were 10? Was that what it was?

32:58Lukas Gage:Yeah, it's just a difference. It's watching these two things in parallel, and the difference is clear, let's say.

33:05Chris Black:Yeah.

33:05Lukas Gage:But you're at the tail end. His book got turned into a movie or a TV show.

33:10Jason Stewart:Brad Pitt bought, Plan B bought Mark's book. Okay, Plan B bought your book, Prep bought, I'm sorry, Plan B bought Mark's book. Prep's going to have to buy your shit and readapt it into a healthy sexual tale.

33:22Chris Black:Let's fucking go.

33:23Jason Stewart:If they want to be an ally to straights.

33:25Lukas Gage:But did you think, did you ever consider taking anything out once you had the whole thing in front of you?

33:30Chris Black:You're like, well. No, I wish I did. I mean, yeah, you're so right. I'm literally getting, and the questions also, So the ones are like the funniest one to me is a the sexual molestation one where they're like, you wrote a line about how you were pissed that he ruined your REI sleeping bag. And I'm like, oh, yeah, no, that was like a joke. I was just trying to make light of that situation. And they were like, they just don't understand it. Or they're like, so did you actually write this book for attention?

33:57Jason Stewart:Damn, bro. You got to stop doing all these dear media podcasts. They ain't got a whole lot. I really I got to come back.

34:03Chris Black:This is where I feel safe.

34:06Lukas Gage:Those lobotomized shorties over at Deer Media ain't going to ask you the questions you want to answer. That's just what the deal is. No, I know.

34:13Jason Stewart:Yeah, over here on How Long Gone, we're going to be like, I know you got a Halloween costume already planned. How gay is it going to be?

34:22Chris Black:Are you dressing up again as a popper or you've traded this year? No, but I'm going to have poppers and mushrooms at my book party that you guys are coming to on Tuesday. We've got them to sponsor it, so you will be coming.

34:33Lukas Gage:I wish I was there. I wish I was available.

34:36Jason Stewart:Wait, is it in New York or LA?

34:38Chris Black:Yeah, it's in New York on Tuesday. I'm in town on Tuesday. Better get your fucking ass out there, Jason.

34:43Lukas Gage:Where is it? Well, I don't want to dox it, I guess. You can bleep it out. It's a... Nice. Okay, so they're wasting no... They're spending every penny on this thing. They're ready to really get you. Do you have to hire your own publicist?

34:55Chris Black:No, I had to whore myself out to meta and threads. I had to get my own publicist. Yeah, and to answer your question about the book thing, I'm like, I was doing the Audible. a month ago and my voice and I was like nobody clocked some of these lines in here like I made a metaphor about feeling like a whore in Nantucket with Laffy Taffy like stuck to my jeans or something like insane like that and I'm like no editor at Simon & Schuster said hey maybe this doesn't work

35:22Lukas Gage:you're like seven people read this in full multiple times and no one's gonna yeah but you know I think that what you think shouldn't slip through and what a normal you know I think they also So I would assume if I was on that side of it that you want all of this in here because you're a pretty live out loud person. Yeah.

35:40Chris Black:Yeah. No, I think that part is okay. I just feel like I don't even know if I've ever really read it. And the amount of grammar errors, even I clocked it. And I'm like, yeah, basically all to say if you sell a book, you will be doing all of the work yourself, including editing.

35:58Lukas Gage:But do you think that – all right. So are you happy that you did it? Do you feel like you accomplished something or are you like, what did I just do with two years of my life? I'm never happy.

36:09Jason Stewart:If you read, I haven't finished the whole book, but I feel like once I do, I will learn that you, whatever happens, you won't be happy, right?

36:16Chris Black:Yeah. I mean, there's not a pretty clean, like redemption arc or a big thing that I saw at the end of it. I think it's pretty insane that I manically decided to write a book and that it's actually going to be on bookshelves and people are going to be reading it. I think it's pretty good. It's not perfect. I like it, though. I'm proud of it.

36:39Lukas Gage:But you're saying you're happy that you did it. Overall, it's a W for you mentally.

36:44Chris Black:It's a W for me mentally. I think I'm going to be able to be happy once it's done. once all the press junkety tour stuff like once that's over i think i could probably actually enjoy it i enjoy this i enjoy talking to you guys yeah well we're few and far between

37:02Jason Stewart:you really are but like like any good thing you know huge whatever a marriage or a divorce or a move or a release or whatever you know a lot a lot of work and as soon as you're on the other side of it then you that's when you can enjoy it totally yeah well yeah i know you have no

37:17Chris Black:problem celebrating so at least we're in that phase yeah no we're gonna we're gonna i'm gonna try to be present and enjoy and celebrate and do you think this is gonna sort of close a chapter

37:27Lukas Gage:like are you think that some of this stuff like the divorce and all the shit that was so public will kind of like ride off into the sunset a little bit like this is the final word in some

37:35Chris Black:ways i hope so i feel like i'm just like i'm like how much more can i fucking talk about that in the fucking viral video i feel like i just kind of put it all out there i forgot about the viral video

37:46Lukas Gage:Oh, shit. I know.

37:48Chris Black:I'm like, I just gave them, I gave both of those things a whole chapter so I could probably just stop talking about it. And I feel annoying talking about it too because, you know, people want to bring it up again in these press things. And I'm like, I get it. Like, I don't know why I'm talking about it two years later about my, like, three-month marriage. Like, it's not, it's getting old. I got to get some new stories.

38:08Lukas Gage:I think it's, yeah, but I think that if people don't know you and know that you contain multitudes of way worse and more interesting, shit than that yeah that they're gonna focus on what they know thank you for saying that but we hear we know that if we crack that egg it's nasty in there we there's better stuff for us to mine

38:26Chris Black:there's way better stuff my favorite critique is like the wedding and the viral video are the least interesting chapters compared to everything else i'm like i love that that's a fucking amazing compliment i'm yeah that's good yeah that's good feedback it's great and also you know even though

38:41Jason Stewart:you're a young person you're writing about things that you did you know 20 years ago and enough time has passed where yeah you could be writing about you know cybering on the sims as a kid and now like you know y2k sims is like back in in in vogue and maybe the sims movie is getting cast and oh this guy has a history with it and boom and now you're doing voiceover at the sims

39:05Chris Black:now you got a new house with a pool you know the sims movie is a great idea fuck poly pocket let's

39:11Jason Stewart:do the sims movie yeah the sims has legs yeah were you what were you doing up on the sims were

39:16Chris Black:you cybering host oh i was doing the sims online version um i don't know there was like an expansion where you could like your family were like real people online don't say expansion pack that

39:26Lukas Gage:sounded too expert expert level that sounded too you're not a nerd yeah yeah fuck that okay

39:31Jason Stewart:it was it was a different version you're too hot for expansion packs you should only be doing the stock version. Yeah, you're too hot for expensive.

39:39Lukas Gage:Come on, bro. So you're, because I think that I'm always tackling early internet in my mind because that was a big, Jason and I are older than you, but that was like a huge part of our sort of adolescence and upbringing. Not only taking 30 minutes to see a single titty, the download speeds, but also... Lime wiring for some titties. Yeah, but I mean, I literally was thinking about LimeWire today. Like I would just leave that shit running. Oh, me too. It was just 24 hours a day downloading constantly.

40:10Chris Black:No, me too. I was talking about Faces of Death on LimeWire and all these things that the editors wanted me to cut down on. And the only one that they really loved were me having cyber sex with strangers online on Sims were the ones that were allowed to stay.

40:29Lukas Gage:They're like Faces of Death. But it's crazy that Faces of Death is just regular everyday shit now.

40:34Chris Black:No, I know. It's YouTube. It's literally YouTube. For some people. I think there was a meatspin.com joke that stayed in the book. I'm sorry. What was that one? You remember meatspin.com? meatspin.com.

40:48Jason Stewart:Is that like the Al Pastor? I'm a foodie. I don't know how that... Let me get my big knife out.

40:55Chris Black:meatspin.com is like what you would send to your friends and be like, oh my god, check out this website. And it's just a guy fucking riding a dick with his dick spinning around and around. Oh, a prank site, if you will. Yes, it's a prank site. Okay.

41:11Jason Stewart:The early version of sending the big naked guy with the giant dick. Oops. Oh, wow.

41:18Lukas Gage:I've never heard of that one. Okay. Is it still available? Just if I wanted to prank my friend Jason?

41:23Jason Stewart:Just Google Meat Spin. I'm sure you could find a gif. I ain't Googling Meat Spin. No, don't trick me. I'm not stupid. It's like rotisserie. It's nice. I wanted to talk about pools. You had a line in the book saying growing up living in SoCal in multiple houses with no pools was more upsetting than your parents' divorce. And having grown up in Orange County as somebody who did not grow up with a lot of money or a pool, but around a lot of people who had monies and pools, I understand that feeling. So do you feel like you're going to have a special full circle life moment once you own a pool?

42:06Chris Black:Or is that even a goal of yours? No, it definitely is a goal. I bought a townhouse this year and I hate it. And I'm like, I don't know why I did it.

42:14Lukas Gage:Did you feel pressure from a business manager to make an investment?

42:18Chris Black:I sure did.

42:20Jason Stewart:Is it in the Hollywood area?

42:23Chris Black:it's like in the worst part of Hollywood like on Sunset Boulevard with no backyard I love it but I'm ready to get rid of it and I went to a psychic who told me he said I walked into this psychic and he was like you just bought a house no pool, no backyard you need one and I was like I actually do that is so true that's an LA psychic I didn't know that my wife was a psychic holy shit there's this LA psychic in Beverly Hills that many people go to. And he kind of says the same thing to all of us. He tells us all to check our prostate. Wow, that's classic advice. I think he has a deal. I think he has some kind of scheme with a prostate doctor that he's like, I'm going to refer people.

43:08Lukas Gage:So you're saying the psychic and the urologist are in cahoots.

43:11Chris Black:Yeah, they're in cahoots.

43:12Jason Stewart:My prostate stays checked, mama.

43:15Chris Black:Yeah, it stays.

43:16Jason Stewart:Okay, so now that you've reached an age where you're like, I could sell the Hollywood townhouse that's right in the mix. Yeah. I don't need to be able to walk to Pink Taco, and I could go over the hill. It's literally down the street from Pink Taco, too. I don't know how you knew that.

43:36Lukas Gage:He's like, bro, Remedy Place is right there. It's a sick cold plunge. It's actually really convenient.

43:40Jason Stewart:I'm a Cali guy. I'm a Cali guy. You know? But you could take that money, bop over the hill to Studio City or wherever, and get a little suburban home with a pool.

43:52Lukas Gage:I better not see your ass walk in with a big bundle of flowers and vintage jeans outside of Jones on 3rd. Do not do that. That position's already filled, okay? We don't need another one. Only room for one, brother. So where would you go, though, if it was up? Jason's saying if you're ready to leave the confines of Hollywood.

44:09Jason Stewart:Have you considered Glendale?

44:10Lukas Gage:Where could an actor like you go?

44:12Chris Black:I mean, this doesn't help my pool problem because pools were very important to me as a kid. any kind of source of water was very important to me but now i'm like do i just say fuck la and

44:23Lukas Gage:move to new york do i do it that's the only answer and that that also takes the pool out of the equation completely it's impossible it's impossible you guys have community pools here you guys have soho house yeah yeah it's called no there yeah the soho house pool is more of a hot tub um and i don't mean that it's not actually the water to jizz ratio is in line with le bong it's worse than your shower right now at that fucking oh my god it's bad it's yeah it's bad but the i would say that a pool in new york yeah there are there is i remember there's a public pool deep lower east side that people would go to but this is quite a long time ago i think that it's so out of the question to have a pool in manhattan especially that you can free yourself from the chains that you don't need this anymore leave the chlorine in california it's like

45:10Jason Stewart:getting a vasectomy for your pool desire it's just not there kill it kill it okay i might do

45:15Chris Black:that i'm having fun here i'm really liking it well it's the it's the greatest city in the world and i

45:19Jason Stewart:think that also winter is coming though brother winter is coming ain't no fun no more that's true

45:24Lukas Gage:but i feel like hollywood's been decentralized because of the the kind of rut that la is in at least like hollywood wise you know there's nothing there you could go wherever now it

45:35Chris Black:doesn't matter it doesn't matter i could you know a lot of people are doing the whole texas thing the whole nashville thing i don't know i don't know i feel like i kind of just want to go back to renting out my shitty studio apartment and just going from place to place that was a better

45:50Lukas Gage:there's some there's some the problem is the pressures from the powers that be to own something yeah are too great to resist especially if you have the bread right powers that be meaning a wife or a business manager you only have one of those and i think that it's it's not it doesn't makes everyone feel as good you know what i mean it's like some people really want that and i think Some people generally don't care, but it feels like you have to do it to be an adult.

46:15Chris Black:No, it does. And I'm kind of against that. I kind of just want to rent and just make anytime something breaks, make somebody else worry about it. I don't know why I've spent so much money on a fucking sewer.

46:26Jason Stewart:You don't want to be the landlord of a bop house. You want to pay the landlord of a bop house. That's exactly right. You fix it. You do it. I can't.

46:36Lukas Gage:I don't know how to do it.

46:38Jason Stewart:I can't. um i had a question yeah that i just random that randomly popped in my head reading a bug do you ever feel that the people around you don't get your references did you not get a lot of the references no no no i got all the references but i mean i just mean in in in general in life like you being like a quirked up little freak yeah have you ever felt like growing up like i'm saying all this dope shit and everyone around me is like what are you talking about like i don't get it

47:07Chris Black:I feel like if they don't get it, they're not for me. It's like the people that are asking me that in the interview about the title of the book. I'm like, oh, you're going to hate this book. But I don't know. You're never going to win people over trying to win people over. You know what I mean? If people don't like what chair you're selling, they're going to hop on to the next chair in the store. Hop on. Okay, Havertys. Go off.

47:32Jason Stewart:So you fail fast with relationships. I have the same. Correct. I like, you know, I'm going to say something and you're either going to, it's a fork in the road. You're either with me or I'm going to know instantly if you're not fucking with the campaign and it makes it easier to just move on.

47:47Lukas Gage:Yeah. Well, Jason, when you're, when you're 40, you know, when you're touching 50 and you talk like a 23 year old, sometimes that turns people off. I'm saying that I'm saying that about myself as well. I'm saying that if I'm around my peer, if I'm around my peers age wise, but maybe they're not quite as logged on. Yeah. They're going to be like, what are these words that you're saying? Like, you're a dumbass, which I see both sides is what I'm saying.

48:11Jason Stewart:And then I get to say, oh, you don't know about all the cool stuff that I know about. You're lame. I don't have to talk to you anymore. And I could go hang out with the cool people that get all the things I'm saying.

48:22Lukas Gage:What I'm saying to you is cool is up to the user. Unfortunately, I wish there was a global understanding.

48:30Chris Black:I wish there was too. This was going to be one of my takes this morning on the subway thing. I was going to say one of my takes was dates are annoying or they're a waste of time. We should just have a five-minute FaceTime before we go on a date to just see.

48:45Lukas Gage:Well, luckily in your community, that's not even necessary. You can meet up behind a bush. I can get on the grounder. Get on snippies. You don't got to do that. You're right. I think that people are scared of dating. but I think that's something that the gay community once again, leaders have been like, you know what? Who needs a date?

49:06Jason Stewart:Would you rather have a five minute consultation over FaceTime or several detailed armpit photos?

49:15Chris Black:Fuck, probably like a mixture of both. I want to know right away if I'm going to fuck with that little pit and then I want a consultation before I go to Via Corotta for like a two hour spaghetti and realize that I fucking hate you the whole time.

49:29Lukas Gage:What if you're going to Via Corotta and it's someone you hate, but you don't have to pay? How much better does that make it? I'll sit through it.

49:35Chris Black:I'll sit through anything. For anything free, I'm like, throw me in there.

49:39Lukas Gage:Damn, you and Jason are the same. You guys have a lot of similarities. I like this. I love free shit.

49:43Jason Stewart:But I will laugh at your jokes.

49:45Lukas Gage:Yeah. I don't like the free stuff. The implications are too strong. The tether that they have on you is too great these days. What they want for it is not worth what they're offering. almost always yes i agree spoken like a true pay pig but i will take a free one still i don't know

50:04Chris Black:why i agree with what you're saying but i still will if it's free i'll go no i think that i think

50:08Lukas Gage:jason feels the same way i think he agrees with me but also it's like i don't care i'm gonna check

50:11Jason Stewart:it out yeah exactly scarcity mindset oh i suffer from that so bad scarcity mindset listen to you fucking bullshitters hey why i have to justify why i get the goldfish on the delta flights you Even though I'm not hungry, I don't need the 300 cows. No, you don't.

50:31Lukas Gage:None of us do.

50:33Jason Stewart:I was also thinking your name being Lucas and then changing to Lucas with a K about how at some point in your life, you may have been Luke Gage.

50:45Chris Black:Oh my god, I would be really fucked.

50:47Lukas Gage:Is Gage your real last name? No, it's my middle name. I had a feeling. It's too porn star.

50:52Jason Stewart:But it reminded me of Luke Combs And then how funny it would be If Luke Combs was named Lucas Combs It would just change the whole dynamic That sounds like one of Puffy's sons When you name him Lucas It's like adding a spoiler to your name When you go Lucas to Luke

51:07Lukas Gage:Who told you Not made you but who suggested

51:11Chris Black:That you change your name

51:13Jason Stewart:Psychic

51:13Chris Black:My psychic and Beverly Hills And some shit Crazy agent in the valley basically he said like i want to give you a porn star name or a superhero name and i was like i got you just take my middle name but he did also ask me something like do you have anything on your record blah blah blah and put in my head that basically like disney found out that you had any kind of things that they could look up that you could you could be fucked oh he's saying like

51:43Lukas Gage:if you change your name you're better off because a disney legal team can't search you on and find

51:49Chris Black:yeah yeah that's what he was saying i don't even know if that was true but i i you know i felt like i was having to just cover all my cover all my it's enough logic that makes sense you know yeah as a 19 year old i believe some fucking valley agent um why is now now as a person who works

52:07Lukas Gage:pretty often yeah why is every actor unhappy with their agent at all times no matter what level of

52:13Chris Black:success they are i feel like we all just ask what does anyone do constantly i have this with more with my manager where I'm like, I don't know why I give you 10%.

52:22Jason Stewart:And he's like, exactly.

52:24Chris Black:Yeah. Do you like the manager as a person? Yeah, I love her. I mean, she's like a crazy, cool Russian chick that talks to me off the ledge a lot. And maybe that's where the 10 % goes. I was about to say,

52:37Lukas Gage:I know you enough to know that you're on that ledge often. Your little ass needs to be managed. You need to be managed.

52:44Chris Black:You need it more than most people. I do, but sometimes I'm like, should I just... should I just have like a therapist do that for less money more often? Do you know what I mean?

52:53Lukas Gage:Yeah. No, I mean, I see, I just, I find that any, I feel like with musicians, when something goes wrong, they're blaming the booking agent or the manager or whoever, but with actors, they're just consistently unhappy no matter what.

53:05Chris Black:Yeah. We're always unhappy and we're always changing our team. I mean, I think I have like four managers on IMDB right now, and I don't know which one to ever call or talk to. I have like eight agents at Toby and me, and I only talked to one of them. I don't know. I don't know. That's sort of,

53:19Lukas Gage:I feel like that's sort of the name of the game though. It's like, whoever gets something across the line is the person you talk to. Everybody else, I don't need to talk to you. Exactly.

53:28Jason Stewart:And it's usually for smaller level talent, people that aren't, you know, Tom Cruise's and Jennifer Lawrence's of the world, we're just gonna sit on you in hopes that one day they're gonna call your number and then all of a sudden when it's time to negotiate the$20 million deal, now we're best friends, now we're buddies, now we're cooking, but until then, we're just gonna squat you. Yeah,

53:53Chris Black:basically.

53:53Jason Stewart:Squatting on that, Lucas. Love to get set on it. I'm fine with that. I feel like that's how it's gotta work. But there's no proactivity. It's all inbound. There's no outbound.

54:03Lukas Gage:Everybody can't win. And I also think that it's like, if you're a giant agency with all those fucking employees that need to pay their fucking BMW leases, you gotta just be like, I got 200 people, who do you want and if one of them it's like investing in startups yeah as long as one of them hits you're fine i'm not saying it's fair or how it should be but i get the business model yeah yeah i get it

54:25Chris Black:too i feel like just become best friends or good friends with one of your agents and then be really

54:31Lukas Gage:nice to the assistants that's the key when did when did the when did the agent when do you think in your career when do you think the agents answered the phone the fastest at what stage What stage did they answer? Was there a stage where they wouldn't answer it and then all of a sudden they would? I guess is what I'm getting at.

54:46Chris Black:I'm going to say right now with that prep money deal, they're suddenly calling me all the time. They're like, shit, that pharmaceutical money. We're going to stop ignoring his calls. We need this right now.

54:56Lukas Gage:So you're saying Big Pharma is your Disney. Big Pharma is your Warner Brothers.

55:01Jason Stewart:And also, it's the perfect crime because so many people you'll get shit on if you're doing a comedy festival in Saudi Arabia or doing a Pfizer ad or whatever, but you're saying like, oh, I'm sorry, is preventing an incurable autoimmune disease a bad thing? Sorry, I didn't realize how awful that was. I'm sorry, are you against miracles on life?

55:24Chris Black:I had one person on my team, one agent who won't be named out of the eight people who wrote back to the email when the offer came in like, do not do this. This will ruin your career. And I'm like, first of all, did you see how much money it is? Second of all, it's saving people's lives and you were okay with me doing a fucking tequila like that how was that you know like yeah this is a good thing this is good for people what are we doing it's one of the only good drugs out right now yeah yeah yeah yeah and you're gonna be on it soon both of you can you get me a promo code for

55:56Lukas Gage:prep can i enter the end of this interview i can enter luke i can i can enter lucas at checkout

56:01Chris Black:and get some free pills i have a website lucas.healthysexuals.com hook you up with some free bro.

56:08Lukas Gage:Dude. Honestly, I feel like if out of eight agents, there's one straight guy who doesn't know what prep is.

56:15Chris Black:No, he was the gay one, too.

56:17Lukas Gage:Oh, I get it. Well, you guys hate it. You guys hate it. We all hate it. Yeah, we hate it.

56:21Jason Stewart:I'm up on here. I'm up on Lucas.HealthySexuals.com, and I'm going to allow all the cookies, mama. Hell yeah. Yeah. Lucas likes to prioritize his well-being and help others do the same. I bet he does. I think this is all great. What is that?

56:36Lukas Gage:When does this drop? Is there like a campaign? There's imagery, I assume, to go along with this?

56:41Chris Black:Yeah, I think I did Press Junket Day where I just talked about prep for eight hours. And there's a bunch of shit that came out from that. And it's getting made fun of left and right with all my friends sending me these little clips. I mean, that's pretty good.

56:56Lukas Gage:I mean, it's pretty good material for the friends.

56:58Chris Black:It's pretty funny.

56:58Lukas Gage:It's pretty good. So what is the... Okay, so it's commercial? It's like commercials? Or is it Instagram stuff? Oh, it is. It's a commercial.

57:06Chris Black:One commercial thing, one Instagram thing. Yeah, it's like a mix.

57:10Lukas Gage:Because I always see the prep commercials, and they always try to fit that one straight couple in. But they're still sort of like non-binary vibes. It's not believable.

57:20Jason Stewart:I'm not getting those ads in my algorithm, Chris. What's up with that? No, it's on TV. It's on TV.

57:25Chris Black:It's on a lot. There's always like two gay couples. There's like an old gay couple, like an interracial gay couple, the like bisexual kind of thing going on. and then like you said that little in-between straight thing that you can't figure out. That's always what it is.

57:40Lukas Gage:They're covering the bases the best they can.

57:42Jason Stewart:You're kind of a little straight thing that we can't figure out, Lucas.

57:45Chris Black:What do you mean? Exactly. I think you would fuck a chick tonight. I said this in an interview and I pissed people off too. They were like how gay are you? And I was like what? I'm pretty fucking gay. I married a guy on TV. I don't know what to tell you but they're like I'm 10 % straight. What's further? Can I go? I'll dip my toes in. You're a healthy sexual. I'm a healthy sexual. I like titties.

58:08Lukas Gage:Yeah, you're a healthy sexual. I'm sure there's a few baddies out there that could, you know, one night with Lucas could happen if they played their cards right.

58:16Chris Black:Yeah, for sure. Girls love a gay guy.

58:19Lukas Gage:I've noticed that. They feel safe. Yeah, usually it's for friendship and fashion advice, but you're saying every once in a while things get crazy.

58:27Chris Black:Things get a little cuddly, a little snuggly.

58:31Jason Stewart:this totally is not going to affect our friendship

58:33Chris Black:I thought you guys were saying never mind I just have this dream in my head that like us three are going to like just run a train on each other one day okay I just feel like it could happen

58:44Jason Stewart:I had a feeling that's where you're going to go with that and that's not what I was saying at all does that line work on the other guys Lucas in the frat house I mean just in your day to day goings on

58:55Lukas Gage:how many times have you how many times have you flipped a straight guy like be honest don't give us a puffed up

59:01Chris Black:percentage no no i'm not gonna lie and say a bigger number than it is but i would say

59:06Lukas Gage:i would say a handful out of these out of these five straight guys how many of them you think yeah had another gay experience or they were just gay for lucas um i think probably two of them

59:18Chris Black:ended up being gay later on okay two of them were gfo l probably legitimately the first they weren't lying about me being their first experience and then one of them was fully full of shit and just did it for the story. Which I'm okay with. Yeah, of course.

59:36Jason Stewart:Because we've been on both sides of doing it for the story, right? All three of us train runners.

59:42Chris Black:Yeah. Oh, I'm such a liar. I get it.

59:44Jason Stewart:A little touche, a game-recognized game. But out of all these people, 100 % of them are HIV-free. Thanks to our good friends at PrEP.

59:55Lukas Gage:I love you plugging it like that. Bringing it all back to PrEP. Jason, that's a great point. Thank you for saying that.

1:00:03Jason Stewart:I'm just trying to get some of that pharma money as well. Daddy needs a pool too.

1:00:07Chris Black:I got you. We'll get you on there.

1:00:09Jason Stewart:Did we do the top five prescription drugs when you were on the first time? I feel like we may have. Top five? No, I don't think we did. Did we not do that? Top five that I've ever taken? I know that you've done pretty much every drug at some point in your life. My man. Not now. You're clean AF.

1:00:29Chris Black:Are you sober? No, I dabble with... I'm like a ketamine and Diet Coke kind of girl. Got it. I didn't think so, but I can never be sure.

1:00:39Lukas Gage:People are fluid.

1:00:40Chris Black:But only for therapeutic purposes, right? Therapeutic purposes and mushrooms. Everything else I'm kind of off of and not into anymore. I got it out of my system quite early. But I have tried every pharmaceutical drug prescribed to me in my manic days. I can tell you the top five of those.

1:01:00Jason Stewart:Yeah, it can be recreational or not. It can be just regular old beneficial. But yeah, let's go. I mean, Prozac did me good. She was good to me.

1:01:11Lukas Gage:For some reason, Prozac feels like a guy, but I like you gendering Prozac a woman.

1:01:16Jason Stewart:She was good to me.

1:01:17Lukas Gage:Prozac-a.

1:01:20Jason Stewart:Prozaciana.

1:01:21Chris Black:Prozaciana, she was sick. She made me feel good and light. A savage little pill. A savage little girly. um was not a fan of zolofta that made me manic i was not well did either one affect weight oh i got so fat on trintelix i gained like 40 pounds if you watch love victor i was a thicker than a snicker trintelix i ain't never heard of trinta what is that is that an intellect ssri it's an antidepressant yeah it's an ssri or an ssnri snri whatever the newer one is and um basically it has something in it that that told me it's a newer drug that makes you like it helps your cognitive abilities so it can make you smarter um i was really into that when the

1:02:06Lukas Gage:you're like i'd rather be hotter than smarter please take this away yeah yeah after that i was like give me the adderall immediately 40 pounds is i mean that's a lot from just taking

1:02:16Chris Black:i would say probably like third around 30 pounds i was like 150 and i went to like 180 on that yeah It was a lot.

1:02:25Lukas Gage:So that was not in the top five. It's honestly crazy.

1:02:27Chris Black:It's crazy how some of these things can affect your body. It blows my mind. It affects your metabolism, too, because I feel like I wasn't eating that crazy. I wasn't like I was. Maybe I was. I don't know. That one's pretty good. I liked... Well, Buterin was good, but it kind of gave me panic attacks. Lamictal, helpful-ish. Made me a little bit of a zombie, too, though. Is that another... That's an antipsychotic, I think. Sorry, it's a mood stabilizer.

1:02:56Jason Stewart:Lamictal, a mood stabilizer. Okay. Yeah. For bipolar disorder. You got some good insurance, Chief.

1:03:03Lukas Gage:Yeah, I do. I know a couple of motherfuckers who need some of that. So nowadays, because you seem pretty level, are you medicated or are you sort of like you've just figured it out maybe?

1:03:13Chris Black:um i did the whole ketamine therapeutic thing where i was getting off of all the pills and and um you know did a couple rounds of that and then now i'm on like a super low dose ssri like i kind of i'm like not even kidding i'm taking halves and then i take like um a half of a fourth of like a mood stabilizer and like a fourth of a

1:03:37Lukas Gage:or one gabapentin like i just you sound like me when i'm trying to conserve oxycontin in 2012

1:03:42Chris Black:12 i don't i like i think i'm very sensitive is what i found out that like i definitely need something because i'm i'm a freak and uh i need something to chill me out a little bit and make me not you know go into these these states uh the highs are so high and the lows are so low but i think the problem is i i went through a phase where i talked about in the book where like they gave me so many they gave me a cocktail of things and i just straightened my hair and wore for a

1:04:12Lukas Gage:jackets and marry a stranger so like you're like you know what maybe i'll try the ketamine it can't be worse results than than the cocktail of pills i mean i think it's a really i think when you really need them it's a hard thing to figure out because the side effects seem to be all over the map yeah and like the generic versus the real brand versus the dosage it's just so many it's it's really like a math equation to get it right and find out what works for you yeah and everyone's

1:04:36Chris Black:you know body chemistry is different and reacts to things yeah it's very uh it's very bespoke thing. You feel good now. I feel really good. My voice went up an octave. I feel really good.

1:04:51Jason Stewart:No, it's fine.

1:04:52Chris Black:I do feel good. I feel content. I don't know. I don't love myself. It feels tough. Of course not.

1:05:01Lukas Gage:Anybody that loves themselves is a narc and a liar. You've got to hate yourself a little bit to be good at anything.

1:05:07Chris Black:Fuck off.

1:05:08Jason Stewart:I think we have one or two more pills left. um one or two more pills um what other ones got any fun ones any ones that you can do and for

1:05:19Chris Black:recreational use i mean like a xanax on an airplane is great an ambient on an airplane is great except for when you don't pass out and then you're awake the whole flight to london

1:05:29Lukas Gage:on an ambient well the first of all the the rule is you don't take a sleeping pill on a plane until the plane is off the ground yeah that's the number one some say 10 000 feet i mean that's fine too but I think people get aggressive and they get comfortable in their little seat. I know Lucas is in 3A. He's got his feet kicked up. He already pre-ordered the sundae, and his ass pops one. That plane's got a mechanical issue.

1:05:53Jason Stewart:I want that Mezzaluna. Is that bad? And then they turn that plane around.

1:05:59Lukas Gage:Yeah, that's tough. Also, the flight, well, I guess from LA, the flight to London is long enough. The flight from New York to London is so short that it's almost – Yeah, that's six hours. yeah it's like two it's difficult to really feel good no matter what you know yeah no i like a

1:06:12Chris Black:little nyquil a little nyquil and like a glass of red wine is the perfect cocktail to just pass right now he said he said over the counter bitch over the counter core seeding baby because when

1:06:22Jason Stewart:you didn't you say when your your first head changes were you would just like hit the whole

1:06:28Chris Black:pack of core seeding yeah core seeding they had a uh certain formula back in the day that they changed now because too many kids were getting high off of it but that was my that was my

1:06:39Lukas Gage:introduction to to drugs this is you're saying we we called that robo tripping is that yeah where you would just drink the whole bottle it's the same yeah you just drink the whole yeah this was

1:06:48Chris Black:like these were capsules but i think it's the same thing and we just would take the whole sleeve of

1:06:53Jason Stewart:like 12 course lucas is so young that it was little capsules that did feel that did feel

1:06:58Chris Black:pointed that correction sorry i didn't mean it like that i just maybe it wasn't as popular in San Diego. No, no, no.

1:07:04Lukas Gage:No, honey. They were just capsules. God, imagine being able to get high that easily. What a fucking gift. What a time. What a gift.

1:07:12Chris Black:I miss those days. Me too, chief. Me too. Take me back to 2007, baby. Take me back.

1:07:22Jason Stewart:So we're almost done filming this film. Is that correct?

1:07:27Chris Black:Yeah, I'm almost done. I'm almost done. Got to do a little tour and then I'm going to come back here for another movie. he's booked and busy he's trying to get that pool in the backyard

1:07:38Lukas Gage:but how come these movies don't pay anything can you do a movie that pays

1:07:41Chris Black:nobody has money anymore is it TV is that where the money is at TV has money, TV is where it's at I have a show, I did Prison Break the reboot we're about to get picked up

1:07:55Lukas Gage:is the hot guy in it still? the guy that everybody loved amazing hairline on that guy One of the greatest hairlines to ever grace. So hot. Television. Him and Kyle XY. Fuck. Isn't he gay? Yeah. That's so cool that he's gay. Wentworth Miller. Yeah. He looks like little Mikey. I know. But it was one of those things where everybody thought he was gay. And then when he was, it was like, bro, you delivered on the promise. Thank God. Thank God. Damn, he's 53. Still hot as fuck. I mean, I was probably in high school. Wenty. Yeah. I bet when that show was big. All right. So what are you playing in the Prison Break reboot?

1:08:30Chris Black:down low trade not dropping the soap on this one i'm i'm not in the prison i'm i'm you'll see yo i'm i'm working for uh i'm working for i'm running for congress in the show and i'm hold on hold on

1:08:44Lukas Gage:you expect me you expect me to believe your ass is a congressman i'm a young congressman a young

1:08:49Chris Black:senator and but you're you're you're right wing right fuck yeah i am okay so you're you're a dope

1:08:56Lukas Gage:little congressman but you have the red tie on just let him know you got the red you got the

1:09:01Jason Stewart:red geek bar in your pocket because yeah i'm young and i'm different exactly all right so you play you

1:09:07Lukas Gage:play a young congressman yeah he's running for the first time okay um where is this where is this base

1:09:13Chris Black:like what what state city we filmed in west virginia the craziest i'm a fucking 12 in west virginian let me tell you i have never we know i do declare yeah you gotta go kevin spacey mode

1:09:28Jason Stewart:i know i need to i did watch some house yeah is grinder illegal in in west virginia i feel like they would firewall that shit i don't know i i can't i'm not gonna lie to you he didn't have to

1:09:39Lukas Gage:do that he just had to go to the sit go and smile and they came fucking running it was like cockroaches with some sugar water that's that is sugar water i think you playing uh young congressman i can see it when the suit is on i can see it but what it's on they got a little

1:09:56Chris Black:accent on there i'm flirting with margo martindale okay it's good okay i like this and and margo

1:10:01Lukas Gage:martindale did you have to learn policy and any sort of kind of political how how deep in the

1:10:07Chris Black:weeds did you have to get on local policy how deep did i get um you know i i had to i had to get a little familiar i didn't really know a lot of what i was talking about when i first read the script so i had to do a little homework that's fine you know not too much it's first one he's trying to follow in his daddy's footsteps so he's kind of yeah you know he's he's also a little clueless himself the character is also he's a little he's in over his head yeah he's definitely yeah and when does that come out we find out if we're getting picked up this month uh who's the star who's the star who's like the main the lead do you remember emily browning from uh sucker punch baby doll no no maybe she's iconic she's so oh yeah she's cute she's super cute so talented so oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so we kind of changed the story a bit and it's not so focused on the brothers and it's it's from a different point of view the the showrunner uh elgin james went to prison recently or went to prison for a couple years after he did mayans uh or before i I can't remember.

1:11:09Lukas Gage:To research for the show?

1:11:12Chris Black:To research for the show. She's going method. Exactly. He said, let me lock myself up for a bit and come back to TV. I still maintain I could do a year and come out better. You think so? My stepdad went for a year, and he lost like 50 pounds and loved it.

1:11:26Lukas Gage:Minimum security? Yeah. Was it white collar? What did he do? Yeah, it was like tax fraud. If you do a year for tax stuff, minimum security in Connecticut, I'm coming out ripped. I'm going to do 100 pull-ups. I'm going to read the Bible I'm going to be ready to go

1:11:41Jason Stewart:you got the Quran memorized oh easy Quran's first three months have that down have that down and record an album okay Lucas well thank you for taking the time to chat with us I wrote this for attention is the book it comes out in a week or something right

1:11:57Chris Black:14 comes out in like three days yeah four days and you read the audio book yeah I read the audio book if you hate reading just fucking listen to it and I know it's annoying if you're listening to it a couple days really to pre-order i'll never pre-order a tv show or a movie it's very annoying you gotta pre-order a book that's gotta support authors gotta support me guys come on and lucas doesn't

1:12:16Lukas Gage:give a fuck he said do it at amazon i don't care where you do it you hate if you hate i don't give

1:12:20Chris Black:a fuck hey bezos do it on fucking bookshop do it on any wherever you want to do it just help help a girl out kindle it ebook it it's cheaper whatever i i think that i i it's so strange

1:12:30Lukas Gage:though that the publishing is i mean i guess the pre-save culture and music is pretty big but it

1:12:36Chris Black:feels different to me it doesn't feel as as important no i know it doesn't it really doesn't

1:12:41Lukas Gage:so go go pre-order the book um support lucas so you can get a pool when's your book coming out no good good question talk about that i mean i'm literally in florida alone working on it right now i've got a pile worst thing ever i got a pile of fucking paper i got a highlight tonight uh yeah

1:12:57Chris Black:it's a nightmare don't ever do this don't ever i will never do this actually i'll take that back I'll maybe do it again, but in 10 years.

1:13:05Lukas Gage:If the money's right and the career goes well.

1:13:09Chris Black:If it makes any list, maybe I'll do a part two.

1:13:11Lukas Gage:No, you're coming in. McNally Jackson, it's going to be you, McNally, Ronson. You're at the top week one. Really? Yeah. I don't know. I have the same day as Kid Cudi, which I'm like, I'm fucked. Kid Cudi can't read or write, so you're fine. I think you're fine.

1:13:26Chris Black:I think you're fine. I can barely read.

1:13:29Jason Stewart:What's the biggest

1:13:30Chris Black:piece of press that you're going to do for this i'm really excited to do the i'm do the stuff with julia fox because i just i loved down the drain and and i sent her the book and to get her to agree to do the strand and do a couple other things for me to promote it is really exciting are you got were you guys friendly before or is this we were friendly and uh not as friendly after i crawled under her at addison ray uh no uh you were friendly enough to you were friendly enough to ask friendly enough to ask but then she's been fucking amazing on this and so helpful and uh her book is so good so we're getting tighter getting tighter with julia i'll see you guys

1:14:09Lukas Gage:on tuesday i wish i was there i'm gonna be i'm still gonna be sequestered but see you jason

1:14:13Chris Black:i will i will be there it's okay i saw chris like three times so i gotta make up for i gotta give

1:14:18Lukas Gage:jason a little love too i noticed i noticed you were wearing your j crew jacket at the s and ray

1:14:22Chris Black:show it's nice did you notice that i wore my fucking outfit well it had your it has your

1:14:26Lukas Gage:initials in the back so it lets people know you're walking away from them which is a nice touch I think.

1:14:31Chris Black:Sitting next to you and Martha Stewart at that party was one of the highlights of my life.

1:14:36Lukas Gage:Yeah it was a highlight of my life as well and I don't think Martha cared for me much.

1:14:43Jason Stewart:Do you and Martha still talk Lucas?

1:14:45Lukas Gage:We talked.

1:14:46Chris Black:We had a nice talk.

1:14:47Lukas Gage:She was like She's a pro. She's a fucking pro. Is she team follow back? She talked to me and I you know I'm not even gay. She looked hot. She looked hot. I know. She's hot. She looked fucking hot. I don't know when she... I feel like she doesn't really interface with straight guys very often, unless they're like security guards. So I felt blessed.

1:15:06Chris Black:But you're like straight adjacent, kind of.

1:15:09Lukas Gage:Even her groundskeepers are good. The groundskeepers are shirts off, but gay. Oh, for sure. For sure. For sure. All right, Lucas. Thank you, guys. Go pre-order the book. Get the book. Good to see you, bro. Congratulations. Love you, guys. Best podcast. We'll see you soon. Thank you. Love you, bro.

1:15:22Jason Stewart:I'll see you on Tuesday. Yep.

1:15:23Chris Black:Join me. Join me. Join me. Join me. Sugar to my heart. I'm craving for you. I'm missing you like candy. Give it to me.

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