859. - Tame Impala

37:05Yeah, whatever's lying around. Where's Kevin's cup? I didn't know if you had a Yeti with the logo on it or something. I do love a red I do love a red college, whatever it is, cup. We've also got these ones that look like disposable plastic ones, but they're actually like a real cup. Yeah. We're trying to be, you know. Yes, sustainable. You can get those at Urban Outfitters still. I remember when they released the red solo cups that had a little strip of chalkboard on them and you could write your name with your finger. And I feel like the technology wasn't there yet, but maybe now they could read.

37:40Maybe they're still out there. I love that. It didn't work well enough. We can work that into the show. It's fun. Write the name of the city on it. That's kind of cool. Reminds you so you don't fuck up. I'll need that. I hope to do that one day. It hasn't happened yet. Do you think that now we're talking about you know being a special citizen and uh having specialized talents and not any other things do you feel like now at your life in your age with with child do you feel like you're a full-grown adult now i feel like i'm full-grown yeah but you know like you're not gonna get any taller yeah yeah on a purely physical level yes anything other than that unfortunately no um no yeah no no i don't well you're in the wrong business you don't have the that's the problem is that you guys can do whatever kind of forever and there's no real penalties for exactly yeah but i but i i i mean i probably thought of this question while i was listening to your album you know stoned or something and i was like you know there's there's wisdom coming through and subject matter and you know musically and lyrically and like i said you have a kid are you you're 40 now probably something like that right uh 39 i'm not 40 39 ticking the days away relax relax damn put put the gun down sorry sorry gun down you're in your early 30s and despite that you've you've completed so much but you're 22 and this album is amazing and you just it sounds like you've reached like a a mental maturity and like an adulthood that you that i didn't hear before and i was proud of you but then you said you watch family guy and then it all went downhill after that yeah undid so much it undid some people really people really liked that oh yeah yeah i saw a couple memes that was pretty good um well you know you like you throw paint at the walls and see what's it you know it's like that that line just sort of like it just came and i just didn't fight it you know i'm glad you didn't you know what the thing i will say about the about being a you know successful musician is that the music industry is a world where they don't want you to grow up you know it's like you are encouraged it's like that peter pan thing they want you to be they want you to be irresponsible they want you to be i want to be bad yeah bro do something bad do something fucked up you're too clean yeah you ain't done nothing bad that i can think of i'm sure you could think of a few things but i can't think of it i can't think of anything yeah so it's um yeah it's so that's quite it's quite a carrot to dangle uh in front of someone like me it's like it's like you can be a piece of shit forever it's like okay well don't mind if i do yeah the nicer and and more responsible you get that will affect album sales negatively so if you could you know get arrested every 18 months exactly the wheels turning they don't want they say they don't want you to get arrested but they want you to get arrested they definitely want you to get arrested yeah super bad if that happened well i guess clothing wise we were talking about that before do you feel like there's a a sartorial maturity going on now um what does that word mean exactly or are you happy that flip-flops are are cool and you can wear them with suits uh yeah i mean honestly honestly that was like one of the most like the first like the most immediate uh benefit that i realized to calling an album deadbeat is that you get to wear flip-flops just the whole time um i used to feel quite out of place in like cool la parties because i'm wearing flip-flops and everyone else has got like like amazing loafers on and stuff and um those are amazing loafers i i just sort of like trained myself to sort of dress better you know um and now it's kind of like i can just celebrate that yeah now now as long as your pants are 1200 you can wear whatever flip-flops you want everything's okay yeah no big deal at all yeah something like that okay well speaking speaking of deadbeat there there was a line that says uh it won't make a difference you can lie all of your life and that one i was like damn this is a deadbeat bar right there that's the deadbeat anthem shit right there it's actually you can lie all you like god damn it well is there time to is we could still change it right okay you could lie all you like so you were you were telling somebody that versus talking about yourself though yeah it's basically that's saying um you can try and um and and convince me to be part of your world and it won't you can um like it's basically like i'm always going to be me i'm always going to i'm always going to be like this um so you can try i've tried that one a few times myself it hasn't gone that well for me yeah yeah you can pretend to be nice to me or you can say these things but i'm not going to believe you it's it's not going to make a difference i'm still i'm still just going to be like this okay okay that's what that's saying yeah well just on the on the genius.com website it says life not like oh is that popping off yeah we're already popping off there's already lyrics that are in bold to let you know that these are the key bars okay yeah i've always wondered about is that is that groupthink voting on the key bars or are they just sort of moderators that can be like, this is my shit right here, these two lines?

43:11I have no idea. I assume it's just anyone who wants to jump in there can jump in. I assume it was like a Wikipedia situation. Because I think people will Google a verse or like a sentence from a song, and I think maybe those, or either that, or there's like an editor, like a moderator being like, this is a fire-ass bar where I'm going to put it in bold. Yeah, but whether it's an official moderator or just some dude on the internet, both of them aren't me. So they have absolutely no authority on what a song is about. No, but they can't. Look, these motherfuckers speculate and keep the lights on over at the Parker estate, though.

43:53Yeah, but we all know that once you put out the record, it's not yours anymore. and now people are saying this room is in in shambles but i think it's fine to you it's untidy maybe to me it's divine and there's a lot of messy motherfuckers listening to that but like though that that this shit is about me this guy is speaking through me can i what are they saying on that song are they saying that's about um because i've seen two theories on that song on peace of heaven that one that it's about my daughter and one that it's about like a love interest or whatever all that one is about a girlfriend okay the annotation for that particular line kevin parker is known for his obsession for music and his house proves that with loose wires flooding the floor leading to hundreds of digital instruments in every chamber of his home to others kevin's house may appear messy and untidy but to kevin it's his musical paradise they don't give they don't give a fuck about your wife they don't give a fuck about your daughter they said this This motherfucker got wires all over his crib.

44:52He's wired up. Hang on a second. The song clearly says your bedroom. It's not my bedroom. Bro, stop acting like these people are listening that hard. They're just having fun, man. They're just vibing to your music, man. Just relax. This is why I don't go on Genius.com. I feel like at one point, when it first came out, that shit was truly revolutionary. It was unbelievable, kind of. Even if I didn't believe what they were saying, I was stunned that it existed. Yeah. But there's too much stuff like that now where everybody's an expert. Well, that's it. That's it. Everyone has an opinion, which is great.

45:33No, it's great. But that's all it is. It's your opinion. They're not always correct. The best part about rapgenius.com is the two white boys who founded it went to therapy together because they couldn't get along and they were making so much money. And there was a New York Times story about them going to business therapy together. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's it. And I was like, damn, these guys are kind of, no pun intended, geniuses. They know that the bread is the bottom line. We got to work this shit out. That's how you're going to be successful. Hopefully that comes to us one day, Chris. Oh, my God.

46:04Imagine. Okay, well, speaking of calling Genius.com rap genius, I feel like your lyrical cadence and flow is entering a little bit of a rappy zone in a great way. There was a line, and I was like, this is something that Drake could say, and it would work great in a Drake song. Okay. Where you say, man, it's a crisis. I'm never like this. That's how my life is. You couldn't write this. oh that damn that is oh yeah okay drink bar it's a drink bar i'm sure you got 40 cell phone we can get some underwater beat that you kind of just go over that's nice that is nice that is nice all right ovo all right ovo kevin ovo kevin in the building thanks guys i'm just gonna there's lots to unpack there but uh i'm just gonna say thank you that's a good that's a nice way to handle it anytime anybody says anything to me i mean that clears it up like i said before completely complimentary but i don't know just is this something that you have noticed at all where you know your beautiful singing and lyricism has taken a little bit of a different cadence or flow or is that just me um yeah sure i mean they're meant to be like you know the the lyrics on the the vocals in this album are meant to be a lot more direct and and and sort of like um sharp you know a lot of the time but man you know what like i i saw this amazing thing the other day you know when the taylor swift album came out and everyone hated it everyone's saying how trash it was yeah i don't remember that at all i don't remember that at all well okay i heard okay some rumblings well you know it's like the the instagram the uh the internet um you know court of public opinion or whatever i don't necessarily i don't necessarily well i definitely don't agree with the you know whatever um someone made a video where they turned her lyrics into an mf doom verse and this is the worst thing i've ever heard in my life no let me finish just wait until he says it actually worked it's like it's like they've seen they've used ai or whatever for like mf doom to wrap out her lyrics and they sound award-winning i kid you not i kid you not with the whole the whole purpose of the of the like the video they made was to show how like lyrics in a different light can seem um better or worse which which to which to me proves it proves the context is everything and i firmly believe that people were ready to hate that album that taylor swift album when it came out they were they had their artillery already like in place guns in position however you're ready to receive lyrics or art or whatever is how it's going to happen doesn't matter how good or bad it is if people are so context is everything uh i encourage you to check that video out it's kind of it's kind of insane i'm busy i'm busy watching my martin luther king as a professional wrestler video so i'm sorry i'll get back to you when i'm kind of done examining that but i see where your head and i'm gonna listen to that as soon as i finish watching the video that one of our listeners will make where they turn that sentence into a drake song and then we're gonna be like by golly it's what was the one that everybody was talking about it was like 50 it was a 50 cent song they turned into sort of like uh oh there's like there are thousands there are thousands it was like a jazzy kind of no but that for whatever reason the 50 cent one was all people talked about for like three days it was like a thing i think it was because someone like rogan or someone was like it's actually amazing you know i think people really started loving it jazzy hip-hop really gets old guys i don't i don't want anything to do with mf doom anywhere near me so i'm gonna skip that one well it's a thing i mean similar i think about it all the time where i'm listening to a song from an artist and they're not that big you know they're doing okay but not huge and i and i think if this person instead just gave this song to the weekend they would be they would have a yacht but they have it for themselves and they're selling you know 400 cap venues and they're doing okay it's all good but you give it some songs away like you said in the right context boom you got to give some songs sometimes you got to give it away sometimes you got to give it to do a to get that yacht right yeah yeah man you're speaking you're speaking my language i guess though when you when you write no that's like what that's like the other thing i do right yeah that's that's why we're talking about it of course that's why you're talking to us it ain't your little music it's all this other shit you've done but what is the what is the when you do something for another artist that is almost always like the intention that was set at the beginning or is it really like i got this shit and it's good but i think it'd be better if xyz took it and put sauce on it uh can be can be either it can be anything so you've pulled something off a hard drive and sold it not sold it it's not like i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not meeting meeting anyone in a car park, you know, with a fucking trench coat.

51:09That would be a lot cooler if you were, but it was a figure of speech. No, you're right. That would be really cool. Rihanna's like, I thought you said this shit was gas, bro. Yeah. It's fine. You're like, you know we don't give refunds. You know that's not how the game works. Yeah, sometimes. I mean, some artists are dead set on like, we meet in a room and we start something new. Don't bring your beats. you come from there's a people always joke about like um pretending that you came up with something like on the spot that's that's really oh wait like you you open up the the pro tool session you mute all the tracks and you just load them in one by one letting the beat build yeah look little nars i did a session with little nars x once he asked me if i do that he was like like you were like one of those guys who just like comes in and like pretends to write something in the room you know it's like it's like oh what about we go here i thought i thought that was hysterical he he's a hilarious person he's incredible that's actually but it's a really funny idea and i'm sure people do it all the time 100 they've got to as soon as you said that i was like oh because i've been tempted to do that before when someone's like let's just start something new no one no one bring any no one um no one play any beats they made it on it starts me new and it's like the temptation because it can be it's extremely demanding it's brutal brutally demanding to come up with something right there and then on cue you're in the room that a record label paid a lot of money for and they're like all right hit maker make me a hit exactly it's uh it can be nerve-wracking anyway so so yeah it's tempting to just sort of like have things pre-prepared so it's better when you're like what maybe this song would be better with like a guitar solo maybe something like this and you're like like yeah you know a perfect solo that you've been practicing in your bedroom for the last week yeah exactly what about this eight-part harmony i think that could work i got the perfect people to sing this they're actually right outside if you want to bring them in they're right they're here with us right now yeah bring them in i'll just have a look outside speaking of eight-part harmonies do you are there some easter egg sounds in this album hidden of course my music is 90 easter eggs where you got too many you got too many tracks fam i don't even know what's going on it's just there's a lot of you got a lot of shit going on that's right yeah and weirdly it's like it's like the the least amount of shit going on that i've ever you're saying this is the least amount of shit and it's still more than most people exactly yes i'm saying it's um you can't help yourself i can't help myself that's that's all it is that's all it is there's there's a lot more negative space on some of these songs on the new album i feel like it lets the lets the beat breathe definitely well the first thing you learn about making dance music is that uh or music that you can dance to is that um is that the drums need to breathe is that space needs to be there you need that dynamic range you got to get sucked in and out of the kick yeah that's it no i mean and it's i noticed it multiple times on the album where there'll be these you know kind of crescendo moments and beautiful harmonies and synths and vocals and things happening and it drops into the beat and it is just you know a kick and a snare and a couple little sounds hidden here and there that's it and it just sounds so nice you know it's just you know here's all this shit and like just here's a steak with some salt on it and you're like nothing better than this you know just a good that's it perfect drum sound open air yeah my um my uh analogy to that is like a margarita pizza yeah it's like sometimes you want a supreme sometimes you just what you want the lot and sometimes you just want you just want to sort of sprinkle a couple of things you know yeah yeah for our listeners at home he was doing the salt bay oh sometimes you just want to salt bay yeah i know yeah i mean that's that's what makes a great dance song you you hear a drum pattern and you know maybe a little percussion here maybe a simple bass line and those are those songs that last decades and it comes on and it never gets old and it's not like, oh, what if we sidechain the bass and do this?

55:14It's just, it just has to have the beat and that's it. That's it. All right, well, how many years away from you and just three guys in the room making a regular album are we? How far can we take this sort of Kevin meets minimalism? Like how far can we go? Are we going to get it like a Tame Impala replacements album? You know what I'm saying? Like how far are you willing to take this? as far as it wants to go i guess uh well you know like i the the way my um my uh what's the word my um twisted little mind my contrarian ass mind okay okay um always always wants to sort of like gel the steering wheel violently um as as soon as we're as soon as we're on like a good a good little a good little highway i have that thing of just sort of like wanting to yeah grab the wheel and violently turn it into the into the ditch yeah but when when you're on that good little highway and you're cooking and everything is all good for the outside world that's what they're thinking and in your mind you're like i have been listening to this song for the last three years and i it is i i want to get off this highway yeah exactly it's obvious it's a complex um range and yeah of emotions and thoughts and feelings but at the end of the day it's just uh it's following your heart you know namaste namaste brother i'm trying to say something genuine and sensitive there guys no i i believe you we won't really allow that kind of shit kevin sorry i believe you sound like me and my brother it's like just like as soon as there's a hint of something genuine it's like yeah like just like i guess namaste bro someone from from another room is going

57:05exactly that feels at home it's good yeah a little slice of hum uh the orchid instrument yeah have you seen this chris oh yeah i love the orchid instrument oh you got the orchid on you okay it doesn't look at it nuclear prototype oh that's nice oh this this is not a video podcast is it so it's not a video podcast here so much he went and made his own gear and i i appreciate basically i'm taking matters into my own hands yeah okay first question can i have one can you have one yeah of course of course i'm happy to pay for it of course but it seems like they're no no okay twist my arm kevin twist my arm you you you've dropped a few music production um terms already it sounds like you you know your stuff so talking about side changing i use ableton live to produce this podcast so i'm in there make him at least make him pay for shipping kevin we gotta keep him humble taxes shipping whatever we got so but for for people who don't know what this instrument is i think it's a genius idea and it kind of reminds me um like a couple years ago there's a big movement for people writing where they would get like little plastic kind of word processors or like digital things to where they can kind of like a dumb phone version of a keyboard so you can just make whatever you're doing without the distractions of looking at Twitter and everything else yeah it's it's basically just another way another another sort of like idea in how to write music how to write chords you know it's just sort of like it's like an idea that I had it's like what if we could write chords in this way a different kind of keyboard so it's a chord generator right it helps you uh so you know you know how you know what I was saying before about being in the room with an artist and then wanting something new and you've got to come up with something new right there and then or your or the or the or the session like it's a dead end that it was those situate those kind of situations that like spurred me on to um making the thing so it's a chord generator right so it's it just makes it a lot makes chords a lot more accessible um without having to sort of like you know you don't need the the the dexterity and remembering what all the notes are in each chord so you can play quite quite complex chords and they're it makes them easy to remember um it's like a more efficient way of writing and playing chords because like often it whether i'm in like a high pressure kind of like um pop writing scenario or it's just like two o 'clock in the morning and i'm kind of like a bit out of my head um you know okay so the same way keith richards would wake up in the morning in his bed and pick up his guitar and start writing down you know a new stone song you can roll out of bed and hit the c minor seventh into the a exactly and then next thing you know we have oh listen there you go uh it's like well it's actually great for playing in bed because you don't need to look you don't need to look at what you're doing you can kind of feel the buttons so I played in bed a lot it's always about feel for me so I get it so you can do like a Stevie Wonder kind of look around you're doing a Tom York head movement with your eyes closed you're able to intuitively hit the buttons and keys and create a new song that's it you get to finally live out your dream of being blind of being Stevie Wonder doing the Stevie Wonder head bob yeah yeah since childhood I've dreamed about that Do you think, and I don't mean to sidebar, but do you think he's blind or not?

1:00:41We say no. Oh, come on. No way. I'm not. I'm not. I think his vision is impaired. I think his vision is impaired, but so is mine. Look, I love a conspiracy theory. I fucking love a conspiracy theory given to me. And some of them are just genuinely, you know, there's more to the world than we think. I know that. And Jason always says that about Bush doing 9-11, so I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, exactly. Third eyes open, brother But think about Think about how this Think about the reality of what people are suggesting here That he Since the 60s Which is when Stevie Wonder started making music That he's been bullshitting No, no, no It's a way to stand out And I think maybe that we all need So it's a marketing I think it maybe was a joke Or a marketing thing that went too far The stories about him women walking by and his head turning.

1:01:40I believe that. That could be smell, though. It could be smell. He has heightened senses other than his sight. That's true. That's true. Like Rap Genius says, Kevin, you could lie all your life. He lied all his, even though he said like and not like. So you're saying he was able to successfully trick everyone for 50, 60 years or whatever it's been. I'm saying, I don't even know if it's a trick. I'm saying that I think even he believes it at this point. You know what I'm saying? I think it's like that kind of shit where it's so much. You lie so much you believe yourself. It's so much a part of his identity and his sort of, you know, his lore.

1:02:12It's like that one friend who's like never going to come out of the closet. You're like, damn, you're really going to go till the very end. Wow. Impressive. You're just going to take this thing home. It's like, and that friend, that friend's going to hook up with guys on vacation. And Stevie Wonder's watching TV at home with his legs kicked up. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. And occasionally. And what did you say? Occasionally checking out the old chick on the street. Yeah. Yeah. You know, he sees something nice walk by. I've seen him in this barbecue restaurant in Hollywood, and his handler, his girlfriend, had to tell him, stop looking at the menu.

1:02:44Stop looking at the menu. He's over here picking out his sides. No, when something nice, when he sees a wagon pass his view, he can't help but go on swivel. He can't help it. He's just a man. He's simply a man. There's a limit to his genius, right? Exactly. I think it's more fun to believe. That one feels almost harmless to me. You know what I mean? It feels like a fun. He still gave us this amazing body of work. It's just kind of funny. Yeah, it's not like Woody Allen. I could still listen to all of Stevie's beautiful music, whether or not he's been lying about his vision. Victimless crime. Arguably victimless crime.

1:03:19Kevin's convinced. This is what we do over here, Kevin. I wanted to ask you about your haircut. Because you were a long hair guy for what seems like an eternity. I feel like this was a big deal. Who did the cut? How long did you think about it? How much did it cost? I thought about it for a while you know what I was waiting I was waiting for something different like you know I don't know if you guys have ever had long hair but as a guy it can be a burden it can just be like oh man I just like you see guys with short hair and you're just sort of like oh god that must be nice you know you see it but you know what I was just ready for a change you know like I've always loved I've always like sort of you know loved my hair in a way you don't want to go you don't want to go crisp mode but you wanted somewhere in between yeah I was just ready for a change I just wanted to cut it off and try something new you know your hair does look very good right now I will say thanks it looks great that's what I'm saying it looks great and I think it looks better this way thanks man if I'm being honest with you but I don't want to pick I don't want to pick between my two Kevins you know we love them both yeah thanks you don't have to pick it's um um it is what it is so before you would have to like don't make me choose kevin so before you you get you'd have to take a shower and you get your hair wet but you wouldn't shampoo and condition it because that's all thing and then you have to put a beanie on to dry it out so it doesn't get all poofy and floofy yeah exactly it's um it was a lot more of a delicate you know like didn't want to go out in the wind um before it was dry it's it's tough for convertible ownership as well.

1:04:59Yeah, the 911. You had to keep three different hats in the 911 before you went down to Gelson's to make sure your shit looked good. Yeah. It might be more of a Suzuki Samurai down there in Perth, right? Wait, what? Is the car at home more of a Suzuki Samurai or a Porsche 911? At home? In Perth, in Australia. It's a Toyota Land Cruiser. Look at you. You're just a humble guy, man. i love that about you just regular you're like these i'm in florida you're like these guys i'm at the grocery store with just got yeah but yeah but but but i am a frustrated like sports car guy like you want one but you won't let yourself have it yeah i have this i have this theory that i call the ferrari conundrum um which is that which is that you know your whole life you grow up as a kid just thinking the ferrari is the coolest fucking thing in the world and like it's like you know, as a kid, as a kid, I was like, if I ever can buy a Ferrari, I'm going to buy a Ferrari.

1:06:02But the, the, the, the paradox is that by the time you have enough money to buy a Ferrari, that it's a, it doesn't mean anything. It's like, yeah, I could buy a Ferrari, but what am I going to fucking do with it? You know? So you want a Ferrari because of what it symbolizes, you know? But as soon as you have enough money to buy one, you are, you're not interested in things that, give you that you know unless you're a douchebag yeah of course but i'm sure you've done that i'm sure you've done a few dumb things yeah of course um i mean i mean monetarily i don't mean i don't mean spiritually yeah i've got my um my outlet for outlets for sure but i'm generally pretty frugal can i can i yeah can i give you my um my ferrari sort of scenario though this is why i think it would be like i was joking with my friend um chris about like the possibility of me buying a ferrari so it's like it's like called chris up like chris i just bought a ferrari man he's like what was like yeah i just got a ferrari let's go for a drive like fuck yeah let's go for a drive we get in we drive like to like a town an hour away we're driving the freeway like isn't this the fucking sickest thing ever we get home that was so much fun next weekend i call him up chris you go for driving the ferrari again like yeah fuck yeah let's do it get in the ferrari have a great time next weekend chris driving the ferrari like yep yeah yeah yeah um i've got something on later but let's do it and then like the next weekend chris we're going for driving the ferrari you coming it's like uh i've actually got to see my mom dude um it's like what are you supposed to do you can't yeah anyway no i think that's a i think it's a great way to put it i think the i think that But for the real heads, they look at it as like a daily driver, which is even darker.

1:07:51Like it's not like I, you know what I mean? Like I think a guy who really wants that car is like, yeah, this is great. This is normal. I can take this to the mall. I can take this to the gym. And they don't realize that they look like an asshole is the difference. I'm going to go drop my wife off at the airport in my fucking Ferrari that's purple. Also, Ferraris have been co-opted by content creators that live in Miami and just lost their ass on Bitcoin. Crypto, Twitch streamers. It's a real streamer crypto car. It's not what it was. But it's cooler if you just say, hey, this Ferrari is$200 ,000.

1:08:26I'm going to spend, let's say, half that. Or just get a cool 90s Bentley or something like that. And that's your daily driver. And then you just go to the pub with your friend and you don't make a whole thing of it. Yeah, sure. I like that for you. I'll send over some links. I like a 90s rolls. Yeah, Jason, bring a trailer. Crack in. Let's send some links over. Yeah. But look, for the record, if I do end up buying a sports car... You've never bought a sports car. I want to be clear. You've never bought one. No, I actually have a Tesla Model S. That's not a sports car. I'm talking about something obnoxious that is like a teenage boy fantasy type thing.

1:09:04Okay, good. Never. No, no, never. But there is a yearning in me to own one. Well, look, let's see how this album does. we're still waiting on first week numbers and then once it's true if they if it hits i think we take ourselves to the dealership and get daddy a present i'd like i'd like to see you in like a like a dijon yellow 911 oh yeah you know zipping around it doesn't have to you know whatever eighty thousand dollars yeah mid-range it's a cute car yeah i mean sure that yeah exactly that would be a couple orchids in the front then but then like reality comes in it's like it's like wait man i would be at the dealership paying for it just going like what the fuck am i doing this is a great no your impulses are great this is good for you this better to be the way you are than the other yeah your your brain is working like reverse cocaine purchases this is we'll see hopefully that answers your question about like do i feel like a fully grown adult now so it does feel very responsible way to way to bring it all together i'll tell you what i tell you what kids is is a really good way of um changing your perspective on who the most important person in this equation is you know um yeah it's still you but your kids are getting close they're they're inching up there it's still one two three but you know that's i've heard a lot of people say that and i just whenever people say that like well now i have something to live for and I'm like, well, you still have to live for yourself, bro.

1:10:40I'm not saying that's what you are thinking. No, exactly, exactly. No, no, no. It's just a good sort of like leveler. Yeah. Let's put it that way. The leveler. Yeah, it's a good way of sort of you think you're the most important person. You look at your kids and you go, you know what? I am the most important person. But this, I don't know if that's a stupid fucking joke. I look at their beautiful faces and I just say, I am the most important person still. I come home from a late night in the club. My kids are sleeping. I say, without me, you are nothing. You won't even have diapers, you little shit.

1:11:17You know what? You're the last one. Be here if it wasn't for me. Are you in New York or are you back in LA? I'm in rural Pennsylvania, my friend. Oh, are you in that town where everybody gets ready for tour? I sure am. I fucking love it here. I love it. It's like, I think it's the closest I'll ever feel to like working at NASA or something. Really? I've heard about this place from a few different friends. And it's like, so it's basically like you can run the whole show full size, full tilt. They've just got like arenas here without seats. Oh, wow. It's just a massive shed. You just hang your whole show.

1:11:53And the hotel is like attached to the, it's like on site, everything. It's like a big university campus, but it's like just for rock and roll. Are you the only guys there? No, Sabrina Carpenter is next door, actually. Okay, good. She'd take a weekend off to go do SNL. She's taken up all the nice rooms upstairs, the hotel. To be fair, Sabrina's earned them more than you. I don't mean to. It's bullshit. You don't need a suite. Mate, mate, listen. I was coming to Lidditz. I was coming to Lidditz, Pennsylvania, when she was getting singing less. When she was in diapers. when she was making more money than all of us on the disney channel i was coming to pennsylvania that's so true she's probably been doing this longer than me um no that place is that place is fascinating and i hope to i hope to go one day um because i because we've also been told i've heard there's a mini sphere in burbank it's a similar idea where they like run the whole oh wow you can you can basically like it's obviously to scale it's much smaller but you can like baby sphere run the whole thing and like you know work out all the kinks and stuff so how many days do you prep for a tour of this size like two weeks i think oh the the the they've already been here for two it's like the best part of a month okay so big big dog shows up big dog shows up when they're ready to like play this shit no i like to think of myself as you know quite uh in there yeah but you just you you have to do more shit i mean the other guys that can do the stuff you got to do press you got to do this and that i mean i'm not i'm not loading i'm not helping them like back the trucks in we know we we know that we know come on guys we know that you're not we we already we already cleared that you're not a forklift kevin's going around taking lunch orders all right guys i'm going to sweet green what do you guys want you guys want oh the salmon it's pretty good but the steak's new if you want to try it so is the how many times are you going to play the show all the way through in pennsylvania before you hit the road probably well let's address rehearsals so oh no there's uh there's don't use hollywood speak with me just tell me how many times you're gonna play the set the whole set start to finish we're like four but but okay but like but that's in like a week's time we've like there's there's us over in like band land so we've got our band set up over another building and then there's this arena where it's it's just this like empty stage and they've got lights and lasers and um all that shit and there's just like there's like 4 000 computers and laptops around the outside um it's it's quite it's quite a fucking thing i must say what's the coffee situation do they have an in-house barista uh yeah there's like there's like yeah there's many different ways you can get coffee well there's catering and then there's a restaurant yeah sure the hotel The restaurant is called Per Diem.

1:14:47No, that's good. I'm sorry, bro. You made a face, and I know it's corny, but it's too good. It works. I have to say it works. Exactly. The whole hotel is just the most cringe, rock and roll-themed hotel. The key, the door badges in the shape of guitar picks, everything's in the shape of guitar picks. Yeah, it sounds like Nashville, Tennessee. I mean, I get it. The doors are made of road cases, and the wallpaper in your hotel room is the AAA stickers, like working stickers. No. Oh, God. This sounds like they may have gone a little too far over there. This sounds like the best hard rock cafe to ever exist, kind of.

1:15:26Exactly. It's basically like a techie's dream. Yeah, there's a lot of guys wearing black jeans in that fucking hotel. Well, it's their dream because it's like doing the touring part, but without all the annoying people coming to the shows. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, I get to do all my fun little stuff. I got my little station. Without all the fans. And instead of making money, you pay money. It's awesome. Yeah. Well, they're not paying money. They do this thing where they practice loading in and loading out, which to me is just like some kind of torture. they pack up the whole show put it in the trucks and then they bring it straight back out again and set it up Kevin I gotta if it's not you because we don't have time I gotta do this I gotta run it I gotta be a crew member for a day to see how fast we can do it I wanna see how fast we can pack this shit up get it in the truck and get it back on stage yeah you need to go do a GQ story on this campus definitely it's fascinating you don't need a whole Netflix doc it's super interesting i i i agree someone should do a thing on it it sounds like the three of us are going to do it so if you're listening and you want to do a story on this place we already got it we got dibs that's it yeah you you're green lit we'll go out there and i'll actually i'll actually load the gear i'll put my mechanics gloves on and really load the gear i ain't a pussy i want to be clear this ain't i'm not some journalist i'm gonna get it i'm gonna get it in man i think you'd fit right in no well let's not say that uh thank you kevin for joining us today on how long gone it was a pleasure of course thanks for having me guys congrats on the album i think it's great well done thanks thanks man pleasure congratulations and i'll see you uh i'll probably see you out in hollow for halloween in new york with carolyn definitely yeah oh uh oh new york yeah fuck yeah what's your costume gonna be you're gonna tell or no uh when's this coming out tomorrow uh okay i can't tell you then it's a secret are you playing and are you playing on halloween in new york uh yes we are Oh, that's brave.

1:17:28That's brave. No, it's great. It's great. Like, you know, we always do something for Halloween. Last time we dressed up as the Wiggles. Look, Halloween is the worst night of the year in New York City, but... Oh, I fucking hate it. I hate Halloween, except for when we have a show. Being inside of Madison Square Garden or whatever is probably one of the better places to be. You'll be at Barclays, right? Barclays? I'm sorry to hear that. Next time, maybe. Barclays is bigger. I'm joking. I'm joking. No, I know. I know. don't tell me it's bigger you asshole it's actually bigger it's actually bigger the only way that i know that is because we it's because we've already done msg and we've moved up all right big dick kevin parker thanks for joining us here i'm sorry how long gone he's stunting on us it's time to go thank you it is time to go we'll see you on the road it's got it uh thank you man thank you guys i appreciate it thanks for having me

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