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29 Oct 2025 · 59 min

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How Long Gone: Episode 863 Summary Notes

Podcast Details

  • Title: How Long Gone
  • Hosts: Chris Black and Jason Stewart
  • Frequency: Three episodes a week
  • Content Focus: Pop culture, fashion, music, and more.

Episode Overview

  • Episode Title: 863 - Chris & Jason
  • Description: A one-on-one episode with Chris almost out of Florida and Jason in Glendale. Topics include the decline of "today's office" posting, Justin Bieber's World Series appearance, Greyhound anecdotes, Vogue World, celebrity outsourcing, and a neighborhood narc situation.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Scheduling Issues
  2. Chris reflects on their previous scheduling mistakes and the impact on their partnership.
  3. Discussion on the importance of not letting minor scheduling issues affect personal feelings.
  1. Decline of "Today's Office" Posting
  2. Observations on the decrease of posts flaunting exotic work locations in favor of more traditional office settings.
  3. Speculation on generational shifts in social media behavior and remote work influences.
  1. Justin Bieber's Appearance
  2. Bieber's quirky outfit choice at a Dodgers game, including a controversial do-rag.
  3. Comparisons between Bieber and other pop culture figures in terms of style and persona.
  1. Celebrity Outsourcing and Pop Culture
  2. Commentary on the trend of celebrities outsourcing their authenticity and the "performative" nature of modern celebrity culture.
  3. Discussion of Vogue World and its financial success despite mixed public reception.
  1. Polymarket Predictions
  2. Predictions on closet actors and upcoming presidential pardons.
  3. The humorous and speculative nature of these predictions.
  1. Personal Anecdotes
  2. Chris shares a hilarious Greyhound story, emphasizing the contrasts in lifestyle and experiences between celebrities and regular individuals.
  1. Neighborhood Narc Conundrum
  2. Jason discusses a suspicious Tesla parked in front of his house, contemplating how long to wait before involving authorities.
  3. The balance between community concern and the desire not to become a "narc."

Key Takeaways

  • Cultural Observations: The hosts highlight the evolving nature of social media and celebrity culture, emphasizing that the unique lifestyles once showcased are becoming more normalized and less impressive.
  • Personal Connection: Chris and Jason's banter illustrates their deep friendship, allowing them to share personal stories alongside broader cultural commentary.
  • Humor and Satire: The episode is marked by humorous anecdotes about Justin Bieber and the absurdities of celebrity life, creating an engaging listening experience.

Conclusion This episode of *How Long Gone* captures the essence of contemporary pop culture and the daily lives of its hosts, blending personal stories with broader societal observations. The lighthearted yet insightful discussions keep the audience entertained while prompting reflection on modern life.

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0:17Chris Black:How long gone? Super Tuesday. Chris Black and them jeans coming to you live one-on-one. There was a scheduling snafu. It'll be corrected later. But thank God for you. you get the titans of industry one-on-one head-to-head ready to tumble and tangle for your

0:35Jason Stewart:entertainment pleasure yeah one of these days pr people are gonna figure out how to use their

0:39Chris Black:calendar and we'll see who knows i don't i don't know if i you know i'm i'm so dialed into the calendar that when i make a mistake which does happen i really beat myself up i i don't let it go i don't let it go easily i'm really like god damn it like the one when i was in singapore and we had to not record because I'd fucked up. I thought I could get up at 4 a.m. and do it. And then I realized I couldn't. And you were like, yeah, all good, bro. That still sticks with me. You haven't thought about it since. That still, that weighs on my heart. In my mind, I was like, damn, you went to Singapore?

1:15Chris Black:What was that like? Yeah, wait, where is that?

1:20Jason Stewart:I think that's a good life lesson. And I think, you know, not to put on my BetterHelp hat, but you know the the the crisis and the situation especially when you pull back with enough time it's never as much of a life or death issue as you make it inside of your mind and i think you know let how long gone be an example of that where you're like yeah this thing that still weighs on me you are my business partner and it affected your life and schedule greatly i don't even remember and i don't even know what you're talking about and that that's no that's that's reasonable

1:55Chris Black:and I'm glad that we luckily can play both sides of the coin here.

2:00Jason Stewart:Yeah, and it's good when that happens to me. I say, oh, man, I'm so sorry. I'm going to be 20 late. We got the fucking sprinkler guy, the rooter guy, the plumber guy, whatever it is. I got to wipe my dog's paws because they went in the mud, whatever it could be. And you say, yeah, that's fine. You say, I don't care. I'll cancel this podcast right now. I really don't give a fuck. And I'm like, okay, bro, I just said I'm going to be five minutes late because my coffee is taking longer to boil.

2:25Chris Black:I'll shut the Zoom down right fucking now. Don't test me. I'll slam my laptop shut until Monday. Don't test me. I've noticed actually that there's been sort of a slowdown in the today's office style posting. You know what I'm talking about? Where someone would maybe be at like a beautiful island location and they would take a picture of the beach and say, today's office, trying to make their haters jealous that they're in the Bahamas on a Tuesday. I feel like that has slowed down a little bit, and I don't know if that has to do with remote work. I know it's getting sort of pulled back. These CEOs are saying, come back to the office, you fucking losers.

3:10Chris Black:But I wonder if there's bigger reasons or if that style of posting, much like the sort of millennial tablescape with a croissant and a matcha, has seen better days. Do you think that's the same with today's office?

3:23Jason Stewart:Yeah, maybe our gen alpha homies find that completely choogy to do, you know. I think I'm going to like my view from the office today. I think that, like you said, people going back to the office, working five days a week, so they don't have the ability to do that. And when they do have the ability to get away for a weekend, and bop over to Palm Springs or to the Grand Cayman Islands, maybe Jamaica. Our hearts go out to our homies in Jamaica going through the hurricane right now. But people need a vacation more so. And they're like, bitch, I get 48 hours off from my job that I don't like. I am going to whatever.

4:05Jason Stewart:This ain't my office, actually. I'm not opening my fucking laptop unless it's to watch Frasier before I go to bed. I'm reading a book, and I'm getting fucked up.

4:16Chris Black:That is also possible. I just remember that posting style had a choke hold on the World Wide Web and Instagram in particular. Now we've got Justin Bieber sitting in front of 50 empty cups on Twitch talking to his homies about how even lusting after a woman is cheating.

4:41Jason Stewart:We're going to get to that. There's much to be covered there i think you know the millennial posting it was really like a way of showing off that like hey i'm a creative person and i don't have to go to a cubicle like you people look at my dope ass life one day i'm in a tour bus one day i'm on the plane one day i'm in bali you know whatever it is and i think now that everyone is a creative it's sort of like leveled the playing field and it's no longer even noteworthy that you know your office today is in the back of a cool warehouse and big things are coming watch this space you're right I mean I think I think

5:24Chris Black:you're right I think there's a lot of truth to that but we will continue to monitor the situation of course keep our heads yeah heads down eye on the ball so Justin Bieber he was at the Dodger

5:34Jason Stewart:game last night every time the Dodgers would get a home run he would do a thumbs down at him which

5:39Chris Black:is exactly what I want Bieber to be doing. Of course, my Canadian King. How could I forget? I did see them at the game. He somehow, even though he's shaved and he looks great, he puts on, when he wears his white boy do-rag, it still makes him look like a crackhead. There's nothing that can make you look worse as a turnt up white boy in baggy pants than putting on the fake do-rag. Like that, you can't wear that. I know that's a beanie. I'm sure he would categorize it differently, but that is a do-rag to me.

6:07Jason Stewart:Well, I would say you've got somebody like a Jack Donahue from Salem, and I think that he has a lot of similar vibes. Yeah, but he's above the law.

6:20Chris Black:He's above the law.

6:21Jason Stewart:That's why I want to use them as an A-B comp. They're both kind of quirked up white boys with, you know, a bunch of weird tattoos, questionable facial hair. And they have probably both worn do rags and scullies and all sorts of things of that nature. Yet when he does it, he's able to pull it off. Is it simply just a body mass issue that like because Justin is, you know, 138 pounds, you know, head to toe tattoos. and he's wearing only the baggiest clothing of all time, and when he puts the hood on and the do-rag and everything, he looks like he has Lyme disease. You know what I mean? He looks infirmed, whereas Jack, his fine ass fills out that scully, no problem.

7:10Chris Black:It fills out the do-rag, no problem. Let me tell you what it is. It's because Jack's taken a dick before. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I think Big Jack keeps him guessing. He's done time in prison. Justin Bieber wishes he could do time in prison. There's nothing he wants to do more than some time in prison. Get away from his wife. All he has to do is pray all day. I mean, that's the dream. I think that Justin...

7:34Jason Stewart:We need... And also, Jack, he's had bulking and cutting, bulking and cutting many times over his life. He's been fat. He's been snatched. He's been buff as hell. He's been regular. He's gone through all forms. Bieber has never done a weight gain. He's never dirty bulked. He's always been rail thin.

7:55Chris Black:He's never dirty bulked.

7:57Jason Stewart:And when Jack puts on, he's got his gray sweatpants on, he puts his Timberlands on, and he walks around normally. Bieber puts Timberlands on, he can barely get his feet up.

8:06Chris Black:Oh, they're so heavy. It really is. It could be just a straight projecting masculinity issue, but Jack also just feels like a real man, and Justin Bieber feels like he's been groomed to be a pop star since he was a child. So it's a little bit of a – there's going to be a swag deficiency there. Yeah, there's a swag deficiency. There's a swag chasm. There's a swag chasm, and I don't know what can be done about that. I don't know if there's any – someone like Jack is so far ahead that I don't know if someone like Justin could ever catch up. That's the honest truth.

8:42Jason Stewart:I mean, we would have to put him through a boot camp to even get into the same conversation. I don't know.

8:48Chris Black:Can you imagine us pulling up in the Econo line and kidnapping Justin Bieber outside of Poppy at 2 a.m. and blindfolding him and taking him to the woods?

8:57Jason Stewart:This is going to be called Scared Gay, not Scared Straight.

9:01Chris Black:All right, get out of here. We're going to teach you what this is like. Yeah, he has a dirty bulk. He has to live in a tent. And we're going to have to take the Bible away for at least a week.

9:11Jason Stewart:He's going to have to do stuff that Jack would do. You're going to have to find heroin in Des Moines, Iowa. Find the hottest girl in Des Moines, Iowa. She's going to shoot up in between your toes. You're going to wake up in a different city. He ain't built for it. He ain't built for it. Beaver's never been in a situation where he's like, all right, this old guy is going to pay me$800 to chop wood in his backyard and film it with no shirt on. And that's how I'm going to make rent this month. there that's how i'm gonna get my bus ticket no just to the next city or whatever yeah just

9:44Chris Black:justin beaver's never been on a greyhound and been like i need 500 if all i have to do is suck it a little bit fuck it i'll do it i've done worse for less he ain't ever you know i once had to go to a greyhound station i'm proud to say i've never taken a greyhound bus and i had to i'd gotten some i mean speaking of gay i'd gotten some mid-century chairs on ebay and they were shipped via Greyhound, which used to be a thing you could do. And the Greyhound station in Atlanta was, of course, by the jail. And I went there to pick up these chairs. And I was like, man, I am not built for that.

10:23Jason Stewart:That was the least hard thing you could do at a Greyhound station. I'm here to pick up my Eames chair.

10:29Chris Black:It was literally. That's literally what it was. So I'm just like, get these boxes.

10:36Jason Stewart:You've got a monocle underneath your, in your armpit.

10:39Chris Black:I'll just read over here while you guys find it. Just let me know when you find it. It was a humbling experience. I brought sandwiches. To basically be like in the same way. Like I could never be like, I'm driving a truck. I'm living in the swamp right now. I know I'm not cut from the same cloth as Jack and I could never get there. And I think Justin's in a similar situation to me, man. Yeah. And hoes can smell that on you. They can smell it. They can smell it. And they know. And his, I mean, there's this video of him, Haley and Kendall at the Dijon show in New Orleans for some reason. And he is in a triple hug, let's say, with the two baddies.

11:17Jason Stewart:Ladies, you want a triple hug tonight back in my place? That's the most you can do as a Christian.

11:21Chris Black:I know. Yeah. Triple hug is his real world road rules, triple kiss. You know what I mean? So he's doing the triple hug while Dijon's playing his goat. And it just feels...

11:37Jason Stewart:Okay, so it's him, his wife, and Kendall?

11:39Chris Black:Yeah, him, his wife, and his wife's hot-ass best friend. And it just feels like it's giving Lil Bro even to his wife. You know what I mean? It's giving like this little guy needs our help a little bit.

11:53Jason Stewart:Yeah, but also, Kendall and Justin, I think, have hit.

11:58Chris Black:I don't know about that.

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11:59Jason Stewart:I saw some rumblings. I see a post right now. After that intimate video, it turns out Kendall and Justin have a murky history.

12:08Chris Black:I mean, I'm sure all of those Calabasas chlamydias have traded. You know what I mean? I'm sure they've done their thing. But I don't. I mean, this reminds me of the time where I was introduced to the guy who had sex with all the Kardashians, who I still want to talk to on this podcast. That remind me to chase that.

12:25Jason Stewart:We've all played spin the 818 bottle at one point if you spend enough time in LA, right?

12:30Chris Black:Not spin the 818. After church, we're going to play spin the 818 at Courtney's house if you guys want to come over.

12:37Jason Stewart:Yeah, I mean, I think it's a thousand percent plausible that at some point, Courtney Kardashian took advantage of Justin Bieber. No, Courtney definitely beat.

12:44Chris Black:That was like a thing. That was like a pretty nothing. Kendall, I'd never heard. Whether he liked it or not. I'd never heard that about Kendall because Kendall is a lesbian is always what I've been told. And if you date Bad Bunny, you are a lesbian in my mind. But I don't know what the facts are in this case, Jason. And luckily, those facts are not important to us. But I do think that that hug had a sad energy that shouldn't exist when there's three hotties embracing. You know what I mean? It should have an uplifting feeling as the viewer. And when I'm looking at that, I feel sad for everyone because I feel like they have to sort of like, when Justin drops his blanket getting off the private plane, they have to pick it up for him.

13:25Chris Black:You know? It's like he needs so much help and support from the people in his life because he's had such a fucked up go of it. Yeah. And some of that's his fault and some of it is the system's fault. Of course.

13:38Jason Stewart:Well, I think Justin, you know, just from somebody like myself, obviously he's lived quite a life for his age, but, you know, take it from Unk, Unk Advice, if you're going to go for a triple hug, you have to make sure everyone is on Molly at the very least or else the vibes are going to be wrong and off. They're going to be saying, is his arm on my tit for, is that intentional? What's happening? Do I just smile? How long does this last for?

14:03Chris Black:I agree. It's also, when all three of you are wearing Starface, it's also weird. That's just me. That's just me.

14:09Jason Stewart:But yeah, I don't know if the - I wore my Starface to the Dijon show. Yeah, we exist.

14:15Chris Black:I think that there's, I just, man I just feel like I don't know the devil and God are raging inside of him and one of them is a crack pipe and one of them is literally the bible and historically I feel like the crack pipe wins every time and then the bible can kind of come in and clean up the mess later but you gotta go I don't know I just don't know how it's gonna go for him because he gave us an album that people seem to like but it went away pretty quick but that could be every album these

14:46Jason Stewart:days you know yeah yeah yeah not that's not 100 his fault it's not it's not i just it's uh we'll call it 60 his fault for making an album that has 48 songs on it 48 songs but he did dijon did

14:58Chris Black:confirm he played drums on all of them which i do appreciate i you know i love i love when a singer

15:02Jason Stewart:can play drums i don't know if you know that about me tapping well so we've learned it i think it's cool that we've got god god herself in the bible and then on the other hand you've got hunter Biden's crack cocaine, literally taking a leaf and mixing it with Arm and Hammer baking soda and smoking it until you get much higher than you normally would, that is better than God Allah himself. That is more powerful.

15:32Chris Black:100%. I mean, there's nothing less cool than being Christian. That's the fact that that has, and obviously that is hardwired into us from our hardcore backgrounds and we probably feel too strong or at least i speak for myself i probably feel too strongly about that in some ways but part of me is also like hey do whatever you gotta do to get through and then part of me is like performative christianity in 2025 when you're hitting the pipe feels crazy like who would like i mean you could just do both that's cool but you can't be that

16:02Jason Stewart:self-righteous about it no no you're you're on a tight rope and it's a matter of when not if when your ass is going to fall down.

16:10Chris Black:Yeah, there's only so many In-N-Out Sprites you can drink before shit catches up with you. Go ahead, go ahead.

16:18Jason Stewart:Yeah, so let's see here. I've got a few. Do you want to talk about Vogue World?

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22:18Jason Stewart:it exists that's the answer she phrased it in a funny way like why did they do it uh 30 million top line revenue. Yeah. Whatever that means.

22:28Chris Black:Everybody like I get wanting to dunk on it because it is a kind of ridiculous combination of several things.

22:34Jason Stewart:If you watched it you would dunk on it.

22:36Chris Black:I've watched it before. No, I didn't watch it this time but I've watched it before. It's basically just like a runway show with celebrities. You know what I mean? That's what it is. That's the idea. It's not that crazy of a concept but it is, I understand from a viewer standpoint that it's a why are we doing this type thing but if you know anything you know the only reason anything happens these days is because it of monetary gain which and 30 million dollars is a lot of money and look am i jealous that i didn't

23:04Jason Stewart:get invited yeah of course was it bad yeah will i say it's good if i get invited absolutely yeah

23:10Chris Black:it's a very clear i think a lot of people yeah yeah i mean do i want to sit between paloma and alex kasani and and kiki while celebrities and uh people in scary costumes walk down the runway

23:23Jason Stewart:yes i do i really want to do that but does a dog have fleas i do think does abella have lines

23:28Chris Black:if we yeah we got to talk about lupus too but if you if you think that i guess there are people who want to see these sort of institutions fail and die you know like they're like this is all we have substack we don't need vogue you know i'm sure those people out there exist but i think that like vogue doing a 10 minute live stream that nets them 30 million dollars is pretty good for everybody because all you do is see pictures of hot people leaving the party at the chateau marmont and then read about them making 30 it's pretty inoffensive at the end of the day i guess

24:02Jason Stewart:is what i'm saying i i think people are more upset because ryan o 'connell posted a story about it this morning hi ryan about how like it's it's less that the show is bad and and useless and more to him that like vogue and everyone involved is is acting as if we all know what vogue world is and it's a thing that's been happening for decades sure and what are you talking about what

24:28Chris Black:is this you know what i mean yeah yeah i mean and that's i mean but i think maybe leaving it a little bit gray is probably the point to get you to tune in but i i i would agree that there There's sort of some, yeah, they're expecting you to know more than you do. I would definitely agree with that. I would definitely agree with that.

24:46Jason Stewart:To me, it's also an example of the pitch-perfect glee-ification of everything. The theater geeks and the nerds have risen in the tech world as well as the entertainment world now. and it's not we can't just do what if there was a fashion show with hot people wearing good clothes yeah it has to be now jenny from blackpink is going to perform with you know we need gracie

25:16Chris Black:abrams covering carol king and mumford and sons covering gracie abrams it has to be dancing and

25:21Jason Stewart:i want to do hair and what if i carry this prop and you get a job and everyone is involved and it's a big thing and there's you know that everything is being turned into like a high school production you know addison ray show all the you know what if i use that chair and this is

25:37Chris Black:a ladder and i'm going to improvise and be myself no it's definitely it's definitely theater vibes but i mean i think that if we want to go down make sure the wheelchair person has a good look if we want to go down that route though i do i'm also like well everything's pointless like like Like every fashion show that has ever happened is pointless. No. Yeah, it's only to sell clothes, and the reality is - That's the point. But the people there aren't the ones buying the clothes. People are buying the clothes, unless they're VICs that are invited to the show, but VICs are buying the clothes when they see them in pictures on the internet.

26:13Jason Stewart:Well, that's now because of the internet, but the original intention of it was to literally sell clothes to the people.

26:18Chris Black:Well, for buyers to go, but I don't think that that - None of that needs to exist anymore if we really want to get into it. It's glamorous, and the pictures that it produces are cool and interesting. And I would say most of the excitement is from the pictures of the celebrities leaving and coming from the show versus the actual show. So, I mean, that's why they're wearing the clothes. Obviously, they're dressing all these. Ayo's not going to a show if she's not wearing the brand or whatever. But I guess I'm just like, it's like anything else. These brands are spending millions and millions of dollars on something that lasts 10 minutes.

26:51Chris Black:and I've been to a lot of them and they can be really fun and cool and it's pretty amazing what the scale is and all that stuff is very real. But if you really want to get down to brass tacks, it's like, is this worth X amount of millions in marketing? Like, I don't know. I don't know. Whereas this is definitely not necessary, but if they're making$30 million, it's tough to argue with it.

27:12Jason Stewart:Yeah, they're going to say, hey, maybe we'll just stop doing fashion shows and just do this. Well, I guess it goes back to the restauranteur on tours the DJs the podcasters where everyone's like hey I'm a model and I'm a professional model I look cool I have an insane body and face and I wear clothes really well and that's my job I'm a good DJ I'm a good interviewer blah blah blah and then celebrities are like I'm gonna do that job now and since I'm more famous than you you don't have a job anymore yeah for sure so at a certain point celebs are gonna do fucking everything like the person passing out the appetizers at Vogue World.

27:52Jason Stewart:Sorry, Dave Franco is going to take over for you now.

27:54Chris Black:Damn, how did you get Dave Franco for this? He looks amazing in that tuxedo. God, this is great. I like where your head's at, and you're not wrong.

28:02Jason Stewart:Sorry, Rachel Ziegler is the valet. You can go ahead and head home now.

28:07Chris Black:I just think when something like this happens and people are like, what is this? What's the point? I understand that impulse, but when I think about it, I'm like, well, I could say that about almost everything I do on a daily basis. What is the point? Of course. The point is either to make money or to... Actually, no, the point is always to make money. I would say for anyone doing anything public-facing, it's either to get admiration from your enemies and peers because you're so good at something, or it's to make money. And I don't think that we have to ask that question every time something new pops up.

28:44Jason Stewart:Horror, well, I mean, because it used to be, I do this because I have to do this. Because it is all I eat, drink, sleep, and breathe and think about. And I think that is still true for some people. And I will do it with or without the money. You know, that's what it was. And now you can't tell if it is or not.

29:02Chris Black:I think that is still true with some people. And I think that I would obviously think of that as a writer or a musician because those are the two art forms that I respect the most. but i'm sure those people still exist across all disciplines but i think that if everything can be monetized and you want to survive off of doing what you like then you got to monetize yeah you

29:24Jason Stewart:even though david guetta loves being a millionaire with a private plane i also feel like he probably has to he would be just djing at a local pub if he didn't have the success he really you know some

29:36Chris Black:people gots it oh i think that i think that's i think that's true and i think that's why you should be DJing at the local pub more often because you claim you really like it you know

29:42Jason Stewart:I will be doing a curated music set at Gelson's for close friends I really love it honestly this

29:49Chris Black:is one of the coolest things you've ever done I have to say like I really like it it feels like it really hits on your personality in a way where a lot of things don't where you really get to do everything you love in one place and you have such a history with Gelson's that it feels like

30:04Jason Stewart:a homecoming thanks to our dear friends at flash food yeah I was I was just recalling I don't know how many years ago 10 years ago or whatever i got a gelson's tote bag it was like a grocery bag that you could reuse in the shape of a brown grocery bag with a flat bottom yeah it was it was a dark hunter green that had the old gelson's logo on it where it said gelson's the supermarket oh i like that it is it was a nice classic logo unfortunately their new logo they had to switch it up keep it a little more clean but doesn't work for me anyway i took that tote bag which is you know it costs 99 cents from gelson's or whatever to buy the reusable bag took it to a tailor oh and paid paid him 20 to you know basically go denim doctor mode on this tote on this shopping bag and turn it into like a standard tote bag like i removed the flat bottom and it just turned into my little shoulder bag i could put my dj stuff in there and it was just my dj bag i remember this which was very on brand for me i remember this and now it's come full circle that's beautiful honestly

31:07Chris Black:that's a beautiful heartwarming story like i really i i think also this is this is before the influx of tote bags that we've hit now where it's like early adopter too early many are saying i have to throw away 10 a week or my house gets overtaken with them and i look like a hoarder but that's that's a great that's a great story and i'm glad that you've reconnected with your favorite grocer uh what is can you tell me what flash foods is because i don't know um yes chris

31:33Jason Stewart:Of course. It's basically an app. In your own words, please. It's basically an app that tells you all the best secret kind of deals going on. Oh, I see. So it's like. Mostly like produce, meat kind of thing. So when stuff is on like a deep discount, like, hey, this bag of oranges that's normally$10 is$5 now because whatever. It's not expired or it's not gone bad.

31:58Chris Black:They're just trying to move some product and it tips you off to that so you can purchase accordingly.

32:02Jason Stewart:Yeah. You know, there's always something going on in like the cheese section at Whole Foods and you can get some like expensive shit for dirt cheese.

32:11Chris Black:That's what I'm always sniffing around over in the cheese section being like, where are the deals?

32:15Jason Stewart:It's basically like panning for gold over there. You go in there because cheese, you know, a lot of cheese is very expensive.

32:23Chris Black:Cheese can get pricey. No, I know that. I know that. I mean, I only craft singles, but I've seen some shit. I've seen some shit that looks expensive.

32:30Jason Stewart:It has, obviously, it has a shelf life to it. Once you cut it into chunks and wrap it in the plastic, it's a ticking clock. And then they have to turn stuff over and put it on clearance or deeply discounted way before that happens. And usually, I go to Whole Foods, and if I get a good deal on any of this stuff, it's just pure luck. And now this app, they'll just straight up tell you, like, boom, the fucking Hook's five-year cheddar is 50 % off at Whole Foods right now. Go pull up. Start Grayton. Well, you know, I've actually, I feel...

33:05Chris Black:Grayton Carter.

33:07Jason Stewart:Cheese lover.

33:08Chris Black:Grayton Carter when he's on the salad station.

33:11Jason Stewart:Yeah, that's his... What are those little cards called?

33:16Chris Black:That's so fucking stupid. That's so good.

33:18Jason Stewart:What are the little baseball cards with the cartoon gross-out ones? What are those called? Garbage Pail Kids. Yeah, if Grayton Carter had a Garbage Pail Kid, I'm sure somebody drew it at Spy Magazine. It would be his head as a cheese grater, and it would be... Grayton Carter. Grayton.

33:36Chris Black:Yeah, that's good. I've been having some... Because I've been going to the grocery store so much, which I've probably gone to the grocery store more during this month in Florida than I have in my entire life. That's without... With no joke. And I'm having that sort of Kim Kardashian moment where I've seen people talking about the prices of things, and I didn't even think about it. And now, because I'm buying so many eggs for my protein, I'm like, oh, damn, these eggs do seem really expensive. I've never, I didn't, the people weren't lying. They were really, they had like - No, they're not lying.

34:12Chris Black:They had real reason to complain. And I know it's gone down a little bit now and it's still a boring thing to talk about on Twitter.

34:19Jason Stewart:I don't know if it's gone down a little bit. I think Trump says that it's going down, but I haven't noticed, you know, he says the gas and eggs and everything is going down,

34:28Chris Black:but hey in Florida it is going down gas is three dollars a gallon here big dog whoa damn like literally three I mean for normal you know what I mean for not for your high grade German engineering but for for a normal guy like me driving like an American-made truck unless you're filling up the McLaren yeah yeah which yeah unfortunately I'm not doing that but yeah I just I was like oh damn

34:48Jason Stewart:the grocery store they're they're twelve dollars they're a dollar each sometimes yeah that's what it's looking like it's like obviously I'm getting you know I'm getting my bespoke eggs but I thought you're going it's nothing crazy no it's nothing it's nothing too crazy i just i i feel like it's

35:01Chris Black:also a matter of if i'm the farmer i can push those prices you know now is the time it's like

35:06Jason Stewart:firing people during covid oh you're not gonna eat eggs okay have fun oh you don't you're not gonna drive your car anymore okay you know they got you by the balls i think also shout out friend of the show la grocer yeah la grocery they they have they've they've had cheap eggs there oh they got they got the eggs for the low overall melrose they got it yeah they got 17.5 for the egg to go to the back are they are they out no no they have them out i they were they're just not twice they're they're regular i mean they're like good like eggs that you would get at the farmer's market like a local good brand and they are the last time i saw it they were like half the price

35:43Chris Black:of whole foods it was like a very good deal oh now jason blew the spot up now they're gonna sell out good for them great they have a great uh coffee program there as well yeah i love that place it's i i love i like going there and i'm glad it exists because i feel like that is a really hard

35:57Jason Stewart:thing to do i like i like being inside there i don't like going to the neighborhood sorry guys i mean that's how i feel about almost all things that i like most of them are in neighborhoods i

36:06Chris Black:don't want to be in but melrose hill melrose hill is a fake neighborhood and i appreciate the

36:11Jason Stewart:attempt yeah they're trying they're trying it's gonna fail like so many others it's gonna be the new frog town frog town really did fail didn't it they're landlocked over there they got that frog trapped in a box. Where are you going to hop to? There's no parking. There's no way to expand. It's just you're stuck between the LA River and a freeway. What are you going to do? Are you going to tear down the 5 Freeway? Are you going to tear down the LA River? No.

36:37Chris Black:Well, I mean, there's that great independent coffee house there.

36:41Jason Stewart:No, there's good places there. I love wax paper.

36:44Chris Black:I was making a La Cologne joke.

36:46Jason Stewart:Oh yeah, I mean, there is La Cologne, a coffee shop.

36:50Chris Black:Wax paper is really one of the more special things in LA. I haven't had it in so long. And every time you bring it up, I'm like, I really got to make the effort and drive 45 minutes and look for parking to have a sandwich. It's so good. It's so, those sandwiches are so fucking good.

37:03Jason Stewart:Okay. Well, the next time you're in LA, I'll put in the to-go pickup order for a couple Ira glasses, which is their hippie vegetarian sandwich. Of course, I add turkey to get teamed up. I guess you could add more avocado or whatever you want. Get some of those Rusty's chips and then they have the Strauss dairy soft serve obviously hands off for you sometimes they'll have a little you know a little wiser melon swirled in there something just to balance things out that sounds that now you're I haven't had it I mean it's I haven't had a good meal in over a month so

37:36Chris Black:I'm really waiting I can't getting back to New York I can't I don't know where I'm going to go first I almost want to fly to LA go to backyard bowls then fly back to New York just to I mean

37:44Jason Stewart:you should break the seal because in LA right now this is the the wellness formula season for me where it finally, like it's three days away from November and summer is now starting to end. I woke up today. It was 58 degrees. And then at, you know, in three hours, it's going to be 91.

38:07Chris Black:Yeah, that's pretty intense. And we know that your body is also bitch made. So you do have to sort of stay on. It is bitch made,

38:14Jason Stewart:but I've really built it up. So I'm good.

38:16Chris Black:So you're saying it used to be worse than it is now.

38:19Jason Stewart:Oh, yeah. I used to get way more sick when I was younger all the time, for sure.

38:23Chris Black:Do you think this has something to do with being a twin?

38:26Jason Stewart:Like a nutrient deficiency scenario?

38:28Chris Black:Yeah, or something like, yeah, Chris took all the good stuff and you got height? Or does he get sick too?

38:35Jason Stewart:He did. I got more sick than he did. But when we were kids -

38:39Chris Black:He got the amazing taste of music, but his immune system's pretty good. Not great, but pretty good. Okay, got it.

38:44Jason Stewart:Not great, but pretty good. When we were younger, I think he had more ear infections than I did. no shade yeah yeah that's sorry diva and then he said i had more ear infections than he did when i was a kid i pulled the reports it was false if he had one i had one it's all there so so yeah let's get the doctor it's basically winter in the rest of the world carolyn is in new york right now with the puffer on you know getting her broth and i'm i might put on a shirt today you know that's where

39:13Chris Black:we're at i haven't worn pants since i got here i've worn shorts every day it's that it's definitely yeah i mean it's a little different here because it's not it's still humid so it's it's kind of

39:24Jason Stewart:gross you know yeah you don't want you don't want the your slacks sticking to your caps i do not i do not i want you're not gonna wear socks i know i haven't worn i i barely i only brought socks for

39:35Chris Black:the gym i only brought i can't dude i cannot wait when i sit back into that equinox oh my god it's gonna be like it's gonna be like when christ do you think they're gonna have a cake when christ move the rock it's no it's just when you go to a gym every day which i've been doing at anastasia fitness which is a great facility here but man my drag name i have not seen a hottie male or female i mean the drought i'll take anything like i'm like i'm praying at the airport that maybe something will creep through but man it's i'm it's because everybody's just old it's florida you know what there's no one by it everybody's you know 60 plus and if there are any you know sort of bar back types they're tatted up you know they got some bad tats they got some cheap headphones and i love that place it's a great gym but the thing about that i forget about equinox is the the the quantity of hotties is high male female non-binary i'm talking to everybody is good and that i need that It inspires me.

40:39Chris Black:I know.

40:40Jason Stewart:I mean, you are one of those people. It's you, Mark Jacobs, Galliano, Rick Owens. You have to be constantly surrounded by true beauty or else you're creative.

40:52Chris Black:Honestly, it sucks the life out of me. Pause. It really does. I can't. I really don't. I'm not able to.

40:59Jason Stewart:I'm going to keep it all the way I stack with you, Shadi. Suck the life out of me sometimes.

41:03Chris Black:And not in an oral way. No, honestly, I'm like, damn. I like even in Nashville at the Hermes store I was like oh thank god there's a few I mean Jesus Christ this is you know you forget how gifted we are living in New York and LA you forget how wonderful it is to be surrounded by people that are not only beautiful but like unique looking and have like a sense of style and outlook on the world that is strange okay so you I mean

41:28Jason Stewart:you you had this shell shock moment just by seeing a Nashville six just imagine what happens when

41:36Chris Black:you arrive back in damn hatton nashville six you wreck the gmc sierra trying to crane your neck at that point you'll drop your les paul it's nothing it's nothing it's nothing yeah i i literally but i just i just forget i just i've lived in new york too long you get used to that shit and you don't realize how great it is london is like that paris is like oh there's a lot of places like that florida is not one of those places it'll be cool if you know in the not too

42:02Jason Stewart:distant dystopian future you know a branding agency starts you know pitching these tertiary towns as gratitude exercises you know what i mean i see which is yeah go it's also like there's so

42:16Chris Black:many i understand why people live places like this like it's obviously it's affordable the weather's great you got access to the beach like there's all these great qualities you know the trash gets picked up on time i haven't seen a rat um you know i haven't seen i haven't seen human shit anywhere on a public street there's a lot of upsides okay there's a lot there's a lot of upsides you know what i mean but i think i really i i'm very affected by my surroundings visually is is what i've come to learn as i've aged pause yes there's a shortage of up lighting low low mood lighting correct oh yeah we're overhead only fluorescent did you i'm so sorry see the football player that wore the chrome hearts long sleeve under his jersey in the game no chrome hearts under armor not even bro just a regular he went to justin reed he got a chrome hearts long sleeve t-shirt for 800 and wore it under his jersey so you could see the chrome hearts

43:18Jason Stewart:you know printed on the sleeve oh god underneath yeah he's uh he was on uh vanderbilt cedric Alexander.

43:26Chris Black:Bro, first of all, Vanderbilt, of all places, Vanderbilt was a surprise for that.

43:31Jason Stewart:I'm going to pull up Vanderbilt's record. Let's get Mikey on the horn. Where's Dizza at? What's the record? Football standings. Let's see here. Vanderbilt 3-1 in the conference, 7-1 overall. 5-0 at home. Okay, we're looking pretty good. We're ranked fifth just behind Ole Miss, Georgia, Bama, and A &M. I feel like once they're in the top three, then you can let these guys wear Chrome, a little splash of Chrome on there. Otherwise, it's like when your team is down by 48 points in the fourth quarter and you get one touchdown and you start fucking celebrating. Like, yeah, suck my dick. And you're like, you have two minutes and 17 seconds to score seven more touchdowns.

44:20Chris Black:It's all good, bro. What are you doing? I feel like Chrome Hearts is such an interesting choice because it feels like one of the rare brands at that price point where you could just wear something, a little piece of jewelry. You could wear a chain, get the point across. This looks like broke boy stuff.

44:38Jason Stewart:Well, I mean, he is a college athlete. They don't get paid as much. They don't get paid as much. College athletes make money now.

44:44Chris Black:College athletes are millionaires. They're millionaires. These motherfuckers are millionaires. They're getting CTE for money now, how God intended. Maybe he got it on Poshmark. Who knows? He definitely didn't go to the Chrome Hearts boutique because there's not one in fucking Green Hills.

45:01Jason Stewart:He definitely bought it from a 14-year-old in a convention center somewhere.

45:06Chris Black:He was almost late for the game because he was haggling at ComplexCon, but he made it back just in time for the first snap.

45:13Jason Stewart:ComplexCon go hard, though. But Vanderbilt, that's in Nashville, right?

45:16Chris Black:Yeah, Vanderbilt is a great, nice school.

45:20Jason Stewart:Once the chrome hits Tennessee, it's time to pull up the stakes and move on.

45:26Chris Black:I think the chrome has hit everywhere. I think the chrome is the infectious disease that has crossed all paths. Chromid 19. Yeah, you got chromid. He got chromid. He got a bad case of chromid 19. Fauci got his ass. Face starting to look like Ryan Seacrest.

45:44Jason Stewart:He got a long COVID face. Cheekbones on Seacrest.

45:48Chris Black:Is that GLP-1? No, no, no.

45:51Jason Stewart:Have you seen people are talking about his face. They're like, I don't think this is Ozempic. I think he's got COVID face.

45:59Chris Black:Bro, leave him alone, man. That guy, look, Ryan Seacrest has done nothing but give us years and years of entertainment. He has a different blonde on his arm every five years. He doesn't hurt nobody. I guess he does. Ryan Seacrest stays to himself. Ryan Seacrest keeps to himself. He just does his thing. I don't know what the problem is.

46:20Jason Stewart:He's like the straight Peter Thiel, but he's clean. I don't know. He's clean. The thing with him, though, he's so powerful and so out of the spotlight. Who's the other British judge on American Idol? What's his name? Who's had all the crazy? Simon Cowell.

46:38Chris Black:Simon Cowell looks like he went away for a while.

46:42Jason Stewart:But for both of those people, they're so rich. They're so powerful. They're so behind the scenes. on everything, but they stay out of the public spotlight. You can't really trust what's going on. It feels...

46:53Chris Black:Oh, of course he's a demon. I'm not saying he's not a fucking absolute bloodsucker. I think he's killed people, but I'm saying he... Okay, okay. But he's clean. But he lays low. He does his thing. He's not messy. Leave him alone. If he wants to lose a little weight, the guy's fucking 60. He looks better than anyone I know. He looks great. Sure, his face is a little hollow. So what?

47:16Jason Stewart:He should link with your boy Rob Lowe and just get on some good, healthy fats. And just put 12 pounds on.

47:26Chris Black:And I'm sure that will happen. I just feel like people like - 50 piece grilled at Chick-fil-A. We got Rob Lowe looking great. But we got people out here. We got Bradley Cooper looking like he went to space and came back an alien. And y 'all are worried about Ryan Seacrest. Ryan Seacrest doesn't hurt nobody. Ryan Seacrest is not out here dating a woman 30 years younger, but you know what I'm saying. Ryan Seacrest is harmless. Ryan Seacrest has killed more people than Bradley Cooper, but he's somehow less problematic to me.

47:57Jason Stewart:But Ryan Seacrest has also probably killed more monologues than B. Cooper has, and that's why Bradley can never come out.

48:05Chris Black:I think Bradley Cooper will come out.

48:08Jason Stewart:You think so?

48:09Chris Black:Who do you think will come out first? Pedro Pascal or Bradley Cooper?

48:12Jason Stewart:okay this is a poly market right here let's get the money up um who's gonna come out first i mean

48:18Chris Black:come out i mean come out in a traditional nice way not like they got busted leaving a hotel like in the way we're like oh they go on t they go on fucking 60 minutes and do it you know what i mean

48:29Jason Stewart:like real shit you want you want so i did a thing and it's you and your husband that you've been hiding getting married in vegas you want you want the ig post you don't want the photo taken from a drone of you yeah hugging a guy from behind on a yacht at a coachella after yeah yeah i don't want

48:47Chris Black:a david i don't want a david geffen style yacht photo i don't want a 16 bit pixelated photo of you

48:54Jason Stewart:touching a guy's arm i need insertion um i think i think it's gonna be pedro i think bradley would have done it by now he's he's come so close he's edging he's gooning his his go coming out is that a thing that people are going to do now are they going to goon their closet departure where they're like oh now he's playing andrew lloyd weber okay that's a thing that straight people do sometimes

49:22Chris Black:oh okay milk too all right i guess well yeah okay congratulations i think that i think that we're lucky enough to to know a lot of gay people who uh were able to be out and proud at a young age, you know, because of, for whatever reason, their confidence, the way that their parents made them feel, whatever it may be. You know what I mean? Like, I think we, I think we, obviously there's, there's, there's both sides of this. I think that, I think that Bradley Cooper, I agree with you. I think he would have come out already if he was going to come out. And I think he's powerful enough to keep people quiet.

49:59Chris Black:I think Pedro Pascal is going to be pushed out. And as much as I want that, I do feel like it's unfair.

50:04Jason Stewart:Mm-hmm. Also, I just Googled if Andrew Lloyd Webber is gay, and it says he's not. So now - Hey, Rock Hudson's not gay either. Yeah, I mean, so all that is to say, why are we wasting our time with these Pascals and Coopers when this guy's been needing to come out since the 60s?

50:22Chris Black:Because I think that it's also now - I think in the 60s, the vibe was like, this will kill your career. you will be exiled and now I feel like even if you're Pedro Pascal at this point

50:37Jason Stewart:I make musicals and they're like still

50:39Chris Black:I think it would help Pedro Pascal at this point I don't think anybody at a certain point I just think things are like I don't know who you're fooling

50:48Jason Stewart:I was talking about this last night with a friend at dinner about some people we don't know what happened to them as a kid or their generational trauma or whatever reason for sure just not able to come out and do it and we we just have to respect that we do have no of course i love to speculate because it's funny you have to respect it chris stop but i i do i do agree like i just want george santos to finally come out you know wait george santos isn't out of the closet he was he was talking about how he wears blush i mean i guess that's just makeup

51:24Chris Black:I guess that doesn't say shit these days.

51:26Jason Stewart:I think he's officially out now, but he was trying to hide the fact. I don't know if, oh, no, never mind. He was always openly gay, but I think he was trying to hide the fact that he was like a drag queen in South America and blah, blah, blah, blah.

51:43Chris Black:Yeah, he was wearing like Cindy Sherman makeup. Like he looked crazy. Motherfucker looks crazy.

51:48Jason Stewart:Okay, so Trump just pardoned him. Who do you think is, you know, not to go polymarket again diddy or guillant who is trump going to pardon next and will anyone even

52:00Chris Black:care i gotta say diddy just because it's more high profile at this point i think that he doesn't want anything epstein related he doesn't want to be involved in at all trump's like look he was only

52:10Jason Stewart:trafficking adults guillant was doing the children yeah he gotta do one or the other he will find a

52:15Chris Black:way to justify it that's for sure but i i think that it's it's i if i'm him um and god bless us If I'm him, I'm washing my hands. I don't talk about the list. I don't talk about Ghislaine. I don't talk about that shit at all. But Diddy, I think it would be positive, the result for him, if he pardoned Diddy.

52:36Jason Stewart:He has like four years, right?

52:39Chris Black:Yeah. It's not that crazy.

52:41Jason Stewart:So he'll get out in two and a half or two. That's enough time for the world to move on. And Diddy could truly turn his life around. He can get his ass whooped enough times behind the prison bars to really, truly change and become a better person. And he might actually end up doing some good in the world. Oh, I don't think that.

53:02Chris Black:I don't think that. I think not at all. I think what it is more is that Trump obviously is, even if he doesn't run again, I think he's desperate enough for approval that he wants the black community behind him. and I think that Diddy, as problematic as he is, I think he could still garner that support for Trump.

53:24Jason Stewart:Yeah, but if you're a pro-Diddy, if you're a free-Diddy person, you're not voting anyway. You know what I mean?

53:30Chris Black:Here's the thing, Jason. Once he's out, everybody's a free-Diddy person, if you get what I'm saying. Once he's pardoned, it's over. That's it. We're listening to his music again. He's playing shows. He's going to run the New York Marathon for charity. Biggie might be alive.

53:46Jason Stewart:again you know what i'm gonna do he's gonna do the biggie hologram biggie tupac reunion hologram

53:51Chris Black:at the sphere that's not a bad idea i'm saying i really think i think that once once you are free and you're active again especially that nobody cares like if it's our manual on the horn let's try to lock this up if if r kelly was not in jail right now and he had been pardoned it would be like nothing ever happened that's just the sad reality of it that's a hot i i

54:13Jason Stewart:believe that wouldn't that be cool if everyone's like all the all the ditty pardon rumors are floating around trump out of nowhere from three fuck it pardon r kelly it wasn't even part of

54:25Chris Black:the convo boom he's out well he's got he's just too good of a singer he's got to book someone for the east wing opening the ballroom so it could be if kid if bob richie's not available yeah trump's

54:36Jason Stewart:gonna be like yeah i'll let you out on one condition and then just smash cut to him singing I believe I can fly for the 17th time while Trump shoots at the ground beneath him and needs to keep tap dancing.

54:49Chris Black:That's real. That's not out of the, this is what you're saying feels crazy, but it's not that crazy. It's not that, it's not that out of the question based on what we've seen throughout the years. But I, I, I don't, once you get pardoned, everyone forgives you. And I think it's, I don't think that's true. Oh, it's true. Well, I'm saying that enough, enough people where your legacy is much less tarnished. Not everyone, of course, but I mean, like, I think if R. Kelly was pardoned and making new music and touring, he would be doing Chris Brown numbers overnight.

55:21Jason Stewart:Yeah, but I mean, you know, like Jared Leto walks free, but everyone knows that he shouldn't. You know what I mean? Yeah, but that's the difference.

55:29Chris Black:Once your dirty laundry is out there and then you've been, for lack of a term, forgiven for it, it's different than it being sort of just like a known secret forever.

55:40Jason Stewart:Yeah, but whoever is doing the forgiving matters, I feel like. You know, if Trump is the one who's doing it, it carries much less weight than if Obama did it or whoever.

55:49Chris Black:No, that's 100%. That's absolutely true. I mean, Trump can be bought like all great politicians. And so that, yeah, of course, everybody knows what the deal is. But I would love to see Robert Kelly opening the new ballroom at the White House. Construction's going to take a while, so we got some time to work on the paperwork.

56:11Jason Stewart:yeah enough time to work on the paperwork you know it's a lot of paperwork we're gonna do something about that um lastly question for you it's a lot of paperwork he's like one thing that's his like stand-up routine like what is the deal with all these uh pardoning paperwork every time you pardon so much serial rapist oh the docusign okay okay so this is this some local regional tj stuff i want to ask you a question a couple days ago there was a white tesla parked in front of my house just a random car parked there i hadn't seen him before new vehicle to the street i got my neighborhood watch tj binoculars on you know i'm looking at it i'm going out there i'm walking the dog i'm taking a look i'm watering the plants i'm taking a look then like two days ago i see the car pull in like whatever somebody parked there a few days ago drove away in the morning early in the morning like 6 a.m i saw the car pull up in front of my house again stay there for like five minutes drive away and then later on that day maybe like 6 p.m i see the car pull up and it now has a huge dent in the front right side of it and i'm like okay that's interesting and then the car again sits there for five minutes drives away and then yesterday i wake up in the morning the car is now parked in front of my house every window is rolled down the car is completely empty the whole the front right side of it is all smashed up and all shitty the car looks to be abandoned not you know in a david r &b i was about

57:58Chris Black:I was about to say, where the fuck is David? Have you looked for a body?

58:01Jason Stewart:I might go in there and open the frunk in case there's a child in there.

58:05Chris Black:Just listen for any pounding noises next time you walk by just to make sure there's nobody in there.

58:10Jason Stewart:So the question is, how long do I give it?

58:14Chris Black:I don't want to be a narc. What I like about this is that Teslas used to be considered nice cars. This would be an Ultima or a Sentra. Now it's a burner car. Or a Civic. Now it's like, oh, I don't know. I robbed a bank with this shit and crashed. Just shut my dude some dirt in. Left in front of Jason's house. It's great. You can just hose the blood off. It's fine. The seats are plastic. It's not leather. How long has it been there with the windows down in the deck?

58:39Jason Stewart:We are on day two of Tesla in front of my house, all smashed up, all four windows open. It's not good. I don't want to, you know, we've all had, you and I have had our cars impounded. there's been some you know forgot to pay this got caught riding dirty blah blah blah sure these things happen i don't want to knock somebody out when they're at a clearly a low low point in their life if you're abandoning cars things aren't going well for you in your life no this is but also bad you know it's a potential crime scene how long do i give it before i call non-emergency police i think you got to give it i think you should what's the narc window when does the narc window close i got

59:24Chris Black:to give it a full week personally just because i'm i'm so adverse to narking i might never call if it was up to me honestly but i guess if you can you see it from your window are you like you

59:33Jason Stewart:have to see it yeah no it's directly in front of my house i see it every day okay here's the okay if i if i give tesla driver if i give david a week there's going to be compounding interest which means every night maybe the sprinklers go off you know what i mean i think maybe maybe i'm watering the the lawn and maybe some of the hose gets inside the car what do you think h-o-s-e i'm

59:59Chris Black:not gonna flood it yeah i think that's a fine idea i just think it i think if you give it i feel like it will someone will come get it but this is i want to keep an eye on it i want you to keep an eye on okay we'll monitor the situation i'm not gonna i'm not gonna call no one yeah don't don't start narcing yet also there's a there's a there's a possibility that one of your other more narcy neighbors could do it for you so you don't have to that is true before you before you

1:00:20Jason Stewart:have a chance that is true we i got a couple narcs in here shout out bob i know you're listening thanks um shout out paul paul but the the last thing that i haven't considered or that i'm just considering now since the car is parked in front of my house do all my neighbors think that this is like my weird drug addict friend who's staying with me for a while and they think this car is

1:00:42Chris Black:attached to me in my home i don't think you've done any anything to that would lead them to believe that historically as a neighbor you know what i mean i am the bad boy of glendale so you never know you are the bad yeah you yeah you're known as the bad boy of glendale but i don't think

1:00:58Jason Stewart:that your neighbors would suspect only white boy with a g pass here that's not easy i think it's

1:01:03Chris Black:called an a pass there for armenian but i i see what you mean i have them i have both passes before we go clear and preach i've been worked at working out next to an armenian guy at the gym an older guy and he wears a beanie and smells like cigarettes and it's just so sick it's it's it's a really it honestly reminds me of you i'm like damn this this warms my heart this guy's getting

1:01:22Jason Stewart:it in great he can just get deadlift more than anyone in the gym without even warming up yeah

1:01:28Chris Black:he doesn't have to try for sure uh all right how long gone thank you guys for listening we'll be back later this week with more podcasts uh we appreciate you listening and uh i'll talk to you

1:01:58Jason Stewart:I'll see you soon.

From the publisher

One-on-one pod today, Chris is almost out of Florida, and Jason is home in Glendale. We chat about the decline of "today's office" posting, Bieber's World Series look, Chris somehow has a Greyhound story, Vogue World, and the rise of celebrity outsourcing, Jason is activating at Gelson's Market, ear infections, college football players wearing Chrome Hearts on the field, we do Polymarket predictions on closeted actors and Presidential pardons, and Jason has a neighborhood narc conundrum.

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