In short
The episode is a wide-ranging conversation that pivots into “physical therapy” as a theme, but most of the discussion centers on travel/airport logistics, New York politics and voting culture, Ridgewood gentrification and restaurant talk, record collecting and pricing at estate sales, and DJ software—especially Rekordbox—plus a guest’s music project.
Guests
Daniel (the main guest). He’s a Ridgewood-based DJ/collector type who runs or is involved with a record-selling workflow (mentions grading/posting records for an online seller). He also has a musical project called “Car Culture” and uses he/him pronouns.
Key claims
Ridgewood’s restaurant scene has rapidly gentrified; restaurant merch is oversaturated; Rekordbox updates can wipe USBs/playlists and disrupt DJ sets; estate-sale record value comes from sorting “trash” for rare dance/obscure items; DJing live is more work and pays less than DJing.
Notable examples
One Hotel Brooklyn stairwell “lawless” vibe; “rollo’s” as a gentrification anchor; finding an $800 disco/punk 7-inch; Rekordbox update wiping music/playlist data; DJing on Denon CDJs vs Pioneer CDJs.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOExploring the Founder Lounge
0:30 to 3:58
Discussion about the experience in a founder lounge and reflections on hotel staircases.
Layovers and Travel Efficiency
3:58 to 5:15
Conversation about layover experiences and the challenges of airport travel.
“Well, I think we might be sleeping on Salt Lake City.”
Political Commentary on Election Day
5:15 to 7:26
Discussion on the political landscape and implications of election day events.
“I keep hearing about this, and luckily, because I flew out of Newark and I was worried I was going to be affected, but luckily everything was fine.”
Cultural Observations on Voting
7:26 to 9:06
Humorous take on the voting process and the social implications of voting stickers.
“Like unless it's your OF, like they already are with you on that.”
Reflections on Dick Cheney
9:06 to 10:28
Discussion on Dick Cheney's legacy and reactions to his passing.
“November 4 rolls around, you pull it out of the closet.”
Upcoming GQ Event Preview
10:28 to 12:27
Preview of the upcoming GQ Man of the Year event and discussions about celebrities.
“64 % Rotten Tomatoes, exactly what you need.”
Introducing the Guest: Big Physical Therapy
12:27 to 13:33
Introduction of the guest and his new musical project, Car Culture.
“Yeah, if I was called a great white by Joe and Ish and Ice, I think they were commenting on Sidney's heaving chest, but they were basically, Joe was acting like that was light work.”
Intro to the Episode and KKK Reference
14:01 to 14:17
A lighthearted introduction involving a KKK joke and a call to connect with Daniel.
“I'd be a little close to KKK at that point.”
Intro to the Episode and KKK Reference
14:22 to 15:23
A lighthearted introduction involving a KKK joke and a call to connect with Daniel.
“Jason, I spend every waking minute of my day surfing the World Wide Web.”
Intro to the Episode and KKK Reference
15:36 to 16:55
A lighthearted introduction involving a KKK joke and a call to connect with Daniel.
“Every time I go to the regular doctor, I leave dumber than I came in.”
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Intro to the Episode and KKK Reference
17:15 to 18:16
A lighthearted introduction involving a KKK joke and a call to connect with Daniel.
“Make sure who you're traveling with or hanging out with all summer is all good too.”
Exploring Ridgewood
18:16 to 18:48
Discussion about Ridgewood, its restaurants, and gentrification.
“All right, Dan, you're coming to us from the lab, and I want to know how deep in Ridgewood are we?”
Dining Experiences in Ridgewood
18:48 to 22:27
The hosts share their recent dining experiences and opinions on local cuisine.
“Until you open a this bowl, there's no real reason for him to shoot over there.”
Restaurant Merch and Branding
22:27 to 23:36
The conversation shifts to restaurant merchandising and its cultural implications.
“But for some reason it has hit an extreme saturation point, like nothing we've ever seen before.”
SNL and Pop Culture Commentary
23:36 to 27:17
Discussion on SNL, Brandi Carlile, and observations on pop culture.
“That's something you don't hear Zoran talking about at all.”
Entertainment Industry Insights
27:17 to 28:00
The hosts analyze trends in the entertainment industry and SNL casting.
“When you say the name, I keep hearing Vanessa Carlton's music in my head.”
SNL Cast Dynamics
28:00 to 31:42
Discussion about the dynamics of new cast members on SNL and their potential for success.
“They had to represent, but they brought in...”
Dental Experiences
31:42 to 33:12
A humorous recounting of a dental visit and the interactions with the hygienist.
Collecting Records
33:12 to 36:33
Exploration of collecting vinyl records and the intricacies of the marketplace.
“I mean, I've had, you know, it's a lot of sorting through trash, but I find it fun.”
DJ Software and Challenges
36:33 to 41:55
A detailed discussion about DJ software, particularly RecordBox, and the challenges it presents.
“If you get laid, fast forward 10 minutes, guys.”
DJ Software and Challenges
42:00 to 42:30
A detailed discussion about DJ software, particularly RecordBox, and the challenges it presents.
“Pros trust the Home Depot for heavy-duty storage solutions for any job site or garage.”
DJ Skills and Vinyl Culture
43:03 to 43:52
Explore the ease and complexities faced by DJs in live settings.
Software Challenges in DJing
43:53 to 45:14
Discuss the difficulties with DJ software and industry standards.
Community and Online Presence
45:15 to 46:04
Examine the nature of online communities and the impact on DJs.
DJ Lifestyle and Work-Life Balance
46:05 to 47:19
Hear about the challenges of being a DJ and balancing personal life.
Transitioning to Live Performance
47:20 to 48:33
Understand the shift from DJing to performing live music.
Creating Unique Music Experiences
48:34 to 49:46
Discover the process of crafting music for emotional resonance.
Changing Perceptions of DJing
49:47 to 51:12
Discuss how the perception of DJing has evolved over the years.
“But this style of music, to me, is reminiscent of a time where maybe, you know, Bill Clinton was in office or, you know, early George Dubb.”
Musical Opinions and Preferences
51:13 to 52:36
Explore the diverse opinions on music within the industry.
Instruments and Musical Skills
52:37 to 54:09
Learn about the various musical instruments used by the hosts.
“I thought you were only into your little weird basement stuff.”
Upcoming DJ Performances
54:10 to 56:00
Get insights into upcoming DJ gigs and performance details.
“Oh, so what instruments can you play then?”
Upcoming Performance at Space
56:00 to 58:09
The hosts discuss an upcoming performance at Space in Miami and its venue details.
“Like some people, some people can eat two cookies out of the bag.”
Equipment Investment for Live Shows
58:10 to 1:00:03
Discussion about the financial aspects of live performances and investment in equipment.
“How much, how much money do you think you're going to lose on this?”
Rock Influences and Current Trends
1:00:04 to 1:02:09
The hosts talk about their rock influences and the current trends in music.
Discussions on AI and Music
1:02:10 to 1:04:06
The hosts dive into a conversation about the impact of AI in music creation and their personal experiences.
Dining Experiences and Restaurant Anecdotes
1:04:07 to 1:06:03
A lighthearted chat about dining experiences and a specific restaurant in Brooklyn.
“And she was like, I want the gnocchi, but I want to see if they'll put chicken in it.”
Dieting Strategies and Intuitive Eating
1:06:04 to 1:09:12
The hosts discuss dieting strategies, intuitive eating, and their personal eating habits.
“And I was like, if I had ordered that, he would have screamed at me.”
Album Release and Future Plans
1:09:13 to 1:10:02
The conversation wraps up with details about an album release and upcoming tour dates.
Album Release and Tour Plans
1:10:02 to 1:12:01
Learn about the new album release and upcoming tour dates.
Album Release and Tour Plans
1:12:30 to 1:12:50
Learn about the new album release and upcoming tour dates.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00This podcast features unknown host and Daniel.
0:30Daniel:this is i think you'd have something for me you got something yay for me yeah you look uh you're in a founder lounge of some sort is this what's going on i'm always in the founder lounge that's actually for for american express card holder no yeah i'm i'm in i'm in what you yeah you could call it a founder lounge i guess but it's a beautiful i'm like pretty high up so i'm looking at the at the water it's it's quite nice here today and yesterday i got here yesterday it was it was very nice so you're high up living high on the hog how many floors up is peter teal's office once you're finally there peter well you gotta you gotta work your way up if you know what i'm saying so you know 20 20 floors maybe maybe 25 i think not not something not super crazy but peter peter was nice enough to let me take the stairs and not the elevator so i got i was warmed up when i got here i had to take the stairs at the one hotel in brooklyn because oh yeah their elevator doesn't work unless you want to use the one that takes you to the rooftop where they have all gender trough bathrooms yeah so awesome there i forgot about that was it okay was it a situation though where you taking it to the roof and walking down would be faster than walking you know what i'm saying like that's a tough that's a tough call we were only staying on the third floor so it wasn't bad it was better for you it was better for you that's fine yeah third floor i can make it i lived like that i went to kobe's apartment it was like a three-floor walk up and i was like i'm having memories fam i was the memories were rushing back to me it i like it because it you you earn your your kind of couch sit you know what i'm saying you really feel like right before you're about to eat 138 worth of thai food that some guy just delivered on a bicycle in the middle of a snow storm you're gonna get you're gonna get your three flights in you're gonna get your zone two cardio for what almost a minute it's gonna be dope at least a minimum a minute but i like i like the hotel back corridor stairways because it's like you'll be in a beautiful expensive hotel room where everything is considered and then the hallway staircase thing you know it's it's giving chernobyl it doesn't matter if it's a new building or an old building and uh it feels it feels lawless in there you know what i mean graffiti is welcome there's No security cameras.
2:48Daniel:Graffiti welcome. I can slam whatever I want. All my slammables are welcome. That's true. I know what you mean. Those stairwells are kind of forgotten, lost. Get a little piece of head back there. Hey, shorty, come into the staircase. If you walk into the staircase, someone's getting some head in there, it's your fault. It's not theirs. What are you doing in here? Get out of here. Hey, what are you looking at? Get on out of here now. uh yeah i'm i don't i uh this flight was a little last minute and very costly so i had some i had a layover yesterday and a layover tomorrow when i head back and i have to say as a as a person who loves efficiency the layover kills me but taking a little break to get like a coffee is is kind of nice i kind of like i didn't mind stretching my legs damn this motherfucker is trying to work out his new GQ need to pull.
3:42He's like, let's take a second look at Leo. Recession indicator ass.
3:46Daniel:I've already done that when I took a shower at the lounge. I had to read about how Soho House is good again. I think that's as far as we can go, bro. We can't do... We're sleeping on Salt Lake City. Well, I think we might be sleeping on Salt Lake City. That's a separate... I didn't get to explore yesterday, but based on the Mormon soda trends, I think there's something for you to explore there as well. Mormon soda? yeah Mormons you know because they can't drink they they have these crazy they could only kill no they have like a soda they have like soda restaurants that are like 50 kinds of soda and you mix them and it's a whole thing because they can't they can't they have nothing else they can't have sex they can't drink of course they like soda fountain bars they're 12 yeah no it's it's a pretty cool spiritually it's a cool trend i mean i see it on tiktok i don't have to go to salt lake but i i i guess what those guys are having fun i always i obviously hate to get on and off and have to rush but when it's timed right it felt good is what i'm saying because usually you have to as we've said before in this podcast men can't run in the airport no um that's that's that's worse than having a shopping cart you can glide you can i guess i can i can appreciate a well-oiled mac and the machinations of a well-oiled perfect flight plan more difficult to pull off now as we enter, you know, day 40 of the government shutdown and, you know, all of our essential workers at the airport are dropping like flies now that they're on week four of zero pay.
5:15Daniel:I keep hearing about this. Just for the squad. I keep hearing about this, and luckily, because I flew out of Newark and I was worried I was going to be affected, but luckily everything was fine. But, again, if you leave at 545 a.m., somebody's going to be there. I mean, speaking of, rest in peace to Reverend Dick Cheney. uh one of the one of the worst of all time he passed away today and you know in new york it's election day and you know maybach zo is looking like the is looking like the the leader his old grinning ass is it looks like he's going to take this thing and i tell you what i i would hate to be a ipa in brooklyn tonight if he wins because it ain't it ain't going down it's it's going to be whatever the opposite of riding in the streets is is what's going to happen like what do you think calm sort of conversation over cocktails is how how you celebrate i think we're going to gather a bunch of tea teachers with sweatpants on that have stained some house shoes there's going to be the new york yankees hat but it'll be hand embroidered to work in the word a cab some somewhere on it and then on the back of the hat that was made by a female of course the uh the back of the hat will let it what let the other people know what their job is so it'll it'll say teacher or you know something like that and then of course everyone will be wearing a mask do you think you have a sticker with your pronouns or is that is that too far because i feel like if you have the mask if you go if you go lorenz mode you might as well put a sticker on with your pronouns and full name that's one of the things that they didn't tell you that that uh that maybach zo snuck in there part of the socialist regime pronouns are out that's just it's just socialist only maybe Zoe's looking a little better.
6:55Daniel:I mean, look, I wonder. Well, yo, what's your Zoe now? Hey, what's your real name? Not your Muslim name. Stop, dude. My Zoe nouns I identify as. My Zoe nouns? Oh, God. I can't think of. Yeah, my Zoe nouns are Bira Yanni. Oh, I just, I think that these people are going to be, like every day is a hard day on the internet you know but today is is the the stickers and the posting and the you know hot girls for zohan and it's like let's let's just just go vote if you want to if you want to vote if that's something that's important to you then absolutely go cast your ballot and and feel good about it and that's fine you don't need to like anything beyond that That is also like when you're posting the selfie, the hot girls for Zoran, baby T, like your followers are already, come on.
7:55Daniel:Like unless it's your OF, like they already are with you on that. You're preaching to the quad. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, they're not going. Yeah, they're not going. Have you ever worn the I voted sticker to get some pussy? I've never worn I voted sticker my entire life. You ever voted into some pussy? I think, I mean, there's plenty of people. I might whoopsie daisy fuck around and voted my way into some dick tonight. I voted backwards into some dick tonight. I think that there is that element. I mean, that's the performative male. I feel like there's like a 14 % chance that I've - You definitely have.
8:28Depending on where I was going, I have donned the I voted sticker just to increase the chance.
8:34Daniel:I don't blame anybody for doing that. I think more power to you. I think that's the best reason to wear that sticker. It's performance enhancing drug when it's zero fatalities, zero casualties. I've seen people posting a stack of stickers. They took extra. And I'm like, what are you going to do with your Halloween one of one? I don't know what you're going to do with spooky bitches for Zover. What are you going to do with that? You go on Amazon, you buy the roll, and then you never have to buy another sticker again. Just every year. Good point. November 4 rolls around, you pull it out of the closet.
9:09Daniel:It's like when you could buy the COVID vaccination cards on the black market. If you need a I voted sticker, I got you for 100. Just give me one blue face. And by the way, if anyone still needs the COVID cards, let me know. I got people's. You know what I'm saying? We can drive down to the valley right now. I can get you 100. No questions asked. It seems like when we were younger, Dick Cheney, former vice president and architect of 9-11, and he was a big deal and now him dying on election day, I think he's going to get really swept under the rug headline-wise. I already saw some. Drudge is going to give him 45 minutes on the top and then adios.
9:51Daniel:That post ain't sticky. That post ain't sticky. I think that I already saw, I already saw, and I don't know if this was actually produced or just as a Photoshop job, but there was like a, I was in whatever. I was in New York City on November 4th when Zohan got elected and Dick Cheney died. And I'm like, the person who would wear that shirt is the person I want to be around the absolute least on planet Earth. And look, Dick Cheney's the gum on the bottom of my shoe. Don't get me wrong. But, you know, I just don't know. Like, the guy's old. He's dead. But you're right. He's not winning this one.
10:27Daniel:This is going to be a tough day for him. This is what celebrities pray for. What was the movie? It was called Dick. It was like 15 years ago, right? Yeah, it was Adam McKay. Got destroyed. I think I saw that in the theater. It's called Vice. What a plain movie that is. Great plain movie. No, I've seen that. 64 % Rotten Tomatoes, exactly what you need. I've seen that. I've seen that movie before. And rest in peace to Big Dick. He had a nice life, you know. Besides the last 30 years when he shot. Who did he shoot? I forgot who he shot. Remember that? Yeah, it was a quote unquote hunting accident.
10:58He shot a little friendly fire. One of the homies, yeah.
11:01Daniel:I hate when I shoot the homie. That's like Otani's translator taking the fall for his gambling. Like Cheney's guy was like, all right, bro, fuck it. I'll take it. I'll take the L. I'll say it was an accident. The ultimate power move. The ultimate power move. You know I almost killed you with a gun, but we don't need to do anything about that. You're good. We don't got to talk about this again, do we? This can kind of stay between us. It's very mafioso-y. Very mafioso-y. Yeah, let's see what else we got. I guess we have in nine days GQ's Man of the Year. The live stream is going to be going down, hosted by Chris and I and Quenlyn Blackwell.
11:41It's going to be a blast. Tune in live on YouTube, 7 p.m. PT.
11:47Daniel:Yeah, I don't know. A lot of celebs in the mix. Yeah, a lot of celebs. I can't wait to confront a lot of these people. We got Hayley Bieber. Hayley Bieber. Hayley Bieber and Sidney Sweeney. I'm flipping a quarter. I don't know. I don't think we're allowed to talk to either of them. It's for the best for everyone else. Yeah. They want us to talk to Seth Rogen and Stephen Colbert. And that's fine. I'm fine with that. Like put me in my corner. Put me where I belong. But yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I'm excited. And I think it's going to be fun. And I think that the setting will be nice. At the Chateau?
12:19Right across the street from the on-air kiosk? Wow, what a place.
12:22Daniel:What a place. Do you know where the Chateau Marmont is? Yeah, it's actually right across the street from the on-air kiosk. that's a good let's let's let's kind of change the narrative around that around the positioning here um yeah it'll be it'll be fun people are uh these covers i mean sydney sweeney's been everywhere i mean when joe budden makes her her the cover art of his podcast that's why that's what we call white excellence what did what did they what did how did they mention they call them great what they call them on joe budden when somebody white is cool they call them a great white a great white um so That is your number one for your life.
12:57Daniel:Yeah, if I was called a great white by Joe and Ish and Ice, I think they were commenting on Sidney's heaving chest, but they were basically, Joe was acting like that was light work. Joe was like, yeah, I mean, you know. He said them titties is aite? Yeah, he said he liked it, but he wasn't super crazy about it. Wow, he's so cool, he's so different. They did talk about it for 20 minutes on the podcast. Love a 45-year-old bald guy negging Sidney Sweeney over Spotify. He's talking about Sidney Sweeney looking hot in his rude sweats that have like dog hair on them. All right, we got a guest today.
13:32Daniel:Big physical therapy is in the building. You might know him by his government name. I'm not going to out him like that. His pronouns are he, him. And it looks like he's coming to us from the – Jason, is this a lab we're seeing? It looks like a techno lab. And he's on because we're going to talk about his new musical project, Car Culture. You know, I already got the hat right here. The hat's really nice. King of hats. King of hats. Oh, good. It's spelled with a C. I was worried you'd went Kardashian mode to freak it. Ooh, culture. Okay. I'd be a little close to KKK at that point. It would be a little.
14:06Okay. That's a good point. Let's give Daniel a call. You thought of everything. You thought of everything. Chiming in really quick on the intro to mention the KKK again. I think you did that on the first time you were on the pod. Anyway, let's give him a call.
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18:21Daniel:All right, Dan, you're coming to us from the lab, and I want to know how deep in Ridgewood are we? Or is this in a neighborhood I've never even heard of yet? I'm in Ridgewood. I really wanted to ask you, like, have you been to Ridgewood? I don't think so, because why would I? Like, what is there for me there? You know what I mean? Unless you want me to get on a track, we can talk, obviously. But otherwise, is there a restaurant? Until you open a this bowl, there's no real reason for him to shoot over there. Exactly. Well, because the gentrification in the neighborhood has been like in psycho lightning speed in the last two years.
18:59Daniel:And now there's all these like restaurant people come here from Manhattan. I was out on a date the other day. Period. We're walking around Ridgewood. I'm thinking we'll just go walk into a restaurant, multiple restaurants, two hour waits. Wow, you thought. dude so you and your date ended up what getting a slice getting a quick deli sandwich what'd you do no we went to a new gentrified uh polish place called pierogi boys they're gentrifying the polish homies now too dude a pierogi pierogi is the last thing i want to eat if it's traditional or not especially on a date you know you talk you talk about panty droppers you know you've got the shape panice you have a nice omakase meal what did you hold on what but but pierogi boys the pierogi food truck elevated polish it's a surefire thing elevated all right so what is short what what but hold on what is when when you when shorty is confronted with pierogies for dinner on a date what does she go is there a salad do they have those in poland or did she have to just go whatever we had there was like a you know a beet salad we had the pierogi the schnitzel was good the pickle the pickle martini was not bad the pickle martini okay you're making excuses for ridgewood and i respect it because you're saying you're an early gentrifier but now it's getting worse i'm an early gentrifier i'm a medium gentrifier but yeah okay so but i i don't understand is is there one restaurant that's good isn't there like one place okay the restaurant that started the current wave of gentrification is called rollo's that's i've heard of this and it was at a point maybe my favorite restaurant in new york wow okay neighborhood guy what what would actually somebody on instagram told me i need to go to rollo's the next time i'm in town hold on so how long if all right let's say let's say i live downtown manhattan how long is it taking me to get a ridge get to ridgewood let's and be honest don't give me no bullshit if you're off the m you can do it in 35 40 minutes one train no transfers i'm not off the m so what are my other options uh the l how long is a car how long is a car when you're coming out from one of your little late night dj sets the same 30 40 minutes okay that's not that bad actually i thought it was further than that i thought it was further than that it feels further because it feels like the suburbs but it's not okay but now you're saying you can walk around and see hotties and get a cortado oh there's multiple cortados here it's happening because it used to be there would be these kind of like old school gentrification places where it would be like a sandwich place or a coffee shop but the coffee and the sandwich would be bad yeah yeah like sprouts hit ridgewood like you know five years ago sprouts the market or the the produce item the produce item that was big like 15 years ago well if you're a real head sprouts never left just to let jason jason and i are on the record as sprouts lovers i like them doesn't sound like you like him danny boy what's up i'm just saying they represent a kind of like old school you know fair fair no they now things have jumped ahead so if i go to rollo's if i go to rollo's and i take a 30 minute train ride and then wait two hours at rollo's what's the what's what's the must-have dish that i've just wasted my entire night to get you gotta get the beet salad chris what's the what's the rollo's hit okay well i will say the the last couple times i went there it was a little bit it wasn't oh as good as it was but it used to be like the big green salad was amazing now that now you're you are speaking my language i had i went to i did go to shape panice last night we did order four salads so i i am that's kind of my main menu item pause and their pastas were crazy like good drinks menu they make this polenta bread that you could get with mortadella or it's good it's kind of that like new new american italian fusion that all restaurants are and did they make hats or tote bags they definitely made hats and tote bags yep that's that's that's the beginning of the end then that we all know that the only people who have more merch than musicians now are restaurants yeah it's it's kind of crazy it's the only way you can make money in or as a restaurant now merch with musician i mean that's like part of the history of music and how bands put gas in the van.
23:15Daniel:So in my mind, it's totally fine. And for restaurants, it's fine too. But for some reason it has hit an extreme saturation point, like nothing we've ever seen before. Yeah. It used to be fun if you were like in Tennessee and you're like, I got a rib place and you've got the shirt that said like Buck's rib hut or something. You'd be like, you know, but it's like, do I need to buy a shirt from a restaurant in Soho? Like, no, I'm not going to get that. I'm not. Yeah. I'm not going to, i'm not gonna get the rollo's camo hat to wear yeah the restaurant merch has to be authentic real merch it has to be like made by you know a dad that owns the sandwich shop and it's just a generic design on a regular shirt and it just looks different and odd and wrong in the perfect way and then as soon as you start having somebody duplicate that in figma all the juices squeeze out of it it just looks like pussy boy shit that's like do you remember when like abercrombie and fitch or whatever would have like fake vintage t-shirts when we were kids of course and they would also sometimes be like a little bit racist they were embroidered somehow so they did cost a hundred dollars it was a little more high-end product but every everyone would i mean they were just copying the goatees and the and the mcqueens and everyone who was doing all of that down the trickle down destruction of the late 90s fashion.
24:38Daniel:That's something you don't hear Zoran talking about at all. Do you Jason? Exactly. Speaking of merch on the train today I saw a guy he had a camo Zoran hat in a metal like illegible metal font like black metal Zoran on the camo hat. How do people I honestly want to get inside the brain of someone that's that uncool and just see what it's like in there like how do you get how do you get there like what's they would be the first to say you don't want to be up in here that's true yeah you don't want to see what that guy's jacking off to because it ain't going to be fun taking taking the train is the best i mean it's the best way to see anything to enrage or delight and that's the beauty of the new york public transportation system i think i saw you did a video with tom yeah uh from id do you remember when he used to do the shoe reviews oh yeah on the yeah i do that was the best content well i mean it was it was it was victimless because you know people people get their like lives ruined if they post someone's like face on instagram like if you're if somebody does something wrong to the gym and you video them it comes back to you but a cooked air force one on the the f train victimless victimless crime do you think anyone has ever like the shoe has been so specifically bad that they're like i thought you said you're out of town on a work meeting how come this was posted on the subway i know you're fucking cooked ass jordan's these exact shoes and you know it's very possible you get caught cheating because of the shoe review yeah exactly i know you're steve madden's don't give me don't get it twisted i know you're you ain't supposed to be in that burrow because my shit's 101 so if you flick up my shit and put on instagram stories they're gonna say like who else has this shoe search results zero found that's why you gotta have your cheating shoes you know hey babe where are my cheating shoes oh no i keep my keep my square toe cheating shoes in the car just like in the trunk on the low like in the where the spare tire goes yeah fellas every once in a while wear your cheating shoes around your wife that'll throw her off the sand cheating shoes is so funny i know it sounds weird stick with me on this stick with me on this I was just watching I was watching SNL last night And it was really bad Miles Teller and Brandi Carlile Nobody likes Brandi Carlile We gotta talk about that psyop Lesbians do though I think lesbians only like her Because she's a lesbian And they want to see her succeed But I don't think they listen to it In their new Bronco She's saying fat girls don't like listening to Lizzo But she's there so we gotta do it kind of thing I just really don't think Brandy Carlisle feels like a Grammy board plant that exists only to win awards.
27:16She was generating a lab to collaborate with Elton John at a certain point when he needs some help. Sorry, Daniel, go ahead. We're chatting over you.
27:23Daniel:When you say the name, I keep hearing Vanessa Carlton's music in my head. Well, that's good music. So there's a difference. Well, I think Belinda Carlisle whenever I hear Brandy Carlisle because it's almost the same exact two female musicians. Maybe both lesbians. If you talk to anybody in the Americana or folk space, they will have something to say or say nothing at all about Brandi Carlisle in a way that is very, very telling. Is she the Steve Aoki of lesbian folk? People say that. You're not the first. But Brandi's not throwing cakes. What's she throwing? Clams? She's throwing clam. Her and St.
28:01Daniel:Vincent throwing clam up there. Chowder. Who's getting chowdered in the face? well i i was all that is to say i was watching it uh and the intro where they have the new you know where they have the cast members and they go and announce all the members on snl and whenever there's new people on the season a bunch of new people and you can almost tell who's gonna make it and who's not just by their name like they have to have a funny name no no just it's there's no rhyme or reason to it no way to explain it but it's just like like pornography you know when you see it like you see a name and you're like that person is not going to make it in the entertainment industry i mean after i saw that picture of like it was shane gillis and miles teller and like a few other guys and i was just like this is the most this is like the racist mount rushmore right here like you don't you don't want to be around these guys after they had a case of bud lights like that like it was after the show because because shane gillis did a pretty good job playing Curtis Sliwa in the cold opening.
29:04Daniel:They had to represent, but they brought in... Yeah, Jason, I do... Are you saying Miles is racist too? Not just Shane? No, I'm saying that none of them are actually, but they have a look about them. Like Miles Teller looks like... I mean, he's famous for Top Gun too. Like it's tough to beat those charges. There's also the drum movie. Was he in that? Drum Line 5? Whiplash. Whiplash, great movie. Great movie. And I wonder if he had to learn to play drums, was Jeremy Allen White style. I feel like he must have. He's got to go method. I think he did. I wonder if he can still slap the skins though.
29:35He also killed it in Project X. Throw your X's up.
29:39Daniel:I think Miles Teller is, he represents everything that's going on in the world right now. He looks like the king of Austin, Texas. There's not an injection that he's not taking right now. Well, he's the Zoron of Dallas, Houston, Austin, and Nashville. You know what I mean? I'm the Zoron of Dallas. He just looks like every guy you would see in those cities. He looks like his name should be Buck Mason. Yeah, literally. He is the human Buck Mason. Yeah, he's the human Buck. That's a good way to put it. You gonna get after him this weekend, boys? There's been some interesting names on SNL, but I also don't know any.
30:17Daniel:The only ones I know are the ones that have had careers outside of it. You know what I'm saying? I don't really know the new players' names. I have to see them on screen. The problem with the impressions is like he's doing the Silva impression but he's not even like one tenth as funny as silva actually is like on the mic and that i mean that's the thing with trump is that people can make that funny because it there's like all the there's like all the stuff like the hand movements and shit where curtis is just bars it's just straight up bars of wild shit i feel like if zoran wasn't running he would low-key like he has a shot oh he did no he definitely low-key has a shot i said that somebody was saying this and we talked a little bit on the show but it was it's like people haven't seen like a real new yorker before like that shit is crazy that's like what people actually that are born and right that's like what they act like that's a real portrayal you know and driving around queens i like go to a lot of states hills as my hobby and driving around real queens it's all silver signs 100 and i literally overheard at this yard sale these people were being like they're like i'm really scared i'm really scared yeah curtis yeah curtis hasn't moved from the one percent total chance of winning that he's been at he's been floating around one zeron's about 90 and cuomo's around eight i was getting my teeth cleaned uh this morning thank you for noticing they do they do look nice did you go to tend or did you go to a more local practitioner i went to a really scary local dentist that could take me quickly and only cost a hundred dollars so you approach general work like a drunk tattoo just whatever's as you're walking something off the wall when you feel it you go for it yeah sure but my um hygienist who's like a classic kind of like queen's bulldozer lady and she's like barnacle dyke they call him i'm trying to like you know warm her up i'm like how are you she's like oh i'm tired like i woke up at 5 a.m i had to go vote i wanted my vote to count and i'm like okay let's see where this is gonna go like before we reveal our allegiances and she's like you know i don't do it for me i do it for my son and i was like okay maybe and then she's like but there's all these people they come into the city and they want something for free and i was like i'm you're about to put a lot of sharp objects in my mouth so i'm not gonna say anything we're not gonna get we're not gonna get into this we're not gonna get into this right now your teeth your teeth do look nice and how often are you getting them cleaned are you are you keeping up with this every six months or is it a little uh no i always like you know you get the six month appointment and then they text you the day before and you're kind of like what and then you call them back and you're like could i come in like next week and they're like you could come in in two months yeah yeah there's no in between yeah there's no in between they they force it down your throat pause it's too bad that this is a audio only podcast because you are looking great skin skin is on fleek as well we'll throw the teeth up on uh ig throw the teeth up on what are you copying at these estate sales like how much space do you have like what are you doing what are you buying are you flipping the number one thing i buy is records most of which i flip okay american pickers ass all right so you're on so you're heavy on discogs aren't you well not so i used to work for this uh online discog seller called boom service now they have a store in new york and so i would grade and like post all the records for them so i just know how much records are worth you know okay hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on it's a slow slow your roll analog man uh all right so you get a you get a rare afro beat 12 inch that you know these dorks online want to sample yeah and you're you're taking you're taking it out you got your loop out you're looking at it like a fucking princess cut what do we what obviously we're avoiding warping scratches but is there is there less obvious stuff that a layman like me would maybe miss and then overpay or underpay for some classic vinyl i mean it's so varied and it's funny because people always think like you go to these sales and they'll have all the like they'll have their like random classic rock records like they'll be like those are ten dollars a record and then all the like dance 12 inches or whatever they'll be like oh those are 50 cents i don't give a shit and it's like so that's where i'm looking so you're paying you're paying 10 for the bob seger but the fucking white label unreleased is 30 cents.
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34:43Daniel:Yeah. I mean, I've had, you know, it's a lot of sorting through trash, but I find it fun. But I have some come-ups. I found a disco 7-inch that's worth like 800 bucks the other weekend. Damn. Just random. 7-inch? That's how many songs? Four? We got two on the... Oh, one on each side? One on each. Bro, hell no. I ain't paying. I mean, how good's the sample? This ain't the Lagwagon 7-inch, bro. These are proper tracks. If it ain't Propagandhi 7-inch, I want as many songs as I can get for my money. I did find this punk 7-inch. It was called Dad Brains. It was a bunch of middle-aged white guys covering bad brains.
35:17Daniel:I think I've heard of this. It was only worth$10. What is the greatest come up you've ever had? Like, have you had a life-changing come up? No, because there's not that many records. I mean, the$800 7-inch, that's pretty high up there. Yeah, that's true. That might be my best ever. All right, American Picker. I love to hear that success story okay but are you able to get are you able to get rid of them or do you keep some or do you sample them first and then maybe put them on the site after you use it I tend to I do like a horde purge cycle you know this is similar to your fitness plan I'm assuming yes I know you bulk I know you cut and then we puke it out in the bathroom it rolls okay so you're saying i cannot have that much crab after 8 p.m it's all coming you go through phases of copping heavily and then getting rid of all of it in a one fell swoop that feels like uh sort of manic otherwise if you do it if you otherwise it's like it takes your whole life over so you gotta kind of yeah like i got rid of go moving season i got rid of 500 records earlier this year hold for applause i always keep a pile that's just like to sell and sometimes i'll just like drop them off at the record store i'll be like i just found this stack of beatles records i know they're worth some money i don't want them dropping off at my friend's record store he gives me 100 bucks in credit oh you don't even get cash because you're such a head you want to put it back into the business supporting local biz yeah exactly it's my friend's record like for a record store how much okay so your friend that owns a record store he lives off of this that's his job the boom service guys no well they run the online record store and it's like a big it's like a real business yeah that's a real business and then the store is a real business but it's much smaller scale than i think the online sure but it's like nice to have a footprint and like storage and shit why not yeah it's just like more chill to like be in a store when the people come over from japan they have a place to go i was gonna say thank god you're having me on on the eve of record box gate jason you'll know somebody sent me a message saying you guys you guys need to do 10 minutes on this and i said probably not gonna happen but now that you're here daniel this happening We're doing the next 40.
37:31Daniel:Can you guys explain? If you get laid, fast forward 10 minutes, guys. Can you guys explain for a guy who likes guitars what this means? Okay, so you know your guitar software, right? Yeah. There's, for some reason, you know how everyone uses CDJs to DJ off of? Of course. And they're all the same brand, Pioneer. Yes. Then there's a proprietary software called RecordBox. Yes. And RecordBox is spelled with a K, correct? The way you hate. exactly just want to be clear and mostly you can use that just to organize your music in the playlist but if you're like one of those djs you can make little cue points and have all your stuff ready to go for when you when you say if you're one of those djs who makes cue points i feel like that's almost everyone bro not me i like to wing it it's too easy okay okay okay so do you do you put a piece of electrical tape over the bpm on your cdj as well fucking hot shot no i just i hit sync and i let it roll you know okay no i just you're so natty with it you just think only okay i've seen jason using his record box before you know kind of getting ready for a set but it's you're saying it's for organizational purposes but you can also yes add in the cue points so you could set cue points you could do loops there's a lot of ways to really kind of it's a helpful piece of software for people in the dj industry give you a give you a big safety net for a lot of stuff and make it a little too easy daniel's saying i'm so faded i don't give a fuck i'm just gonna let this shit rock i don't care what happens he doesn't even have his mp3s titled he has to go by the ear it's all white labels on his laptop white label oh yeah i'm looking over my shoulder seeing what i'm playing crazy okay so record box okay so okay record box is the software it's a necessary evil to use cdjs for the most part quick quick question for both of you has there been any competition that has flared up and tried to go toe-to-toe with the record box industrial complex wow unless you're like a scratching dj you might use serato or tractor but not for you know shout out to all my tractor users the few the proud yeah and in order to like put music on you know organize music on playlists and play it on your cdj you have to use this software it's like that's it they released some update basically where you needed to have the most recent version of record box like on your computer and if you didn't and you plugged in your usbs all your shit got wiped for some people was all their playlists but for some people was literally all the music on their usbs so like every big dj on monday was just like what the fuck oh no so the guy playing okay so you get to your set at the day party and the crowd's going fucking crazy and you plug your fucking usb in and there's just nothing there nothing clinton music has nothing on their on their chrome hearts versace usb sticks best case scenario you have 20 000 unorganized songs that you kind of have to yeah let me ask it let me ask you guys a question then if this happened to you what what is the what do you do you just throw your hands up and say sorry put a spotify playlist on like there's nothing we can do here or is there a way to sort through those files in real time and still keep the crowd jumping i've had to do it like i've played at some random gigs where they had like the denon cdjs and i was like the fuck and then you plug in and it just is a list of all the songs on your thing like as file names and i have like yeah 20 000 songs on there where are you playing at what ratty ass ridgewood spot got the denon cdjs bro That happened a long time ago at a bar in New York.
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43:03Well, I mean, somebody like him, like we were saying before, or somebody like him who doesn't even you know add tags and cue points on stuff he knows all of the tracks that he has he is so just be like playing with vinyl you you pick put a record up it's a white label you put it on the platter you hit play and then the song starts you like oh i know what that song is i know the the general tempo of it and then you decide if this is going to work or not work with the song that's currently playing and you keep doing that until it's good he could do that no problem i would be sweating like a whore in church and then most other current djs would have to literally just like i'm done i can't like this is not unless they have all the little bells and whistles set up ahead of time they're they're crippled you know this did make
43:49Daniel:it to my twitter feed though i saw a lot of people talking about this and it's pretty funny it's pretty funny overall because i feel like if you own the marketplace like that you can't there's no room for error if every single if you are the industry standard you can't throw an update out and there'd be a bug but also record box ever since i've started you ever since i've used it for you know 10 years at least has always had a reputation of being everyone hates very buggy every time you update it some weird shit happens nobody it's one of those soft pieces of software that everyone says like do not update it it'll you know 50 chance it's gonna like fuck your weekend up if you update i don't want to f you guys in the industry but i'm in san francisco right now i mean i think we could put our brains together maybe we could get something started now this maybe this is i can talk to a few engineers and see if we can get our own is it too big to fail we'll see have you considered using ai technology this is a good idea gone box is going to hit the market and and daniel obviously like you're not represented in name but we'll give you a percentage of the of the all right it's going to be super open source Daniel so if you have any thoughts like we're trying to be really nimble on this I'll consult at least I need to go check out DJ Reddit on this one see what's really cracking we have a limited equity package that we will present to you whatever you do under no circumstances go to DJ Reddit what is the DJ what is it r slash what well there's I mean there's a million for every like possible kind of stuff but the one that I've had the most interaction with is r slash aves like raves and that's a new york specific okay discord slash reddit do they fuck with you do they fuck with you or nah well they make fun of me because i occasionally post screenshots of people writing about me on it okay okay so you're you're poking the you're poking so you're not you're not using this you're not using a raves anonymously you are posting as no i'm i'm just alert i just lurk i just go on like twice a year search my name okay okay and then screenshot screenshot okay and then and there's one guy who if you search my name on uh r slash saves he has called me not once not twice but like 10 times he calls me community hole because i dj too much in new york okay so you're you're the no loads refused of of the lot radio circuit i guess so it just seems really like specific and to just like do it and then if you search community hole it's just him talking about me he's not using it as a general catch-all for djs he's never said community hole about anyone or anything other than the the prolific dj schedule of of you just me that seems like a term that seems like a term that if you use you would use often in many realms you know what i'm saying yeah i plan to try it out this afternoon applying that to the dj homie babe you're being such a community hole what do you mean by that i think you know exactly what i mean by that i'm not going to explain this to you again i'm not gonna explain to you again it's not my job to do the work and you're over here on reddit like actually i wish i could dj more gigs you know i i was i was hoping to get a few more on the calendar this month i didn't think i was giving community whole i mean you're not you're not playing five nights a week are you no what do they expect you to do to earn money this is your job that's what you have to do to earn money i don't really understand what thank you okay well that's why we have r slash estate sales yeah you can only you only come up on the record so often that's true you have to keep it consistent well where do you dj in new york most often because i feel like every time i talk to somebody like you they tell me about some shit i've never heard of before uh i dj a lot at like basement public records oh come on blow my mind bro i know this shit even i know this shit come on give me some real new york's hottest club is yeah give me some real for the heads stuff i'm i'm gonna be real with you guys i've been a little checked out this year because you know i'm transitioning to uh neo-folk uh ambient shoegaze congratulations on your transition that's really brave thank you and i will de-transition eventually when because i've already realized that like you make playing live shows is a thousand times more work and you make a fraction of the money that's right but it's so enriching it's so soul nourishing right yes where you get to bring all those extra cables and then people are waiting for you to tune something why did you decide to why did you decide to do this were you just fucking fed up with the dj industry and all those assholes on r slash ave what i really did it was so that i could take a year get a six pack and then come back as a shirtless dj and then have my career finally take off they say the the the easiest way to make a million dollars is be rich already and now start at the stock you already know how to dj six pack much more difficult how close how close are we to these goals has dc 10 called you already like where where is it where is it landing a little we gotta do skip a few more meals i'm thinking per per week all right you're telling me less pierogies would help with your goals um got it i don't know you just saw it it just kind of snowballed where it was like i started making the album and then i thought that the only way to get people to like actually listen to it was to stop like shouting about being a dj every weekend and i do actually think that kind of worked really yes was this like so do you think that was this like a strategy you set out with or you realized this during the process uh i realized it like at the end of last year i was like i'm not gonna put out any dj mixes no techno tracks like nothing just only think of me as like your emo okay so you so you heard the addison ray album and you said i gotta get in the stew i gotta get my my ambient 90s ray of light trip hop on yeah we gotta make some you know sad music for lonely men so they don't uh become incels okay so you're saying you made the gooning soundtrack is what you're saying absolutely i many have said it once again many have said it Okay, do you think, I was trying to think before, you know, people are always mentioning recession indicators and things like that.
50:21But this style of music, to me, is reminiscent of a time where maybe, you know, Bill Clinton was in office or, you know, early George Dubb. Is this an economic boom indicator and not a recession indicator?
50:35Daniel:Well, isn't that, it's right before, we're standing at the edge of a cliff. Okay. Much like that time. which is actually track seven on the album rest here okay jason you could probably relate to this when we started like being a dj was cool it was a cool thing to say if you were just like if you said that to someone they'd be like oh whoa like what does that even mean like that's cool people smiled versus frowning now people nowadays they go oh and if you like say that have to say that to your aunt they're like what do you do you're like i'm a dj they're like oh okay i know what that is and now there were no cool bands when i started djing which is probably why i started djing because it was just like i you know look you're wrong but i'm whatever whatever year you're talking about you ever heard a little thing called block party like when did you start big dog just as that was kind of we're coming out of that oh so okay so you're just gonna it's interpol erasure is what we're gonna that's what we're gonna do here so what year what year we're talking like oh nine oh like ten bro you're crazy oh you don't like vampire weekend okay i thought you were cool that's a low a low moment i like them but it's not like i understand what you're saying i just think that it's funny that you guys say this because i do i i mean i do remember what you're saying i just feel like i didn't realize that that would push someone to be a dj you know what i mean being like oh this shit all sucks i'm just gonna dj that's better and cooler so you are like this passion pit dirty projectors isn't doing it for me i need to get into the stew i need to get my merriweather post pavilion yeah you liar i know you had the grizzly bear tablature out on your bed i don't know it's like i could i was a drummer i couldn't find a cool band to join you're playing the xx falling asleep yeah mid mid uh i didn't know i didn't know you were i didn't know you're a drummer are you are you still nasty with the skins you got a full kit somewhere uh no i took some lessons earlier this year to try to like get it back and it was a little rough really not not that good huh do you think do you think that you or other maybe do other people around you ever call you a musical hater a musical hater just like very opinionated and an often a hater often poo-pooing people's musical choices and in bands they enjoy no i think i mostly i like most music wow that must be nice i wish i like i'm positive yeah i wish i like more music the kind of shit in the presence of a true hater i was just from from two haters to you i was getting you know my spidey sense was going off when you were talking about these other bands and these other acts i was like oh maybe we have a brother not necessarily a hater but maybe someone who's not afraid of sharing their opinions positive or i'll share my i can share my opinions about tech now how much time do you guys have i'm only comfortable in the privacy of an extremely popular podcast sharing my actual opinions there's no reason to do that with your friends at a bar because that's not going to really get your followers up but what do you listen if you're if you're left to your own devices you're not listening to all this freak shit at home you're normal right i'm listening to like indie rock or like you know like my man okay music like you're listening to Wilco in the bathtub?
53:57Daniel:Oh, wow. I didn't know we had so much in common. I thought you were only into your little weird basement stuff. We got fitness and Wilco. That's all I need. You probably maintain a healthy diet of vegetables as well, huh, Daniel? Oh, yeah. Okay. We've got to get our fiber. Oh, so what instruments can you play then? Just drums or you've got a Telecaster in there, a little Strat? Well, I learned bass for the live show for the tour for this album. I had never played and I was putting together the live show and I was just kind of standing in front of the computer and I was like this is boring as fuck and so I was just like I started taking bass lessons like daddy needs to slap four months ago because I wondered I wonder what Carlos D had been doing and you're saying he's been teaching you how to play bass is what you're saying bass is fun to play too and it's good you're able to it's not super duper hard depending on what you're playing and then you know you're not getting your Les Claypool on up there like drums like the dumber you are the better you are at it because it's not it's not involving the mental it's involving the physical what's the fan what's the famous bass player that looks like jason a little bit the real tall guy that's like he plays with john mayer he's like the bass player i can't think his fucking name it's like pablo or something it's a funny name but he always struck me as smart but now i'm rethinking everything because you just gotta sit there you know locked in pino paladrino yeah the goat he's the he's the all-time best bass player that's what they say Really?
55:20Born in 57? Jesus.
55:21Daniel:He'd really be slapping it. So you learned to play bass. Daniel, how confident do you feel in your slapping at this point? I can play all the songs from the album. Okay, but can you play any Third Eye Blind covers or anything? I can play all the songs from the album. Okay. Can you do it while you're fucked up, though? I haven't tried. Well, that's something you should maybe test out before you hit the road. The 2C happens after the set nowadays, Chris. You know, as a seasoned DJ, I'm pretty like, you know, I'm immune to the free drinks. We just have one or two max. How do you have that self-control though?
55:56Daniel:I got you. You got to be born with it. I mean, I mean, it's true. It's true. Like some people, some people can eat two cookies out of the bag. You hand Chris the bag of cookies. Not as easy to have just two. Not as easy. What, what, when are you going on? When does XO tour life start? Like Miami, LA next week. I'm opening for Chanel beads in Miami, which should be interesting. I would love to see who comes to see you and Chanel beads in South beach. That is, is this, is this at a hotel ultra lounge? Like where is the show happening? Well, you know, space, the like mega club. Yes. They have like a venue.
56:34Daniel:Oh, underneath. They have a non-binary venue where this kind of shit can happen. So in many ways we're playing at space. okay so this is like the space annex of sorts yes it's called the ground god god damn i gotta say you and chanel beads it feels like it's too cool of a thing to be attached to space no shade to space i actually space is my favorite club okay okay i mean just in terms i i don't know what their their bookings are nowadays but it feels a little more of like a john somebody yes but kind of vibe you know what i mean have you ever been i have yes i know there's something about it's like berghain for like cheesy straight people in south beach like you go there and at like seven in the morning when does the good stuff start these south beach girls getting absolutely blasted with a co2 cannon to like john summit and there's just something really like beautiful about it i really want to go after i started getting i started getting videos on reels of girls waking up at 5 a.m to get ready to go to space and i was like oh this is twisted this is more like i didn't know regular people did this i thought i was a music lover you know what i mean yeah right all right so all right so you're playing with your opening chanel beads in in miami is it just you up there with a bass uh no and then i have a guitarist taren who's sick with it very good It has a crazy effects board.
58:03Daniel:Makes me look a lot better because you can only do so much with the bass. So Taryn's hitting the road. What is the transportation for this? This is airplanes. Airplanes. Okay. I'm still coming from DJ life. Like I'm not getting in a van. How much, how much money do you think you're going to lose on this? Between the two shows, not including the thousands of dollars I invested into the equipment for the live show. Let's call it a cool thousand dollars. All right, so we're only Liz in a stack on the shows, but you're saying you invested in some gear that you need to pull this off that's setting us back.
58:39Daniel:Guitar Center. He doesn't want to be a guy who just has him and his laptop and a bass. You know, it's going to look. No, no, I appreciate it. I think that that is boring as hell, and I think it's cool to make it something. And I got my pedal board. Like, if I'm going to live out my rock fantasy, like, let's do it. I agree. Okay. I agree. So on the realm of rock fantasies, who's up there in the Mount Rockmore for you? Because right now you kind of have like a suicidal tendencies kind of look to you. So what direction? Who are these rock gods that you really want to emulate? Be careful. Be careful.
59:16Daniel:Title fight?
59:20Pause.
59:21Daniel:Wilco. Okay. Okay. we got war we got war zone wilco title fight uh all right um actually how long gone was going to be at wilco's mexico jamboree in january come on down sky blue sky festival where it's us wilco jayhawks waxahatchee mj linderman we could go on it all right tickets on sale now let me get that list unfortunately there's no list available because it is an all-inclusive package at the hard rock hotel super tight yeah you got to stay on if you want to play bass for someone i'm sure they need it you can't play pedal steel right uh no yeah give me three months okay great yeah you'll buy one tomorrow somewhere in queens yeah who are you who are your but like currently like if you were to choose some sort of contemporaries in the rock space are you more of like a dijon mcgee guy or are you like that stuff is actually for pussies i like i like olivia dean yeah song of the year i like both like you know the greater swag universe i i'm here for it the swagiverse same uh and my friend like plays guitar mcgee andrew and like that got me into that stuff i think all that stuff is really cool and like have listened to it many many times i think it's really cool how popular it is for what it actually sounds like if that makes sense yeah like when when something like that gets really popular obviously justin bieber is now really pushing that agenda even further but i'm always like oh maybe you know maybe people have better taste than i think even though it's still like us like mcgee should not be that big mcgee should not be that it's like it's not the easiest thing to like no and for all like as much as streaming and whatever and like virality and music has obviously destroyed like everything it also allows for random shit like that to suddenly blow the fuck up it's true like there's a grouper track with like a billion streams which is like as esoteric of music as you could get i saw people talking about like it's crazy that fleetwood mac is viral you know talking about rumors being but i'm like guys fleetwood fleetwood mac's kind of an all-timer like no one ever isn't talking about fleetwood mac fleetwood mac rumor is probably top 10 most records sold of all time they're like damn this shit's going viral like low-key it's on tiktok this indie out this indie album is really happening do you know they broke up actually what do you what do you think about this headache and vegan record have you are you familiar with this i haven't heard it i've heard some if i go to car culture radio on spotify it's all over there yeah i think that tracks but i haven't really listened to it as a vegan is a vegan head i'm pretty disappointed by it so don't listen to it or the vegan album the vegan the vegan album that came out like whatever a couple years ago at this point jason all-timer it's so good that's their tusk it's his tusk yeah it's his tusk this this is a little more this i've heard well i mean like the the beats are not unlike some of your beats on on the car culture record yeah trip hoppy kind of samples and and drum loops and things like that but i'm not positive but i think somebody said that it has like the spoken word energy to it which is very kind of like 90s like moby underworld kind of thing yeah it's not it's not spoken word energy it's straight up spoken word like that that is what it is we're at a poetry slam yeah but it has like a british like the movie snatch like yeah you know that kind of energy to it like it's talking to you in a way where it's like delivering the monologue of like a guy richie movie like it feels like that a little bit but i think i heard that it's all ai generated the whole spoken word part about it and to me as soon as i heard that it just it took me out of it for whatever reason and now i just without that it's nothing without the the spoken word it's just drums that's why i listened to olivia dean big dog that's what that's what i'm saying that's real talent right there i got no computers in sight i got so mad the other day a friend and acquaintance were downgrading it they were like i love all the like ai night pictures you've been doing and i was like you know all the press photos was in the night armor and i was like those are not ai that's blood sweat and tears that's me on brighton beach in 95 degree weather sweating my balls off in a suit of armor to get this photo okay so then your friend says why would you do that when there's ai yeah and it was like on the ep cover we had all this like i had all this denim embroidered to be the like sticker on the vinyl and everyone just assumed that was ai and i was like no i went to an embroiderer i did that you're real head but you're a real head brother there's very few of us left fam it's there's only a few real heads left we got to stay strong doing it the right way supporting local artisans what label what label is this record what label is this record on it's a canadian label so i don't know if you'd interact with it you don't think i know oh but bitch you want to talk about arts and crafts how much time do you have okay you want to talk about you want to talk about dine alone i got i got i got hours speaking of dining alone what do you think about noodle pudding we were talking about it the last episode are you privy to this restaurant in brooklyn not just the food it's a specific restaurant yeah the restaurant is called noodle pudding which i learned i googled it and it's kugel is what it's another word for kugel the the jewish that's what we call it in the in the jewish faith okay so there's an italian restaurant in brooklyn called noodle pudding that's like a neighborhood spot that many people love i haven't been i've been kind of checked out i only eat at the diner that's underneath my house and then this one italian restaurant where like it's like a recent Italian immigrant runs it and he's like this old lecherous man and he kind of like sexually harasses all the girls that go there but in like a charming fun way that's what Jason thinks he's doing too is that is the touch the small of your back in a fun kind of old Italian guy way oh you know he was you say he made some weird broken English joke about it he was like i have the epstein files or something i have the epstein files okay i'm back i'm back take my money we were with a friend it was me actually brian pinheiro your former not to dead name and dj python was with me and we were with our friend who um is a very beautiful woman yeah we can't get oh we can't get her name we can get we can get dj python we're keeping that obviously Well, I know you two went home together and she went home alone.
1:05:50Daniel:So I ain't worried about that. And she was like, I want the gnocchi, but I want to see if they'll put chicken in it. And we were like, he's Italian. He's not going to put chicken in the gnocchi for you. He's not going to make you chicken gnocchi Alfredo. He's going to get so mad. And of course she orders it. And he's like, of course, no problem. And I was like, if I had ordered that, he would have screamed at me. Yeah, it's called pretty privilege. You can have your gnocchi with however much light, lean protein you would like. Have you seen this guy? There's a guy on, Jason, actually, you should try this.
1:06:25Daniel:There's a guy on Love is Blind, and he went viral for making a chicken and crystal light smoothie every day. Crystal? Oh, I think I've seen this in bodybuilder TikTok. Crystal light, the powder, and chicken in a ninja blender, and he would just guzzle it for protein purposes. That's fucking crazy. I can't think. We got to try it. Jason I think you should maybe you could make a high end version somehow it's like a Bing cherry reduction like chicken glaze I want to know why Crystal Light I think because he's just like a guy from Denver it's just like a flavor that he I could use drip drop liquid IV some magna apple protein magnesium powder with my sous vide chicken breast but I think if you got a very a very nice farm-raised high-end breast and then mixed it with a more artisanal powder, it could yield more positive results.
1:07:25Daniel:That's all I'm saying. Like a reishi powder. But Crystal Light is like what my mom, I mean, that's like - My hojicha powder. But I want to know, what's wrong with just eating the chicken breast? I think it's a delivery system. It's a speed thing. I think you get it down. It's not about enjoying it. It's about optimizing. You're a Huberman guy. You know this. Yeah, well, I guess on this, Daniel, you mentioned got to get your fiber. Are you in part of the post-protein pro-fiber movement going on right now? I've been a little post-protein. I've been doing what some people call intuitive eating. What is that exactly?
1:08:04Is that just a regular intuitive eating? It is what it sounds like?
1:08:07Daniel:When I'm hungry, I eat. Kind of. It was like... You don't listen to your body, do you? You got to listen to your body. It keeps the score. um period i go through these phases where i'm very like meal prep you know i'm eating my ground turkey my kale and you know i'm like i have to have my whatever 190 grams of protein per day but then it's like if i get into like a worker tour mode sometimes you know you can't keep it up yeah and i was so things were so intense the last couple months that i just wasn't really eating that much at all like i was eating like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and like a bodega sandwich like that was all I would eat in a day and then coming out of that I was like okay well you know be easy on yourself you don't have to go straight into the ground turkey just like get back to like eating some normal food and I was kind of like maybe I'm not as hungry as I thought I was like that if somehow if I you know I'm not careful I'm gonna eat like 5 ,000 calories a day because I'm just like this insane hungry guy and so I just kind of have been eating whatever I want whenever I want and it's really like actually way less calories than I thought it was and when you and you're allowing whenever you whatever it is that you want you either make that or you track it down and it doesn't matter how it's it's not the same as just esoteric it is no and it's not the same as just being like obviously eating whatever I want whenever I want I would just eat like Chinese food from the place across like down the street for me every day three meals a day because like what could it's more just being like i ate something like kind of bad for lunch maybe i should just have like a little salad or protein bar for dinner and just like right okay so you have when you have when you have three sprinkles cupcakes for lunch you go salad for dinner you wake up one day and you're like i'm gonna have just miso soup for breakfast lunch and dinner today because that's what my body is yearning for yeah and then the next day you'll have more calories double smash burger whoa whoa this is new so let's let's check back in i'll give you guys updates i'll send you uh shirtless pics every week or so for the next couple months yeah please and they bet they better not be ai either don't send me none of them ai i need before and after with the armor and without oh jason you're nasty you put the mail in chain mail baby oh jesus all right so dan when is the album out now album is out it came out about a month ago album is out now it's in stores everywhere wherever you stream and when i quite like it when do you hit the road it's very good when do you hit the road with da beads uh well i'm just opening for them in miami that'll be the 13th and then la is the 14th at friend of the show stevie silver lake lounge stevie unfortunately i'm gonna be in new york when you're in la otherwise i would be up in there i think that happens almost every time ships in the night brother man okay and then and then you're doing your own tour well i'm always just yeah but i'm not talking i'm not talking about dj i'm talking you're always at the techniques and the denons i'm talking about the base the live show yeah uh then i'm going to europe in december we're gonna do italy and the uk maybe hit some scandinavian countries i know those are your people my people shout out to all my stock homies do a day do a poolside set at lanzerhoff nobody can dance because they can't expend that energy when they haven't eaten in a week um this is some there's there's some good crossover here i like that there's some good crossover all right in terms of the fasting and your music daniel also send me send me the record so i can put it on the end of this episode okay okay you you want me to express overnight the vinyl no i'm good mp3 20 mp3 or i need the waves, but we'll talk later.
1:11:57Daniel:Thank you, Daniel, for joining us. All right. Later.
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Our friend Daniel returns to the pod. He DJs under the name Physical Therapy, and his newest project, Car Culture, has a great new record out now. We chat with him from his studio in Ridgewood about the upcoming NY election, RIP Dick Cheyney, pirogis on a date, "cheating shoes," SNL cast member names, estate sales in Queens, and $800 record, Rekordbox Gate, lurking on r/aves, when being a DJ was cool, club Space in Miami, people think all his artwork is AI, and his current diet.
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