867. - Ezra Marcus

9:41Ezra Marcus:No, no, no. Imagine the TSA in Milan. they got on they got unreleased they got unreleased they got on they got shit i've never heard of they've got they got they got they got flavors that are so bad that they that no one wants them it's gotten it's gotten to that point it's gotten to that point how much how much licorice mint can

10:00Jason Stewart:we really who wants the hojicha no i'm good no more let's put that up in the break room we can just kind of flip a coin for that one whoever wants it oh jesus christ i went to a movie screening shout out to my neon family last night uh sentimental value saw some friends of the show there lionel and uh io and who else was there carrie kenneth from 30 rock up in there one of

10:28Ezra Marcus:the greats that was a rare that was a rare sighting is he in it or is he just i mean he's obviously a

10:33Jason Stewart:cinema lover i thought he could maybe have a little part he it's because um the the scars Skarsgård dad plays the male lead in it. And I know that Jack and Skarsgård have a will they, won't they sort of hetero slash question mark friendship, right? Okay.

10:51Ezra Marcus:You've seen the photos and the posts, right? I mean, all of these actors gay baiting, I can't keep track if I'm being completely honest with you. Sure, sure, sure, sure. Was the movie good?

11:03Jason Stewart:It was good. I did get a nice little nappy in there at some point. It wouldn't be a film without that for me, but yeah, it was good. I mean, you know, it's a film that you really got to be in the mood for. It's, you know, over two hours and it's about, you know, Scandinavian family, familiar life and struggles.

11:21Ezra Marcus:That does sound pretty good. I mean, it's not Selling Sunset season nine, but it sounds pretty good.

11:27Jason Stewart:It was amazingly done. Definitely. It won an award at Cannes and I think it was a good one. not no little one but yeah it was good it was great it was at the Directors Guild Theater right next door to the Griddle oh sure the Griddle is still open right still open and I was reminiscing of when you would go there and you would ask for the secret off menu pancake waffles and you would have to say the password super califragilistic you know the whole thing and then they're like that's how you get the secret pancakes and it was and basically what all it is is they take waffle batter and make pancakes with it or they take pancake batter and make waffles i mean that's pretty i forgot which one it was

12:15Ezra Marcus:genius i have to say and that place there used to be a line that was like one of the first lines i ever saw like at a restaurant you know what i'm saying that's like really one of the first things

12:24Jason Stewart:that was like 2005 era wait in line for an hour and a half to have your hangover brunch the good

12:30Ezra Marcus:the good hangover brunch i saw that there's pictures of the uh of the new the public that's going in where the standard was lynn posted some i think there was a reporter story about it yeah i gotta look i gotta look because i i need to see what they're doing because they can't change the structure because it's protected but obviously they're going to tear the guts out like it's a

12:49Jason Stewart:you know i mean it's a it's a full gut right now but we're going to keep all the charm because i I mean, is it the first Ocean's Eleven movie where Brad Pitt is the owner of that hotel and they blow up his car in the parking lot? Oh, shit. Maybe. Tobey Maguire is having a freak out in one of the rooms. He has to calm them down. That's the level. That's the era of Hollywood bullshittery that I'm loving.

13:14Ezra Marcus:Of Tobey Maguire doing his vegan Coke at the Standard Hotel in West Hollywood having a fucking freak out. All right. We got a guest today. Is this Coke vegan? that's what my fentanyl strips are it's actually for animal parts uh all right we have a guest today ezra marcus friend of the show uh a writer a man about town he's apparently i've seen some dj gigs lately hitting his resume which we'll need to obviously yeah you can talk to him about

13:38Jason Stewart:writing and i'll talk to him about being in the mix we'll grill him on both great head of hair on this guy all right let's give him a call this episode of how long gone is brought to you by our

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17:46Ezra Marcus:But after the age of 30, which unfortunately we are, even responsibly drinking a little booze will make you feel less than 100 % the next day. And look, there are obviously more negative effects from alcohol than just dehydration. Otherwise, how could alcohol be hard on your brain and liver? It has a depressant effect on specific receptors in your brain, and it's toxic to your liver. That's bad, Jason. What can we do? What do you think? Is there a fix for this? Is there a way to sort of hack this?

18:13Jason Stewart:That is bad, Chris. There is a good one. I like to drink. I like to put them down a little bit. Certain alcohols give me certain feelings and headaches and bad feelings. When I drink wine, I won't be feeling so good the next day compared to something else, and that's where I like to grab a little cheers. They appeared over on Shark Tank. Let's go. And now Cheers is sold in over 30 ,000 stores, Walgreens, CBS, 7-Eleven, all that stuff. Served over 50 million doses. So that's why we reach for Cheers, Chris. You're going to feel at least 50 % better the next day or your money back. Basically, two drinks feels like one the next morning.

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19:27Ezra Marcus:not much man how are you guys oh it's good you know another it's a beautiful fall day in new york and we're inside podcasting of god intended it's a beautiful fall day in la and i'm inside

19:38Jason Stewart:podcasting yeah exactly cheers what's up with you bro not much i just moved i'm on uh i'm in the

19:44Chris Black:kind of i'm like three blocks away from the dime square thunderdome well you as a as a local

19:52Ezra Marcus:politician in the area i'm glad you can stay in your jurisdiction yeah but it's just far enough

19:57Chris Black:away so i don't have to be accosted by my you know sure yeah i haven't been over there in a

20:01Ezra Marcus:while i need to walk over there uh maybe i'll go over there today see what's going on you want you

20:05Jason Stewart:want to be close but not too close that's why i live where i am you're you're just removed enough but you're still within striking distance if you need to go you know do whatever look at some 19 year olds practice their kickflips in the middle of a closed off street um sample the latest in

20:23Chris Black:fentanyl at Seward Park.

20:26Ezra Marcus:That's actually the real New York experience that people are looking for. They come here and they stay in Brooklyn and they want to get a picture of the bridge and stuff.

20:34Jason Stewart:They say, I read about this place called Cookies in one of this guy Ezra's articles in the New Yorker. And then they show up and it's nothing but fentanyl and you feel responsible, don't you? What happened to Cookies? Is it still kicking? Yeah, actually, I'm glad that we brought that up because I was just thinking, because you wrote that article about the rise of cookies the the marijuana dispensary that uses streetwear like marketing tactics to sell drugs that was like a year ago you know a year and a half ago whatever and there were cookies is all over and i just searched this morning all the la cookies gone there's just the one like distribution center in like the middle of like industrial haywood california near nothing you know that's crazy in the roll in 60s i didn't know

21:20Chris Black:that i mean i i i get the sense that that i mean they were certainly making a lot of money but it was a little bit more of like a brand with intense loyalty among a very certain kind of guy and less of like a super coherent business proposal but okay sure sure that's actually that's how we

21:36Ezra Marcus:describe how long gone as well so i understand exactly which is which is an odd turn away from

21:40Jason Stewart:most dispensaries who usually have a pretty airtight business plan and cap table in place

21:45Ezra Marcus:right yeah but cookies did cookies did popularize the sort of how would i say it had it had like a nice uh high-end ziploc closure system on the on the bag that you could almost carry like a pushay like it would it's sort of a clutch style marijuana holder but did that closure system that kept the smell inside it was that part of it as well i don't know i think that question might be

22:12Jason Stewart:a little bit i'm i'm probably i'm likely better suited to answer that than than ezra is back in

22:18Ezra Marcus:my day i used to have to buy these special bags that were called i think they were called stink proof and it was what you had you had to keep your because my shit was my shit was so loud that i didn't want it to smell you know it just sitting in the cabinet i didn't want to have that

22:31Jason Stewart:smell your gelato was way too stanky way too the times that i've bought weed as has exclusively

22:37Chris Black:been it's been given to me in the most crinkled piece of like saran wrap doesn't isn't even that's

22:45Jason Stewart:too nice for what they're giving it to me sure okay was this was this in college or is this you know in your adult life in the last few years mostly in college and high school and then i

22:56Chris Black:actually had a i'm not remembering i had a disaster uh experience maybe maybe 10 or 11 years ago when I was just starting out in media. I was covering this random-ass music festival in Delaware. And my friend was driving us around down there and he was like, I'm going to show you guys the real Delaware. We're going to go to the other side. I was like, okay.

23:19Jason Stewart:You're going to O-Block, Delaware. Yeah. It ain't sweet.

23:24Chris Black:Let me tell you, there's no Bidens over on this side. But he was like, we pull up and this guy's like you guys want hard or soft i was like what what you're like bro i

23:37Ezra Marcus:don't want any dick yeah that's not what i'm here for i know it's the other side he's like no no i

23:41Chris Black:just he's like i just want weed man like he wasn't trying to buy heroin or whatever and the guy comes back the guy who's like doesn't even i don't even think this guy was a drug dealer i think he was just a random crackhead and he goes he comes back with hands us and it's like a piece of styrofoam folded in half and we drive away and we look like okay what have what have we got here and it was literally just a handful of looking like a rick owens clutch

24:08Jason Stewart:dude styrofoam doesn't even bend that well that's it's a crunch it don't tell the crackhead you can't bend a piece of styrofoam give him 10 seconds he'll figure it out like i've gotten some crazy drug deliveries

24:21Ezra Marcus:systems in my time and i was always really impressed when i first moved to new york that weed was it was so organized here and the guy would show up with almost what looked like a camera backpack a photographer backpack yeah and he would have a pelican pack he'd have and he'd have cases on the inside he'd open them up there'd be jars it'd all be labeled it was very professional but yeah i mean i've gotten coke folded up in paper before oh yeah which is is one of the worst of all time because you have to it's tough to use in a bathroom you got to kind of lay it all out on

24:49Jason Stewart:a table because you and also you you gotta you can't just lick the paper you gotta eat it you Exactly. You have to eat the paper. Where did it come from?

24:56Ezra Marcus:Well, I don't know if you've ever experienced parachuting. It was something very popular when I was younger where you would sort of just tie up. If you didn't want to just do nummies of Molly, you would sort of tie it up in a piece of toilet paper, like a small balloon, and just toss it back, wash it down with water. It was the cheap version of making your own vitamins, let's say, with capsules.

25:22Jason Stewart:In the culinary world, it's called a bouquet garni. It's where you're able to sort of steep whatever you need to do. Yeah, think of it as a tea bag.

25:31Ezra Marcus:I know you're a writer. I'm sure you're sipping on some tips.

25:35Chris Black:For me, I don't know where this idea came from, and maybe it was real, but in college, it was ubiquitously understood that molly worked so much better if it was with orange juice. Yeah. I think that came from Gucci Mane somehow. And it would just be a sort of like OJ Molly concoction.

25:54Jason Stewart:Well, my first foray was with mushrooms. And they would say you always drink orange juice with the mushrooms because it does a good job at disguising and covering the awful taste. Sure. But then the citrus in the OJ and the vitamin C, it really turns up the Vigis. And I think the Vigis, you know, I don't know how, you know, the Vigis on Molly, not as powerful, but still.

26:22Ezra Marcus:I'm calling bullshit. I'm calling bullshit on all this right now. And this definitely.

26:25Chris Black:Big, big, big OJ.

26:26Jason Stewart:Chris has always been a Vigie hater, though.

26:28Ezra Marcus:No, Minute Maid. Yeah, Minute Maid. He was a psyop, bro. Planted this in the high schools. Yeah, Minute Maid, psyop. Once again, I don't like visuals. I think that's, I just, that's not the kind of drugs that I was interested in. I don't want to see. I barely want to see what's actually real in front of me. Definitely not what's in my mind's eye.

26:45Jason Stewart:You're a bitch. I love it when a tree turns into a skull.

26:50Ezra Marcus:But you went to high school in what? Pacific Northwest or San Francisco?

26:55Chris Black:I went to Berkeley High School in Berkeley, California.

26:59Ezra Marcus:I was in Berkeley literally two days ago. He had dinner at Ye Panisse just two days ago, right? Oh, no way. I was at Ye Panisse having four salads, the best restaurant in the world.

27:10Chris Black:Upstairs or downstairs?

27:12Ezra Marcus:Upstairs.

27:13Chris Black:That's the way to do it.

27:14Ezra Marcus:I've actually never eaten downstairs. I'm not really interested in it.

27:18Chris Black:Me neither.

27:19Jason Stewart:What's your history with Shepanee, Cesare?

27:22Chris Black:My grandmother would always take me for my birthday. Big occasions. Graduation, birthday, all that shit?

27:29Ezra Marcus:Was your grandmother gang with Alice Waters?

27:32Jason Stewart:My grandma took me to Marie Callender's.

27:35Ezra Marcus:You got to go to goddamn fucking Shepanee. I don't know if my grandmother ever took me out to eat ever. You guys both beat me. It's a race to the bottom. Was grandma gang with Alice Waters, or she just had good taste?

27:47Chris Black:No, I think she was just like, she was just a kind of, I think my whole family, they're really kind of, you know, some people, it's like the fresh ingredients is literally all they think about at any given time. It's all they talk about.

27:59Ezra Marcus:It's called, yeah, I'm on a podcast with him three times a fucking minute.

28:02Jason Stewart:Good ingredients in, good ingredients out. It's not that hard, guys. It's not that hard. What's my job as a storyteller? Just to not fuck up what Mother Nature created, okay?

28:12Ezra Marcus:So you're saying that your family, based on the berk of the location, this isn't a total shock. They love fresh produce and high-quality ingredients.

28:20Chris Black:Yeah, you say it like it's a derogatory... No, no, no. I mean, it's really... It's very endearing, and I think that they're absolutely right. I will say that 60 % of what my grandmother talks about is the seasonality of corn, etc.

28:36Ezra Marcus:This is literally Jason. Jason talking about fucking... Yo, what's her at, though? What's her at?

28:41Chris Black:Let's get her on. bro you should pull up to the berkeley hills you guys could you guys could chef it up so does she

28:46Ezra Marcus:is she a is she a home cook and a gardener and stuff or is she just a passionate eater um she'll

28:52Jason Stewart:munch what do you put oh my brother well she has she has four kids so um i think they're she's a parking lot demon

29:04Jason Stewart:sorry sorry i'm sorry miss marcus i am so real

29:11Chris Black:she's a she's an she's an excellent chef definitely like in a kind of alice waters but she i mean she was from new england so it was she moved out to berkeley

29:22Jason Stewart:later i could hand her a persimmon and she would just smell it and go no she will she has a harsher

29:30Chris Black:she has a kind of harsher criteria at the supermarket or the farmer's market yep then like I don't even know like future at Magic City she is like exactly what she's looking for 95 % of the produce

29:45Jason Stewart:so she's like Wiz Khalifa at the cookies sample sale just like very like no no no birds of a feather with me I will say

29:53Ezra Marcus:did any of that rub off on you or are you more of a McDonald's Chick-fil-A Taco Bell type cat

29:58Chris Black:I'm somewhere in the middle I love like you know I love eating crazy food I love going to like you know deep queens real Thai food what have you but I'll also go to the most like dusty ass supermarket and buy the like half rotten onion because I'm bored and like not paying attention sure sure I think it's

30:17Ezra Marcus:all kind of kind of fake to a certain extent I also think it's fake well I don't think it's fake I think that there is a I think that 95 to 99 percent of people cannot actually tell the difference of most thing the quality of most things unless they've spent a lot of time

30:33Chris Black:trying to develop that i think i think i agree and i think there's a certain kind of performativity to it where somebody will get like you know the heirloom tomato from the farmer's market and it's this like full they have to perform this like full body orgasmic of the cow this is so and it's like blind taste test that's probably about the same to that person as like 100 random shit we do that

30:57Jason Stewart:with everything though we i do that with my fucking birkin you know i look i pull it out and i said damn it's so nice because i spent 18 thou on it and a blind taste test with that and the and the coach bag 99 people won't be able to tell i could look i could look for the proper hardware and

31:14Ezra Marcus:stamping but i know what you mean i know you're you are the one percent chris your gay ass is the one percent in this instance no but i i think that with i say this all the time about food because i go to these places that are so good and i'm like yeah this is good as hell and then i go to places that are less good and I'm also like this is good as hell and I know they're different because one costs a lot more and people really care about going there but I don't think I am I can tell

31:38Jason Stewart:we all have our things that we can tell y 'all ain't super tasters you're super dressers I'm a

31:43Ezra Marcus:super taster Jason could you taste a cigarette taste test how do you think you'd do if I gave

31:47Jason Stewart:you five different cigs if as long as they're brands that I have had experience with yeah no problem no problem okay that see that's the other thing i'll do a hestia i'll do a parliament marl marlboro light turkish camel i could even do a lucky strike they're toasted i only got it this

32:05Chris Black:is gonna sound really stupid but i only got into smoking cigarettes in the last year and a half and so i'm now just trying them all out and i just i can barely tell the difference like they're all

32:16Jason Stewart:so good okay okay you're easy when it comes to nicotine you got that you got the heirloom marlboro light and you're super happy with it it's all good i'll get a carton of hestias over to the house ezra don't worry we were talking about djing on the intro you invited me to go see you dj at jeans on halloween night and i went there after tame impala and there was like 700

32:41Chris Black:and people in line so we didn't get in so how was it it was awesome i mean i love dj i've been doing it for a long time it's kind of it's kind of all i actually ever want to do and really absolutely and it pays more than writing that's for sure um it pays more it uh matters more

33:04Ezra Marcus:i think we can get to the bottom we can look i know you wear glasses and shit but let's just be honest djing gets more pussy and that's what you want to say but you don't want

33:12Jason Stewart:to say it or dick that's true and the family is more impressed by djing nowadays than they were

33:17Chris Black:back in my day yeah did that did your parents understand that at all they were just kind of

33:22Jason Stewart:like okay you know if you're happy and having fun it's it's fine it's no problem but it was more so like hey i'm djing at this like massive rave and they're like like i'm djing at like the olympic arena you know and they're like okay cool and then but then if i'm playing like at a dive bar and it's in like the classified section of the la weekly they're like oh shit bro you're in you're

33:44Ezra Marcus:in print i would be upset if your mom was hyped on hard festival but i think i think that i think that that is i think parents as long as you don't ask that parents for money in my experience they're fine with whatever you're doing as long as it's not obvious that it's illegal unless you're from berkeley then your parents are going to have more of an opinion on what's going on that's honest that's honestly you seem like a guy who comes from educators or whatever the berkeley of

34:09Chris Black:your part of the world is yeah not specifically but it's all yeah it's all the kind of like generic jewish sort of you know played a lot of scrabble growing up

34:21Ezra Marcus:sure sure your household rewarded intellectualism you're saying it wasn't frowned upon like some

34:26Chris Black:households that i know of definitely it was it was it was highly regarded i think that maybe led me towards you know on the one end i guess i have this quasi-intellectual career but i think also stuff like djing was i i was really i was like wait there's this you're like oh he's a writer

34:41Jason Stewart:they're like yeah very impressive yeah all these publications what's he writing about galaxy gas

34:49Ezra Marcus:yeah it's grandma this one's not for you maybe maybe he'll send you his newest mix and you can

34:55Jason Stewart:put it on in the car on the way to the farmer's market so are you a better writer than you are a

34:59Chris Black:dj in your opinion absolutely i'm a complete hack dj i'm such a sync just a sync button queen at the

35:06Jason Stewart:end of the day oh you're a sync queen aren't you i'm learning you know i'm actually after like 15

35:10Chris Black:years of this i'm like i'm gonna learn how to be match i'm gonna do it but don't waste your time i love the sync button it's like you could because all i care about is playing like as many of the songs that i want as i can in a night and i don't really care about the rest of it i mean i guess i

35:26Jason Stewart:the difference is sync button or sounds awful, I'm going sync 100 % of the time.

35:34Chris Black:It's true.

35:35Ezra Marcus:Ezra, look, DJing today, sync button is fine. Just keep working on those pull-ups in the park. That's what's going to get you the gigs. It ain't about the skill.

35:45Jason Stewart:Your face card is already lethal, but yeah, once you get a John Summit Bob, did you take your shirt off or was your costume on Halloween a shirtless offering?

35:54Chris Black:My costume was a kind of last minute charlie xcx it was a did you get the girls out um by the end of the night yeah a little bit i had i had a wine stain i had like a wine stain beater pleaser excuse me and i had like a i had tights on and a and a skirt i was honestly kind of unrecognizable like people did not know what was happening they're like do

36:22Jason Stewart:You know when Ezra goes on?

36:24Chris Black:He's been up there for three hours.

36:25Ezra Marcus:What is the... Did you wear anything over the tights?

36:29Chris Black:Yeah, I had like tights and then like a little miniskirt on.

36:33Ezra Marcus:Okay, nice. So you went to American Apparel and said, put it in the bag type shit.

36:36Chris Black:I borrowed a miniskirt. Hold on.

36:39Ezra Marcus:You're telling me you borrowed a miniskirt from a chick and it fit?

36:43Jason Stewart:Mm-hmm. And then when you went back to the flat, she's like, no, no, no, no, no. Leave it on. There we go. Oh, no, just pull it up. Just pull it up. I can't wait to get out of this.

36:54Chris Black:Yeah, I was like, wait, this is so much more convenient than this.

36:57Ezra Marcus:Yeah, it is a skirt. I have worn one in my life, and it is quite comfortable. No tights underneath. Tights, it turns out, extremely comfortable. Well, yeah, they're helping your circulation. Obviously, they're keeping everything zipped up, but they're also keeping the blood flowing.

37:13Chris Black:And it kind of helps with the tucking component of the costume as well.

37:18Jason Stewart:So your tuck was unclockable is what you're saying.

37:21Chris Black:I was serving fish.

37:28Ezra Marcus:Okay. That's a successful Halloween costume. Did you see other – because Halloween is my least favorite – one of my least favorite things on planet Earth, especially in New York, and going to jeans on Halloween, I would rather take my own life. Shout out to jeans. We love you guys over there. Yeah, I love jeans. Yeah, I love jeans. Can't wait to go to the farm. um but the but the crowd i imagine was was everybody going od costume is that sort of

37:55Chris Black:what is expected at a night like that yeah it was it was a lot it was it was like i don't know i feel like new york halloween is like the biggest holiday and it was like also that place love them as well it get i felt like there was a real kind of i don't know like bottle service people were spending they were charging like a hundred bucks on the door and people were paying it just to get into a club yeah when you're djing in a club a lot of costumes and they sell the tables on stage

38:22Jason Stewart:next to you usually the type of person who's going to spend 10 grand to have a table in a club they're not who you want to be hanging out with all night what was awesome they got they give you

38:32Chris Black:bad requests what was really awesome was some of my friend ben and i were djing we were he was also in drag he was jamae private school girl shout out to shout out to our king our king ben he was a he

38:43Ezra Marcus:He was a, I'm sorry, what? He was Jermaine, private school girl,

38:47Chris Black:you know, like the summer high choir. And so there's just the two of us on stage in wigs. And then the club gave us a security guard who was standing right next to us, keeping the hoi polloi from - Protect the dolls. Yeah, exactly. They gave us tasers as well.

39:04Ezra Marcus:They handed out a jeans branded taser. It came with a cookie. It was an amazing gift. You had a security guard, so so you didn't have to take any requests you guys could play your little fucking

39:15Chris Black:your shit without no problems bullshit soundcloud ukg remix okay what was the song of the night um then we'll move on what was the song of the night i mean we i i love playing like my little ukg remix of rihanna kind of thing and then at one point i was honestly such a blur but i played that one of those new two hollis tracks which i'm ashamed to say i can't get enough bro even

39:40Ezra Marcus:you're too old to play to hollis i know crowd go off or did or are they too old i don't think that

39:44Chris Black:that they they seemed a little old to know it but it definitely went crazy but i yeah i felt i was sure if it's good it's good i'm a solid like what 15 years older than this musician i don't know if

39:56Ezra Marcus:probably i don't know if i've ever heard to hollis if i'm keeping it a stack maybe i've listened once when when it first came out and i just knew it wasn't for me or maybe it is for me is that i

40:06Jason Stewart:I think it's more for you than most of this shit, honestly. You would listen to it and be like, okay, I get it. Versus like, turn this mess off.

40:14Ezra Marcus:Is there any guitars at all? Even fake ones? Or is it just like computer music? Okay, okay, okay.

40:20Chris Black:It's definitely just like kind of Zoomer.

40:23Ezra Marcus:Some glitched out trap shit.

40:25Chris Black:TikTok, yeah.

40:26Ezra Marcus:But it's also really catchy. But he's already fallen off. I mean, he's in that new Vans campaign, which I quite like, actually. Him with the - Haven't seen it. I think it's him, right? He's got the two-tone hair, right? Like his hair is blonde and then black at the bottom. I think you're thinking of NetSpend, bro. Oh, I'm thinking of NetSpend. You're right. NetSpend's in the Vans campaign. I apologize.

40:44Chris Black:NetSpend is like if Two Hollis was eight years old. Two Hollis is more of like a Rick Owens kind of. Then NetSpend is more of your -

40:50Jason Stewart:He's taller than you. He's like 6 '6", 100 pounds, bleach blonde, long hair.

40:55Ezra Marcus:I think NetSpend is also Rick Owens, but maybe just different section of the store. That's true. I don't think. I think all of those guys are - He shop at Little Ricky's. Yeah, he shows up at Rickies. I feel like all those guys, it's crazy that they wear Rick Owens because Rick Owens looks good on almost no one, and that's the thing that they're best at, actually. Wearing Rick Owens, two Hollis is better than wearing Rick Owens than making music, is what I'm trying to say. He actually makes it look good, which is impossible for most civilians.

41:26Chris Black:Absolutely. I mean, it helps that he's like this seven-foot-tall androgynous god, but it was like Rick Owens like cloned him and improved in his own physique

41:37Ezra Marcus:do you think he's out here do you think he's out here piping or do you think he's on Roblox I don't see why those are mutually exclusive

41:44Chris Black:I do

41:46Jason Stewart:I do

41:48Chris Black:I guess the FBI

41:49Jason Stewart:are you saying get you a girl that can do both

41:53Ezra Marcus:yeah look that's very possible I didn't think of that scenario

41:57Jason Stewart:so Roblox is your Raya is what you're saying. That's where you bag them and you take them home and tag them. I fuck with your program, Ezra. That's nice. Okay. It's been a few years since you wrote about the horses scandal, the restaurant in LA, the cat killing and all that stuff. I actually had dinner there last night. And have you thought about the story at all in the last few years since you wrote it? Or have you kept up or seen its evolution or talk to any of the people on the inside more?

42:31Chris Black:i i mean i went to horses maybe six months after i came out i when i and it was i thought it was incredible i hadn't been before it was excellent but um i was i was sort of fascinated by the um way that that turned into the frog club situation in new york i i didn't you know i didn't do i was

42:51Ezra Marcus:i was hoping i would never have to hear about frog club again but i knew jason would find a way to force it down my little ear holes.

42:57Chris Black:I never had the chance to enjoy Frog Club's green food.

43:03Ezra Marcus:And you know what the fucked up part is for me personally? I love frogs. It's one of the only, I'm a big Kermit guy. I don't really like real frogs. They're disgusting. But Kermit's one of my all-time great celebrities.

43:14Jason Stewart:But what did it feel like stolen froggy valor for you?

43:17Ezra Marcus:Like, y 'all don't deserve this frog. I didn't go in there. But you went, Jason. You did go, right, Jason?

43:24Jason Stewart:Yeah, the food was particularly disappointing.

43:28Ezra Marcus:I think Horses is always...

43:29Jason Stewart:To the point where you're offended by it.

43:31Ezra Marcus:Horses has always been fine. One of the worst hostesses I've ever encountered in my life that's so mean. I don't know why. Just clearly mean in a way that that job should not allow because that job is to be sort of welcoming and friendly as the face of the restaurant. Maybe they're mean only to you because you're a dick. I mean, I'm less of a dick than you are. and you've said i guess you've been pretty nice about horses i think horses is fine i think that people really wanted it to like it more than they should have i would say yeah but

44:02Chris Black:the drama was fun yeah the drama was fun and i think it you know it was just like fascinating thinking about this like husband and wife duo coming apart at the seams while running a restaurant that then became a celebrity you know whatever it became and then the kind of potential revelation after all of that that when she kind of that when she opened the restaurant and it just completely failed and it's like well was he for all of his you know obvious flaws as a pet owner and uh you know manager was he made was he that yeah he was the one but there but all the obvious

44:43Jason Stewart:flaws are obvious because a flawed person told you them. You know what I mean? These are not obvious verified flaws for anyone involved. You know what I mean?

44:54Chris Black:There's a lot of questions remaining about what actually happened there. I think it's kind of a he said, she said.

45:00Ezra Marcus:I hope they both never do anything again and we never have to hear about them again, but I think that's not going to be the case.

45:06Jason Stewart:Will works at the number one ranked restaurant in the world on the world's top 50.

45:12Ezra Marcus:Yeah, I guarantee you I don't want to eat at that restaurant. Not because of me.

45:15Jason Stewart:Wait, you definitely don't want to eat there.

45:17Ezra Marcus:Does he?

45:17Jason Stewart:Yeah.

45:18Ezra Marcus:Yeah, he's good. What is it? Let me find a number.

45:21Jason Stewart:You tried your best to take him down, but he's fine. Is it in France? No, it's in the – is it in India? Is it like Bombay maybe? Let me see.

45:30Ezra Marcus:He had to – look, he had to go international waters mode, but he did escape you and your wrath eventually. Yeah, he had a phase of posting pretty chaotic stuff about me on Instagram.

45:41Chris Black:Really pretty amazing.

45:42Ezra Marcus:Great poster. Great poster. He's one of our greatest posters. He's an edgelord. Yeah. Did somebody buy your story?

45:49Chris Black:It was options for a doc that never did anything with it.

45:53Ezra Marcus:Sure. I remember you because I think I talked to you about that.

45:56Jason Stewart:The restaurant is called Casper's in Bombay. That's - Mumbai.

46:01Chris Black:That's the number one restaurant in the world?

46:03Jason Stewart:Well, according to one of the lists. Okay. So it's the Conde Nast Traveler Restaurant Awards, number one restaurant, The Table in Mumbai. We got so many awards these days.

46:15Ezra Marcus:I feel like people get an award. I'm like, we got an Innovator Award? Every magazine is just giving out awards. I love it. I don't have any fucking awards.

46:24Chris Black:I've never gotten an award. I want to win like a – I want to know most songs played in one night DJ award.

46:31Ezra Marcus:I think 8-Tracks had you beat for 20 years,

46:35Jason Stewart:so you better figure it out probably true yeah what's your what's let's say you have a one hour to dj and you're playing at one of these quirked up art ho parties are we doing one song per minute are we doing two songs one song every 30 seconds how how synced are you syncing it's probably like

46:54Chris Black:somewhere in the in the 30 seconds to a minute because i'm usually like i have like a drum track and then i'm like i need to play like cardi over this and then it like doesn't quite work so i'm like okay i need you know and then i'll just keep going until i find like the perfect drum track rap vocal and then i'll just like stand there for maybe a minute and i'll get bored and soak it in

47:14Jason Stewart:yeah as the mash-up god i'm with you i did that's that's crazy though about well i didn't know yeah

47:22Chris Black:he was he was uh he had a great post at one point that was about him converting to it was like a It's a picture of some sort of document saying he converted to Judaism. And then the caption was, Ezra Marcus is Hamas.

47:40Jason Stewart:So not a fan of the story is what you're saying?

47:42Ezra Marcus:I guess not. But it seems like it's worked out for him. I didn't know that you got paperwork when you converted to Judaism. I thought it was more of a spiritual exercise. I didn't know you got a stamped piece of paper.

47:52Chris Black:I mean, I feel like one thing about us Jews is we are bureaucratic at the end of the day. There's a lot of...

48:00Jason Stewart:How do you... Do y 'all claim Azalea Banks now?

48:04Chris Black:Of course. It's huge for us.

48:09Jason Stewart:Yoga. To have her as a soldier on the front lines.

48:12Chris Black:We needed that. We really needed that. PR was not great. With everything going on.

48:16Jason Stewart:We needed a little boost and AB brought that. You needed a racist black chick up in the mix over there in Israel, didn't you?

48:22Chris Black:it's rare it's kanye like meet your match yeah yeah the only more chaotic two two of our greatest

48:31Ezra Marcus:twitter posters to ever live that have both sort of spiraled into hell uh unfortunately for us the

48:39Jason Stewart:viewers so uh has your family accepted that you voted for zoron or have you not told them yet

48:45Chris Black:it's funny i they're all cool with it i feel like i they started out maybe more on like the not full-blown Netanyahu crazy Zionist but with like you know a little bit further than your typical person like me would be and we would really get into it and then as they've sort of like come more and more towards the kind of you know anti-Zionist side of it I've had to go because I love getting that reaction at them I've had to go further and further into kind of the into the to the extent that the last time I was talking I was like at a family thing they were like so what do you think about everything what do you think should what happened with the mayor like what do you want to happen i was like we like well i mean hopefully you know we will be conscripted into like sharia sex communism that's that that's the best outcome for us like we will we will new york specifically will nuke tel aviv and we will be and they were like and and and they were my family member was like well i disagree but i can see why you would say that just keeping an open level of discourse going you know healthy i was like what do i have to say what do i have to say to make you i want i want everyone what's going on what's going on what's

49:59Ezra Marcus:going on with with zo's wife she feels like a vice employee so i feel like somebody we know might have hit before zo well they met on hinge that's out of the question they met on hinge so she was she was in the streets there's a theory going around in one of my group chats that they're lying and it was actually Raya, but that looks bad. So they've changed the story to Hinge. On the other side of that coin, would Maybach Zoe have been allowed into Raya pre-politics because he's a herb? No, absolutely not.

50:30Chris Black:He was a local assemblyman. That's even, that's like, that's the, like that's not, there's no way.

50:38Ezra Marcus:He was an assemblyman, he was an assemblyman slash rapper. I don't want to take his artistic.

50:43Chris Black:What was his, what was his rap name?

50:44Ezra Marcus:it was like big cardamom or something no yeah it had car yeah a lot of people are put it's pretty funny actually like stereo gum and websites like that are posting the emails that he sent it is

50:55Jason Stewart:young cardamom slash mr cardamom wow the guy loves cardamom damn bro people are yeah people

51:03Ezra Marcus:are posting the emails he sent being like hi i'm a young rapper from new york here's my demo my dude let this guy live man like we don't need how many likes are you gonna get on that you know

51:13Chris Black:Yeah, I mean, I guess that can be one more amazing feature of our kind of incoming Sharia communism is just like young cardamom national anthem in the schools every day.

51:25Jason Stewart:Do you think he'll read it? Yeah. We all have to start listening to J. Cole, government mandated. You know he loves.

51:30Ezra Marcus:Actually, those videos of him behind the DJ booth waving his hands in the air, I've never seen anything worse. I cannot believe that exists. but I think to win it makes you miss Eric Adams a little bit doesn't it I mean he knew how to behave himself in the club what I've learned about politics from Zoe and I I knew this before but I guess I realized it on a deeper level is that you have to be corny to win and that is just part of the deal and and almost at this point the more corny the more like viral shows you go on and

52:06Jason Stewart:fucking clubs you go to same thing for actors you know yeah but it's it's like it's different

52:11Ezra Marcus:actors we don't expect anything from them because we know they're sort of like soulless people looking for fame politicians we sort of expect more you just described a politician though

52:21Jason Stewart:with every word that you said describing an actor yeah but politicians are they're meant to be more

52:27Ezra Marcus:than that but we've we now can't allow them to do that they have to do the same thing that an actor

52:33Chris Black:does i mean has there ever been a non-corny politician no but i guess there wasn't one

52:39Ezra Marcus:that was directly marketed at me he's kind of a slick little cucumber yeah it's true i feel like zoran is like lcd sound system where it's been forced down my throat because it's supposed to be for me and my people and it makes it harder to not be corny when that's the case yeah you know

52:55Chris Black:I think it's something about just like millennials taking over the kind of like gears of the media apparatus that it's like, finally, we get one, you know, and it's like millennials are probably the corniest generation, just given the confluence of how just like the stuff that like we it's this kind of like, you know, Obama, post Obama hope stuff, I think never really left us at the end of the day. so just finding a way to kind of rebrand that in like for the tiktok short form video era i think is a recipe for obviously the kind of the corniest video content ever created but i can also

53:36Jason Stewart:see why it works so well yeah but i mean i guess when when obama won you know we had young jeezy songs about it and you know it was like a like i don't i don't see any current rapper writing a song about Zoran. So I think the Korn level has really been increased. It's good that he's in office, but he's not going to be swagged out.

54:01Chris Black:It's true. I can't imagine anything worse than... Sneaker shopping with Zoran? Ken Carson making a song.

54:11Ezra Marcus:Oh, damn. We got a new Leon Thomas song coming out about Zoran. This motherfucker changed my life. I mean I think that the Obama thing Was obviously a much bigger deal Because he was president But do you think Zoe can take this shit all the way Or do you think he's going to maybe stop At the Senate or the House And not make it all the way to Pennsylvania Ave

54:32Chris Black:I thought that I honestly know so little about politics I looked this up He's ineligible to be president

54:39Ezra Marcus:Oh because he wasn't born here?

54:41Chris Black:Because he wasn't born in the US

54:42Ezra Marcus:That seems like a pretty big problem If you have ambition

54:46Jason Stewart:And neither was Obama, but he figured it out.

54:48Ezra Marcus:Exactly. Good point. Good point, Jason. Good point. Good point. Damn, I did not know that. That seems like a, if you're that as ambitious as he seems, that's reason enough to go into a different field, in my opinion. True.

55:01Chris Black:Maybe by the time he's done, it'll be a sort of like new kind of global imperium headquartered in like nowadays. And he's a professor anymore.

55:12Jason Stewart:He can build this into his media empire that will be centered in the lot radio parking lot.

55:17Ezra Marcus:I guess these guys can't make any money anyway. So the best case is you get famous from being mayor of New York and then you can do whatever you want and be rich for the rest of your life.

55:25Jason Stewart:It's Megan. He's Megan Markling. He's going to get a Netflix show where he goes around with cab drivers and they take him to his favorite spot. And then he goes on a subway and asks them what their take is. And he can have a rich career doing that. No problem. Dude, we better actually.

55:39Ezra Marcus:Kareem better be looking over his left and right shoulder. this motherfucker's coming for him that's it i didn't even think about this i know about

55:44Jason Stewart:cardamoms too bro we're gonna have like uh by the time we're done it'll be like

55:50Chris Black:putin in the hague having subway take at gunpoint

55:56Ezra Marcus:i like that i think we should take it all the way i wonder how much i wonder if zoran's gonna do like hot ones and shit once it's like one like can he get off the hamster wheel of content once he's in office, even though I know it's time to get to work. I wonder if he's addicted to the shindig, though.

56:17Jason Stewart:If it's like, shit,

56:19Ezra Marcus:I gotta do something. Perfectly imperfect? Fuck it, I'll do it.

56:23Jason Stewart:He's like, the subway system is good, but I'm trying to get my tiny desk concert on. Tiny desk is what my main objective is right now.

56:30Ezra Marcus:How far could a guy take it?

56:31Chris Black:He needs to do his... You guys know the Rogue Arms videos? You know what I'm talking about? it's like these like it's like zoomer vintage store they're like tell me what you're wearing and how much it costs and it's like it's always like they have like cat ears and like a little

56:46Jason Stewart:boo boo that and like anyway they they're they're dressed like northwest yeah and he's like a suit

56:52Ezra Marcus:from suit supply tie from suit supply the suits of the suit supply of it all i was like bro you you can't tell people that you know you got to keep that low i don't think suits i think suits

57:03Jason Stewart:supply the the reputation has has improved a little bit it's on the real real i don't i don't

57:09Ezra Marcus:think it has such a no that's because the real real has is taking all comers that's not because

57:15Jason Stewart:the suit supply has improved they didn't take my gantt last week chris they draw the line at gantt okay let's talk about bitcoin whales ezra you wrote a story your most recent big story um and And I was thinking about how when you are a billionaire or 100 millionaire with Bitcoin, your life is kind of constantly in danger now. You have a team of security that rivals the Migos at any given time. Are you worried that because of your whistleblowing that you're possibly in danger ever as you're uncovering these massive stones?

57:55Chris Black:no i've never i've never felt in any way personally in danger i mean i'm afraid of getting sued this kind of the worst i can imagine happening um i i don't know i mean i think i think those guys in particular have a lot more to worry about right now than of course of course

58:13Jason Stewart:assassinating some has that has anyone ever sent you a phone call or an email saying like you know i wouldn't i wouldn't dig down this corner if you knew what was good for you kind

58:24Chris Black:of thing honestly no i've gotten a lot of legal threats um that's just sort of like bullshit like you know some chat gpt lawyer hopefully yeah but i've never had someone threaten my life or anything like that well that ends today yeah yeah there's a lot of hitmen who are like wow i never thought about that i should hit him up yeah it would it would work it would work too

58:46Jason Stewart:yeah fellas just let you know if you tell me to stop uh digging sniffing up that tree i will

58:52Ezra Marcus:immediately stop absolutely is that whole shit has the bottom just kind of fallen out of it i don't pay attention because it's so lame the bitcoin is still pumping no but like i'm saying like with the nft thing where you had friends telling you if you don't do this you're so stupid i feel like there was a bitcoin crypto air like three four years ago it was the same attitude i don't hear anything about any of that stuff anymore at all yeah on a daily basis i think as far as i

59:17Chris Black:can tell and i'm certainly no not like you know on the forums reading and stuff in depth but the kind of you know bored ape yeah moment and all that came along with that when it was like oh ludicrous is playing the board ape party it's like that kind of stuff seems like paris hilton's on kimmel and they've both got their apes like it doesn't seem like there's any attempt i think what's happened is that there's no longer any attempt to pretend like this stuff is anything other than just a speculative asset. No one's like, oh, we're going to put X, Y, and Z on the blockchain and we're going to live our whole life.

59:49Chris Black:No, it's just like it's a fucking thing you can bet on.

59:52Ezra Marcus:Blockchain is a word. It's gambling. I don't hear about blockchain at all.

59:55Chris Black:Blockchain died a slow death. I don't know what it is, but it's definitely not something that we're going to be putting various things on anymore as far as I can tell.

1:00:03Jason Stewart:I think now that the crypto haze has lifted and now people are seeing these rich whales getting kidnapped and tortured and you know having their little you either keep your your password or like you keep it on like a little private hard drive keychain or whatever it's easier to steal a billion dollars in crypto than it is in cash or that's what's so fascinating about about that story to me is and

1:00:29Chris Black:is that the whole kind of like one of the things that they were you know that they were using as a reason why we should all have have bitcoin is like it's that we can get away from the banking system which okay i guess i guess there's somebody for whom that means something like i don't mind going to the bank whatever hey bro i'm tired of these guys having access to all my data okay we need to get away from this and so it's like okay fire you're you can you can be the bank do you have a yeah do you have a massive steel vault encased around your body at all times because if not do you live in a condo in miami run up on you yeah somebody can just torture you and get

1:01:07Jason Stewart:your stuff if they could take the jewels from the lube they can definitely catch you slipping at raisin canes drive-thru and you don't you don't have 37 billion dollars which guy which guy usb stick with 7 million in bitcoin on it bro it's it's over but also i know a lot of people who have crypto who have a good amount of money in in bitcoin and they don't talk about it the same way people don't talk about hey i have a bunch of jewelry in my safe in my closet right now it's

1:01:37Chris Black:just like yeah and these are uncertain times i think it drives these people crazy because one of the main things that being into bitcoin early got you was this like you know yacht flexing mode and not being able to do that it's like pulsing vein and forehead meme of like these guys want nothing more than to have their iced out you know nft board ape chain and now you can't have it i mean

1:02:00Jason Stewart:they say it's it's not it's not worth being famous anymore back in the day you get pulled over by the cops they say you know we'll give you an escort home the doors of life open up for you as a celebrity and nowadays it's it's quite the opposite you cannot you have zero freedom you're constantly

1:02:17Ezra Marcus:under surveillance and it's not enjoyable i saw a video this morning of asap rocky jogging in paris in a full puma sweatsuit and sneakers and i was like this is the this is the worst version of surveillance like this guy this is embarrassing was he going really fast or was he just jogging it was a pap it was a pap jog no this was a pap he was wearing a full puma track suit that was for a chanel commercial where he got to propose to margaret qualley which is obviously just wanted

1:02:47Jason Stewart:to make sure we weren't talking about different asap rocky running videos in the last i'm just

1:02:51Ezra Marcus:like it you people you really can't do anything anywhere if you have any level of fame but i think now the rich guys that ezra's talking about they do it to themselves on tiktok like they they're do it like that no one wants this from them they're giving it they're giving it to us but

1:03:07Jason Stewart:they're so desperate for pussy they're willing to put their life on the line to flex off on the yacht and a lot of these guys aren't even bad looking it's like they're not they're like buff they're you know but they're just one of them look like joe camel but some of them are regular guys and they need we need crypto queer eye for the crypto guy go in there change your whole shit up nobody's gonna want to steal your shit anymore change your life yeah i mean the guys from my story i think were were by all accounts like certainly they were kind of handsome kind of

1:03:35Chris Black:charming at certain points in their lives they were definitely pulling but i think that they also had a kind of like to be the kind of person that gets into crypto early you have to i think that that means that you probably had something seriously wrong with you in the early 2010s and that never goes away from a psychological perspective that's that's true that's true i you

1:03:55Ezra Marcus:You've got to spend a lot of time in places that I don't want to go to get there.

1:03:59Jason Stewart:Yeah, I mean, I used to talk about it with DJs all the time, like a dead mouse kind of syndrome, where you've got a guy who should not be hanging around with drunk models five nights a week. He was not built for it. He was taking apart his PC tower in 2010, not doing bench presses and getting his dick sucked. So you get the bends once you enter the booth.

1:04:22Ezra Marcus:There really is a certain kind of guy that builds his own PC. Yeah. And that's a very clear line in the sand between guys.

1:04:30Jason Stewart:And they're not opt-in cocksmen.

1:04:33Chris Black:You know, building a PC is just like making love to a woman. I've heard that. I've heard that before.

1:04:38Jason Stewart:Okay. I need 3 ,000 words on that yesterday, Ezra. Stop what you're doing. Put down your... Yeah. So can you give us a sneak peek on what you're working on next, your next behemoth? I'm hoping it's NBA poker rooms.

1:04:53Chris Black:No, I mean, I don't know if I should even. There is a story that I'm that I'm chasing that I think a lot of people are chasing. And I mean, honestly, I don't even I think it's fine. I can just it's it's such a big thing in the headlines. I mean, and I haven't gotten anywhere with this really, but I'm fascinated by the David story, as I think so many people are.

1:05:11Jason Stewart:Yeah. Yeah.

1:05:13Chris Black:Like, I don't you know, if anyone listening knows anything about it, feel for please get in touch.

1:05:17Ezra Marcus:I heard from one of my sources they're hiring people only from private equity and VC and it's like they're paying more than a protein bar.

1:05:26Jason Stewart:We're talking about the rapper with the body found in his Tesla not the protein bar. I love that. I don't give a fuck about that. Holy shit.

1:05:35Chris Black:You're telling me this protein bar has a VC background?

1:05:40Ezra Marcus:No, no, no. I was talking about the hiring process. I was hearing they were paying an unbelievable sum to people to lure them over from financial... You'll spend money to make money. David's a smart guy. Because you're treating it like that. David, the other story, his homie clearly did it and put the body in the car.

1:06:00Chris Black:I also saw that David's protein bar just released a new bar that's just a piece of cod.

1:06:06Ezra Marcus:That's called marketing, Ezra. You should look into it. They sent me the cod.

1:06:11Chris Black:Any good?

1:06:12Jason Stewart:It's as good as a piece of frozen fish could be yeah i don't think that's i don't think it's meant to be good but what do you sorry and i excuse your grandmother would not have approved of it but in a pinch you know if i'm doing

1:06:23Ezra Marcus:a i'd already put in a blender and zip it up i'd already forgotten about the david the murderer story because i feel like if he was guilty he would be arrested do you feel that way i mean i

1:06:33Chris Black:have absolutely no idea i i i think i i did so baffling to me um do you think that donald trump's

1:06:39Jason Stewart:team created the David scandal to move away from the Epstein files.

1:06:42Chris Black:Oh, that's a really good theory.

1:06:44Jason Stewart:That is not a good theory. My theory about David bars is better than that theory. Do not do that. Trump created other things to distract away from that, but not, not the David thing. He wasn't privy to his music. Yeah. I mean, I agree with you. I think he would have been in custody by now if it actually was him, but it's one of the, Just like the kid who almost shot Trump's ear off, we don't know a single thing about him.

1:07:11Chris Black:That one almost makes sense to me. I can understand the conspiratorial. It just seems like he was one of those kids who got Discord kind of radicalized.

1:07:21Ezra Marcus:No, it really does feel strangely online for an R &B rap. That doesn't cross over in my mind, but he's young.

1:07:32Jason Stewart:For a minor to be found decomposing in a famous person's car, quote unquote famous person, that's a juicy story. And if they give zero follow up to it, yeah. I mean, everyone wants to know. We need the 3 ,000 word cut article on it yesterday. Imagine if they sent someone from the cut to write about that, how funny that would be. I mean, anyone would. I mean, it's a huge story. So many unanswered. whenever that happens an underage murder and a famous person i do wonder though ezra where do

1:08:07Ezra Marcus:you like do you think that rolling stones spending a much like who i mean it because it's so it's kind of niche like that doesn't work for like vanity fair it's a little too la times new york times feels feels right la times la times people barely let their dog piss on that new york times

1:08:25Jason Stewart:maybe sf gate is that what you want chris yeah no i just i don't know what i don't know where it

1:08:29Ezra Marcus:would actually resonate besides i mean yeah i guess besides the new york times i don't know who else would actually do it yeah i don't know i mean i'm i'm working on it but it would be cool

1:08:38Jason Stewart:if tmz started doing heady thousand word articles like the cut you guys should launch you guys should

1:08:44Chris Black:launch an investigative editorial arm you guys should have a a quarterly if chris if chris got

1:08:51Jason Stewart:to get his if what if chris got to be you know the editor-in-chief of a just jared style gossip blogger paparazzi website that's honestly his final form that's the best that is my final

1:09:05Ezra Marcus:skills zendaya stuns yeah my problem is i don't care about david or what happened to him or the you know what i mean it's it's interesting on some level but like if it was kid cuddy you'd be paying more attention i didn't know who david was before the story i knew who david was before the story because i listened to joe budden and that's the only reason though like because it's like an r &b sleeper you know it's not like it's not it's not because i i love it so much but he was bubbling in the underground well all right ezra let's get you out to let's get you out to tarzana or wherever his house was and you can start sniffing around in the garbage for clues yeah come on bro that's

1:09:41Chris Black:the fun part what do you guys think i should i should investigate i mean the the nba gambling the i mean pablo torre's already done it i feel like yeah yeah yeah but he's doing day of podcasts

1:09:52Jason Stewart:about it whereas ezra does the 18 month investigative journalism piece and it's it's a different story but that's all like what i was saying like are you worried about your safety when you start sniffing around you know crime families and mafia ties that's when you get the

1:10:10Chris Black:phone call you know yeah i mean that seems like because there i was reading about that other maybe the same there's like a israeli mafia backed poker game scandal that i was just like i can't imagine a scarier person to be dealing with than like a hollywood hills private poker game israeli mafia guy uh trying to collect yeah yeah that's not yeah that's not great that's not great it's

1:10:38Ezra Marcus:a room you do not want to be found in i also think the nba stuff there's people that i feel like you find stuff that's pretty niche and really and make it like interesting and like further reaching than it should be whereas the nba thing there's a thousand guys at espn that have dedicated their entire life to basketball and they're frothing at the mouth you know what i mean it's like a it's

1:10:59Chris Black:too popular almost yeah i also feel like it's in a way i mean kind of run of the mill it's like yeah they're ripping people off at private poker games like no shit it seems like that's that seems to be from just from seeing what professional poker players i'm saying about it they're like

1:11:14Ezra Marcus:yeah if you're going to one of these games that's what's happening that's what's happening yeah i think the i think the intrigue only starts because the players were throwing yeah games for sure and then you see clips of them throwing the games and it's super obvious they were throwing the games i

1:11:28Jason Stewart:think the other intriguing part to me sorry ezra is is when you see these people who have contracts where they're getting paid hundreds of millions of dollars a year and they're so addicted to gambling that they're willing to throw it all away for you know 20 grand that's or whatever yeah with these with these like weird things you know and like to be like how could your head get into that situation as a rich person well you know that's what i want to read about that's

1:11:54Chris Black:it's true and it's always sort of like there's it's like their random friend is the one it's

1:11:59Jason Stewart:like oh yeah like i'm i'm telling my like my random translator interpreter from japan just

1:12:05Ezra Marcus:got me into this man i think that the i i mean i think that the the gambling taking over our world is the most interesting like the fact that you can gamble on anything anytime anywhere i think this is just a symptom of that at a very high level but i think it's like there are guys like us that have ruined their entire lives gambling on their phone like while they're at work yeah

1:12:29Chris Black:that's crazier to me i was thinking about that with with these new companies like polymarket and and call she and just like what is the future of that like will because obviously what those companies are trying to do is is make it so that every single facet of your life can can have a wager on it and i had this idea in the shower of like what if like you know you're gonna go to the gym and it'll be like the call she gym and they're gonna like give you odds on your weight loss goals or whatever or like you'll be able to bet on like or like oh somebody's at this like fucking like you name it celebrity like mr beast is is like will he hit his his weight loss goal i like five

1:13:07Jason Stewart:to one or something like that and then i could go in and be like you can predict the day mr beast is going to be assassinated and it's a you know it's a million and one long shot if that if that parlay hits you're the richest guy in the world or i think about that all the time like you know will will how many streams will two hollis have by 2027 or what you know just like bed being

1:13:28Chris Black:bullish on just everything like every single thing that happens is going to essentially anything be something that somebody else can make money on which is fascinating it'll be the only it'll be

1:13:39Jason Stewart:the only way to make our lives interesting is when there's some money all right jason that that being

1:13:43Ezra Marcus:that being the case what what are the odds on when ezra's next story comes out i'm giving it

1:13:47Chris Black:three to six months i take the over i take the over on that okay so it's november

1:13:55Jason Stewart:i was gonna say march 6 2026 okay all right no that's that's that's fair i think that's that's

1:14:01Ezra Marcus:what five months there feels confident there i could see him shaking his head he seems he feels good about that that's that's ambitious i'm on i'm on a kind of like i'm on kind of like a

1:14:09Chris Black:two a year pace these days okay all right so we could push it a lot of time to practice your

1:14:15Jason Stewart:djing your beat matching there ezra all right look ezra thank you for joining us on how long on people can find you on the worldwide web and for a guy who only writes two stories a year he has a lot of stories written and they're all you know big and they're great i love them i love

1:14:31Ezra Marcus:they're all big and long and thick wow whoa whoa whoa damn i don't i don't see anything wrong with

1:14:38Jason Stewart:that yeah no lies detected mama okay ezra thank you for for chatting with us hope you had a fun

1:14:44Chris Black:My pleasure. Thanks guys. Take care.

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