876. - Madi Diaz

8:06Jason Stewart:How much cheddar are you pulling for Vegas?

8:09Madi Diaz:I'm not pulling any cheddar. I took out the normal 500. I don't have any. What would I do? I don't know how to gamble. Like I literally, like Shiv was explaining gambling to me earlier. I don't know how. I'm like, so what are you saying? They're saying roulette is the best chance of winning is what they were explaining to me. Because there's so many things you can bet on and the odds. But again, I don't want to go down this road. I think it's too dangerous for me. So I'll happily stick to the spa, the spas and gyms I'm used to versus the, I don't want to go to Vegas.

8:42Jason Stewart:Don't go chasing jackpots, Chris.

8:43Madi Diaz:I don't want to go to Vegas for 72 hours and come back, you know, smoking a pack of Paul Malls every day on the slots. You know, sitting, my face is sunburned from sitting at the Sex and the City slot machine for too many hours. It's not worth it. It's not worth it. I'm not willing to risk it all.

8:58Jason Stewart:Suddenly you've become a master sports gambler. You have a lot of parlays running.

9:04Madi Diaz:Imagine if I knew what a parlay was and then I was able to make it work in my favor. Unbelievable.

9:10Jason Stewart:You don't know what a parlay is, Chris? Oh, come on.

9:12Madi Diaz:It's when you make several bets and they all hit, right? Yes, yes, exactly. Okay. I feel like there's probably more nuance and detail to it. All of our gambling addicts, please chime in. No need to.

9:22Jason Stewart:No need to.

9:23Madi Diaz:All of our people who have lost their families, please chime in.

9:26Jason Stewart:I like that you're doing Vegas Thanksgiving. Well, first of all, the stack, the gambling, you know, it's not for you. Just take the 500 cash, hopefully in ones, and then just give it to Alex and just say, you know, it's your world, girl. Just like casino style. She'll come into the room at the Aria or wherever y 'all are staying at. Just a bunch of ones all over the bed. Ah, I can't believe this is my life. This is so crazy.

9:51Madi Diaz:I hate turkey. Yeah, I'm hoping that, because we're going to Nobu on Thanksgiving, and I'm hoping they haven't. Do you think Nobu has tried to develop some sort of turkey sushi for the special occasion? Do you think there's like a cranberry sauce, like teeny?

10:06Jason Stewart:You know, I just, Nobu on Thanksgiving, we are open for dinner on Thanksgiving with familiar favorites, as well as new specials. I don't know if they're going to say what those specials are.

10:18Madi Diaz:I would like turkey tempura with my usual dipping sauce, please.

10:23Jason Stewart:I know that the Four Seasons Nobu, the Four Seasons Sensei, they're doing an herb-roasted turkey breast and leg with traditional stuffing. Of course, the cranberry compote will have a yuzu guava.

10:38Madi Diaz:Thank God. Thank God.

10:40Jason Stewart:Thank God. And the miso braised lamb shank will have a celery root puree with a gremolata. Okay, so we're fine.

10:46Madi Diaz:We're finding ways to make it our own.

10:48Jason Stewart:Yeah, there's a good, it's like we're going to do maple roasted yams and whatever, but it's going to have flavors of the Orient woven in nicely, I believe.

10:58Madi Diaz:Of course. Yeah, we're doing the rare Nobu Carbone B2B. Jesus. I feel like that's what you have to do when you're going here. So I'm looking forward to it.

11:11Jason Stewart:Wait, that's not the same day. That's one day and the next day. No, no, no.

11:14Madi Diaz:No, no, no. Yeah, no. I'm not that crazy. I'm not a food influencer. I'm not that. I'm not the guy in Japan eating 16 fucking pancakes in one day. You're not going to do a little bang bang. I'm not going to do a little bang bang. But yeah, I'm looking forward to it. And the weather's not going to be, I think the weather's not that warm, which is, you know, that's upsetting. But we'll work past that.

11:33Jason Stewart:I mean, it gets colder in Vegas than it does in LA during these special little months. I think we're going to go down to Laguna, actually.

11:41Madi Diaz:Nice. I mean, I feel like it's the best time to go there because there's no weddings.

11:46Jason Stewart:No weddings. It's too cold to go in the water, but it's really good weather for looking at the beach.

11:52Madi Diaz:Sure. That's two different temps. That really is two different temps.

11:55Jason Stewart:I'm talking to my brother right now. He said he's eating biscuits and gravy right now.

11:59Madi Diaz:Where is he? Is he in Michigan or is he in LA?

12:02Jason Stewart:No, he was at Bub and Grandma's. He had a meeting and get pushed. I gotta go there.

12:06Madi Diaz:I gotta go there. I've never been there. Dude, it's so good. I know it's good. It's just like a little bit too far out of the way, but I want to go.

12:13Jason Stewart:When Paul comes to town and we hit Dunsmore for dinner, we'll do Bubz for lunch. They're right next door. Just kind of knock it all out.

12:19Madi Diaz:Sounds good to you? Oh, that's perfect. I can't wait to hang out on the block. We have a guest today. Maddie Diaz is a singer-songwriter. Actually, her album, damn, her album that she released last year was nominated for a Grammy. She's already got a new one. This is churning it out. She's a churner. Came out in October, but she's a Nashville resident, which always leads me to a lot of questions. because living there is a choice, even if you are a professional musician. I feel like it's a real lifestyle choice. But she did some time in LA too and then left. So I feel like maybe she has some shit to talk about the East Side that we could get into.

12:57Madi Diaz:Get out your fucking wallet. It's time to talk about Rocket Money, baby. I'm trying to save some money. I was talking to a friend of the show, Bryn Walner, yesterday. And she was saying, if you look at your subscriptions, you could be living like me. That's what she was saying. She was saying, And if you use rocket money to find out which subscriptions you were paying for without your knowledge, then maybe you could be in, you know, in Switzerland like me, you could be in Geneva, you could be at F1.

13:19Jason Stewart:Yeah, it does make sense. I think it really boils down to, you know, everyone knows it, but they just don't have the time. They don't want to do it. Everyone knows they can go clean all the clothes out of their closet, sell them, and then take that money and buy, you know, a dream vacation or a trip to Geneva or a new Rolex. But you just don't do it. You don't have the time. It's too much work. Luckily, nowadays, places like Rocket Money do it all for you. They're happy to do it for you. So then all that money that you're saving, we can turn that into truly whatever it is that you want. Just make sure that you're not just taking all that money and resubscribing to the same services that you didn't use before.

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15:25Madi Diaz:Oh, God damn it. All right, so head to squarespace.com slash howlong for a free trial. And when you're ready to launch, use offer code howlong to save 10 % off your first purchase of a website or domain. Hi, TalkHouse Network listeners. It's your old friend, Nels Klein from Wilco here. Wilco is touring this summer, and we'd love to see you somewhere on the road. We're playing shows this June and July in Rochester Hills, Michigan, Chautauqua, New York, Lafayette, New York, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, Vienna, Virginia, Forest Hills, New York, Portland, Maine, Tulsa, Oklahoma, Memphis, Tennessee, La Grange, Georgia, Charleston, South Carolina, Virginia Beach, Virginia, Wheeling, West Virginia, and Columbus, Ohio.

16:10Madi Diaz:Plus, there are even more dates, some with Willie Nelson that I didn't even mention here. So please go to wilkoworld.net to see the full list of dates. We'll see you on the road this summer.

16:23Oh, I think I did it. Can you hear me?

16:25Jason Stewart:Yeah. Yes. Oh, I love that. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. You love it when headphones work? I really do. I mean, I'm not like super tech bro. I do my very, very best. And currently I have like a light verb on my voice on my end. So that's just, you know, it's like. When you say verb, you mean reverb? I do. I mean reverb. Sorry for the breed. That's fine.

16:50Madi Diaz:I have to say, I know you're in the industry, but I have, and I am only a mere outsider, but I've never heard reverb shortened before in my entire life. You never heard of the verb, bro? I mean, I've heard of the verb as in a kind of word, of course. Do you call echo co? Yeah, like where does it stop? Oh, my God. Honestly, if someone said verb to me, I would think reverb. I wouldn't think of the descriptor of the class. I wouldn't think in Mad Libs is what I'm saying. You got to touch grass. You got to put that guitar down and get outside. There's English majors. I know people in Nashville are a little slow, but you can find somebody.

17:30It will not do it.

17:31Jason Stewart:And I will use my AI technology plugins to remove all the verb from your voice, rendering you nice and clean and monotone. Don't worry. Thank you so much. And with no descriptors. With no descriptors and with no zhuzh. Thank you. There'll be a vast lack of artifacts and dynamic range in your file. Don't worry. All right. All right. You guys got to stop

17:49Madi Diaz:because I don't know what you're talking about. This is getting sexual in my mind and I don't even know what's going on. I mean, verb is a sexy thing in my opinion. But yes. Sorry. Thank you. But I guess is that the most, I feel like reverb is the most known outside of the musician sphere.

18:04Jason Stewart:Top five effects, dead or alive. Reverb, gotta be number one.

18:08Madi Diaz:It's the only effect a regular person would know. Like, I mean, what else is there? I don't even think I can make a big muff joke to somebody that just works at Target. Do people know what delay is? You know what I mean? Like, I mean, that's what you said. I think delay is different because it's a word that has a meaning. Like, we know what it means, so you can put it together with context clues. You know what I'm saying? whereas reverb is a little bit of its own animal out there on the island that's true you're right

18:32Jason Stewart:you're right okay okay yeah delay you're like that's what i know versus like what is a limiter or uh you know a compressor or right chorus or saturation etc oh my god you're just like just throwing them out there look i love it i mean as a as a content creator i have to know about all of these things yeah when you're on the mic you know you need you need the vocab you Larry. That's true.

18:57Madi Diaz:I mean apparently I've never listened to our podcast but it sounds good from what I hear so I'm happy that Jason knows these words I don't know.

19:05Jason Stewart:I use Ableton Live. We just got an update 12.3 it has stem separation. How do you feel about that Maddie? Are you familiar with this technology? I love separation and I will say Chris Just like are you talking about like divorce or are you talking I'm talking about audio tracks. I love the separate the separate entities yes chris your your voice your voice is like very close and like very kind of you know like it's like right in my ear hole and jason i will say like i know i can i can feel the room that you're in you know so i like i like that you guys are doing like a totally different thing you know you guys are like one brand together but you're still separate entities yeah i'm in a room that has a rug a couch i have wood right here so there's you know it's a more It's a more acoustic friendly space.

19:53Jason Stewart:Chris likes to live a little more brutal, minimalist kind of vibe.

19:57Madi Diaz:We have concrete floors here. So it's not doing any favors, I would guess. Did you guys talk? Do you guys talk texture before you guys got into the podcast business? I try not to talk texture at all unless it's about a pair of pants or something. I don't know.

20:12Jason Stewart:I mean, I used to get angry at Chris's texture because it was just cement, cement ceiling, cement wall cement floor and then and then one like eleven thousand dollar couch and then you

20:26Madi Diaz:know that's about it just so i would be like offensive he's making me he's making me sound like we live like conde west or something it's not that it's not that good trust me it's not that good but like rick rubin he lives like he lives like rick owens or rick rubin it's it's

20:44Jason Stewart:but uh but that's i think that's just kind of i think that so many people who live in chris's neighborhood you know chinatown manhattan dime square adjacent that's like a podcast hub so i almost know the text like it has a podcast texture that's more familiar to my ears than a stupid podcast studio at iheart radio with like you know glass walls and 4k cameras and shit i like the sound of tenement housing and sirens and people yelling and shit we keep it real we keep

21:19Madi Diaz:it real maddie we do it different than these other losers we don't have a mother ship ever

21:23Jason Stewart:heard a red scare it's kind of like that but for dudes okay okay yeah it's it's just for guys it's

21:33Madi Diaz:just for guys you know just some guys stuff just a bunch of guys like real guys just guys real ones But I don't think that – I don't notice audio. I'm famously not a sound geek. Like I don't – I can't tell the difference. I can tell the difference between like awful and good. But above the good level, I don't think I can tell the difference. I feel like that's fairly normal. I dated a guy actually for a while whose – this is bizarre. I don't even know what this is. But I have an ex whose mom cannot tell the difference between a raw vocal being accompanied by just a piano and a full band production.

22:13She literally cannot hear the difference. It's the craziest thing I've ever heard. And she just doesn't have it.

22:22Madi Diaz:Okay, so you're sending your ex almost mother-in-law some different versions of songs. And she's like, these are great. And she doesn't notice that. No idea.

22:31Jason Stewart:Okay, so you'll be like, here's an Elliott Smith song. I mean, one of your songs. It's like you, a guitar, and a microphone. And then you're like, here's Polyphonic Spree with a 12-piece orchestra, a harpist. And they're like, I can't tell the difference between these two songs. It's absolutely fascinating. That's so cool. Bob Dylan on one end, Pink Floyd on the other. Same vibe. Same exact song.

22:57Madi Diaz:Does she play music herself? Does she have any interest in music? Or is it strictly her ears just work that way? I think her ears just work that way. I mean, she should probably have training. Or her ears don't work that way. I'm just saying she's not a pianist herself is what I'm trying to say. No, and that's probably, yeah, I think that's probably for the best. Yeah, but people like to pretend. People like to pretend. I know so many managers. I'm like, Brer, you're an emailer. Get off the board. that was always my when i managed to get off the board when i was at management band there was like oh come come listen to the mixes and i'm like no dude send this shit to me when i'm done when you're done so i can go make us some money like i don't like this ain't gonna do us any me giving i got

23:42Jason Stewart:no input on the on the 1400 hertz db ducking it three like they're like you know who's mixing

23:49Madi Diaz:this i'm like i don't give a fuck if lord algae is mixing this bro let's get this shit out let's go

23:55Jason Stewart:Chris knows Chris is like if you show me two Show me two stickers I'll tell you which one to print That's as far as I go

24:01Madi Diaz:Exactly that's my skill level I think a lot of people I hear faking it Very Rick Rubin-esque of you Chris I mean Rick gave away the sauce He fucked up he shouldn't have done so many podcast interviews Because before he was just a mythic character Who nobody understood And now he's saying anybody could do it And unfortunately that's going to give people the belief That they can do it

24:21Jason Stewart:And if anyone can do it why am I paying this long hair fucking three million dollars i mean once again you know you're just like you're bringing it back to the rawness wait hold on one second maddie's frozen by the way oh yeah your camera's frozen how is that real why is my internet connection so unstable well it's because you live in the you

24:37Madi Diaz:live in the sticks so it's we gotta i don't know i don't know how many bartenders it takes to kind of churn the wheel to keep the wi-fi going in east nashville oh man you have no you have no idea it is it's really i mean we got the natos down here too the tornadoes and we've got like we've got weather moving up.

24:54Jason Stewart:Is that your WNBA team? What is that? The Nados, you said?

25:00WNBA team. Because it couldn't just be an NBA name.

25:05Jason Stewart:That's right. Well, if it was NBA, then it wouldn't be as funny, you know? But we could also be talking about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

25:14Madi Diaz:Oh my God. Have you suffered the hands of one of the famous Tennessee... Because there was the one a couple years ago that was really bad. There was a really bad one. I kind of was about four blocks away from that one. I had a bunch of friends that kind of lost everything, like walked out of their houses with their wallets kind of thing. Shit. But I lucked out. I've lucked out both times we've had tornadoes touchdown in Nashville in the last five years. I've been about four blocks away. And I even moved in that time. I was living in Five Points at the time. I know. I was like, and then I'm going to go out to Madison.

25:48It's going to be safe and amazing. and then a tornado hopped through my neighborhood, literally hopped.

25:54Jason Stewart:You ever seen a tornado hop? Didn't think so. Didn't think so. It's different.

25:58Madi Diaz:They do that down here. The bunny Nados is what we call those.

26:02Jason Stewart:So maybe you either have a sixth sense for knowing where to live and to stay out of the tornado's path or you have some sort of black magic going on where when the Nado comes, you start making a witch's brew and you shun it away with your mystical powers. I'm living on the edge. So you just sneezed right now. You just sneezed right now. That's the devil trying to get out of you. That's a sign. Well, I did also, like right before we hopped on, I was chopping onions, like half a dozen onions, just so I'm like - What the fuck are you doing? Half a dozen. What are you doing? You're making a perpetual stew for the neighborhood?

26:39Jason Stewart:Yeah, what are you doing? I just got home and Thanksgiving is tomorrow. own so i'm like in this really crazy in between of like trying to like fold on my laundry and then like prepare my life for and i guess onions was what i went for first thing in the morning so you

26:56Madi Diaz:just got home exo tour exo tour life like you were on the road yeah i just got home we got home around

27:02Jason Stewart:like midnight on sunday and straight into thanksgiving yeah i played i also played the rhyman on monday opening for my friend stephen wilson jr who's like one of the realists out there i think but he just finished his tour as well so we kind of tandem have hit the brakes and

27:19Madi Diaz:it was nice okay so you're playing you're playing monday so you can't eat a whole turkey oh no i you kind of got to keep i already played on monday oh you played on monday i did it i did it now i'm like full turkey crash i can just like face plant in the turkey actually you've played the rhyming before that wasn't your first time it wasn't my first time but it's really honestly like so special there. I don't think it's possible to make that room sound bad. I don't know how they did that. Well, it feels like you're in a church. The pew seating. Aren't you, Chris? Well, it really threw me off because I'd never been there before.

27:51Madi Diaz:And then I was like, wow, I don't like to stand, but this is a little uncomfortable. It's not great for the listener, let's say. You should bring a pillow, actually. a butt pillow yeah I need a butt pillow it's nice that it feels like it's geared towards the artist more than the listener and I think that's why it's so good are you guys in Nashville? no I live in New York I've just been a lot because I grew up in Atlanta and I went to the Ryman I went to see a show because I was like oh this place is special I should go check it out

28:25Jason Stewart:I just looked up Stephen Wilson Jr sorry for interrupting I just looked up Stephen Wilson Jr I didn't know who he was his instagram bio is death cab for country and he he also performed at the cma awards like a week ago with you know all the all the biggest names in country you like big x the plug yeah it was great i actually i played a show in la that night the night of the cmas and i got home or got home that's so sad i got back to my hotel room and you know have you ever been like traveling so much and you go you're in so many hotels i like will wake up in the middle of the night sometimes and like walk into a wall thinking the bathroom is like in a different place like it's i'm just you're just like whatever anyway i got back from the show at like 1 a.m or midnight or something and i turned on abc and there was steven singing on the cma is like in a spotlight and it was just such a i mean he's been on the rise for the last like four or five years he was he was like he's one of those friends that's been in bands for a really long time always been like in the writing scene and he's just really like he's found it and it's been the last the last time the last time i saw him play in nashville before last night or before monday night was in a room with like i don't know like a few hundred people and it was one of those moments where i was like yeah my friend's about to be famous like this is the last it's bubbling the last time we're gonna see him in a room like this there's just it's over okay so you you're flipping on the TV.

29:57Jason Stewart:Oh, there's my bud. He's on Kimmel. He's on CMAs. And you're walking into the wall at the hotel. What a stark difference. Maddie, we believe in you.

30:08Madi Diaz:It's going to happen for you. Let's keep plugging away.

30:12Jason Stewart:That's what this podcast is for. But more importantly than your life and career, what are these onions for? I'm a big food guy. I love pickled onions. And also this episode comes out on Thanksgiving Day tomorrow. No, it comes out Friday. No, Friday. Post-Thanksgiving. Friday, Friday. So it'll be leftover season when this episode drops. So I'd like to be a little detailed with your food preparation. Well, thank you. I would love that. I'm a big pickled onion fan. And so usually one of the first things I do when I get home when I hit the grocery store is I go buy a bunch of red onions and I chop them up just to torture myself.

30:49Madi Diaz:Are you going to the turnip truck? or are you hitting Kroger? Man, I'm hitting Aldi, man. That shit is expensive. Are you kidding me? Turtle truck and Kroger? Please. Aldi. You're doing well enough to not go to Aldi. Don't go to Aldi. You're better than that. Literally, listen. If I go to Aldi, if I go to Aldi, I can spend like 60, 80 bucks and get my groceries for the week, my friend. And it doesn't matter. Produce in Nashville is no bueno.

31:15Jason Stewart:So you're just meal prepping onions, though. What about real food, Maddie? You mean the rest? It's going to start price going up. Where do the onions go with? You're like, I just got off of tour. Eating onions. You know, first things first, before I even do laundry, whatever. An onion cleanse. I'm going to pickle a dozen onions. No, I do most of my groceries at Aldi and then I go across the street to Garden Fresh in Madison on Gallatin. And Madison does great meats and pork shoulders and steaks. And this is like, we're in stew season, am I right? I mean, we're like in pot roasts. potato, carrot.

31:52Jason Stewart:My wife made a coccovain last night and boy did it hit the spot. You guys are fucking disgusting.

31:57Madi Diaz:Stew is disgusting, but go ahead. Big meats? Oh, let's go. Just put a big meat in a pot. No, stew feels like you're homeless. It doesn't feel like delicious food.

32:09Jason Stewart:There's nothing homeless about coccovain, Chris, a French delicacy.

32:13Madi Diaz:No, of course. No, I understand that, but I think that...

32:15Jason Stewart:Well, Chris doesn't eat meat, Maddie, so he's a little disqualified for this convo so his version of stew is going to be some like homeless guy lentil situation so maybe

32:26Madi Diaz:that's why he thinks i love i love i love lentils but my version of stew is an acai bowl i think is probably are you serious you're from georgia and you're going acai bowl hey look some of us some of us rebelled against our culture and are now just finding our way back he's a city boy now

32:43Jason Stewart:he's a city boy now.

32:45Madi Diaz:I've shaken off those chains of the South and now I like dumb stuff that's more expensive. I get that. I mean, my mom was like a bulk buyer though. She was like, she was kind of like one of the original health food store ladies but she would find, she would find like the semis, the trucks that were like on their way to the health food store. This is like, you know what I was like, this is insane. This is when I was like.

33:07Jason Stewart:Like mafia style? She robbed them? I've seen heat. She's like, fur coats, giant tubs of peanut butter. Let's do this. Where's the brown rice, motherfucker? Cigarettes, natural ketchup. Hands in the air. Boca burgers. Do you guys remember Boca burgers? It was like the fur. We talk about - This podcast has mentioned Boca burgers more than any other podcast in the history of Apple podcasting. Maybe I was picking up on it because I literally haven't said Boca burger in, I don't know, like well over a decade.

33:34Madi Diaz:I still think it's, if I'm going to a barbecue situation, I would prefer a Boca burger over any other option. I mean homemade obviously at a restaurant is probably the best but Boca for store bought is still my top. Really? Even like quinoa or like what do they call it? There's Beyond, there's Impossible. Beyond. That's what I'm talking about. No, Beyond's disgusting. It's terrible for your digestion. It's gross looking. I don't need my fake meat to bleed. That's gross. It's really crazy when they are trying to make their fake burgers bleed. Hold on. Hold on. Don't skip over your mom robbing health food store deliveries.

34:13Jason Stewart:Your mom's intercepting the shipment. No, she wouldn't. Nutritional yeast, motherfucker. She would find the companies that were getting the semis to go to the health food store, and she would basically make a bulk order and find other families. We were homeschooled, too. So we were doing all the things. You're a real freak.

34:37Madi Diaz:I like this. You earned it. I was raised crunchy for sure. In the woods, like Amish country. Where? Pennsylvania. Oh, Pennsylvania.

34:47Jason Stewart:Okay, okay, okay. The homeschool to Berklee School of Music pipeline is a real thing, isn't it? I think it might be. I mean, I've only ran into...

34:54Madi Diaz:I'll tell you what, Adrian Linker definitely feels homeschooled. And in some ways, so does John Mayer. I kind of see this weird... I see a weird through line. There's a type. Yeah, there's a type.

35:07Jason Stewart:Can you hear color, Maddie? I cannot hear color, okay? I kind of wish I could, though. It's pretty sick.

35:14Madi Diaz:All right, so when you go to Berkeley, is it just like Nerdfest 101? Or is it like, oh, everybody in here is just a cool shredder? It's incredibly nerd. I mean, there are guitar shapes that you will never see again, like just Hot Wheels. And they all look like Nike Air 1s versions of guitars. so you're saying that you're saying that people are pulling up with instruments that you just stuff you ain't seen before never seen before and shredding and like soundproof one of my one of the weirdest places and one of my favorite places in berkeley are like the the like halls of practice rooms that like exist on every floor like at the end of every floor there's like like a weird tunnel with teeny tiny soundproof rooms with like windows you can see like through the doors and like see what people are doing in there and you could just like shut yourself in there and practice for

36:03Jason Stewart:ever and i remember like can you hot box in there though bro there there was all honestly all sorts of crazy shit going on i know you guys are nerd i know you guys are nerds but i bet you

36:15Madi Diaz:were still trying to have sex with each other so i can see what i mean like those band camp kids are dirty you know that they are but yeah it was like it was it was like 24 hour practice rooms It was like just shredding and like ear training and like just learning music theory. And I don't know. It was for two years. It was like my favorite place on the planet. And then I dropped out.

36:42Jason Stewart:Did you go there? You went there for two years. Yeah, I was there for almost two and a half years. And then nobody finishes.

36:48Madi Diaz:I've never heard of anybody finishing because if you really got it, you're like, this is I don't need this. I was also, I was working full-time bartending at this place called The Poor House, which was like a couple blocks away.

36:58Jason Stewart:Is it P-O-U-R, I'm assuming? P-O-U-R, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like kind of dinery, cheap nacho, like beer, 22-ounce beers.

37:08Madi Diaz:That sounds, I would love to serve a 22-ounce beer to a drunk guy in Boston. That sounds. Dude, they open at 7 a.m., or they used to. They open at 7 a.m. too, and like people like lined up. It was crazy.

37:18Jason Stewart:Dude, breakfast nachos, dude. Good breakfast Patron. It was ridiculous. Can I see your breakfast Patron menu? I have a severe alcoholism. What is the...

37:30Madi Diaz:All right, so you dropped out two and a half years. Are you the most successful... Who is the most successful person from your class? Who is the most successful person from your class? Let's name names.

37:40Jason Stewart:She said Aldi, Chris. It's got to go up from there. Literally.

37:43Madi Diaz:I don't mean like guys in... I don't mean session nerds. I mean like people whose names we're going to know. oh well i mean i i really don't know i guess exactly it's you it's you you're number one i was trying to gas you up and you're trying to make a heart on yourself you didn't go to school

37:58Jason Stewart:with chance the rapper or something cool like that huh i know i feel like well i feel like there were a couple people that just like dropped out way earlier than i did because they were just like already on tour and like kind of killing it with people or you know already kind of having like huge song moments and i don't know like my i'm i'm better at harp than my harp teacher why am i paying this guy 60 grand a year kind of thing yeah kind of or like i don't know just crazy sound engineers or crazy a band leader people yeah there's there's just like right but at the same time like i when i moved down to nashville i moved down with like a lot of people that had either also dropped out or people that were just like starting to make records and like Like Charlie Worsham, for instance, is like, I don't know if you guys know him, but he was in my class.

38:44And he got a CMA last year for best, I don't know, country person. Best player of stuff. I think best instrumentalist, I want to say.

38:56Madi Diaz:Dopest country person. Yeah, dopest country person. Coolest country guy with guitar. And I think he graduated, which is kind of beginning. Show off. He actually finished. Yeah, show off. What's up with you and the CMAs? Have you been? Do you like that kind of stuff? No, I think. Are you friends? I think I'm talking about it a lot because it just happened last week. And like most of my friends are, you know, like Brothers Osborne or like P.C. Musgraves or like a lot of my friends write with like Kelsey Ballerini. And she's like, you know, she did a performance last week. Kelsey's been in the news a lot lately for her on again, off again relationship.

39:29Madi Diaz:I've been following this closely. Oh, my God. It's like you're in on the Nashville gossip. they rekindled they rekindled but it's they've unfortunately already separated again so i think i think third time's a charm if they can you know if they can find each other again obviously in this thing we call life but you never know you never know you never know it's a roller coaster what i what i always say about country music which is so fascinating to me is that it's the only popular genre where looks don't matter and that's why i watch the cmas fourth of july savings are happening now at the home depot with select appliances starting at $398.

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41:32Madi Diaz:He's taking home six trophies. Like what do you mean his name is Jelly Roll?

41:34Jason Stewart:They're like, no, sorry. They're like, trophies, medals.

41:38Madi Diaz:Number one favorite. I appreciate it because it's like I just feel like it really is about the music. All joking aside, I feel like they really care about the craft more than anyone else. And it's like we don't give a shit if you look like you sell Ford. No, it's real. Like it's all good. That guy could have been working at Piggly Wiggly six months ago. and like now he's like standing in a spotlight on say it's it's maybe because country is such a

42:01Jason Stewart:radio dominant for sure genre you know what i mean they say you gotta you gotta face for radio i feel like country radio dominates yeah compared to other genres what about that guy what about the guy that fights with zach bryan all the time what's his name oh my god uh gavin is it is it not

42:18Madi Diaz:john no his name is gavin there's like a video of him him like jumping a fence at a festival like going to fight and I was like this is so cool like if you can't do this in any other genre where you like you have a goatee you could lose 30 and you're jumping a fence to try to fight a guy who's a lot more popular than you it's just so sick it's so cool are you talking about Gavin Adcock Gavin Adcock country music's biggest troll yeah oh man he's awesome I mean his music is not awesome but he the whole thing is so fucking funny it's so funny the country

42:52Jason Stewart:singer is doing something rarely done in Nashville picking fights with fellow artists you know this is a thing that we were talking about on the podcast earlier this week about how nowadays if you want to find success in your field you kind of have to pick fights and start beefs and rivalries with distracts maybe maybe that maybe some distracts but like that's how you know like the taylor swift and the charlie xcx and the blah blah blah and like you know you can you can maddie who do you have even whether or not their fight

43:21Madi Diaz:is real who do you have beef with let's start now i know like who am i gonna fight this is so exciting i know you have i know you can't talk about your beefs we'll we'll text about it later

43:30Jason Stewart:i'm sure you have some and i love beef look musgraves has her you know she's a sweet girl no fucking way i've never i've never known such a girl's girl like casey i'm like she can't people

43:42Madi Diaz:oh people love paramour or whatever but you know i mean okay you will you mention casey musgraves being a girl's girl who's not a girl's girl girl's girl i mean that's the thing are you a girl maddie are you a girl's girl if you were on the bachelorette or something i think she is would they call you that i would say in my 20s i didn't know how to be a girl's girl like i feel like you know the system wasn't like really set up for me to be a girl's girl i was like just kind of

44:09Jason Stewart:like a bro bro i guess it's a little homeschooling yeah it's a little i don't know maybe but in my 30s I know a girl, mommy no that's it not even mommy okay so you're saying

44:29Madi Diaz:if Casey saw your man at the bar cozying up next to another chick she would text you she'd send me a pic, she'd send me a video she'd probably walk up to him she'd probably FaceTime me damn She'd come home with a scalp. Yeah, Casey, a real one. She would come home with a scalp. I saw your little ass. I saw your little ass. I took care of business for you. That is a girl's girl. That is a girl's girl. I don't know if, yeah, I don't know if, I feel like country music loves to, I feel like that's all rewarded in the genre. You know what I mean? It's a little more dramatic than others, I would say.

45:05I mean, it's a small town, you know?

45:08Madi Diaz:Oh, here we go. It's a small town. Okay, Yellowstone. Yeah, why do you live there, land man? Do you like it? Still waters run deep. There's just something in the water down here. But do you live there because it's just ground zero for business or do you actually like it? I love it. There's something about, maybe it's the humidity that makes everything a little bit heavier. It's about everything.

45:35Jason Stewart:We've got tornadoes, Aldi, humidity.

45:37Madi Diaz:Your hair does look good, so the humidity is working in your favor.

45:41Jason Stewart:yeah i'm here for the hair i'm here for the okay well what do you i want to we were talking about cmas and stuff like that we have somebody who lives in nashville boots on the ground pun intended how do you feel about we've talked about this for a long time about the cowboy aesthetic being adopted by mainstream culture and we keep talking about you know how is it still a thing how is it still cowboy carter and how is every bachelorette party pink cowboy hats and how is every how is cowboy aesthetic become i'm gonna go out and have fun even if it's at a rave or you know something that has nothing to do with country music i mean what's going on i do think being a cowboy is like one of the i grew up riding horses i grew up around you know nothing i mean i grew up in farm country so okay she's letting you jason she's letting you

46:29Madi Diaz:know you know she's a real one she ain't new to this she's true to this yeah i mean if you want to come on down and i'll we'll take you riding we'll see how you do you know i'm scared i'm not

46:37Jason Stewart:I'm not questioning your cowboy status. This is not a G check. It's not a C check. This isn't like a Reddit burn live. I'm just saying, you know. This isn't going to ask me anything live. No, no, no. I have no... This is a thing that I am... Now that I have a bona fide cowgirl on our podcast today, I just wanted to see if you had any observations on that matter. I mean I think uh I moved down to Nashville I know I'm making this about me it's the only way that I can probably like uh get into why that's kind of the whole point of this get into the whole point of this so please go ahead it is appealing I think like I don't know things move slower down here it gives you a little bit more time to um to like be in your body and like come into yourself and like i don't know i like i lived in la for six years and i just i couldn't find myself there there are just like so many different versions of things out there and in nashville they're really kind of like i can only really be myself um so i don't know i mean i wonder i wonder if cosplay cowboy is just like fun to try on because people are wondering how real maybe that is for themselves um but it also looks pretty real real looks good on most people so you're telling me that's why i look like a tough guy don draper that's a nice little quote right there did you

48:00Madi Diaz:well when you were in la what was this good did you start dressing funny did you start doing weird shit and you had to check yourself i was just in a lot of bands and i was like writing in a lot of different like for a lot of different projects and trying on a little like a lot of different things like trying on pop trying on like punk band trying on like you know laptop electronic whatever and trying on like you know seance like leather rock you know like there are like there were a lot of different things seance leather are you getting your little cocteau twin on twin yeah i kind of was i was in i started a band called riot horse with like a college but actually another um berkeley uh person uh we started a band and we're in a band for a while and uh yeah i don't know like just trying on a lot of different versions and it wasn't until like i got back to nashville and was just like by myself that like you know kind of was able to write from a from one place i guess no i mean i mean that makes sense right riot horse that's like the horse that has all the tactical gear yeah it's like the horses yeah exactly it's like the police horses

49:07Jason Stewart:they got fucking brass knuckles on their hooves and shit it's fucking awesome do you drive it do you drive a truck be honest i do i have a ford maverick what's what's a ford maverick that's most lesbian truck you can own that sounds like an aldi it is it's like the subaro it's the subaro of of the truck family it is it's the lesbore it may or may not be electric or is it hybrid it is a hybrid i was not able to get a hybrid version i brought i bought the last one in

49:35Madi Diaz:tennessee in 2023 you got the last maverick in tennessee young lady you gotta work that

49:42Jason Stewart:into a lyric that feels poetic it's more it's more of a city it's more of a city truck than a hauler but hey that's fine you're not really moving bales of hay every day right are you using

49:50Madi Diaz:the bed you throw in the fucking telecaster in the back are you putting that baby in the back seat i mean i just unloaded just so much stuff from the try i mean just back killing cases of onions onions and sweatshirts that no one bought and records that are heavy

50:07Jason Stewart:all right okay so we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna be burning merch to keep warm through the winter another boiled onion sir another boiled onion my version of a lemonade stand is just like

50:24Madi Diaz:oh are you hungry i have a boiled hoodie for you at least it's warm feeling peckish i'm glad i'd drive a truck though that's cool i i think it's it feels appropriate for you do you drive in in your new york city-ness or are you just kind of like no but i think i have to start i think it's I think it's my final form is because I think it's really well I have a parking spot so it's like that's like kind of half the battle so if you have that that's huge you sort of just what a perk where are you gonna put the peloton though yeah great point great point what else can you do with a parking spot though I feel like there are lots of like you could probably rent that out like New York City space wise yeah I mean if you need to if you need a place to stay next time you're in town I can put it that's what I'm saying that's literally what I'm saying I'm like can I It's on Airbnb right now.

51:08Can I rent that spot, actually?

51:09Madi Diaz:People do rent them. I mean, they're expensive, so it's like a whole thing. But I just like last night, Jason, we went to go see Oedipus at Studio 54, and I ran to Chris Croner, and he's like, I drove here. It's cool. Once you start doing it, you drive everywhere.

51:28Jason Stewart:And also, you and Chris, both guys named Chris who are sober, so that's great because New York City, I feel like I'm going to go out on the town. it's not going to be it's going to be a DUI it's going to be giving DUI as they say so it's good

51:39Madi Diaz:if you leave Corner Store after six martinis they're going to they're going to light you up on Bowery

51:45Jason Stewart:although New York feels like a place where you never see somebody getting pulled over for a DUI right

51:49Madi Diaz:you really don't that's very Tennessee actually I'm sure Maddie how many how many you got

51:54Jason Stewart:you've been lit up before Maddie

51:55Madi Diaz:how many DUIs you got at least one I'm just trying to take guys with no DUIs that's like that's my new that's my new requirements that rhymes no DUIs DUIs are hot though I'm trying to write a country song I'm really into time utilization so if I can get at least a verse out of this situation we're good to go I'll even cut you guys in this is great you can give me our parking space for song lyrics I don't want points if I get a shout out I'm happy with that I need full name though no initials

52:27Jason Stewart:can't date guys who's got DUIs but maybe like unless but if they have enough money to afford the lawyer fees i'm back you know like that kind of energy right as long as he takes care of it you know what i mean like as long as like he's like willing to talk about taking care of it all right so are we in the are we in the market for a new man now can we help you at all responsibility is so hot responsibility is so attractive oh my god I'm like on again off again market I think I don't know what I'm gonna do I really love living alone and I love waking up alone and I love going to bed alone so there is that sounds like you should just be promiscuous yes get to fucking get to leaving you know that's really interesting I've been thinking about that I'm a really big I'm a really big fan of did you know that Frida Kahlo and Diego Rivera they had houses next to each other and they built a bridge between their houses so that they could visit each other but they basically just kind of vibed alone

53:36Madi Diaz:it's so cool what about that? I know people that have had apartments next to each other and one is the one they sleep in and one is the office they share both though? that's not gonna work no no I think it's like there's one person that goes to an office and there's one person that needs one and there's one area for just a commute of like walking next door that's amazing you could do that and you could do that in tennessee there's all kinds of space it's cheap there's like a house for rent across the street from my house and i'm like this is you know that's that would be it that's great but you can't you can't also like sleep with your neighbor so like it would have to be like a very serious situation for like that to be a well are you i feel like you're someone who wants to date age appropriate and unfortunately they're going to be a musician and i don't think there's much you can do about that i won't do that okay okay you're gonna you're gonna date an it guy who the fuck are you gonna come on i'm talking like was there like a landscaper or like a like doctor or like a like the farmer variants between those two you want somebody that works guy who he's got a good job at the yeti yeti yeah great love that high up at yeti who's your man oh he actually he runs lucasie actually he's like in the he's the ceo it's great it's super cool

54:52Jason Stewart:yeah but if he's running lucasie he's fucked every oh that's true town you know what i mean

54:57Madi Diaz:new cole kitman's even gotten a piece you know cole kitman's even got a piece that's the thing i believed i believed in love what a catch but honey he's ran through i believed in love until i until nicole kitman and keith like when that happened like i felt like it was like an audible breaking of hearts i think like across the country it was just uh right around i believed in love

55:17Jason Stewart:until they started dating. I was like, he's gay. What are you talking about?

55:22Madi Diaz:I don't think he's gay. I think he's Australian. And I think it's crazy that he's Australian. Every time I look at him, I forget that he's Australian. And it's... Right, and then he starts talking and you're like, oh my God. But do you think you're going to see Keith down at the Bluebird now trying to pick up youngins? Or like, what do we... Is he out in the town? Is he going to fucking open mic nights now?

55:42Jason Stewart:What's the gay bar in Nashville? That's where he'll be at.

55:47Madi Diaz:found found it's spotted what is the gay bar in nashville i've never been to a gay bar in nashville chris is trying to get you off the scent there's i mean i think play is like the most renowned there's also lipstick lounge oh so good but that's lesbian leaning i assume musgraves can't show up at the lipstick lounge right yeah you musgraves can't show up a lipstick lounge doom walls let's like lipstick lounge is like a 1 a.m like a last minute play for me personally one last shot one last shot

56:15Jason Stewart:one last shot at love one last shot I guess I'll hit the lounge couldn't get no dick tonight ran out of coke I'll hit the lounge maybe I'll find something warm one last shot at love is good are you writing that down for a bridge right now she's writing that down I'm thinking A minor to C I'll put you in touch she's Jason's publisher I'm going to shout you out like DJ Khaled. I'm going to be like, Jason Stewart, Chris Black, we the best music. One last shot. That's fine.

56:50Madi Diaz:That's fine for us. When you show up at a place like that, though, because in Nashville, you know, I'm sure you're an impressive karaoke singer if you're in any other city. But in Nashville, everyone can sing. So what do you even do? Like, does your Sheryl Crow work there? Or do you have to go crazy? Man, I actually, not to bring it back to the dating thing, but I used to date this guy and we would sing the Kid Rock, Sheryl Crow duet. Great song.

57:12Jason Stewart:Kid Rock's only good song.

57:16Madi Diaz:I can't understand why we're living life this way. I found your picture today. I swear I'll change my way. Great song. Great song. But there was like some scary dive bar on the other side of town, like in South Nashville. I'm trying to remember what it was called. But it was like it was kind of near the zoo, the Nashville Zoo. And like there were only ever like five or six people and just chain smoking inside like Coors Light at like 2 p.m. It was when I first moved back from L.A. and really just needed like six months to kind of be the worst and find my feet. Got it.

57:59Jason Stewart:What a nice way to put it. Yeah. My ho phase. My ho phase. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That. Like, while she's really getting around, no, no, no. She's just trying to find her feet. I'm just being the worst. I'm trying to find my feet. I'm just finding my feet.

58:10Madi Diaz:So you and your own Bob Ritchie would sing the kid Cheryl cover together. Oh, yeah.

58:17Jason Stewart:The song is called Picture from 2001. Picture today. You know, like in the movies where it's like you're drinking from the wine glasses, but you wrap your arms around each other's arms. We would do that with the microphones and chain smoke and, you know, It was a whole moment. Just looking into each other's eyes. You have to go all the way sometimes.

58:39Madi Diaz:No, I agree. You have to sell that one. You have to go all the way down. That is such a great song. I kind of forget about it because I feel like it doesn't really come up that much now that Bob's sort of persona non grata. But he gave us that one at least. He gave us that one at least. Yeah, poor Cheryl. He gave us that and a horrible bar on Broadway that I only went to one time. What's it called? I can't remember but it's like four stories and just like oh my god it's like just yelling

59:06Jason Stewart:yeah I know there's like a kid rock bar who else has what other celebrity country people does Guy Fieri have one Florida Georgia Line I think has one and I will say like one woman bar owning country lady on Broadway Miranda Lambert goat like great bar great hang and just, you know. I actually, I listened to Miranda,

59:30Madi Diaz:I listened to Miranda Lambert on Joe Rogan kind of by accident. Did you know? By accident. Yeah, it was just, well, she, you know, she married like a cop. Yeah. Like she just married like a New York cop. I want to say he's a firefighter, but yeah, yep, uniform guy.

59:47Jason Stewart:I just looked up Miranda's bar. It's called Miranda Lambert's Casa Rosa. Casa Rosa. A Texas Mexican Tina. Oh, you can eat too? It's kind of her version of Los Angeles's pink taco if you're familiar with that one maddie be fun yes very rhinestones wow that sounds pretty

1:00:02Madi Diaz:good i would like to go to morgan wallen's bar that's the he threw the chair off of his own bar

1:00:07Jason Stewart:or was it a different bar i think i don't know because you know as much as you gotta throw a

1:00:13Madi Diaz:chair off the as much as i should like i should in theory based on my musical taste i should really like morgan wallen and for some reason i don't and it's sort of confusing to me i love i I will say one thing about Nashville, too. I feel like so many of the Nashville pop star, country stars are leaning into – everyone's building their lore. You know what I mean? It's like in 30 years, there are going to be these stories about Morgan Wallen throwing the chair off of the roof of his bar. That is totally insane. That's an insane move. It is an insane move.

1:00:45Jason Stewart:But I think it's much less romanticized than the Led Zeppelin trashing their hotel rooms back in the day and driving a car into the pool, throwing a TV out the window. That's cool and legendary and sick and sexy. But Morgan Wallen screaming the N-word and throwing a fucking stool off the roof. That's insane. It just has a different feel to it.

1:01:05Madi Diaz:That's because look at Morgan Wallen's haircut. You know what I mean? It's not. It doesn't feel cool. It's just he's not cool.

1:01:12Jason Stewart:But why do women, why can't women resist him?

1:01:16Madi Diaz:Why are their powers? Why have they not built out? Maddie, when's the last time you dated a guy with a little mullet, be honest? Because that's hard to miss in Nashville. Far too recently. It was months ago, honestly. You're like, what time is it? Literally, like, it's not even real. That's just, like, maybe also currently. You know what I mean? Unavoidable. He said he was going to the barbershop yesterday. I haven't seen him since.

1:01:39Jason Stewart:How many guys in Nashville in your age range of fuckability don't have a mullet? I don't have to see the back. I don't have to see the back. I can choose not to see the back. This is a lyric as well. I don't need to see the back of his head, but he need to see the back of my head. The women's right to choose across the board. I choose not to see the back of your head ever. I choose the front. I am blind. I am blind to your racist haircut. Pro-choice all the way. I just like, that's just my thing, you know? Wow.

1:02:11Madi Diaz:That haircut is a disease. And I think Nashville and Austin are the two most infected places. That's where we need outbreak style.

1:02:18Jason Stewart:That's the Wuhan of the mullet.

1:02:20Madi Diaz:Yeah, that's the wet market of the mullet. I must be broken. I'm like, I can make it cute. I can make it cute.

1:02:28Jason Stewart:You look at the mullet and say, I could fix him? I'm broken.

1:02:31Madi Diaz:You're saying you can make it cute by like being on their arm? Or you're saying you're going to put some bedhead in it like Jason said? I don't understand what you mean.

1:02:40Jason Stewart:Okay, Maddie. Okay, let's go back to Morgan really quick. That's why I speak broadly. You know what I mean? Because just take what you will. Let's say you didn't know a single thing about Morgan Mullen, and he just came up to you and started talking, or you saw a photo of him. Would you say this guy is attractive or no? You know what's funny? I don't know what he looks like. I just know his name. I don't actually know what he looks like.

1:03:04Madi Diaz:He looks like a guy that works at Aldi.

1:03:07Jason Stewart:you know kind of like he doesn't really he's a country music singer plays stadiums maybe he

1:03:12Madi Diaz:doesn't he doesn't look like much you know what i'm saying it's not what's the guy midland you know the model guys the one that's married to to tie from outdoor voices like those guys are too hot like it feels also don't know i don't know i feel like i know like i'm i was like the most useless person to ever like live in hollywood i i knew who like brad pitt was and angelina jolie and that was about it for me. You wouldn't recognize someone from Selling Sunset when you're at... Selling who?

1:03:43Jason Stewart:So you swim more comfortably in the waters of, let's say, the Lilith Fair crouch. I actually know the Selling Sunset cast very well. That's one of my binge watches when I get home from tour. I'm like, what, 30 million? I knew we had a lot in common. Chris, you can smell it on you. What, 30 million dollar house? I can smell the Oppenheimer on you. you're the you're the o group you're the o group put your o's up did you what was that uh what is that um that movie arrival do you remember arrival like where they talk in the ink swishes yes doesn't the o group emblem look very much like an alien like ink swoosh like every time they see i ever see the o group i'm like why are we doing the arrival emblem i don't understand what's happening yeah yeah it's like a rustically drawn o ring and actually there's a there's a apartment complex on my street that's currently up for sale from the o group and that sign i walk by that sign every day and i now that i'm looking at the arrival sanskrit language oh it's right it's a spitting image are wait are you in la that's where you are i'm in la that's where i am baby

1:04:50Madi Diaz:you jealous you don't get p don't get ptsd from just talking to him now i kind of yeah i just did you see did you see me glaze over just for like which bad which bad which bad east side neighborhood did you live in though because i feel like oh my god hilarious how deep in mount washington were you that's funny i actually i was like i i think i lived i had an apartment in 2012 and so like my my rent was still like a thousand bucks a month for like a studio apartment a block from sunset like right in sunset junction um and then i did move to sunland valley like to honga canyon for like a year i never heard none of those words before it's like mantros you know mantros it's like it's like if you go i'm out if you if you go up the two towards the mountains

1:05:37Jason Stewart:that's where it's not that far but i mean i know a lot of people buy um buy houses up there because you can get a lot of land and you can build like a sick ass house for a small amount of money yeah you can still be able to drive you could drive into la you know get into silver lake in 10 15 minutes yeah it's like i mean it's also like full breaking bad out there a little bit still like they're just like crosses on hills and like you can walk around naked and like it's a whole it's a little we you know we don't we don't call 9-1-1 type shit energy over there you know we take care of ourselves yeah yeah dude there was i mean you know some people like to live like that in los angeles i mean there really was there was a guy at the very end of like the street turned into i don't know just sand at some point but like a mile and a half down this like sand road this guy literally lived on like this hill just surrounded by cacti like that he had like built out like just like hundreds of feet of cacti like that guy is like he is up there for the apocalypse a fortress

1:06:37Madi Diaz:that's cool that's cool i mean that's the whole that's a california dream yeah that's a california

1:06:42Jason Stewart:yeah because we have a lot of uh we like to segregate our houses in los angeles with these large hedges for privacy so nobody can see in but the cacti it's a nice natural native plant and it's it's a real bad guy deterrent i don't want to go through a cacti bush yeah it's not even affordable it's still high price there was also like a boat at the bottom of this like ravine on his property which i thought was so interesting i'm just like so if we go like full like apocalypse like the waters are rising does he also have like an escape boat that shit gets biblical i've got my boat ready to go. That is so sick.

1:07:17This dude has everything.

1:07:19Madi Diaz:That's really smart, actually. I always forget about the water part of the apocalypse, so I'm glad you reminded me.

1:07:24Jason Stewart:Don't sleep on the water part of the apocalypse, Chris.

1:07:26Madi Diaz:I would be remiss if we didn't talk about you touring with Harold Stylish, one of our favorite reoccurring characters on this show that has never been on it. Really? I mean, I'm a Harold head. I love music. One of our favorite

1:07:40Jason Stewart:marathon runners of all time, probably.

1:07:42Madi Diaz:Yeah, he's my favorite runner for sure. So you were in the band, but you also opened. You were doing double duty or is that separate occasions? I only did double duty for one show. How did you feel after doing double? Because that feels like a real haul. Because this motherfucker's up there for three hours dancing around in his little sequins. So that's going to wear you out. It was. I luckily didn't have to do any of the sequins or like the real, you know, like light on the toes thing. I got to just kind of like when I was in his band I was just wearing like a denim jumpsuit that like made me look like I was going to get shot into space and got to just kind of like you know I played he's the only man that I will ever play Maracas for like ever yeah same I'd play Maracas for his little ass too are we talking about the same thing?

1:08:33Madi Diaz:I was just going to say I was like which really does just sound like a euphemism for forever but you know now when you do something like that It's always fascinating to me because obviously you're a shredder, you're a professional. But how long do you have to learn all of these songs? Did you have enough time or was it like a weird rush for whatever reason? It was not so much of a rush. I mean, he hit me up like probably mid-February, something like that before. And we got to rehearsals like at some point in April. So I had plenty of time to like metabolize. And like the way they build those shows is just it's so careful and meticulous and really just like.

1:09:10I mean, I love it so much. I'm a bit of a perfectionist. So I'm just like, I mean, I will, I will, I mean, I'll sit in the Berklee practice shredding rooms, the sound for forever. So it was, it was a really wonderful experience that I felt like, I mean, there's still no way to really prepare you for like, just screams out of volume that like you can't like, they're just like, and they're hating you from every side of your body. So it's just like, it's wild.

1:09:35Madi Diaz:Now, did you retain some audience when you opened or was it like, who is this bitch? Like, what's the vibe? No, I mean, even still like on this last tour, like, you know, two years, three, almost three years later, like people are still showing up saying, you know, I saw you for the first time in Palm Springs, like opening for Harry or I saw you in London opening for Harry. That's great. That's cool. that actually works like because i feel like it's it could go either way when someone's that popular their fans are either like i don't care about anything else or they're willing to take in you know if they get the stamp of approval no i honestly like i was a bit nervous opening for him generally because i feel like any female like within 100 feet of harry styles might get like

1:10:16Jason Stewart:something thrown at them so i got a red dot on your head and just being near him i was a bit like anxious but like the girls are like all of his fans are just so insanely sweet i mean like and just genuine and like encouraging and just like i think they're aware of like the scale that like the whole thing is the whole thing sits on and so it was just like it was cool it was like i don't know just people yelling me at me like you've got this and then like throwing a bracelet at my face um but like a cute bracelet that like is like you know one of my one of my song titles or like sometimes like I would show up and like people would know like all of the lyrics and I'm like, how is that even, did you guys like prep for this?

1:10:55I've heard about shit like that.

1:10:56Madi Diaz:I've heard about shit like that before where it's like they're so into it and they're so excited that they like do the homework, which is pretty awesome. I mean, that's best case scenario. No, they show up like, they show up like for the show experience. Like they'll show up with like your face on a t-shirt. It's like crazy. It's really, it's beautiful.

1:11:12Jason Stewart:I think, I suspect that it's so they can use you to get to Harry. You know, like I'm going to endear her And then, you know, because like Chris and I, we interview a lot of people in the pod and I'll get a DM or a message just like, can you introduce me to Lord? Can I go to Hozier's Green Room? I live in Bangladesh. And, you know, we're just like, you know, we're just vessels for the Lord. Like we're just conduits.

1:11:41Madi Diaz:Would you do something like that again or did you get your fill of sort of that lifestyle? That's a really good question. I really did love it I think I would probably do it again And be much better prepared for it Yeah because it feels Like if you're really great At what you do and it's not About you but you're getting paid really well And the travel is really nice It seems like kind of the best version Of being a professional guitar player

1:12:07Jason Stewart:And someone is in charge of everything And you just you get your call sheet Oh it's like it's best case honestly Oh I didn't know you meant being in his band

1:12:15Madi Diaz:yeah i would drop up a hat like i mean i mean any band i mean like other like things like that i

1:12:21Jason Stewart:feel like it's like kid rocks band or something yeah let's say bob calls you straight for kid

1:12:26Madi Diaz:i checked you out i checked out your stuff and i really like it i mean i i would definitely i'm like and i and i think i said this to um harry styles at some point you know like that's not my normal like i don't i'm not really in bands much they're probably much more uh experienced people that you can like tap into uh especially being him you know i mean like he can have anybody but yeah i don't know like being in a band is like it's so nice to not have it be about you it's so nice like i love singing like just muscularly like it just feels really good in my body and like so it was really fun to just like be in somebody else's band and get to just cool i feel the same i feel the same way about singing but no one's really interested in hearing me do it it does i feel it on a cellular level singing is like my pilates i don't know just my

1:13:13Jason Stewart:body just really responds well to it.

1:13:15Madi Diaz:People don't respond the way that I want them to, so I've had to sort of scale it back a little bit as far as that goes, but it's nice to hear someone else enjoy it as much as you do. I'm so sorry for your loss. You should do it more often. You should sing all the time. You should try singing a lot. You should try it professionally. Are you going on tour again or are you done for the year? We'll see. I've had some business. What the fuck do you mean, we'll see?

1:13:41Jason Stewart:After that Ryman show, you know, phones have been ringing. Made quite the impression. I mean, I'm definitely going to be playing shows all next year. That's probably fact. But I'm definitely – when I get home from tour, I try not to remember my name. I try to kind of brainwash myself for a good four or five days. You just want to lock yourself in your house By yourself Put on some comfortable clothes Smoke a little J Walk into the walls Fall asleep whenever you want to Is this a YouTube thing? Are they going to see my Thank God Voice for radio, face for radio This is my heaven

1:14:25Madi Diaz:I wasn't going to comment on the Bon Iver wall Wall color But I didn't know you were such a fan

1:14:32Jason Stewart:Salmon is an interesting choice you guys it's rosy pashmina okay it's called rosy pashmina and i painted we're talking about the color of your wall not your drag name we're talking about this kind of

1:14:45Madi Diaz:a pinkish salmon kind of color you ain't fooling anybody with rosy pashmina when you pull up to sing fucking dolly parton at the lesbian bar it's a sherwin williams specialty oh okay

1:14:59Jason Stewart:the good folks over at sherwin williams they sure know how to make a nice bucket of latex don't they honestly you know what bums me out their logo freaks me out it's literally it's cover the earth and it's a bucket of paint covering the planet and i just i didn't know it until i walked out with all of my buckets of paint and i was like never again i just it really has a little illuminati energy to it doesn't it does freaked me out man like it's just oh cover the earth in your weird latex what if sherwin wants to cover the world with some dope vibes maybe that's all sherman wants to do that's it oh i love it's also kind of banksy-ish right like i freaking i'm up everywhere all over the world okay maddie thank you maddie for uh potting with us and taking the time out of your alone time your onion time to pod with us i think it was a success though huh so many success too like i really hope that i'm just i feel like i'm just continuing to build my brand with Rosie Pashmina and Onion Alone time.

1:15:57Like, this is... Hey, man.

1:15:59Madi Diaz:Thanks so much. These things are a reality.

1:16:01Jason Stewart:Fellas, she's single. Believe it or not.

1:16:04Madi Diaz:Jason, play... My favorite song is Feel Something. It might be a little too dramatic for the end, but if, you know, just if you're feeling it, you know what I mean? It might be a little dramatic, but...

1:16:14Jason Stewart:Okay. If Feel Something is too sad and slow for the outro of this episode, I will be forced to play a Kid Rock picture. featuring Cheryl Crow. Oh my God. Or maybe I'll play both. At the same time. I really hope. This is Thanksgiving. You can pan them because you know what that means. My cornucopia is bountiful. Wait, I could pan them? Is that what you said? You can pan them because you know what that means. He's like, sorry, did you say that I could do something tech audio? I am listening. Go on. You want me to play two songs at the same time at the same time? One left, one right? That sounds like a great sonic experience.

1:16:46Jason Stewart:Y 'all are too crazy.

1:16:47Madi Diaz:Y 'all are too crazy. All right. Maddie, happy Thanksgiving. Thanks for having me. We'll see you soon, hopefully. All right, I'll talk to y 'all. All right, later. Bye. Bye.

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