In short
Two hosts (Chris Black and Jason) trade travel-and-luxury anecdotes from Las Vegas (Nobu/Caesars, shopping, massages, gambling, and upcoming meals), then riff on broader culture: airline lounge culture, airport food smells, Thanksgiving family dynamics, gym “stealth/sleeper build” fashion, and subscription/credit-card perks.
Guest backgrounds
No guests appear in this transcript. It’s a solo conversation between Chris Black and Jason, with multiple mentions of other people (Alex, Carolyn, Margo/Bean, Shiv, Bryn Walner, Kai Gerber, etc.) but not as podcast guests.
Key claims
Roulette “has no skill”; Vegas is “lit as fuck” despite claims it’s a ghost town; airline food smells similar due to reheating/packaging; designer stores stay open on Thanksgiving while some American brands close; airport lounges are mass-access “scams” that can’t feel truly exclusive; family political drama at Thanksgiving is mostly outdated in 2025.
Notable examples
A roulette win turning into $600; a massage by a masseuse from Conyers, Georgia; seeing a biker gang resembling “Maddie Matheson” vibes; a story of someone lounge-hopping for 18 days and getting jailed; reading the New York Post on a plane at huge font; “stealth build”/quiet muscle gym fashion.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOLife in Las Vegas and Laguna Beach
0:06 to 0:28
Chris discusses his experiences in Las Vegas and Jason shares about Laguna Beach.
“We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that.”
Life in Las Vegas and Laguna Beach
0:50 to 1:54
Chris discusses his experiences in Las Vegas and Jason shares about Laguna Beach.
“I'm coming to you from the Nobu Hotel in fabulous Las Vegas.”
Hang Gliding Tales and Family Dynamics
1:54 to 3:21
A conversation about hang gliding and the complexities of family relationships.
“I'm in Laguna Beach at an unnamed hotel.”
Biker Encounters and Nostalgic Reflections
3:21 to 5:10
Chris shares an encounter with a biker gang and reflects on life decisions.
“I was literally going to joke was it Maddie and some of his OC homies?”
The Temptation of Gambling
5:10 to 6:40
Chris recounts a surprising experience with gambling in Las Vegas.
Thoughts on Spending Windfalls
6:40 to 8:00
Discussion on what to do with unexpected money and the temptation to spend frivolously.
Massage Experiences and Unexpected Connections
8:00 to 11:16
Chris shares a memorable massage experience and a connection to his hometown.
“Put left on layaway with my little six-piece.”
Shopping and Observations in Las Vegas
11:16 to 14:03
A discussion about shopping in Las Vegas during Thanksgiving and brand distinctions.
“When we have these small victories, when we have these small victories and we look good and God shines his light on us, we must speak on them.”
Shopping at Chrome Hearts
14:03 to 15:13
The hosts discuss their shopping experiences and expectations at Chrome Hearts.
“But yeah, I mean, I want to go to Chrome Hearts, and maybe that's what we do.”
Shopping at Chrome Hearts
16:18 to 17:22
The hosts discuss their shopping experiences and expectations at Chrome Hearts.
“Jason, we spend all day crawling the web.”
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Las Vegas Vibes and Experiences
17:34 to 23:58
Discussion on the atmosphere and personal experiences in Las Vegas.
“Everyone is saying, or I guess they were saying, it's a ghost town.”
Dining Adventures and Food Culture
23:59 to 28:03
The hosts share thoughts on dining experiences and food culture, particularly in relation to Thanksgiving.
“You're going to have a beautiful piece of fish and some arugula that's been flown in.”
The Quarter Zip Trend
28:03 to 28:49
Discussion on the popularity and cultural significance of quarter zips.
“But I was noticing the trend that I saw on Twitter about people switching the Nike techs to the quarter zips.”
Muscle Concealment in Fashion
28:50 to 30:18
Exploration of the trend where muscular women wear baggy clothes.
“I just don't I would just rather wear a regular sweater I don't know I've tried I don't mind it but I don't know you'd rather wear a DeLauro?”
Gym Interactions and Etiquette
30:19 to 31:45
Discussion about social interactions and etiquette at the gym.
“Hashtag sleeper build or hashtag shadow sculpted, hidden build, covered powerhouse, or quiet muscle type.”
Thanksgiving and Family Dynamics
31:46 to 33:56
Analysis of Thanksgiving traditions and family interactions in modern times.
“Well, I think it depends on how much food and cooking culture is in your family.”
Thanksgiving and Family Dynamics
35:15 to 35:55
Analysis of Thanksgiving traditions and family interactions in modern times.
“It's your old friend, Nels Klein from Wilco here.”
Thanksgiving Conversations and Modern Expectations
36:05 to 41:24
Discussion on modern family interaction expectations and societal changes.
“but it really does feel, like you said, is this still happening?”
Airport Lounge Culture and Stories
41:25 to 42:01
Examining airport lounge culture and a story about a man who lived in lounges.
“It's like, how do you keep elevating it when it can never be that nice because there's just so much foot traffic alone?”
Traveling and Airport Dining
42:01 to 43:35
The hosts discuss their thoughts on airport dining experiences and ticket classes.
“No, I mean, the real - I mean, you see guys - Not like they own fucking Jimmy John's.”
Smoothies and Service Standards
43:36 to 45:47
A conversation about smoothie quality and service standards in gyms and cafes.
“Do you think that because of contracts with providers, that the actual ingredients and all—I think all the ingredients and all the food at the airport are coming from the same place, correct?”
Modern Protocols and Customer Service
45:48 to 47:20
The hosts reflect on modern customer service challenges and protocols.
“And I was like, what do you mean you're out of bananas?”
Mountain Biking and Gear Culture
47:21 to 49:45
Discussion about mountain biking culture and the need for specialized gear.
“And I was thinking like once you buy a shirt for mountain biking, like once your t-shirt isn't good enough for mountain biking, that's when you know you've sort of crossed over into the nether region.”
Ohio Life and Dog Ownership
49:46 to 51:15
The hosts humorously discuss life in Ohio, emphasizing dog ownership.
“Of course, they've given us so much great stuff.”
Traveling and Weather
51:16 to 53:38
A light-hearted exchange about travel plans and unexpected weather conditions.
“I don't think we would discuss college football with other of those women.”
Thanksgiving Drug Trends
53:39 to 55:43
The hosts explore changing trends in substance use during Thanksgiving gatherings.
“You haven't been watching football games, bro?”
The Coke Walk Idea
55:44 to 56:01
A humorous suggestion for a new Thanksgiving tradition involving cocaine.
“I don't think that like, I don't know, my cousins didn't ever smoke with me.”
Thanksgiving Drug Discussions
56:01 to 1:00:28
Explore humorous takes on using drugs like cocaine at Thanksgiving gatherings.
“And I think marijuana is maybe a little more, you know, I'm going inwards kind of vibe.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week. Jason, does that sound familiar to you?
0:13Jason Stewart:We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcasts or watch on YouTube.
0:48How long gone? The rare Saturday, late afternoon recording time. Chris Black. I'm coming to you from the Nobu Hotel in fabulous Las Vegas.
1:00Jason Stewart:Cannot believe you're still in Las Vegas. I've only been here for two days. It feels so much longer to me, your friend who's not there at all. It feels longer to me too because I have to force myself to get sunlight. You know what I mean? To leave a property while the sun is still out. Yesterday, Alex and I were walking back from the spa and we just walked outside to stand there for a few minutes. just to make sure we got a vibe. Well, I mean, to get your circadian flowing, I mean, Margo and Bean, they do that sometimes. Just go out there and just get five. Just grab, let me grab five of some.
1:32Jason Stewart:Just let me, just let me, just give me five. Could you just give me five? So you walk to the spa at which hotel? In the same? Yeah, it's at, well, it's at all the, they have this crazy new spa and gym at Caesars, which is in the, Nobu is like a tower inside of Caesars, which I learned when I got here. Nobu is a tower inside of Caesar's. Got it. Okay. Yeah, exactly. That's a good sentence. It sounds really good out of context. Where are you? I'm in Laguna Beach at an unnamed hotel. Like when a hotel is like here, we're in Brentwood, Laguna Beach, Carmel. You're like, okay, like just location kink alone.
2:10Jason Stewart:You've got my interest. You know what I mean? I do know what you mean. How's the weather? Is the weather? Is it cooperating? Bro, I went to the beach today. let's go wow okay well see that's that's how this is what i'm saying this is what thanksgiving should be i was letting the fucking shore break splash my ankles dog i was i was exploring i was exploring the tide pools of crystal cove bro hey dog yeah i was i was like we went hiking this morning and i told carolyn like yo this is like low-key like hang gliding weather and she's like who the fuck do you think you are you know goddamn well you're imagine me in a squirrel suit i think to my death where was i somebody was talking about how they went hang gliding with their dad all the time and he would never let them do it with them it was like a pocket like like a guy like a somebody's deadbeat like alcoholic dad was super into hang gliding and he would go all the time and take the son and tell him he was going to let him do it but never did like after years and years of hang gliding so like like mental abuse like like come with me but then at the very last minute he's like psych bitch i think it's more gaslighting but when it's when it's coming from your father it feels a little a little crazy we need a new word for it if you're being gaslit by your dad right yeah for sure yeah yeah we can we can ruminate we're not going to come up with that word we can't come up with it on the spot yeah when i was cruising down pch this afternoon we went hiking we went got lunch blah blah blah and i look in the rear view and i see a couple bikers like 70s style you know bikers like oc chopper bros yeah and then i almost as if I willed it with my telepathic mind.
3:47Jason Stewart:Maddie Matheson appears. Bro, no way. Riding on some fucking chopped low boy. I was literally going to joke was it Maddie and some of his OC homies? Was it the Ruka squad? It was the first time in my life, I'm not trying to make a joke, that I've seen a biker gang like that where it had one black guy in it. How many people were in the gang total? I would say, let's call it six. Six, seven. Don't do that. did you wave no i swear to god i did not try to do a 670 god did you wave at matt did you i mean you wouldn't want to did i chuck the deuce down low no i did not it was i wouldn't yeah you don't want to like scare someone either those motorcycles i was too busy but but like the guy that was in the chopper group you know it's normally orange county dudes covered in tattoos woody woodpecker stp logo you know rook of bros all that shit gracie jujitsu etc etc but the one african-american friend in the group he had lenny kravitz dreads and was like kind of had like a little bit of a rocking bod and i was like very cool is maddie cruising down pch in a in a like a ratty 70s chopper with one lenny kravitz who's to say that's really cool with no camera crew i was trying to i almost crashed the fucking cayenne trying to get a reel a clip from my reel trying to do both at once bro you can't drive and reel at the same damn time no i know you know traffic gets fucking hectic down here dude you're turning you're you're turning into this is like when i go back to the south and i see someone and i'm like if i would have made a few different decisions in my life this would be me that i feel like that's what you're having you're having that moment in laguna carolyn and i are having that moment i would say every 15 seconds for the last 24 hours like we went because every because every couple there is an asian woman and a white guy or for another reason another reason that represents a large chunk of what i'm talking about but not all of it it's i would say the main the main difference or the main like it's like we were a couple of mixed race of origins of some sort which is very popular in orange county not just but more so we are walking around and they're walking around but they have four kids in a cart and a bucket and a stroller and uh you know this and that and helmets and stanley's and all that shit and carolyn and i are just walking just just walking you know carrying nothing but our smiles you know i mean that's how it is in vegas too people pull up they got the fucking people crisscrossing a hotel with one of those four wheel carts that people use for for groceries or the beach filled with their fucking supplies i just don't know the whole point of going on holiday of any kind is to not need supplies you know what i mean like the whole point is that the supplies are there and yes they're going to cost more than you'd like them to but they bring them to your door and you don't have to think about it and it's a couple days of your life you know it's like we take a break from that but i do need to take a break from supplies i do need to tell you something that kind of shocked me as you know i'm not a gambler um and i stay away from the tables at all costs but okay after after thanksgiving dinner shiv was like oh yeah roulette there's no skill involved in that you just pick some stuff and pray i was like okay that's good to know i've never i've never looked into this at all and alex was like yeah i want to try it i was like all right great i give her a bitch turns it into 600 one roll one spin you know what she put put it on my birthday exactly times 35 or whatever i don't remember what the but so so then we walked away and i felt uh it felt powerful to be able to stop doing something that seemed so easy when you because you know deep down it's not easy so you you held yeah you didn't fold exactly yeah we literally went directly to the fucking what do they call it where you get the money the cage went over to the cage handed them let me grab a handy pit boss and head over to the cage yeah yeah Mr.
7:39Jason Stewart:Black why don't we go into a room more comfortable for you little glass of bubbles for the lady right unfortunately but it was I did see I guess it gave me a slight tease I'm like oh I see why people like this so god damn much wow I mean that reminded me of the restraint because while I'm down here in Orange County it's reminding me of when I lived down here in Orange County and I was like some of my friends smoked Oxycontin and had to crash their car and go to rehab and some of my friends smoked Oxycontin once and said eh, I'll go back to Coors Lights and some people they turn 100 into 600 and go dope, I can buy half of a row shoe let's do it I can get a left I'll hit the key.
8:29Jason Stewart:I can get left. This is awesome. Put left on layaway with my little six-piece. But I don't know how to – I feel like the money should be spent frivolously. Of course. But I don't know exactly what the – you know, it's like when you got your rebate checked from having a Prius. Like you got to blow that money. It's dirty money. No ditty. Okay. This is a – what an activity. What an exercise for a lazy Sunday podcast. i'm thinking okay your girl is on a power trip right now because she cashed in she's feeling larger than life hashtag l t l drop that 600 at the ar-15 in the desert shooting range jason it's funny you say that because i have tried to go to the ar-15 shooting range multiple times but even before we left i was talking about how it would be so sick to go to the shooting you couldn't get in shooting range you need the priority pass no no no i've got the priority pass i don't you had the wrong amex i don't know if they let illegal shoot i don't know if they let i don't know if they let i mean you mean because alex is canady yeah dead ass i really mean that i really wow they're gonna ice her ass out that's a bad joke you might you might have to have you might have to have a like a us id i could be wrong i haven't done i haven't been to a shooting range okay well much like your homie and the hang gliding tell alex we're gonna go shoot guns shorty gotta wait and they go, oh, look, it's Homeland Security, but what do you want me to do?
9:50Jason Stewart:Anyway, so my best angle's from the left, and you're going to want to zoom in all the way and make sure you get in me with the rocket launcher. I don't think that, I think it's going to just be carbone, and hopefully it doesn't cost the entire 600 because as soon as I finish this podcast, that's where we're going. But you already, oh, so fun. Okay, you already hit the spa because that seems like you could get some type of dumb, yeah you know get the cbd hot stone treatment i got they really they love stones are made out of cbd that's awesome they love adding cbd i actually got a massage today and the woman and i are making small talk and you know it's like oh yeah i'm from the woman being your masseuse yeah the masseuse yeah we're talking on the not your concierge go ahead on the way from the you know the way from the locker room to the to the the table we're having a talk she's like oh i'm actually i'm I've lived here for 15 or 16 years, but I'm actually from Georgia.
10:45And I was like, the state of? She said, yes. No, she said country. And I said, oh, me too. And she said, yeah, I'm from a small, like, you probably wouldn't know it. Oh, no. Conyers, Georgia, baby, representing out here in big LV. You were blessed by the hands of Conyers today? I was blessed by the hands of Conyers. And I have to say, best high-end hotel massage I've ever had. Because they make sturdy chicks in Conyers. that can put the elbow into the quad and get that shit cracking. I want to just give a big shout-out to my trash hometown because I think that's important. When we have these small victories, when we have these small victories and we look good and God shines his light on us, we must speak on them.
11:25Jason Stewart:Okay, so Conyers, take a dub where you can get it. In this particular instance, Chex Notes got sturdy chicks in it. Dude, that massage was the best. Shout out to the state and the city, but not the person, okay? Yeah, the massage was on the level of Pickle Rick without the charges. Like, it was that serious, but there's no, like it was - Without the allegations? Without the allegations and without having to go to - Do you remember what her - Did she have like a finishing move? Like, you know what I mean? Like, the razor's edge? No, the thing is, and this is when you know somebody's going to give you a good massage, is when they get into the armpit.
12:04when they go armpit lat shit like regular massages don't do that that's like a bridge too far for regular massages
12:11Jason Stewart:she could have armpit kink though that's fine I don't care what she's got it works for me you're a truffle pig I got truffles get to work I think that's a good easy judge of how serious the body work is going to be if they're willing to dig into spots if shorty hit the pit no F1 then it's going to loosen you up what about if a guy hits the pit I don't care. Anybody can hit the pit. I'm taking it. No, anybody can hit. Anybody can hit. I'm wide open in the pit. A no-loads-refuse in Chris Black's armpit? Exactly. That's what I say when I'm asking. Good to know. Are there any problem areas? And I just say, no-loads-refuse in the pit.
12:51That's kind of what I say. That's what I say. Say no more, Mr. Black. That's what I say. They know what I mean. They don't get grossed out. They don't act scandalized. They know exactly what I'm talking about. They play ball. It's nice. It's really nice. It's really nice. Okay.
13:05Jason Stewart:Maybe that 500, is there some dumb luxury item? Well, that's the thing. Small leather good. You know, go to the Balenciaga store and get just like the worst wallet. You know what's really interesting? Because we were here on Thanksgiving Day, and we went to the shops here, the forum shops at Caesars. Of course. Everything's open. All the designer stores are open, popping. It's so funny. Viore, Aloe, Nike, Sephora all closed for Thanksgiving. And I just wonder, there's such a clear distinction between those brands and like Bottega, Balenciaga, Prada, whatever. It's just such an interesting, I don't know, I was just surprised to see that.
13:43Jason Stewart:Well, I mean, I guess it's American brands versus Italian brands who don't celebrate American Thanksgiving. True, but I - Could that be it? Yeah, I mean, definitely. But it's American employees working at their retail locations. But maybe, you know, Vegas is an international city, and there's a lot of people who don't mind working OT to get a little bit more of that Klonopin money this month, baby. No, that's true. But I was surprised by that. But yeah, I mean, I want to go to Chrome Hearts, and maybe that's what we do. Maybe I go. Maybe I hit Chrome Hearts. 500 won't really go too far there, buckaroo.
14:15Well, I mean, I'm looking for a toothpick. That's all. I mean, if that's all I can get. The idea of going into the Chrome Hearts store in Las Vegas and being like, I got 500. I'm not spending a dollar more. And just getting whatever I can get is really funny. I agree. Yeah, you're going to get some fucking Chrome Hearts no-show socks. little three pack i actually think at chrome hearts if you're at the actual store i think a t-shirt is like 250 i think it's when you i think i think on grailed and and fucking justin reed and
14:42Jason Stewart:you know that's when it gets crazy but is it like a rolex store where you're like let me buy that t-shirt like i don't think so i've never bought anything at a chrome heart store uh i've only received chrome as a gift thank god my my first boss gave me several chrome hearts t-shirts in the early 2000s did you wear them with pride or did you not know what you had i didn't know what i had but i still wore with pride because i knew it was expensive if that if that's a sufficient answer that's my boy if that works my boy this episode of how long gone is brought to you by a new podcast from the guardian stateside with kai and carter this is covering a lot of our bases jason it's a it's trying to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world and i know you particularly have quite a lot of questions a lot of questions but how often because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot how many times do they do three times a week and i i have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do that's just a guess the guardian is not some billionaire owned platform they're not afraid to say what they want to say brother yeah rupert ain't sniffing around in in what uh journalists kai right and carter sherman are up to over there at uh stateside but yeah listen wherever you get your podcast.
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17:17Jason Stewart:So people won't even know that you use that sneaky little AI. Oh, God damn it. All right. So head to squarespace.com slash howlong for a free trial. And when you're ready to launch, use offer code howlong to save 10 % off your first purchase of a website or domain. Is the vibe in Las Vegas? Everyone is saying, or I guess they were saying, it's a ghost town. It's blah, blah, blah. Are we feeling like Vegas is back? Shit is lit as fuck. What do people, it's busy everywhere all the time. And this is, I guess last weekend was F1. And this is supposed to be like, when I've talked to like employees and shit, they're like, oh, it's kind of slow.
17:51And I'm like, really? because walking through these hotels, it feels like fucking JFK. You know what I mean? It feels busy as fuck. But I guess their version of busy and my version of busy is very different.
18:02Jason Stewart:Sure, sure, sure. So are you ready to leave? Yeah. Yeah, people say like two days in Vegas. I think day and a half. I mean, yeah, for sure. The goal was accomplished and it was fun and the room has a pool table in it so I've been kind of honing my skills a little bit. Did Alex get a little Pilates session? She was in the gym with me this morning. She's been in the gym every day, actually. She's been lifting some weights. They do have Pilates available, but I feel like it's a whole thing. I always forget when I come here that walking around is so difficult because it's like you can't just cross the street.
18:34You have to use all those fucking pedestrian bridges everywhere. Yeah, it's fucked up. And I totally forgot about that because I remember that in Singapore, and it really bothered me there. And it's a very similar – it's a much cleaner version.
18:45Jason Stewart:I think parts of Canada are like that too for the winter times. Yeah, Canada's got tunnels though too, like underground. yeah yeah gotta use gotta dig out the tunnels uh yeah thanksgiving for me we you had you had your uh your nobu thanksgiving and you said it was enjoyable did we talk we talked we potted right before thanksgiving right yeah we yeah we left on we flew on thanksgiving uh on thanksgiving day which also i thought the airport because i've flown on christmas day many times delta one or no they don't have it's not delta one's only new york uh san francisco la i was just wondering if they're going to have a special indigenous day meal in delta one you know you know what i was thinking about i was thinking about how when they they cook the meal on the plane and and i'm always like i just got back from london i was you know i'm falling asleep and that smell of the food obviously jars me awake and ruins my slumber but why does it i feel like i'm asking an expert here or phone a friend, why is it that all the food, no matter what they're cooking, it smells the same?
19:51Is that the – Great question. Because am I smelling like the oven, like the machines? Yeah, what I'm thinking –
19:59Jason Stewart:Okay, so I know exactly what you mean. It does kind of just smell like miscellaneous food being warmed up in a microwave kind of feeling. Yes, yes, yes. And I think – I was just talking about this with Carolyn. When I was a little kid, my grandma was volunteered as a lunch lady at a school in our neighborhood. And sometimes we would get the school lunch little take-home joints back to the crib. And it was in a little cardboard tray with a plastic wrap. And you use a fork to punch a few holes in the top and you microwave it. And whatever we could, it could be mashed potatoes. It could be chicken nuggets.
20:37Jason Stewart:It could be whatever. Salisbury steak. I don't know. Maybe that's too old. But it all just kind of had the smell of like cooking plastic. Yeah. And metals and textiles and plastics. I like metals. No, it does. It has a metallic flavor to it. Because like things are wrapped in foil. Yeah, you're right. And with like those heat retention cardboard boxes. And, you know, it's kind of, it feels a little like cheating God kind of in the way that food is cooked. and it produces an ungodly odor. It feels like they put a bunch of forks in a styrofoam receptacle, put tinfoil over it, and zapped it for five minutes in a convection oven.
21:22And I just don't... Sous-heed forks? Yeah, I don't know how the menu... Boy, you smell like sous-heed forks. Oh, yeah, and then I took his pants off. Motherfucker smelled like forks. I think I'm having a stroke. I smell forks. I think it's like... Yeah, I don't know. I find it because I think sometimes the food can be, like I'm going to Japan soon, and I think the menu on that flight obviously will be different than the menu on a flight from New York to Las Vegas.
21:48Jason Stewart:Yeah, you're going to get that little chicken curry. I feel like the smell is going to be the same. I feel like no matter what you're doing, what cuisine you're preparing, you're going to get that smell. And this is something that I hope a professional can weigh in on. What a racial tightrope this is. It's like, which race airline is going to have the stinkiest airport microwave food? But I don't think... I can see the Japanese being one of the only airlines, or I would say routes, that did not have a smell just because of their clean, kaiseki way of living. Yeah, it's possible. Everything like, oh, the cabin, it just smells of faint dashi broth.
22:26Jason Stewart:You know what I mean? Well, I wish I was flying a Japanese airline, but I think they merely tailor the menu to the final destination. If they have, you know. Instead, it's going to be, dude, John and Vinny's hooked up a Japanese sweet potato. It's got like fucking, it's like burrata all over it and like pistachios. It's kind of like Italian vibes. But on like a dank Japanese J-sweet.
22:53Japanese J-sweet potato.
22:55Jason Stewart:with hella burrata is so funny they're really good right now like super buttery like kind of like nutty no no it's the sea it's this it's the season i'm joking i'm joking but honestly that sounds pretty good right now just like it does sound no it sounds delicious j-sweet yeah right so right right after we pod you're going to carbone in las vegas which we have dined at before right yes we have you and i yeah we that's the only time i've ever been there was with you we were the only table where it wasn't a guy and his escort huh yeah and still somehow cost me 500 bucks but yeah i mean i don't know i don't know how we did it but yeah i didn't even suck it under the table i think that i remember that meal because i remember being stunned at the price and realizing that you had like one glass of wine or maybe one martini i was like oh did he drink that much i was like oh no no no he didn't drink that much we just had to get a few of the hits you know and it starts adding up you're like damn that's that fusilli tariff is high right now brother The tariffs are hitting everyone.
23:53Jason Stewart:Just ate 75 cents worth of dried pasta. Shit cost me a car note. So you're going to Carbone. You're going to have a beautiful piece of fish and some arugula that's been flown in. Oh, of course. I'm going to say steak frites for Alex. Maybe. Salad instead of fries. Maybe. I mean, I don't like when they serve fries at Italian restaurants. I just want to put that on the record. Italians, they should have chips. Potato chips. crisps aperitivo no i think if you're serving pasta and bread at that clip that fries are just too much like that's just that's just too much if your restaurant is focused on pasta fries feel like a real slap in the face potatoes as a whole are uh feel like a redundancy in the world of pasta honestly yeah i think is that not great is that fair to say it feels not it's a it's a greed of starches exactly it's it's two starch forward my debut novel agreed of A great of starch.
24:52Jason Stewart:So after this, Carolyn and I are going to go to the Gulf Stream, her favorite hillstone property, which is a nautical-themed Houston's. No, I went to the other one when we were there. Bandera? Bandera. Yes, yes. Yeah, the Bandera doesn't really offer too much of a Latin flavor. You'd think it'd be more. I mean, I was - You'd think it'd be a little more Juarez than Houston. How can they make a veggie burger Latin is the question, and I'll leave that to you. You can come back to me with some recipe and menu ideas when you get a chance. Their black bean burger is with brown beans. That's the only real switch up.
25:28Jason Stewart:And then the chips and guac comes with the queso. Too easy. Yeah, so we're going to go down there, have T-Many martinis and some gulf shrimp sliders or whatever the fuck. That's nice, though. I like the 530. Some stone crab biscuits. I was talking to... he described he described a band as sounding like cuckoo clocks and i and i just i don't know why that really stuck with me he said cuckoo clock ass music they sound like cuckoo clock oh do you remember what this band is oh i definitely do but i'm not going to repeat that here uh so bleep it huh uh no no no no no it's not worth it i'll tell you all i'll tell you wow but she said off record But it was just a really funny, I'm like, I got to start describing shit like that.
26:17It's such a funny thing to say.
26:19Jason Stewart:Yeah, well, can you think of a band not the band that you're thinking of right now? No, that's the thing, I can't. I barely even know what it means exactly, but I also know exactly what it means. Well, every hour on the hour, it goes, cuckoo, cuckoo, and you hear ding bells ringing. Sure, sure. what bands sound like cuckoo claw okay we got the resident what the fuck mr bungle yeah mr bungle that that mr bungle stereo lab that's oh hell no mouse on mars i'm with it okay mouse on mars i'll go with don't we're not coming for stereo lab chat gpt the books panda bear broadcast avalanches unfortunately this is yeah these are all bands i kind of like yeah it's just it's a really funny thing to say so there's good cuckoo and there's bad that's true it's just it made me really laugh that that phrase that phrase like i was an astute burn i laughed out loud i lulled um so yeah when i when i got down here for there's a coffee shop right next to our hotel and it's there's like a korean guy from orange county and we're talking about you know just orange county guy stuff and I was talking about how I got to do two.
27:33No, those are 30 inches on my Raptor. Yeah, no, it's sitting on shoes, brother.
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27:38Jason Stewart:No, they're bleds. No, they're bleds. I was saying like, oh, yeah, we got to do two Thanksgivings, one white people, one Asian Thanksgiving. And he was like, oh, yeah, me too. My chick's white. He's a Korean guy. And then it was a nice little flip-flop switch around, but I was wearing my Quince quarter zip when I came down. I was like, I need a good Orange County Thanksgiving uniform, and it was really hitting nicely. But I was noticing the trend that I saw on Twitter about people switching the Nike techs to the quarter zips. Central C, to be clear, Central C, the most famous Nike tech wearer, has switched.
28:21Jason Stewart:Yes, and various YNs across the nation are switching up. It's a good, fun trend. It's a good, fun trend. but then when I got down to Orange County it's not a trend it's like lifestyle yeah it's ingrained it's a civic duty to wear the quarter zip down here I would feel naked without it it was odd so if you are considering a quarter zip honestly I mean not doing an ad read the quince really is perf for me I can't wear I have a Laura Piano one I just don't I would just rather wear a regular sweater I don't know I've tried I don't mind it but I don't know you'd rather wear a DeLauro? No, no, no. I mean, you have a loro and you don't want to wear it.
29:01No, I'm saying I have a Lorpiana navy blue quarter zip, which should be right in my zone. And I've worn it a few times, but I would just prefer to wear a regular crew neck or a V-neck sweater.
29:10Jason Stewart:Chris, be honest with me. Could it fit a little better? No, it fits great. It's just something about the zipper does make it a little tighter in the chest area for some of us. Yeah, but you got the titties. You want to show them off. I don't actually want to show them off at all. That's the problem. Huh. No. I want my clothes to be loose. The girls on TikTok and Instagram have a word for it. It's called Thinspo. No, no, no. They have a word for it when they have hot bodies. Hashtag ED? No, it's like these workout chicks that have crazy bodies, but they wear baggy shit so men can't tell. Oh. There's a term for it.
29:46There's a term for it that they use. That's the hashtag they use, and then it'll show them take it off, and you're like, oh, shit. Is it like buff studs? No, it's like hot regular chicks. It's a hot regular chicks who lift vibe but they're wearing a giant t-shirt. And then they take it off and they have fucking guns.
30:08Jason Stewart:I'm looking it up. There's a term for it. Term for muscular women who wear baggy clothes to hide it. Undercover muscular or stealth muscular? Stealth. I think it's stealth. I think they're just like, yeah, I'm going stealth. Which is not obviously original. Sleeper build? Shorty got a sleeper build. Sleeper build. Yes, sleeper build. Hashtag sleeper build or hashtag shadow sculpted, hidden build, covered powerhouse, or quiet muscle type. Quiet muscle type. No, the first one. Sleeper build sounds like my fucking like 86 Land Cruiser project. No, sleeper build open for cave in is what that sounds like.
30:43That sounds a little more like that to me, but both. Sleeper build, coalesce split seven inch. But sleeper build also, it sounds like a weird like web three.
30:51Jason Stewart:Okay, so this is the type of bodybuilding woman who has her Instagram handle airbrushed on her Jeep Wrangler. She also might have a custom decal with her Instagram handle on there. Sure, sure. Either. It's a die cut or it's a custom. And if she drives a Jeep, you know she's got hella ducks up front. All the rubber duckies. The fucking dashboard. You can't see the dashboard. She's ducked up. She's got a couple back covers for women's fitness quarterly. Back covers. She'll let the stealth build. Yeah, it's stealth, bro. I don't get the full cover. It's just like low key. I think it's good because I guess people really do holler at each other at the gym, but as a person who's at the gym every day, I don't think I've ever seen it happen.
31:39I've never seen it happen. I've never seen a guy just be like, this chick's bad on the Stairmaster and go up and start talking to her. I've never seen that.
31:44Jason Stewart:I've never seen a holler, but I've seen a lot of hovers. same letters rhymes there's a lot of leering hovering simping yeah that's fine no it's not fine that's bad talking is the worst thing you can do though yeah I guess so interrupting someone is the worst thing that you could do at the gym in my opinion my move I knock their tripod camera over with my 45 plate and then I act like she did it oops Wow You're just in my way I guess I was listening to Joe Budden today And they talked about Thanksgiving For An hour maybe Like about let me get a plate Plate this plate that I love plate culture They love plate culture but I'm just like Thanksgiving Is so awful And I just didn't know I don't know I just didn't know people like adults participated like that I guess people in our life just don't really.
32:47You know what I mean? Like our peers.
32:49Jason Stewart:Well, I think it depends on how much food and cooking culture is in your family. Because to me. That's a good point. Thanksgiving food, it's sort of like the Olympics. It's like the Met Gala of cookout food or like soul food or you know what I mean? True. good old down home american cooking like this is the big show for your mashed potatoes and gravy and cornbread and stuffing and blah blah blah you know what i mean that's i say all real shit that's a good point that's a good point i do i mean i have i have the one thing i but also i saw a story it might have been the new york times where they were talking about like how to deal with your different families political views at thanksgiving and i was like what year is it like are we still doing that shit where it's like oh my fucking uncle like i couldn't believe it i was like they have they had like 35 writers like media people weighing in on how they deal with i'm like you guys got it like tips and tricks on how to navigate you got to be making this up you got to be making this up like that does i i don't i come from that kind of place and that doesn't has never happened to me in my entire life get out your fucking wallet it's time to talk about rocket money baby I'm trying to save some money.
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34:21Jason Stewart:Yeah, it does make sense. I think it really boils down to everyone knows it, but they just don't have the time. They don't want to do it. Everyone knows they can go clean all the clothes out of their closet, sell them and then take that money and buy and buy you know a dream vacation or a trip to geneva or a new rolex but you just don't do you don't have the time it's too much work luckily nowadays places like rocket money do it all for you they're happy to do it for you so then all that money that you're saving we can turn that into truly whatever it is that you want just make sure that you're not just taking all that money and resubscribing to the same services that you didn't use before okay I've never done anything like that.
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36:03Jason Stewart:No, it's never, I don't know, but it really does feel, like you said, is this still happening? It reminds me of like antiquated, like 70s sitcom story tropes, like, oh, the boss is coming over for dinner and my souffle deflated, or, you know, like it's a disaster. or like, oh my God, my uncle is coming to the dinner table and he doesn't like gay people and I'm bringing my boyfriend for the first time. Like, I don't think that stuff really happens anymore realistically in 2025. I just think there's no surprises because your uncle follows you on Instagram and knows that you have a fucking septum piercing and wear a skirt.
36:41You know, it's not crazy. It's like, it's just, there's nowhere to, how could you surprise any family member, I guess? But I think, I don't know.
36:49Jason Stewart:And you could just sit on your phone for 45 minutes and then go to your room. And it's not like the old days where you really had to sit there and take it. That's another thing. You have an escape is what you're saying. Mm-hmm. That's what I do too, bro. Are you kidding me? And the racist uncle that you're worried about is going to be on Facebook on his phone at the dinner table anyways. It's not a big deal, guys. There's nothing better than looking over at the racist uncle and seeing his font on 150, looking at like. I saw a guy on the plane. This kills me every. I've seen this kind of a lot, actually, where he's got the iPad and it's zoomed in huge and he's reading the New York Post digital edition front to back.
37:29Front to back? And I'm just like, dude, I know that you think this is making you dumber. You know what I mean? I think reading anything but page six and the front page is making you dumber, especially at that font size.
37:43Jason Stewart:Right, right. Like reading the real stories being written in that will only do harm. Yeah. There's no upside to that. There's zero, zero upside. You'd be better off reading just headlines from any other newspaper. Some people want to be radicalized, man. I get it. Fuck it. I get it. I saw that a friend of the show, Kai Gerber, has switched up her relationship status. I don't know if you heard about this. She broke up with Louis Pullman, and now she's dating a guy named Homer, who is Richard Gere's son. Yeah. I'm pretty sure he's on Carolyn's radar. Wasn't Cindy Crawford? Didn't Cindy Crawford date Richard Gere or maybe marry Richard Gere?
38:29Damn, is that your cousin type shit?
38:32Jason Stewart:It's pretty sick. Kaia Gerber's the bratty step sis? Between fucking Kaia Gerber and Zoe Kravitz, women are eating. No Thanksgiving. These chicks are doing whatever they want, and they're making us look like clowns, and I like it. We're not clowns. we're boy toys. That's fine. That's fine. I mean, like Harry Styles walking around. Yeah, let a golden retriever play fetch. You know what I mean? Yeah, I do. I do. I just saw that and I was like, wait a second. That's like really extreme. But if love is calling. Look, when you're at the top, why not? You know what I mean? It's true. No, it's true. They find each other.
39:11Jason Stewart:You go to the Delta One Lounge, you're gonna get the caviar. How many people tagged you in that that lounge New Yorker article. So yeah, the New Yorker had a, an article about just lounges. A lot of people sent it to me saying like, yo, you got to talk about this on the podcast, but I don't really think there was much to talk about that. We haven't already talked about. It was, it was pretty, I didn't know the history of like, it was well written. Whoever wrote it. I was like, I like this person's style of writing. You know, it was fun. I didn't know. I didn't know the history of the lounge. Like I didn't know that it started, like as an invite only i just didn't realize the history of it i guess and now it's just a scam for credit card companies but i did like how he ate like all he just did everything at all of them which is i know that's your job but it's also disgusting the thing that that struck me that upset me the most was talking about a guy i forgot it was somewhere in asia maybe or oh the guy that went to him for like a month straight he's yeah he's he like scammed the system on a loophole he missed a flight and went from lounge to lounge to lounge in the same airport for 18 days um just like living at the airport and then which is like one of those like catch me if you can like oh you got me this time like you got a free fucking yeah charcuterie plate and a iced tea but they fucking threw the guy in jail and charged him with fraud i know just just for like hopping around at the lounge that seems so excessive eating a free turkey sandwich shouldn't land you in jail.
40:45Jason Stewart:No. But also, if it was in Singapore or something like that where the laws can be a little more harsh. Yeah, that's true. It definitely was in a country where the laws are harsh. That would never happen in America. They would think it was funny. No, in America, they're like, dude, will you post for a selfie with me? He'll go on Good Morning America with Al Roker and have a good old time. How'd you do it? Wow. I did find that story pretty... I think that the whole... The way that it's just a battle for credit cards and that airline, blah, blah, blah. I think it is pretty interesting because they're going to keep, like, because it's so mass and they're so popular, it can never actually be that nice.
41:22Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And I think that's the struggle. It's like, how do you keep elevating it when it can never be that nice because there's just so much foot traffic alone? It can't feel that good, you know? I mean, even the Delta One, Delta One is fucking popping. Those lounges are packed. Yeah. Like, it's hard to find a seat.
41:40Jason Stewart:And they're packed full of people who do not look like they can afford an$8 ,000 flight. Well, that's because the people that can afford an$8 ,000 flight don't want to look like they can afford an$8 ,000 flight, which I respect. Yeah, I guess so. But I also think it's also - You can usually sniff it on them, though. It's business travel, though. It's people not paying for it themselves. That's true. I mean, I think it says that in the story, too, that like those tickets like - Yeah, but it looks like they're traveling because they're a fucking librarian or something. No, I mean, the real - I mean, you see guys - Not like they own fucking Jimmy John's.
42:08I love it when I see a guy with a hard hat, like the guy that brings his own hard hat because he's that high up at the construction company. I find that to be aspirational in some ways. Sitting in D1? It's so cool. Perks of the job. Yeah, I just didn't realize some of the initial stuff, but I wonder how much further it can be taken at this point.
42:32Jason Stewart:Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things, because the Delta classes, instead of adding delta 2 or whatever delta clear or whatever is above delta 1 they just start breaking the other categories up into subcategories classic and extra so now instead they're like it's it's the same foot long sandwich it's just in 12 bites instead of half you know what i mean so they're making it look like it's more but like what do you do is it just like you you bought a delta one ticket and our concierge like our headhunter or pr person or social media correspondent whatever or do we use ai to decide who gets to have access to the delta two lounge i i think they're gonna keep i think it's it's because it can't just be money i think well i think it's gonna start being it's no they're just gonna start giving more and more shit you don't want I don't care if John and Vinny's made the meatballs.
43:29It's going to be more of that. It's nice. It isn't, though. It isn't because when you're in that environment, it's never going to feel like it should feel. It might taste pretty good.
43:39Jason Stewart:No, it never feels the way it should feel, but even if it is just a full placebo effect, psychosomatic, this is the same exact food, but it just straps on the John and Vinny's name on the menu, it still makes it 10 % more enjoyable. Do you think that because of contracts with providers, that the actual ingredients and all—I think all the ingredients and all the food at the airport are coming from the same place, correct? I don't know. I normally would think that with crazy unions and restrictions, and that's what has to happen. But I know that on some of the Delta flights, it's like, this is cookbook granola.
44:17Jason Stewart:So I think some things— I mean more like— Or maybe, I mean, is it possible that they're using ingredients from the airport thingy and then making the granola? Oh, I shudder to think. They have to because there's no, I mean, it's like if you own. Because if I worked at Cookbook, I could put some fucking C4 and fentanyl and bullets and shit inside the granola and sneak it in through the homie and serve it. No, they're not. That's all fake. Al-Qaeda front row. Like, here's your bullet, sir. And he puts it in his 3D printed gun. There's no way. Because also if you own, like when airports have small businesses in the airport, like a bookstore, a coffee shop or whatever to make it feel local, those are operated by the airport.
45:00You don't get to hire. No.
45:02Jason Stewart:The Moose Lounge bookstore in Minnesota airport is not real? No, I'm saying it's real, but if you can't hire your own people, then they're definitely not letting you bring in your own potatoes to make the french fries taste better. There's no fucking way. Do you think the berries instructors are just like random people that also work at Shake Shack? Maybe. Maybe. Anything's possible. There's not a berries at the airport, but could you imagine? No, but the juice press at LaGuardia is bad because the employees are bad and they don't care. You know what I mean? They don't know how to make a smoothie.
45:33Jason Stewart:They're like, it's the same recipe as juice press. We just use fucked up carrots, bro. They use bad stuff, but they also, it's not made with love. You can feel that. You know what I mean? Ooh, it doesn't have that JP soul. It doesn't. Yeah. It's like JP Smooth's cousin. it doesn't have the soul but it really is it makes it i think damn you're talking like me no it doesn't have the soul in it no i just think a smoothie i i think that smoothies have to be i told the guy at my local equinox i was like bro i gotta tell you something you're the you're the goat of this shit at this location your your shit is thick you're the goat of this shit meaning making my smoothie yes i was like i want you to know that you're the by far the best Did I tell you that the Equinox and Tribeca, they were out of bananas for three days in a row?
46:17Jesus fucking Christ. And I was like, what do you mean you're out of bananas? They're like, we're out of bananas. I'm like, well, so we can't make any.
46:26Jason Stewart:One of the most ubiquitous food items on the planet. And they're like, our boss is making us. And I was like, well, why don't you just go to the bodega and get some bananas? And they're like, we can't do that. And I was like, all right. well and i came back the next i was like they could tell i was they were so annoyed that i was being i just was like this is too unbelievable this feels fake yeah i mean but what when back when we were teens working in the smoothie shop and you run out of bananas your 19 year old manager says go to fucking ralph's and get a case of bananas bro i mean you see it in new york all the time you see like guys from restaurants buying fucking 60 you know 60 cans of beans or whatever at Whole Foods because they need them in the delivery.
47:07Jason Stewart:Yeah, we ran out of butter. Yeah. But yeah, but nowadays, you know, everyone's just like, I have, I have, if there's not a button for what you just ask me on my iPad, I have to shut down physically and mentally. You know what I mean? Like, there's no protocol for that. I saw somebody talking about how their coffee shop didn't do like Starbucks-style like mobile ordering and like the person that owned it was like, yeah, I'm not gonna, they're like, if I start allowing that and you'll never have, telling this person you'll never have another conversation with a human being if i don't fucking if i fucking if i succumb to the pressure then you're not you're gonna i'm gonna stunt your growth and many people like you he's doing it for him he just wants to talk you gotta stand up um you gotta stand up i have a we were we were hiking this morning top of the world beautiful hike up there but there was it's like a big mountain biking spot and there's a lot of kind of like rich orange county dad cosplaying as like mountain biker types of guys.
48:03Jason Stewart:And I was thinking like once you buy a shirt for mountain biking, like once your t-shirt isn't good enough for mountain biking, that's when you know you've sort of crossed over into the nether region. You know what I mean? Like you can't ride a mountain bike in the park with your son without wearing like a dry fit jersey. But is this spandex? Well, this is how I feel about the running vest. and if I talk to any of my real runners, they're like, bro, if you're running in the city, you don't need a vest with gels and six water bottles to do eight miles. Like you don't need that. Like you think it looks cool, which is fine, but you don't need it.
48:40The same way if you're a rich guy in Orange County mountain biking on the weekends with your friends, you probably don't need the most technical gear that is available to you.
48:48Jason Stewart:Right, but you're doing it so you can have something to post with your meta glasses kind of vibe. It's not because you're like, I'm really trying to get my, of like jumps good i'm not trying to like barrel this new fucking gnarly drop off trying to get my jumps good it's like i got this new 360 drone and it's gonna follow me and then i could upload it it feels like that but um we were we were sitting we had a little continental breakfast like at the hotel kind of vibe and there was uh the room next to us were a family from ohio and they were like i don't know i guess obviously on vacation visiting but they woke up at like 6 a.m to get coffee and we're like super loud by our door and woke us up and we were kind of pissed off and then we go we're sitting down at the little breakfast area and then they sit next to us again all this loud talk like midwestern people really be talking but one of them there's two dogs they both had these golden retrievers and they're like super well trained and have dumb names and shit and the mom asks the dog super loud did mommy give you eggies after her daughter feds a soft boiled egg to this dog oh and and carolyn and i i just couldn't control my laughter and i i've i've just been repeating did mommy give you eggies in my mind all day that should be punishable by law like that's fucking crazy dogs there's dogs in casinos i didn't know you could bring a dog to a casino people walk around with a fucking dog in a casino is so crazy to me i know we need to get away from our dogs we need to get away from our bad stuff as well as our good stuff i think we need to get away from our good stuff more than the bad stuff no offense to our ohio listeners but i think if from Ohio, having a dog is all you got.
50:43You know? There's not much. I mean, there's not, you know. No offense taken there. I get it. Shout out to Cleveland. You know, shout out to Cincinnati. Of course, they've given us so much great stuff. I flew to Columbus on Southwest. Columbus? How could I forget? The great state of Ohio. The great state of Ohio. But I just don't think that, I don't think there's much action there. So if you don't have a golden retriever, what's the purpose of living, really?
51:06Jason Stewart:Football. College football and dog ownership, I guess. college football is the Ohio State University which we taught you about the other day yeah I learned I learned about the Ohio college football shit is really no joke it's like an infection I know who are we talking about that with who was saying that and I got it we were talking about it on the pod the last pod or one before that it was definitely not the podcast with Matty Diaz or Haley Benton Gates but we did say the Ohio State I feel like it was very recently. It was recently. I don't think we would discuss college football with other of those women.
51:44No, I don't think so either. I don't think so either. Who knows?
51:47Jason Stewart:I like getting away from, you know, just whatever, getting away from the screens on vacay. Dude, LA's fucking crazy, bro. I have to come down to Orange County, brick up, and just kind of like. Brick up? But Orange County is like bricking your life, though. You know what I mean? Like you have to. Yeah, you brick your life. You don't have to be around anybody that's not white. It's so sick. that's that's exactly no no no laguna beach has a very strong indian population i i know that from i i do know that but i did you yeah because when we stayed at the um the ritz there they they had all these weddings and there was a great indian restaurant in the hotel and i was like what's up why this is such an interesting choice and like oh no it's like a big this is huge in the indian community this is like a hot spot it's like oh i had no idea yeah restaurant was banging i guess Because I was thinking about it earlier.
52:36Jason Stewart:I would come here when we were teens and go to the Krishna temple, which is Indian adjacent or whatever. And I was like, so why do Indian people love Laguna Beach? And I feel like Indian people are a very meditative, serene, spiritual person. And it's definitely the most meditative city in Orange County. You know, it's very, we're reflecting by the sea and we're eating fresh produce and vegetables and lentils and praying to God and meditating. Nothing I want more than to pray to God and have a hot bowl of lentils. That sounds fucking, that sounds great. I have to go, when I get back, I have to go to, well, I don't have to, I'm going to.
53:22I'm lucky enough to go to Chicago on Tuesday. Oh, lucky. It's going to be so warm. Because snow caps are touring, and I haven't seen. I'm going to miss New York and L.A., so I have to go to one of the shows. But I didn't realize it was snowing in Chicago. Somebody was like, oh, it's going to be cold. I was like, yeah, whatever. I didn't realize it had snowed anywhere yet. I feel like it's been so warm.
53:42Jason Stewart:You haven't been watching football games, bro? It's snowing out there. It's been so warm in New York. It hasn't even been serious jacket weather yet. So I've been kind of out of the zone. Hey, I get it, bro. I don't want to have to wear a jacket, bro. It's happening now. Do you have a snow shoe for this season? No. What's it going to be? I wear the same. If it's really snowing, I wear those Solomon cross country because they zip up the front and they're fully waterproof. Those are my number ones. I got the Nike Stussy boots, which I really like, but they're suede on them. So that's tough. Do you have a more formal winter moment?
54:18Jason Stewart:No. What is a formal winter boot for snow? I mean, I guess like a Danner, like a hiking boot. If you have to go to a wedding at the grill in the snow, what you going to do? Oh, I'm going to wear Belgian loafers and figure it out. I'm not wearing a snow. That is sexy. Go off. Morehouse makes a really cool alpine boot that zips up the front. I've looked at a few. I mean, the classic Red Wing is probably the best if you want to just rock with it. You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess I always wondered, what does Mr. Big on Sex and the City wear when it snows? Or does it just not snow on SATC? Well, no, when you have a driver, you can still wear your fucking John Lobb lace-ups to the office.
54:59Jason Stewart:The sidewalks are heated in front of Epstein's house. But maybe, yeah, maybe. Maybe, but maybe, I don't, you know, this is a tough question because I don't wear, yeah, I don't know. I really like the Solomon ones because they work so well. But you're right. They're not appropriate for every situation. What do you think about, I've been reading Thanksgiving stuff about how this was the year where we're moving away from drunk Thanksgiving, like I'm going to get wasted to tolerate my relatives, and now it's moved on to marijuana to tolerate my relatives. Is this better or worse? Is it neutral? I mean, that's what society has been doing for the last five years.
55:39Jason Stewart:The cousin walk has finally reached mainstream. Dude, if I have to hear about the fucking cousin walk one more time. What's worse, plug walk or cousin walk? Cousin walk. Nothing is funny about it. Nothing is clever about it. It's also not a real thing. I don't think that like, I don't know, my cousins didn't ever smoke with me. So I was smoking alone. Yeah, because I feel like alcohol is something that brings people together. And I think marijuana is maybe a little more, you know, I'm going inwards kind of vibe. I'm becoming perhaps less social I think for some people After my cuz walk But then if my cousin and I Put a little fucking Tito's in the Martinelli's And we get a little twisted Then maybe we become a little more friendly Let me suggest something that would probably be better for everybody How about a coke walk Do a couple bumps with your cousin You come back, you're chatting to grandma Everybody's getting along We go over to the little The park that has one half court and some of the old people workout thingies.
56:44Jason Stewart:And then you go over there and just a couple little tutors. Just do a line. Whose iPhone are we going to do? But honestly, I think this is a good idea. If you're going to do any drug at Thanksgiving, first of all, Coke is going to make you eat less, which is great. Overeating is unavoidable on Thanksgiving until the Coke walk. Do a Coke walk. Do a couple bumps. I mean, I don't think a lot of people have cousins that cool. I like my cousins quite a lot, but I don't think they would do a bump with me, even in my headiest days. I've done coke at Thanksgiving, though, for sure. Really? Fuck yeah. Do a bump with me.
57:16Come on now. I've done a couple. Yeah, I mean, I just, at certain points, it's like, this is just another night, you know? I'm going to go out afterward, especially on Blackout Wednesday, you know, because you're going out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going out after. Like, Thanksgiving Day, I think bars would open in Atlanta. I think a bar would open at, like, five.
57:33Jason Stewart:So we're, I'm, like, so hurting from Blackout Wednesdays. And then I need a bump just to make it to Thanksgiving for my 3 p.m. dinner, right? I remember having some like Roxy's, like the little blue and just one Thanksgiving just getting fun. I was just my parents. I was scratching my legs so much. They fucking they must thought I had a disease. Oh, he loved the stuffing. Get him some more of that. I was itching for it. I was fucking stuffed. I was fucking both nostrils. I was having the time of my fucking life. Yeah, definitely. I've done Coke at a Christmas thing, too. Yeah, I just, these are just parties.
58:07Let's like really break it down. Yeah. Is your family -
58:09Jason Stewart:There's a difference between a party and a party where all of your family is hanging out at. Who gives a fuck? Family - I will say one paranoid coke heads give a fuck. Let me tell you something right now. At least in my family, I don't think, I bet I might be the, I bet there's one other person at Thanksgiving dinner that's done cocaine in their entire life. So, okay, so you show up yeeted off of - No, I'm not showing up yeeted. I'm going to eat a little bit first. Excuse myself. Do a couple. I mean, you always have to eat before you show up to a public dinner. It's unbecoming to eat. Yeah, you can't eat on camera.
58:46Jason Stewart:Especially as a woman, but it's still tough for you. I'm closer to a woman. Get a good base and then eat. So your family is like, oh, Chris must have had an extra shot in his latte today or something. He's a little hyper and his teeth are a little chattery. Unless your family is really about it, I don't think they're going to catch on to you doing a couple bumps is what I'm saying. Whereas if you're stoned, everybody knows because it smells, your eyes are low, you're giggling. It's a dead giveaway. Coke is the best holiday drug, I would say. Yeah, you're coked up. But then I guess both the Coke and the weed at Thanksgiving, both of you guys are going to forget to drink water and then drink all of your water in one sip.
59:30Jason Stewart:And they're going to be like, something's going on with them. No, you could just be thirsty. That's fine. The stuffing was a little salty this year. How many times have you had a cocaine water sip where you, the whole bottle in one? Straight down. That's next day usually. That's like, that's like after a night, after busting out a ball with the homies, sometimes you can wake up and that Poland Springs is, it goes, it disappears. Busting down a ball. He was on a sick one full of the mad ball. Yeah. You got to take down the Poland Springs. nothing better because the Poland Springs the plastic doesn't have the thickness of a Fiji so you can kind of crumples as you're like a Marvis tube it's a satisfying when you're really sucking it down it's a satisfying feeling because when you have cocaine running through your thick veins you want to squeeze and you don't want to let go do you you're telling me bro oh baby oh my goodness Thanksgiving rocks maybe I'm back maybe I like Thanksgiving now okay Thanksgiving once you don't make it about food the doors open up I completely agree with you okay beautiful well it's time for us to go eat our meals now Chris how long gone we're back next week we got some fun ones next week actually oh do we yeah we do I forgot we got OPN yeah and Roddy oh yeah it's gonna be just the lads December with the lads December with the lads yeah how long gone thank you for listening we're back with more podcasts next week happy Thanksgiving to all you fucking turkeys out there and run your game we're getting ready for holiday party season bro the calendar's filling up I can already feel myself gaining weight it's sick cause I don't have any I'm literally going to Japan the week of the holiday parties I'm kind of I just didn't plan it that way but I'm realizing that now which is fine So this is like going to Charlie's wedding during fashion week.
1:01:28Jason Stewart:It's like, what am I going to do? I'll be fine. I'll be fine. Chris. Well, thank you. Thank you guys for listening. I hope everyone had a dope holiday. Let's get back to it. Monday. We're going to grind. We're going to fucking kick ass. Okay. Love you guys. Bye.
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One-on-one pod today, Chris was in Las Vegas, and Jason was in Laguna Beach, CA. We chat about low-key hang gliding weather, motorcyclist Matty Matheson spotted in the wild, how to spend Alix's Vegas winnings, all plane food smells the same, despite the dish, pasta and bread restaurants shouldn't serve potatoes as well, it's excessive, the quarter-zip sweater gains momentum in the hood, New Yorker piece on airport lounges, performative mountain biking, lentils by the sea, and we make a slight adjustment to the Thanksgiving "cousin walk."
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