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Podcast Summary: How Long Gone - Episode 883: Chris & Jason

Episode Overview In this one-on-one episode, hosts Chris Black and Jason Stewart discuss various topics stemming from Chris's recent trip to Japan. The conversation encompasses a wide range of subjects including food, personal anecdotes, pop culture, and reflections on current trends in the entertainment industry.

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Key Themes and Discussions

Chris's Experience in Japan

  • Cultural Observations:
  • Chris describes Japan as exhausting yet exhilarating; he mentions the sushi experience and the unique cultural expectations.
  • He humorously notes the "backwards" differences in customs and societal norms compared to the U.S.
  • Acupuncture and Wellness:
  • Shares a humorous story about a "velcro sleeveless acupuncture shirt" he wore during a massage.
  • Discusses the acupuncturist’s insights regarding his tight hamstrings and their impact on his foot pain.

Food and Dining Experiences

  • Eating Habits:
  • Discussion of Chris's reluctance to eat certain foods (e.g., shrimp shells) and his preference for simpler dining experiences over Michelin-starred establishments.
  • Describes an interesting dish of baked miso served on a small pedestal, emphasizing the high quality of Japanese cuisine.
  • Dining Philosophy:
  • Emphasizes a preference for quality over hype in dining, suggesting that he would rather enjoy a "7" rated restaurant than wait for a "9" rated place.

Holiday Parties and Social Scene

  • Chris recounts attending multiple holiday parties and the dynamics of celebrity interactions within those settings.
  • Discusses the absurdity of fashion at these events, including the prevalence of Supreme jackets.

Pop Culture Insights

  • Shifts in Celebrity Appearances:
  • Commentary on current trends where celebrities are brought on stage during performances, along with a mention of Lily Allen's recent SNL performance.
  • Musical Commentary:
  • Discussion of Nas's new album, highlighting how it incorporates themes of cryptocurrency and tech investments.
  • Reflects on how age affects cultural relevance in music.

Restaurant Trends and Recommendations

  • LA Times Best Restaurant List:
  • A breakdown of the LA Times' 101 best restaurants, with emphasis on personal opinions about the rankings.
  • Highlights notable restaurants like Mercado La Paloma and Cato.

Miscellaneous Observations

  • Trends in Media:
  • Commentary on the shift of writers pivoting to video content and how it reflects on the media landscape.
  • Personal Quirks:
  • Chris and Jason share personal anecdotes and their quirky behaviors, including their preferences for dining, clothing, and social interactions.

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Key Takeaways

  • The podcast blends humor with critical observations about food, culture, and societal norms.
  • Chris's experiences in Japan serve as a focal point for broader discussions on wellness and dining experiences.
  • The evolving nature of celebrity culture and media consumption is discussed in relation to current trends.
  • Personal anecdotes enrich the dialogue, providing an intimate glimpse into the hosts' lives and perspectives.

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Conclusion This episode reflects the unique blend of personal storytelling, cultural critique, and humor that characterizes *How Long Gone*. Chris and Jason's banter makes for an engaging listen, offering insights into their lives while also addressing larger societal trends. The conversation fluidly navigates through topics, leaving listeners with both laughter and food for thought.

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0:17Chris Black:How long gone, Mr. Me Too, Chris Black. Last morning in Tokyo, Jason, the sun is shining over the beautiful, beautiful city. I got the windows open. I mean, the shades open, the windows not open. Obviously, that'd be dangerous.

0:30Jason Stewart:I don't know how they do things in Japan.

0:32Chris Black:It's different. It's all backwards. And I have to say -

0:35Jason Stewart:Suicide rate is high over there.

0:36Chris Black:I'm ready to go, as they say in English.

0:40Jason Stewart:I'm ready to go with the rooftop shouted out. That's you?

0:46Chris Black:That's a good one. That's a really good one. I haven't thought about that in a long time. Yeah, that's me. I'm just cooked. It's an exhausting place to visit in a good way because you're getting it in.

0:57Jason Stewart:This eel is fried. this Tamago is well done

1:03Chris Black:yeah exactly

1:04Jason Stewart:okay so your dogs are still barking also shout out to our friends at Hoka Hoka is listening they did send us some free shoes in hopes of you walking around I saw they have like a Hoka you know how New Balance has their little version of the loafer Hoka does that as well

1:22Chris Black:is that something that you would consider

1:25Jason Stewart:as you're browsing the bookstores and bookshops of Osaka

1:28Chris Black:Those are the enemy in every way, no matter who makes them. But that is nice. I really appreciate when someone that works at a major corporation is good at their job. And that's what I have to give Hoka credit for here.

1:43Jason Stewart:I agree. It's like, hey, what do you give them? Maybe we'll send them a box with an award and some chocolates and a water bottle. And you're like, okay, thank you for this water bottle. I've never owned a water bottle, so now I know what to do. And then, you know, you need somewhere in between box full of useless shit and here's a thousand dollars, you know, because it's almost a little, you know, I almost feel like a pro at that point. It's like it's a it loses all of its magic. You need a little something just like how you suggest it. It's fine. It's yeah, I'm saying that just like here's a free shoe.

2:17Jason Stewart:Get it for yourself. Get it for your mom. Whatever. Do your thing.

2:21Chris Black:Do your thing. I mean, I was, my dogs were barking, and then I did go see David Marks put me in touch with a acupuncturist slash masseuse yesterday, and my man got me fucked up. I feel good. I slept like a rock.

2:36Jason Stewart:Okay. What was his style? What was his discipline of body work?

2:40Chris Black:Well, what's interesting and what I like, no oil, no lotion. Just straight up, I'm getting in there. No soy sauce? No soy sauce, but I had to put on this funny little, yeah. he did it with his hands too he ate with his hands i had to i had to put on up i had to

2:58Jason Stewart:god damn it i learned that on giro that you can actually just palm that nigiri and it's all g

3:03Chris Black:i've seen it i've seen a couple white boys doing that and i say nah bro that's disrespectful some

3:08Jason Stewart:people guys some people don't benny blanco picks it up with his hands the sushi chef's like i'd rather not i know that it's okay and i said it's okay in the doc man you know just something about

3:16Chris Black:it doesn't feel right but but the thing about it was i thought i was just gonna you know usual massage style all right i'll just i'll go into the bathroom here and i'll get down to my skivvies

3:25Jason Stewart:and then i'll get on the table get to face down ass up unfortunately get into position unfortunately

3:29Chris Black:there's a little outfit involved and it was it handed to me folded up very nicely very japanese and it's it's a it's baby blue in color and it's a pair of sort of knee grazing baggy shorts that were a little too small in the waist and then this this sleeveless top that has a zip quarter zip in the front and then on the back it's all velcro and sporty and rich just ripped it off damn that was fast i put i i put this over my i mean it's skin it feels like i'm wearing fucking

3:59Jason Stewart:a bulletproof vest it's tight as hell okay so it's a sleeveless top that's a quarter zip in

4:05Chris Black:the front and then what happens in the back velcro in the back so they can like basically they rip the velcro open so they can hit the spots with the needles but i'm sitting i'm busting out of the thing i got titty i my cleavage i had to zip it i had to zip it down a little

4:20Jason Stewart:cardi b in this little cardi b in the corset he's got his foot in your ass he's trying to get the velcro shut it won't take will it i went i went lotto mode and zipped it down a little bit

4:30Chris Black:in the front because it was too tight in the front i was like damn bro okay i like the baby blue

4:40Jason Stewart:kind of basketball knee length shorts it's very snow strippers of you it's cute it was the whole

4:45Chris Black:thing was funny and then he got in there and i was like oh this is he he basically said that my dogs are barking so severely because my hamstrings are just so tight and then i gotta really work on

4:54Jason Stewart:the hammies wait did he tell you that it's all connected though i'm not gonna say he didn't say those exact words thank god he resisted that there's a word in japan in japanese that's just for like the body is like totally all connected the body keeps the score so yeah so he said the

5:10Chris Black:hammies are so tight that it's making your feet hurt yeah it's giving me plantar fasciitis so i'm i'm i worked through it yesterday and then i i did luckily i've been i've been coming back and hitting the sauna and i'm you know mike nouveau's mike nouveau's here and he's like you know eating two dinners a night they're going out him and you know the whole thing and i'm just like dude i don't have it in me after walk after shopping for nine hours a day i can't also go to the izakaya at 10 p.m you know what i mean i don't want to smell like i don't want to smell

5:41Jason Stewart:like meat before i go to bed you don't want to have some alleyway liver of a no i mean unknown

5:48Chris Black:animal the food is so good though it's one of those situations i don't know if there's other places like this i'm sure there are and maybe you know of them but i i just feel like when the standard is high enough it makes me less interested in going to the quote-unquote spots

6:02Jason Stewart:like when when a place that you walk when they're all spots then yeah let's just go to the spot when

6:07Chris Black:the place that you're walking off the street is a seven and the other place that's two hour wait is a nine i'm good i'm good with the seven if we went to college that would be our rule too well that was actually posted above the toilet at my frat house why wait in line all night for

6:23Jason Stewart:a fucking 9.3 when we got sevens just ready to go we got sevens ready to go dude okay okay that i mean that's a good that makes sense because at that point when if you're not necessarily you know a jonathan gold level gourmand and you're you you a japanese seven that's fucking good for you right like like we're we're good to go we don't need any crazy michelin shit so you're all good so then you're able to eat at only places that you enjoy the aesthetic and vibe from well i found a place yeah yeah yeah i mean because so many great restaurants are like punishing to be inside of you know like this food here is so good but you have to go through this this this this and this the chef looks like this the chef looks like the

7:08Chris Black:music looks like this i only want hot chefs you know that i'm trying to go to not me i'm joking I want them fat and old. We don't know that. No strikers. I went to -

7:20Jason Stewart:Shout out to the French homie, the guy who's in France who's hot, listens to our podcast. I forgot his name. I know he's in Biarritz.

7:26Chris Black:Do you think it's fair? I don't think it's fair for a chef to be hot. You got to leave some for the rest of us. There's nothing that - I think women cannot resist that to a point where it's sickening.

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7:37Jason Stewart:It's like when somebody - you know when you are watching a movie and a guy takes his shirt off and the woman just starts laughing? it's like that you know what i mean just like well i think you know like a liz lemon kind of yeah i just don't think that well i think i think the re god punishes them because he makes all hot chefs are never that good you know what i mean that's true like you can get very good but you're never going to be the best if you're a hot chef well i think luckily for them that's

8:02Chris Black:fine i don't think that affects their bottom line at all and i would say it's better because i feel like it's almost it's like you have notoriety but you're not famous necessarily so like you can you get all the benefits really.

8:15Jason Stewart:Yeah. Eric Repair in 1991. Are you fucking kidding me?

8:19Chris Black:He was beating him off with a stick. He made Bourdain look like a pussy. There's no way. He was putting on a damn clinic. He could actually cook.

8:26Jason Stewart:Was his food the best in the world? He's a master. Yes. But he's never going to get there. And he knows it. But it doesn't matter because his tanned French dick is super wet.

8:38Chris Black:I did go to this. I did go to. Mike was like, all right, meet us for lunch. We're going to go to this soba place. I'm like, sick. I love soba.

8:46Jason Stewart:Hot, cold, fat, or thin, you'll take a soba, won't you?

8:50Chris Black:They're 40 minutes late because they've been an hour away shopping for fucking Patex or whatever they do. And I'm fucking -

8:57Jason Stewart:They're flipping a coin for an Audemars somewhere.

9:01Chris Black:So Mike, Julius, and Dylan show up. They show up with all these fucking bags. They've been copping all day. They've been hitting A-Press. They've been hitting Orly. They got all this stuff. so it's four white boys in this like silent beautiful like family run soba place and then they bring they bring out the soba and jason when i tell you this is a snack i mean it's michelin soba it's michelin recognized soba just to be clear i gotta tell you michelin soba downstairs now i had to yeah yeah brooklyn heights her name is michelin and his name is soba get it right so I eat this so but I even I drink the healing broth you know right down the gullet and then I got it the dashi I'm fucking where the hand rolls at bitch this ain't enough this ain't enough for a you went to appetizer only restaurant I wanted to ask you about something

9:55Jason Stewart:they're like well we also I can do a bowl of olives for you you went to Japanese stir crazy

10:00Chris Black:I went to Japanese stir crazy and they didn't have any they did have prawns actually they had single prawns and they told us to eat the whole thing which i'm not obviously i'm not going to do but but you're not a shell cruncher i'm not a tail

10:12Jason Stewart:cruncher either that's why you're always gonna be a little fucking hoe never crunch on the shell

10:15Chris Black:little broke bitch but there was a dish that i'd never had before that was fucking delicious and i don't understand it it was served alone which felt very crazy to me but it was basically just baked miso on a sort of like, I don't even know, like a little stand. It was like a little pancake of miso. A stand? It was almost like a mini cake stand is how I would describe it.

10:41Jason Stewart:Like a pedestal?

10:43Chris Black:Yeah, like a small pedestal with a small, I would say slightly larger than silver dollar sized pancake of baked miso.

10:50Jason Stewart:So it looked like a little macaron or something?

10:53Chris Black:No, it was flatter than that. It was flatter than that. It was literally like a pancake, or maybe even to really make an American hash brown. Like flat, flat. Okay.

11:03Jason Stewart:So I'm thinking like when you get caviar on blini, was it like that, like a little pancake like that, but it was just made out of miso?

11:09Chris Black:Yeah, but it was flatter and wider and like crispy.

11:12Jason Stewart:Oh. And it was - Oh, it was crispy.

11:14Chris Black:It was fucking delicious.

11:16Jason Stewart:So it was like a flat tostada shell that you would -

11:19Chris Black:Yeah. Some beans and cheese on that house? It was so good, but it was also like, this feels like it should be on top of something.

11:25Jason Stewart:Okay, it was super thin, and how crispy was it? Like Chicago? Not like crunch. It wasn't bar style? It wasn't wheat thin? No, no, it wasn't. I'm just wondering if he made like a miso tuile.

11:35Chris Black:No, it was not a tuile. It was more of just a crispy pancake. I mean, honestly, a nod to our Hanukkah celebrators, but it could have been in the latke zone, I would say.

11:47Jason Stewart:Okay, well, I mean, you said it was only made out of miso. Or was it made out of a pancake or a potato? No, I believe.

11:55Chris Black:No, I believe. I'm saying shape and texture. I'm not saying ingredients. Okay, okay. I do believe.

12:00Jason Stewart:You keep saying latke, and I didn't know if this was potato or Japanese sweet potato.

12:04Chris Black:I am sure. Let's go pay some bills. That it's pretty much just miso. And I was like, this is one of the best things I've had while I've been in Japan, but it doesn't, like, it feels like it should go on top of something. You know what I'm saying? Okay. So it's like somebody gave you a bowl of chips. You said, where's the guac or vice versa? Exactly. The chips are still great. I'll eat a fucking bowl of chips.

12:24Jason Stewart:They bring you out a bowl of mustard, and you're like, this is really good mustard. This is my favorite Dijon. If I could get a little sausage, that'd really hit things up. When you said a baked misa, I'm thinking two things. There's that restaurant in Mexico City, Pajol, I think, where they serve a thousand-day-old mole, where it's the perpetual mole stew, and they smear it on a plate, and you're supposed to lick it like a cat or something like that and talk about how complex the fucking flavors are. so there's that but then i also think baked miso i'm thinking nobu you know black cod miso salmon

12:58Chris Black:kind of thing you know what i mean i would have loved that of course but it was it was no it was really good it was just an interest it was just so interesting because i was like we ordered it and i'm like i don't you know i don't really know what this is but anyway we ordered half the menu i left and had to you know had to go buy out the 7-eleven to continue to have energy to walk around

13:16Jason Stewart:for the rest of the day but you know here we are it's weird because the um nouveau he's sober right

13:21Chris Black:Yeah, he doesn't drink. And I think that his friends that are with him, I think only one of them drinks, but no one drank when we were hanging. Okay.

13:29Jason Stewart:So I'm trying to figure out why you're unable to do it and they are when you're a high-level athlete. Everyone is sober, so they're also playing through the pain, right? So even if they all have the plantar fasciitis, if my dogs are barking, I go get some soba, I'm three Sapporo's deep, and pain go bye-bye. But for you guys, you got to white knuckle it, right?

13:53Chris Black:I think it's more that I just don't care quite as much.

13:55Jason Stewart:Oh, it doesn't take much to get you to stay in the hotel and look at Twitter?

13:59Chris Black:No, it doesn't. I mean, after being out for eight hours a day, and it's also like, you know, it's very spread out. If I'm taking the train, it's a 30 to 45 minutes minimum to get any. You know, it's not that. It's just tiring. And at the end of the day, I'm like, all right, well, it's 7 o 'clock, 8 o 'clock. I've already had my fill of Asahi 0.0 and sushi that I ordered on an iPad. I'm going to go to the sauna There's a pool and a sauna on the fucking 28th floor of this hotel with like an insane, it's insane I'd rather do that

14:30Jason Stewart:I wouldn't be exploring the villages either

14:31Chris Black:That's what I'm saying How many VisVim stores can one white boy go to? You know, that's the question I continue to ask myself as the days go on

14:41Jason Stewart:Well this is why I know that question has been burning a hole in your mind for years, keeping you up at night and you had to go visit Japan and answer the question the hard way. And now you know how many stores you can. And now, you know, you can close this chapter.

14:56Chris Black:I think I'll, I mean, look. In the Book of Black. I will definitely be back, but I don't, I get why people love it so much. I really do. Because it is, I think what is difficult as someone who travels pretty often and is down to do whatever. Pause. It is pretty difficult to go somewhere where you feel completely, it's completely different. You're completely out of your element and no one cares about you. No one speaks your language. No one panders to you. They don't give a fuck. That is nice and humbling. And I think we all, we all need a dose of that from time to time. Cause I'm usually going to places I like to go coincidentally are very easy for me.

15:34Chris Black:You know what I'm saying? It's not like I'm going to Tibet. Like it's, it's pretty, you know, I keep it pretty go. Going to London is pretty manageable. You know what I mean? Going to Stockholm is pretty manageable. So I think I need to, I think it was good for me to sort of summiting Everest. no no no no i was i was summiting the mount bell store but other than that

15:53Jason Stewart:other than that these are good you haven't been in an 11 and a half though they're just a little

15:59Chris Black:yeah i haven't but i wasn't really able to cop that much the sizing is an issue unless it's vintage so you know i'm i'm i've learned a lot of lessons this week i'll say what about that um dean and deluca magazine set this episode of how long gone is brought to you by ship station Jason when your company is growing fast at the speed of light order fulfillment can make or break your success ship stations intelligence driven platform brings order management rate shopping inventory and returns warehouse systems and comprehensive analytics all

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20:54Chris Black:yeah dude so i went to t site and they had i see the mac i mean the magazine selection there is fucking insane and it feels it like tea site that's what it's called dakinyama yeah it's like the it's like the biggest bookstore it's basically like if barnes and noble was really really good and had fucking eight floors or whatever you know it's like it's like a sprawling it's like a sprawling complex it's all new though it's not it's not like high bridge or komiyama it's so i go there and i'm like i can't bring any books back because i'm not one of these nerds who buys an extra suitcase i'm just i'm trying yeah i'm not i'm not doing all that i'm not checking a bag and and i i there was a food obviously the food section was was robust you know the cookbooks and etc but there was a food magazine section there was uh dean and deluca magazine that was beautifully done i have to say like to the point like like a little more sort of artisanal than than lucky peach let's say like the the design and like the paper the difference in paper stocks

21:51Jason Stewart:what year was this from did you already say that it's current i think it's current no i think it's

21:55Chris Black:current that's what that's the whole thing yeah they're putting it out because there's a million Dean DeLuca's in Japan. So I think it's just a current thing. But they had all 12 issues that seemed to exist. They had one through 12. And I was like, God, I want to buy one through 12. I feel like it's the first year or something. Well, pretty ladies all in a row. I didn't do any research. I'm assuming. But I was like, you know what? What am I going to do? Do I really want to deal with this so I can put them on my show? I don't know. But I was going to get you the Dean DeLuca cold case cookbook. but it was unfortunately uh all in japanese cold case cookbook so like all the little sides and like all their prepared foods it was all their prepared foods cute um yeah i just looked at um

22:38Jason Stewart:i'm googling it the other covers are you know new yorker level hand-drawn good photos pretty sick gotta say sick it's cool what a great last minute holiday gift isn't it chris i know yeah i love a last minute holiday gift for the for the japanophile in your family well

22:57Chris Black:don't worry dan frommer is already on his way here so i don't have to you know from dumb i ran

23:02Jason Stewart:into from dumb we were driving up the hill over to max our our beautiful agent over at brigade he had a holiday party after i dj'd the neiman marcus holiday party shout out to neiman shout out to

23:14Chris Black:mary k love you all you did a bang bang bang holiday picard dude you might as well wear a

23:18Jason Stewart:and i did the same exact bang bang one year ago as well the same exact day neiman marcus you know get a martini and a half and a cup of chili in me and then you know speed across town to and then uh you know pick out the leftover ham slices at max's house it was a real deja vu leftover ham slices the ham is delicious and it always goes first we all know that how was how did i get there what was i talking about you saw from her oh yeah yeah and as as As we were driving up, he was driving out with Sherman, who we're going to see in a couple days. It was like a puck dinner or something like that.

23:55Jason Stewart:A D-Lo puck dinner. And, yeah, that was good. And I went to another holiday party two nights ago, Brandon Creed, Charlie's manager, and many other people.

24:06Chris Black:That felt like a little more.

24:09Jason Stewart:It felt like a Coachella party.

24:10Chris Black:I think that went a little. I texted, well, I texted Kate. I texted Carolyn. I saw this Glendale College sweatshirt. and I was like, I'm going to buy this for Carolyn and I sent it to her and then she was like, oh, that is really nice and I looked it up and I did the conversion and it was$900. I was like, you know what? You're probably going to be fine without it. It was vintage. I mean, it was crazy. It was really good. It was really good. I guess my point was she was responding to me at a time that was a little late and I was like, oh, I know what they've been doing. Yes, yes.

24:42Jason Stewart:I would say the only one downside amongst all the you know the celebs you know the Kai Gerbers and the Carolyn Fos and their fur coats and the Rachel Senets and the Charlies all dressed up there was more than a few dudes wearing Marty Supreme jackets. Come on! The holiday kind of it wasn't black tie by any means but you know it's you know fancy nice house holiday party vibes everyone's dressed nicely.

25:10Chris Black:But in this situation is it possible that these gentlemen worked on the movie?

25:13Jason Stewart:100%. I would say over 100%.

25:16Chris Black:Does that make it worse or better? I can't tell.

25:19Jason Stewart:That is the real question. That is the real question because everyone knows at that party that you did work on that movie, so to wear it, it's a little...

25:28Chris Black:Yeah, this isn't your family Christmas party where you have to explain to them what it is.

25:33Jason Stewart:Adele's manager was there. He wasn't wearing the Adele tour hat.

25:39Chris Black:This is vintage Adele 2025 merch. This is from when we did Munich for 40 Nights. Pull it out for special occasions. We did 40 Nights in Munich. Freedom and wheat, brother. That's so funny. I don't think that, I think that the Marty Supreme merch is going to be, the way that that's going to flood Beacon's Closet when that shit, in six months, when that movie is, no one's thought about it ever again. But I, you know, speaking of Rachel, our boy Jordan Firstman's having a tough week. and I don't really know exactly what's going on.

26:12Jason Stewart:He's in a heated rivalry.

26:13Chris Black:Can you explain to me what he, I know there's the gay hockey show, but I feel like the gay hockey show took off since I've been in Tokyo and I haven't been able to grasp it fully because something's wrong with the time difference. Can you explain to me? It's a show where two guys are gay and they play hockey?

26:30Jason Stewart:Yes, and I think it is called heated rivalry. That was a joke. It is called heated rivalry. But yeah, I have not seen it. I think it's a show that was like, it's a Canadian show. It was on a network.

26:43Chris Black:Shout out to our Crave family. Crave is how you get HBO in Canada.

26:48Jason Stewart:Yeah, it was beasting on the underground at Crave, and then it got brought up to the big leagues, not to use a ringer analogy, but apparently it's just like a horny, over-the-top hockey, gay soap opera. many people have told me that we need to watch it and discuss it on the pod they want us to do it i'm good and i'm just you know i'm not sure when i'm gonna be able to slide this into the roster

27:18Chris Black:carolyn might be like okay this is too far i mean i'm sure it's it just feels like unnecessary uh

27:24Jason Stewart:for me to watch but watching this show for research purposes air quotes you know who am i

27:30Chris Black:yeah that i'm good but but it seems like it's really there's really a lot of blowback 95 on

27:36Jason Stewart:rotten tomatoes 8.6 on imdb i don't but also people say it's absolute slop shit but i think

27:43Chris Black:that's the i think that's the whole point i think it's both i think people are ironically giving it fucking tens on their little review sites can you believe that people i cannot believe when i think about letterboxd being a real thing i'm i'm truly blown away that like you have a job and and kids and responsibilities and when you have time off work you crack a fucking ipa and sit down at your fucking table and write a movie review that no one's gonna read like think about that yeah but

28:12Jason Stewart:also if you write the perfect movie review for the person that you want to have sex with and then

28:19Chris Black:they're like damn people who are sorry people who are people who are writing movie reviews on letterboxd aren't the ones having sex i don't think that's really no that's that i'm saying

28:27Jason Stewart:that it gives them a slight little chance there is a possibility that you could movie taste your

28:33Chris Black:way into some pussy or dick it's just it's just amazing though that writers don't get paid and then the people and then people are writing for free they also don't get paid it's just none of it makes everything about letterboxd confuses i just don't understand it because i guess it's like a social network really like everything else because you can i'm sure you can like follow your favorites and blah blah blah blah blah i think it's a way to prove if you if you

28:55Jason Stewart:are a cinema influencer or or hope to be one it's a way for you to prove you know how knowledgeable you are and then show other people your taste so they can come along with you like if you're a video game twitch streamer and i like this guy because he does overwatch i like this girl because she does this game then that's my favorite game you know so it's like sure it's letting other people know this is my flavor and this is my level of authority on the subject so that's why

29:21Chris Black:you sure it just it seems like a lot of effort i guess is what i'm saying that's why you should

29:25Jason Stewart:pull my tree no i mean of course a lot of effort but some people they have these deep thoughts to criticize and remark upon it's kind of like two guys on this podcast you know the it has an uncontrollable urge inside of them to let it spray and you know reader be damned reader be damned i

29:43Chris Black:I saw somebody asking Twitter, somebody please explain Twitch to me. I don't get it. What is streaming? I don't understand why I'd watch a guy sit in his room. And someone was like, it's just talk radio, bro. You just have it on. You don't need to pay. And I was like, talk radio really is a good comp for that, I feel like, which I had never put together myself.

30:06Jason Stewart:Yeah, you just have it on. And that's why sports and video games are killing it so much because you can really just kind of have that shit on and have people talking about it. And they're probably, I mean, I guess then there's the other people who are Twitch streaming the fucking neo-Nazis and stuff like that. That's bad, but.

30:24Chris Black:Look, I'm less, I think that I just feel like everybody treats it wrong because the stuff that got popular is so, what I'm saying, it's like a guy sitting in his room with 10 friends and they're playing video games and just talking to each other. But I feel like the actual idea of it is good. I just feel like what's popular is so bad that people are just like I don't know dude I don't watch this shit it's fucking Kai Sennett and fucking Drewski breaking chairs with Kevin Hart like I don't know I don't need to

30:52Jason Stewart:but if I was 12 I would probably be like this is better than my life so I'm just gonna watch this

30:57Chris Black:definitely yeah definitely yeah

30:59Jason Stewart:I think you just get hooked as a 12 year old

31:01Chris Black:Glorilla doesn't come in my room when I'm 12 it only comes in Kai's room it sucks alright so your you're ho ho ho Jason right now I don't know how you do this I don't have the I mean I would do it obviously if I was around you know it's fine

31:17Jason Stewart:but I just feel like you're talking about the holiday party of it all

31:19Chris Black:yeah you really I feel like you have a zest for holiday parties and you're not really a big Christmas guy necessarily I know you're forced to decorate your home but I think you're doing that a little bit under duress

31:31Jason Stewart:holiday partying it's something that I as you get older I really have to pay attention to because it really does affect my body you know my mind my lack of sleep and my work and like just if i go out you know four times a month and really push it and then i increase that to you know 10 times in in one month it just you really feel it so you kind of have to treat it like like a like timmy like an athlete you know what i mean so my down days i'm down like today yeah you know it's rest recovery mobility saunas getting lots of fluids you know a lot of soups eating good all that shit nose tape mouth tape booty tape titty tape sure you're all taped up he's taped he's taped the fuck up i'm tucked i'm taped try and clock me i wish you could um yeah so so when the tom cruise cake comes in the mail you know we're only having half a slice maybe a quarter of a slice who do who do you think sent you that do you know i know who sent it ian sent it to me that's funny

32:37Chris Black:what is it is and we're we're sure that's the one yes yes yes definitely that is the one and i did

32:43Jason Stewart:eat a slice of it yesterday is it good it's okay is it expensive it's 140 not including tax and tip and shipping oh okay well so it's probably close to two two hundo yeah i mean i guess that's like yeah i don't come into your frozen out of woodland hills but i think it's more it's it's

33:04Chris Black:like a status symbol obviously yeah totally i just didn't know if it was but you know as a as

33:08Jason Stewart:a gourmand and my my household has very specific and particular standards with with pastry and and baking so you know we're we're a tough critic but it was fine not our favorite not as good as the Erewhon coconut cake, which I'll use as the sort of double-double in-and-out benchmark that all other coconut cakes are judged upon.

33:30Chris Black:I don't want any coconut desserts. Get out of here. That's worse than fucking carrot cake.

33:35Jason Stewart:Carrot cake? I love carrot cake.

33:37Chris Black:No, disgusting. That's a vegetable.

33:38Jason Stewart:That's one of the only things about Erewhon that I really love is their cakes are carrot and coconut.

33:43Chris Black:The two worst possible cakes. They have other cake, I'm sure.

33:47Jason Stewart:Carrot cake is a thinking man's cake, Chris.

33:50Chris Black:Yeah, yeah. If you want raisins in your dessert, by all means,

33:53Jason Stewart:think on your own it's like somebody saying fugazi is better than the fucking boston symphony orchestra you know what i mean it's not even the same convo they are they they are 100 i mean

34:05Chris Black:boston yeah come on i mean i'm sure look i'm sure they're a great philharmonic over there but you

34:10Jason Stewart:know okay what's what's your favorite okay if to make the uh make the analogy better which

34:15Chris Black:symphony orchestra should i have used no i mean i think boston's fair because i don't know enough about symphony orchestras. I'm obviously joking, but I think that there are a lot of people who would agree with me. Maybe it's better to say I'd rather listen to Fugazi.

34:32Jason Stewart:Okay, a lot of people would say that McDonald's is better than Chez Panisse, too. You know what I mean? And those people can have those thoughts. A lot of people think that... What's the name of the singer girl that is like the adorkable one? What's her name?

34:47Chris Black:Oh, Audrey.

34:48Jason Stewart:Oh, Audrey Hobart. There's people who think Audrey Hobart is better than Lady Gaga or something.

34:53Chris Black:You know what I mean? I don't think anybody thinks. No one would. I think those fan bases would never say that about Lady Gaga. I think there's too much crossover. But I do understand.

35:01Jason Stewart:No way. Lady Gaga is for the girls and the gays and Audrey Hobart is for evil women.

35:05Chris Black:No, Audrey Hobart is definitely for the girls and the gays. Based on what I've seen from the videos from the tour, I will say. Look, all my gays, you are not allowed to listen to that, bro. They definitely. The smart ones do. But although Lady Gaga. Leave it to the basic. Lady Gaga is, I mean, that tour, it's crazy. She's been on tour for like 15 years. I don't understand. Shad went to the show. I'm like, bro, what is this? He's like, oh, it's the Mayhem tour.

35:26Jason Stewart:I'm like, how long can this go on? It started during COVID. Literally,

35:33Chris Black:literally. I'm just like, dude, how long can she tour for?

35:37Jason Stewart:Shadi, I owe you a text back. Sorry.

35:39Chris Black:Dude, what the fuck? All right, so Lily Allen played SNL last night.

35:45Jason Stewart:I'm going to watch it this evening.

35:47Chris Black:I watched all the clips this morning, but I got Josh O 'Connor. Tough putt. I feel bad for him. I feel like he did not do a good job.

35:54Jason Stewart:I watched him last night on the Knives Out.

35:57Chris Black:I've never seen him in anything, I realized, I don't think, besides Challengers. I've seen Challengers. Why are you watching Knives Out? Isn't that like a bad horror movie?

36:07Jason Stewart:No, no, no. It's like a whodunit kind of thing. There's been two of them. I mean, I would say half of it was good. The other half was stupid.

36:15Chris Black:but but it's what's his name right it's um what uh daniel craig oh it's that never mind i was thinking of something else no daniel craig didn't direct it though what's what's the cat i mean the

36:24Jason Stewart:cast is daniel craig yeah yeah andrew scott mila kunis jeremy renner thomas hayden church glenn close josh brolin josh o 'connor jorge you know jeffrey wright there's a lot of people in this

36:40Chris Black:motherfucker movie i'll make sure to catch that one um it's okay it's okay it's just a little

36:44Jason Stewart:nothing else on kind of thing i think people like it i think no no it's big it's big but but you

36:49Chris Black:said josh o 'connor i mean it's just like his snl chops were not chopping he's just too he's just he's one of those guys that i just love the way he looks in clothes and then when he talks he doesn't get to also be funny and then and then when he talks i'm like oh you're like a real dorky british like theater guy which is like great for acting but not the best not the best for SNL, I would say. But Lily... Right. So I think Lily is... She did the Madeline song and Dakota Johnson plays Madeline like the same way the album, you hear that voice, you hear Dakota does that on SNL.

37:29Jason Stewart:And this is sort of the rise of the role model. What if we had a new celebrity or the Sabrina Carpenter arrest me daddy?

37:36Chris Black:This is the brat dance. This is the apple dance. This is the...

37:41Jason Stewart:arrest me daddy every every pop star if you don't have this new feature in your production it's

37:47Chris Black:pretty crazy that it's actually working though i feel like it it like it seems so formulaic now but i see if if role models on tour i see every day who he brings out it is effective but by no choice of my own you know what i'm saying like i'm just on i'm just on the internet and i see it

38:04Jason Stewart:it's kind of crazy that it's worked so well yeah i mean it does work but i don't know at what cost I would say our good friend Lady Gaga over on the Mayhem Ball she doesn't need to do that shit

38:14Chris Black:I I don't think that Lady she is the show Lady Gaga yeah Lady Gaga I think is probably too

38:20Jason Stewart:like she can't have somebody else Beyonce don't need to do that shit Taylor Swift don't need to

38:25Chris Black:do that shit uh I think they maybe do or make them look like they have friends which could be

38:30Jason Stewart:helpful it seems difficult to do in every city all over the world and I feel like I don't I don't know if this is if it's going to be a trend that lasts forever i think it's going to be like the celebrity podcast where most of them do it for one tour and then you know when when the second season offer comes around maybe yeah it's going to be tough we're going to skip on that it's going

38:50Chris Black:to it's tough to get a list in tempe i mean that's definitely definitely true i mean luckily nobody nobody tours for real anymore they only go to like 12 major cities and hopefully they have a friend who's filming in that city, you know, is what it feels like to me. Maybe you're right, though. Maybe these things probably do only happen in major cities. That's fair. And we all hear about them, you know, because of that.

39:13Jason Stewart:Yeah, so was Lily good or...

39:16Chris Black:Yeah, I mean, she seemed nervous, honestly. She seemed, like, nervous. I think it's like this is one of those weird... I feel like this record is such an interesting thing to do live, especially on TV for the first... Like, I don't think the tour starts till later, so I think this is the first time she's done it. which is kind of crazy which is kind of crazy it feels like most people like do snl as sort of a

39:37Jason Stewart:victory lap yeah but she i'm sure has done it before right yeah she did back in the heyday yeah

39:42Chris Black:she didn't snl before for sure but i i just think it's i don't know man it feels like it feels even though it's been out for a while or whatever it's so confessional i don't know something about tv

39:52Jason Stewart:makes it feel even more difficult oh yeah for sure for sure and i'm sure they make it you know 20 times harder than it is when you're doing a show on your stage with your crew and your everything and everything is all perfect and you got to go into someone else's house she made a bedroom yeah lily did um snl in 2007 seven almost 20 years ago god that is almost that's crazy it's almost 20 years ago back when she was doing smile classic classic chain classic yeah classic go go ahead i saw the avalanches here in Tokyo Japanese ass thing to do bro damn yeah it was just I'd never

40:29Chris Black:a nightclub in Japan feels like a middle school dance somehow sort of like and every guy is just wearing some sort of black street wear like like black in color okay and a beanie and they're

40:42Jason Stewart:dancing with the homies they're not dancing with chicks it's like six dude it's like six dudes in

40:47Chris Black:the circle dude soup like bouncing because there was like some japanese like a band opened um before the avalanches played okay um but it was a very interesting it felt like a real i felt like i was really getting a view into a culture that was not my own were people getting turned up oh yeah everybody's drunk as fuck you know they're just not obviously oh really oh yeah people are yeah i mean the line for the bar i mean you know how it is everything's so organized that it like takes forever kind of you can't just like you can't just pull out your yen so efficient things take forever yeah you can't just pull out your yen and muscle your way to the front and wave it around in front of the bartender doesn't work doesn't work like the same way got a bunch of yen burning a hole in my pocket i got these yens burning a hole in my goddamn pocket on my yens but i'm glad i got to see i wish there i wish somebody was playing i wish like something i was really into was playing i think it'd be fun to see something here just because i because we went to the punk bar uh called beat and it's like the guy there is like the guy that owns it's like a I mean, it's basically just fake Max Fish, but the guy who owns it is like a promoter, like in the music business somehow.

41:48Chris Black:So you see all the posters on the wall and you're like, oh yeah, everybody plays here. Like every single person comes here on tour and they probably lose money, but they have to do it.

41:56Jason Stewart:Yeah, you have to, because it seems so fun. I remember the first time I DJed in Japan, you just, it's almost like what it feels like for bands from a very far away land to get to play in LA or New York for the first time. you know just you hear so much yeah about it and you have so much built up in your mind of what it's going to be like and it's it's never what you think it's going to be it's just impossible to predict that feeling but you can do it without losing money because people no no i mean yeah obviously it costs a shitload of money to do that but you know japanese people are also good at booking tours yeah they got that shit figured out they do have it figured out they do have figured out okay so you went to max fish but the fish was sushi grade did it feel authentic

42:41Chris Black:and punk rock or did it feel i mean you could you could smoke inside so it's like that that

42:47Jason Stewart:makes it feel authentic i think the cha-cha i think it's like it feels the bathrooms were

42:52Chris Black:cleaner that's a no no the bathrooms were not that is not a bathroom i'd want to od in let me just say that damn okay let me just say that but it was a it was a funny yeah it was just a funny like i was like why do i feel like i was like oh this is like if elmere and max fish met in japan you know which is a twisted thing but uh david geating was here too so he joined us which was a fun and this is cool it was a fun link at the at the bar with him okay um yeah i was when i dj'd

43:21Jason Stewart:the neiman marcus party before i went to max's carolyn was complimenting me she's like oh you look like you've lost a little weight you know this i was wearing a shirt that used to fit a little tight and it was a little looser and i was like okay thanks and then not not one hour later get in the car go to max's house scott sternberg gives me a hug and says are you getting fatter

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48:35Jason Stewart:i have i've got whiplash i've got confused we got body positivity and negativity spinning out

48:42Chris Black:of control i think that scott first of all loves to neg you and second of all i think carolyn knows your body better than he does which could work in your favor or against you in this situation yeah yeah good point good point you know what i mean but i look i'm sure you're looking snatched

48:57Jason Stewart:don't let these haters do this to you no no i'm i'm able to recover i'm not really that i'm not feeling sad about it but it was it's more just like very funny to get to get great and negative so quickly it kind of fucked welcome welcome to my life chief welcome to my life does

49:15Chris Black:that happen to you a lot every day are you kidding me you're you're a fucking idiot um did you see did you see this there's a new nas album produced by dj premiere and uh obviously it's for the dusty you know it's for the joe budden listener but the um a lot of the lyrics are about nas's investments and his crypto his his crypto status and it's just really really funny to hear a 55 year old man rapping about how rich he is from investing in tech companies over a primo beat i have to say it's it's it's it's the modern world we don't want okay i need to i'm looking

49:58Jason Stewart:this shit up right now it's crazy you know what that song was that i sent a quote on it's all of them oh get ready hold on hold on yes serial investors serial killer threats turn ether to ethereum y 'all wanna bet i got a crypto key it comes with a password i flipped that key the digital cash work.

50:21Chris Black:I can't think of anything cornier that shows your age than thinking you can... I mean, I guess I respect it on one side because it's like he's rapping about what he's doing. You know what I'm saying? He's not rapping about killing people or selling drugs because that's not what he's doing. But being like, I'm early on Waymo is just not... It's crazy. The whole thing...

50:45Jason Stewart:It's a big swing. Crazy. Like you just said, he has a line, no chainsaws, cocaine wars, no bloodstains. I'm from the block with the chain. This is the new blockchain. My portfolio is many things from quantum computing to biotech because it's life improving. Degradable plastic trash removing. And he calls himself the cryptocurrency Scarface. Dude, cut him off.

51:14Chris Black:That's it, bro. You got to go back to your fucking private equity office. This is not -

51:20Jason Stewart:It's really like, if you told me this is a new rap album that Mark Zuckerberg did or Elon Musk did, obviously you replaced the N-word with something different, but you would believe that this was written for an Elon rap album or something like that. That's how bad the lyrics are. No disrespect to you, Nos.

51:42Chris Black:oh I would say there's some disrespect sort of baked into that but I understand we we've talked

51:47Jason Stewart:about this before where you know at a certain point and it's the Jay-Z effect he should have learned from Jay-Z the person who did ether him in life unfortunately even though according to his investments Nas is doing quite well and probably is able to live a more fun enjoyable

52:03Chris Black:life he doesn't have to I would say that but you know but I know Nas also hangs out with Paulie sometimes so things maybe aren't going that well you know i don't know but i would i would say that

52:13Jason Stewart:means that means he's good in eddie hood he can go zip down over to la brea and second street get a sweet green and somebody be like oh hey can i get a photo you know so he's good at any hood yeah can i get a cortado please almond milk um extra hot jay-z can't even walk from the door to the helicopter without an umbrella and shades you know like he's not you know it's it's his life is and he has to deal with solange whooping his ass all the time keeping oh beyonce hates him blue hates him blue hates him all it's tough he's getting cucked by lebron he's got a re he's got to

52:47Chris Black:get a retwist all the time now it's shit is different but then uh but jay-z he would he

52:52Jason Stewart:used to rap about you know bitches and guns and drugs and money and fun stuff and partying and bullshitting and having fun and you know and then he started talking about 401k investments and you

53:04Chris Black:know and i have to hear one more jay-z line about basquets and so so nas is taking him one step

53:10Jason Stewart:further and going straight into blockchain raps i think that there's a you know part of me thinks

53:15Chris Black:that like if you're jay-z level and you act normal that people will treat you a little more normal does that make sense yeah yeah like i think a little bit of the i think a little bit of this the pomp and circumstance around celebrity and how they move around is a little bit like yeah you I know you're famous. I know you need a bodyguard. I don't know if you need four bodyguards. I don't know if you... You know what I mean? I don't know. It just seems like a little bit like they like it.

53:41Jason Stewart:I guess maybe Charlie Sheen feels like a good example of the opposite of that, where he can kind of... If you just show up. He can cruise around. People get some autographs, but he doesn't feel like he's going to be in danger of his life.

53:53Chris Black:I think the more security and armored cars and fucking body men you have, it sort of makes people want to test you. whereas if you show up in a fucking hat and sunglasses and get a coffee and keep it moving you might get i love your music but i don't know maybe i'm wrong i mean no there there's there's

54:12Jason Stewart:some basic human logic in there you know the biggest strongest person in the room you you go up to him and and challenge them to a fight as a way to exert your dominance and not be you know in the kill or be killed world of of the jungle and the concrete jungle i am um i'm really upset

54:31Chris Black:about my poor planning as far as travel goes because I'm going to New York for one day and then coming to LA from Japan which is a known place that is closer much closer to LA

54:47Jason Stewart:and there's no way that this can be adjusted or altered or anything like that

54:51Chris Black:it was just sort of like it was all planned you know whatever it's fine I'm just like thinking about it now and I'm like, wow, I'm going to be a fucking zombie when I show up.

55:01Jason Stewart:What day do you land in LA?

55:03Chris Black:Wednesday morning.

55:04Jason Stewart:Okay.

55:05Chris Black:So right now it's 7.53 a.m. on Monday.

55:09Jason Stewart:7.53 a.m. on Monday. Right now it's 2.53 p.m. on Sunday, the day before. I land at 9 p.m. New York time on Monday. So it's already Hanukkah where you are?

55:21Chris Black:It is. Thistles is doing a holiday party with High Snobody and Licky Lee, a Chris favorite, is playing. And I thought I was going to be able to make it, but I got my shit fucked up.

55:29Jason Stewart:She was at Creed's party two days ago. Damn. Team fly out, bro. Licky, you need that bag. Get on that plane, girl.

55:34Chris Black:Get her a little bag. She got mouths to feed. But yeah, I'm excited to come to LA, get some normalcy. I mean, can you believe it? A Christmas miracle. I'm having a backyard bowl. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Okay. I believe in Santa now, honestly.

55:50Jason Stewart:Tiny victories, Chris.

55:52Chris Black:Tiny victories. Tiny victories.

55:53Jason Stewart:Yeah, I don't think backyard bowls made the LA Times 101 best restaurant list this year that just came out uh with our old previous guest bill addison who just went uh he dropped his anonymity and he started going public and started making uh front-facing video content along with everyone else who works at a newspaper it seems right

56:17Chris Black:well i'm sure the the pressure from on high was uh unavoidable um to to do that but i don't know

56:23Jason Stewart:i mean i always wonder all the people that work at newspapers what the percentage of them is switching to TikTok video against their wishes and how many of them really want to do it.

56:36Chris Black:I think it depends on what you cover. I think for what he's covering, it's so... That industry has been fully flipped on its head by video. And some of them haven't. I think if you're an op-ed person, you're fine. You know what I mean? If you're writing fucking page one above the fold about politics, you're probably fine. But this kind of shit... But that's it.

56:58Jason Stewart:Everything else is sports, travel.

57:02Chris Black:But it's funny with sports because I feel like that's also like – I think of ESPN as the source for everything, which has always been video for lack of a better term. But I guess ESPN is also like podcast. They do everything. So it's like they have to cover it all. But, yeah, I mean, how was the list? I mean, I'm sure you disagree with all of it, but was there anything that stuck out to you? Let me see. I mean, 100 restaurants is like an unbelievable amount.

57:29Jason Stewart:There's so many of them that I have never been to. Yeah, I was remembering before Jonathan Gold passed, and he put, I think it was Vespertine down at 101. Kind of a diss, I guess, right? Definitely a diss. Oh, yeah. Panda Inn's on there at 101. A restaurant that I frequent a decent amount. Let's see. I'm going to go down to the top 10 because we don't need to know all of it. Yeah, I only care. about top 10. Henry's over at 57. Not bad, Henry's. There's a restaurant called Celine, but it's spelled differently. Okay. Number one, Mercado La Paloma. It's like a Mexican spot with grilled fish and things like that.

58:15Jason Stewart:I've never been there. Crazy that I got number one because I don't think it's an expensive spot. Cato at number two. That's good. Makes sense. Baru at number three, which is dope. Love to see it. We went there with Al and you had the vegetarian tasting menu and it was bomb, right?

58:33Chris Black:It was good. It was really good. Yeah, I forgot about that. It's a special.

58:37Jason Stewart:It's an artistic, interesting special meal. It's not one of those. You might have to get a slice of pizza after, but it's still really good.

58:43Chris Black:I didn't expect to. I didn't have high hopes and it was very good.

58:47Jason Stewart:Yeah, because you typically don't swim in the waters of Kodia. And your favorite restaurant at number four, Dunsmore.

58:53Chris Black:Well, can't win them all.

58:55Jason Stewart:listen it's not number one i ran into to buscemi at creed's party he said he just came from dunsmore i said oh sorry bro um hayato at number five japanese spot super expensive hurts really good never been uh expensive providence number six just got three michelin stars never been do want to go there as well even though i don't like three-star food very much Morihiro Japanese sushi spot that was in Atwater I'm actually going there next week for the first time KK wanted to do a little vacay and I said let's just go to expensive restaurants in town seemed to work out okay Antico Nuevo on the number 8 which is good I think if you live in Larchmont it's really good I like that place a lot I like that place a lot people complain about where it is

59:44Chris Black:but I'm like they have a valet I don't give a fuck I mean I just don't I don't know That doesn't really bother me. I'm not considering price when I'm considering location, if that makes sense. I'm considering, is it good or not?

59:55Jason Stewart:I mean, I am if it's dangerous to walk from the car to the door and I'm going to drop$498.

1:00:00Chris Black:But it's not. You sound like a fucking newscaster. It is not dangerous. It is not. Bro, you don't know shit.

1:00:08Jason Stewart:You're not in the fucking streets like me, bitch.

1:00:09Chris Black:Bro, you live in a suburb. You're the least dangerous guy I've ever met.

1:00:13Jason Stewart:And I live here because I had to learn the hard way what it's like out there on the streets. yeah i know you got i know you got robbed so many times you had to move that's life's hard

1:00:25Chris Black:i gotta be hard too i've been down there in the gutters bro i know i know i'm sorry i don't i

1:00:31Jason Stewart:don't mean to i'm not trying to g-check you look when you come to la after your little japanese trip and i gotta stop in manhattan first and get my fucking blah blah blah get pick up my dry cleaning then we'll come we'll come see where silver lake meets koreatown we'll go there at 915 for that little res the only one you can get and then we'll you know we'll let chiquita speak you think you're all fucking badass where you from bitch frog town get your ass

1:00:58Chris Black:rascals get your ass so trece get your ass come on so dangerous anyway at number nine restaurant

1:01:04Jason Stewart:key haven't been super expensive korean spot whatever i don't know an inject high at number 10 not for me and not getting 11 it's been there forever surprising azizama 12 very surprising it's good but 12 is crazy i've never heard of any of these restaurants the problem is i haven't heard of half of them either saline in santa monica how's it how's it spelled s-e-l-i-n-e if it's in santa monica it's expensive it's going to be like a lot of edible flowers okay That's where you're paying for the edible flowers. Destroyer at 14. I kind of fuck with that. I didn't know Destroyer. I didn't know it was still open.

1:01:41Jason Stewart:I would only go to Culver City for a check, but I wish them luck over at Destroyer and our friends over at Quarter Sheets 15.

1:01:50Chris Black:I want to go back. I need to go back.

1:01:52Jason Stewart:To round out the top 15. We're not going to get into it anymore.

1:01:54Chris Black:I need to get back to DeSheets. I'm a freak into Sheets when they put the pie down.

1:02:00Jason Stewart:Well, just let me know. I can get the resi. I can get the resi going. Don't worry.

1:02:04Chris Black:I don't know if I'm going to have time. Unfortunately, getting over there and parking over there, not to sound like an LA local, is hell on earth. But it is worth all of the painstaking parallel parking for that little pizza.

1:02:16Jason Stewart:Well, Chris, you can just come over to my house and we can get the black car. No problem.

1:02:21Chris Black:Yeah, I mean, I guess that's true. I don't mind. I love the control of driving, as you know, in LA specifically. I just can't. Of course. Taking Uber in LA is awful. I hate it. I really, really hate it.

1:02:33Jason Stewart:Sometimes you got to do it. It really depends on where you're going. If I'm going on Friday when I was doing the Bang Bang, went to go to Aaron Levine's show at Mohawk, which is on Sunset, right in the middle of Sunset Junction. You can't park there. Zero parking, number one, and then dinner after at L &E Oyster. Also, not the easiest place to park on a weekend night. Then up to a house in the hills. They did have valet, which is nice, but that's rare.

1:03:02Chris Black:So you took four Ubers on Friday night. Uh-huh. Oh, damn. Okay, bro. All right. Holiday season.

1:03:09Jason Stewart:Which is the cost of one Uber in Manhattan.

1:03:12Chris Black:Yeah, I mean, kind of true, honestly.

1:03:14Jason Stewart:And sometimes, you know, we don't know how or why it works, but sometimes the Uber Black costs$18 and the Uber Comfort costs$18 and the Uber X costs$18. You know, sometimes they got wheeling and dealing days.

1:03:28Chris Black:Nothing about Uber makes sense to me, really.

1:03:30Jason Stewart:sometimes the korean barbecue burrito erwan is 50 off we don't ask why erwan hitting you with the

1:03:37Chris Black:with the the plate they give you the price for the plate and then they hit you with the oh it's actually by weight and somehow it's 55 is is one of the greatest greatest scams ever made yeah no

1:03:47Jason Stewart:i mean it's kind of it's a reverse chipotle because i'm because they gotta you gotta trick them into giving you more food at chipotle for the amount of money and then at erwan you have to trick them into giving you less food so you don't have to get a fucking second mortgage out

1:04:02Chris Black:on your lunch you gotta you gotta tell them to stop and they look pissed when you don't want

1:04:05Jason Stewart:any more short ribs no if you're if you're hot enough if you're a hot enough chick you can tell them i want my main to just be a salad and then i want my sides to be the proteins you know what i

1:04:14Chris Black:mean and they'll do it i don't get that kind of treatment no you can't do that but typically

1:04:19Jason Stewart:you'll be like oh i'll get that plate and it's like we'll put a fucking a rack of lamb we'll do a rack of barbecue baby back ribs on the main and then your sides will be three pieces of arugula

1:04:32Chris Black:and that'll be 74 i mean look whatever you whatever you gotta do i can't i can't wait oh

1:04:38Jason Stewart:my goodness i can taste it now do we want to talk about paul thomas anderson filming geese like a

1:04:44Chris Black:fucking kubrick movie last week in new york i'm upset that i missed that show because it is good really good i think he did la last night and then he covered he covered one of my favorite this is lorelei songs which is very cool but yeah i mean i don't know i don't like cameron winter is it like he's the guy the solo album is unbelievable these shows i mean i saw a show similar to this in a much smaller venue whatever like three or four months ago and it's it's pretty unbelievable do i need paul thomas anderson and benny saffy there with their fucking loops on looking like you know like they're looking at diamonds i don't know well let's see what the results are you know let's see what the results are but i didn't realize i didn't know that he had the camera like up on his face

1:05:30Jason Stewart:like on stage yeah it was very it was looking very glazy it was looking very national geographic filming you know the winter mouse coming out for the first time after the snow has froze uh has

1:05:42Chris Black:melted i'm sure it'll look cool and i i think it's cool that cam faces i back to crowd is fire back to crowd while playing piano is is it's cool j spaceman j spaceman i'm only going to sit down levels of like i don't care like especially when you're young and hot it's really it's like he has

1:06:00Jason Stewart:a disfigurement it's like he's daniel johnston honestly i would get bored you know if i'm just sitting there on the piano by myself the whole time what am i looking at the curtain well he

1:06:07Chris Black:also he'll get up and look at some buddies in the crowd oh okay he'll just he'll just do a laugh

1:06:11Jason Stewart:around the laugh around the baby grand okay i did not see that on any of the tiktok so no but it's

1:06:16Chris Black:I mean, it's honestly, that record's special. Apparently, there's another one done that's coming. So that, I mean, I don't know, man. I think it's like -

1:06:23Jason Stewart:I mean, if this guy's, what, 23 years old or something? Like, he's got the energy. He's got the sauce. He doesn't seem to have a drug problem. Yeah. I just want him to take a couple weeks off for the holidays, but you're overworked.

1:06:37Chris Black:You had such a year. But that's the thing. It's like they didn't, I mean, Geese didn't do that many shows. It feels like that because we hear about him so much, but it's not that they did some world tour. They did a tour. They did a regular tour. Smaller than regular, I would say.

1:06:51Jason Stewart:Yeah. I mean, it could just be the perception of what we're seeing online, but I feel like him or Geese are playing every day forever.

1:06:59Chris Black:It's literally your, it's both of our algorithms and who we follow. A hundred percent. It's, I mean. You're right. That's what ruins everything for everyone. All right. I got to go to the gym and then kill some time before I take an hour and a half car ride to the airport to kill some time before I get on the fort. flight so pray for okay y 'all and i will see you in new york in a few days i mean sorry in los

1:07:24Jason Stewart:angeles in a few days we're going to be doing a cool fun project that we'll tell you more about later and then friday december 19th homage brewery here in los angeles in chinatown i will be djing 11 p.m till 2 i believe it is open to all and free and everything but come early in case there's a line there was last time um and yeah that's all good luck on your flight chris get your

1:07:52Chris Black:compression socks from the muji store all ready to go don't worry my my ricari my ricari over knee uh compression socks are in the mail it's a little holiday gift to myself so okay all right how long gone howlonggone.com is the website thank you for listening and we will uh talk to you next week

1:08:10Jason Stewart:Bye-bye.

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From the publisher

One-on-one episode today, Chris was in Japan, and Jason is home in Glendale. We chat about a velcro sleeveless acupuncture shirt, eating the shell of shrimp, baked miso on a pedestal, TJ went to a few holiday parties, writers pivoting to video, Lily Allen on SNL, and the trend of bringing celebrities on stage each show, compliment whiplash, Nas is rapping about the blockchain and biotech investments, we run down some of the LA Times best 101 restaurant list, when the Uber Black costs the same as comfort, and PTA filmed the Cameron Winter Carnegie Hall performance like a Kubrick film.

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