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9:06Jason Stewart:really great actually i agree i agree well you know hopefully he ends up having a great awesome wonderful career it's so weird how everyone in my life it's so divisive he really doesn't have any people that are like cool with him it's either it's either obsessed or i cannot stand him well

9:25Chris Black:that's that's hey man i can relate so i i know i think that's how it is for a lot of people these days because we live in a we still live in a classic or trash society we do we do but i mean

9:37Jason Stewart:i don't know anyone else on that other than uh marcelo hernandez who just does you know isn't it funny if i talk like my uncle and that's that's the only shtick other than him everyone is just kind of like yeah they're pretty good no that's funny that one's not so funny whatever but with bowen like just ran you know full adult liberal minded people are just like

9:58Chris Black:i fucking hate him i mean that's but that's power that's a better place to be than oh i don't know whatever it's fine it's true i'd rather be i'd rather be reviled and loved than middling yeah i guess maybe what can bowen do to become cool oh nothing that's not his game i mean that's the thing that's not but that's just not his game he will be successful don't i don't know if he'll be a movie star but I think he'll be successful but I don't think it's because he'll be liked that's not what the game he's playing

10:25Jason Stewart:who's the little the small gay boy guy that is best friends with all the models Jake Shane right I think it'll be kind of like that where he like nobody thinks he's cool but it'll be like he'll have his own little like world and harem that he's built up

10:43Chris Black:yeah you make a lot of money I mean I saw a video of Jake Shane at a University of Texas football game with Glenn Powell. And I was like, bro, this is going, this is some wild stuff here. Doing what? How the fuck are you guys, are you setting Glenn Powell up with your friends or are you and Glenn Powell dating? What's going on here?

11:01Jason Stewart:Jake is the new Epstein. He gets in close. He takes his photos. I saw somebody say Epstein was like the cobra snake of like international arms dealers or whatever. Hey, just a quick one over here. Yeah, so good. So cute. Jake, Jake, Jake, over here, over here. But with Epstein down and out for the count, allegedly, we need new people that can gain access to these high-level folks to compromise them so we can use all of these people. We got to go hang out with cis male movie stars at the Hook 'em Horns game and get some tea. And then that way, Netflix can control what that person does or else they'll release the photos.

11:46Chris Black:I did find out Jake Shane's parents are someone. They're like Hollywood. He didn't come out of the blue is what I'm saying. He didn't get it out the mud. He's going into the family business.

11:59Jason Stewart:Not like big boy in Kansas City. No, Caleb is getting out of the mud.

12:05Chris Black:Caleb's getting out of the mud. Caleb's getting it out the mud. You can feel that. That's why it's so funny.

12:09Jason Stewart:Yeah, we need all of our – At what point will non-mud getters stop being tolerated in society? Unfortunately, I love the children of celebrities. I know that you are a Nepo head, and I know that there are a lot of people out there who are either indifferent about it or cool with it. But I think every year over year, our ire for the Nepos is increasing.

12:38Chris Black:But I don't see, I really don't. in an instance where it's someone who is uh bad at what they do and they keep getting opportunities that's one thing like brawny james yeah like but overall i think if somebody's good at something like who cares i don't give a fuck where they came from like that doesn't matter to me like i don't care if it was hard or easy if you're good at it you're good at it yeah well you don't care but

13:02Jason Stewart:most people whose lives are hell do care because they need this hell don't get it twisted i hate every second of being on this earth but i still yeah but you're not a you're not a blamer no i just think yeah no i'm not i don't i don't think you can be like you're you're saying my life is hell and stupid and i that's because this is the house that i built exactly the house that black

13:22Chris Black:built i got it out the mud building my own house and it's unfortunately on an uneven on an onion

13:28Jason Stewart:some village people they they build their huts out of mud and some people you build yours It's called Dung Feces. So not to go Trent Reznor, but you're an empire of dirt. Is that what he says? He might.

13:56Jason Stewart:On the Hurt song? Oh, that's a classic. That's what you did. You built your empire on shit. You hate everything. your life sucks and that's because of you but a lot of other people out there they're like you know like it happens once a week there's a new person who's like i am such a good actor

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19:08Chris Black:Sick band name. They're honestly pretty good but they went on some crazy rant like comparing Epstein comparing geese to Epstein like about Spotify it's just like dude like geese went yes they went to private schools in Brooklyn I don't they're not like they're you know they're not I don't know man people just need to understand there's levels to this shit like it's not I don't think their career in music is is because their parents made money in completely different careers I just don't really think that's how it works there's always going to be people that get a

19:39Jason Stewart:little you know boost on the starting line fat white family of course but i just mean i just

19:45Chris Black:mean that if you if that bothers you that much then you like if you if you work at the post office and you're a great singer and you think the reason that you're not famous for that is because your spot's getting taken by people's children you gotta that's just that's just not that just

20:03Jason Stewart:seems like a crazy way to go through life is all i'm saying yeah but you know it's it's easier to do anything in the world but admit to yourself in the mirror that you are not as good as you need to be at what your dream on this earth is every day i wake up in the mirror and i look at myself

20:22Chris Black:and i i know i can't play guitar and i still can't play guitar and it it's just that i have to live with that and that's i'm fine with it i've gotten through it and you can too you have

20:31Jason Stewart:gotten through it i have also but so many people you know because the problem is it's like the equation like i've done this this and this my executive coach that i paid 700 to told me you know luck is a combination of hard work and talent you know like whatever i mean like i work i work at gamestop and all i do is work i go home and i work on my beats I'm working so hard and for whatever reason I am not metro booming or whatever it is. You know what I mean?

21:04Chris Black:Look, life, we all get dealt different hands, you know? And that's just what it's got to be.

21:09Jason Stewart:Some of us don't even get hands. Okay? Think of it that way.

21:13Chris Black:Hey, you know who can't make beats? Guys without hands. So consider yourself lucky.

21:18Jason Stewart:Yeah, all the people out there who their entire life is ruined and destroyed because people whose parents are rich or talented or interesting had kids and those people are doing stuff that you're not go look at handicapped people go look at wheelchair motherfuckers blind motherfuckers missing a limb whatever you know somebody's always

21:37Chris Black:got way worse than you look at ti's head bro you know what i mean i just got a trailer for ti's new comedy special and i watched the entire trailer and there wasn't a single joke in it it was amazing it was like him saying so it's like joe rogan stand up it was like him saying stuff really animated like really like loud and annoying but it was none of it was funny it was no punch lines and then it would cut to the audience and show people laughing but you could tell those two things weren't connected it was it was really it's really amazing like like a will

22:09Jason Stewart:smith video when the crowd dancing is not dancing at his concert he's going by his street name he's going by his legal name though for the what is his legal name something harris is it tip harris

22:19Chris Black:yeah but i think it's i think oh clifford joseph harris jr no then he's probably then i think it's tip harris it's not yeah i think that's he changed his name from tip to ti going to clifford clifford harris does sound more like a comedian than than tip harris so tip was his name and then

22:38Jason Stewart:when he got signed and started like making music the he was he got signed to our arista and q-tip was on there so there was confusion at the label so he moved it to ti instead of tip oh i thought

22:50Chris Black:it was because he was like yo i ain't calling myself tip pause that's not we ain't i think for

22:55Jason Stewart:for a childhood nickname tip is a good name i like it i bet the label was a little bum when they made

23:00Chris Black:him change his name and they looked at the record sales year year over year during during his reign

23:06Jason Stewart:of terror tip did what he needed to do when he needed to do it he got in he got out you know he bagged him the queen of hip-hop Tiny Harris. Well, they also got...

23:15Chris Black:They settled. They did that settlement and got like... She just got like $200 million or something in some insane settlement. Like they never... The rich get richer.

23:25Jason Stewart:I just love that somebody's name is Tiny Harris. That's what he calls his little unit. You're about to meet Tiny Harris. And ain't nothing Tiny about Tiny.

23:35Chris Black:Tiny's the enforcer. Tiny's the one you don't want to F with. You do not want to... T.I. I'll flick his ear. I don't give a fuck. Tiny, it's

23:41Jason Stewart:like Solange and Jay-Z in the elevator. Tiny whoop the shit out of old Tip. Oh, yeah. Right?

23:49Chris Black:Tip is the fact that he hides his bruises under his Atlanta fitted is not lost on me. That is not lost on me. She whoop on me. Jake Paul style. I didn't ban Jake Paul. I don't want to be like every other podcast with two guys and talk about boxing. We have to, bro. He got his jaw broken two places.

24:07Jason Stewart:Okay. This is obviously a psyop, right? You know what I mean? because everyone is saying, Jake Paul, you know, you can't just buy every fight. Yeah, you can.

24:17Chris Black:I'd get my jaw broke in two places for$80 million and so would you. And if you wouldn't do that, you're stupid.

24:22Jason Stewart:I think he's treating it like wrestling or whatever, like this is all theater. So he knows that he has to take a fall every once in a while because nobody – at a certain point, people are going to stop tuning in and buying tickets and being interested in a guy who just pays people to lose to him. It's no fun. So he does need to himself lose every once in a while. And he knows he's getting so many dope bonus points for being truly injured and breaking his jaw and having surgery.

24:50Chris Black:I mean, being able to post the nothing's cooler than the hospital bed selfie. I hope to one day be able to do that myself.

24:56Jason Stewart:Yeah. What kind of injury do you want to be?

24:59Chris Black:Nothing super critical. Maybe just some dental stuff or something. You know, I don't want my life to be on the line. Veneers. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, something light. Nothing too crazy.

25:09Jason Stewart:no heart problems or anything okay no harm yeah so i was speaking of joe budden i was actually looking at his his episode count he's he's at episode 888 and how long gone is that episode 886 today so that means you know i'm thinking like those nasa tables where it shows when this planet is going to cross over to this planet i think there's we are in the next month we could have more episodes than the Joe Budden podcast.

25:41Chris Black:And that's the only number I would like to compare to How Long Gone and the Joe Budden podcast.

25:47Jason Stewart:All the only stats. The only stats that we're looking at.

25:50Chris Black:I'm not looking at bank account. I'm not looking at viewer count. I'm not. No, I'm good. Just sheer amount of output. Yeah, I'm not worried about that. Yeah, I was listening to them today and they really... Have you noticed that when you listen to that show that they really think everything's a little bit of a psyop? They think everything is like well they they push the button and then look what happens and it's i think it's a little bit like it's it's one of the dumber parts about that show that i kind of like is that they think everything is like somebody pulling strings from on well and and that things don't just happen

26:23Jason Stewart:psyop well i mean because psyop explanation is a good jumping off point to funny interesting conversational moments it's not that's not what they're doing though they believe it it's different

26:35Chris Black:I don't think it's because it can be anything. Anything.

26:39Jason Stewart:It's even better if they believe it because then you get some truly engaged and spirited discourse. What's his name thinks the earth is flat. One of them thinks the earth is flat. Nobody wants to tune in to listen to seven guys wearing kids' super hoodies and being like, hey, man, the earth is flat. And everyone's like, no, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. Okay, let's go pay some bills. You know what I mean? Or it's like, hey, this is all conspiracy theories, psyops, this and this. That's what, even if you disagree with it, it's still interesting to listen to people.

27:14Jason Stewart:People listen to How Long Gone because you and I, we can argue and disagree about everything. And that makes for entertaining convo.

27:22Chris Black:Thinking everything is a conspiracy theory feels very low IQ to me. But that is also what they're trying to do over there.

27:29Jason Stewart:I would say, to me, I'll push back on that. it feels inquisitive it feels curious i feel it's it's a sign of high iq i do you know what i mean yeah sure i mean yeah it means that i'm not just going to give up and be lazy and say oh that just happened or that's probably just a thing or whatever i'm not gonna look i don't believe the wool over my own i don't believe we landed on the moon i'm just saying i don't question

27:51Chris Black:everything bro i don't think the earth is flat that's all i'm gonna say okay earth not flat but

27:56Jason Stewart:you think moon landing for sure that was it feels it feels manufactured it feels manufactured yeah it does i think trump needs you know trump is doing whatever he can to get us off the scent of the epstein files unless it's a democrat in the photo then it's fine but are you talking about

28:12Chris Black:the are you talking about the picture of of known known state smasher gnome chomsky on the plane with Epstein? We got the chomp.

28:21Jason Stewart:We got chomps. We got Bubba. There's a lot of Bill Clinton photos.

28:29Chris Black:The picture of Bubba in the hot tub. Bubba's in the tub. Where he looks like he's getting topped off, but he's not. Because it's either already happened or about to happen. He could have an underwater

28:41Jason Stewart:aquatic... Give me a little piece of underwater. He got some mermaid head. Who knows? This is how... This story goes all the way. up to the top follow the money you think mermaids are cheap they got one i don't the pictures are pretty amazing and unfortunately sorry before you can move on i was saying we need to have um trump was saying like i'm going to release the upscene files i'm going to release the jfk assassination files ufo stuff moon landing stuff he was promising all that if you have like five different classified documents that you promise to release so people would vote for you and you You have everyone is pressuring you to do the Epstein one because he's in several hundred of these images to satisfy them.

29:27Jason Stewart:Get them off the scent. Release the moon landing stuff. Release the UFO stuff. Release the JFK stuff. Like just throw us a bone or else we're never going to leave him alone about this.

29:37Chris Black:No, I agree. I mean, he's never going to be left alone. it's also like apparently from what i've read and seen there's enough photos where you can just you can be peter you can meter these out for years oh yeah you can do a drop every month oh i think the u.s government i think to kind of get rid of some of our debt they should maybe put the epstein photos on patreon something i've been something i've been thinking about is if what if donald trump launched a sub stack and it was a subscription subscription base to get access to the epstein photos that would do more numbers than ryan lizza that would be the biggest that would be the highest paid and i know the subsec people wouldn't love that but i think that behind closed doors everybody

30:17Jason Stewart:would be dapping up yeah that would really stimulate our economy it would get us out of

30:23Chris Black:our trillions and trillions of debt probably right like you really want to use these paywalls for good like let's let's see something let's really do something because if i want to see build the wall if i want to see a 75 year old white guy getting topped off by someone who's been trafficked you You know,$10 a month is pretty, that's cheap, really.

30:38Jason Stewart:Yeah, was One Night in Paris free? Uh-uh-uh. Was Ray J and Kim K? That's going to cost$29.99, and millions of dollars were made on that.

30:49Chris Black:Y 'all are paying$100 to see Jake Paul get his jaw broke. Imagine what you would pay to see just the most powerful people in the world doing bad stuff.

30:57Jason Stewart:Just to see Bill Gates with all those 11-year-olds unblurred, you know? Remove the redactation.

31:04Chris Black:You know what's really interesting about all this stuff is there's no drugs. And I find that to be – so you're just hanging – you never see alcohol or drugs really in any of this stuff, which is so interesting to me.

31:18Jason Stewart:Yeah.

31:18Chris Black:So in your mind, you're like, what kind of freak off is this? Well, I'm saying if you're doing something that bad, which they are, you should be trying to forget that you're doing that.

31:27Jason Stewart:You would think that if I'm Bill Clinton and I'm in the jacuzzi, there'd be a spent Heineken bottle nearby at the very least. My ties are coming out. Guilon made some white Russians, whatever it might be. No, that's what they call. That's their code word for trafficking. Guilon's like, I made white Russians. This is Svetlana.

31:54Chris Black:I just don't, but I'm serious. I just like, wow, this is because, because, you know, Trump famously doesn't drink or do drugs. And I'm like, wow, this is so interesting that these people are able to do all this awful stuff completely sober, or at least at least to our knowledge.

32:07Jason Stewart:So, well, you know, the reptile people are able to kill because they're cold blooded. It's just inside of them. They do not need to have some poppers or some to see or, you know, a couple of Molly Molly bumps. they're just like hey i'm too busy being a powerful wealthy person you know doing some euthanasia and some genocides of certain nationalities and things like that i do not have time to have a hangover i mean you know what i mean yeah i mean i i think that the one thing and also those the the people that are the most fucked up is like the opposite of the weekend you want to be high for this like i need to be sober for this i need to remember all this i need to have some great digital photos of this.

32:53Jason Stewart:And that's what gets me off, not doing a bump and having an espresso martini. That's true.

32:59Chris Black:That's true. But as I clicked through some of those photos, I'm like, wow, there's not even, like you said, there's not even a beer bottle. Like it's just, and on a private plane, I mean, the beer's free for Christ's sake. You know what I mean? Take one. The guy can probably afford it, right? Yeah, that's, I mean, apparently. I mean, because they also posted that like document showing his like net all the prop like the net worth like all the accounts like the properties and shit and it was i tell you what that island's worth a lot of money yeah i didn't know i hadn't really priced out an island before but i think if i'm if i'm not mistaken it was 66 million yeah

33:34Jason Stewart:and obviously some islands more expensive than others i can get you into a starter island it's not going to be in as much of a desirable neighborhood you're more at a point where

33:43Chris Black:maybe a timeshare island would be best for you so you get two weeks a year you can pick those now you know summer fills up so just kind of consider that when you're making your choices oh honey

33:51Jason Stewart:there's nothing for summer yeah you understand july 4th weekend you're crazy no july 4th weekend is out of the question yeah i mean you can you can get cheaper islands for sure um but it's not i think but he was because um epstein's island i was in like a hot spot you know it was in right

34:07Chris Black:on the gulf of america right yeah i think it yes i think based on location alone you're going to pay a little bit you know it's like any other high-end zip code you know location location

34:16Jason Stewart:location you want to get the worst island on the nicest cluster as they always say no no i don't mind if the room's small as long as it's in the nicest hotel i'm happy yeah island ownership is one of those things where do we trust anyone that has their own island no no if

34:36Chris Black:you have your own island i i you you're doing something and also just like having you know like

34:40Jason Stewart:for the person that like i bought the one house in the palisades that's still standing no neighbors but not in a fun you know Kobe Bryant who the neighbors kind of way it's more in a no neighbors because there's just nothing around it seems if I lived on my own private island I would be scared all the time no I don't every night you are susceptible to penetration on all of your shores from and it's just you and your security guard who's you know jacking off not

35:09Chris Black:Not penetration. Not penetration.

35:11Jason Stewart:You know, I'm in the middle of the mother freaking ocean out there on this private. And, you know, who knows what's out there? Who knows what evil lurks?

35:20Chris Black:I mean, beyond animals and opossums, there's also, you know. Yeah, and then something bad happens.

35:26Jason Stewart:What are you going to call the cops on your private island?

35:29Chris Black:You probably have to have your own police force. Yeah. And if you're Epstein, you don't want police anywhere near you. Well, I get bit by a rattler.

35:37Jason Stewart:my private snake bites me and then what i gotta get okay well the next flight to cuba is taken off tomorrow at four i got 17 minutes to live you know that's true i i think that that's the

35:49Chris Black:there are a lot of downsides to island ownership and we're not we're not just talking about taxes you know there's a lot of kind of day in day out problems with island ownership the maintenance but i love that diana ross is speaking of wi-fi i love that diana ross is caught up in this like guys dana ross you know she just went like that's the thing when you got this much money you hang out with celebrities because that's how it goes like not all of them were were diddling like you

36:13Jason Stewart:come on like let's let's like think logically here no i agree i mean definitely not michael jackson he has no interest in that kind of stuff but michael jackson it makes you wonder i mean you know unfortunately your boy mick jagger he was posted up there and i was watching uh the Chappelle special last night and he was talking about when he invited Mick Jagger to go perform at his club in Ohio and he was asking Dave like, you know, they got hoes in Ohio though? Yeah. You know, like that kind of thing.

36:45Chris Black:See, well, we're going to criminalize him for that like every other person Dave Chappelle has asked.

36:49Jason Stewart:So all that is to say, Mick, you know, a bit of a known poon hound, but in a lovable way because he was also, you know, the sexiest man alive for many decades and he just has that swag but i don't know man it's it seems like those photos of of mick he's like on the borderline i don't think he's interested in in sleeping with children but i don't know when i look at the chris tucker how much time he was spending on there the the

37:19Chris Black:tucker of it all is a little strange for one for once the guy named tucker's in the wrong and it's It's nice to see. Yeah, he looks too happy. Everybody else looks like, yeah, I'd rather... This picture of Bill Clinton, the vibe is... I wish you didn't take this. Or the Michael Jackson. I wish you didn't do this. Chris Tucker's cheesy.

37:38Jason Stewart:He's like, yeah, I bet you did. I'm taking these for a very specific reason. But when you see the MJ or the Diana Ross or the Mick Jagger, you're like, they got invited to one or two dinners. They're hanging out. It's a whole thing. David Blaine's going to do some magic. It'll be fun, whatever. But you got the feeling that old Tuck was a confidant, a consiglier.

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42:52Chris Black:Whereas I think some of these people were just simply guests from time to time when a rich guy called them and said, I'll send the plane. The reality is, I don't care who you are. If somebody tells you we're having a party, I'm going to send the plane, I'm going to say 9 out of 10 people are saying yes.

43:08Jason Stewart:Yeah, but I want to know what Chris Tucker brings to the table. Did he just happen to make Epstein laugh so much? Is it just that? Because he's like, okay, we're bringing Bill Gates or whatever. These huge names, it makes sense why they're there. You want to talk about scaring the hose, Jason?

43:26Chris Black:Bill Gates? You got to have one guy that's actually good looking and funny to keep everybody fucking spirits up.

43:33Jason Stewart:Okay, so you're saying Chris Tucker, everyone loves him. He's funny. He's joking. He's not like a pervy guy. He's just like, everyone loves him, and he was probably such a delight to be around.

43:45Chris Black:He's also reasonably good-looking, where people would want to have sex with him.

43:49Jason Stewart:Bill Gates, you got to pay. Bill Gates is not a Riz master. He's not charismatic AF.

43:54Chris Black:Bill Clinton, on the other hand, I think he invented Riz from everything I've been told. You would think I invented Riz? Yeah, of course. So I think he's fine. Some people need help more than others. Yes, of course. And I think that, obviously, money and threatening works pretty well. but charisma still is one of our greatest virtues when it comes to sleeping with the opposite sex. I mean, it is truly the number one. Or same sex. I don't know what they were doing out there. Of course.

44:21Jason Stewart:Yeah, his mind. That's what they were thinking. Chris Tucker.

44:25Chris Black:It's so funny. It's just so funny that he's there. So you watched the Dave Chappelle. I didn't know you hated yourself that much. I think you might like this one, Chris.

44:34Jason Stewart:I think you might like this one.

44:35Chris Black:The last thing I want to hear is Dave Chappelle talking about fucking Charlie Kirk. I just don't but I'll watch it sure we're about to have a lot of free time

44:43Jason Stewart:yeah we're gonna have a week off

44:45Chris Black:what channel what network is it on?

44:48Jason Stewart:it's on Netflix it was a surprise thing after the Jake Paul fight like when the fight was over Chappelle went on live and said surprise bitch new special dropping right now

44:59Chris Black:it's like when CBS drops a bad sitcom right after the Super Bowl trying to get us to tune in

45:06Jason Stewart:Exactly, but except this is the exact thing that people want to watch after that. You've been watching a bunch of people beat each other up. You're faded. You got cut waters in you, and then boom, out of nowhere, Chappelle's going to start talking about Charlie Kirk. Let's do it. You know what I mean?

45:25Chris Black:That's true. No, no, from a business standpoint, it's brilliant.

45:28Jason Stewart:Versus like, all right, that was another stupid, bad Super Bowl blowout, boring as hell, and now an all-new episode of Chicago Fire.

45:38Chris Black:Oh, you thought Shelton wasn't coming back? You're wrong, bitch. Get ready.

45:43Jason Stewart:And now Bari Weiss is going to interview Alison Roman.

45:47Chris Black:We're going to put Bari Weiss. Bari Weiss is going to do stand-up, actually, for a full hour after the Super Bowl. She's been kind of aiming for this for years. We're finally getting her. ASAP Weiss. I watched the Counting Crows documentary on the plane yesterday coming back from L.A. and um obviously i loved it for for many reasons but um there's a huge part of the storyline where like after august and everything after after you know basically after mr jones was this like giant hit and he like can't like he's got people like camping outside of his house type shit right and johnny depp and the other guy the co-owner of viper room call him and they're like how are you and he's like not good and then he basically says they put him on hold and they're like all right we got you a suite at the hotel the flight leaves at 7 p.m come to la and we'll like we'll take care of you and he started so he goes for kate moss's 21st birthday party at viper room which is maybe the the thing i've wanted to do the most in my entire life and then and then he he just he's there so much that he starts bartending because it takes his mind off of everything and he becomes sort of like a full-time bartender at the viper room in its absolute heyday yeah you know you're down bad when bartending saves you i just but he kept and he gave so basically the woman who ran the club who was also the bartender was like yeah so i just got to party with my friends and he would just give me all the money because he didn't need the money i was like that is a dream scenario for a bartender.

47:15Jason Stewart:I mean, yeah, it is great and I think it's nice when we can hire these celebrities out to do some of that work, take our take the load off of our shoulders but the thing that stuck out to me the most during that during that time was everyone was talking, everyone was mentioning that era which is what, like early 90s and they're like, this was the last time where real fun and good stuff happened yes it was right before digital photos social media and all that stuff it was it was the last moment before everything got ruined and they well there's like where you could you could have a real clubhouse in the middle of like on the middle of the sunset strip tourists everywhere clubs everywhere bars restaurants all this stuff and you got one spot where there's a little upstairs room and you truly are only allowed in there if you're on the inside.

48:14Jason Stewart:And you could be a random bro. You could be a gay guy who's taking photos. You could be a celebrity, Mick Jagger, whatever it is. And you're in that room and you can do whatever you want. And that's it. And that doesn't exist anymore.

48:28Chris Black:There's one guy who took a lot of pictures. He was like, yeah, basically, I took all these pictures of that time because I knew that. I knew basically if I don't do this, no one will. We won't have these moments or whatever.

48:41Jason Stewart:That's why I podcast. If I don't do it, who will? Yeah.

48:46Chris Black:I wish that was the case. Turns out several million will. It turns out everybody you've ever met will happily.

48:51Jason Stewart:But I won't like it as much.

48:53Chris Black:But it was good. I mean, if you like Counting Crows, it's pretty good. I think that the - Even if you don't, it's good. It's a little too ringery. It's a little too like, well, in the 1990s. All these things, but the way that they use...

49:06Jason Stewart:A ringer motherfucker loved to see the 90s coming.

49:09Chris Black:But it looks good. They actually did a good job. Usually these things have stupid animations or something for interstitials. This just had sort of wide view LA sunsets and shit. It was just kind of nice instead of trying to make it... Remember that Kurt Cobain documentary that came out and had all the fucking illustrations? It's just like, dude, this is for children. Don't do this. This is stupid.

49:31Jason Stewart:oh yeah i forgot you hate a cartoon stop just stop it's so what is an illustration if not a cartoon but yeah i know i know what you mean the ringer of it all it does have a certain stink to it i don't mean that in a derogatory way it has a certain well they just take everything to this

49:46Chris Black:this sort of unbelievably dorky level when we're talking about like the viper room and adam duritz being a stick man even though he's not the best looking guy on earth and it brings it back to like, well, it's just like, dude, stop.

50:01Jason Stewart:Like, we don't need. Well, when's the last time, do cool documentaries exist anymore? I feel like, you know, the whole process of it, we're all sort of admitting and in on the, you know, nerdiness of it all.

50:14Chris Black:Well, I think that my feeling is that they think they have to do that so that regular people will watch it because they think they need to over-explain everything. So, like, the absolute, you know, the viewer who's the least interested will feel like they're learning something. Of course, of course. Which, sure, but also -

50:32Jason Stewart:I think you're too close to the crows to really appreciate this is the problem. I mean, I just don't - They need to make a - What if the ringer was like, we made this, you make two of every documentaries. One for the normies. One for the fucking - Two cuts. Yeah, one for the heads, bro.

50:46Chris Black:The other thing that was interesting, I will say, was that there's, I guess, during the - They were kind of like, there's the week between Christmas and New Year's and no one does anything in the music business. It's totally dead. And that's when they released the video for Mr. Jones. Because they knew it would be like MTV would have to play it because there was like nothing new coming in.

51:05Jason Stewart:It's almost as if they stole that idea from us.

51:08Chris Black:Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It's like, wait a second. Where did you guys get this idea? Hold on one second.

51:13Jason Stewart:Yeah, it made me remember. There was some revisionist history going on because when Counting Crows did come out, they were talking about on that documentary, like it was not cool to listen to them. Like they were. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was whack. And I remember, even though I was a kid when it came out, I remember being like, this shit is gay, bro. Because I forgot who was mentioning it, one of the talking head people. But they're like, every day we listen to Guns N' Roses and Def Leppard and Whitesnake and whatever. Yeah. And then one day Nirvana came and then it was over. We just stopped. so everyone was either listening to you know nirvana soundguard and allison chains metal metallica gangster rap all the shit and then counting crows comes out and bring bro this whiny as a motherfucker bro that's why it worked but also when the whiny is just that good it takes off just like our uh our our friend bright eyes you know what i mean because when when i first

52:11Chris Black:heard bright eyes i was like bro this gay is i did not unfortunately i bought it on vinyl and went to every show and so i i mean i would rather i would say that mr jones even though that's not even my top five favorite counting crow songs is rolling through the barrio will live in will live on longer than almost everything from that era for whatever reason of course yeah it's just you

52:35Jason Stewart:know some songs you don't get to choose what song becomes your big one right ice spice didn't get to choose. She didn't get to choose big guy. It just happened. When you're able

52:48Chris Black:to just produce genius like that, you have to let go and let God as far as where it ends up.

52:52Jason Stewart:I spent having a big week. What do you think about we were talking a little Charlie Kirky. Everyone seems to be talking about his widow having righteous gemstones, the best time of her entire life. just a month after or whatever, her husband was assassinated on live TV, basically. And everyone is saying this is a little too much. Even the MAGA people and the Turning Point people and the Christian fundamentalists are like, this is psycho, you know? Yeah, it's definitely psycho. What's going on?

53:29Chris Black:It's definitely psycho. I mean, I think this is maybe what she was, you know, excluding the murder. This is definitely what she was probably trying to do her entire life, you know? But when you marry somebody that's the star, it's tough for you to also be a star. So this is her time.

53:47Jason Stewart:But it does seem to be working and people are still giving her millions of dollars every month, it seems.

53:54Chris Black:Oh, yeah. I mean, because people who like Charlie Kirk are dumb and people who like his wife are even dumber.

54:00Jason Stewart:I'm wondering what, I don't know what the end point is, like what they're promising will be given in return for all of the donations like are they working towards i think it's like having jd vance be vice or become president in three years whatever that seems to be the only

54:19Chris Black:look if i'm her goal for this church if i'm her i'm promising whatever i can and getting your bread and then if i can't do it i'm just gonna disappear and i got your money but i'm but i'm i'm asking what is she promising oh i i don't i don't we know i don't pay attention to that enough to know but i assume it must be something of of well obviously everlasting life you know you'll go to heaven but but maybe there's more to it i was just thinking about it yesterday like how

54:48Jason Stewart:how do millions of people in america who are like struggling to put food on the table and keep clothes on their kids back how are they being separated from their 17 dollars this is

55:01Chris Black:this is religion to it i mean that's what church does it's the same thing this is church for these people they they would rather give the money to her than to their local yeah but with the church

55:11Jason Stewart:they're like you said they're giving you the promise of of eternal heaven existence and you know a beautiful what's more important to you jason what's what's more important to you eternal

55:20Chris Black:happiness or getting these liberals the fuck out of there that's the question maybe you just answer

55:25Jason Stewart:the question but i'm just wondering how in 2025 are is that is that grift still working you're

55:32Chris Black:you're just as and we do this often here but we underestimate the stupidity of the american people

55:38Jason Stewart:and i think this is a clear case of that we need to have a nice religious war right we got to have

55:44Chris Black:a cleansing don't we oh yeah clean yeah put these people in the shower because let's get these people

55:51Jason Stewart:Because we had the Civil War. We had the North and the South. I think we need to have Christians versus...

55:59Chris Black:Everybody else?

55:59Jason Stewart:Everyone else. Or, yeah, just church motherfuckers versus non-church motherfuckers. This is, I believe... We got to decide.

56:05Chris Black:I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I believe this is... The church ain't doing so hot these days, you know, compared to when we were kids. Oh, really?

56:12Jason Stewart:Yeah.

56:13Chris Black:I mean, I don't think... I think that religion in general is just sort of like... It's not what it... It's gone into the underground, man. It's not what it used to be. I don't think it's considered an absolute must by people the way that it was in the 90s.

56:26Jason Stewart:Yeah, I mean, because before whatever, you know, 100 years ago, when it was like, hey, we're living through the Great Depression. I'm eating fucking dirt for dinner every night. My kids have no teeth and everyone's dying of a new bacteria because we don't have medicine yet or whatever. But don't worry. this existence of hell is going to be over soon and then you're going to be in heaven forever but then it got really good for everyone for a long time and now i don't know if anyone is like hey i'm willing to i'm okay with having an awful life yeah if it means that the next time it's

57:04Chris Black:going to be awesome yeah yeah yeah we all maybe we figured out that that next time stuff isn't necessarily true you know there's not a lot to back it up and it's just a shame that that

57:14Jason Stewart:the ultimate coping mechanism has to have a dollar sign attached to it.

57:19Chris Black:Look, I agree, and I hate to say that. And it's tax-free. That's why I donate. That's why I tithe my 10 % every Sunday over here at Dime Square Methodist.

57:28Jason Stewart:This is going to be the new A24 movie.

57:30Chris Black:I can't handle any more A24 movies. They've got to chill out for a little while. Take five, y 'all. When are you going to go see Marty Supreme? Did you pre-buy your tickets on Fandango?

57:39Jason Stewart:I have not pre-bought. I just learned I was talking to Mikey on Friday night and he said that he already saw it I didn't even know that it's already out in larger cities and that's why we live here you guys so we could see Marty beforehand you know maybe I'll see it this week who knows I'm curious to see it Mikey said that he actually liked it and I don't like safety movies very much but he said he doesn't either and this is the one that changed him

58:06Chris Black:I actually I'm fine with them I just wonder if I'll, yeah, I'm going to see how bad it gets in Atlanta. Like how bad, if it gets bad enough for me to go to Phipps Plaza to watch Marty Supreme, I'll let you know.

58:18Jason Stewart:Yeah, because you, obviously, not a big movie watcher, not an AMC Stubbs member, but you'll watch a movie every once in a while on the plane or whatever.

58:29Chris Black:I've seen all the safety movies, coincidentally. Now that you said that, I realize that.

58:33Jason Stewart:But unless it's like a screening or a private whatever debut launch thingy red carpet, when's the last time you went to a movie theater and bought a ticket and saw a movie? I think that Korean movie that I like so much.

58:48Chris Black:Which one? Which one? Remember the Korean movie? It was like about the early 2000s. Oh. We both saw. I think you saw it too. It was good. It was really good. I really liked it. Oh, not Didi? Yeah, Didi. I think Dee Dee might be the last movie that I went to the theater for. Okay. Dee Dee. I think.

59:05Jason Stewart:Did you watch that Boyhood movie? Linklater?

59:08Chris Black:Yeah. Oh, the one that was like, they shot it for 20 years? Yes, I did. That was a good one. I'm a big Linklater. Actually, I love all of his movies now that I say that.

59:18Jason Stewart:Who's the rapper that said we should Linklater?

59:24Chris Black:It's going to be Kid Cudi and you're going to be bummed. it's gonna it's gonna be cory ramone no it's a girl no i think it's slater that doesn't count

59:33Jason Stewart:that's not a rapper oh look come on it's on it's on that's really funny but it's on crank it up he wanna fuck slater richard we should link later get to my hotel suck him off in the elevator that's a plus stuff i spilled the salt shaker buckle bunny bad behavior i'm on junkie time drop doms big truck crank up sublime that's right that's right that's what i fucking like damn this

59:57Chris Black:is made for you this is really jason coated i don't like the song very much i'll put it on the end of this episode but this is a slate this is a slay yyy t-e-r yes correct okay correct which i

1:00:10Jason Stewart:think is a very divisive character in the gay music world okay sure well i mean you know the She's the counting crows of WeHo. She's known. Of toxic gays.

1:00:21Chris Black:She's the counting crows of Santa Monica Boulevard. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I went to Bistro Ha last night.

1:00:31Jason Stewart:Bistro with a T, right?

1:00:33Chris Black:Yeah. On the end. Bistrot. I got to say, it was good. I really liked it.

1:00:38Jason Stewart:Were you able to find enough vegetarian options?

1:00:40Chris Black:I had something that I don't. I wish I would have taken a picture of the menu because I don't know exactly what it is.

1:00:46Jason Stewart:Yeah, you definitely don't know what's going on there.

1:00:48Chris Black:It was like a curried lobster on a puff pastry of some kind, and it was fucking delicious. It was so good. And those are things I don't usually – I mean, obviously, who doesn't like puff pastry? But I just really, really liked it, and I was not expecting – it came with sweetbreads, but I asked for them not to include the sweetbreads. Okay.

1:01:10Jason Stewart:I'm looking at it right now. There's some chilies. Is there fried sage on there?

1:01:15Chris Black:Yeah, it had a little kick to it for sure.

1:01:18Jason Stewart:Okay. Yeah, it kind of looks like a biscuit or it could be something like a pate chode, which is like a French, Vietnamese kind of thing.

1:01:27Chris Black:It was delicious. Yeah, there was also like a fluke. Everything had like a nice kick to it, obviously. But I loved it. It was really good.

1:01:35Jason Stewart:Vietnamese motherfuckers love that little spice. I'm actually going to get some pho after this. I went Carolyn and I went to Morihiro last night which is like a Michelin star sushi spot used to be in Atwater now it's in Echo Park unfortunately

1:01:48Chris Black:wow I love that I love that I love Michelin star sushi Echo Park these words don't belong together

1:01:54Jason Stewart:$400 omakase

1:01:56Chris Black:$400 each?

1:01:57Jason Stewart:yeah each we didn't we didn't get that though we went a la carte off the menu I like that

1:02:02Chris Black:I like when you do the a la carte in those situations you somehow end up spending more money I know you didn't but I feel like that's happened I know

1:02:08Jason Stewart:I ended up spending$400, but just total. That's not crazy. It's not crazy. It's not crazy. Was it good? Yeah, it's really good. It's really good. We should go there. It used to be the only reason to go was the omakase. And when it was in Atwater, I felt so crazy. I couldn't spend the amount of money I would spend at Noma to go eat next door to wine and eggs. And a store that sells cups. Yeah. with a bunch of uh my uber eats guys chain smoking in front to pick up their dune orders to go up to topanga or whatever but now that it's in a nicer spot and it has a full open or it has a full bar with you know get the lychee martinis but like yeah yeah super mixology level vibes but and the best part is he makes like california rolls and like fry like shrimp tempura rolls oh i see he's not like using real he's using like imitation crab the right way shit is how it's supposed to be done i don't care if it's like but he like went through and sourced every single imitation crab and found the right one and he makes his own rice he like grows his own rice and processes it himself what okay it's crazy but so it's cool to have that level where before yeah that's crazy you would get like oh you know this is the the crazy rare abalone or toro or sea urchin shit it's nice to have that level that michelin level with the california roll you know what i mean yeah and have it be you know like 16 bucks or something like that's a really cool approach actually i like that a lot and also i had a little steak and it was served with this tempura sweet potato where you fry a whole sweet potato you like you dip it in the tempura batter and then they fry it for 40 minutes on a low temp whoa i know crazy right 40 minute fry that's a long time so the outside just turns like super kind of paper thin crunchy crispy and then the 40 minutes of kind of slow oil cooking makes the inside cook like medium rare kind of like a steak almost and it gets like kind of i don't know it gets like satiny and velvety and like the middle is different than the center and then like as it goes in and out all the textures are different and everything really good that sounds very good that sounds very good we'll go

1:04:25Chris Black:we'll pull up i need to well we don't we don't have a lot of time but i know you listen to the timothy uh verse um i don't know he's ducked how many mics would you give it if you were you know if you were i like that he i like that he shouts out kylie for being rich that's my

1:04:43Jason Stewart:favorite part yeah that was a nice part and it was cool of him to do that because uh i still almost don't even believe that they're in a relationship you know what i mean like can you just imagine them like hanging out together just i it doesn't work for me for for my mind i think some people were saying like once you when you are a person like that who's flying very close to the wigger son the verse is where the you know the the rubber meets the road that is where

1:05:11Chris Black:you get the definitive decision you know what i mean like how like when you go yeah you go into

1:05:17Jason Stewart:the doctor and blah blah blah i think this is happening you don't know until you get the mri that's really gonna let you know or we're gonna do we're gonna do a blood test and find out exactly what your blah blah blah is you can't you can't hide it you can't fake it you can't get a stylist to make you look cool you can't have the right barber the right jewelry the right everything

1:05:38Chris Black:you know you can do like he wrote himself too i feel like he wrote himself you could buy your way

1:05:42Jason Stewart:into it and have other people help you out but once you're doing that that's when you know and

1:05:48Chris Black:he did not pass the test for me i mean of course not i mean i like of course not of course not the other thing that happened before we go is and he he makes ease the kid sound good what's her name from i love la odessa yeah they they found out that she used to date jaden smith when they were in like high school says everything you need to know huh i know i thought that was i thought That was so funny. Those two fucking freaks. Those two Zionists. Okay. How long gone? Thank you for listening. Merry Christmas. We'll be back. We have one more episode next week before the holidays. We're going to take a little break, but we will be putting out our end of year special that we shot in LA this week.

1:06:29Chris Black:Yeah. Coming to you live from Burbank. Coming to you live from Burbank. Thank you guys for listening. We'll talk to you next week.

1:06:35Jason Stewart:Bye-bye.

1:06:46Chris Black:We'll be right back.