887. - Robby Hoffman

8:27Jason Stewart:either sometimes it's no breakfast i probably eat breakfast half the week if it's if i'm feeling eggy i'll just i'll do like three three scrambled eggs just straight up if there's some protein from the night before a little steak little chicken whatever throw it in there if i have some grouper lying around of course i'll throw that in and then i'll make a an oatmeal and then and then the other one is like some yogurt yeah just like a little yogurt and some honey davide style and that's it but if i do anything more than that then yeah my my whole day is shot yeah having all my crunching

9:00Robby Hoffman:and munching on dinner time yeah you can't have you can't have a bunch of pastries and that's just my body not everyone no not everybody's body is the same but it's it's brave of you to share don't watch me watch tv that's what they fan you don't want this life brother that's what they famously say um yeah i uh i'm like i'm in the holiday spirit i know you can hear it in my voice so i get to go to the mall after we finish recording which is my favorite thing to do which which mall that is lennox we're gonna hit we're gonna hit fibs and lennox hopefully we're gonna do a double double because they're just across the street you know bang bang right right

9:32Jason Stewart:And you have so much time to kill.

9:35Robby Hoffman:No, honestly, not really. But enough. Well, it takes an hour to park this time of year. So you got to factor that in. What about valet, bro?

9:44Jason Stewart:There's no room.

9:45Robby Hoffman:The valet? There's too many Hellcats, man. There's no room. The valet's full. The Bentley trucks, the Hellcats, the fucking double R's. It's all.

9:53Jason Stewart:Okay. So you show up. The scat packs have it all accounted for. There's no room for your. What kind of car did you get this time?

10:00Robby Hoffman:i got a unfortunately an audi q7 um so i'm not super pleased with it why is that unfortunately because it's too big no audis are for women that's just i don't know how else to say it and it's it's like the biggest one which i like but it's more it's not it doesn't sit up high it sits like a yeah it sits like a sedan which i think is the point is the appeal it's a bit of a bastard

10:23Jason Stewart:child between a station wagon yeah like an audi q4 wagon sitting on something but it's not a full high up but i think that's the beauty of the audi spirit but you're coming straight from the land rover sport where you're sitting up high boxy i want king of the road king of the

10:41Robby Hoffman:lululemon store i want range sport black i don't and they had one but it was it was like a whole i was gonna have to change paperwork and i was like all right forget this let's get out of here

10:49Jason Stewart:but i'm sure that the the the interior experience on the audi q7 has got to be it has to be much more of an upgrade because no it's not i like the out no the outside of your land rover sport sleek sexy clean all black inside it's it's giving utilitarian it's giving you know the g the jeep

11:08Robby Hoffman:grand jerry no i disagree interior i'd prefer i'd prefer no this this shit is stupid it has two screens it has one for a for temperature control an entire screen for temperature control and a separate smaller screen oh no i'm looking at do you have do you have quilted seats or not i don't even know probably but i don't like that either that's fussy that's grandma shit i don't want

11:28Jason Stewart:quilted seats what i don't want that one quilted seat quilted seats is is so sick bro no no i mean

11:36Robby Hoffman:it's fine i don't think about seats at all really except for lumbar support of course okay so i never thought about i never thought about seats once bro okay little chrissy wants to be high up

11:47Jason Stewart:king of the road and that's the all that really matters okay that's that really is all that

11:51Robby Hoffman:matters that really is all that matters so i'm i'm happy to be but but the point of this story is that they're not going to keep the q7 up front to say the very least okay okay the neiman marcus will be flooded with you know lambo trucks q7 small fish big pond what color did you get you get baby shit brown you get something nice no it's a it's a silver it's fine okay it's it's fine i would say silver is better than white but not better than black i i hate to say it i don't

12:17Jason Stewart:want to be a poo-pooer but i really don't like the land rover i think i'm i think 2002 was the

12:23Robby Hoffman:last year the land rover looked good that's just to be clear that's a range rover sorry range rover because the land rover discovery is the one i really want but that is the most mom of them all right right and it's it might be the biggest i think like the way at the top is like it like it go i and maybe it's higher in the back but i don't know i don't i don't but just but uh so a

12:43Jason Stewart:Range Rover is a type of Land Rover. It's under the Land Rover.

12:47Robby Hoffman:I think Land Rover is the parent company, and then Range Rover is that, and then Defender. They had a Defender, too, but that's the worst. I mean, the only thing that makes you look like a graphic designer more is a new Defender, or the other... The station wagon is a fussy little car for a man. Okay, well... That just says that you like Japan too much, and that you like... You know what I mean?

13:06Jason Stewart:No, station wagon, that's pimp shit. Is there a way that we could weave this convo back into more of a lesbian demographic based on our guests today?

13:12Robby Hoffman:I mean, I would say a station.

13:13Jason Stewart:I guess we are talking about Land Rovers and Station Wagon.

13:15Robby Hoffman:I would say a station wagon is really lesbian, actually.

13:18Jason Stewart:But we're not hauling. The only thing we're hauling is a Christmas tree.

13:21Robby Hoffman:I ain't hauling shit except the suitcase, really.

13:23Jason Stewart:Okay, so Chris, he's interested in lumbar support. These lesbians, they're literally hauling lumbar from Home Depot.

13:30Robby Hoffman:Yeah, yeah. None that we know. They wear Carhartt, but I don't know how much.

13:34Jason Stewart:She's going to finish that deck like the Navy.

13:37Robby Hoffman:Finish the deck like the Navy. Yeah, our guest today is a longtime friend of the program, Robbie Hall. whose new special is on netflix but let's let's see if she shows up she's confirmed twice and it is on the calendar but for some reason i'm not feeling super confident this holiday season you

13:53Jason Stewart:feel a little little tickle in your is it because she's a comedian is it because it's just it's

13:59Robby Hoffman:no no no no no it's it's just because it's that time of year i feel you know what i mean i feel

14:04Jason Stewart:like people are are checked out that's all yeah where she's she's having a little baileys in her morning coffee at the cabin it could slip her mind that's all that's all but i'll text her we'll see

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18:41Jason Stewart:So does the calendar not, does your calendar not have time zones on it? No, it doesn't. And that's why I wish I could show you. I'm going to actually show you, but I'm going to be out because I'm not. For the record, we know that this is Chris's fault. Okay. So don't worry. Okay.

18:58Robby Hoffman:That's your, hold on. So just to be clear, Robbie's holding up what looks to be a - This is my calendar. You don't have an agent or somebody that does this for you? No, I use this because of the time zone thing. Because even when it's good, it still screws up and flights have been wrong.

19:15Jason Stewart:Damn. It's not all sync yet. They need to figure this out. And in fact, you're catching me at the weird time where I have two going because this is 2025. We're on the cusp of 26, Robbie. look i got a charm for 2026 that's nice that's yeah it's like a pair of crocs what is the um

19:32Robby Hoffman:what are the okay where are you getting these custom journals from because your name is they're just moleskin okay they're moleskin i do the five-day planner um i lived with steph tolv when i first moved to la and she had the mini book i want if moleskin could make even bigger than this i like a full page this is the biggest they have the xl and i'd love it in a different color they only make black and blue in this where do you where do you get the where do you get the name embossing done did they so this is 33 maybe nine dollars and the name is eight dollars now i my name is too long i would wish it was on one line but it's too long and then it makes me feel for indian folks or people who have really long names that they're shit out of luck because my name isn't that long.

20:21Jason Stewart:Imagine the Vivek Ramaswamis of the world, what they're dealing with, charging by the letter. Never mind people in my family, Menachem Mendel, he's not getting his name on one of these. So you'll see 2025, I have the star embalmed and then they put out a charm. So I upped with the charm. The charm really has like a middle school thong kind of poking out.

20:41Robby Hoffman:It does have a middle school thong vibe to it.

20:43Jason Stewart:Robbie, really quick, do you happen to have headphones you could throw on? Is that possible? Yes, I do. Give me a second okay thank you that way when we're when we're talking we don't it doesn't drown out your audio so our listeners can really hear you okay because i have the ones i'm using old school iphones one that have the speaker right near me i mean you you could do that if you can give it a try the only issue is sometimes it brushes against hair and the shirt and it'll get a little yeah my hair is down my hair is down and i'm wearing a rare a rare hair down moment for the holidays is with Robbie Hoffman.

21:15Jason Stewart:Yeah. It's not usual for you to have that, right? This is when, after the special. Exactly. There's Robbie Hoffman before the special and there's Robbie Hoffman after the special.

21:28Robby Hoffman:I know. I'm glad you agreed to do this. I thought you might have switched up on us even though we're day ones. No, I don't switch up on the fellas.

21:36Jason Stewart:That's one thing you don't do. Good to know. Okay, yeah. Quite literally. Quite literally. There's a few tags in that one. huh, Robbie? Yeah. Wow, we're cooking three minutes in. Bada, bada, bing it. Yeah, so... It doesn't take much. Speaking of, yeah, your special is out. It came out last week. I was listening to the Tim Dillon podcast yesterday, and he mentioned going to a Silver Lake comedy release party instead of being invited to Conan O 'Brien's holiday party. Which they were on. He's full of shit because they were on separate nights. Okay.

22:11Robby Hoffman:Well, it was a really funny joke. It was a really funny joke.

22:14Jason Stewart:Hold on, hold on. Let me finish, though. Let me finish. Yes. And he mentions on that if he were to be asked to go to Conan's party, then Rob Reiner would still be with us today. I agree with him there. I will give credit where credit is due. Because he has experience talking schizophrenic people down from the ledge. I agree. Which I think is a great way to make a joke. You know, comedians have to do that. So was that your party that he was attending in Silver Lake? I will say that if Nick Reiner, I'll address both. I will say that I don't know if it's a good thing, but I think him and Nick Reiner would have gotten along.

22:48Yeah. Again, I don't know. I think they could have fucked with each other. I don't know if Tim wants to, you know. Yeah.

22:55Jason Stewart:So you said Tim would have bought him a few more days at the very least. Yeah. Tim and Nick Reiner could have fucked with each other. I could see that. That said, yes, it was my party. Yes, it was the night after. and tim was lucky to be invited i agree all the bullshit he's doing and there's some other people some sensitive you know i i walked the line i walked the motherfucking line we got people who are politically inclined who are you know um into activism and performative online whatever and we have the tims and everybody came to the party and like he said we made it happen i think tim may have felt more fake with people because a lot of people didn't know him but i was happy for people to get to know him right right right and it starts at the small

23:49Robby Hoffman:talk unfortunately i would have liked to see something go down a little standoff of some kind you know i think that would have been fun for everybody it seemed like he was a little

24:00Jason Stewart:uncomfortable being in that environment and he mentioned it being a silver lake rental and he was throwing some shots he was throwing some shade it sounded like he was very fish out of water uncomfortable behind enemy lines a little bit and by the way, no, he's content farming because the apartment first of all, I hope to rent forever here you don't think I have a house elsewhere? I'm not buying in this fucking state that's about to be in the water

24:30Robby Hoffman:you're thinking about the future I'm thinking about the future. I don't know how to fix anything. And it's a beautiful rental. And he loved the rental. He's very two-faced. You know how gay men are. Right? For the content. No, no, no, no, no. You know, like, it's like pushing, pushing, pushing. But he's a doll off camera. And he knows I don't care if he pops off or whatever. Because that's what the gays have to do. They've been doing it forever.

24:53Jason Stewart:No, I think I like that. And then when they're there. It's very, you know, we respect each other. but we all play a little harder. You know, when all the dogs are in the dog park, we play a little rough. We get along. Listen, we're entertainers. I respect it. I respect the game. We respect each other. I myself, you know what? It's so funny that every time I see Tim and I literally idolize and love him, I'm so nervous around him that I can't even be myself still. Really? I think he's the kind of guy for me, and I've told him this because we're friends, but he's like, what are you talking about?

25:26And I'm like, I literally can't get comfortable yet. It'll take me two years. That's what happens when I really respect somebody and how they work.

25:35Robby Hoffman:That doesn't bode well for us then because I feel like we hit it off pretty quick. Yeah, I wasn't so intimidated by the fellas.

25:41Jason Stewart:Well, when you say Tim is the kind of guy for you, what do you mean by that exactly? For friendship or something perhaps more? Oh, no. I meant like the kind of guy that where I look up and then I become friends with them. Like that doesn't happen so often. Right, right, right, right, right. Okay. Gotcha. choking on this morning drink. I'm doing Brian Johnson's. I have his pink vitamin drink. You said my morning drink? Yes. It's a pink. It's supposed to have every vitamin that you need. You put one scoop of the powder. It's instead of taking like a...

26:16Robby Hoffman:Bunch of supplements. I guess a multivitamin.

26:18Jason Stewart:Yeah. And it's called the Blueprint Longevity Mix. Yes. Bingo is his name-o.

26:26Robby Hoffman:Do you use one of those electric whisks? I do, yes. I love it. Wow, that surprises me for some reason. That was the sell for me of the whole thing. Okay, makes it more fun. Yeah, was getting to use.

26:39Jason Stewart:So do you think that this powder is a bunch of bullshit? Is it some snake oil or are you feeling longer? I mean, I don't like that it's a powder because it makes it feel like there's dust in my throat. You got to mix it with water first, Robbie. No, you do mix it, but it doesn't completely dissolve this one. I'll say my one thing.

26:59Robby Hoffman:It's too powerful. It can't fully dissolve. It's not fully dissolved like when you make Minute Maid or something.

27:06Jason Stewart:Sure. Or if you use a nice Magna drip drop or liquid IV, those fully dissolve, no problem. Whisk free. Just give it a shake. Right. That's true, actually. No shade to Brian.

27:17Robby Hoffman:What was the catering situation at your event, at your party? Walk us through the spread. What did he say? He didn't say anything. I'm coming to the source. By the way, he loved the catering. He didn't mention, right? I don't think he's ever not loved catering based on what I see. No news is good news for him on the food, right? Right? Him, I hope you're fucking listening. I love you, you fucking asshole. No news is good news.

27:45Jason Stewart:Okay, were you cooking? Arts, deli. Okay, wow. I did Konica. Okay. Right, so the whole night my special was released, which not that Netflix had to be cute, but they came, they loved the special, and they, not for nothing, like they gave me a holiday day, a December day. It's very difficult to get. I mean, I was told, I never even thought of when they would put it out because I was just so grateful to be finally home. Right, you'll do Hitler's birthday if you get a Netflix special. You don't care what day it comes out. Oh my God, that would be a dream. See, they didn't offer me that. But I mean, look at the month was stacked.

28:22They had, you know, Matt Reif.

28:25Jason Stewart:The Jake Paul fight. Yeah. Ricky Gervais, Chappelle. And to give me a Sunday Netflix and chill night, it was just a really nice bode. I mean, for your debut special to get Netflix and chill on a Sunday night that they're confident in you. Yeah, it's really hard because they put their specials out. Matt Reif came out the first Sunday. I didn't think I was going to get a Sunday. you know i've heard of inaugural specials getting a tuesday on a slow week in the middle of the year you just don't know so when they were so it's that's been just such a treat that they've been taking care and enjoy and for real liking it yeah i was at something where um i was just standing alone also probably liked him at the food table at some point not at my house it's something else and a guy came up to me and said hey it's ted and i was like ted what and he said ted sarano and i'm like if your name is ted sarano you can't come up to people you just can't approach like i'm not they come to you but it's like now i'm stuck in a conversation alone with him you you gotta kiss the ring whether you're in the mood to or not when when ted saddles up to you kissed the ring to me use me jason well look robbie you were a lot cheaper than matt rife so he's happy about that and matt right made him a lot more money so you know it's all fair all is fair all is fair um i got so i so then they said and not only holiday we know exactly where we're putting you the first night of hanukkah which is cute netflix doesn't have to be cute they don't have to be cute they're sharks they don't have to be cute so i decided to go hanukkah so i had um jelly donuts i had the the chocolate like the the chocolate coins i had the menorah you know not just to have pizza or sandwiches i wanted to get arts deli it's an institution i actually didn't know of it somebody i'm working with i said i was gonna get cantors and she was like cantor sucks not wrong good room the food's not great yeah well you know when my mother comes to visit i bring her to cantor's and we've always had a wonderful time but i was like it fucking sucks you're right and she was like arts deli and so i've never heard of arts deli i'm also not jewish obviously but studio city old school spa studio city yeah i was gonna i was gonna do that or neat now's yeah yeah yeah no langers langers didn't have quarter sandwiches they only had full sandwiches which i found aggressive for a party yeah i agree you know i want people to be able to take a quarter of this a quarter of that we had all the sides the dessert was phenomenal Oh, and I had a full bartending service.

31:06Robby Hoffman:Yeah, that's a really nice touch. I think that's undervalued in these situations. Well, I used to think it must be$6 ,000. Like, I went to somebody's rich house, and I'm like, you know, to me, I'm like, I remember clocking that. And I was like, oh, I'm going to do that one day. And you know what? The packet, they start at$300. Yeah, no, and they're hot. They're hot, too, right? Did you get a hot one? You can hire a bartender. No, he wasn't hot, but he was good. no ours lived in a van to be honest with you but um he could have spared me the sob story but

31:41Jason Stewart:anyway i tipped him 100 wait he literally did live in a van and told you yeah yeah he actually lived in a beautiful van but he's a touring i mean he's a touring bartender like like a mobile dog washing service but by the way tim was adult too he ordered ciggies for the whole party i

31:59Robby Hoffman:totally forgot about cigs you mean cigarettes not yogurt yeah what's yogurt there's a brand

32:06Jason Stewart:s-i-g-g-i-s chris is making a little yogurt joke risky that's for yeah that's for all our probiotic heads out there gotta respect it yeah so by the way just to close that out tim was the only one uncomfortable because he's made an asset of himself and everyone which is fine and i respect it everybody else had a great time with each other yeah and by the way the party continued you know some of these people were not industry and i know tim doesn't like unless you're not elbowing you gotta be elon musk for him to have a good time a lot of these people are just cool people um but that said i love him i respect the game and he's two-faced like every other gay fag i

32:48Robby Hoffman:now okay how late did that how late did the party go well it's you know there's always like the after party to the party which is almost the best part the people you know your closest friends will stay around never mind that my brother shmully and my sister-in-law mariana were sleeping were staying with me so so you're saying shmully was asleep no he can't he he stayed up okay i'm just saying that two of my some of my family was staying with me so it even elongated people felt comfortable to stay long because people were just let me ask you a question let me ask you a question robbie you're doing pretty well now what about putting them in a hotel have you considered that or do they want to stay at your house they want to stay yeah that's a problem no we we don't by the way a hotel my sister uh my sister chaya was in a hotel she's allergic i have a little cat but no they love we love to hang out with each other and we would not a hotel if i didn't have space but like you said i'm doing well and they're welcome to stay it was beautiful by the way when tim says rental he didn't uh he didn't mention how many bedrooms he didn't mention what kind of and by the way i would want to follow up i may call him and get it on the record how nice the fucking place is yeah the fellas if i had you guys over i think you'd be very impressed and i think for our next one i'd love to get a full rundown if you guys are in la i want to see what you guys

34:09Jason Stewart:think it'll be the the hlg a ad room i love that exactly that's what i want jason we'll get a small camera crew out no big deal uh that's what i'm asking thank you i think he was just you know he was he was negging your home to to better his joke you know and that's and you know what time it is and it's all good and i was thinking about when he was when he was mentioning if he got invited to the conan party rob reiner would still be with us today and how every i agree um but every tragedy you know like that or the first person to make the rob reiner joke the first person to make the 9-11 joke the first person to make the school shooter joke whatever it's a dangerous game it's very risky and i applaud people who take those chances you know a hundred percent and i'll say this him and nick reiner would have been besties yeah okay you know who he wouldn't have been uncomfortable around nick reiner you know who he would have had a great time to party with

35:07Robby Hoffman:i mean imagine if imagine if tim was there and he was playing defense so bill hater couldn't get over there and we would still nick would still be with us it's so funny you know what was the funniest thing so nick says nick so tim tells me i'm so nervous around tim still because for all his bullshit i respect and love him so much and i can't help it it is what it is and i was so touched he came because i did tell him on the phone like he called me he's like who's gonna be there and i had to sell him i'm like we're gonna have art's deli i have a bartender like you open with art's deli with tim i was like i have donuts he's like which platter did we get which platter he said okay you're selling it number three selling it okay so you you don't open with john early might show up no exactly exactly i'm like hannah might be there she might I was like, Arch Delly, jelly donuts.

36:01He was like, okay, you're selling it. You're selling it.

36:04Jason Stewart:Troy Sivan, he's a maybe. We're still feeling it out. He said, okay, okay. I said, you're doing a really good thing. My brother Shmully will be there. Very excited. And so Tim is outside. He's holding court. He's doing great. Spacious backyard. Very. He tells me that, oh, Rob Reiner just died or whatever. He says, but keep it low. Keep it low. Immediately, I'm retarded. When I hear like, don't touch something, I touch it. I have all of those instincts. So I right away announced to the table outside, which was like maybe maybe a fifth of the party was outside at this point. So a smaller group of the larger group that Rob Reiner and my brother was one of the people.

36:52and then we decided not to like ruin everybody's night by sharing this because we were just we had a great special and the food and it was really so i was like because he told me don't tell anyone like tim actually wanted the but you know he wanted he's very professional at these and i'm like immediately i told and my brother the whole next day was like could you believe tim dylan told me rob reiner died that's how i found out it made my family's entire trip that they got to find out

37:24Jason Stewart:hollywood exclusive from they got a taste of life behind the curtain exactly they got to hear about a death before most of all their friends learned about it back home okay that's exactly it is so your family is aware of the comedy space they know who tim dylan and other players in the in the game mar yeah i think for me they've you know been more educated on the comedy space in terms of i mean they they know probably classic comedians i don't know that they're like so up to date with everything happening but certainly my brother he knows your brother knows that bow and yang left snl something like that right oh yeah what happened there do you have the tea on that i was going to call someone and find it out spring starts at the home depot and we are bringing the heat to your

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39:32Robby Hoffman:Max$100 cash back per month. We don't have the tea, but I can guess. And I mean, it's... What are you guessing? That he thinks he's going to be a movie star. And he doesn't need that anymore. Oh, that's what I think. Yeah. Okay, I think he probably got a huge role. I mean, is Wicked not a huge role? You're saying something bigger? Oh, right. He's on Wicked. His Bergheim movie that's in development, I don't think is going to really bust the box office down. What is that? What is that movie? Apparently he's developing a movie where two, is it, Jason, is it two gay guys that can't get in or is it just, they go?

40:05Jason Stewart:It's him and Matt from the podcast. They are producing a film that was based on a story from reply. All the podcast from, from our friend, whereas it was, yeah, it's, it's about two guys trying to get in to Berghain, the, the classic hard to get into techno club in Berlin. So maybe because he's putting on the PGA hat, I need to really focus in. And I know, you know, stars on SNL will ask Lauren, hey, I need to film this. Can I take this time off? And he famously always says no and, you know, makes people go work over the week. You know, you go film on Monday and Tuesday, come back and into the table read.

40:44Jason Stewart:And maybe Bowen just said, fuck it. Yeah, well, I think Bowen, yeah, is a really, really preeminent star on that show. I think he's just phenomenal. And he's been there a while. i i'm wondering to me the only hint i'm sure he they were on borrowed time with him because he's been such a success and i don't fault him at all and it's a grueling schedule and he could probably have more of his own schedule at that fucking level but i think that something must have happened mid-season my thing is is like he got some big deal maybe the movie i i didn't know about his development but maybe that got huge financing or or another thing we don't even know about that was a conflict that he was like i have to say yes to so i'm sure i'm sure he's got multiple offers and projects and things flying around my my theory was all of that i agree with all that but also snl has sort of in the last year it's just been it's just been really bad and i think it's making like he's not this amazing talent that has to carry the show i think it's like everyone else is just doing such a bad job well also it's 50 years like i think 50 is a good time to end it like 50 years with the guy like it's kind of like remember when ellen she signed three more years i'm telling you there was a darkness there was uh people don't listen to hashem to whatever it is it doesn't have to be it could be the forces and i know she's connected spiritually she likes mediums and stuff.

42:19So it is shocking. But that three years was a bit of a tug and she got the money grab that she jumped on.

42:29Robby Hoffman:But she didn't need. Yeah, didn't need. Or desperately needed. I don't know what you're talking about. She desperately

42:34Jason Stewart:I went from$467 million to$476 million. Yeah, awesome. Exactly. At what cost? Yeah, and during that time it combusted. It's kind of like we're now in we're now on the line with going over like it's now like at a fever pitch 50 years now it's like 51 52

42:57Robby Hoffman:53 you know it feels like those are decidedly less exciting well i i think that people are

43:03Jason Stewart:giving bowen a lot of shit but he said on the last episode of snl i want to go out on top yes smart that's the most admirable smart seems more like a bottom to me but i guess that was the joke on the show ariana grande made the same joke oh yeah yeah he is going out on top chris it hit with chris with me on this time jason so you lose i like but he he's he's on his last episode the gay guy from snl arm in arm with ariana and share yeah there's no and they're crying that is going out on top and most people on snl never go out on top true i will say this i will always respect bowen yang for one incident has nothing to do with anything of his career but his character your audience probably remembers i was also the breakout model of

43:552022 or 2023 new york fashion week oh yeah okay thank you where i was featured in vogue and

44:04Jason Stewart:a bunch of other really nice outfits for your runway work for my runway work as a model i was modeling the real real and real wearing susan alexander at the world famous comedy seller show that's where i first saw that's where i first saw you thank you thank you there was an after party like the vanity fair or the new york fashion week after a party and it was a big party that i kept saying like the whole night like people were like like cape berlant and all these cool mccall were like are you going to the after party and i wasn't on like i said i never got like I have no invitation to this and nobody's like oh you'll come with me like nobody nobody's like oh you're not coming we'll fix that no exactly like that didn't happen so I was just gonna go to the subway home and then I decided I was like I was walking because we were close to where the party was and I was like I'll just walk by just want to see it you know I never as a comedian part of fashion week this and that and i go and everybody's going in the security and i was going to go to the subway and then i see uh sarah sherman lovely book bow and yang with celeste and a bunch of people but it's so many people are there so i'm just walking by i just don't even you know i don't really even know him obviously in the realm of comedy i'm i've heard of him whether he's heard of me who knows and he goes out of nowhere i think he sees me walking away or something goes robbie and he pulls me into his crew it's literally crazy so i'm like oh i i don't think i got an invite to the um after party and he talked to the he was like she's and he not only that when we got in without any fanfare got everybody their first round i like couldn't

45:59Robby Hoffman:believe the generosity well the boy was an open bar but still it was nice for him to go get no it wasn't i don't think it was chris i don't think it was and by the way the poll just another comic

46:11Jason Stewart:him recognizing so bowen yang and uber mensch is what i think that's a new and and kind of there was such a car fuffle of people there it was really busy so it's like jack antonoff's there Renee raps there literally Bowen parts the Red Sea get out of here I want Robbie in now yeah and he didn't nothing I didn't even I hung out with everybody you know my friend Anna Fabrega was there lots of people were there and I it's not like I had to thank him all night or he's one of these like he's like go have fun like I don't fuck

46:45Robby Hoffman:I do like that that is a nice that's a nice thing to do I hate to admit it I hate to admit it yeah

46:50Jason Stewart:yeah this this holiday season be a little more like Bowen huh One more incident where I had the exact same story, but it happened maybe six months later. I was at SNL. I was watching Rami's SNL. I wanted to go see it. And I'm friends with Sarah and Marcello, friendly with some of the people on SNL at this particular cast, even though they're both on there. Michael Longfellow and Devin Walker. So I got to go to SNL, which is really, really fun and cool. But then they have the after party after party. And I brought my friend Trey, who's a comedy seller comic, who I was like, I'm going to SNL. Just come with me.

47:31Wait, actually, I don't even think this was the Rami one. I think this was Dave Chappelle.

47:36Jason Stewart:Okay. The story is so name droppy. So it's almost not worth it. But no, no, we live for that.

47:42Robby Hoffman:That's fine. Just to show you, just to show you the bench of this. So we go to the after party. We're not on it. Shane Gillis goes, Robbie, come in with us. So he got, and I said, can Trey come? And he goes, oh, fine. And the same thing he got us in. So I'm just saying, I don't know these people well, but anybody who pulls me up, who's at the top, I try and do that and they do it. It just bodes so well to the character. That's how it should work. I agree. I agree.

48:09Jason Stewart:It pays well to be the comedian's comedian. And I think the long story short is everyone in this town's on your fucking dick right now, huh? Yeah, but they weren't. This is when they didn't have to be. This is pre-dick. this is this is pretty thank you thank you they didn't have the real heads knew to be on your dick early and often though and now the rest of the world just a real mensch like or it's like who cares if robbie you first of all i'm small how much room am i taking up at a party physically you mean you're not taking up a lot of space yeah exactly okay yeah yeah no i'm certainly annoying yeah renee renee renee wraps got the shoulder pads on they're coming out she's turning around I'm knocking drinks over you.

48:47Jason Stewart:Not so much. I'm svelte. I'm in the corner. I'm having one course light. I'm not running up a tab. Speaking of svelte, are we still hitting Equinox? No.

48:57Robby Hoffman:What happened? But you know what? They're still charging me. Oh, so you're saying you gave up, but they didn't. I'm literally in a war with them. It's insane. You got an email here. Then you got, I said I've emailed. I filled out the form. No, Robbie, if you want to cancel Equinox, you have to tell them you've moved to a state where one doesn't exist or they will find a way to keep you. So you have to be like, I moved to Little Rock and there's nothing they can do. It's insane. I might have to do it. I might literally have to do that.

49:24Jason Stewart:They keep you locked in over there. So why did we stop going? Did life get in the way? Life got in the way. I'm on tour a lot. I was filming a lot. I'm quite literally not, wasn't around. Now I am around, but I'll tell you what we did. I got a treadmill and I have a little bench with six weights because that's really all I was doing. Okay. Was a little bit of weights and 12, 330, 12 minutes, 12, 12 incline.

49:54Robby Hoffman:Yeah, that's, I do that too. I do my little hot girl walk too, Robbie. Yeah, exactly. So what am I doing at Equinox? I do love it. Well, you're people watching. That's what you're doing. No, I love the steam that I miss.

50:06Jason Stewart:Yeah, I used, I mean, I miss the steam at Equinox as well. I used to go, I don't go to the Equinox anymore. I switched to Pilates instead, so that's my excuse. No, no, that's way too boring for me. What does Gabby do? Gabby does 12-3-30 at Planet Fitness. So you own a treadmill?

50:26Robby Hoffman:You got your chick at Planet Fitness, Robbie? Come on, now. I don't know. She likes Planet Fitness. She goes in, nobody knows her, and she goes out. Damn. If I had my chick at Planet Fitness, I'd be getting some feedback from the homies saying that I'm not. When are you going to start letting her use your treadmill? No, she likes my treadmill. I mean, I've never used my treadmill. She's the only one who's used it.

50:47Jason Stewart:I just got this. And by just, I mean like four months ago. But for the record, your body still looks good. You're not gaining weight or anything. Yeah, you know, I'm a mobile person. Can we just discuss this for a second? I am on the move. You're walking around. You're pacing. Your hands are behind your back. I am through airports. I am on the bus. I am on the subway I am walking and moving I am on stage for an hour and I'm not I'm not static on stage

51:18Robby Hoffman:yeah we call that ambient exercise you're known for your physical comedy so I do see where you're you drop down and give them 20 you're a stool fucker you're humping that stool never once

51:29Jason Stewart:never once come on maybe special number two you give one a little you know I don't switch Jason like we said where i don't switch with the fellas the stool humps so i want to get into the nitty

51:40Robby Hoffman:gritty of this special stuff because i feel like you know a lot of people have these and they're not good from what i can see but i want to understand i don't need any hard facts here but let's talk about how the money works a little bit because i feel like so i feel i just i need to understand that what how the deals are structured i'll tell you this i thought you were going to talk about it being one of the greatest stand-up specials recorded in recent history which i would say even if it wasn't mine right i just sing it because it's the truth of course i i look robbie i watched it this morning doing my 12 30 that's not a joke and i did love it but i'm also familiar i i was going in knowing i was going to like it as a fan of the work you know i'm familiar with the brand listen i i'm not gonna i'm not gonna throw i'm not gonna throw anything under because if you put food on my plate, I will, the day I die, respect it.

52:34Okay, so I will give it up to Netflix for putting food on my plate. That said, special shout out also to John fucking Mulaney, who you might both appreciate is a real man. I can't even tell you how much he's contributed to this, not only creatively, but by putting his name

52:56Robby Hoffman:and putting his weight behind it. But financially, I mean, the song, I Gotta Come Out to the Cranberries. I thought a song, okay, so we had$1 ,250. I said for 30 seconds of a song, let's just give them all. I said, give it.

53:16Jason Stewart:You got 1 ,200 set aside for the cranberries and that wasn't enough? I said, give it all. You have to hear me on the call. I said, no worries. you're too kind care about the credits give them all for the opening that was my sense and they were like no you don't understand it's like you know eighty thousand dollars or something and i'm like no no no ask them if they'll take 12 50 let them watch the special and they're like the bitches died like there's nobody nobody will watch this yeah yeah it's yeah charlotte is not watching it and saying like i'm so moved by it i'll give it to her you're talking to a lawyer somewhere in New York.

53:54Yes, exactly. It's like an asset. It's like part of a portfolio at a label or something.

53:59Jason Stewart:From the estate. And I'm like, have they Mulaney calls me, he goes, the song is covered. I don't want to hear it. I'm a wealthy man. Wow. He's just, not only that, I'm talking leading up to the special, he's like, if you want to jump on any of these dates, and by the way, this has been the most name droppy I've been, but the fellas like that. They're gossipy little bitches. Okay. Of course. So you can cut. I don't want people. They came to me with the gossip from Tim. I didn't take it to this route. Okay. So all the listeners, please, if I come off, you know, I've been very insecure recently because I've been doing back-to-back press, which is my first time doing this pod, this pod.

54:41Normally, I really spread them out, but I realize how annoying condensed. And I'm not known as the least annoying person my whole life. I've been annoying my whole life. I know this. and then when you add it when you pile it on and it's just it's condensed like the minute made can and it's all pushed together it's even more annoying but please understand i didn't want to be this annoying they made me be this annoying they came in with the gossip um he said if there are any dates you want to jump on and work on chunks or whatever i'm doing a few stadiums this summer if you want to hop on and try out some new shit literally so i go not only does he bring me out with fanfare and just just not only is my comedy the antithesis to his not only does it

55:32Jason Stewart:make his job he doesn't come out and say what's up faggots yeah when he comes out having to excuse what just happened really sorry really sorry yeah he puts me up at the four seasons i was going to check out of the four seasons in austin and i had my credit card i feel so and so i had my little credit card and i said i'm checking out and um i put my card down for incidentals i would like to pay my incidentals because i ordered a coffee both mornings you know at the four seasons and you want to make sure you get the delta miles with the amex on those coffee no i just want to make sure that i don't leave a bill sure he's already paying the room and they said there's no charges I said no no no no there's charges I ordered coffee both times by the way if I'm honest with the side fruits I like a little fruit okay so a little fruit in the morning so kill you huh I don't want to be a pig but I don't want to be a little pig but a little citrus in the morning goes a long way so so there you go making Chris and Jason laugh was maybe my favorite thing oh my god Chris is my favorite The mandarins are in season right now.

56:45Jason Stewart:So it doesn't make sense. Yeah, no. So I ordered a little fruit. And they're like, no, it's all covered. I guess he's, you know, he checked out and they take, you know, the whole bill. And I said, no, remove the charges. And put them on. He's not also paying my coffee when he's paying this. He called me, Robbie, I'm a wealthy man. Thank you for joining me on tour. Like, he's just class like you can't imagine. I just haven't seen that in a minute. and I know you fellas appreciate not just class in terms of okay he wears a suit he's married to a baddie he's a father he's you know been through some real shit and overcoming but just class and just the way he carries himself

57:25Robby Hoffman:yeah the story he told the story he told about being on coke for so long that he went to SNL to get a haircut when he didn't work there anymore is one of one of the all-time great stories I've ever heard anyone tell I think about it all the time he's unbelievable

57:39Jason Stewart:his unraveling okay well you said that he was very uh important with getting the special main that's why it's tough to talk about money because it's different for everyone you know i guess some people know music costs i don't you know i don't think they even shared the final budget with me to be honest because i was like what if we could we have this and they're like well here's the budget for this and i'd be like and then i would get a call that it was done or something so i you know i i was very spoiled i think netflix really liked the hour you know and i'm not somebody who has an hour they're like oh can we get the hour before kind of like i'm always working on new stuff and when we film that will be what it is um and they came and i i i was i was told they don't come to all of them and they don't watch them all especially on inaugural or you know i'm not a household name i'm just lucky to be invited as you see from from the theme of this episode i'm just literally lucky to be invited so the fact that they pushed that they really took care everybody did so i know it is different for everyone chris so i i don't have uh the numbers on that and thank god i don't because yeah i just think if i was limited by knowing oh we have this much for that i don't know what lights fucking cost and i don't want to know yeah to be honest i don't fucking want to know and we haven't even got into the union the union workers you know they always i don't look at the union workers i don't talk to them i don't know them no i contacted i'm just praying to god they're being paid and i have a feeling they're not always so i just walk to the stage my head down and do what the fuck i have to do wait what city was it la baby it was la okay okay okay was there um you said malaney helpful financially creatively i'm sure he gave you a lot of direction and advice was there any note or direction he gave you that you chose to ignore no he didn't give direction in that i think people mistake like directing television with or film with um reality or unscripted um if you've ever you fellas have probably seen a live taping of maybe a late night show or or maybe something unscripted craig kilbourne okay perfect there we go so the director is really doing a lot of technical stuff that i have no idea about for instance you know the five cameras he's going camera one camera two he's capturing the entire room if it was just me filming it without a director i'd have my iphone on a little tripod in the back call it a day you know he's got lighting he's got um the sound he asked me things like yeah having a speaker on stage and i had no i like it's its own craft directing in terms of the technical know-how of camera lighting and sound and mixing and mixing that all and really having to direct more the technical people there's like 30 people under him where he's going push into camera b push in i don't really know how to cut you know i just i'm on the stage so he gave me no notes he just was like you do what you want to do and i will capture it all it's all trust yeah he just and i felt like that's a style of directing too i think had he come in, it would have felt like early on when Fallon's and shout out to Fallon, I'd love to do Fallon.

1:01:08I hate that this is the example, but they said, you know, Fallon, if you could send five minutes of a clean set to Fallon, you know, they'd have you on a standup. And I think we sent in and they said, oh, could she do this like this? Could she do this like this? And I said, probably not like once you hit play once you hit we're rolling i'm probably gonna say whatever the hell and you fellas have had me on your show but it's not gonna be a prompter that i'm gonna be reading like it's just not even fallon's gonna want you to play beer pong you're gonna want to do your jokes it's gonna be a exactly i'm just not able to can you juggle is there a hula i'm not able to stay in that line i'm kind of just gonna do me and that's what's gonna have to get us there because i'm not able literally to to not i won't you know i just so yeah maybe it took us a little longer but then a netflix comes around and they go you say whatever the hell you want we'll capture it so i i think if i had gotten notes i just think he knows that he just we just totally trust each other on the stand-up front yeah and i think when people this

1:02:17Jason Stewart:happens in other industries a lot with chefs or whatever there's a young rising person you can either let them destroy you or work with them bring them into the folds and you know maybe one day make money off of you or like have you be a part of the team you know it's a real sign of respect that somebody's helping you out like that from such a high position yeah i think he's also like a man in terms of he's not like desperate like he's like moving into direction and he's a really good director because he knows when to input and when you know like he's a really professional director and he's also acting and right like he's totally comfortable well he has nothing to prove at this point as a man yeah like he's just totally generous comfortable he's got a baddie he's got his skates like i don't know he reminds me of like he's just a totally secure man which you don't really see all the time it reminds me when i far between when i was on john malaney's live show for netflix when i was a guest it reminded me andy sandberg was the same way i was popping off running my little mouth as fucking usual and andy sandberg just let me have it because he knows i need it you know i need something you know they're already there they can relax a little i'm still hungry yeah you are you the first person to vape on live netflix television i guess i am i didn't even realize you know for that segment they did tell us he was taking a call i thought we were not on they made it seem like and then he'll be doing a set they told us nothing right right right but except the segments like you're gonna come out okay so fine and then he'll take a call i said oh he's taking this as soon as he took a call i said he's taking a call they did tell me that so i was relaxing the audience laughed and picked up but i didn't think it would be in the i didn't think we were on camera you thought when the call happened director went camera three no more robbie time and then you could hit that that's what i'm saying they made it seem like by the way you guys can relax he'll take a call then we'll come back to

1:04:27Robby Hoffman:you so that's what i thought yeah what flavor is it because it did make an appearance in the special as well kiwi lime oh wow okay you're a real fun one aren't you yeah kiwi lime i mean they're not making it anymore i've quit vaping that was the last of it on the special just regular cigarettes now occasional ciggies um and then that's it yeah they don't make flavored vapes anymore i can't do oh in california i forget yes i forgot i forgot i forgot there's the whole law yeah the tobacco it's like not tobacco i'd rather a ciggy honestly um do you do you think that now

1:04:59Jason Stewart:now that you've hit this moment in your career you've been doing it for a while do you think that being canadian is has been helpful or has it been good or bad for your career overall i don't care it's just the best i love being canadian okay um you know i'm a dual citizen i used to love it's funny when i moved to canada i was such a power of american born in new york you know my father always told me canada was full of pussy bitches and well you know he was always insulting canada and then i realized like oh like americans are like it actually is better in canada minus the weather but even then i like the cold it's funny i'm trying to convince my wife to go i really want to go to like the yukon or even alaska i love like a winter cozy trip something

1:05:47Robby Hoffman:i really am nostalgic about no chick wants to do that robbie sorry no chick wants to do that but you got the cabin here right i do i do and we get snow but it's not the same so it's not that Bro, I've met Gabby three times and I'm telling you she only wants to go somewhere where she can be in a bathing suit. Exactly. She's like, can we go to Sandals? She'll literally pick the worst. She's like, I'd rather go to Sandals than go to some high-end retreat in Jacksonville.

1:06:13Jason Stewart:You want to see a moose and we need to find somewhere in between the two. Bro, I'm talking, I want to be ice fishing. I want to be maple sapping. I'm telling you, I want to be a little hole.

1:06:25Robby Hoffman:You want to be sleeping inside the cavity of a dead yak. Robbie, no chick that you want to have sex with is going to want to do that. That's the problem. Well, I might for my birthday. I'm working into it. Oh, if it's your birthday, then maybe you have a little more power. I don't know. She took me for my birthday this year. Actually, I felt like the bachelor. I felt like I got the one-on-one. She took me shopping. She took me to this really cool consignment shop that I love in Toronto that I remember when it was like... Oh, were you talking about VSJ? Yeah, VSP. very close oh vsp i'm sorry vsp yeah legendary even i've made a purchase there yeah and they had like a little curated like rack for me and like they had some champagne and she had a cake and she said buy whatever you want and i got a shirt damn she tricked off that's a classic trick off is what we would call that in the business yeah and i love that birthday too but it's not to say i wouldn't love a real cold plunge and a sauna up in the yukon wow okay wow that's a that's

1:07:24Jason Stewart:a really nice birthday i would i would suggest maybe a good compromise in in santa fe new mexico they get snow it's wintry no they got they got 10 000 waves which is a japanese spa so you can do the hot plunge the cold plunge in the snow it's it'll and it's a it's an hour flight away beautiful japanese restaurant there as well okay wait wait that's actually amazing okay wait at first i was no but please send me the info she's also from colorado mostly so i'm like i like the aspen but i can't breathe over there that's that is one of the downsides of aspen you got to get the oxygen i i have the oxygen i i know i do but it's it's crazy the altitude it used to never

1:08:04Robby Hoffman:affect me well this is what happens with age things start to challenge us it's your popcorn

1:08:09Jason Stewart:lung is is likely picking up i think it's vapor related yeah you're not helping the matter you're not helping at all it's true okay so well i quit what are you gonna what are you gonna do for for christmas i know you are a jewish person but do you guys where are you going to celebrate we're doing nothing get a little genghis cohen delivered to the house hit the edible that's good no no i definitely this is the first hanukkah in years i feel like so where i did i lit the menorah every single night like i haven't been home this will be my third christmas and i fuck so hard with christmas like since hearing about christmas i'm like kanika who i don't give a fuck about

1:08:49Robby Hoffman:since hearing about christmas so man this christmas shit is crazy y 'all got y 'all weren't playing with me i never really looked into it but i we were never even the jews were like there are like secular jews like we had no crisp like yeah zero no tree of course not like no even mention like we just did not literally nothing no jingle bells nothing so now i'm like really into it i love a gift under the tree i don't think anything can beat a gift under a tree it's such a the tree and the present everything about it i fuck with wow that makes one of us i wish maybe i should try to discover hanukkah at 43 and change my whole life no it's not it does not hit the same I will tell you.

1:09:35Robby Hoffman:The presents feel a little smaller. Uh-huh.

1:09:38Jason Stewart:I don't like that. There's a couple moments on the special I want to bring up before we go. Thank you. I, too, am a hard towel lover. I hate a soft towel. They're absorbent. It's a sponge. It's perfect. You had a bit about putting the too large item in the small bathroom trash can. It kills me. We all have a moment in our life where we stopped doing that. I wanted to know what age you were when you stopped putting two large items in the small trash can. Probably probably 17 when I moved out. When I moved out of my house. So we live like animals. OK, yes. The roaches, the pack ratty nest with, you know, a million kids in a room.

1:10:21And then when I moved out, you know, I was very influenced by hip hop videos like Usher or R &B or even the Nelly where it's like they're going on a date and everything's fresh and clean. Like they had the white towels. I don't want to like, but it's like they had the white towels and the big white bathroom.

1:10:44Jason Stewart:Everything is chrome and white and clean. It's crisp. There was something like one of these hip-hop stars, Omarion, would get out the shower. okay and it's like he was fresh like yeah maybaco stays fresh getting out of the shower he washed his ass he got in there and did everything yeah and he just took a white fresh out and so i realized early on and i was living in a really at the time crappy area verdun in montreal where i moved out my apartment was 4 35 a month and i just thought if i keep neat like i'll feel 10 times richer that's that's that's real that's real it doesn't matter how poor i am like my apartment was you know maybe 400 square feet maybe 300 square feet and it was drafty and cold and you know

1:11:36Robby Hoffman:whatever but your tank tops were clean the white beaters look good every my grandfather bought me recipe city he bought me a used washing machine and dryer set because he said you can't be going to the laundromat he like i agree gifted me that and i just my sister gifted me and this is such a great gift and i encourage all people for a house room she was our older sister every time anybody moved out she got us like a set of sheets or a set of towels which is so kind actually useful actually yeah great gift yeah and i just had two white towels i kept them white i washed them separately and i kept everything neat i had no things almost i kept nothing you know i don't because i was coming from a house where there was too much yeah because you there had to be even if everybody had nothing it's still a tiny house full of 11 people and their minimal stuff that's just math so yeah i just i think at seven i think when i started keeping neat as an exercise and it really I think I just yeah I stopped doing with the trash that's the name of your first book keeping neat

1:12:43Jason Stewart:has a nice Robbie ring to it well Chris has um last year or was it the year before maybe we should get you this gift for the holidays as a congratulations for a special there's a very nice

1:12:54Robby Hoffman:trash can that Chris has oh yes Robbie what is it it's a German brand VIPP it's the best trash cans in the game what is it unfortunately the small one's going for 500 um but the what it's

1:13:06Jason Stewart:So basically, it's a small trash can that you would have in your bathroom, but it has a very heavy bottom base. So when you press on the little foot lever to open it, it stays still. It's an amazing. It's like the G-Wagon of bathroom trash cans. No, no, no. I don't want to press. It's already done. I'm not pressing. That's too much work.

1:13:24Robby Hoffman:I think you'll like the VIP. It feels so good. It's like closing the door of a Porsche.

1:13:28Jason Stewart:So you leave your trash in the bathroom open, tampons flying? Yes. Okay.

1:13:34Robby Hoffman:Okay. All right. I have to go Love you both Happy holidays We had a name for the episode But I forget what it is Something about invited to the party It was something We just name it after you We're not like other podcasts Robbie Hoffman on tour Robbie Hoffman on Instagram Robbie Hoffman's Netflix special Wake Up streaming now I love you both so much Happy holidays Thanks Robbie Later.

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