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0:18How long gone? It's Chris Black and Jason Dimjean Stewart coming to you live from the Hard Rock Hotel Riviera Maya. wilco sky blue sky festival is in full swing it's the last day we're both wearing shorts

0:35Jason Stewart:what's up we're in the dead of winter it's 80 degrees humid as a as a tit mouse yeah we just finished we we just went came straight off stage with our security detail back to room 120 12 33 where the players famously dwell we're we're in a room that has interesting decor i was looking at this headboard i feel like i've been staring at this headboard all week no homo but you've been podcasting taking our important zoom meetings with clients internationally with this i guess it's a silver it looks like it looks like a guitar strap it looks like a bastardized version of the prince symbol or like a weird tattoo that tommy lee would have somewhere on his leg and sort of we have we have a nice bathtub you and i have the same tub what i'm realizing right now as we're doing this as we're surveying the land here is that technically i could be podcasting from tub tub thumping i could be tub thumping yeah you could podcast from the tub bad acoustics that tub is a bass trap we know that and not in a good way bass trap sure sure no i i of course know that i famously know that shit yeah yeah we just finished rocking it we did a we did a live podcast in the lobby on a sunday morning afternoon so it felt churchy in it felt mega churchy and felt like drewski was gonna be showing up in his christian dior blazer oh man all the pastors coming out now being like no no that shit's funny i'm all good with it like they like teams he's like interviewing the guys it's based on they're like oh no no that's we're fine with this beautiful we're fine with this we like it yeah i mean i'm sure they're fine with it as they're using hundred dollar bills to take the fucking totally get the short ribs out of their teeth after they hit Ruth Chris.

2:20Jason Stewart:It could have been any restaurant. Tony Romo's, we'll call it. Of course. Yeah, we had a great show with Katie Waxahachie, Jake, MJ Lenderman. We interviewed them, played a couple songs, did a Lemonheads cover and a Gin Blossoms cover with Chris Black on vocals. If you want the video footage of Chris singing, follow my OnlyFans. You can get some feet, too. Just figure out what you're supposed to say. under td happens as well we did yeah we decided to because i've been here for a while like i've been here since thursday because i wanted to because katie played on thursday and it was sort of the um last show of the tiger's blood tour so i was like i feel like i should try to make it if i can and she did the full the band was like 10 people on stage because everybody was into this it was like fuck it everybody's gonna play um yeah this festival very incestuous everyone's getting up on stage playing with each other it's cool like i think that's actually quite cool and it's smart to do that similar to when you're on a cruise you're on a hard cruise or a weezer cruise or a 311 cruise or a slightly stupid cruise the fact that you're you're trapped in there and there's there's nothing else to do except hang out and talk to your fans who are drunk or get on stage and play music to avoid your fans technically i can play mandolin sure i'll come up yeah it was I talked to Spencer Tweedy last night.

3:46He's like, yeah, there's something going on in the Facebook group about the festival being like who's going to sit in more, Spencer or Jake. And he's like, right now Jake's in the lead. There's a poll. Yeah, and if he comes out with Wilco tonight, then he will win.

3:58Jason Stewart:I love that. It really is fitting for the Wilco fan base where every other thing, it's like let's see what the Reddit has to say. Let's see what the stands are up to on Twitter. But for Wilco, it's like there's a Facebook group. which one of these little cuties is going to sit in both of our moms are in probably yeah yeah they share like needlepoint it's it's patterns and and uh chili recipe vegan chili recipes very wholesome but we we concocted this idea and then i wanted to do gin blossoms and jake didn't really presented it to the team i presented the team i presented the team of barry presents no kate jake was like i don't really know that katie was like let's get eric slick is our friend who's in dr dog but an amazing drummer and musician she was like he can literally play anything so let's get him involved and then they did the lemon heads on their own because i think that you know when they sing together it's quite special when i sing it's it's punishment for the crowd i'll say they're better at singing than you are but you tried hard and you i gave it a valiant effort couldn't be me you're a better man than i i'll tell you that i was too scared to play the fucking shaker i don't know it's because when you hang out with people that are that good I think they would tell me if I shouldn't do it, but they also gas you up a little bit because it's fun for them.

5:14We do this shit with our eyes closed.

5:15Jason Stewart:I think anyone listening who knows you also wants to see you up there on stage kind of squirming a little bit. Feet to the fire. It's fun to watch Chris Black suffer in any moment whatsoever. I suffer every day in my own mind, but sometimes it's visible, sometimes it's not. Check on your friends. Depression is real. Check out betterhelp.com. but yeah I we've been so I've been in a hard rock resort for four days and have you accidentally drank the water from the faucet when you're doing a teeth brush or a shower water thing you been good about it it's weird I don't get I don't care about shit like that like people are so paranoid about that and I believe it to be real but I don't think about that kind of stuff at all you are built different I'm not gonna I'm not gonna fill up my bottle from the tap but I'm also not gonna be like A little bit gets in your eye.

6:05I know, Biggie. Yeah. Do you douche with bottled water? Always. Okay. Well, I brought Avion. I shipped Avion down for the douching. But otherwise, I'm kind of...

6:15Jason Stewart:I saw somebody got their douche squeeze bottle autographed by Charlie. That's the most... I saw that too. It's so fucking funny. She should have released green squeezers. Brat green squeezers would have gone hard. Brat green squeezers is definitely like a roller derby team. fried green squeezers yeah i did i did i did see that that's good stuff yeah so um what happened i was on friday while you were already here down in cancun we had a house party to celebrate carolyn's birthday had a bunch of people over a lot of creatives in the area cool cool people lots of local creatives came over to our house to imbibe i think i just wanted to get that on record so she can write it all off as a networking environment everything's it we're right now we're in case we're being paid to network right now baby you gotta open your third eye yeah i mean the fact that this is all inclusive means that i there's nothing to write off and the problem is i didn't i should have brought small bills i have some yeah a few yeah can you you're the house i need you to change me out i can i don't know about that i'll just give you i'll just break you off can you just give me all the rest of the money you have left yeah honestly i mean yeah i don't think i have that much okay i probably got a hundred bucks maybe um yeah because i'm transacting more so and you know you're you're a real douche nozzle if you're at the all-inclusive resort you know and a nice you know a nice young lady goes to the bar brings you a modello cracks it open puts a lime in there hands it to you and then you say hey scram senorita they gotta give masinka this place is staff the fuck up yeah it's good staff it's beautiful but i mean i even though i didn't i guess it's because i didn't pay seven thousand dollars for a ticket to come here because i feel like at that point then you feel as if you need to get your money's worth more so but since i'm uh i got a full scholarship here you know i i don't feel as if i'm indebted enough to the system so i'm i'm tipping yeah i'm tipping heavy i'm no i think i'm like cobra snake yeah that's walking through aria i think that is the that's the right thing to do but i mean come coming down here to an all-inclusive that's the only you have to leave america to spend american cash it's the only place i've transacted with with paper bills in the last year yeah i'm trying to other than like it's like it's drug dealers and and tipping people uptown actually we were upstate in kingston i paid with cash a couple times for real yeah i don't know why i just sometimes i was because we were at like a restaurant and i had cash and i was like you know what i bet this person will be happy to put a 20 bill in their pocket instead of sure get tipped out later yeah but when you get the 20 what do you even do with it you know i mean the thing is if you work in a restaurant or in in the service industry i'm sure you have a situation i'm sure you regularly visit the bank to make deposits which is annoying but some good podcasting you guys um yeah so yeah did that we partied hard Got a nice cake from our good friends at Quarter Sheets.

9:20I can't wait to go back. Unfortunately, now every LA trip starts and ends with Quarter Sheets.

9:28Jason Stewart:I mean, we'll go. You're going to be in LA in a couple weeks. Yeah. Grammy party. I'll sort out the riz. I love it. Yeah, I've been the last two trips. I went for the challenging cake offering. What's the challenging cake offering? It was mccrut lime and pineapple, which is the new way of calling the kefir lime leaf. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Because that's considered offensive now. Really? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. So kefir, yeah, yeah. For all of our foodies out there, we're not saying kefir. Kefir lime leaf is the new master bedroom, we'll say it. Oh, okay. Or it's like one of those things where some people abide, some people don't.

10:07It's the primary leaf from now on. It's the primary leaf. I've never said that word out loud Because I was always afraid I was going to say it incorrectly

10:13Jason Stewart:Say what word? Makrut Kefir, lime leaf Kefir feels like Which is also a bacteria rich Yogurt drink Yes It's a classic how long gone case They also have a split 7 inch with catharsis But it is Kefir and orchid 10 inch Oh I actually got marble It's a tomato tomato it's a kefir kefir yeah it feels like i could it just feels like something i i don't it doesn't come up a lot in my life and i could make a mistake so i avoid it but it's one of those interesting things where you can kind of it's a tell on how uh knowledgeable somebody is with with sort of geopolitics and yeah how international and worldly they are if they if they don't understand why that word could be offensive or not what is the was it the cake delicious it was but the flavor of that lime leaf is often used in you know thai curries and you know indonesian southeast asian kind of flavor so it's a very pronounced pungent specific flavor that's that's really delicious but to have it so prominent in a cake in a cake it was funny miles hendrick friend of the show who's from australia so you know not not far from valley they just eat whatever over there and those things so he's he's used to that flavor and nobody nobody disliked the cake but it was it was almost like a hallucinogenic experience for many people that are just like this is an extremely tj choice like how was it and they're like that was the most interesting cake i've ever tasted in my life like was it bad like no was it good it was very interesting that's cool though i i appreciate i don't know what it is but i appreciate that more in a dessert form because i feel like it's so easy to hit a home run with like chocolate and peanut butter and caramel or whatever but the okay this brings me to the al roker viral moment where former big boy al roker said that he squeezed a little lime on his biscoff to get a little key lime stank in one seat which is which is jail very it's very fifi it's giving it's giving Fifi and it's giving cast away like where you're you have heat stroke, you're delusional and you're like I'm just going to squirt this lime on this Biscoff cookie that fell out of a crashed plane I would try that but I feel like to do that to get the key lime feel you're really looking for there needs to be a whipped cream in play can you imagine a bowl of Biscoff crushed up Biscoff?

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I use Factor Meals every once in a while in my home and I think you should too Head to factormeals.com slash howlong50off and use code howlong50off to get 50 % off and free breakfast for a year Offer only valid for new Factor customers with code and qualifying auto-rearning subscription purchase Make healthier eating easy with Factor Because I've had a Sunday on a plane once or twice because it felt they bring the cart around It's such a fun thing to do Be a fool not to at$30 ,000 But I got the idea of sort of like a cereal bowl full of biscoff and whipped cream with lime squeezed all over it sounds fucking delicious well i've done i've carolyn and i have made some some tarts like that where you do like the graham cracker crunch or whatever but yeah you get a box of biscoffs put them in the food processor mix it with a bunch of brown butter make the crust put a little whipped cream on there some fresh raspberries or whatever you know when i'm in town so just bomb as hell you know just gonna have to take home i didn't get any thumbprints but also we're both going to be on a delta flight tomorrow home of the biscoff and they will have limes so we need to i'll try it hold each other accountable okay and uh the guy next to me i'm just smashing the i mean i i feel it feels a little bit like the way i'm gonna order it as a roker just to see if the flight i think that the i imagine it like you know when sometimes you see a person this feels rare to see in public but when you take the old school ketchup packet and you squeeze a single cocaine style line on the fry you know what I'm saying it feels like you would have to do that you have to pick up the biscoff in it's full form factor squeeze to cover and then chomp down and it feels a little you know it feels like eating a banana if you know what I'm saying I do know what you're saying I just feel like I feel like it's a little too much and on the plane obviously all rules are out the window because people behave like we should talk about my flight down here it's a great one of the craziest flights i've ever been on i mean i ate a microwave shake shack burger so yeah people behave like savages at 30 000 feet i was sitting in a window seat which is my least favorite thing because it causes left shoulder issues for me because i feel you should go on the if you download the delta app it lets you choose your seat just next time what so i so i'm in i'm in comfort plus window i'm next to two guys regular size guys so it was cool everybody's cool he's you know this gay guy next to me is listening to call her daddy i'm like you should check out how long gone oh okay so he's listening to amy poehler and call her daddy you give him the hung smile and said hey here's my card and then there's another guy watching like fucking you know f1 videos it's all good there's a guy there's a family and it's a guy like a loud mouth brooklyn the most annoying fucking new york nico character you've ever seen he's got three little badass kids a wife and a grandmother he's with two kids the other kid is older back with the wife and grandmother and this motherfucker is talking like he's like joking about how bad it's going to be to the entire plane he's like sorry guys you're gonna have to deal with the circus you know i was like all right all right fucking all right all right this is gonna i'm like this is gonna be bad this guy thinks he's doing fucking stand-up the kids are just screaming like crazy they have post-it notes they've covered the screen the walls post-it notes are everywhere they're fucking coloring he's eating he's got the kids headphones on he's texting he's playing a game kids are just wiling out at one point one of the kids shirt off just walking up and down the aisle of the plane and nobody this is what i mean though this is where society's gotten where it's like everybody is so afraid to say no one said anything the staff didn't say anything and to me this was like i i don't like to it was over the line it was over the line and like if i would have been sitting next to them i'd have been like bro are you for real because this guy wasn't like a hint guy like this guy wouldn't he wasn't sensing that the entire plane was looking at him subtleties are lost on him completely lost and then we get off the plane he's he literally has to ask the steward for a his own trash bag to clean up all of the fucking mess that his his children i guess it's nice that he's doing it himself that is nice but it was just like it was unbelievable and then there was a guy that i shared a car with one of the guys from battery presents sure we showed a car and we were on the same flight and we realized and we were both like bro i've never seen anything like that and he was like dude i fly all the time i've never seen anything like that in all in all of my years you know it's funny a lot of our listeners are now probably re-watching mad men now that it's available on streaming again oh is that why people are i thought i think that's why it's back in the zeitgeist okay and why you know young people gen z is is rediscovering a picture of john ham with the two perfect eggs and a fork at the chateau marmont one more time yeah yeah we all because we all use forks to make i didn't want to say it i didn't want to say it but yeah i mean great photo of john ham that son of a great photo but that's that's of a time where you if if you had a child that was behaving badly like that and a stranger man or woman reprimanded your child for misbehaving in public verbally or physically you thank that stranger for whacking your kid yeah in public because they were helping me out and this was and this was the thing that i mean obviously bad stuff happened back then but even in our childhood you know in the in the early 80s when we were kids like if you were acting up and you know a grandma gives you a whack on the back of the head because you're being a jackass your mom would keep it moving i'm so sorry thank you sorry about my kid versus like i'm calling the police fascinating now is i think that especially with all of the sort of like grown men watching tiktok in public no headphones thing i think i think we've hit a point with all this stuff and i'm obviously guilty of this right this second where it's it's it's a content creation situation versus like an actual real life like if you if you sit next to a on a flight for three hours and a guy watches tiktok the whole time you choose not to say anything but you take a sneaky picture of him and then post on twitter about it yeah yeah and that is unfortunately where we're at we're never going to be we're never going to change our behavior if we're not self-policing and also the problem is when you see somebody in danger a medical emergency something like that you're more inclined to to film it than you should just be well you should just be world star and now it's everybody world star was we we didn't know what we had when we had world star because before something that would happen and it would say we need a doctor somebody you know rip my shirt off and use it as a tourniquet to help this person and now it's just like oh shit that grandma just got hit in the head by a uh you know a crazy guy with the sledgehammer this is gonna be yeah this is gonna go loco my numbers are going up i'm actually a little short in rent this month i didn't expect this to go viral if you could vimmo me yeah so people out there we have to start taking action i want i i really want to and i think you gotta say i mean the classic move is that when you have the drunk wife or girlfriend and you go to the husband or boyfriend if you don't shut her up i will of course that kind of move which is instant fight that's my that's the issue like if i i feel like i want to be mature enough to be able to you think that In gay spaces, like you're at the Eagle or you're at a gay bar and someone's twink is mouthing off and you go up to his bear zaddy and you say, if you don't shut her up, I will.

23:15Yeah, and it ends in a three-way on the floor. That's the difference. Everybody wins.

23:20Jason Stewart:If you don't shut her up, I will with my hard throbbing cock. Fine. Get down. But I just think that I think that. Wait. Down? Are you hitting on me? I think that the I want to be mature enough for that to be able to approach that situation and it not devolve into some sort of altercation. I don't think I'm there yet, but I want to get there because I feel like we really could self-police. Everybody's so on edge. If we got comfortable with that, I think society would operate better. It would be the breaking of eggs to make that omelet, but the omelet does have to get made. What if you reframe it in the cuck kind of way where you say, if you don't shut my bitch wife up for me.

24:07Jason Stewart:What? Shut my bitch wife up or I will. Or else. Or else. Yeah. They're going to be like, wait a minute. Hold on. Is this good? Hold on. I think I like this. Yeah. When I was on the plane, it was a much better experience. I had a large person next to me who was in a bad mood. Big mama. left the left the the window open the whole time and and looked at the flight map type of shit just like upset but i was in the aisle and she never got up to pee one time so i'm gonna take it as a dub that's a dub but um there was obviously we're we're traveling from la to cancun so the type of folks on this flight it's a it's a audience it was where um it was it was you know We're all going through the 2016 revival flashback.

24:57Jason Stewart:We need to get into that. Which we will. And this is a classic TJ Segway. But 2016 is alive. You know, like on Portlandia, the spirit of is alive in Portland. The spirit of 2016 is alive on the flight from LA to Cancun to Lume. Do you see a Clap Your Hands Say Yeah t-shirt or something? No, no, no. This is real shit. this was this was like pretty hot mom wearing the crew neck sweatshirt it's not a fear of god it's not park with a knee it's spiritual gangster oh hell yeah taking it back i forgot about when you see like a kind of hot mom wearing spiritual gangster hoodie and then the best part was hopefully somebody's not listening to this hopefully this is not your chick but you know when some people women will have a tattoo maybe on their forearm or whatever on the heartbeat with a line it's it's it's in that vein but it's all the moon patterns oh you know the full moon the crescent moon the half moon the little but but all it was it was running down the back of the leg of the flared yoga pants we call that the abit kinney where i come from that's the tulum little toss around piece right there that's to luminati streets to belong to the to the bro what so you're telling me that the so yeah on the phase left leg and right leg the wide flared yoga pants it's made out of like the same material that like an all lives matter like gator would be made out of like that you know like chimo textile that is actually fabric brick extremely twisted and then the moon patterns all up whole back of the leg which is similar to taking it back to 1996 when you get the badass chick who's got the two bows tattooed oh classic just underneath the ass that's a classic that's a touloum version of that what that says to the fellas dinner is served for my pilates shit serve the platter we're open for business serve that platter that is that's actually you pair that with a spiritual gangster hoodie and you know we're walking with the best was she fit she was fit that's my thing with the trim bird that's my thing with spiritual gangster you need to be if you're gonna wear that you gotta how long gone rule number one you gotta have a rig because that is just that that's not a lot of menswear podcasts are are willing to talk about this angle of fashion not this many streetwear podcasts out there are going to say this.

27:30Get into the trenches. No, I think that's an insane look. I really forgot. Spiritual Gangster was everywhere.

27:35Jason Stewart:Spiritual Gangster with the moon pattern flare pants. You already know. Head game. Bananis. Bananis. She grabbed the cacahuates and does some shit that you ain't never had before.

27:52Oh, God. Oh, bro. Come on. You got to let me live. Oh, shit. the gang the gangsta stays on the gangsta stays on but you're right that the spiritual gangster has had it had its um had its uh smoothie bowl ate by park and dairy boy eating your dairy boy

28:12Jason Stewart:nachos did you ever you never were friends with or tangled with a girl that had the bows tattooed oh i'm sure i know where the leg meet the ass i'm sure i've known some in my life Atlanta is a pretty tatted up place in general because where I'm from every other woman in Orange County has that Orange County is really tatted up too very tatted up I think that's where that tattoo was invented I just feel like you don't realize like when I was younger I didn't realize that everybody in Atlanta was tatted up and did cocaine and then when you leave people are like oh Atlanta and there's two things they know about it you know what I mean you were in the eye of the storm as a tattooed person doing cocaine exactly I was too close to it as they say and I'm a victim of it as well yeah sometimes you have to come out of your cloud and look around you ain't the only one brother um yeah so you want to talk about 2016 well i psychosis of what you know why that well my thing is where did it come from is it i mean obviously it came from the calendar it's a 10 year anniversary but this was the first time in the history you know it's not i guess you know it has like a bicentennial i see energy to it is there a poster that we can track this to as setting off the trend patient zero yeah who is patient zero of the 2016 insert and also you know i have no idea it's not look it's not as bad as indie sleaze but nobody looks great some people did but most people did not i would say the mistake that a lot of people are making and they're not thinking this through is that they've had some adjustments made and 2016 is like it's a before and after 2016 is like wow i did not know your nose was that big you know and 2026 is like you look good but it's it's it's a strange thing to not think that through when you're when you're participating in these trends i think those people who don't think things through ignorance is bliss kind of thing yeah i agree i don't really i don't they're sleeping better at night they have a higher sleep score but their life is bad as nostalgic as a person as i am i'm constantly looking backwards you know for for my music for everything that i like beethoven victorian era the classic i listen apple classical but the apple seed cast but the apple seed cast classical but the um i just find it to be such a strange it just is it feels depressing to me i don't know it just feels it's very depressing it's depressed because of all the years you know like all right we're gonna start doing 10-year tbt throw like a global initiative yeah will take place unspokenly in the year 2026 which feels completely arbitrary yes but i think the sign is you know the everyone is so unsure of the world we i mean with the with our global economic collapse and the tariffs we can't afford to create and post new images we have to we have to go back so we're going back and mining this is the equivalent of scraping the resi bowl yeah yeah in the in the roar three footer i mean i guess i guess i guess in the scheme of social media trends we can't afford greens this is harmless you know what i mean it's this isn't like this isn't like actually so over the top stupid but it feels like it really i i feel like i looked at my phone and I was like, what's going on?

31:33And the next time I pick my phone up, that's all I saw. Like it really swept across all.

31:38Jason Stewart:But is it better to have the world do one commutative dump of this is what was going on 10 years ago versus when the trend first started with Twitter of doing the throwback Thursday, having that happen every single week. Great point. Indefinitely. You're right. I would prefer a globally recognized dump to a weekly slow drip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you're right. And I think this stuff is obviously going to keep coming and we have no choice. And as far, I was confused, but as far as the contents of the content goes, it's pretty good. Like it's fine. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's not like, it's not the sort of ice bucket challenge.

32:21Jason Stewart:Yeah. And also so much has changed in the last 10 years in our world of social media and the zeitgeist that we speak about, 10 years ago was the last time when you would just post photos of what was going on in your life versus it being content that you need to think about and curate and create for your personal brand because that's all you have in life. I'm sure someone somewhere was using the word creator in 2016, but my parents didn't know what that was. Yeah, and it was a fleeting thing where I was like, yeah, we i i hung out with my friend and we had dinner and here's a photo of us posing in front of our guacamole and we went to a concert and we went hiking and we and that was it versus now where you have to pay it costs money to you know to experience experiences that are worthwhile for your grid yeah totally especially the grid especially for the protect the grid so this was a different time.

33:27It's been a long time since I remember something sweeping that grand. Also, that stuff usually lasts a lot less time. I feel like the 2016 thing is still going. Also, what happens when corporations get involved. Every magazine posted their 2016 covers. There's ways for everybody to participate, so it feels like it's able to have a longer tail.

33:50Jason Stewart:It really feels like this is the equivalent. I mean, like I said, the scrape in the resin bowl, but it's as if we have the toothpaste tube and we ran out of toothpaste. And then most people are like, oh, let's go buy a new tube of toothpaste. And then some people are like, let's get the little clothespin and twist it and squeeze out one last drop. This is the equivalent of one step further, getting scissors, cutting open the toothpaste tube, licking and scraping one last thing because we don't have enough money to buy another tube of Marvis. That's kind of what I'm feeling. I agree with that. Oh, it's 420 right now.

34:32Jason Stewart:Happy 420. This is going to keep going. I mean, this is going to keep going. but i i guess we're gonna in 10 years we're gonna be like man remember when that first resin hit hit before we were smoking glass yeah exactly before we were smoking like animal feces and stuff i just don't understand i yeah i guess i just don't how far does it go and i guess how far is the because i think every generation thinks the generation before or their time when they were younger was better and more fun and like cooler and everything was looser and it's like 2016 was like donald trump was president it's not that it's not the it's it's not like it was not a totally different time yeah we had instagram we had it's not free love 60 we're not seeing the rolling stones at ultimat like it's like it was you know what i mean it's just i don't know it's like not that it wasn't like studio 54 yeah that's what i mean i mean 10 years is a long time and sure things have gotten worse obviously I guess but this obsession with escaping the current time because it's so bad just seems like there's got to be a healthier way to deal with it than obsessing over 10 years ago when it wasn't that good well it's either post photos from 10 years ago that we already have on our phone or throw our phone away yeah yeah yeah you're right there's no middle ground this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Squarespace.

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39:42I feel like we've got to give Ben Affleck sorry he likes to get divorced. Sorry he likes to drink. He's got motion at the courthouse. I've seen three or four clips and both of them I'm like man you guys are articulate. They're just great celebrities because they've given us a lot. It's just a good story. They're real friends. They've given us a lot.