896. - Chris & Jason

23 Jan 2026 · 59 min · 24 chapters

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Podcast Notes: How Long Gone - Episode 896: Chris & Jason

Episode Summary In this episode of *How Long Gone*, hosts Chris Black and Jason Stewart share a lively discussion while apart—Chris in New York and Jason enjoying his time in Hawaii. The conversation touches on various topics from pop culture to food experiences, personal anecdotes, and observations about societal trends.

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Key Topics Discussed

  1. Travel and Location Insights
  2. Jason's Hawaii Experience
  3. Enjoying Kona coffee and local cuisine.
  4. Discussion about the cost of dining and beverages in Hawaii.
  5. Mention of hotel fees and the latest elimination of hidden costs by MaybachZoe.
  • Chris's New York Perspective
  • Commentary on NYC's changing landscape, likening it to a hotel experience.
  • The absurdity of pricing in urban settings.
  1. Food and Drink
  2. Restaurant Experiences
  3. Jason recounts dining at Seafood Bar and Grill, featuring local fish.
  4. Chris shares about a dinner at Tolo, highlighting a unique take on Asian cuisine and exceptional fries.
  5. The duo debates the cost of Veuve Clicquot in Hawaii versus Manhattan.
  • Fish Rebranding
  • Discussion on the marketing of fish (e.g., Orange Ruffy's original name "slimehead").
  • The importance of appealing names for food items in the culinary market.
  1. Pop Culture References
  2. Harry Styles' Upcoming Concerts
  3. Discusses Harry Styles’ plan for 30 consecutive nights at Madison Square Garden.
  4. Impressions of Styles' music direction and questions about its electronic influence.
  • Timothée Chalamet Critique
  • Reference to a Vulture article critiquing Chalamet's recent stylistic choices and cultural representations.
  • Discussion about authenticity in celebrity personas and cultural appropriation.
  • Michael Rappaport
  • Commentary on Rappaport's online persona and eating habits, accompanied by humorous anecdotes.
  1. Societal Observations
  2. Cultural Behaviors
  3. Discusses the acceptable ways of consuming food in different cultures (e.g., sushi etiquette).
  4. The impact of social perceptions on food consumption methods.
  • Celebrity Behavior Trends
  • Conversations about how celebrities navigate their public personas, especially in comedy and serious roles.
  • The rise of social media's influence on public reception of celebrities' actions and statements.
  1. Economic Insights
  2. Steak & Shake's Employee Equity
  3. Commentary on Steak & Shake's initiative to offer Bitcoin equity to employees.
  4. Discussion on the shifting landscape of employee benefits and incentives.
  1. Personal Remarks and Humor
  2. Light-hearted banter throughout the episode gives insight into the hosts' personalities and their friendship.
  3. Frequent humorous comparisons and witty remarks punctuate the episode, creating an engaging atmosphere.

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Key Takeaways

  • Cultural Sensitivity: The importance of understanding food and cultural contexts in social settings, especially when traveling.
  • Celebrity Influence: The ongoing evolution of celebrity branding and public perception in relation to their cultural portrayals.
  • Market Dynamics: The impact of marketing on consumer perceptions, particularly in the food industry.
  • Travel Impressions: Personal travel experiences can lead to broader conversations about societal trends and consumer habits.

Conclusion This episode encapsulates the essence of *How Long Gone*, blending humor with cultural critique, lively discussions about food and travel, and insightful commentary on celebrity culture. The hosts manage to keep the conversation both entertaining and relevant, making it a delightful listen for followers of pop culture and casual banter.

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Chapters

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Weather and Coffee in Hawaii

0:45 to 1:40

Discussion about the beautiful weather and coffee culture in Hawaii.

“Having my Kona coffee, I got a shark tooth necklace.”

Travel Experiences and Time Zones

2:24 to 4:50

Conversation about the impact of traveling across time zones and different beach resorts.

“Yes, of course, they're not going to lose money, but I don't think they were.”

Dining Experience in Hawaii

4:50 to 6:40

Details about a seafood restaurant experience and the types of fish they serve.

“Sometimes that swordfish can be a little tough.”

Fish Names and Market Rebranding

6:40 to 8:06

Discussion on the marketing of fish and the strange names they are given.

Champagne Prices and Preferences

16:53 to 19:08

Explore the nuances of champagne pricing and personal preferences in alcohol.

iOS Updates and User Experience

19:08 to 20:31

Discuss the challenges and surprises of new iOS updates and user adaptability.

“Bro, I never update iOS on my phone or computer.”

Harry Styles' New Music and Its Impact

20:31 to 23:06

Analyze the upcoming release of Harry Styles' music and its cultural implications.

“truly a fucked up bad one and Apple has sort of What I've noticed the most is that sort of the search bar is now at the bottom instead of the top.”

The Future of Electronic Music

23:06 to 28:00

Examine the evolution and perceptions surrounding electronic music and its fans.

“you've ever seen in your entire life, just like standing there in front of the DJ booth judging your track decisions.”

The Sweet Deal of Jamie XX

28:00 to 29:18

Explore the financial perks and unique opportunities of artists like Jamie XX.

“that's the deal because it's not like Harry's getting a discount.”

The Role of Celebrity in Music

29:19 to 31:04

Discuss the influence of celebrities like Taylor Swift on opening acts.

“And if you like their music and think they're cool, like what, what a great thing to be able to do, you know, like, what a gift, what a gift, like, cause your agents don't give a fuck.”
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Steak and Shake's Unique Employee Offer

33:02 to 34:14

Explore Steak and Shake's innovative employee equity program in Bitcoin.

“We were talking about Shake Shack Fries earlier.”

Timothée Chalamet's Cultural Identity

34:15 to 35:34

Analyze the complex cultural identity and public perception of Timothée Chalamet.

“Congratulations to Sinners for a, I guess, this is the record the most of all time.”

The Oscar Campaign vs. Film Promotion

35:35 to 37:43

Discuss the differences between Oscar campaigns and general film promotions.

“And then once you hit it big, suddenly I'm country, I'm American.”

Fashion in Urban Culture

37:44 to 39:48

Delve into how urban fashion reflects cultural identity and trends.

“If I'm Timothee Chalamet and I want to win an Oscar, but I can also go hang out with Drewski, I'm going to go hang out with Drewski too.”

The Rise of Reality TV and Public Personalities

39:49 to 41:37

Examine the cultural impact of reality TV and figures like Michael Rappaport.

“That's just what it – that's just – I mean, honestly, I don't know why.”

Rappaport's Public Image and Fallout

41:38 to 42:00

Explore the challenges and controversies faced by Michael Rappaport.

“And I'm wondering if he's going to have a Kramer from Seinfeld, you know, lapse of judgment, and he's going to snap and just like whatever version of him screaming the N-word at the improv.”

Political Commentary and Podcasting

42:00 to 43:20

The hosts discuss the current political landscape and the evolution of podcasting.

“I think he's like anti-MAGA, but he's definitely anti-Zoron.”

Food and Eating Habits

43:20 to 45:20

A humorous take on eating habits and cultural differences, comparing different styles of eating sushi.

“are not enough to handle the silverware and eat accordingly.”

Cultural Appropriation in Food

45:20 to 47:20

The hosts explore perceptions of cultural appropriation through food practices, particularly sushi.

“with the right confidence, the same way they know it can sense your fear.”

Celebrity Commentary and Criticism

47:20 to 49:40

A discussion on celebrities, their actions, and how they are perceived in popular culture.

“It's a really good scene in Indonesia right now.”

Kanye West and International Performance

49:40 to 52:00

The hosts analyze Kanye West's performances in various countries and the cultural implications.

“Yeah, God's, you know, I think I said on the last episode or the one before that these people, they have 48 months to live.”

Jonah Hill's Transformation and Media Perception

52:00 to 56:00

A look at Jonah Hill's physical transformation and public perception, discussing the impact of media.

“He's one of the great actors of our generation.”

Changing Language and Cultural Norms

56:00 to 56:52

Explore how language around gender has evolved over time.

“I mean, it's the same thing with a word like cunt.”

Italian Culture and Stereotypes

56:52 to 58:07

Discuss the humorous stereotypes around Italian culture and relationships.

“He would never say that around his Tigers.”
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0:28This podcast features Jason Stewart and Chris Black. upon our beautiful city. How are you feeling?

0:33Jason Stewart:Brada, quite the opposite. You know, it's 70 degrees Fahrenheit at night. We're experiencing some cloud coverage, but otherwise, a beautiful day here on the big island. Love to hear it, honestly. Love to hear it. Having my Kona coffee, I got a shark tooth necklace. The coffee was only$8 for drip coffee. Hey, I just paid six for a drip coffee, and I'm not at a hotel. So think about that. You know, think about that. New York City is just like a big hotel at this point, right? Honestly, yeah. In some ways, yes. Yeah, you don't say like, I'm going to go around the corner and get a coffee from the bodega.

1:10Jason Stewart:You're like, I'm going to go into a place called the Marketplace. Yeah. And it has like a selection of sandwiches and coffee and jewelry and stuff. It has some. If you look by the counter, there's some magnets and jewelry and stuff. If you need anything else, something extra. It's the only thing to do here, baby. Well, it's funny you brought that up because I just wanted to give a shout out to MaybachZoe for getting rid of all those unnecessary hotel fees for people like you that when you visit, you're going to save a little cash. The Amex getting a little foot rub, if you will, from MaybachZoe.

1:44So shout out to him.

1:46Jason Stewart:So basically what he said is I'm going to eliminate all of this, the hidden fees and the, you know, all the little, you go on booking.com, booking.yeah. And it says, cool, the four seasons,$398 a night. And then by the time you go click through, it's$750 a night with all the fees and hidden stuff and blah, blah. So does that mean that the price, I mean, like nothing will change except they'll just be upfront about the total price? I haven't read into the details. It's not as if the hotels are going to decide to lose millions of dollars. Yes, of course, they're not going to lose money, but I don't think they were.

2:27I wonder if they were accounted for on the books, let's say. You know what I mean? I'm sure there's several bottom lines when you're running a hotel business. Right.

2:34Jason Stewart:like how athletes get paid a million dollars salary a year and 67 million dollar bonuses every year that was just a bonus my salary as you can see is one million dollars when people talk to me about their base salary plus bonus i'm like what the fuck is a bonus bro i ain't ever had i ain't i ever had that i ever had that to me chris a bonus feels transactional it's like i'll bring you out to miami but you know what i mean like i'll fly you comfort plus but you know what you got to do when you get there okay let's not let's not make no bones about it all right but you're in you're in hawaii yeah the bonuses are performance based that's right that's right they are i'll job i'll let you know i'll let you know show you the canoe club take you to the canoe club girl hand carved oh my god yeah yeah i mean i'm i'm having a little bit of a psychosis shout out to our au bears resort family um for for blessing the kid with a beautiful ocean view we got bumped up from the mountain view to the ocean view it's looking beautiful we got the adult pool and the kid pool and all that stuff but to i've gone from the east east coast time zone cancun mexico to hawaii time zone five hour time difference in the middle of the pacific ocean both living at coastal, I guess, resorts.

3:59Jason Stewart:And I feel as if my life doesn't exist anymore. Wow, it only takes two trips that you didn't need to take to feel... Damn, I used to have to use drugs and alcohol to do that. But now you're saying I can just change... Oh, I'm doing that too. But it's just I've never woken up, left a beach resort, and then flown to a different beach resort. yeah well i would i would say it has me a little scrambling obviously not complaining obviously not complaining that makes sense actually that would scramble me too that's why i only go to the beach if there's a gun to my head and in this case uh i know there is so i'm not i would never i would never in this case there is actually actually i could see it zoom the camera's off but i know it's there um yeah i i think that that could be discombobulating a little especially to a landlocked you know it's not like you it's not like you are a sailor or anything no i'm a country boy at the end of the day you don't spend as much time yeah yeah you're a country boy exactly even though i'm from surf city usa huntington beach california at the end of the day i'm just a country boy that's that's it's a it's a mindset it's a mindset so you're all right so you're feeling a little scrambled but what do you think is on day are you doing some stand-up paddle boarding are you gonna go you know visit willie nelson like what is what's going on while you're on the big island how much parking lot poke are we taking down like what's well what's the big plan the big plan we get here fast and we take it slow thanks to our partners over at delta um but i got in last night we went to a restaurant called seafood bar and grill and befriended the owner and whose name is dave he handmade me his signature mai tai and we had a delicious piece of uh of steamed fish a local kind of like a type of softer, less steak-like swordfish that I forgot the name of already.

5:52Sometimes that swordfish can be a little tough. I'm glad you brought that up.

5:54Jason Stewart:Yeah. I'm glad you brought that up. No, he said the East Coast swordfish, those are the ones that can get a little chewy, a little steak-like and a little, you know, fibrous. And then, you know, certain forms of the more Hawaiian Pacific type of swordfish, a much more delicate, easy-to-eat fish. I mean, some people like that steak. I mean, stop trying to make swordfish a thing, honey. Just give it up. You know what? I don't know that much about fish, but I also agree with you about swordfish. I feel like it's being forced down our throats, paws, and I'm not really interested in that. Yeah, there's been a lot of restructuring, rebranding, and remarketing in the fish.

6:32Jason Stewart:Similar to how we don't call it rapeseed oil. They're like, you know what? This is maybe not going to work out. like like every fish the original name is just like very unappetizing like i feel i don't i don't i don't remember any of them but i'm sure listeners will send me dms the way that they told me that danny elfman was the drummer for asap rocky on his uh landslide of a performance but i think like orange ruffy whenever you hear a name of a fish like that what the fuck is orange ruffy bro i ain't ever heard of that it's a very popular type of fish really yeah yeah okay tell me more about it it's just like a normal plain piece of white fish but my grandma used to like it but i'm sure the original name is called like you know like the mud mud swappers you know just like something oh boy did you see that mud swapper i gotta i gotta catch that thing it's fucking running amok on my problems in thailand it's called the gutter eel but over here it's called you know i see what you're saying you're saying we would rebrand the name of a fish especially a a cheap one to make it more appealing to the to the customer exactly exactly it's all marketing it's like how when they made brussels sprouts link up with bacon hold on i gotta look this up yo yo yo i got i got an idea so what if what if we took brussels sprouts right and then we just threw some pig in there right and then we heated we heated up and maybe i mean i'm not trying to be crazy we could drizzle a little honey on that shit too if you if you want to get really really with it um shit did you fuck this whole thing up no i didn't fuck anything up just chat gbt's being a business a child just died for you to search orange ruffy it started giving me like ideas of you got to think about how you got to think about what you're doing man you're not you're not conscious with your consumption big bro dude that's dope okay look at this look at this orange ruffy's real name is slime head holy shit slime head scientifically Specifically, it's the Hoplosteus Atlanticus.

8:38Jason Stewart:The fish was originally called the slimehead because it has a large, mucus-filled canals near the head and its rough, bony skull. Unsurprisingly, the name did not sell well, so in the 70s, they rebranded it as Orange Ruffy. Orange Ruffy is not that catchy of a name for a rebrand. Slimehead. Look what Chad DPD said. Slimehead sounds like someone that's playing at 3 o 'clock at Rolling Loud, but I don't know. Yeah, YBN Slimehead 4000. He was recently gunned down in the... He went to Oblock. We told him, we told YBN Slime not to go to Oblock, and he did it anyway. Known associate of Spottam Gotem, unfortunately was apprehended.

9:20Jason Stewart:No, liquid chat GPT is getting too talky. Look at this. Orange Ruffy made it sound more appetizing and premium. Huge glow up, honestly. Don't tell me that fucking renaming the slime head fish is a huge glow up, honestly Slime head fish? Okay, so you had, but last night you had Show me more fish What did you have last night? I'm sorry, what did you have at the restaurant last night in Hawaii? Oh wait, hold on, I got the biggest, greatest hits list Okay, slime head orange ruffy Chilean sea bass is the Patagonian tooth fish Yeah, mahi mahi is the dolphin fish What? Because they had to change it because people thought it was actually dolphin they're eating sea world this is crazy I've never thought about this at all pacific snapper that's a rock yeah yeah snake head is a mud fit you know it's all there okay yeah it was a piece of this nice fish wrapped in a banana leaf steamed with you know some ginger and some aromatics some rice some steamed veggies a little like drizzled sizzled oil on top and it was just like real light real you know fill you up in a way that makes you your body's feeling happy and stuff.

10:32Jason Stewart:It was great. You're saying it was nourishing to the soul as well. It was nourishing AF and we were able to split it and then just share just a light I thought you were talking about the bill. I was like damn bro it's her birthday. That's a little crazy even for you. The only thing we're splitting on this trip is entrees honey. I make up for it by stealing things throughout the day just to sort of get one up on the mx bill they're like sir that water's free you don't have to stuff in your pants it's fine it's that's part of the deal here all right i'll pay for the water but i'm keeping the earrings okay okay that's that sounds i actually i had a delicious piece of fish last night too okay i think our we're cycle sisters this can't believe we didn't get the globe this year go on tell me about your fish it went there's a i think i've told you about this restaurant before it's called tolo it's like very it's like in dime square but it's it's delicious asian me tolo you Chris.

11:25There's a great tuna thing. There's a great but the real thing the real thing that blows my mind.

11:31Jason Stewart:Do you all do that great tuna thing here? I mean it's like a tartare but it's got an Asian twist to it. How is Tolo spelled? T-O-L-O. That's the most Manhattan restaurant name I've ever heard in my life. It was like a brand. It was just the sauce was fucking amazing. I don't actually know what the sauce was but they make these french fries. They call like the seaweed shake shack fry and they come in like a brown paper bag with seaweed all over them and they are fucking delicious. I think about them all the time. But it's one of those restaurants that's like, I go relatively often. It's really good, but it's always pretty mellow.

12:01But I think they have like a sick wine list. Oh, yeah. So I think that attracts a certain kind of customer, but great restaurant.

12:08Jason Stewart:Speaking of sick wine list, guess how much the bottle of Vouv is at my local canteen here. It's right next to the Goop store. I'm sorry. One more time. You said - You know, a bottle of Vouv Cliqueau. Vouv Cliqueau champagne. Oh, Vouv. Oh, I'm sorry, because it's available. It's next door to the Goop store or it's in the Goop store? I think that's where my confusion is. Yeah, the Goop store is next door to Da Market, which is my local provision shop. Your local larder. Yes, yes, yes. You're saying U.S. dollars on the island of Hawaii at a five-star resort. Typically, a bottle of Veuve Clicko will run anywhere from - $89.99?

12:47Jason Stewart:No, no, no. You can get it like$40 to$60 nowadays. No, you cannot. No, you cannot. You are absolutely wrong about that. Full-size bottle. Oh, really? I buy it all the time as a gift. There ain't no way you're getting it. Hold on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm looking at BevMo right now. There ain't no way. This is a good research base. $68,$68.99. I mean, there's one here at Astor Wines for$60, but I would say the average is between$60 and$80. Okay, I mean, I guess maybe Manhattan price is a little much. That's also true. That's also true. This reminds me of when I stopped to buy a bottle of Dom Perignon for someone's birthday, and I thought I was really going out of my way and then I went to their house and there was probably five or six bottles of Dom Perignon sitting on the gift table.

13:31Jason Stewart:Put it with the other. And I was like, I just spent$3.50 on this. Okay, BevMo, the base model Vouv Cliqueau Brut is$59.99. Okay, yeah, BevMo price is different. You're right, you're right. BevMo price, that's going to be as low as it goes. Okay,$59.99. I'm going to base my guess on a Manhattan price because that's getting us closer than an island price. Sure. So if I'm saying 70 on Spring Street, I'm saying I'm going to double it plus 10. I'm going to say 150 on the big island. Got my quince on, but it looks like Laura. All right. This episode of How I'm Gone is brought to you by our dear friends at Quince.

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15:49Jason Stewart:Cutting edge design over here at Squarespace, we have our Blueprint AI tools, an enhanced design partner where you can choose from a library of professionally designed award-winning website templates and they just work. They click and drag and adjust whatever you want, the colors and formatting and styling options, all those things. And it just slides in real nice and real smooth. Get your domain locked in, get your SEO tools automatically worked out so you don't have to know about any of this stuff. Or if you are a pro, just have everything all in one place so you don't have to use a zillion different services for your donation offerings and email campaigns and video hosting and all this stuff it's all in one place at squarespace thank god go to squarespace.com slash how long for a free trial and when you're ready to launch use offer code how long to save 10 off your first purchase of a website or domain nailed it nailed it oh my god on the dot on the dot dude that is big well done okay that's big okay wow i'm feeling really good about myself i thought it was whereas uh you know i could probably sniff around you know the local liquor stores in glendale and get a fucking bottle of chris chris chrissy for that i should buy a bottle of chrissy for someone i because i feel like we used to think it was so expensive but i bet how much is crystal actually if you buy it in the store it's not that bad right it's like it's less than 300 it's less is it less than dom it can be it depends on the year that's about yeah i mean i'm looking now again new york prices i would guess but like 350 three astor astor wines and spirits a famous new york institution sure that's my baseline here probably so 340 it's it's a little bit more than the dom i would say the dom looks nicer packaging wise yeah and if you get a good year of the dom that like a really good dom year i don't know what pause i don't know 99 2002 whatever it may be it's my favorite champagne i've ever had if you get a good year but also i don't know anything about one or any of that you're like it's the best i'm not i don't know why but it's the best well okay so 150 are you thinking about splurging or is this something you just caught and you you want no i'm thinking about posting a photo of it on my instagram stories with an emoji that sort of says can you believe this bullcrap you know that's about as far as it's gonna go i think that that probably sells i'm sure that that market has a selection of overpriced items like all markets would in that position yeah i bet the champagne sells better than many of the other you know the the nerd ropes and the airheads probably aren't moving quite as swiftly no i've i mean and every single person i was on the plane with in delta one those are the people you know like the the 52 year old really dorky rich guy who's showing his like 11 out of 10 wife like the new ios features while she's trying to fucking you know go shopping on the real real on her phone he's he's the one who is like i gotta go down and get some vooove while my fucking yeah hymns three and one is kicking in.

18:54Jason Stewart:I gotta fucking seal this deal. Babe, I'll be right back. I need to talk about this new iOS update. Not to go David Cho mode or fucking Ben Edgar mode, but Mac Rumors ass. Mac Rumors ass. This is the worst shit that's ever happened to me. I fucking hate it. Bro, I never update iOS on my phone or computer. I don't know why I did it. I didn't even feel I don't even know why. Like, I just clicked it. I didn't even really think about it. Tim Apple caught you slipping. He caught me slipping and I gotta tell you what I'm PO'd bro because it sucks this fucking see-through glass or whatever they're calling it liquid glass if I can't smoke something called liquid glass I don't want it I don't want it in my life I want to be very clear yeah I've been taking liquid glass lately just trying to kind of lose some of the fat in my cheekbones I have a liquid glass subscription so it comes every month but I just yeah I don't understand how why does everything like that is it just because it's not what I'm used to so I'm saying it's worse or is the sort of is society saying it's worse um i think it's a little bit about it's it's i think it's 50 the getting used to a new software typically like the excitement of the new features should neutralize the uncertainty of how to operate the new things but also you know as the annals of time pass by for anything oh uh software updates albums whatever you know music movies things things will be like you know the iPhone 4, that was the goaded one.

20:21Jason Stewart:The iPhone 11.3 OS update, that was the worst one. There are objectives. There's the hall of fame. Good and bad. This could be truly a fucked up bad one and Apple has sort of What I've noticed the most is that sort of the search bar is now at the bottom instead of the top. That's psycho. And that's a big switch for someone like me who's searching often. You know what I mean? One thing I'm going to do. Oh, Rick Rubin ass yeah i'm searching i'm not talking about my soul i'm talking about for music for whatever i need on my phone my notes app i got this motherfucker sir but you don't why don't you just start doing s-i-r-i searches what the what are you talking about what s-s-r-i's i don't take those bro what are you talking about no no just s-i-i don't use siri bro i'm not i don't want to say it out loud because then it's gonna get me i don't do s-i-r i don't use that shit i don't and if you text me and it says sent with s-i-r-i i might leave you on red because that makes me That's the robot talking.

21:19I want a human texting me. I don't want some robot talk. Bleep bleep bloop bloop ass talk. I don't need that. I don't need Daft Punk helmet on texting me. Take that helmet off, bro. Talk to me in your little French accent. The biggest news happening, obviously, is friend of the show, Harold Stylish, the song is dropping tonight at midnight. Obviously, I'll be staying up to kind of take that in. And the rumor, so they did like a pre-listening for like the super fans where they went to record stores all over the world. And I did watch, I watched it. There was like a super cut of some of their instant, you know, their first takes.

21:58And it was a lot of teenage girls looking for words to describe electronic music, a genre they've never experienced before is the vibe I was catching.

22:08Jason Stewart:No. So I want to say as a fan of guitar music, no, that's real talk, as a fan of guitar music and Harold's past work, which heavily featured instruments, I am concerned this is going to be a computer-based project. And I'm going to have to try harder to be a number one fan. And I just, do you think, as someone who understands electronic music on a cellular level, will you be able to usher me? Like, will you be able to help me? Will you be my shaman? Will you be my Rick Rubin? I can be your hero, baby. Okay, because I heard one girl describe it as deep house, and I started sweating. Because you know that's scary for me.

22:48You know that's scary for me.

22:49Jason Stewart:Yeah, that is scary for you. And, I mean, there's a great sort of EDM Twitter meme of, you know, a DJ's worst nightmare, a deep house head. And it's like a video of this guy. Like there's a dance floor and a guy playing a deep house song, and a guy's face is like the most judgmental face you've ever seen in your entire life, just like standing there in front of the DJ booth judging your track decisions. So, you know, the world of Deep House means a lot of things. I'm sure the average Ole Miss student, Harry Styles fan. No, no, this was a little more like Melbourne than Ole Miss. Like this was a little more urbane is all I'm saying.

23:33It wasn't, I wish it was University of Texas, but it was more like Amsterdam or something. You know what I mean?

23:42Jason Stewart:It was in Sao Paulo and Melbourne. It was a very global reach. Okay, I got you. I got you. I mean, so it's the same thing as when Eminem said nobody listens to techno, and he's talking about Moby, who made some of the gayest music of all. He was making these sort of down-tempo house tracks. You know what I mean? So it was just like - Well, I do love Moby. A lot of people just don't know what to call what. Yeah, that makes me feel good because I love Moby. But you are - Yeah, yeah. I mean, Moby's great. You guessed, or you're guessing, that it could have a Jamie XX. What was the hit record called?

24:15In Color?

24:16Jason Stewart:Yeah, the one that came out, whatever, a few years ago. Two years ago. It was 2015. No, the - Oh, two years ago. I was talking about the hit one with the - Oh, right. With Oh My Gosh. Oh. My. Gosh. Oh, let down. Oh, let down. Oh, let down. Oh, let down.

24:39Jason Stewart:I have not heard the music at all, but just based on the leaked images of the branding materials, it was basically like the Jamie XX DJ sets of the last year, two years, where he's doing his festival tours. and on the visual LCD screen behind him are just, it's just video, candid shots of the crowd, you know, having a epic moment. And I'm sure Harry has been to a bunch of those shows with the bandana wrapped around his head on Molly and just like, this is it, man. This is it. In four years, I'm going to steal this idea and have Jamie do it. Unfortunately, I think that, and maybe this is me digging too deep, but this reminds me more, the Harry rollout reminds me more of the photos of this guy uh ewan spencer do you know who that is ewan spencer yeah you would recognize the pictures it was like a lot of rave photos the most scruff thing i've ever heard out of your mouth the hairy rollout it's so good but this these pictures are so good and it reminds me more of that like if you look today at the tour announcement it's got like up close photos of like people making out on the dance floor that remind me quite a lot of like a mix of Ewan and Martin Parr almost.

25:51I like it. I think it's cool. I don't know if I'm anxious, Jason, but I will say 30 nights at MSG is some real letting my nuts hang type shit.

26:02Jason Stewart:Yeah, I mean, because he's done the run before, but it was never this many dates in a row, right? And it's not in a row. It's not like he booked MSG for 30 nights. I think that's just difficult from a scheduling perspective. Although I'm sure the holds on MSG are tough to get. Sure. So what I want to know, I mean, we were talking about this, you know, just the feat of it, of him doing 30 nights at MSG. Quite impressive. Obviously, it's going to be a big moneymaker for all people involved. What do you think Jamie XX is getting? so if he's going to open all 30 shows and let's say normally his guarantee for something like this DJing for an hour for a big event like that maybe I don't know 40 ,000?

26:52Jason Stewart:50 ,000? Something like that? 100 at least I mean it depends on a lot of things ticketed shows versus branded events versus whatever but obviously he's going to get a group discount for booking 30 I don't know if that's you don't think so? not even a little bit's gonna get shaved off the top fuck no bro there's no way you don't give Harry Styles a discount the last guy on earth that needs a discount I'm more curious about Jamie XX who's got the easiest job yeah but I'm saying that my guess is committing to that is cool for him but also that's a big commitment and you know that the ticket you know it's gonna sell it immediately no matter if you're there or not so you're going to try to get as much money as you possibly can and everyone's going to be okay with that but I'm saying both agents are going to be cool with that because I think everybody knows what the deal is but I mean I think regardless of what's going to happen in any form of business you're more likely to get a discount the more units you buy so I think they have to work out some type of package I don't think so I think it's like I get 150 or whatever a night for 30 nights that's the deal because it's not like Harry's getting a discount.

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28:04You know what I mean? Now, are fuckers getting the same? Probably not. Of course. Shout out to the fuckers. I love my fuckers. But I think Jamie XX is the biggest expense. I mean, Shania Twain actually might be getting more. Robin?

28:21Jason Stewart:Probably getting maybe more. I don't know. But either way, Jamie XX comes out with his T, He rocks out onto the stage, plays some vinyl tunes for an hour, maybe an hour and a half. And he's going to walk away with so much money. And he gets to get put up in New York at a great hotel. Gets to hang out, do whatever. His friends can all come and see him every night. I'm sure I'm going to go hit him up for guest list one of these nights. He'll go, you know, hang out sometimes with his friends. Go have dinner. hit the after party maybe maybe not it's just such a sweet deal it's it's i would say that of all people my jealousy is shining through i think jamie xx deserves this actually i think it's kind of the perfect yeah because i think in a lot of these situations and harry styles has done this before he just puts like whoever he thinks is cool to open and doesn't give a fuck which i respect like when jenny lewis was opening for harry styles or like dev hines is opening for harry styles like that's cool as hell to just be like hey do this and i feel like maybe that's it's a similar thing with Jamie XX where it's just but it's it seems it is easier because he's just DJing in theory you know and it's funny because Harry's not the only person who does this but you're you're mentioning like it's cool when he does it but for some reason when like Taylor Swift books you know Haim and Beba Doobie and what you know whatever her version of whatever Harry's doing it doesn't feel as if like hey come on and have fun and we're gonna rock the show and it's going to be all good this one feels a little bit more yeah it feels like i'm gonna no just give me a little bit of blood my tour manager will take that and then we'll just we'll call it even i think that's the best way to to do this probably transactional is the theme of the of this i agree but i also think i mean i i think that's true but i also think that there is a sort of if you've risen to those heights of of uh celebrity and fame and ticket sales as a musician you even even even if you're Taylor Swift, you sort of know that you are the hand of God and can bless someone with like a life changing opportunity.

30:29And if you like their music and think they're cool, like what, what a great thing to be able to do, you know, like, what a gift, what a gift, like, cause your agents don't give a fuck. They're like, we're going to sell these tickets somewhere. It's like, we need a package, you know, like we don't, it's literally up to the artist, which is, I feel like pretty rare. Cause I think at lower levels, it becomes a real sort of how, you know, a chess game of how we can do this to sell as many tickets as possible where that's sort of out the

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32:43Jason Stewart:Zootopia has a secret reptile population. You can watch the record-breaking phenomenon at home. Zootopia 2, now available on Disney Plus Rated PG. And right now you can get Disney Plus and Hulu for just$4.99 a month for three months with a special limited time offer ends March 24th. After three months, plan auto-renews at$12.99 a month. Terms apply. We were talking about Shake Shack Fries earlier. I noticed that Steak and Shake did something interesting. Did you see this? They're offering equity splits for their employees in Bitcoin, and it invests after two years. Let me tell you something, Jason.

33:22As a fat boy, nothing hits. Have you been to Steak and Shake before? No. Bro, that shit absolutely slaps. And there's one near my parents' house. Next time we're in Atlanta, I'm going to take you because the fries are amazing. I didn't know what a smash burger was. They were doing that 20 years ago, 30 years ago. I don't know if I would accept Bitcoin for employment.

33:48Jason Stewart:But I think it's just sort of like their version of the 401k or something or also just simply as a means of having employees stick around longer, not having to hire and retrain people every four months. It's a good idea. and I think that like it feels like a choice made by an independent business where these I believe these aren't even franchised I believe this is just like a giant corporation you know oh yeah I forgot that Steak and Shake their old logo was like very similar to the Nazi oh yeah I forgot about that too like it was like same overall brand guidelines as brand guidelines as the secret service not fucking brand guidelines we should also talk about the the Oscar nominations that came out today.

34:35Congratulations to Sinners for a, I guess, this is the record the most of all time.

34:43Jason Stewart:I think, yeah, I think the most nominations of a film ever. Okay, I'm not, that's still not going to get me to see it, but I'm happy for those guys. I love Ryan Coogler's. I watched it on a plan. It was okay. Ryan Coogler's speaking voice is one of the greatest of all time. And I think that that's my biggest takeaway. It's as if he's channeling a character from Friday after next so good you know like a guy that that smoky owes money to or something you know but did you see this story in new york magazine by craig jenkins about um timothy speaking of craig have you where craig at timothy chalamet being a i'm not going to say the word jason um but we got the yeah the the title the vulture story is is titled timothy chalamet could only wiga out for so long so it's basically a critique of his marty supreme rollout him you know doing druski yes wearing timberlands like whatever you want to say and rapping with a very white guy so i guess that kind of cancels it up but yeah um and and this is like a common theme that people have seen in uh in the world of entertainers you know starting out as a rapper the post malones the jelly rolls You start out as this hard edge rapper with face tats and you're trying to adopt a more hip hop black person style.

36:08Jason Stewart:And then once you hit it big, suddenly I'm country, I'm American. And then you abandon it and then people feel a little betrayed. Betrayed. This feels different to me because he's, I do think when you're born and raised in New York City, it's a little bit of a different swag. Yeah, I don't think Timmy falls into this because Timmy is poly-everything. Yeah. He's pan-culture. Yes. He is equal. He will sing you a Willie Nelson song, a 3-6 Mafia song, a Shania Twain song. He'll do show tunes and jazz standards. And I think he's just everything. He loves basketball and table tennis and Shakespeare and...

36:53Which makes it hard to believe any of it. Bonsai trees. I would say, but I also think that it's true. I agree with you. I think you're right. I just don't know if this is the... It just seems like a weird hill to die on a little bit to me because I just don't... The thing about him that's so frustrating as a known hater is that it does all seem authentic, even though it is obviously in hopes of getting an Oscar and selling tickets to a movie. It feels authentic to me. I don't know why. I wish it didn't, but it does. I don't think he's got a fucking whiteboard in his apartment and him and Kylie Jenner updating it with what stuff he can do and what sort of race that falls under and if he gets it equal.

37:41You know what I mean? It just doesn't feel like it. Right, right, right. Of course, going on Drewski is not going to win you an Oscar. If I'm Timothee Chalamet and I want to win an Oscar, but I can also go hang out with Drewski, I'm going to go hang out with Drewski too. It's fun.

37:55Jason Stewart:Yeah. I mean, I guess another point they're making is how the film campaign is different than the Oscar campaign. And I mean, which is natural if your team of people who do this for a living know who you have to pander to. And when you're trying to sell a movie, you're trying to touch every single culture and age range and sex and gender and whatever. you want to cast as wide of it as possible whereas the Oscar nominations and victories you're trying to specifically speak to Hollywood entertainment industry executives and people that are members on the board they have to be different I think I mean if you're smart they have to be different like I don't think that like I just think that everybody has to do everything now and if you want to have a problem with that you can and there's arguments to be made but I'm a little bit like, I don't, I think you could be exhausted with his sort of campaigning, but I'm not sure if you can pin it on specific.

39:02I don't know. It just feels, it feels like a, a reasonable thing to explore. I just don't know how, I just don't know if other people are going to see it, I guess.

39:10Jason Stewart:I think the New York, the growing up in New York city of it all sort of changes how you how you dress and you know like like you said timbalans that is a you know if i'm if you're walking around in certain parts of the world or the country and you're wearing timbalans as a white person it might stick out a lot more so than you know on the streets of manhattan no and new york it's a winter shoe puffy puffy jackets and tims and whatever you know air force ones like the whitest kids you've ever seen in your life in manhattan are all wearing air force If I go outside on Saturday when it snows, every fucking white teenager is dressed like Jadakiss.

39:49That's just what it – that's just – I mean, honestly, I don't know why. I don't know why. Because it's like – I don't know how to explain it.

39:55Jason Stewart:The option is like do I wear this North Face puffer that is affordable, goes with everything, lightweight, easy to wash, or do I get like some weird like wool overcoat from Banana Republic that, you know, makes you look like an investment banker or something? Yeah. No, that is kind of true. You don't watch that show, The Traitors, right? No, I feel like I should, but for some reason, I've just missed it a little bit. I know that it's quite popular, mainly from following Raven Smith on Instagram. Yeah, I've never seen it, and I don't plan to because it kind of feels like an extension of having game night at your friend's house.

40:36I think that's probably fair. But people love it in a way that's like sort of like when Love Island took over the world, you know, and it was like all anybody could talk about. This is a lesser version of that, but a similar, I'm seeing similar chatter, I would say.

40:50Jason Stewart:It's a game of deception. That's evergreen where I'm from, but everyone seems to be hating on Rappaport. I mean, what's new? People have always been hating on Rappaport, but now he's sort of thrust into the center stage so everyone can see just how insufferable he is. and I feel like everyone loves fucking with him because he always snaps you know like there's a classic video of somebody like throwing a snowball at his head while he's like doing a live vlog or something you know this whole crap with this cancel culture shut up shut the fuck up nobody wants to hear it you've been talking all fucking week you don't care what you have to say just stop talking you got me right in my fucking head asshole He gets knocked down and gets up again so much.

41:42Jason Stewart:And I'm wondering if he's going to have a Kramer from Seinfeld, you know, lapse of judgment, and he's going to snap and just like whatever version of him screaming the N-word at the improv. I think we could only hope. Like is Rappaport going to do, is he going to snap and like. Is he Republican now? Kill the guy or something? He is, right? He's like sort of gone. I don't know if he's super Republican. I think he's like anti-MAGA, but he's definitely anti-Zoron. Well, he wants to run against him. I used to, sadly enough, Rappaport, OG podcaster. I mean, there was a moment where his podcast was really popular, and this is like during the early days, I would say.

42:25A lot of awful people have been doing it for a long time.

42:27Jason Stewart:It's actually true. No shots at us. How long can this guy get the smoke from everyone? Like he's like the villain of the world. Like every single – he has no fans. No, he definitely does. I mean everybody that's that hated has fans or they wouldn't even – trust me. But did you see the video of him eating? He's in the Kia Asylum deep. Definitely. Did you see the picture of him eating or the video of him eating? Yeah. Okay. Him shoveling? That's some of the best shit I've ever seen. Like knowing that you're being videotaped 24 hours a day and not being able to help yourself with the shovel. We've all been hungry.

43:04Don't get me wrong, but he looked like a fucking hungry, hungry hippo character. Dead ass.

43:11Jason Stewart:He has the eating habits and behavior. It's a skill issue. The reason why he's shoveling is because his opposable thumbs and dexterity are not enough to handle the silverware and eat accordingly. He's not so good with the fork and the spoon and the knife just quite yet. So we've adopted like an elementary shoveling technique. And then the irony, I think I saw like a side-by-side photo of like, because everyone is talking shit on Zoran for eating food with his bare hands, you know, in the style of some parts of the world. And then him shoveling the food over the paper plate with his bare hands, you know.

43:50When I was in Japan, I was at the sushi place solo, and the white boy next to me in like a barber jacket and fucking red-winged boots. snow there's obviously things i love too he's listening to this podcast right now was eating was eating sushi with his hands i was like bitch do not like what no you can't i eat sushi with my hands no bro sorry white boys not allowed that's just how it is man no no no no it's it's not i

44:14Jason Stewart:i think this is a skill issue and a confidence issue and it transcends race nope it's not no it does not that is that is not your same way like like this morning carolyn and i were walking around and like two local surfer guys were like telling us that the swell is good today and we should go out and we we told them you know we're not surfers and we're probably not going to go out um but i think carolyn called him bra that's unacceptable if i if i were him i would have if i were him i would have punched you because that's like you got to answer for that you better check your bitch before i check her first bro yeah i swear to god bro i'll take off this wetsuit and I'll beat your ass, okay?

44:55Jason Stewart:So my point is, she said it in a way that was 100 % subconscious, natural. That's fine. But the thing is, in her mind, it came out smooth and natural. In my mind, I was a little bit like, there was a 10 % of affectation going on. It didn't sound 100 % true. And then the same thing, white boy, if a white boy picks up that nigiri, and then takes it down in the mouth, with the right confidence, the same way they know it can sense your fear. The nigiri can sense your fear. And if you grab that bitch, dunk it, and down the hatch. I'm not saying you can't pull it off. I'm just saying to you, when you're in Japan and you're a white boy that looks like Iowa City white and you're doing that, they're laughing at you.

45:49That's all I'm saying. You can do whatever you want. I'm just telling you, The local people are laughing at you. Okay, so what about... They're like, all right, Jiro, chill out. Use the chopsticks, okay?

45:58Jason Stewart:Let's say you look like me, not an Iowa farm boy. Let's say you look like a guy like me, whatever that means. I would love for you to describe that, but we don't have time. We only have 15 minutes left. It translates to long eel sex tourism in their symbols that they would write down. In their symbols. Okay, got it. Okay. But no, chopsticks on the nigiri, it's a, it really, I don't do it because it's a cool thing of like, check this out. You can actually, you know, you can actually eat the shrimp head if it's really, you know, like it has nothing to do with that. I'm not trying to show off. It's because when I pick it up with my hands, it stays.

46:38Jason Stewart:Yeah, I agree with you. I know it's the better. When you grab it with the chopsticks, even if you're a good chopstick user. It falls apart. No, no. It can fall apart. Look, I recognize, I know that you were right. I am just telling you it's like if you walk into a bodega and you're like oh let me get a chopped cheese the Aki way please they're like alright bro alright sure it's the same they're talking shit about you it's like when I go to the you know it's once I learn once I learn Vietnamese and I get my nails done it's over you know what I mean it's a similar okay so you're saying it's giving one bacon egg and cheese sandwich please yes it's that to me that is what I think it is the correct way to do it and it definitely uh helps retain the form of the nigiri right and it's easier to eat i'm just telling you if you're going to walk in there looking like a tumblr post from 2012 you got to be careful about how you act that's the equivalent of uh your mom walking into the hard rock hotel in cancun and saying hola yeah exactly hola how are you guys so good to see you guys where can i get a quesadilla um i wanted to mention i saw a quote you posted something on twitter um there's a video of you yeah there's a video of you it looks like yeah you reposted so i don't know but it's a video of you sitting at like a restaurant you're wearing like a black shirt um and it said you you i mean i don't want to play it but you basically say i don't give a fuck about politics i just want to go do drugs and talk to bitches and i was i was a little that does sound like me that doesn't i was a little surprised that you would say that not because so you're so politically active but i know you're not a you're not a huge drug user obviously a married man so i just i wanted to know is the blowback from the stuff in miami getting to you because it feels like a reaction yeah man that i wouldn't expect from such a calm eel like eel like figure yeah i don't really i don't really club in america anymore it's just kind of torched i'm kind of like i'm in switzerland i'm in chile it really killed me that that's the that's not a quote from Jason, obviously.

48:40It's a really good scene in Indonesia right now. That's not a quote from Jason after he escapes to Bali to start his new life. You're talking about the big clav. That's big clav. And also, enemy of the show, enemy of the state, really. Well, not the state. I guess the state of how long gone. Nick Fuentes said, it would be sick to marry an OnlyFans chick. So I think these guys are sort of unraveling after their embarrassment, their bottle service. After Hitlergate? After Hitlergate, after HHgate at the club, these guys are completely unraveling.

49:16Jason Stewart:Look, you hit them where it hurts. Revoke their access to Miami nightclubs, and what do the Tate brothers have? Dude, it's been... It's removing the wasabi root from the sushi master's belt. I was really bothered by that whole thing, and now I'm like, well, maybe it's for the best because these guys seem to be unraveling and making themselves look somehow even worse, which is more entertaining for me as a bystander. Yeah. So it's sort of working out in the end. God's plan, if you will. Yeah, God's, you know, I think I said on the last episode or the one before that these people, they have 48 months to live.

49:54Jason Stewart:Like, you go down this path. Yeah, any day now one's going to die. Yeah, I mean, there's no way of leveling the plane out unless, you know, I mean, I guess if Kanye is, he's sort of like half tarring like he's doing shows in mexico and korea and like you know different markets where his his troubles and his actions are more forgiven and just he's just more far away from it you know did we talk about this that which was really interesting is that basically the the reason i think the reason kanye is able to choose certain places to still perform and and put out music etc is because they don't have the same relationship to like judaism and the holocaust yeah like they don't know like they don't it's so fascinating to me because obviously it's it's a i mean it's a giant like thing you learn in school but like not in taiwan or or whatever is how it was exposed somebody's explaining this to me like the reason these places are being chosen is not like he's spinning a globe around and you know putting his finger on the place it's like yeah it's places that what what he's done is is not as offensive because they don't know as much or they aren't as aware, I guess, maybe.

51:04Jason Stewart:Right, right. It's not because they... Embrace him. It's not, yeah. It's not, they don't have different political thoughts or whatever. They don't condone it. They're not, yeah, exactly. I just, I never even considered that. Merely a blip on the radar and also places where intense fandom exists to where you're able, you know, the pros outweigh the cons if you're down there. You don't know nothing about that. You know about the World War II, but I don't want to get into the details of it. You know what I mean? I know it happened. My teacher mentioned it, but I didn't really dig into it. I had this in my notes from a long time ago, but I never brought it up.

51:40Jason Stewart:But you know all the weird photos of Jonah Hill that have come out where everyone's like, oh, he looks so different. He's wearing the wig and the crazy clothes. Yeah, for a movie. And there are all the pictures of him saying his transformation is crazy and they'll do the before and after pic. but you know not not every place is saying that he's wearing this crazy outfit and he looks insane with his wig and goatee and all that stuff because it's for a movie and i feel like since a lot of people just are assuming that that's how he looks in real life he should release a current photo of himself so people don't think that he just like looks like zoolander or like lmfao now you know what i mean don't put it in the wire just post it on instagram stories you know me and the kids with a cupcake emoji over their face or whatever it might be you in the gym you know you doing the battle ropes or just something to where i would love to see actually me wearing a fucking uh an o 'neill or you know a body glove t-shirt and a picture of jonah hill doing the battle ropes at dog pound and a rash guard would set the world straight right now now you're right the world Street.

52:49We need Jonah back, bro. I'm ready for Jonah to come back. He's one of the great actors of our generation. The guy needs to come back. I know he's working on stuff, but it feels like it's been two decades since we've heard from him. I know the swells in Malibu are going to be absolutely gnarly. Dude, the Pacific calls, brother. We got to get you back in front of and behind the camera because it's hard out here. I think these paparazzi photos of him

53:15Jason Stewart:from the movie set means that he's doing something. He's in the lab. He's in album mode. No, he's in album mode. And God bless. Because, I mean, based on what's going on out there in Hollywood, we need all the help we can get. I think Jonah could save it, honestly. If Jonah Hill and DiCaprio link back up, everything could be fixed. You don't have to lie about numbers anymore. You don't have to worry about the China opening when you work at a post office in fucking Minneapolis. It'll just be something for the whole family to enjoy. Bring the kids and the wife onto the red carpet again. you know just because because seth rogan he's kind of he was he got all held up and won all the awards and then he got knocked down because uh what paul pamela anderson said that it was fucked up that they were sitting at the same table after he made like a fucked up movie about the worst part of her life without even talking to her about it so you know i was actually surprised to i mean obviously you can legally do that you know but like i thought i just assumed that seth rogan knew enough to know that like just because you can doesn't mean you should and the least you could do is call pam and have a chat especially if you're just going to do it anyway right like if you're just going to do it anyway you might as well call her and tell her it's like the right thing to do sort of just to be like hey just giving you a heads up not not asking for permission because you're already going to do it, but just letting them know.

54:41Jason Stewart:Yeah. I mean, I don't picture myself doing that. If I was in Seth's Hey Dudes, I would just be like, I'm going to make this movie. And then if I run into the person where I made the movie about, I'm going to go like the Jay-Z emoji and just be like, ooh, awkward sauce. And then forget about it the next day. I mean, that's fine. But that's the kind of thing where if you were going to do that and I knew that, I would tell you not to do that. And you would be like, you know what? You're right. I'll call her. Seth Rogen should have 15 people in his life That are gonna say like I see your point but I think you should call her It'll be better in the long run And it doesn't like if you're gonna do it anyway What difference does it make?

55:19Aziz gonna be like give me a call Yeah I don't understand why no one would It's a good point Maybe now he's like the boss so everybody's afraid of him You know he's like got that energy going Or like you can't tell me shit I'm the big dog but I ain't gonna cross jefe it's also like it's all like sex stuff I don't know it's just it doesn't feel super respectful to women and I know that's rich coming from me but I mean it like I just think that's like bad I think it's just bad juju like I think you should not like even if she hates you if you call her and do the right thing at least you feel like you tried

55:56Jason Stewart:yeah it does feel like the last sort of death knell of that era that he came up in where you know the objectification and slut shaming and you know the whore calling you know that was a little much you know much more commonplace back then yeah for sure and i mean i think that like obviously that stuff is for better or worse part of the public record you know what i mean like that's just what it is and like yeah when's the last time you heard anyone call anyone a slut no as in in like a non never in a derogatory literally never literally never but like when we were kids you'd be like you're a slut and then and the whole room would be like, no, that was the worst.

56:36I mean, it's the same thing with a word like cunt. You hear it all the time now, but it's not bad. It used to be like, that's the worst thing you could say. How could you say that? It's like, dude, what do you mean?

56:47Jason Stewart:I heard your dad say it when he was watching the Georgia Tech game. Hey, now, don't. Hey, now. No, no, no, no, no. He would never say that around his Tigers. Over at the Chili's, he'd be like, this awesome blossoms cunt.

57:02Wait, free refills of my diet coat?

57:04Jason Stewart:Pardon my French, Christopher. Go off, cunt. This Casadoras, skinny girl Casadoras is cunt. It's better when it's not giving or serving or blah, blah, blah. We need to bring back just regular cunt, you know? It just is. We can't say giving cunt anymore. That's half-assing. That's saying Wigga instead of Wigger. We got to go. I agree. I agree. Keep it a whole stack. A whole motherfucking stack. Speaking of gay stuff, I can't wait until we stop talking about heated rivalry, but they are the official Olympic torchbearers for the Milano Cortina Winter Olympics this year. Thank God we were able to get them that job before they - Is that the most Italian thing of all time?

57:56I mean, dude, it's honestly like I don't know how much more trotting out they can do before they have to get a job.

58:02Jason Stewart:What's more Italian than two straight guys pretending to be gay? That's Italian culture. Besides cigarettes, that's Italian culture. The only thing more Italian is two gay guys pretending to be straight? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's true. Or wearing fake designer clothing. That is also a big part of Italian culture. We don't even have to talk about scooters. No, no, no. Please. no no no all right how long gone jason uh enjoy your vacation happy birthday to caroline i hope you guys have a nice time on the big island um we will be back with more podcasts yeah congrats to caroline ellison for getting free looking like a snap free the guys little batty the guys uh she's out um first day out looking for a munch yeah i guess we'll just be back yeah we're back one-on-one and then we're back next week with some more pods i'm gonna be in la for the for the grammys and we're going to be shooting a shooting another episode of uh of our sort of uh cultural rundown um over in burbank which is exciting we're going to try to get that on a real cadence for you guys moving forward here in 2026 so about content oh and also jason my my uh my magna came today my my pack and i have to say the the lemonade iced tea the arnold palmer flavor makes me feel like I'm at a country club in Alpharetta.

59:24It feels like I'm pulling up on the cart on the 16th hole in the suburbs of Atlanta, and it feels good. I got to say.

59:30Jason Stewart:Okay, so you go up. The Arnold Palmer is in the big plastic sweaty ice-filled jug, and there's a handwritten sign, something that would appear in your mom's laundry room that says, not too sweet. Yes. Just how I like it. Not too sweet. Just how I like it. It's perfect. I was chugging it today at Equinox. like wow this is this is very nice i really like i appreciate the push from a lemon lime or you know whatever the more traditional sort of sport drink make water yummy again is the campaign chris but like i was telling you before over um aol instant messenger wait until you try that apple flavor okay i'm not an apple juice guy by by oh you're not an apple juice guy no no i'm an adult not even a martinelli sparkling on a special occasion i mean maybe when i was vegan and i I got it from, you know, Sevenanda, and it was all we could have as straight edge, you know, but you get that at Kroger, actually.

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One-on-one pod today, Chris is home in New York, and Jason is in Hawaii. We chat about Zohran Zapping those hotel fees, parking lot poke, the rebranding of fish species, how much a bottle of Veuve costs in Hawaii, Chris hates the iOS update, Harry Styles doing 30 nights at MSG, Steak & Shake Bitcoin equity, the Timmy Chalamet "wigga" article, Michael Rappaport shoveling food into his mouth, not everyone is allowed to bare-hand sushi, big Clav in the club, why Kanye does his shows where he does them, some advice for Jonah Hill, and the Heated Rivalry fellas put the "bear" in Torch Bearer.

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