899. - Jennifer Venditti

8:58Jason Stewart:Fuck it.

8:58Jennifer Venditti:Which makes sense for their time dominating culture was parallel. So it's cool to take MIA on tour, or is it like a Kid Cudi thing? It just doesn't matter because it's him.

9:10Jason Stewart:I don't know. I mean, it could be a little bit of a favor deal. Maybe Kid Cudi isn't aware of her tinfoil 5G.

9:17Jennifer Venditti:Once again, someone in the team. I know Kid Cudi's been painting and smoking cigarettes with his white wife at the YSL show.

9:25Jason Stewart:There's a blue-haired creative art director who flagged MIA, I'm sure, somewhere.

9:31Jennifer Venditti:That seems like somebody somewhere would be. I mean, whatever. I obviously have no dog in the fight.

9:36Jason Stewart:It is a mystery because even though Kid Cudi is probably close to 40 years old right now, if not 40, it makes you wonder who goes to see him in concert in 2026. Because I feel like his fan base is just perpetually 19-year-olds.

9:52Jennifer Venditti:It's guys who go to Sneaker Con. It's definitely a bape crowd, but I agree with you. I wonder if it's people our age that grew up with that, if it's Jim Jones fans.

10:05Jason Stewart:Because the sneaker.

10:07Jennifer Venditti:Guy's paying cash.

10:08Jason Stewart:If he had Jim Jones opening for M.I.N. select cities.

10:13Jennifer Venditti:See, that's some 4D chess shit right there. That would be smart. Get your Kid Cudi tickets everywhere. Tickets are sold. Live Nation, baby. All right, we have a guest today. Jennifer Venditti is a casting director who lives here in New York. she obviously is most known right now for Marty Supreme but she did Euphoria, Uncut Gems she made her own short film she did a book with A24

10:36Jason Stewart:also our dear friend Charlie XCX's film The Moment in theaters next week

10:42Jennifer Venditti:I didn't realize she did that actually

10:44Jason Stewart:according to her Instagram maybe she's just showing love that'd be cool but she's posting The Moment I'm just showing love

10:50Jennifer Venditti:I just want to show love to all my cast movies out there

10:54Jason Stewart:I'm gonna see I'm gonna ask Venditti Why I didn't get the invite To the fucking screening And you look pretty weird

11:01Jennifer Venditti:That's the thing You have a character face As your work in music videos Would prove I would say

11:08Jason Stewart:Yeah I want her to be like Damn Have you ever been like Cast in something? You have a funky look

11:15Jennifer Venditti:We're doing a We're doing an EDM movie And I feel like there's something for you Alright Alright Let's give her a call this episode of how long gone is brought to you by squarespace if you don't have a website you're a damn idiot without one you're losing in business and life and pleasure and thankfully for all of the luddites out there our friends at squarespace can help you build the perfect worldwide web home

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14:21Jennifer Venditti:We can get into it. But I mean, I think that at least Sundance doesn't have the 17-minute standing ovations. Oh, my God. Do not get me started. And I went to Venice, you know, this time for Smashing Machine. And I'm sitting in the middle of this. And I'm like, I can't believe I'm, like, taking part of this. and then I look to the right of me and I see Seth Rogen standing there with the camera and I'm like, yes, the studio is going to fucking do something on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was saying this years ago and it feels like now everyone knows. So I'm like, why is everyone still doing it when we all know it's not real?

15:00Jennifer Venditti:You tell me, Hollywood Insider. We don't have the answers. I'll tell you. Okay. We're in stereo. All right, there you go. Wow, you have these headphones positioned in a crazy way, too. I like that you're going kind of straight in.

15:13Jason Stewart:Well, Chris, don't get in your head about it because the microphone on her headphones, I just want to make sure it doesn't brush against your hair, which will cause some feedback sounds. Now you're asking me to redo my look? No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, we need a full. If you could put on a hat, that would be better for us. Are you married to this roll neck or is there another? We're not feeling the blue.

15:36Jennifer Venditti:Jennifer I feel like You've positioned your computer Inside of a plant I know We're not doing video though right No but I just found it like an interesting choice That wasn't about The show I like to incorporate nature whenever I can It's very grounding

15:54Jason Stewart:I think that's so important So is the plant Does it look like it's dying because you've been so busy Casting awesome A24 films Shut up I am like an incredible plant mother caretaker. Are you a plant mama? I am. I have major plants. This is not amateur hour. I've got major plants. The plants are huge. Wait, is this? We started recording already.

16:18Jennifer Venditti:Oh, we... What is a tremendous plant to you, just size-wise? Do you want me to take you on a tour? No. Don't pick up your computer. I have... Size. size oh no no i'll say two things i'm gonna say two sorry no no no no it's not just size but it's also longevity i think that's actually more important so so so it's both girth and length

16:46Jason Stewart:is what you're saying yeah oh longevity in terms of life but how often so you you're saying that

16:53Jennifer Venditti:you don't have you're saying you do all the plant care taking yourself though you don't have no i I have to say, no, most of the time, but my life has been hijacked. So now I direct. I'm a good delegator. But no, I've been very involved. I have not had people taking care of my plants through their lifespan. But right now, sometimes it gets hijacked. And right now, it's especially hijacked. That's fine. No, no. There's no shame in that. But it isn't like I got plants and then I just have someone come in and do it all. No. I got them to this stage. I raised them.

17:25Jason Stewart:You don't have like a hot 22-year-old guy? come over to your house every Wednesday? I wish. I've raised them, and now someone helps.

17:34Jennifer Venditti:Okay, so you raised them, and now they're kind of off at college, and someone else is... Yes, exactly. You just see the credit card bills and can't believe it.

17:44Jason Stewart:It's important that they fail on their own over at Barnard or wherever they're at Plant Vassar. Plant Vassar. They're at Bard down the street. Show me the lie, homie.

17:55Jennifer Venditti:Wow, you're upstate? I've always wanted to like have nature in my life but I always thought with my job I never could and I'm not one of those people like I want to have a house that I'm never at you know like I want to live in the place so my my job specifically is like you have to be in person and so that changed that so that's like what opened it up for me it wasn't just like oh I want to get out of the city I've always wanted to but I just never thought my job would I've always wanted to get out of the city first and foremost no no but i do and it's made me love the city more you know but i think i was someone that i grew up in the midwest all like my parents i went on a trip to new york when i was i don't know like in middle school i even before that i grew up in minnesota do i dare say i feel like saying that now it's like wow we're minnesota lovers pre-ice issues i know but now saying it it's like wow it's so like yeah okay wait well you

18:51Jason Stewart:You could still love Minnesota and hate ICE and hate our government. Exactly. So the, why am I saying this? Oh, so like it was weird. You know how you have like thoughts as a kid and I don't know where it came. I didn't come from like sophisticated culture parents that were like into the arts or into all that. But I knew I had like a vision that I was going to live in New York City, like in a loft when I was a little kid.

19:15Jennifer Venditti:That's before you saw the prices on those lofts. This is Friends era. You know, that's the problem. you thought that me and four of my friends can live in the west village with 5 000 square feet it's gonna be amazing this was this was sort of party girl era the film totally this is the 90s yeah and so then then when i like was in middle school or something we took like a family trip and we came and i'm like oh i am living here for sure and because you know i grew up in an area where i didn't get to see lots of different kinds of people and so i was like i've said this in so many interviews and stuff but i like was an obsessive people watcher and i was dying to see how other people lived in different types of people and different kinds of people and it just

19:56Jason Stewart:wasn't happening and you were living in in minnesota before the four seasons went in yes minnesota omaha nebraska omaha detroit michigan okay so all like midwestern so you had a lot a rich diverse cast of white people to choose from is what you're saying except for detroit when we moved to the suburb of Detroit I hate to say it I'd sneak out at night like we would go out and drive to Detroit and it would be like I was like oh finally something um but anyways my point was I got to New York City and it was just like I say this all the time I didn't go see movies I just like watched people I was like this is amazing like I will never get tired of this

20:40Jennifer Venditti:thank god you get thank god you get paid for it I mean at least okay but upstate I don't know I I don't feel like it's you. I know. Isn't it crazy? Well, first of all, where I live, where I live is there's a lot happening. Like I always say my social life here is the same as like in the city. It's like 15 minutes. I'm not going to say it on this podcast. But anyways, where I live. I know where you. I'm sure. So there's a vibe. You mean there's a lot of gay guys with antique stores? No. It's so amazing. No. No, no, no, no. My friend, Melissa Optumour, X-Hole. Oh, yeah. She's coming on the pod. We're trying to work it out right now.

21:16Jennifer Venditti:Oh, yes! Known baddie. I'll tell her. You guys, her memoir is coming out in March, and it's going to be major.

21:25Jason Stewart:I have a feeling that's why she's coming on our podcast. Yeah, and her and Courtney just had a reunion yesterday. I saw that. I did see that. Anti-heroine? Is that what it's called? The doc?

21:36Jennifer Venditti:Yeah, I saw there was a clip going around.

21:39Jason Stewart:Oh, like anti-hero, but make it female and druggie? Okay. Well, someone, they premiered this at Sundance yesterday. Everybody just got to. Anyways, Melissa's been up here forever, and she has a place called Basilica, which is like an arts, nonprofit art thing. And it's amazing music, film, culture, drone, all these interesting things. So it's not the gay antique.

22:02Jennifer Venditti:So you're telling me there's no gay antique stores within a 10-mile radius? I have never heard of this. I've never heard of this. What does this you speak of? I've never heard of rich gay guys moving upstate and opening Antiquia. I've never heard of that. This is news to me. Where are you guys from? I'm from Atlanta, but I live in New York. Okay. You don't have to be embarrassed about it. I'm not embarrassed about it. This is the only place worth living. I can't even imagine living anywhere else.

22:28Jason Stewart:I'm from Orange County, California. Proud resident, but I live in Los Angeles now. And you love it? I live upstate SoCal. Yeah, of course I love it. I mean, LA and New York, two best cities. I just happen to live in. And how did you guys meet? What's your guys' connection? For the new listeners, I'm helping you out here. You're bringing a lot of new ears to us, and we thank you for that, JV. For all our A24 gold card holders, they're going to really get in.

22:54Jennifer Venditti:I'm going to help you understand the backstory. No, we met years ago because Jason was DJing in Atlanta. But at this point, it's been 15 or 16 years, I think.

23:02Jason Stewart:We met in the club. Yeah, basically. To put it bluntly, Jennifer.

23:06Jennifer Venditti:Which I'm sure you've met many of your friends as well as people you've hired in clubs. I know. Doesn't that seem crazy now, though? When was your headiest New York nightlife era? Well, when I first moved to New York, was it like Limelight and Club USA or whatever? Okay. Club USA now does sound like a secret speakeasy at Mar-a-Lago. I know. I know. Wait, what was yours? It's a Costco rewards card. Mine was a little later than that. Mine was lit. Oh, yeah, lit. I did that too. Black and white. That was the first place I DJed in New York was Lit Lounge. But I imagine you kept it going. That was early on, but that was early 90s.

23:55I'm trying to think all the places. I prefer small. I preferred small gatherings. What was the place? Don Hill? Sure. Don Hill.

24:04Jennifer Venditti:You prefer a more intimate setting. I do. In general life, that's my thing.

24:08Jason Stewart:You're like a little booth where we can do a little bump and nobody has to get up. Yeah, I need to go deep. Otherwise, I'm like, what's the point here?

24:17Jennifer Venditti:Cocaine's perfect for you because it really makes you talk a lot. Oh, no. No. Hate. Hate. Hate? That is my like, no.

24:24Jason Stewart:Really? I don't like speed. I love we're talking about this. People I do not do. I'll just say, if I was going to do anything, it would be hallucinogenic. Okay. Mommy likes to go down, not up. Okay, so what's your relationship with Xanax? Nothing. I've never done it. What? Not even on a plane.

24:43Jennifer Venditti:I can tell you're a turntown chick, and I like it. I feel like you're operating like this all the time, no matter what. Oh, my God. You know what? That is amazing you say that, because I don't drink. And people get, like, I was just at a dinner the other night, and this guy was like, he was French, and he just could not take it, that I would not take the wine. And I was like, dude, I am already there. Like, I don't need it.

25:05Jason Stewart:You're like, slow down, Bill Cosby. I'm not going to. Yeah, exactly. But I'm also like, I'm like, I don't need it. I'm already there. Like, it is true.

25:12Jennifer Venditti:I'm sorry you had to sit next to a French person. That's tough for everybody. You said, I don't need the Chenin Blanc.

25:17Jason Stewart:I am Chenin Blanc. Motherfucker. I am embodied. Yeah.

25:21Jennifer Venditti:You're turnt up. You're turnt up. I can tell. So what do you do when you're upstate? Because it's boring as hell. No, it's not. I like hiking. First of all, I love animals. Like, I'm obsessed with that. Are you casting ducks out there? You casting ducks yet? How many nasty little dogs do you have right around? Do not. These are, do not speak of these spiritual leaders amongst us. God backwards, I always say. Uh-oh. Spiritual leaders? No, oh my God, I love, you don't like animals? We're going to have to end this right now. Do you hate God? I don't hate them. I just can't believe people have them as pets.

25:57Wait, are you a cat person or you're just a no cat person?

25:59Jennifer Venditti:Cat person? What the fuck? That's the meanest thing anybody's ever seen. This is more of a reptile guy. You better be prepared. When Melissa comes on here, she's obsessed with cats. Yeah, women can be obsessed with cats. Men can't be obsessed with cats. Okay, there are men that are, though. Keep an eye on them. Don't let them around your kids.

26:15Jason Stewart:Yeah, that sounds dangerous to me. Wait, both of you don't like dogs?

26:20Jennifer Venditti:No, Jason likes dogs.

26:21Jason Stewart:I have two dogs. Okay, so you get it.

26:24Jennifer Venditti:Oh, yes. I would say that actually, Jason, now that we're talking about it, Jason has dogs, but I'm not even sure if he likes them necessarily.

26:31Jason Stewart:Okay, my relationship with dogs is I have two dogs. I've never acquired them myself. It's been through a person that I'm dating. You rescued? Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. They're all rescues, Jennifer, but it's one of those situations. Captain Sabaho. Your girlfriends are gateways to dogs for you.

26:51Jennifer Venditti:Captain Sabaho gets himself a dog by accident.

26:53Jason Stewart:Yeah, I say, oh, you want a ring? How about a dog? wait and then you end up keeping them after you break up well i mean yeah so like my wife and i she she had a a dog for a long time the dog is like 17 now an old wise dog that she's had for you know 15 of those 17 years so i inherited this dog so the dog is mine as well and then we got a covid rescue puppy but chris's point is like i love the dogs they're amazing also a pain in the ass also cost me a lot of money and you know if if they were both gone tomorrow i would not cry about it but i do love them seriously yeah seriously you feel like you wouldn't i want to know when they die i want you i want to check in with you because i feel like you think that i'll facetime you from the i'll facetime you from the execution i just don't know i just don't you

27:45Jennifer Venditti:know i but what is your what makes you like it the mess the money oh no no no i like first of all have you guys listened to the telepathy tapes at all no okay i you guys you haven't had a guess like me um anyway all right slow down how how wide open is your third eye

28:05Jason Stewart:you said you don't do drugs jv i am drugs i'll fuck you up let's go you want to get into it Okay, wait. No, the communication. So you're saying that you and your dogs speak to each other telepathically? Yes, for sure. The dog says, I have to pee, and you go, time to pee. Sorry, go ahead. I think it's the purest. There's a couple things. I think what I experience with dogs or animals is a real sense of presence. It just brings you to this place of presence. Because they don't have TikTok yet. Exactly. And none of the, like, if you think about communication, a lot of communication is just us trying to, like, prove ourselves to someone or, like, I want you to think this about me or I'm trying to make you feel this or I'm not.

28:48It's like with animals, it's not like that. It's just pure. It goes straight to the connection. And there's none of the other stuff. And so it's this feeling of it's like a deep connection you can't really have with, like, a human. And it's really pure and it's really present. and it's like it's the only form of unconditional love too there's no they'll fucking love you no

29:09Jason Stewart:matter what do you think there's some dogs out there that don't love their owners because they think they're ugly i mean i've really seen it you see these dogs that are abused and they still love them that's what's so sad there's their hearts are so pure i i believe all the things

29:25Jennifer Venditti:that you were saying but the downsides are just too great what are what are the down well and And also, I do have to say, what do you think the downsides are? The dirtiness of it is number one. Are you like an OCD clean person? Not even. I just am like, why would I do that to myself if I don't have to? I mean, it's like anything else. It's like, what's the unconditional love? Unconditional love versus a little bit of dirt. Not a little bit of dirt. I can't see that sweater that closely, but there's hair all over it. No, because mine's non-hypoallergenic. Oh, okay. So you don't have a rescue. You went and paid five grand.

30:02No, no, no. I have a rescue, but I don't have a shedding big. I have a hypoallergenic. He's a rescue.

30:08Jason Stewart:What kind of dog is your hybrid model? Oh my God. Sarge and Sharge. I'll show you a picture. But also just side note what I'll tell you what else just happened. I love that this is our conversation. Zoe, are you dying? This is what we're going to talk about the whole time. Yeah, we're going to get into other stuff too. Don't worry. okay cool so no i'm fine talking like this i hope people interesting okay what i'm gonna tell you nobody gives a fuck about marty supreme anymore we don't hear about doll exactly everyone's so okay so the thing i want to tell you that just happened that my dog initiated obviously for me that was like a life-changing kind of experience was okay so he's like a 20 pound poodle like not poodle he's like a mix he's like a mutt anyways we were walking the other day and or this was like a couple months ago and i like to consider myself like a highly attuned kind of sensitive person i'm walking I'm talking on the phone.

31:12And I see out of the corner of my eye, like two massive 150 pounds each pit bulls, awfully charging towards us.

31:22Jason Stewart:Uh-oh. You guys. A pack of wild dogs rushing towards you. Yes, exactly. Rushing towards me. And I'm like on the phone. I throw my phone and my instinct, because I'm just like, it was like. You said sell, sell. i pick my instinct was because i've had like you know you pick the object up that they're wanting to get yeah instinctively i know i picked my own dog i picked sarge yeah you pick you pick the 20 pound dog up you lift it over your head the pit bulls then have their way with your thighs and arms and stuff so i normally that works the dog just just like bark and it's like oh the thing they want is gone but in this case i guess it's not the thing to do because the pit bulls are insane i picked him up and you guys no joke these two massive dogs jumped on top of me chewed him i can't even talk about makes me cry chewed him out of my arms jesus and basically began to murder him in front of me and just like no i can't even talk about it like ragdoll chewing him like and i thought in my head i can't believe this is the day what and you didn't have your gun on you Listen, no.

32:33Oh, my God. I'm like, this is the day my dog is going to die. I can't believe it. Like, I did not wake up this morning and think I'm going to see my dog be murdered. And something in me, there was a part of me that was just like, there's nothing I can do. And then something clicked. And I went, I mean, it's not smart. Everyone's like, I can't believe you did this and you survived. I just like went ballistic. And I got in there and I don't know how I did it. I fucking pulled him out, ran to my car, ran to urgent care, cut to, to make a long story short. They pulled his leg out of his hip socket.

33:12It was like by like six inches. They thought his pelvis was broken. They thought all these things were wrong, but basically he couldn't move for six weeks. And they tried to like just get it to back in there so they didn't have to amputate it. But the point is he's fine now. Wow. But I saved my dog. I took on two pit bulls. I'm proud of you for that.

33:34Jennifer Venditti:I hope you have an open carry license for moving forward. And I have nothing, no scars, nothing to show for it. My question to you is not, I'm happy that your dog is alive, and I'm happy that you were able to save him or her. Him. Sarge. Him. But my follow-up question is, what was the urgent care bill? You know what my follow-up question is? Who's the owner of those other dogs?

33:56Jason Stewart:Yeah, my follow-up question is how many days until you had both of those pit bulls executed as a dog lover? Well, exactly. I'm still on it. This guy, this guy. First of all, I never knew there was such a thing as a dog controller. That's what you learn when you're in small towns. There's something called a dog controller. That's who you report these things to.

34:18Jennifer Venditti:What? You're telling me that our tax dollars are paying for a dog controller? This is the problem with fucking America. This is the problem. Zoron's New York. We're talking about Zohan's car heart. But this is upstate. This is upstate, not on the city. This would have ever happened in the city. There wouldn't be two pit bulls off leash. I have to say. I think it's not. So anyways, I call the dog controller. And I kid you not, the one thing about a small town, everyone is on the case to find this guy. Yeah. And he basically was seen all the time. And now, I mean, I think he moved. I think he knows his dogs are going to be taken away.

34:56Jennifer Venditti:He knew this fucking city slicker with a little bit of extra cash was after him. And he knew she's litigious. I heard she's litigious. Okay.

35:03Jason Stewart:So he fled to Chile and we need to go extradite him. Literally. They literally have put cameras everywhere. Everyone's mine. I know. It's like amazing. It's like the biggest thing that's ever happened. Everyone is on the case. This is a little kind of dog gone girl, A24. We're sniffing around right now. It sounds like a nice little whodunit. So the point is, he didn't pay the bill. I paid the bill. Oh, I knew you paid the bill.

35:27Jennifer Venditti:I want to know the total of the bill is what I'm asking. It was a bite and run. I'm not saying. I'm not saying. Was it more or less than 5 ,000 USD? Around. Okay. That's the kind of shit I'm not looking to take a hit on, to be honest. That's what I'm talking about. You would have said just... Yeah, I'd be like, well, maybe it's time.

35:44Jason Stewart:Well, I think the worst problem is when I have friends who are like, yeah, I just got a new dog, and then I went to work, and I came back, and he ate four garbage bags and I had to have them surgically removed and it cost me seven grand or something like that. You just hear stories like that all the time. In addition to picking up the feces, the dog hair, the vets, the worms, the dog sitting.

36:05Jennifer Venditti:If it makes you this happy, then by God, you should do whatever you want. Man, that is so crazy. So the back story real quick of what you asked, the question was, what do you do up there? So I love hiking. I love being with dogs. But I also, my life is so, I have so much stimulation that there is something about when I come here, I'm like able to kind of like integrate and just have a little bit. Because otherwise you just, it's so intense, everything, you know? I agree. I agree. I like that, but I probably could use a little bit of this in my life, you know? This is what I'm saying. So maybe this will inspire you.

36:40And it's close and I'm always in the city. Like, and it's so, it's like the combo. I think it's about the combo. I would never want to live like this all the time. I don't think, you know, but I do think that we don't realize when you're in the city all the time, like, whoa.

36:56Jennifer Venditti:Well, especially right now when it's snow and ice, it's, um, it's a humbling. It's been a humbling week. I would say over here in the big apple. Right. Yeah. I just came back yesterday. So I was in the city. I think the city though, it's kind of nice when that happens. It like slowed down. It slows down. Everything stops. Like on Sunday. I was in Sundance and I had to do the mad dash. Like I was supposed to stay longer, but I couldn't get snowed in there because literally where would you stay? Like once you're, everything is so sold out that if you don't leave. What do you, all right. So when you're at parks, when you're at Sundance, there's obviously the stuff that you worked on.

37:29Jennifer Venditti:Yeah. Do you waste your time seeing these other fucking indie flicks? I saw, I saw, you know what? The thing that it sounds crazy, but like I went to scab recently. I love seeing movies at film festivals. It's so good. Cause everyone's so engaged. So the theater, the audience is you experience viewing something different because everyone's so it's not just people trying to get away from their wives and eat a pound of sour patch kids it's people who care it's yeah and you feel it like the in the the presence again in the what and the watching the film is so electric that like it makes the viewing experience you know they say a conversation or like a talk or speech is only as good as the listening container is because if no one's listening, the energy of the listening makes the speaker better.

38:18And it's the same thing of like watching a movie. It's like if there's no audience, it's like there's a reciprocal energetic exchange between the two. So I find watching movies in a festival experience to be very exhilarating in some way. And so, but I'm not going to say anything about Sundance. I have to be careful i can't talk too loosely with you guys but i did i can tell because i would easily do that and then i would regret it later um but so all i will say is i saw the history of concrete

38:48Jennifer Venditti:and i'm obsessed with have you guys spoken to him no i i'm i'm not in on that stuff i'm i sent him

38:55Jason Stewart:a i sent him a dm a couple years ago saying hey i'm a big fan yeah would you like to come on the podcast and he didn't, he left me on red.

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41:07Jennifer Venditti:It's a documentary though, correct? About concrete. Yeah. It does sound good. And I'll tell you, it's making me scared of New York City. And I'm like, you've now given me a complex. That's the most interested I've been in any of his work. I'll say that. It does sound good. It sounds cool. I feel like you might be. Yeah. So that was enlightening and a little bit terrifying and interesting. And then what else did I see? I saw the other things I didn't realize, because I hadn't been to Sundance in a while. I was like, if you don't get there early, they give away your seat. So it's like I got to things too late.

41:43I missed out on a lot. But I was there for the moment. And I was there for this small Korean film called Bedford Park, which was very powerful to see that in the movie. there i feel like i read about i feel like i read about betford park yeah it's this guy and it's this like he's like a big movie star in korea sunsuko and he's just amazing in it they're both like korean it's really about that experience of the kids of immigrant parents and i feel but it but it's also about outsiders it's like if you're an immigrant child of a child of immigrants it will touch you but i think if you just feel like disconnected and broken and an outsider it also will speak to you and it's very it's very intimate and it's very it was very

42:24Jennifer Venditti:emotional i thought it was great okay did you wear uh the moment puffer jacket or no i know i did not i did not engage i feel like i feel like i saw it after i didn't see them until after they were cute though i thought they were let me ask you a question let me ask you a question so something like this who who's got to deal with kylie jenner is that you okay no i want to give the credit where credit credits do i mean aiden really facilitated that and it took forever but i mean i like dealt with her people sure but but but but aiden really brought that home so she's so aiden obviously knows her aiden's super close yeah yeah so he planted the seed but it took a while when it comes down to it at that point when you're dealing with her people they've been told to do it so it's not like there's some insane negotiation or is it still oh yeah no no no no they were like that's not for money but i just mean in general you know what i mean like i mean there were certain logistical things but i have to say like that once she like agreed to do it i feel like they were really they she really like worked with us and like i mean it's good for her was really accommodating i yeah and i don't want to say what it was she did but she like did something to make it easier for us and like yeah i feel like she really leaned in and made it easy because it could have been like oh my god 5 000 bodyguards and this and that and you know i feel like she really leaned in and i don't know if you guys have seen it yet but like she's funny and she's really like i said to her comedic timing was like i thought she was really funny and really um the kardashians are pros at the end of the day or the jenners i should say i've watched every episode of the kardashians has ever aired and i saw this for her to be honest i didn't want to say i didn't want to take credit no chloe but she's got decent chops okay but she does that's what i said and i said to her and she even said she is interested in doing comedy i'm like well you have like natural talk it's so crazy because i haven't i've watched some of them you think yeah you think chloe is the star of the family i know i know i haven't i haven't been able to digest much of her podcast but the episode where she went to nashville to talk to dolly parton is it i saw that i saw that i know and she's like the woman of the people it's

44:35Jason Stewart:like but if kylie jenner is is doing comedies in the future what are ugly people gonna do you know That's all they got. You're keeping ugly people's pockets full.

44:48Jennifer Venditti:And that's goddammit. It's a service. You need to get more credit for that. It's a real thing, though. I'd like to reframe this. Please. It's called a unique face, Chris. It's called expanding how we see beauty. It's expanding our ideas of beauty. Just kidding. What? Hold on. No, you're absolutely right. And I see it as beauty. I do not see it as ugly. I think there's a spectrum of beauty, and I think we've been living, not now as much, but when I first started doing what I do, I started in passion, and my whole thing was, wait, what? You're only showing this much beauty? There's so much more beauty here.

45:31Jennifer Venditti:I think with fashion, I would agree with you because somebody can look amazing and not have to talk, whereas acting, you can look amazing and unique and weird, but you still got to deliver something, which is a little bit harder. Don't come for Sydney, Sweeney. You're like that, Chris. So I just have to say that, you know, beauty, that kind of beauty, that it's just beauty and nothing else. It's like, it doesn't, it's not, there's really nothing there. It's not, it can be just, if you're just like traditionally beauty and there's nothing else to offer, that gets old very quickly.

46:08Jason Stewart:A scoop of chocolate ice cream, delicious after a while you know you don't want to eat it day after day well that's why that's why

46:15Jennifer Venditti:i was luckily fat growing up and i've had to develop a personality so were you were you do you still have that like because i hear that it's like you're just once a fat you still have the

46:24Jason Stewart:personality that was gone it's gone that was well that was a low blow i would say i think i thought

46:28Jennifer Venditti:i thought it was pretty obvious that i had no uh do you still feel like you're a fat kid though that's yeah definitely i think everybody should be fat though i think it's the most character building thing that can happen to you that's a cool that's an interesting as long as you can

46:41Jason Stewart:as long as you can overcome it in some way yeah people say you should always like everyone should work in like a like a service industry job like yes work at a restaurant or work retail and ideally if possible be fat you know because you really see the world in a different way you become

46:56Jennifer Venditti:empathetic yeah luckily for me i was fat and i worked retail so i've had as much character building And you had the PhD of character. And he had no hoes. Yeah. Wait, what was the wake up? What was the wake up? I mean, it was mostly just getting a little older. You just grew out of it.

47:12Jason Stewart:It's the same thing that happened. You turn, you know, you could do whatever you want. You can go out, party, eat, whatever you want. And then at a certain point in your 20s, you get a little money. You're going out to dinners. You're drinking. You're doing drugs. And then your body says, uh-uh-uh. And then you wake up and you're 40 pounds overweight. Yeah, yeah.

47:31Jennifer Venditti:Luckily, this was all done before I was out of high school, basically. So yours was like baby fat or whatever. Yeah, but I was a big guy, and people let me know that on a daily basis to the point where I've said things that I regret. He was a husky snacker. I was a husky. Don't take me to the husky section. I'll eat. Did you eat a lot? That's what I'm saying. Was there a correlation? Were you in the closet? I don't think I ate a lot, but I think that we've talked about this. Yeah, I was eating. I was in the closet.

47:56Jason Stewart:Is there a correlation between overeating and weight gain? I'm starting to see a trend happening were you in the closet? yeah I was in the closet eating Oreos do you know some people it's like a weird metabolism hormonal thing and it's like they try they try to use that excuse

48:12Jennifer Venditti:but yeah they're eating pizza in their bed my generation or my age group I'm 43 so I bet people that are probably like 40 to 48 at this point I think that there was just a different I think like fast food was it like now fast food's like this cute reward for everyone but when we were growing up fast food was like no that's what we just eat no i i remember this is so crazy the things you like remember but i remember i had this friend who was divorced her parents were divorced her mom was like a lawyer she was a single mom and every day she would pick her up from school and they would go to the mcdonald's drive-thru after and i was so jealous i thought i was like yeah my parents wouldn't do that and now I realize like it was like child abuse but I was so jealous I was like this girl has like the best life ever and you realize like that was crazy she's no longer with us I'm sure my mom my mom famously drank like eight cokes a day because it was just like it wasn't no one was talking about it being bad it wasn't it was just like what you did it's yummy yeah there was no diabetes I'm sure no my mom is thank god snatched and that's that that bodes well for me but I just I just think that that era Linda's looking better than ever I think that era people were just eating crazy because there was no but you're right you're right now it's like a thing like go and Instagram it like it's like I want to investigate yeah I want to do an investigation about how now like upper middle class white people have romanticized going to Raisin Cane's and In-N-Out and Chick-fil-A because I don't know I just don't that's not what I think of is like a little treat personally but i also think it's just good i think it's a little treat

49:53Jason Stewart:you know you're you you go out to the club till two in the morning you hit the drive-thru get some chicken nuggets and some fries and some barbecue chipotle ranch that's a treat right

50:03Jennifer Venditti:yes no it is a treat i think of treats as sweet which is my doubt that's my problem sweet treat you're tall aren't you yeah i'm like 5 10 well how'd you know you just knew by how i put my hands up well jason's six nine so we we've never you're as tall as it gets i think as far as female guests go wait how tall are you i'm six nine chris's chris's six four so we're like a basketball team but how could you tell i was tall because i put my hand up i just had a feeling about you honestly i could just you have you have long features wait we i have tall person energy you have tall person there's a confidence that comes with being tall that most you know some shorty don't have.

50:42Jennifer Venditti:Yeah, you got big dick energy. Big dick swinging over here. You came in swinging.

50:48Jason Stewart:She lives upstate, but the dick is in the city.

50:53Jennifer Venditti:Somewhere around Jersey Turnpike. Alright, so... Jennifer, if I go into your office...

51:00Jason Stewart:What's the name of the WNBA team in Minnesota, Jennifer? I just think it's important that women... Don't set me up. Don't set me up.

51:08Jennifer Venditti:Alright, so your office is in Soho. Wait. Newsflash. Oh, I thought that was the whole thing. It was. Oh, you moved it. Just 20, or no, 18 years. You better not have gone to WSA. I'm going to fucking freak out. Oh my God, Chris, I'm obsessed with you. Did you get a W? No, I didn't, but I was so close. You made the right decision. And one of the girls that works for me came to look and she's like, you cannot betray yourself like this. She's like, this is not you. Give her a raise. I don't know her, but give her a raise. She was like, Jen, this is so not you. And I'm like, but the spa and the thing.

51:47Like, I want to go. I want to go to that. And she's just like.

51:49Jason Stewart:Don't be tempted. I got so tempted. And thank God. I mean, I feel bad because I want to go to the spa. So anyone listening, I still want to go.

51:57Jennifer Venditti:You can still go to the spa. I'm sure they'll accept your U.S. tender. But you moved the office. Yeah. And it's so great. It's like, it's like, I really have good real estate karma. Because this is, it's not a traditional. Like, I've never had like traditional. It feels like they feel, I have to say, they're cool. i have a cool what what level of hoarder are you though when moving office not at all i'm like a the problem is like when when we first moved like i was in the stare at lehigh building before martha stewart before that became cool when it was like a rundown weird i've had really good like real estate karma in these like cool places and i remember when i moved from there to the place in soho and i was like oh i'm gonna like make it nice and i had so many polaroids so many polaroids so many Polaroids like I mean just like shit tons of Polaroids and I remember like wanting to get rid of stuff and I still regret it to this day I kept tons of Polaroids how do you how do you store them do you store them in like baseball card books or boxes boxes I used to have books I used to have this insane sleeves that's what I would imagine with an insane like walk-in library you couldn't believe it it was like a art installation and they were all like alphabetical And it was just like, because we used to, that's how we used to do this.

53:09It's like the kids that work for me now can't believe it. It's like I'd get a casting job. You bring the books down, go through the things. Oh, this person could be good. This person could be good. Like I had hundreds and hundreds of books. And then when we do like a scouting job, we'd go scouting, like, you know, whatever all over the world, get the Polaroids, put, make a Polaroid book. And then FedEx like five of them to send to Prada or whatever in Milan. and then they're going through the books of polaroid scouting like this i mean it was so

53:38Jason Stewart:expensive and you're just hoping that the the phone number on the back of the polaroid is still the correct exactly for the person or whatever and we'd have like an assembly line making these books together it's like so crazy but anyway so i i did throw like a little bit of a bag out and i remember when i was making my book can i ask you a question the art and alchemy of great book amazing available available in all bookstores and online don't worry you go to a24 and get your you know

54:02Jennifer Venditti:You can get your little apron and your hat and your pizza cutter and your sweatband, but they also have books over there. And the book is very good. I mean, I have to say I'm very proud of it. No, it's an amazing book. And I think that that style of book is so much more like the Sofia Coppola book or, you know, there's a Chloe Sevigny when coming. Like that style of book is so interesting to look. I don't know. For me, that's like a very fun way to look at something. And we put the, so the work that that took though, it was like a lot of work. imagine like the amount of so when I when I my point was is that I was a little bit like not a hoarder I wanted to get rid of things and clean and blah blah blah and now I'm so glad that I kept all that because when I went to go make the book it was like I had so much you know what I

54:44Jason Stewart:mean so that's a good for all of our hoarder listeners out there if your partner is threatening to leave you just say like just wait until the book or the gallery I always said I was gonna of a gallery show exactly but i do i i do have to say i am an organized person that saves certain things i'm not like i was talking about my friend melissa like she is she has probably every ticket stub of everything they ever did on tour and everything like no i'm not you're not a hoarder you're an archivist exactly yes jason that's that's too i'm somewhere in between but i think

55:15Jennifer Venditti:i'm not an alcoholic i like mixology i just no i like the orange peel on fire it has nothing to do with alcohol it's just a fun thing to do okay jennifer i want to i want to talk a little bit

55:26Jason Stewart:about people watching because i know that's one of chris and my favorite pastimes as well i recall you know the some of the first times i'll go and hang out in new york with chris we would sit on the bench at balthazar and just look at all the freaks go by and i think nowadays because of our traveling schedule the airport is probably our favorite people watching place would you agree with that or do you have other hot spots that was that was my favorite back in the day when we ate ourselves of like when people could actually bring people to the gate yeah yeah oh my god you saw some epic like people that were never going to see each other again or you know like their breakups or like when people would be waiting on the gate for the person to get off the thing like make out sessions you cannot like like just next level like then Al-Qaeda fucked that all up, didn't it?

56:17I know. I mean, I was little then. Never forget. Yeah. Also, Jennifer, really quick,

56:22Jason Stewart:could you move your hair back behind your ear on the microphone side? It was just getting a little static. Okay, you're good. But also, the emergency room. I mean, whenever I have to go. So, I love an emergency room. I love...

56:35Jennifer Venditti:Hey, I know you're dying right now, but here's my card. Honestly, your nose. I just... Take my card. Take my card. No, I'm not scouting. This is just... I always say, like... People watch movies. I learn about performances. And how I view performances is through how I experience life. And when I'm feeling something from real life watching, that's the barometer I'm using when I'm watching someone's performance. I'm not basing it on other. This is why I have an instrument that can see when something feels authentic is because I'm deeply watching people experiencing life.

57:12Jason Stewart:And casting them through telepathy, I'm sure. Yeah, just letting them know. All right, another question about this. You will be the fat guy in Marty Supreme. But I want to wait. I just want to say the other thing is that these things, my favorite thing is finding a place, and this is why I say a hospital. I mean, an airport is that, the DMV, jury duty. Places where people that wouldn't likely cross paths or forced cross paths. That is my hot spot because the juxtapositions of people having to share a space is fascinating to me just watching a billionaire and next to this person or just like because what i'm i you know i i i i got to casting through documentary i mean i was doing casting before but like i thought i was going down the you know the filmmaking well hey thank god you chose this

58:06Jennifer Venditti:but you make a lot more money so that's good that that upstate house ain't paying for itself I know, I mean, I know. But I do feel like my point was, why I said that was because, wait, what was I saying? You asked me, now I just forgot.

58:21Jason Stewart:You're about to talk about how you're anti-unions, I think.

58:29I'm actually scouting for the union.

58:31Jason Stewart:Well, I was curious, because whenever your name appears on the credits of a film, the producer will be PGA, the director dga the casting agent is csa which is director director not agent okay well okay csa appears next to your name no you called me you know i just want to tell you casting agent is not

58:52Jennifer Venditti:what it is okay you're saying it's casting director yeah casting agent is like a myth that's this idea that we're like agents we're not oh i see you're saying that the words mean different things because

59:02Jason Stewart:of what the actual job is yeah yeah i apologize for using the business term and i know that you work in an ethereal manner that is not of us but of the casting society the csa you know suffix casting society yeah that's not a union correct that's just a society of elite casting direction what the fuck is a society i know you're right it's interesting but we do have a casting union where it's uh local 817 it's we're part of the teamster union i'm out okay so what is the what What are the pros and cons of the casting society versus the casting union, local Teamsters? I mean, I don't feel like I'm, I don't, there's, what do you mean?

59:46The casting society is the support you have of your peers.

59:51Jennifer Venditti:And union, make sure you get paid. Exactly. So the union, we get pension and welfare. They make sure we pay it if there's issues.

59:58Jason Stewart:So why doesn't, why don't you have the union suffix on the credits instead of just simply the society? society no one has brought this up jason this is i'm gonna bring this up at the next i'm a newbie let me just first say that i've only been doing film you know for like maybe 12 years you're a baby yeah and like these my nominee my fellow nominees like i think some of them are 30 plus

1:00:21Jennifer Venditti:years i think how are you hold on how are you feeling about this are we gonna take this shit home wait wait let me just finish this because i want to i want to i want to i want to give credit to these incredible people that are part of the csa and probably part of my unit yeah yeah yeah

1:00:33Jason Stewart:practicing the speech right now for the Oscars you can tell this is genuine that works tireless I don't even understand the path of like what you know because I haven't even been in as long but they've been fighting for this and like I'm just oh I see you're saying they've been in the trenches for years and now I see trying to get recognized and trying to get seen and fighting this and fighting this and it's just serendipitous that I happen to have a film the year that it happened to go through and I feel like I'm just like riding the coattails of these people that have been fighting to be seen and and i just i i it's it's almost like surreal and you have a little guilt about that or no yes i do have it's okay it's okay i mean i would i would too in your situation i feel like i could say there's many women and men that come before me that like god i i hope i hope they're gonna do some honorary thing forever that for all the people that didn't get to get it.

1:01:26Jennifer Venditti:No, no, no, no. You either win or you don't.

1:01:28Jason Stewart:Once they die, they'll show a black and white photo of them. You either win or you don't.

1:01:31Jennifer Venditti:Don't play with us. What are you wearing to the Oscars? What's the fit? I don't want to say yet, but I have some designer friends that I'm speaking with, and that's going to happen next week, so we'll see.

1:01:42Jason Stewart:You don't want Dumois and TMZ to get all over what designer you're going to wear? No, no. It's like, what if it doesn't work out, and then I said it?

1:01:48Jennifer Venditti:Do you have to sit at the table with Tower of the Creator, or are they going to put you somewhere else? There's not a table. I'm joking. Oh yeah, there's no tables on it. Who do you guys want to win? You could be honest.

1:01:59Jason Stewart:In your category? Yeah. I'm not saying me, but who do you guys really like? You're the only name on the category who I've heard of. I don't really see. I haven't seen any of these movies. Okay, so we got Hamnet, Nina Gold. Are you dead serious? Yeah. About what? You haven't seen one battle after another? No. Chris doesn't really see movies. Why am I on this? I'm like, this is so crazy. Well, I like you because you do a cool job. I think Chris has an eye for beauty. out in the world and I think you should respect that. I watch films on the airplane.

1:02:28Jennifer Venditti:I actually respect your job more than most jobs of people we have on this podcast. Chris hates a cinematographer. Wait, why did you guys want to have me on here? Why did you guys want to have me on here? Because I love the book. What made you get the book? Caitlin Phillips. Oh, are you friends with her? Yeah, but I also, I mean, I'm aware of the, like, I don't need to see the movies. Why didn't we talk then? I can't remember. I think it was just like a timing thing. I think it was just like a tiny thing. Wait, can I? Oh, I shouldn't say it on here. But anyways. No, go ahead. What? It's a more woo-woo thing.

1:03:02For Caitlin, for her thank you gift, you know, for helping me on the thing, I gave her a session with this like seer and he predicted. He predicted the French man. Wow, really? And so she like still to this day is just like, oh my God. I think she's told everyone. So now all her friends go to this person thinking it's going to happen for her.

1:03:23Jennifer Venditti:That is amazing though. I also think that this... Let's just, for the listeners, this person married a French man.

1:03:29Jason Stewart:What's the difference between a seer and a psychic? I'm just saying it that way. Is that like CSA and the casting union? There's a loaded meaning and judgment on psychic. Sure, sure. It's a rebranding. Okay, so we got Hamnet, Marty Supreme, One Battle After Another, Secret Agent, and Sinners. Yeah. For casting, who's it going to... I mean, I think you're definitely in the front run. But have you seen... I don't think that. But have you seen them all? I've seen Sinners, One Battle After Another, and Marty Supreme. But I really want to see Secret Agent, Hamnet. I don't know if I want to see it. Hamnet.

1:04:07Hamnet is off-brand for you guys.

1:04:09Jennifer Venditti:Every time I see the word Hamnet, I'm like, this is spelled wrong. It doesn't feel like a real thing. I have to say, though, I love... I mean, I loved the movie. but I love I really like Chloe Zhao I don't know did you guys ever see the writer yeah she she's

1:04:24Jason Stewart:great I'm a fan of her yeah okay well we don't care about any of these people because we want you to win despite me being a fan of her I still won't see it can I be honest with you that like all of this is very surreal I'm not like a very um like I like recognition and I love I love that that like craft is being recognized and I love that this thing that I was like an outsider you know on for so long is now like becoming more mainstream like i see all these kids with street casting yeah yeah you know instagram then i see i'm just like it's so mind-blowing when i started this you guys no one did this and it was insane to just like try to push the concept on people so to live in a world now where this is just like so normal and that i'm able to do it on the level

1:05:09Jennifer Venditti:i'm able to do it let me tell you something it's normal for it's i've always thought about this fellas can't do this job. You're right. Fellas cannot do this job.

1:05:17Jason Stewart:You're saying fellas can't approach teens in the mall and tell them they're hot? No. But anyway, any man. I've had even, you guys, you're right. Because I almost have to cast the people that work for me, you know, and work with me. But you're right. I've tried, even gay men, it's been hard. Like back in the day, I had two great guys that work for me and it was like hard. They have to be super gay in order for it to work. It's really hard. And, you know, back in the day, it was hard for me even. like meaning meaning because of your height no but it's hard for women with men they always think you're trying to pick them up or that it's like some ulterior back in the day now it's like they're like i don't want to fuck you i just think you'll have an interesting look okay

1:05:56Jennifer Venditti:yeah it's tough it's tough how do we clear that up without being super direct and sometimes you're in weird environments you're in a strip club you're in this you're in you know yeah you you in panama city for two months you know i don't even want to know what you saw down there it was insane all of a sudden the star of the movie is a fucking armadillo we don't know what happened the armadillo will do nudity though west virginia i don't see i can't say this stuff here but like i've been in scary things i've had intense i've had to do texas like the rodeo thing like by myself i remember sleeping against the the motel with my like a back against the door like back in the day like yeah it was there was intense things i remember being in like was it budapest the guy would not listen to me he my assistant was a man a guy and he would only listen to him and he kept

1:06:40Jason Stewart:saying she's the boss like oh and he said does not compute exactly let me ask you what let me ask you

1:06:46Jennifer Venditti:a question who who have you completely out of the blue street cast that has gone on to do i mean i don't think in that way but also i don't think because there's there's different things like obviously we you know there's angus cloud and hunter schaefer that that wasn't exactly street hunter wasn't like found on the street i just sure like researched and found her through her modeling agency you know what i mean there's different there's different ways of like non-traditional you mean like literally just well i guess angus would be that you know because he was fully he was fully just like a guy yeah and one of the girls that worked for me was coming home late at night she saw him and his friend they thought she they were like no this is weird she gave him the card and then the next day angus was such a curious open-hearted person he was like i want to go see what it was his friend's like i'm not going and he came to my office and he walked in the door and he was just an amazing person and that was how it all happened and you know i'm trying to think who else there's like that's a good that's good though i mean that's a good that's what you want what about the big boy in marty supreme luke that was from online but yeah oh my god i'm i'm gonna do a i'm gonna do a talk with him he just i just got him a manager i'm really excited i hope other people i hope that he gets other stuff because he was me too he came in and you know i do this process with people i i usually do like in-depth interviews just because i'm so i'm so curious about people get you a podcast mike jennifer exactly i know if i could find a good producer if i had a partner in crime i would i would love to do it we can talk budgets after okay um but i so i do these interviews because i'm genuinely curious and i'm trying to find if there's like any correlation between them and the character you know that they might be able to give insight to and then after they like kind of warm up from that we usually do like improvisational things just to see like can they be natural from the camera can they like be playful can they bring some part of themselves oops into this and um he was just a natural he's so funny so joyful so oh what's that what's what chris why do you have a microphone the whole time oh it was suddenly like i didn't notice it i've never seen anyone be scared that there's a

1:09:07Jason Stewart:microphone on a podcast you're like hold the fuck on what is that why is that in the shot yeah i thought it was like on a stand before no no i go wrong okay okay i let it fly in his own anyway so yeah he was very playful very present very like you know and you're looking for them to be able to bring their unique signature to these lines of this thing and then there's like an alchemy that makes it like alive and special and like luke is very so we're hoping that i mean i feel like other people could use them you know sometimes sometimes we find people and it's like we're bullish on luke keith do you remember keith william do you remember uncut gem the guy at the end that kills family character no i mean i saw that movie actually but i don't remember that oh yeah yeah yeah very what a what a face huh yeah the eyes and stuff like um like he still does stuff but he's never like you know he's not like doing mainstream things or things like that um so some people i'm trying to think like who like you know hunter is a perfect example she like barely was interested she wasn't interested in acting it was not her path she was going to go to uh school in london for fashion and we really like were like was like come on i think you should try i think you should try and like she did it and it's obviously she's a natural you know and she's someone that's now had or has a diverse career um but some people it's more just like that experience people have the experience and then they like go on with their life yeah like we did i did it it

1:10:34Jennifer Venditti:was a weird wrinkle in my in my life and now did you or you're saying oh no no no i did a lot of

1:10:40Jason Stewart:music video extra work but that's as far as my cinematic career went but i but but to your point i was cast because i was the tall guy and like you know back then music videos you know we need one of everything were you street cast um i was street cast sometimes yeah but i had an agent after a while you did like a like a like an acting agent or model i mean pretty much just for music video work. Okay. I was about to say, I think it's a secret third thing. Yeah. Where I did no acting or modeling, yes. Look, I'm no urchin, okay? I'm decent, guys. Come on.

1:11:20Jennifer Venditti:No, I think you're great. You know that. Jennifer, thank you for joining us today on How Long Gone. Our fingers are crossed for you to take this Oscar home. We love your work. Get the book. I'm sure it's still available or maybe it's sold out.

1:11:31Jason Stewart:You got to think How Long Gone if you win the Oscar. It's just kind of part of the deal. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You guys.

1:11:37Jennifer Venditti:We need a shout out. This was so fun. We had a blast. Hopefully, we'll see you soon. And thank you for taking the time. Sounds good. Thanks, Jennifer. Bye. Thank you. You should learn how to say no.

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