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8:08Chris Black:Okay. Okay. So why? Okay. I would love to know the origin of spatchcock.

8:11Jason Stewart:Well, you know when you see those videos of the Francis Maulmans cooking the whole animals like on the fire? Yeah. Yeah. And the rib cage is open and it's like splayed out kind of like Jesus on the cross, but it's a goat. Yes. Kind of like that, but with the chicken.

8:28Chris Black:Okay.

8:28Jason Stewart:And then Mojo sauce, it's like a Cuban kind of Caribbean sauce. It's very simple. It's like usually orange juice, oregano, cumin kind of garlicky, citrusy, herby. Nothing crazy. I'm sure it pairs very well with chicken over there in New Jersey.

8:48Chris Black:It sounds delicious to me. I know that the Jersey chickens are... All right.

8:53Jason Stewart:But the chef uses a garlic bloom brown butter brush. so I don't know what that means exactly

9:00Chris Black:well I know that it means it's brushed on like paint on the canvas but I don't know garlic bloomed does that mean he got the garlic before it was ripe like is it you know what I'm saying

9:10Jason Stewart:no I think he's getting the garlic he's cooking it down in some brown butter so it's like a brown butter garlicky sauce and then he's got some type of I don't know an uptown Spanish sauce mop and he'll kind of blast those while they're doing a high heat mojo roast.

9:28Chris Black:Don't you get, no, you know what happens when you bring home one of those uptown Spanish sauce mops back to the house? You know, that's going to be bad news. The whole team gets to hit. The cleaning lady's bummed out when that happens. Okay.

9:39Jason Stewart:The elevated pink. Oh, no, it happened again, Mr. Jason.

9:42Chris Black:Mr. Jason, no.

9:43Jason Stewart:I got to start peeling a couple 20s off extra. That's for you, okay? The elevated

9:47Chris Black:pink beans is the thing that you had a question about, and as do I. I understand that a bean comes in several colors and flavors. Again, I'm no expert. I'm not shopping on, you know, I'm not getting the Gordo subscription like some people, but the pink bean, if you had to guess what that was, is this a Cameron inspired? Is that why it's uptown? Or is this something that exists at the local Costco?

10:15Jason Stewart:I think a pink bean is very similar to just like a regular kind of pinto bean or something like that, but I think specifically because it is an uptown Harlem inspired menu, the the brand Goya that I'm sure you're familiar with. Yes. They do a lot of bean work, and I think they have one called the bean. I mean, if I lived in New York, I'd know more about this, but I think the pink bean is very similar to like a pinto bean or a kidney bean kind of thing. It's not super crazy exotic. Okay, okay.

10:46Chris Black:It sounded very exotic.

10:47Jason Stewart:But those pink beans are elevated, slow simmered, pink beans with aromatics. Let me say - And aromatics is spilled incorrectly.

10:54Chris Black:herbs tomato depth and a glossy butter finish all right aromatics though i i mean that seems quite vague as far as it is what that means that seems on purpose obviously it's some sort of

11:11Jason Stewart:fragrance i think they were trying to trick the average viewer of this menu when you just say aromatics like i don't know what that is exactly but it sounds nice and expensive it sounds cool

11:19Chris Black:But then at the bottom of this menu, there's a kicker, and it's just sort of short phrases, like almost poetry, I would say. Crispy skin, mojo depth, bright citrus lift, warm spice undertone, creamy beans, clean rice, sharp onion pop, fresh reset. which look i'm no expert on ai but this is maybe one of the most generated uh sentences i guess i would i guess it's i don't even know if i would call it sentences necessarily technically it probably isn't but it seems like something they maybe should have left out is all i will say yeah

11:58Jason Stewart:i agree that's i mean but this is the kind of thing where the average person is going to look at it and be like i'm a little out of my depth i'm gonna you know i'm just gonna i'm gonna trust the process of this is this is good you know so the discerning yeah connoisseur like you and me we're able to see through this ai slop but you know the average barstool enjoyer is gonna look at that and be like oh damn this sounds fucking i might make a res for valentine's day for this shit you know what i mean yeah i'm trying to see if this guy's available shorty i got you that tomato dip uh actually well speaking of food i was um shout out to our friends over at flash food but they they sent over a nice little box full of some winter veg and i uh i've been cooking so much lately and carolyn and i have our our faves that we go to and stuff that we make and you know a little healthy here little bad boy here whatever but i'm starting to run out of things to cook and And I was like, I'm going to make a borscht in the style of Veselka over there in NYC.

13:02Jason Stewart:Tuck into a nice bowl of borscht during a winter pounding. Sounds good, doesn't it, Chris? Yeah. There's definitely a fucking - Warm the cockles.

13:08Chris Black:There's a chick right now with some fucking true religions on her floor getting that done right now. There's no question that's happening somewhere in the East Village right now. Ninth and A, watch out.

13:20Jason Stewart:Okay. So I made the borscht. I cut my finger grating beets. never grate a whole raw beet it's tough work you need a little chain mail glove but I made a big old pot of borscht obviously Carolyn doesn't want any of it because she's a normal person and I'm like talking to my like the neighbors I'm like I made some borscht you know getting cold and they're like they start looking around like you know nobody wants the borscht it's a hard thing to give away so you're saying you can't unload and this is A1 Perico Primo Borscht the first borscht i've ever made and beyond a home run so you're saying because well also you're

13:59Chris Black:saying the quality ingredients is so high that your neighbors maybe weren't aware of that the the quality before they rejected it you weren't going to make your case and explain to them what what you're capable of okay um well borscht is disgusting so i'm not surprised that no one wants it um but what do you so are you gonna are you gonna put it in the the sub-zero in the garage

14:21Jason Stewart:you know for storage yeah it's in yeah it's currently frozen okay so we've been some little little cups okay i i already had four bowls of it this week so you went so you went bill

14:32Chris Black:cosby mode and put the pudding in the little cups is that what you're telling me and then

14:36Jason Stewart:you froze that that's right you got vanilla you got chocolate i got something else a little different it's magenta and you're not gonna like it i like the mix i like my shit stirred my shit

14:45Chris Black:same color as the guia bruh okay so that's that's an interesting that is an interesting development I mean, I find it hard.

14:52Jason Stewart:It's mildly interesting.

14:52Chris Black:I find it hard to believe that you, as an amateur gourmand, have quote-unquote run out of things to cook. That feels a little strong. I think that there's probably some cultures and cuisines that you've yet to uncover. There are. And, I mean, maybe they're not good or interesting, which is totally fair. I see what you're saying.

15:15Jason Stewart:It's more of like everyone has their faves that they go to and run to. And after so many years, you kind of perfect them and you want to try new things. You want to explore. But I like the borscht not so much because of the flavor, but because it just makes certain foods make your body feel good. Like you eat a whole – you can have two different sandwiches. You eat one of them, you feel good. You eat one of them, you feel like shit. it's not necessarily because one is a bad boy sandwich and one is a super healthy one just like different nutrients and foods and things like your everyone's body responds differently to different things and a borscht i feel like i can eat a whole bucket of it and i just feel good how come my body responds badly to everything then this is something i guess i need to take this up with god well i mean the phrase that you use hurled in my general direction could be used here for you bitch made is what you are you have uh hurled it's hurled yeah yeah well it's funny it's funny because i sent you guys you got bad constitution as they say or no constitution it's giving uh it's giving assook it's giving crass flag that's why i don't do my 23 and me because i know it's going to come up 100 bitch this episode of how long gone is brought to you by

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22:08Jason Stewart:support the show uh that's that's that's gonna be i don't want to pay a hundred dollars for that oh what tribe is that exactly what i was hoping this would work out in my favor but it says here i'm

22:19Chris Black:100 bitch i was i was gonna because we've been i sent you guys this menu yesterday we've been going to there's a place in charleston called baba's and it is it's like a christy like baba Yeah, it's like an all-day coffee, pastries, but they have a full menu. And I thought I liked Baba. Alex likes Baba. We're going to go every day that we're here is what's going to happen. But there's a—

22:41Jason Stewart:So all 12 days you're going to go?

22:42Chris Black:12 days of Charleston for the Stranded. And it was the 12 days of Baba. So there's three locations. We visited all three. But just to check it, there's one that's walking distance, two are a little more of a drive. One feels a little more collegiate, College of Charleston student vibe. and you know the greek location one has a more of a larder essentials market vibe you know where you could get obviously some charcuterie some obviously natural wines saying there's a baba grab and go there's a baba but there's a they're famous for this this grilled uh chocolate chip banana bread with butter which i haven't had yet thank god but i sent you yesterday there's a salad there that's sort of simple with pistachios and like parmesan and it's really that's not a salad

23:25Jason Stewart:That's a cheese plate, but go ahead.

23:27Chris Black:I mean, it's so good, and I think about it. I'm like, oh, when it creeps towards lunchtime, all I want is this fucking salad. And they also have an avocado toast. They have a turkey sandwich. They have a great grilled cheese that has a little pimento flavor to it.

23:42Jason Stewart:Yeah, I'm looking at the pistachio and Parmesan salad, gem lettuce, lemon vin, toasted pistachio, shaved Parmigiano-Reggiano. I feel like this couldn't be a more simple salad, right? I feel like you and Alex could make this at home any day of the week, right?

23:57Chris Black:In theory, that is probably true. But something about it, I think that, I don't know, it's just really hidden. I just think that salads have gotten sometimes overcomplicated. Talk your shit. This is a great version of something that's just normal as hell. It's just normal as hell, but it's really good. And I think that they have some other pistachio. I feel like they're pistachio forward, which I don't know if that's a trend or if that's something that I've just missed.

24:19Jason Stewart:Can we talk about how you pronounce the word pistachio? Pistachio? You go for an ah. It's a tomato, tomato. Pistachio, darling.

24:26Chris Black:I don't mean to make it gayer than normal. But you did. But maybe I'm adding a little sauce on it. No vinaigrette. Well, I think you should make this at home. You're coming to L.A. whenever. Yeah, maybe. Well, I was going to ask if maybe you could batch this for me and sort of meal prep it. So I have five days of salad. So I don't have to go out and venture out.

24:48Jason Stewart:I just love the idea of you driving home from Easton Gym with one of my little plastic containers in between your legs, driving the little range around, and you're just shoveling cheese and pistachios into your mouth as your protein-packed meal.

25:05Chris Black:I got to say, well, that's the one issue with it. You cannot add salmon to it, but I get a bunch of – they have a lot of jammy eggs, so I get those. to sort of...

25:13Jason Stewart:When are we just going to give up, Chris, and just start having chicken breast? I mean, I kind of think...

25:20Chris Black:I think about... No, because I think about it, and then I don't, because I'm already such a basic bitch. I don't want to be part of the chicken Caesar wrap dialogue. I know. I feel like that's the end for me. That's worse than buying a$10 ,000 road bike.

25:35Jason Stewart:But yeah, but that's just one way to have chicken. You could have Spatchcock Mojo.

25:41Chris Black:Yeah, I could. I could but then I'm saying sounds like a fucking

25:45Jason Stewart:at the drive-in lyric

25:46Chris Black:it really does but then I get into like oh have you tried the rotisserie chicken at Costco it's actually bomb I don't want to be a part of that no Chris don't do that I don't want to be a part of that that's jester slop

25:57Jason Stewart:don't eat that

25:58Chris Black:there's a New York Times article also talking about how chicken is now the most expensive thing on the menu several places so it feels like this is there's a

26:05Jason Stewart:there's a Wall Street Journal story about how that's what's keeping us from buying our first home

26:12Chris Black:right no that's the meadow lane chicken salad that's keeping us from buying our first home

26:15Jason Stewart:at least for all the people that were hating on that article hey guys there's there's a the price of of rotisserie chickens is a scale you can get the one at costco that's just made with plastic or you could get some real big dog shit you know what i'm saying made with plastic and i'm sure

26:31Chris Black:what does spatchcock mean oh it's actually uh it's it's seeped in plastic for a couple hours and then it's sort of presented that way some burgers are a dollar some are 25 dollars i think Yeah, I feel like that scale has always existed. I don't know why. I mean, maybe I guess it's a restaurant trend story more than it is actually.

26:47Jason Stewart:It's one of those things where people, it's like the Kleenex and tissue. When you say rotisserie chicken, the mind just subconsciously goes to whatever, jester slop in a bag, just a hot microplastic bag that costs$3, and you just kind of tear into it, and God knows what they're pumping in those birds.

27:05Chris Black:I want to know if some of these gym guys that are really about their protein, have they installed rotisseries in their homes? Because that is a high-end element of a grand sort of McMansion kitchen that I've seen before. Do you think there's guys living in one-bedroom apartments that sort of sleep on top of kettlebells? They're like, you know what, fuck it. I'm not going to buy any Magna this month. Guys that can easily bench 315, no problem.

27:33Jason Stewart:I'm sure that there's going to be some type of startup thing like when everyone was buying$200 pizza ovens a few years ago, there's going to be like a Ninja brand rotisserie where people are going to meal prep out their birds. But the problem is they're going to be really upset when they go and when you buy a seasoned, cooked, hot, and ready-to-eat rotisserie chicken at Costco for$4. Their shit don't taste like that. Well, that, but then also you go to the store and just buy a raw chicken with no flavor that's going to require hours of work, and that costs whatever,$15.

28:08Chris Black:Oh, I see. It's like a better, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's one of those.

28:11Jason Stewart:It doesn't make sense to the average bear.

28:13Chris Black:So you would have to want to cook.

28:15Jason Stewart:But you can buy in bulk. I like the idea of getting like a little Bluetooth enabled Wi-Fi rotisserie thing. You dump it in your wet brine for a 24 in the Costco, in the Home Depot bucket.

28:27Chris Black:I like the idea of one of these guys in head-to-toe bandit running outside sweating, waiting on his bulk chicken delivery from Cisco to come so he can kind of pack them in? No, no, no.

28:38Jason Stewart:He's watching the game, and then he gets a notification on his phone that chicken number three on his spit has reached the ideal optimized temperature, internal temp, and now it's time to pull.

28:51Chris Black:Honestly, this is a pretty good idea.

28:53Jason Stewart:I mean, this is for dads and grads coming up this summer?

28:56Chris Black:Not dads. Well, the takeover is sort of when the air fryer, this feels like it could be...

29:03Jason Stewart:It's very, very air fryer, Because like you said, the meal prep for the week, I just get seven chickens, line those pretty ladies up all in a row, and then pull out my brown butter garlic mojo basting brush and then twerk that thing a good two hours, low and slow. And then you get the chicken, the fat, the juices are all dripping down. Guess what's in the bottom? A whole bunch of nice Yukon Golds from Weiser. And they're getting crisped up, all that chicken fat in there. Those are protein potatoes. Those are pro-tatoes.

29:35Chris Black:Protatos So check out our new release We got Protatos After the run Just grab a latte and a Protato

29:41Jason Stewart:These ain't your granny's That's actually pretty

29:44Chris Black:I do think that I want to I think that Ideating on what is the next Because the air fryer Really took over the culture The air fryer was an extremely It penetrated All corners of society I mean it's still ravaging

29:58Jason Stewart:America and the world

30:00Chris Black:But I mean We had one at one point and Alex would stink up the house with it occasionally. But I, of course, was able to get rid of it.

30:09Jason Stewart:Shop show crabs are done, Chris. You ready? Yeah, we did.

30:12Chris Black:I come home. I come home. I'm like, why does it smell like a crab boil in here? She's like, because it is, bitch. That's why.

30:17Jason Stewart:You got all kinds of mojo sauce on the ceiling. She ain't ever going to say how that got there. Why is there corn on the cob over the floor? There was some spray back. I'm very sorry.

30:27Chris Black:You got to be careful with the boils. You got to be careful with the boils. But that is an interesting, I think that some, I think the spit, the home spit for under 300. Yeah. The William & Sonoma.

30:36Jason Stewart:Because it was air fryer, and then it moved to the Ninja at Home ice cream maker. Oh, yes. And then also the Ninja vertical waffle iron, which my mom and Carolyn's mom both wanted and received for Christmas.

30:53Chris Black:I have to say, that sounds kind of fly. I'm not super familiar with it, but what is the twist on it? you just obviously a waffle fryer a waffle um iron maker iron i'm sorry waffle iron is pretty obvious you pour the batter in you slam that shit shut you come back when it's ready so what is the stand-up version what is what is the tony hawk vert edition well yeah instead of it being a flat

31:17Jason Stewart:waffle iron where you pour the batter in you close the lid it sizzles and steams it yeah yeah spits out some shit on the sides it gets burned whatever this one it's a vertical it's docked you know like a spaceship or whatever and it's got a hole i've never done it before i'm just yeah sure you've purchased two i've purchased i think i know what i'm talking about and then there's a there's you take all the guesswork out of it you basically just pour in the waffle batter into the hole you know like the blow hole of uh if you're trying to kill a dolphin and fill his hole with cement same kind of vibe you just fill it up to the line close the hole and then uh she'll cook.

31:55Jason Stewart:Huh. Next thing you know I mean I learned about it from a friend of the show Al Wilmont his new restaurant Bar Di Bello opening soon in Silver Lake but he said this waffle iron looks so nice. It's one of those things like I got it for my kid my kid loves waffles but uh Let me ask you a question I'd be lying if I didn't have one myself.

32:09Chris Black:I actually no I actually love Elsa I think those movies are really good.

32:13Jason Stewart:It sucks having kids I gotta eat all this junk food now I'm getting fat again.

32:17Chris Black:Okay I understand this difference I don't understand why it would be better. I have no clue why. You know what I mean? Okay it's just It's just basically we change something and people are dumb enough to buy it, even though they probably have something that does the same exact job in their kitchen already.

32:30Jason Stewart:Yeah, and I guess until like industrial, until like Max and Helens and, you know, Waffle House start using this technology, you know, I'll believe it when I see it. It's like, you know, when hotels start using Dyson vacuums, then we'll talk about it, but they ain't doing it. So, you know, trust the industry standard is a good way to be. Yeah, that's actually quite true.

32:50Chris Black:I was thinking recently about I think when I go back to it because I'm going to Atlanta for a little bit and I think I need to hit the awful waffle. I haven't been in so long.

32:59Jason Stewart:I've never heard it called the awful waffle.

33:01Chris Black:I don't think that's a Chris original. I think that probably seeped in somewhere in my...

33:06Jason Stewart:Oh I didn't think you invented it. I'm just I'm delighted by this

33:13Chris Black:established colloquialism. It's a nice turn of phrase yeah but I haven't been in so long I feel like it would be a nice treat because you could just get you know eight eggs scrambled some hash browns not smothered and covered and maybe you know a

33:24Jason Stewart:little waffle on the side let me get an eight and eight protein style yeah i wonder if they i'm sure

33:28Chris Black:they've added some protein style elements to their menu which probably has you know i would say that

33:33Jason Stewart:menu doesn't go no they're leaning into the fiber maxing they said we've been here the whole time guys we've been here no what's in you know what's in waffles bitch plenty of fiber we've been here

33:40Chris Black:the whole goddamn time you should i would love to go to waffle house with you it's i mean it's pretty good it's a you know what's cool about it is that it is at certain locations not all of them obviously it's kind of busy all the time yeah like for a 24-hour restaurant it's it's interesting that it's it doesn't feel super like it's i mean obviously i'm sure there's there's ebbs and flows but overall it seems to have a baseline busyness that you would expect it to peak at like 3 a.m or whatever you know yeah well we got the 4 a.m rush but they're saying that they're saying that your precious in and out is coming to new york i'm sure you saw that rumor yeah but that rumor

34:17Jason Stewart:has existed every year on the year yeah for 20 years i guess i don't know i mean i think even david show did some mary prankster kind of banksy work where he would put up that ad busters motherfucker he would put up his little in and out coming soon wheat you know wheat paste posters you know getting curbed ny this message board going nuttier than squirrel shit

34:43Chris Black:oh god dude I love that I love Cho out there getting the fucking nasty little glue all over his you know his Nikes imagine getting fucking glue on your Jordans that'll ruin your day

34:57Jason Stewart:the resale value on the SBs goes up with a little fucking street art a little street art on it I got a little street art on it a little street on this how much more

35:08Chris Black:can I get for it Oh, how much more? On the micro dunks. Okay, so there was news this morning that Donald J. Trump, 45 and 47, Respectfully. Because of this constant and ever-evolving government shutdown, TSA, they pulled the plug on TSA and global entry. They said no more pre-check, no more global entry. And then a friend of the show, Spencer Vorman, was reporting live from LAX, and he said that it's fine and the guy told him the guy that worked at TSA was like yeah that shit lasts like three hours bro we're good so I wonder what is I obviously wish I was finding out today but I won't be finding out until Wednesday morning at 4.30 so I can't give an on the ground report but I feel like that combined with this blizzard in New York could be the most diabolical airport combination ever invented and it's something I have to go through as a frequent flight.

36:07Chris Black:Like it's my job to go through that. It's like basic training.

36:12Jason Stewart:Oh, it's your duty.

36:13Chris Black:Yeah.

36:14Jason Stewart:You're on the front lines of the, okay. Well, I mean, some people are like, you know what? Middle of February, dead center of winter. Let's go in an airplane. Everything should be fine. You know, it feels like a little user error. That's all, Chris.

36:27Chris Black:It is user error. But I think this time of year, this is the worst winter in New York that I can remember, like snow-wise. I really, so I think that people are - I think people are confused by it. But look, if I went to JFK with a canceled flight, 18 inches of snow, and no TSA, that is like, in my mind, I'm wearing full fatigues, crawling on my arms underneath barbed wire in mud with an AK on my back. That's how I, so just let me have this one.

36:55Jason Stewart:A grenade lands in front of your face. You pick it up, you throw it back. Yeah, I throw it back. I'm throwing that right back. This reminds me of the first TSA government shutdown a few months ago. Yeah. When my dear sweet wife, she went through Delta One and they said, oh, no, we're going to have to take you upstairs through Gen Pop. And we're going to give you, you know.

37:16Chris Black:Well, the whole point of Delta One is honestly the reason to pay that much money for that ticket is to go through the fake security. That's the whole point.

37:25Jason Stewart:But the last couple of times I've done it, it seems like it's been slower than when I'm going up in Gen Pop.

37:30Chris Black:Well, it's definitely slower because that's the laziest people I can find.

37:35Jason Stewart:just the sweet irony of like oh it's slower a slower check-in process for the ticket that

37:41Chris Black:cost me nine thousand dollars what if they're what if they're doing on purpose to keep you out of the lounge because you're gonna eat them out of house and home every every minute you're

37:49Jason Stewart:stalled waiting is another fucking lemon cheesecake square that you're not sucking down

37:56Chris Black:all right we got a big we got a big fellow on let's fucking all right let's hold this up let's

38:00Jason Stewart:search he said he kept talking about getting two servings of the risotto let's uh let's do a bag

38:05Chris Black:check he said the word lasagna is more than twice we got to get this guy out of here yeah i think i think that there's um there's there's something to be said that feels purposeful in some way but i i hope it's not i would hate to wish you know i would hate for our delta family to be treating us

38:19Jason Stewart:like that yeah but you know this is what we have to do during times of war chris we got to buckle down, buy bonds, and fly, I guess fly private. Did you see? I'm buying

38:30Chris Black:gold and flying private. Did you see where they asked DT what his favorite Bible verse was? And he said, oh, gotta go. He was literally like, that's very private. I could never pit. And then they were like, alright, what's your favorite, New Testament or Old Testament? And he was like, oh, it's a tie.

38:50Jason Stewart:Damn.

38:53Chris Black:Which I was like, A master jujitsu wiggler out of that one. I was like, that is a really cool answer.

38:59Jason Stewart:You're asking me to pick my favorite kid. I can't do that on camera, guys.

39:03Chris Black:There's literally no wrong answer to do you like the New Testament or Old Testament better. I don't think there's a – I mean, there's preferences, of course, but I don't think there's a right or wrong answer. So to not be able to give one is really funny.

39:15Jason Stewart:I think at this point, a president might have a better shot at getting a higher approval rating. If you came out and said, I've never read the Bible. I'm here to fix our country. I don't care about that shit. Yeah.

39:30Chris Black:No, I agree with you. I think if you followed up, I don't read the Bible. I don't care about that with a focus.

39:36Jason Stewart:And then you get voted in and they're like, yeah, I don't read the Bible. I read the Quran. Got you, bitch. Got him. And then next thing you know.

39:44Chris Black:Because then we're never having security again. This is beautiful.

39:46Jason Stewart:I've seen that Mojo Chicken on every corner.

39:50Chris Black:Swear to God, if I see one more Mojo Chicken cart, I'm going to flip the fuck out.

39:55Jason Stewart:Speaking of carts, in New York, over there in Chinatown, my sexual abuser and his mom bought a big cement building over there, Alex Wang, right?

40:06Chris Black:Yeah, I walk by it every day. The Wang Contemporary, which is too... I mean, that's just too good.

40:13Jason Stewart:I was like saying, I like Young Dick, contemporary Wang. I mean, people are - Is it really called Wang Contemporary?

40:22Chris Black:Yeah, it's called the Wang Contemporary. Yeah, I have a picture of the sign on my phone because it sort of happened - We got Wajian supremacy and Wang Contemporary. I literally walk by it every day, multiple times a day. So I noticed when they changed the sign.

40:37Jason Stewart:You walk around it picketing it because it's a sexual abuser?

40:40Chris Black:Oh, yeah. I was throwing tomatoes at it from the city bike. but I guess I wasn't super clear on how long his money was and it is it's longer than the Lunar New Year parade that is longer than a dragon's tail do you think he got some outside funding? I think the family has Brad I mean it's a beautiful building that's been there forever that's sort of like I think it was relatively also affordable considering what it is and where it is

41:06Jason Stewart:yeah it was like 9 million dollars for a giant

41:10Chris Black:it's a beautiful like marble building like on you know on bowery so it's like bridge yeah it's like right next to the the bridge but i i don't know um i don't know what he's gonna house in there but it seems like i mean look he's got northwest boys wearing his clothes so i think that i think that your your allegations are meaningless at this point i think he's i think he's sort of much like other other uh men in his position of power he's beat the charges wang come

41:37Jason Stewart:on the pod. Let's do a nice

41:39Chris Black:confrontation. Isn't it amazing? Kevin Spacey's having a tap dance for fucking billionaires with blood on their hands in Uzbekistan.

41:47Jason Stewart:I wonder how Wang got an extra 10 milli just to buy an old cement building by the bridge. He's getting his little Saudi on. Who else buys Alexander Wang but Northwest and fucking oligarchs and warlords? The daughters of them.

42:02Chris Black:I would like to see a breakdown. I don't think he's had a hit in a while, but I I don't know what the building is going to house. Obviously, contemporary art is the goal and the selling point, but don't worry. For our listeners and for you, Jason, I'll be on the ground. I'll take a look. I'll pay my – I mean, maybe it's free. I doubt it is, but I'll happily pay up to$30 to tour the facilities.

42:28Jason Stewart:I'll be out there. I'm going to do a PETA-style throwing of the duck sauce on his fur coat as he walks in. I think he –

42:36Chris Black:splashed with hoisin oh don't don't make for your sins don't take it there don't take it there hold me back twin hold me not in chinatown you'll get in trouble they'll beat your ass bro these those motherfuckers won't play with you if you beat my ass at ping pong that's about it

42:49Jason Stewart:you heard okay um speaking of fitness net uh rfk jr he is being accused of being a never nude

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47:33Chris Black:a second look at squarespace chris uh so head to squarespace.com slash how long for a free trial when you're ready to launch you use offer code how long to save 10 off your first purchase of a website or domain let me say something right now before we get into this rfk jr looks great he does look great for his age he's he's in amazing shape for his age i don't think i don't think he's a never nude i think that he thinks that wearing jeans in all situations especially ones that are uh athletic focused makes him more masculine which is dumb as hell but i do think he takes his jeans off when carol says let's let me get let me see what that okay okay um okay okay

48:15Jason Stewart:got it got it so that does make sense and i think that there are like people who have the joe rogan mentality who are like you always have to be on and alert for danger there could always be an intruder or somebody coming in so i can never be caught without my pants on literally or figuratively but I think that is that line drawn in bodies of water because he's going in the cold plunge with jeans on. I mean, look, I think it is very weird. Look, a guy with no shirt on wearing hiking boots and 501s putting up 315 on the rogue rack, let him cook, do your thing. I ain't going to hold you. As soon as you go in a pool, a hot tub, a cold tub with jeans on.

49:01Chris Black:Yeah, that's worse than Justin Bieber wearing fucking ankle-length basketball shorts and Calvin Klein boxers in the hot tub.

49:07Jason Stewart:Yeah, it's like there's a famous Lil Wayne photo where he's wearing socks in the jacuzzi. Isn't there a Meek Mill photo like that too?

49:15Chris Black:I think there's several. I think that RFK thinks— It raises questions. I think it's just a masculinity thing. I think he thinks this is the most masculine thing you can do. and I don't think he's even considering how stupid he looks.

49:32Jason Stewart:I think he is considering it. I think he's constantly thinking about it and I think I talked about this earlier maybe like a year or so ago. I think he's hiding something under his jeans.

49:47Chris Black:You think he's got academics legs or you think he's got a third leg?

49:50Jason Stewart:I think there is some sort of deformity that is so upsetting that it is better to just leave them on. But then the question that I'm also wrangling with is like, if that is the case, whatever it is, let's say you've got heroin track marks, you've got an insane Nazi tattoo, you were in a fire and the skin is deformed, whatever it could be, crazy vein blood disease or something where it just looks so crazy, it's better to truly leave the jeans on even in the pool. then my question is that sort of debunks that why are you filming yourself doing this you know you can just do all the stuff well but you don't have to film yourself swimming with

50:33Chris Black:jeans on because he wants to be i think it's a i think he knows it gets people talking which there's also no real downside for him you know what i mean there's no like i learned that from dj vlad him and kid rock going you know toe to toe in the sauna in the cold plunge i mean yeah

50:49Jason Stewart:A salt bike in the sauna with jeans on, that has to be beyond annoying. That must feel so uncomfortable.

50:57Chris Black:I'm willing to try that, actually. If we could set that up somewhere, I'm willing to get a client.

51:03Jason Stewart:I mean, a pair of your salvage Japanese is just soaked to the – I mean, they're going to be like 35 pounds of Japanese denim. This is a good idea because we're – Crinkling and crunching.

51:13Chris Black:We're introducing a new Hanover jean fit. So I think maybe the promo could be this. I try them out in certain situations, but maybe this is the final boss of those situations. Finally, a denim for our cold plungers out there. Well, the real question is, what do we think he's wearing underneath? He got American flag ethicas. American flag ethicas, Saks, S-A-X-X. Is he wearing, but could he be going free?

51:43Jason Stewart:Yeah, I think he does not wear underwear.

51:46Chris Black:I think he's not wearing underwear, which in that case, because if he's wearing - 100 % not wearing underwear. If he's wearing his District Vision bike shorts, you know, or half tights underneath there, he's fine. That's protecting your thighs from any shaping. He is not.

51:57Jason Stewart:He is not. I think he believes a true American has to go ball on Levi.

52:02Chris Black:Are the jeans officially, are they American made? Are they Levi's? Have we figured out what brand they are, actually? No, no, no. Because I think that I would be.

52:09Jason Stewart:Let me ask throwing fits.

52:10Chris Black:I would be certain. I would be shocked if there wasn't a little stretch in those things based on his age. based on his age as he's gotten older sure those are page premium those are not 501s those are not or slow those are those are not you know those are not 316 japanese stand up in the corner alone

52:31Jason Stewart:okay the the atlantic has reports suggesting he is um wearing origin delta flex denim jeans for mobility he's been noted for wearing tight fitting jeans during workouts leading to speculation about his athletic style denim. He has not confirmed this brand, but he has been associated with the trend of performance enhancing denim.

52:53Chris Black:So he found racist jeans and wears those to work out in, which is unbelievable that that even exists.

53:00Jason Stewart:Two days ago, there was a story in the Atlantic called Let's Talk About RFK Jr.'s Workout Pants. I mean, look, you know how I feel about anybody. Pretty good artwork, actually.

53:07Chris Black:Anybody working out in pants, I think it's kind of psycho. If you're really sweating, like wearing your jeggings or lululemons doesn't really make sense to me but i think that the if he's wearing stretch denim that is specifically engineered for working out then i think we should buy a pair and put me through my paces because i think there's only there's only one way there's only one way to find that you can't that you know i don't know if i could walk one day in his hokas but i would try

53:34Jason Stewart:oh he there's a video where he says rfk jr reveals why he wears jeans during workouts What's, oh, he said, it's because he goes hiking in the morning and then he goes straight to the gym. And it's just become a habit. Okay. So, you know, as if it's normal that we all go hiking in tight jeans as well. No one hikes in jeans either.

53:54Chris Black:No one hikes in jeans either.

53:56Jason Stewart:But that's the thing. Like, his brain believes that that is a good alibi, excuse, or reason.

54:02Chris Black:Yeah. And, I mean, I guess from a logistical standpoint for him, it does make sense. I remember clearly one time, I think you were with me, Jason. We went on a hike with an unnamed friend. This is years ago. And he showed up in some Japanese denim and some Birkenstocks. And we were sort of like, bro, it's not that kind of thing. This is kind of hard. You've got to wear real shoes. We're not doing the res. I'm not saying shorts necessarily, but at least a sweat pant that allows for some mobility. You know what I mean? and I think that RFK holding onto that for convenience sake feels like a... He's making a choice.

54:42Chris Black:Did our little runner boy

54:43Jason Stewart:have no problem with that hike though, I remember. No, he did not.

54:46Chris Black:He did not.

54:47Jason Stewart:Kind of hike-mogged us in broken stocks. He hiked-mogged us. He shit on us, honestly. So maybe we're wrong. I went hiking yesterday. What a beautiful day. I could see the ocean. I haven't been on a hike in so long.

54:58Chris Black:I used to go solo sometimes. Honestly, the problem is when you're traveling and you go on a hike in LA, the shoes are so dusty you don't want to put them back you don't want to put them back in the in the

55:08Jason Stewart:in the suitcase no that's that's a real thing but a person like you you can get a you know get a little one hit pair no i would i mean i used to honestly i used to keep a pair of nordis

55:18Chris Black:in the back of the bmw for that purpose it was great to have those there i remember a lot of

55:23Jason Stewart:sense made a lot of sense to keep a pair do you want to talk about polymarket and sub stack

55:26Chris Black:partnership nope uh no no i mean i don't know what of all the things that people say and do on substack it's funny that this is the thing that is sort of feels like it's breaking the

55:40Jason Stewart:camel's back a little bit i agree i agree it doesn't but also i mean if they're trying if substack is like we have you know the liberal kind of artistic left side of things but we don't have the right this is a good way to like you know if you're if you're an average poly market crypto republican cybertruck bro you have no use for sub stack you don't know what sub stack is yeah

56:06Chris Black:that's my that's i mean obviously there's plenty of um more right-leaning authors on sub stack like i don't sure you know and they've they've captured i mean they got in trouble for capturing a little too much of that market if you if you want to get into the weeds but yeah i don't understand i mean obviously it must be a monetary thing but i don't really understand the point like i just don't understand not knowing that this will uh enrage your base like before you do it and that that's what i'm confused that's what confuses me because i understand that on from a number standpoint this might work or make sense but when you know that people are going to be pissed off i don't know why i don't it can't be worth it in the long run but but maybe it is i mean they have more data

56:48Jason Stewart:than we do i mean i'm sure that polymarket gave them a lot of money to do this maybe to legitimize them and i don't know exactly what the integration or partnership entails i don't know if anyone does yet but you know at the very least being able to embed i mean i could see it being useful and beneficial being you know if somebody is writing about a subject that we don't you know people are debating and wondering you can embed you know just like a a myspace link or whatever the myspace music player into the story and you can get a live up-to-date you know ranking on on the the likelihood of whatever it is you're talking about happening and it could be something you know important to the world like when are we going to bomb iran and not like how many seconds is the u.s hockey team gonna go into overtime with or you know what color shoelaces yeah uh f1 driver

57:45Chris Black:is going to wear something i just it doesn't seem it also just doesn't seem necessary like i'm like i don't know if this is what anybody wants like even if you love both of those things and you use them i doubt you've ever thought about integrating them well i think there's a big world of that type

58:02Jason Stewart:of person using i mean i guess like um like sports betting people where they're writing you know a lot of um paywalled information oh because they're okay so you're you're subscribing that they're trying to yeah yeah because they'll do like private lists like email lists of like you know give me 100 bucks a month and i'll give you all my real picks i'll give you my picks so that's that could be a huge market in a great easy way to paywall without having to announce it publicly and getting a backlash just sort of giving them the tools and and waiting for them to figure out that they can do this and make it easy you know kind of like ever like tumblr was never like we could post porn here guys yeah and you know people just sort of did it on their own and it became like a cool way to look at some some titties and dicks i i just can't imagine the

58:51Chris Black:the uh employee morale is super high after this announcement that's all i just it just doesn't feel like a thing that needed to happen right you know right right right it just doesn't if it's also if you're you know i'm not privy to the financials but it seems like your business is doing pretty well you've become the sort of kleenex of newsletters like you're you're the dominating by far like no one can touch you i just don't really understand the need to do something like this i it just has stink all over it it just seems unnecessary it wouldn't be the first time

59:23Jason Stewart:that a cool platform was destroyed by year over year shareholder growth no of course no that that's

59:31Chris Black:what this country is built on. It just seemed like a surprising choice.

59:36Jason Stewart:I agree. But if you made a bunch of money and you work at Substack, congratulations. Gwen Stefani has an anti-abortion app. What do you think happens on this app?

59:48Chris Black:I didn't know that's what it was. I thought it was just like a right... I just thought it was like a general I'm bad now app, as far as her beliefs go. I'm bad now. People are really upset about the Stefani shift. it's interesting I didn't realize what she I guess I didn't fully realize like what she represented to people because I never thought of her that way like I never thought of her as some like counterculture I always thought of her as like a hot pop star that was like pretty cool I never thought of her

1:00:14Jason Stewart:yeah I guess her feminist punk origins when she first started you know endeared her to a large group of people and she

1:00:23Chris Black:was like she's not like Kathleen Hannah or something I understand that but I think people but now people are sort of acting like she I don't think Vince Funny ever said anything about anything either way.

1:00:32Jason Stewart:I think people just get upset about the hypocrisy like a lot of people had to reckon with Morrissey Gates once he became somebody. It's giving Nationalista a little bit too much. It happens all the time when these people who are lifelong punks, at least that's what you led us to believe, switch their style up and flip-flop. Nobody likes to see it.

1:00:56Chris Black:Part of me with her though feels like it's more we chose like i don't think she ever led us there we led ourselves there and chose to believe it and she didn't say anything either way yeah you can you can take the girl out of orange county yeah yeah but it's just like i mean once she married blake shelton you knew it was all that that's a that's a going from rossdale to shelton one of the ultimate fumbles seriously

1:01:17Jason Stewart:i mean that's it's enough to say like hey you know what guys i know we're in the middle of a you know national tour and i'm gonna headline at the sphere and blah blah blah blah blah but I really want to focus on an app that helps people not have abortions.

1:01:32Chris Black:I would hate to be what's the bass player's name? Tony?

1:01:34Jason Stewart:Oh, Tony.

1:01:35Chris Black:I'd hate to be Tony right now. Oof. I hate to be Tony right now. He's like, bitch, we're about to do this fear. Can you please go back to Montana and shut the fuck up for a little while?

1:01:44Jason Stewart:Tony can talk to her like that because he hit first. He hit first. He's a Ray J of no doubt.

1:01:49Chris Black:Did you imagine him being like I hit first?

1:01:53Jason Stewart:Because you already know Tony he's a quiet guy but you know you know his pimp hand is strong because he was tapping it right

1:01:59Chris Black:at some point he tapped first he hit first i bet that band quiet woman that band wouldn't exist without tony that's what people don't realize they think it's all gwen it's not it's tony i think isn't it all original is it still all original members or maybe they replaced a drummer

1:02:11Jason Stewart:once they got big big i think on like the second album they quietly sunsetted their like three

1:02:19Chris Black:black horn section kind of oh they had like a mighty mighty boss son ska style yeah yeah yeah

1:02:25Jason Stewart:they had like a small horn section and they were also like very like jumping around and like kind of mc like yeah yeah like the guy on the boss sounds you know just getting the party started

1:02:35Chris Black:ska style you gotta get the what's gonna happen if you don't get the party started yeah i saw a

1:02:40Jason Stewart:great a great ska bumper sticker keep honking or keep honking i'm listening to ska and you're in the band now that's actually really good very specific music does sound like a bunch of honking

1:02:57Chris Black:i will say i need to look maybe i'll listen to some scott i think we're gonna try to go to the beach later so maybe i'll put some ska on when i'm heading over the bridge get in the zone just

1:03:05Jason Stewart:you're gonna unplug the marshall bluetooth speaker from the hotel it's it's been charging

1:03:09Chris Black:the whole time babe don't worry did you know did you know by the way i found out recently did you know that orange makes one of those no i did not know that it's much cooler it there's the orange makes one. It looks obviously the same. It looks like a small cabinet.

1:03:25Jason Stewart:You already know Queens of the Stone Age got the influencer seating package.

1:03:31Jason Stewart:Do you want to talk about the Olympic figure skater who's capturing the hearts of the world? People are talking about the Waysian supremacy. How Cali Waysians are taking over.

1:03:43Chris Black:As someone who is well versed in wajian culture what do you agree with the list i've seen a list going around oh there's like a wajian ranking yeah there's a wajian ranking and it's it's there's there's some unexpected names i will say like people i had never really considered to be part of the community i don't

1:04:02Jason Stewart:know if i could find the wajian ranking list i mean this is on twitter obviously i know i'm looking on twitter but there's a lot of asian stuff on twitter okay i i know this i know this

1:04:12Chris Black:figure skater has like tooth jewels and like fun hair but her vibe is like i just like to skate like she's not super serious about it so people like it because she's so good she's like very i think

1:04:22Jason Stewart:people like her because she's bringing the left and the right together she's she has like piercings and dyed hair and she's skating to pink pantherist but also when she wins for her country she drapes the flag the stars and bars over her shoulders she puts her heart hand over her heart for the national anthem so okay so everyone's like this is how it's done y 'all i didn't know she skated to pink panther s oh yeah yeah and she's also kind of like bay with it yeah and people are comparing her to you know some members of fizz nation i know people seem to like her i'm not i

1:04:56Chris Black:haven't watched any of her i've seen the guy who's wearing like balmain skinnies who yeah he can do a backflip figure skating is really really straight really really impressive but i cannot bear to watch it like i couldn't care less but what about when you it's when you were smoking weed like if

1:05:12Jason Stewart:you're a little high and you just see somebody just totally nail their routine i think it i think

1:05:16Chris Black:winter olympics is one of the things that we pretend to like the most because i would say it's the thing where 50 of the sports being played are things that people don't know about and have never done themselves and have no understanding like i made the joke about curling is so crazy but it's also like even some of this cross-country skiing all this you know all this shit it's it's obviously it's incredible athletic pursuits and figure skating is probably one of the most i would maybe the most watched yeah i would say i think winter olympic sport and it's very impressive but i just the winter olympics i couldn't i couldn't care less especially there's a new season of love is blind and they're all from ohio are you crazy i remember you guys talking about that with kazzy d how could you possibly split your time you know how could you possibly go dual dual screen experience when you have something to concentrate on like

1:06:03Jason Stewart:that i was we were we were talking about micro dramas earlier and i was thinking yeah that um you know obviously you and i have no desire or interest to have micro dramas in our life but i was thinking we should have some micro documentary micro docs micro docs like a 90 second doc yeah i was i was watching like a little video i don't remember what meant it was it was the journal or new york times or financial times or whatever but it was it was the author or i think it was a new yorker maybe the author was telling basically like doing a little trailer for their written article and it was the first time i was actually like compelled and interested to to actually read and learn more that is smart that is smart people a lot of people you know listen to podcasts or just consume media in general with the with the sole goal and interest in gaining information and like, you know, whatever, info maxing their existence.

1:07:03Jason Stewart:The entertainment part is sort of neither here nor there. So I think it's just like info bombing in these little 90 second short doses is going to be, I feel like it could be an interesting thing because I love learning, but I don't want it to be more than a minute and a half.

1:07:19Chris Black:Yeah, of course. You're pushing me to the edge. I simply can't be arsed. I'm about to break. That is smart, actually. especially to get people to read. I mean, I think that the first step was the, you can listen to this article, but that still takes 30 minutes, which is probably too much for people.

1:07:35Jason Stewart:But just cutting things in a way that are like tried and true ways of presenting things that work for documentaries. I always believe a good documentary, it doesn't matter what the subject is about.

1:07:48Chris Black:That's real. I completely agree with you. That's why I know so much about sports. I'll watch 30 for 30 by any. Yeah. I don't give a fuck.

1:07:54Jason Stewart:I've got my guys. And we were talking also about the Vanity Fair article and people were upset about the misunderstanding of late night talk shows versus just people doing a podcast. I saw a tweet, this guy, somebody named Tim Spears saying, it seems like a misunderstanding of late night talk shows. They're not making, basically saying like all these people, you know, the chicken shops and the therapuses of the world. They're not making topical jokes for a dedicated daily audience. They're making evergreen content attempting to infiltrate the algorithm. I feel like that was the best sort of definition of the difference between the two.

1:08:37Chris Black:I don't, I think, I think ever, maybe not evergreen. Evergreen is quite generous depending on, but I see the point. I see what he's saying.

1:08:43Jason Stewart:They're trying to capture a clippable moment about their life or existence or a story that can infiltrate the algorithm. And they're not really saying any topical, dedicated things to an audience that tunes in.

1:08:59Chris Black:No. Why would I want that when I could hear Jake Shane ask Hayley Bieber what fast food she likes? That's all I know. I'm good, bro.

1:09:07Jason Stewart:Oh, my God. I knew you were going to ask me this.

1:09:11Chris Black:Yeah, no problem. Haley Weber loves fast food sometimes. I was so shocked with her answer. Check it out.

1:09:18Jason Stewart:But like the way I knew you were going to ask me this. Yeah, I write it later on today. Chris Jeans and I are going to go hit the Laker game at the Crypto Arena. A little Sunday Celtics Lakers show.

1:09:33Chris Black:I know you're going to be tossing back some$28 beers. No question there, fellas. Am I right?

1:09:38Jason Stewart:Yeah, the MX is going to get hit hard. It's going to hit heavy by 805 tall boys for 28 a pop. And also my brother said I was thinking we should hit the Barry McGee show beforehand, which already means I'll get a nice bass going.

1:09:52Chris Black:This is the most Chris Jeans day I've ever heard in my life. I mean, I didn't know. Where's the Barry McGee show? I saw one in Tokyo, actually. I stumbled on one. No joke.

1:10:01Jason Stewart:Probably somewhere downtown because it's freeze week. Shout out to my freezers. Big freeze in the building.

1:10:06Chris Black:Big freeze in the building. Yeah, we'll see you at the edition on Thursday.

1:10:10Jason Stewart:if delta allows yeah and i guess we'll post the link to get on the rsvp list which i don't think will guarantee admission you want to make sure you come early come uh come hot and obviously it goes without saying no straight guys are allowed they have just us um all right well

1:10:27Chris Black:thank you to the uh the nickel and the pinch my favorite hotels in charleston putting putting me up in a in a literal pinch um these that's nice well that the room this is honestly crazy it has a washer and dryer in it and it's really it's really a luxury that i've i didn't realize how bad i want because you don't even have one at your house uh no well it's in the building um

1:10:50Jason Stewart:in building and also shout out to all of our homosexual listeners that responded to me posting the tom of finland party flyer saying fuck it okay fine you can say it i i heard a little more of

1:11:06Chris Black:you've finally gone too far is what I heard.

1:11:09Jason Stewart:There's a little bit of that. They can't keep getting away with this, etc, etc. But I wanted to thank all of you for letting me say you guys are fags.

1:11:17Chris Black:It's huge for you. It's huge for you. All right. Thank you for listening. Howlongon.com is the website. We're back next week with more podcasts and we'll talk to you then. Later.

1:11:27Jason Stewart:Here's my white feather cocktail, dear Hunter. Likes to keep me cool in the hot breeze summer. Likes to push me on the screen John Deere mower I know you wish you had a man like him it's such a bummer when I met him like an arrow like a bird in the heart like a spear