918. - Chris & Jason

28:11Jason Stewart:needs to do everything but be great i think that harry's i actually think someone like harry styles is in a position where the label lets him do whatever he wants i do not think they're giving i really doubt that anyone is coming in and giving any sort of like actual feedback they're going to give feedback well then it's then it's his fault for being a pussy and not going not doubling down not going but that's what i'm saying to you that's what i'm saying to you i think he does it i don't think he wants to double down that's what i'm trying to say i don't think he's like at that point i mean i don't know if um coldplay is a funny example though you're totally i know exactly i just know exactly what you're talking about just you know british white guy stadium music everything's gonna be okay happy fun dancing we're not going to single out or make anyone feel uncomfortable in the crowd and when you do that when you round all the edges off you're left with a little squishy ball I don't know if a band like Coldplay or someone like Harry Styles has ever done anything but this though in their own way you don't get that popular doing anything with edges is the reality like really if you were in One Direction you're sort of you can have great taste but I think your DNA is kind of like this is what I know how to do pardon the pun but I wish that musically he would pick one direction and go with it instead of motherfucker went from one direction to all the direction i mean yo there's four directions bro can you pick one i mean i think that that is also which way yeah that is also the case of the the pop star who's like i need to do something different you know that's just what always happens at every level which i'll sort of i'll always understand but also never understand but again i have no skill so i'm just i like what i want what i want and that's not necessarily what you want to give me and that's fair.

30:01That's fair. Did you watch SNL?

30:03Jason Stewart:No. I only saw the clip of him doing the Tucker impression but I'm famously saving it for my Sunday night meal. The Tucker impression was pretty good. It was pretty good. I haven't watched a lot of Tucker but I could feel the spirit. There's a couple catchphrases that he says and I could feel them. I just knew they were real. I didn't need to know, but I knew they were real. It felt spiritually right, I guess is what I'm trying to say. It's interesting that now I've been seeing a lot of Tucker impressions pop up on my feed from him and other people who are not on television. I'm wondering why it's happening now that he's sort of, I don't know, he's not really in the limelight the way he was a few years ago.

30:52That's why it's happening now. I think nobody looks at it as like, I don't think he's seen as like a danger anymore. So you can just, so you can sort of just make fun of him. It's not, you know what I mean?

31:00Jason Stewart:Now that he's off the leash, he's a, he's a dog in a yard that we can just throw rocks out and have a laugh. And you know, he's going to, I don't even know where, where do you watch that show? Is it on, is it a YouTube thing? I guess, I don't know. Rumble, Twitch or YouTube. We don't, that's what I mean. We don't even know where to watch it. That's how, like, if you're on Fox news, like I can turn on the TV and hear what you have to say. If I got to search three times on three different platforms, it's a little bit of a different ballgame. Yeah. I mean, you know, I'm sure the, oddly enough, the only people that watch it are like people who are our parents' age who live in Appalachia.

31:35Jason Stewart:And Red Scare listeners are really the only ones paying attention to it. But I guess watching him whenever I do watch him in a clip, yes, he may be an evil person. but he's a silver-tongued talker, and he's smart enough to really engage and get the attention of people, smart and dumb, and it reminds me a lot of the Manosphere doc that I watched, the Louis Theroux. I don't know if you watched it yet on your ski trip. No, the only Louis Theroux I watched is when he tried to reunite the Libertines. That was more in my wheelhouse. Sure, sure. Legendary, though. Legendary. He's also in the new, he's in like a new nike air max 95 campaign in the uk which i found very funny but i i've heard good things though yeah it's i guess with him and and with tucker like you you see these people in the manosphere and you see how you know they're just very charismatic they're very good at kind of the jujitsu wiggling out of points and things and you you see how they grow in popularity because they're just like saying whatever they want and somehow, some way getting away with it.

32:50Jason Stewart:It was weird watching it because it's like when people watch Trump and you're like, this guy is evil. He's ruining the world. He's a pedophile, sex trafficker, blah, blah, blah. But every once in a while, he's freaking awesome. He's so funny. He says one thing, shut up, piggy, whatever. And it's kind of the same thing. I think the manosphere, all these guys are just sort of, it's all because of Trump, if you ask me. what do you mean it's just like he he showed he showed a nation of young men that you could kind of just say and do whatever you want and for the most part not really have any consequences and you can just kind of get away with it i'm gonna watch this maybe tomorrow but what is the i guess who are there like are they like prominent people that are featured like people we know the one i i had heard of sneeko he was the one person that i had already heard of but there's there's some other guys who are great so it's it's not like andrew tate it's not it's like he's in it a little bit he's in it a little bit there's there's like three main guys all like like two british dudes and then um and then the last one sneeko just him hanging out in new york but i think he's the most famous one he's like bros with kanye but what is sneeko what is his discipline is he a filipino no no i'm saying like what is his what is his platform for getting off his menosphere i don't i think he's on on kick or something like that or twitter i think he's he's been banned from every platform because he's very like oh he's that extreme kind of yeah but he's also like very good at arguing and he you know he kind of shuts a lot of people up and shuts them down but you know it's it's the the i guess the the slippery slope of it is when you see the footage of like you know 10 year old boys who see him in the street and run up and say like fuck n words and gay people should die you know there's like they just yell the most crazy stuff at these people in hopes that they're going to be like hey awesome like you're you're extreme and you're so and i've seen clips like that all the time where everything is all hunky-dory until you see a fucking you know 12 year old boy say like fuck gay people on camera in front of him god i didn't know that that's and instead of instead of saying like whoa whoa whoa don't say that that's bad that's wrong they're like oh you guys are crazy all right see you later stay up yeah there's not stay up i i just i guess i just don't you guys want a selfie like part of me wants to watch this because obviously it's interesting and of the moment, and we're talking about it.

35:23But a part of me is also like I just don't care. I don't know. I guess I feel like the world has tried to unpack this phenomenon so much, and it's sort of just every time the final answer to me just feels like they're bad. And I don't really know. I just don't know if I care where it stems from, I guess is my point.

35:43Jason Stewart:Okay. Well, you care enough about what's going on below deck to watch that, but this is the real world, Chris. But I guess I just mean like when people are this stupid, I'm not sure if I need to know what makes them tick. But that's – I don't know if I would call them stupid. Some of these people are more well-spoken and educated than we were at their age for sure. Being educated and well-spoken doesn't mean you're not stupid. That's too – that's too – I think it's – if your ideals are so like so dumb, I don't care how smart you sound when you tell me about them. Sure, sure. Like it doesn't, those two things, those two things are at odds with each other.

36:18Those can be, you can have a fucking, you know, you can have a degree from Yale and a master's from Harvard and still be dumb. That's not, you know, it's like those two things are different, at least for me. Okay. I feel you. I feel you. But I think these guys, but I think these guys, the other funny thing is I feel like these guys like to use the word like debate. Yeah. Like they like to say, like instead of saying argue or make, I don't know what the, I don't, you know, there's many other phrases they could use, but they try to say debate to make it feel a little more elevated i would say like a little a little more robust than them like bro you're in a you're in your fucking garage in miami talking to a camera like you're not like like don't act like don't act like we're in our fucking senior year at a prestigious boarding school and you know and we're it's it's not like you're not debating anyone you're you're sort of talking into the ether i guess they bring but then they they bring people on to to battle is that the

37:11Jason Stewart:idea yeah people yeah they they love to debate and then they all use you know straw man and this man and that man and it's it's like playing chess or whatever it's it's like hey we can't just have a conversation and live and learn and change and change each other's minds thoughts and opinions there has to be a winner and a loser it has to be classic or trash or else there's no reason in engaging in any discourse whatsoever if the you know it's like well i'm not gonna i'm not going to spar with you unless I'm going to win$30 million from Jake Paul or whatever. There's no point in arguing if there can't be a winner and a loser.

37:50Jason Stewart:And these guys are not, I guess, like you said, they're not so intelligent or well versed in the subjects. They're just good at the fight itself. Yeah. They want to fight. They want to be right, but they want to win more than they want to be right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They just want to win the argument. I just don't know. I guess I just don't know when we, it seems to me like this is the kind of thing and we're part of the problem like many other people in our position but we keep, I think, talking about it all the time and analyzing it is throwing gas on the fire and I think this is exactly an example of something, if it was completely ignored it would go away to some degree.

38:26Jason Stewart:I guess debated people debate people as they say and these are all survival mechanisms and these are all traumatized people who have come up in some one way or another and the only and unfortunately their survival technique is to tell their mail order bride to get in the kitchen and make them a sandwich while they live stream a video game. I think it's also ask women what their body count is. It's also the case of a movement to give it too much credit being it's ugly. like everything about it is aesthetically disgusting like they're on ugly platforms they dress like shit everything they say like it's almost like what they like before they even open their mouths I'm out but I'm like I don't like and nothing about this is appealing to anybody that has any sort of taste or decorum it's ugly it's like revolting I think because their core demographic are you know 9 to 19 year olds totally totally The inside of these 45-year-old guys' houses look like fucking Soulja Boy's game room or whatever.

39:41Jason Stewart:And unfortunately, their poor Latina wife has to clean up the cause sculptures. And she's hitting Fabuloso on the Supreme pinball machine. Hey, bitch, clean up that cause sculpture right fucking now.

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43:30It's sort of just a non-starter, I guess, is a good way to put it.

43:32Jason Stewart:What if there was a streamer for the rest of us, Chris? Instead of Big Clav streaming 24 hours a day for a month straight or iShowSpeed streaming for 11 months in a row and making$900 million in a weekend or whatever, what if there was just a couple guys, they did it for 28 minutes a month, and they look cool, they dress nice? What if you could see it on YouTube completely for free? This is just an idea. This is just something we've been kicking around. Yeah, and there's no situation where you cash up us$20 so we're forced to read your comment that says, Hail Hitler, on a stream for 11 ,000 17-year-olds.

44:17What if? We're proposing a different way, guys. There's a different way to do this. I did read that Kaisenat thing. that he, in his streaming career, which is not, I can't imagine it's over five years long. He's made$900 million, and that is why he's stopping, he's not going to stream anymore so he could focus on his abysmal clothing brand and his acting career. $900 million. Mm-hmm. Very impressive. That's, like, truly unbelievable. Like, I don't, that math does not compute for, I'm having a really hard time, like, putting that together.

44:53Jason Stewart:I mean, if you're going through it, imagine if you're a talented, famous person who's been doing this for decades and hasn't even hit a fraction of that. You know what I mean? Dude, it's - Like, we were just talking about Coldplay. They sell out fucking - We went to Oasis. We're like, damn, these guys sold out Wembley fucking three nights in a row. Coldplay is like, we do 12 Wembleys a year for the last 20 years. Don't get a start on Brazil. We'll shit on you. Yeah, all these people who are just doing so much. And Chris Martin from Coldplay does not have$900 million. No, no way. No way. And that motherfucker wrote Fix You.

45:31I know. Literally. That's a generational classic song, I would say. He's probably got two or three of those, really, if you want to get into it. Oh, yeah, real talk. If you really want to get into it. So the Oscars are tonight.

45:44Jason Stewart:Or Harry Styles. Harry Styles probably doesn't have$100 million in his bank account. and he's been making money since before kaisenot was a lot for sure or at least he was young he's just a little baby he's a little baby kai yeah the oscars are tonight in la and um yo yo caa lost the invite didn't get that invite to the party what's up with that y 'all i think that yeah i mean they don't they can barely they've they've never they can't return an email so i doubt the they don't know any home addresses but the good duchi didn't get my invite tonight either what's up with that we gotta get can we get mark on the pod i i yeah for sure for sure yeah he listens i know no he was doing the rounds this week because they they yeah a friend of the show matt bellany kind of give him a couple lashes on the pod a couple days ago i mean that's all matt bellany does so at least as long as it's not the other nerd i'm fine with it um the uh the the story what i'm seeing is that they're saying timothy blew it that he was supposed to win the oscar and this video of him talking about the the ballet and the opera not being good which also he said when he was 19 this is years old video has ruined torpedoed his chances to win an oscar in a two-week period or whatever three you know two to three week period and that michael b jordan or someone else is going to win that award and it was sort of his to lose and and who how did this video you know what they're saying it's an old school weinstein style smear campaign where where a lot of money is spent to sort of you know make of something like this popular i mean and viral yeah this this happened literally a year ago with emilia perez yeah same day yeah yeah i forgot carla sofia gasson you know a week or two before all the you know the the 10 year old tweets surfaced and boom it's over not that she was in the forefront to win but you know she was a contender and then no no she was she was no she was in the forefront to win or at least like one in two you know one or two it was she wasn't she wasn't like the dark horse i guess is what i'm saying okay okay but yeah it's i love this i love a weinstein style smear oh me too this is why i get out of bed in the morning me too but i also feel like there's been a lot more honesty around marty supreme as we've been removed from it a little bit i feel like now people sort of make fun of it whereas three months ago this was the best thing that's ever happened to us in our entire lives and it didn't take that it didn't take that long all it takes is one little look on the other side and then it's very you're like wait a minute you kind of wipe the little crusties out of your eyes and you say wait a minute marty supreme was a movie about a guy playing ping pong and that's it okay yeah i just don't i think a lot of things like that age poorly because you're just in the vortex of the promotion it's like exciting because something's happening every day and it's like you know timothy chalamet is wearing fucking chrome hearts you know to the knicks game and sitting with tracy morgan and it's just sort of like at a certain point it's like i just don't i don't know what age is well anymore like this is crazy because that movie hasn't aged well it's been three months like that's that's not even age that's not it's still you could still technically if you put that movie in the refrigerator you could still heat it up and eat it you know what i mean it's not that it's not that crazy it's not like it's been fucking 30 years like it's not like the the world has changed and our attitudes have changed you know it's like it's been three months and people are already talking about it sideways look the the gears of hollywood turn faster and faster exponentially as time goes on.

49:22Jason Stewart:I really like the I'm into the Sinners backlash where everyone is realizing that it's basically a remake of the film From Dusk Till Dawn 1996's action horror film. Yeah, it was what was it? It was George Clooney and Salma Hayek and I remember a young TJ enjoying Salma Hayek's outfit. You've probably seen a couple video vixen hoes dressed as her for Halloween over the years. Oh, because she was just wearing like a big baggy t-shirt and jeans. It was, she was wearing a snake, I believe. Like as a, you're saying the snake was draped over her shoulders like an outfit? That's right. There's been a lot of baddies over the years who have dressed like her for Halloween.

50:10I think of that snake, and this doesn't help me beat the charges, but as a Britney Spears thing. Yeah, well, this is pre-Britney. Pre, okay, I got you, I got you. So this was inspired by, this could have inspired Britney.

50:22Jason Stewart:I mean, it's very possible. I've seen a lot of women do a little snake play. It doesn't really get me going sexually. Oh, yeah, I know this. I know this. Jason sent me the photo. Yeah, you know this. I know this. Okay. You know this. So you're saying that sinners - But nobody's really going to va-va-voom like a 1996 Selma Hayek. Like, come on, bro. That's real. That's about as yummy as it gets. So you're saying that people have been - People are saying basically - Doing the research. basically saying like sinners is basically just from dusk till dawn and then the the sort of repercussions of that or the the realization of that is like if from dusk till dawn was even nominated for a single award when it came out there would have been like a holly a hollywood backlash so it's like is this a good thing or a bad thing have we come so far that this type of film is awesome and great and and celebrated or have we you know straight in the wrong direction where it's like, hey, you guys made this original concept 30 years ago, and we're just going to take it and recast it with some other people and give it a little different flavor and say that it's ours now.

51:33Jason Stewart:Isn't that what we have to do? I guess that's what every film does now. Yeah, I was about to say. That's what I was going to say. I was like, what is the argument here? Because this is what everything is. I don't think that – I guess the argument is we're not buying the IP and remaking G.I. Joe into a movie. We're just doing it. We're not going to have Donald Glover play Yoshi in the new Mario movie. We're just going to take everything and then change a little bit of it and boom, here you go. I think that's fine, honestly. I just don't know if there... And I truly believe this. Unless it's a personal story adapted from a novel, I don't know what...

52:13There's just not that much left out there, Jason. The Rockies are tapped. like I just don't know what I honestly like unless it's an incredible personal story I'm not sure a guy in studio city can sit down at his desk and type out something that will captivate millions of

52:27Jason Stewart:people how many how many more ways can a woman be left by her husband out of nowhere do we have left in us you know I mean I really I just don't think like I don't know I think that's why everything feels like something else because it sort of has to I don't know if we as a culture have the capacity now to digest new things if they're three hours long and challenging. It's getting harder and harder to create new things in this world as time passes, but we can't give up, Chris. We gotta always try to make some new shit. I agree. I wish more people would give up making movies, but that's a different subject altogether.

53:06Jason Stewart:Actually, speaking of from Dusto Don, I think on the last episode or one before, I said the phrase chon-chon, which was taken from donut baron Danny Trejo from Dusk Till Dawn where he asks or I guess maybe he orders a woman to give him some chon-chon. I always forget that Okay. I always forget that 48 % on Metacritic. Really? I thought that movie was kind of a hit. 66 on Rotten. 7.2 IMDb. I don't know why. It feels like one of those movies that I've never seen obviously but I've heard the title of but I don't know. I just felt like maybe it's just, it's a great title, obviously. Of course. But it just feels like something I've heard of a lot, but I guess it doesn't mean it's good.

53:49Jason Stewart:That is true. That is true. That's the problem with stuff. Can we talk about Little Bow Wow? Yeah, I got guns the size of Little Bow Wow, as they say. So he's going viral, no red meat, no pork. Bow Wow says that's the reason why he still looks youthful at the age of 39, and he posts a photo of himself looking. looking very unhealthy. He looks as if he's been poisoned or something like that. He looks like an ad for high cortisol, like an Instagram ad. Bow-wow going through it is what you're saying. He has beautiful eyes. I will say his eyes are amazing. Menacing, beautiful eyes. Maybe that's why he uses...

54:33Also, I feel like that picture is extremely portrait mode. It's really, really... There's a lot of blur.

54:40Jason Stewart:the background is blurred he's those piercing pitbull eyes are staring straight into your soul but you're you can do nothing but look at the inflated skull and discoloration of his overall existence but i think bow wow looking looking something wild i think bow um he looks like he bad turkey or something i swear to god the bodega is usually good i think i think i think he is trolling like i think he knows exactly what he's doing and he i don't know if he thinks it's funny but i think he knows that this will elicit a response like you know what i mean like i don't think well the the best response i've seen is photos that he posted bow wow posted on his own social media of him like eating cheeseburgers and fries and stuff like that like so maybe it is a bold-faced line he's just trolling well you know whatever bow wow gotta do who said that line that's oh it's from wanksta okay it got guns the size of a little bow wow yeah we ride around with the guns the size of little bow wow but also if you're if you have it's a great but if you if you have lil yeah in your name and you get older and you and you release the the press the press release saying hey guys don't call me lil bow wow anymore i'm a big boy you have to call me bow wow never do that never ever ever do that no people are gonna call you what you're gonna you know imagine lil wayne doing that it just doesn't work i was about to ask you has has has but i guess he has the alternative wheezy or wheezy f baby sure if you're looking to feel more grown yeah But you're right.

56:25He's never come out and been like, I'm no longer Lil. I'm big.

56:28Jason Stewart:Yeah. I think, yeah, lose the Lil. It's cleaner. I think what you have to do is just simply start behaving as if, you know, calling yourself Wayne. As an adult? Whatever. Just don't make an announcement that you're doing it. Just do it. Don't talk about it. Be about it, as they say. Yeah, I think that's, you're right. Like, I'll follow your actions, not your words. That's right. but yeah peace goes to Lil Bow Wow we are thinking of you don't come on the pod oh no no Bow Wow anytime baby that's ATL royalty right there man that's like Bow Wow is not someone whose music I've ever listened to but as a personality I have a lot of respect for him there's a fresh am I is there's a Bow Wow song called Fresh As I'm is.

57:21Jason Stewart:Yeah, of course. Fresh as I'm is. Yeah. That's a good song. Amazing, amazing turn of phrase. An unbelievable grip on the English language for a rapper. Yeen riding, yeen bumping like I'm bumping, yeen saying nothing to me, yeen fresh as I'm is. That song really does go though. That song's a banger. That song is a banger. Think ye is but ye ain't. Think you get a crunk like me but you can't. Woo! That's ATL. Oh my goodness. I'm about to put on a fitted. I can't even I can't help myself I'm about to put so so deaf in the building I'm about to put my fit in walk down bankhead looking for trouble that's crazy did you did you DJ last night no I did not DJ last night oh okay for some reason I thought that I saw that party I DJ I'm DJing next weekend next weekend okay my bad March 20th at Ronda friend of the show Tina Shay Zach Fox it's a party for DJ Fifi other friend of the show shout out Sophia and then I'll be before that I'll be we're going to be in Palm Springs we're driving back up Friday going to Bar Di Bello the restaurant in Silver Lake that is doing a little friends and family opening so going to bop in there you know with my leather tank top on you know my club gear and then walk across the street to Los Lobos it's an old school them jeans Silver Lake night is what it sounds like to me it is but I was thinking about this earlier where like so many of my greatest nights are like you know we're going to the club i'm djing with a bunch of friends we're gonna go get dinner before have a fun meal crack some jokes get a little buzz going go to the club have an unforgettable night but now the problem is this is a very there's never i've never done it to where it's like a very fancy restaurant like the type of restaurant that i would wear you know sure a nice you know the hundreds tea is at home this is more of a suit you're under a suit and tie shit now yeah but i don't want to go into you know sweaty ronda club it's fucking 90 degrees in la this week stop being a pussy bro go dave one mode just do it i mean i guess but like hold on hold on i got a lot of questions tinashe djs she yeah she's like in the edm world now she has this song i forgot what it's like no broke boys or something like that with i don't know there's like a mainstream like loser people edm so it's like it's working for her that she yeah she got on and it's you know it's like club space like tiktoker basic people denver red rocks raver kind of kind of vibe going on big yeah she's big but i'm sure that she has like cooler better taste in music hopefully but um you know once you get around and start hanging out with them djs and you see those little checks that they're getting for just standing there drinking fucking Class A Azul for 45 minutes instead of having to hire backup dancers and buy airplane tickets for them and shit.

1:00:17Jason Stewart:You're like, maybe DJing sounds like a great idea. No, we're going to get that Tinashe Alex Warren soon. We're going to get it. I swear, I'm putting it into the universe. I just didn't realize, honestly. She found a back door out of the Kia Asylum. Well, I was going to say, she seems like one of the more famous members of the asylum, but also beloved, kind of. Yeah. I feel like it's sort of, yes, she's a member of the asylum, a resident of the asylum, but people want to see her win. No one wants to see Bebe Rexha win. She's turning on me a little bit. Bebe might not even want to see herself win, the way she's acting.

1:00:54Jason Stewart:Which is one of the most endearing things a person can do, right? It's true. It's cool. That's when you really put your life on the line and become a true performance artiste when all else fails. When every studio engineer stops replying to your text, stops replying to your WeChat messages, then you start doing some weird shit like that. You gotta do some weird shit. I also, I sent you this picture in the chat earlier this week of Heated Rivalry's Hudson Williams leaving a party. And he, it's a real like Hollywood image of him sort of like in an outfit that was clearly, he was, you know, he wore for that night.

1:01:41It was borrowed clothing. And he's sort of dramatically walking out of a party smoking a cigarette and he's flanked by two women. Arm in arm. How would I say this? It's women that you don't necessarily want to be flanked by. And it's not, it's the least, it's like a photo that if it was different people, it'd be the most glamorous photo ever taken. but because it's him and these two women it's the least it makes hollywood look decrepit it looks it makes hollywood look depressing and i i just don't i don't i don't know what's going to happen to him i don't feel this feel this felt like a real death knell for him where the other guys upswing

1:02:18Jason Stewart:it is it is giving now there's another photo of the same series where somebody was lighting his cigarette you know in his group or whatever and he was a guy that was wearing like very dirty white new balances and I feel like somebody on his career trajectory you gotta you know while you're being popped up by a hundred people you gotta say hey guys you you you you get out of frame like I got too much going on I mean he I saw somebody on Twitter say that he you know despite looking cool and making you know mogging with a sig he is also dressed like Kamala Harris you know going to a dinner I saw that.

1:02:58Jason Stewart:I saw it. He's going cop mala with the fit. But the two women that are flanking him, they look to be maybe a little bit older. Maybe they're in the biz. And maybe they're holding multiple cell phones in their hands. So could these be women on his team? Very much so. But I just mean, when I'm thinking about, there's pictures of Harry and Zoe Kravitz going to the after party of Saturday Night Live last night. And they look amazing. the flashes are going off they're dressed great they look great they're surrounded by a crowd that is there's this can obviously look cool it's something we're used to seeing that looks glamorous and cool and i guess this photo proved how bad it can be like how unsexy it can really feel and i don't know you have to yeah somebody's got to step in if you're him but also if you are a member of his team like if this is a manager and a pr or whatever you should also know to stay back yeah while this pap is happening we're not walking arm and arm like i'm your new girlfriend also yeah that's not gonna you're dude we know you're not gay but you don't have to prove it this hard like it's all it's fine but i think that i think that also he's going out with almost the sole purpose of these particular photos being taken like this is kind of the whole point of the night well and open bar too open bar dude we don't even have to pregame it's already there but I also saw something with Dochi leaving in a paparazzi situation and she walked directly over to the crowd of people and signed one autograph for a 50-year-old man and people were like, hell no.

1:04:38Somebody paid that guy. It's an indiscreet plant. There's no way that a 50-year-old man likes Dochi enough to wait outside a hotel to get her autograph. There's just no fucking way.

1:04:48Jason Stewart:Yeah, because the value of a Dochi autograph, I'm assuming not you know maybe not worth the squeeze of that juice i'm not sure who the dochi autograph audience is who knows maybe there's an ebay marketplace that we're not you know fully aware of but i did i did find it i i usually don't believe those kind of conspiracies but this one i was like you know what that does sound fishy i'm seeing some dochi um you know dochi signed 112 dollars all right i mean who really buys autographs nowadays that's such a weird bizarre money laundry market isn't it It's very weird, but there's a lot of people that do, like there's always people waiting, even for lesser celebrities.

1:05:30But I think it's, I feel like it must be a volume game.

1:05:33Jason Stewart:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it must be, you just do this all the time and you stack them up. But I also think there's a world where like if you get a record signed by a musician, that's worth more money than like a douchy fucking glossy headshot or whatever. Yeah, I mean, it makes sense for like, you know, we're selling Jerry Garcia's guitar or like, you know, the Eagles fucking amp case or whatever. Like Hard Rock Cafe shit. Because that makes sense because it's people who are like, oh, I'm a huge fan of the Eagles or whatever, this legend, you know, Led Zeppelin. I also can afford this, you know,$3 million autographed Les Paul or whatever it is.

1:06:08Jason Stewart:how many dochi fans are like i have an extra 500 laying around to buy an autographed microphone of hers you know it's like it's where's the market it's a small small market it's exclusive as they say so this today yeah tomorrow aka today we will be announcing the just like heaven festival lineup so um you know pay attention there sneak peek teaser there's a good chance them jeans will be DJing again this year. I can't say who else will be performing. I wondered what you were going to tease here, and then I realized he's teasing himself. He can't let the cat out of the bag so easily. But there's been some other tease.

1:06:51Jason Stewart:They posted a little video yesterday of the crowd and getting ready, and then the song that was on the Instagram post was My Moon, My Man by your girl Feist. Dude, look, I've seen this. Could be an Easter egg. I've seen this lineup, and it is very good. I would say one of the more Chris coated lineups I've ever seen at a festival, which obviously makes me happy. It's making me very happy because the headlining band, it was also playing a different festival concert that my wife wanted me to get tickets for. So this is, I don't have to go to that other one now. I can just go to this and I also get paid.

1:07:29You can go to the one you're getting paid for. Yeah. What are the dates? What are the dates on Just Like Heaven? It's August 22nd. August 22nd.

1:07:36Jason Stewart:August 22nd. but yeah great lineup maybe maybe their best yet good little mix of of classic stuff and some new stuff as well some friends of the show some bands that have been on this pod before very excited hopefully we'll get the headliner on this pod and really have a i guess members of that band have have appeared on this pod already i think that the but yeah i'm looking forward to it i'll be there and i know you'll be there um thank you uh for listening howlonggone.com is the website we're back next week with some good pods to two of our favorite ladies in los angeles are on the pod i tell you what i tell you what we're yeah this is this is a unprecedented run of women i ran i ran into somebody that's on our guests our first guests of the week's team um at l and e oyster last night was over there with carolyn and al and uh jeff henny as well wow nice little little Saturday night martini dinner.

1:08:38I'd love to see Henny and Al together. I feel like they'd bring out the best in each other.

1:08:42Jason Stewart:Yeah, they like each other a lot. Okay, I assumed. But yeah, they're friends. They know each other. From years, yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't witnessed it, I guess, is what I'm saying. But yeah, that's it, bro. What did they say? What did they say? Oh, they were just like, oh my God, she's so excited. She can't wait to pod. And I can't wait to pod either. I don't know what to talk to her about, but I think we just key, right? Yeah, she's, yeah. They're not, she's able to key from all accounts. I'm key certified. When you have that many active businesses, you probably have something to talk, you know, you probably got something you want to talk about a little bit, I would guess.

1:09:21Jason Stewart:I'm going to play it like Rachel, how I play Rachel Zoe. I mean, there's a reason for that and I will play it the same. Thank you guys for listening, howlonggone.com and we'll talk to you next week. Au revoir.

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