In short
The hosts riff on celebrity culture, “founder”/industry jargon, restaurant bathroom scents, and recent pop-news controversies. They also debate a Louis Theroux documentary’s effectiveness, discuss manosphere content, and mock social-media outrage dynamics.
Guests
None. The episode is Chris and Jason (co-hosts). No additional guests appear in the transcript.
Guest backgrounds (co-hosts)
Chris and Jason are Manhattan-based hosts who discuss fashion/brands (Quince), personal finance (Rocket Money), and media/books/TV. They reference their own lives (London, Palm Springs, group chats) and their relationships (Chris’s wife Alex).
Key claims
- “Shop” is an industry term that normal people don’t use.
- Santa Maria Novella bathroom scents prevent food smells; their original scent is the only one worth buying.
- Chappell Roan’s “breakfast” controversy is meme-fuel and likely won’t stop.
- Zara Larsson’s abortion-joke backlash cost a $3M deal.
Notable examples
- Chappell Roan security incident involving an 11-year-old at a hotel.
- Louis Theroux’s Spain/“manosphere” documentary.
- OnlyFans “plaster girl” going viral on TikTok.
- Dave Grohl reportedly attending hundreds of therapy sessions.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOChibeca and Sky Rizzy
0:45 to 3:35
Discussion about the unique neighborhood name 'Chibeca' and a playful exploration of 'Sky Rizzy'.
“even though it does sound like a prescription medication similar to Sky Rizzy, where you might have complications like sudden death and internal diarrhea bleeding.”
Lotto and Relationships
3:35 to 6:05
The hosts discuss rapper Lotto's controversial pregnancy and explore the dynamics of modern relationships.
“Actually, yeah, Whitney, founder of Bumble, I'm going to give it to you because Cisco Systems feels a little corporate.”
Founders and Asylums
6:05 to 7:59
A humorous take on the idea of creating an asylum for founders and the need to hold them accountable.
“bathroom smells, but also no food smells, Jason.”
Dining Experiences and Bathroom Scents
7:59 to 11:50
Hosts share their recent dining experiences and discuss the importance of pleasant scents in restaurant bathrooms.
“And potpourri really be smelling like potpourri.”
Culture and Media Reflections
11:50 to 13:55
Conversations about media consumption, including a JFK Jr. show and a book called 'Gunk'.
“But anyway, I finished this book and I did some writing and then I had a little time.”
Critique of Interview Techniques
15:00 to 17:41
Discussing the effectiveness of interview techniques, particularly of Louis Theroux.
“With the southern accent who says, you know who's the worst at it?”
Discussion on Online Fame and Adult Work
17:41 to 19:26
Exploring how viral fame impacts careers in adult work and the need for versatility.
“If you're like, hey, I'm really hot and I fuck 100 guys a day, I feel like I should be rewarded for that.”
Celebrity Fashion and Aging
19:26 to 21:43
Debating Tina Fey's recent fashion choices and their implications on celebrity culture.
“I have to say, it was really, really funny.”
Consumer Culture in Fashion
21:43 to 23:54
Analyzing the societal implications of logos and branding in fashion.
“national treasure in many ways she's given us a lot of i mean you know we all here agree on 30 rock but I just found it, I don't know, I just found it very strange.”
Cuckoo Pop-up Event Discussion
23:54 to 25:45
Sharing thoughts on attending a women's fashion pop-up event and the dynamics involved.
“Okay, so maybe you would rather, instead of mommy wearing the Vivian Westwood corset, maybe you would prefer to see her in something more like a Cuckoo Intimates bralette or...”
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Critique of Industry Jargon
25:45 to 28:00
Discussing the preference for avoiding industry jargon in favor of clearer communication.
“Well, where you and I strangely sided with each other, which is, I would say, fairly rare, depending on the subject.”
Navigating Industry Jargon and Personal Experiences
28:00 to 29:10
Explore the frustrations and quirks of industry-specific language and self-deprecation in business.
“to avoid, to circumvent saying an industry term that could make me.”
The Language of Journalism and Medical Terminology
29:10 to 30:40
Discuss the complexities of jargon across different professions and the common misunderstandings that arise.
“And I would always bristle at that, but I didn't, I wouldn't speak up, you know.”
The Role of Reason and Humor in Group Dynamics
30:40 to 32:30
Analyze humorous exchanges about expectations of behavior in social situations.
“And I just wanted to thank you for that.”
Chapel Rhone's Incident and Celebrity Culture
32:30 to 33:50
Delve into the controversy surrounding Chapel Rhone's encounter with a young fan and its broader implications.
“No, but I'm saying like if I was like I'm going to jump off this bridge into the water, you wouldn't be like, hey, bro, don't do that.”
The Reaction to Celebrity Memes and Social Commentary
33:50 to 36:10
Examine the humorous and critical responses to celebrity incidents in the age of social media.
“All right, so you must live under a rock if you know this, but Chapel Rowan was doing, I believe it's Lollapalooza in Brazil.”
The Generational Divide in Celebrity Expectations
39:30 to 42:06
Discuss the contrasting attitudes toward privacy and fame among different generations.
“Unfortunately, I know that she's quadruple vaccinated and wears a mask to go to the bathroom.”
The Impact of Celebrity Controversies
42:06 to 44:36
Discussing the growth of Zara Larsson's popularity amidst controversies.
“And he's like, babes, we gotta slow it down a bit.”
Understanding Zara Larsson's Appeal
44:36 to 46:26
Exploring the demographics and appeal of Zara Larsson's music.
“I feel like she comes from a pretty good home already.”
Networking vs. Neck Working
46:26 to 47:27
A humorous take on the concept of networking in creative industries.
Dave Grohl's Therapy Journey
47:27 to 51:03
A deep dive into Dave Grohl's extensive therapy sessions and their implications.
“Because you know Dave Grohl is paying$600,$700 an hour.”
Foo Fighters' Musical Legacy
51:03 to 51:54
Discussing the musical legacy of Foo Fighters and Dave Grohl's career.
“I mean, it was the biggest alternative radio album of that, whatever, you know, two to three year period.”
Cultural Perception of Music Artists
51:54 to 56:00
Examining the cultural perception of Foo Fighters and their standing in music.
“And then this larger than life enigmatic personality.”
Reflecting on Iconic Musicians
56:00 to 56:56
The hosts reminisce about Jewel and her impact on their lives.
“In a way that I feel like doesn't happen anymore.”
Young Thug's Career Decline
56:56 to 58:26
Discussion around Young Thug's career trajectory and recent music.
“You know what's been discovered in my household, even though I told her about it two months ago, is the new T.I.”
Afro Man's Story and Music
58:26 to 59:55
The hosts share their thoughts on Afro Man's recent story and music.
“I'm glad to hear Grand Hustle Entertainment is still in this.”
Controversial Stage Incident
59:55 to 1:01:01
An exploration of a controversial incident involving Afro Man on stage.
“Jason, if I saw a lemon pound cake sitting on your fucking, cooling on your windowsill, I would be looking at it lustfully too.”
Nightclub Experiences and Transformations
1:01:01 to 1:02:52
The hosts describe their contrasting experiences from a restaurant to a nightclub.
“I saw a tweet saying after what happened to Dimebag, all bets are off.”
Critique on Horse Talk
1:02:52 to 1:04:21
Debating the relevance of talk surrounding horses in the media.
“And that felt like a great kind of transformation of environment.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:17How long gone? Praise him. It is a Sunday afternoon here in Manhattan. The courts are filled with Hoopers, Jason. It's not that nice out, but it's better than it could be. What's good with you?
0:29Jason Stewart:From the royal courts of London to the basketball courts of Chibeca, is what we called your neighborhood? Chibeca. That's what we're calling it. Chibeca. We are calling it that. Chibeca is a combination, of course, of New York's Chinatown and Tribeca neighborhoods, even though it does sound like a prescription medication similar to Sky Rizzy, where you might have complications like sudden death and internal diarrhea bleeding. Sky Rizzy, though, also sounds like someone that's stuck in the Kia asylum. Not to bring that up so early, but you know what I mean? Sky Rizzy sounds like someone that Dr.
1:04Luke gave a couple songs to back in the day.
1:06Jason Stewart:Okay, Sky Rizzy from the camp that Lady Sovereign brought you or some of the earlier Kia girls. No, I met Sky Rizzy at a camp in Malibu. It was actually really sick. We got along really well. We got a couple cuts together. She said she was Lotto's cousin, but I don't believe it. yeah shout out congrats to big lotto you got uh what did i saw a tweet saying her her album rollout is getting pregnant by a married man and father of three 21 savage hey man whatever it takes i want to know landscape how you can take the jc penny portrait photo of you know the rapper's hands on your pregnant stomach while you're married to a different woman the rules of engagement have really changed i must say he's probably look they're probably getting a technicalities.
1:56I'm sure they're separated. I'm sure it's not. He might got paperwork, but I don't think he's going to be going that absolutely brazen with it.
2:03Jason Stewart:You're saying 21 is not as savage as he claims to be. Oh, definitely not. No, definitely not. I think the savage is overstated with him. I don't think I'm the only one. He's a 21 softy. That's what Lotto told me. That's what Lotto told me. Speaking of the Kia Asylums, I had a little thought a few days ago and I jotted it down. I feel like we need to also create different asylums as our world expands beyond c and d level female pop stars how come they're the only people who have the asylum it's unfair i agree i agree once again the patriarchy is striking so i want to form the founder asylum oh we can put a lot of people on that shit how many how much time you got let me get on linkedin let me go to linkedin and go through my list let me go through my little list we need to publicly shame some of these founders in in a in a baby bb rexa style well i think that i mean jeremy o 'haris uh has been shaming some founders lately and gotten a little hot water for it but i think we could shame them without calling them nazis i think there's ways to shame them that are maybe a little more palatable for a large audience and it is at page six you know i don't and also nowadays ladies is founders too go and brush your shoulders off i i'm sorry and i didn't mean to forget that i just i'm trying to think of something a lady has founded in a startup way that i'm using on a daily basis you know what i mean if right right i mean besides starface i can't think of one i can't think of one i really do starface no i'm joking but i'm just saying like in theory it's plausible at the very least okay we got uh i mean rihanna is a founder of fenty beauty yeah but she's famous that doesn't count lizzo is a founder of yeetys lizzo is the founder of lizzo is a founder of a buffet don't even i'm saying i'm saying that that a female a founder to me has to be someone who comes out of the depths of startup vc private equity hell right to triumph with a successful not right right right rihanna i'm already rich let me start this business because i know it's going to work so you're you don't like co-founder of oxygen media oprah winfrey as a founder hell no no that ain't a founder that's a that's a famous person so we're thinking more we're thinking more um sandy lerner co-founder of Cisco Systems or Whitney Wolf Hurd, founder of Bumble and things like that.
4:21Actually, yeah, Whitney, founder of Bumble, I'm going to give it to you because Cisco Systems feels a little corporate. That feels a little more institutional to me, but Bumble is a great example of a successful female founder.
4:31Jason Stewart:Yeah, because she's empowering women and having fun doing it. Yeah. Exactly. Okay, yeah, so we'll talk more about the founder asylum as the week's press on so you got back from London I got back from Palm Springs I have a nice base coat Went straight to the club Went to Bar Di Bello, friends and fan I can't wait I heard rumor that Tim told me that he got Mikey to eat a tomato For maybe one of the first times in his life At Bar Di Bello Which I gotta say that's powerful Tomato that's not in the form of ketchup Or peschetti sauce Exactly, yeah, of course More so alongside a nice burratt yeah it was alongside a nice burrata but it's not like he picked off the vine ate like an apple but still it's it's it's moving it had olive oil it had salt it's moving in the right direction yeah it was it was probably little we we cored out that roma hit it under the sally with some olive oil and salt and chilled it down it's nice prep i uh i went to did i tell you i went to jolene when i was in london you know i'm talking about the bakery that has the sauna hats and all the crazy merch people love yeah yeah the dinner was the dinner was delicious it was really very very good but um but the most interesting part the restaurant was beautiful um and it was good to see shot and liam but the um the bathroom had uh santa marina novella popery popery and i have to say it's it's why every restroom why every every restaurant bathroom doesn't do that i i would have to i'm looking for the answers because that scent is powerful enough to rule out obviously the pasky bathroom smells, but also no food smells, Jason.
6:14No food smells. And I know that obviously restaurants shy away from scented can, et cetera, in the dining room, which makes total sense. But in the bathroom, if you're going to have fake ASAP or whatever in the dispenser, you should maybe think about an incense or potpourri program that would kind of take diners to a different place as far as their senses go. Something to think about.
6:40Jason Stewart:Chris Black not defeating the allegations as he said the phrase, who does your potpourri program? Not even who does it. It's even worse. I recognized it. That's the worst. Program spelled with two M's and an E at the end of the word program, of course. Yeah, it's like BBC program. Well, I want to, I mean, I know where your head's at and I like it and we do have pesky bathroom scents but a couple of questions just up top, super early on the up top on that. Do you ever experience pesky food smells in a restaurant bathroom? It depends. I mean, I don't think I'm personally. Some of that also buccos coming in through the ventilation system.
7:16I don't think I'm. I'm not getting the smell of the full lamb being broken down through the, you know, through the ventilation system. But I do think that I'm not going to the. I don't think I'm going to restaurants that smell enough, but I think that exists. Yes. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I think if I was eating hot pot four times a week, I'd probably get in a whiff of it in the toilets. But where I'm going, my white palate is not getting that action is what I'm trying to say.
7:43Jason Stewart:Okay. And if there was a faint smell of an artichoke steaming in another area of the building, you'll be able to go number one in peace. Okay. Next question. I've smelled the potpourris of Santa Maria Novella at all of their flagship locations from Milano to Melrose Hill. And potpourri really be smelling like potpourri. Like you open that little thing and it is a scent that is not necessarily enjoyable for everyone born after 1930. I can't help people's bad taste in scents. That's not my problem. But I mean, I will say the potpourri can be strong when you take it out of the bag. But if you let it simmer, or Sanjumarino Bella does sell a clay pot that I've purchased that sort of has a small hole that lets the scent out more gradually.
8:34Jason Stewart:Yeah, it looks like kind of like an old shell or like a sea. Terracotta. Yeah, yeah. A little terracotta sea urchin exoskeleton with a hole drilled into it, and that potpourri just kind of gently diffuses out. But still, I guess maybe a better question is, obviously, all potpourris are not created equal. They have different scents and smells and ranges. But do you have a scent or a potpourri from that brand that you could recommend that doesn't give grandma? No, there's just the one. There's just the original. Oh, really? From all – I've never purchased or smelled any other scents in Marie DeVille.
9:09That's the one that Jake Davis put me on to 15 years ago, and that's the one I've continued to purchase since he put me on. Y 'all some hoes. But I think in a bathroom setting, that strength is required. In a public bathroom. Well, yeah. I'm not going to say a high-end restaurant in London is necessarily a public bathroom, but it is more public than home. You know what I'm saying? But I think if you pour it out into a small bowl and give it a couple days, you're fine. And if you can't handle that, if you would rather smell the natural smells of a restaurant bathroom, then you have something else to kind of investigate in the mirror, I would say.
9:48Period.
9:49Jason Stewart:Okay. I guess speaking of living places and apartments, I was watching. Speaking of living places. Speaking of living spaces, I was watching a little love story, the JFK Jr. show. And I know, have you still only seen the first episode? Yeah. I just don't care. and I know it's good. Nobody tells me the music is great and the blah, blah, blah. I don't know. I just can't. I haven't gotten that. Has Alex, your wife, watched it without you? Yeah, she's watched it for sure. Yeah, for sure. And have you had any talks about it? No, not really. Okay. I mean, just sort of like it's good. Well, I was just bringing this up because there's a lot of, I feel like it almost might be hitting you a little too close to home.
10:34Jason Stewart:I feel like their lifestyle and apartment in New York is kind of your goals. I feel like their apartment is exactly like what your dream apartment would be. Yeah, but I know that from years of reading books. I don't know. I know all of that already. Although I will say a visual representation of it would be good for me to see. But I mean, I'm aware of it to an extent. The stainless steel, the this, the that. And also the arguments and the petty fights that they get in, very similar to you and Alex. very similar themes of your personal relationship and I was watching this and I was like Chris should watch this and he shouldn't let Alex watch this it's too late for that I do feel like the screaming matches in public is kind of a classic New York thing that they make look glamorous because they're so good looking but that's not if you saw that in real life in 2026 someone would call the cops or we'd have a hero try to step in you know a super citizen in but no i need to watch it i probably will eventually i mean i did watch i did unfortunately need to if you don't watch the manosphere documentary because i had it downloaded on my phone um oh yeah i finished another book in one sitting on the plane it's called gunk highly recommend gunk yeah it's really good okay gunk it's a great song from over mono uh i did not know that um it is a british author all right all right what does gunk mean what is well it's the name of a it's the name of a um it's the name of the nightclub that she works at in brighton there's like a teen like i like sort of it's quite it's sort of like a um like a not teen club but like a university student club that is only open during the the school year and they close during during the summer because it's so student heavy but highly recommend great name for a great name for a nightclub for you it's a great book and then also the cover is is weird and cool actually I really like it.
12:29It's like a candle. But anyway, I finished this book and I did some writing and then I had a little time. I needed like an hour to just decompress. And I did have the Manosphere documentary downloaded on my Apple device. And I did watch it and I was exactly right about it. Vindicated. And I'm proud to say that.
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15:18Do you know who's good at it? The guy from Louisiana. That guy's the best by far. With the southern accent who says, you know who's the worst at it? Is the Indian guy who hates everyone, that his wife is on it. That motherfucker chokes. He chokes. You can tell he ain't built for this. You know what I mean? Same thing with the guy in Spain. He's not really built for it. He's just not. You can tell. I think that they are, I don't know. It just went nowhere. Nothing happened. It was sort of like, these guys are bad. and they make money scamming younger men. And it was, that was kind of, I don't know.
15:50I didn't learn anything, I guess, is what I'm saying.
15:52Jason Stewart:Right, right, right. You are already a resident of the Manosphere. Exactly. This is for exposing this world to other people. When you live here. Yeah, no, I guess so. But I think that Louis Theroux, I mean, historically, I just think that he's very good at like not saying anything, like classic interview tip, you know, like let them hang themselves type vibe. but I also think he I don't know nothing he just didn't do any I don't know he just didn't do anything I felt like he showed up there and let these guys just do their thing and didn't really push that hard or like make fun of them either it was sort of like neither thing happened well he was probably a little afraid to do that in terms of physical yeah that's why you don't do that I'm saying you can't be if you're worried about getting duffed out by security then you should not be in Spain with a guy on the run that has security that that's all i'm saying i feel like he did a well enough job like you said letting him just you know stew in their comments and push back a little bit and let them kind of hang themselves out to dry i think he did it when they had the guy come when they had the gay guy come get jumped and he was just sort of like that's bad i'm like bro come on this is like that's like that's the what that's like one of the worst things i've ever seen on television that's insane like to lure that's like some like that's that's something that should not be happening in any sort of modern society and i guess what is he going to do it's not like he's going to step in like physically i don't know i just felt like i that's just not something i'd want to be a part of on either side i guess is what i'm trying to say right right just like i need to remove myself from this whole yeah like i don't want no i don't because i ain't going to get my ass kicked but i ain't going to stop these there's nothing he could have yeah the the predator Maxing that's really the last stop On the train before you know Murder suiciding your family if you Just like if you if you need to Hit and kill and hurt so Much that you target these People who the rest of society Sort of turns a blind eye on if you You know take out your Childhood trauma on them with the With your feet and elbows or whatever I did I did find it interesting though that There was one of the OnlyFans girls Got famous on OnlyFans from being the hot Plaster girl like she her job was to put plaster on walls and i came she went viral on tiktok for being hot while she was plastering and then left her career as a wall plasterer in like dublin to be a only fans model and work for hit the agency that that guy bought that i will say was a little plaster yeah that was fascinating that is cool i mean that really proves that even even in the adult world space doing what it is that you do is not enough anymore it is not enough to just be a model or just be a or just be a porn star or just be a hey you know i did the ultimate i i take photos of my pussy and asshole on the internet and they're like that's cool but do you do any other tasks or hobbies quilting plastering roofing textiles look i fucked i fucked 100 guys in a day but i can put a wall up I mean, you ain't ever seen people.
18:57But that's the problem.
18:58Jason Stewart:If you're like, hey, I'm really hot and I fuck 100 guys a day, I feel like I should be rewarded for that. And they're like, yeah, there's 10 people that do that every day. Not enough, bro. Not enough. And they also can give you a great quote on a solar roof installation, and they can rewire your Mustang. Yeah, you got to be able to do something. The competition is fierce out there. That's why we're hard up, bro. We can't do shit. No, no, no, no. I'm a yak of all trades. I'm a reneissance man, brother. yak of all trades i um i did watch some of the snl uk uh they came on last night how do you watch it as an american there's there's only clips on sky tv on youtube but they didn't it's like four or five clips it's like the wet leg performances a couple sketches monologue but there's not the the weekend update because i guess they went it's apparently like the anchors are hot and they went crazy on prince andrew and it was really good but obviously that's being throttled by the government But there's a guy named Jack Shep who did a Princess Diana impression at David Attenborough's Last Supper that was very good.
20:03I have to say, it was really, really funny. I think it's going to be good. You're the only person who seemed to have said something positive about this, so I'm curious. No, that's not true. I've seen a lot of positive stuff about it. I've seen a lot of positive stuff about it. Crazy how the internet works. Well, I just don't think that it's like, I mean, there's no reason for Tina Fey to host it. and we're not going to be able to watch it anyway, really. You know what I mean? Because it's going to be like, there's going to be some weird rules about distribution.
20:29Jason Stewart:I'm going to have to pirate with my VLC player. Well, we'll get Jack Shep on the pod. But I will say that Tina Fey in the Vivian Westwood corset made me feel funny. I did not like that one bit in her promotional photo. Because it was too mommy for you? No, it's just like - Chris, was it too mommy? No, no, no, I promise. No, no, I promise. it's just like what are we what are we doing like you're in your 50s you look great but like you know what it is I think celebrities I know some of them care more about clothes than others and you know etc etc and someone like Tina Fey has been famous for so long she hasn't dressed herself for you know in front of camera for a long time but maybe put your foot down maybe say the Vivian Westwood corset isn't for me you know have that agency as a woman as a powerful woman in Hollywood would yeah i think that would serve her better well just just like all the folks in the manosphere she has you know turned 50 something and has become cool hot famous and rich thanks to you know many different reasons and she wants to go back and relive high school again just like taylor swift and sure whoever i think you're right i think you're right i mean tina fey is a national treasure in many ways she's given us a lot of i mean you know we all here agree on 30 rock but I just found it, I don't know, I just found it very strange.
21:52Okay. That particular.
21:54Jason Stewart:I'm going to have to dig deeper onto this image of her. It's like a corset and she's got the Yiddies poking up, right? It's just a Vivian Westwood corset in 2026 is for a 14-year-old girl. Like it's not, that's not adult. That's just not for any adult. There's no adult that would wear that. Okay. Because Vivian Westwood's had the obviously legendary British design. Like I understand the homage that's being paid. Sure, sure. Because of the popularity of the logo and the jewelry, it's turned into, like everything else, it's like probably making more money than it ever has, but it's literally for teenagers only.
22:25Jason Stewart:Okay, so just because of that sort of ubiquitous crown, jewelry, necklace, charm thing, so now it's suddenly just become a status symbol for teenage TikTokers along with their Margiela Supreme Hoodies zips. There's a hundred people in the, in line at the Vivian Westwood store in West Hollywood all the time to buy a jewelry, you know, affordable jewelry. Right, right, right. Great for business. Great for, you know, same thing with all the, every brand just has their one little, like Prada makes a thousand different garments as a billionaire seamstress. But you know, nine, 99 % of the shit is just like a nylon bag with the logo on it.
23:05Well, you know, I found out when I was in, um, when I was in St. Moritz, uh, Leo, uh, from Levi's is a big Prada guy. And he was like, yeah, there's actually, because I guess Miss Prada loves St. Moritz and has like a house there. So there's a couple different Prada stores. And one of them -
23:19Jason Stewart:Miss Prada really makes her sound black. Go ahead. That's what everybody calls her. I don't like it. And there's a, apparently one of the stores has a sort of several garments that are logo free and cost more. And that's one of the only places to get them, which obviously I wanted to hear more, but ran out of time. So, I mean, I could be wrong. I could have misunderstood what he was telling me, but he seemed very knowledgeable on the subject, and I was very interested in the idea of paying more to not have a triangle on every piece of clothing that you own. Quiet luxury, quiet luxury. Okay, so maybe you would rather, instead of mommy wearing the Vivian Westwood corset, maybe you would prefer to see her in something more like a Cuckoo Intimates bralette or...
24:09Jason Stewart:Exactly, yeah. A Paloma wool scarf set. Yeah, exactly. Scarf set. Something more, yeah, something tasteful, but for the same age group of 14-year-olds. I think that's what we're getting at. That's for cooler 14-year-olds, yeah. Cooler 14-year-olds. Later on this afternoon, after I finish on my work, I will be attending a cuckoo pop-up with Carolyn at Wilds today. They should not allow men to go to that. That's what I was saying. Am I going to be the only fucking perverted straight man up in there? Yeah. Honestly, keep your head down, bro. Don't be looking around. Don't be like. Carolyn said that I'll wait outside with my favorite drink and my iPad while she goes inside, but I shouldn't go in.
24:54I would stay in the car just to make sure you're not spotted because you do stand out because of your height. So you could. Put the cayenne in dog mode. You could be. Just lay down in the back seat. See how far back the seat goes. Just take a little nap like a cab driver. I think that's something to think about.
25:10Jason Stewart:Actually, I already have the seats moved because I was hauling stuff at Home Depot yesterday, getting after it. So I'm ready. It's campsite ready. Yeah, exactly. Just bring your sleeping bag and just do your thing for an hour. I'm going to bring a sixer of Skyduster and grab a little baguette. Skyduster sounds like something you huff from Office Depot, but I assume that's an IPA. It's like a local LA beer brand that a lot of people have. Apparently, it's run by a Canadian drunk guy, which is exactly who you want to be selling your beer, right? Yeah, I wanted to talk about the argument we got in in our group chat with David Cho.
25:49Not argument, but discussion. Heated discourse? Well, where you and I strangely sided with each other, which is, I would say, fairly rare, depending on the subject.
26:00Jason Stewart:We only really come together when we are coming against the Asian man. Yeah, exactly. But the word shop, when you're referring to an agency or a production company or some sort of creative business, I am personally allergic to industry terms. I hate when I have to hear you say lower thirds. I hate all industry terms. I think they're annoying and they're exclusionary and I understand why they exist. I try not to use them. When people say Sandy Bullock, the list goes wrong. Exactly. I hate it. Yeah. That's a really great example. Don't call her fucking Sandy. You don't fucking know her. But so I don't like the term.
26:41Like when people talk about, oh, I'm starting my own shop. I'm just like, you just sound like a LinkedIn bozo kind of to me. And Cho tried to claim that shop is a universal term. And then I used my father, a longtime small business owner and accountant, as an example of someone who, if you said shop, He would think of a high school class where you work with a saw or a place to go spend money in exchange for goods. And he acted like I was fucking insane. And you, the rare voice of reason, TJ, weighed in and said, no, no, I'm actually with Chris on this. That is an industry only term. Real regular people with normal jobs who didn't like intern at Droga 5 or do write copy at Widen and Kennedy do not know that term.
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27:28Jason Stewart:I would say, but the shop, I think it also transcends beyond the creative worlds and into, you know, VC and private equity. Yes, yeah, of course, of course, of course. Legal firms and things like that. Like, yeah, we're going to go down to Charleston, open up a little shop and just kind of move some things around, blah, blah, blah. I just don't, I just find it, I don't know what it is. I'm trying to think of other terms like this that bother me, but they all bother me. and obviously I'm part of the problem, but I really try. I will say extra words that maybe even make me sound dumber to avoid, to circumvent saying an industry term that could make me.
28:06Jason Stewart:You will gladly take three right turns instead of one left turn if it means not having to do the shot. You know what? Just go around the block. Just go around the block. I'm just going to avoid it all gone. Maybe another way to distinguish it and we can combine this with one of my peeves is it's a small business that is owned and operated by people, not so much distinguishing whether it's a creative firm or not, but more so it's owned and operated by people who, when they're explaining something to you, they use the word right. Yeah. They say the word right to themselves as a punctuation every sentence to make sure that you are following along to their master plan thesis that they are getting the pleasure of being spewed to.
28:52I love getting spewed on. I, yeah, I don't like that either. I'm trying, I'm just really trying to, I only, you're right. It's a very certain kind of person that says shop. And I feel like it is, you're right. I think it started, to me, it came from creative agencies. It came from like big agencies. And a guy would leave his agency to start his own and call it a shop. And I would always bristle at that, but I didn't, I wouldn't speak up, you know. But now that it's been bastardized by the VCPE community, you know, we're all moving to Austin to start my own shop, it feels like an easier thing for other people to join in on the hate train with me.
29:30Jason Stewart:It's kind of like you're just like the de-badging of the Prada. It's like you could leave your business and then go start a new business and that's fine. But once you start saying, I'm going to go open my own shop, it's like a reverse sort of like I'm trying to be self-deprecating i'm just doing this little dinky thing yes it's fake exactly it's fake it's fake self it's fake self-deprecation it's like you're absolutely right like i'm trying to minimize it's it's compliment fishing oh my little shop we've only got 20 million under management like when people say like oh where'd you go to school i went to school in boston yeah just like little kind of things and you're like well you you can say it in a douchey way and you could say it in a normal way well luckily now you can you know find out any of this information i just i just remember when i first started writing and somebody would ask you know ask i would the first time i saw a tk in a document you know i was like i don't know what the fuck i still don't know what that means i still had to ask somebody i still had to ask people what that meant you know what i mean and like now you can obviously google that and you know everything but everybody knows every industry term so it's like a head and a deck and a tk and a fucking whatever in in in journalism exists a slug line a tagline every industry yeah oh god that all the hollywood shit is footer all all the hollywood shit's the absolute worst you know what i mean log line go to hell uh hollywood shit's the fucking worst but every industry has it and i'm thinking like imagine if if i was like you know at dinner with some doctors and they they had like they must have it too they they have to have it or is it just medical terms that that that we would never know do you know what i mean is it is it actual vernacular or is it just the words and we're so unfamiliar with them that it would feel like like industry speak you know what i'm saying just like oh like i'm sorry hey guys i know you're talking but like what does af mean and then everyone laughs i'm like anal fissure you fucking idiot we can't write it on the chart i'm sorry i didn't go to medical school i didn't write on the chart oh i yeah i just i i something about that that argument i felt i felt weirdly
31:42justified when you chimed in and backed me up. And I just wanted to thank you for that. Even though it wasn't charity, I know you just were expressing your honest feelings. It meant a lot to me.
31:51Jason Stewart:Well, I would say you're welcome, but I guess I'm not going to because you said in a rare moment of a rare voice of reason moment. So I'm going to take my words back. Well, I don't think you ever aspire to be the voice of reason. That's not your function. You're more of a funky cat than that. That's not what you're trying to do. You leave that for boring people. I'm a funky cat with reason. No, I'm not saying you're not unreasonable. I'm just saying in a group setting, I don't think you're the guy that's trying to come off as the voice of reason. Ever. No, I'm trying to come off as the voice of reason and the funniest one and low key the hottest.
32:33No, but I'm saying like if I was like I'm going to jump off this bridge into the water, you wouldn't be like, hey, bro, don't do that. That's dangerous. Like, be the voice of reason. Wrong! You know, you'd be like, yeah, bitch, do it, pussy. That's what you would say, and you know it.
32:45Jason Stewart:No. You know that's what you'd say. If I was going to - No, I'm afraid of the big jumps. I know you're afraid. I know you're - If it was something that - I know you're afraid of them, but you want to see me do it. That's what I mean. It's not - I'm not saying you would do it. I know you would. I'm saying I would never call you a pussy about something that I'm also a pussy about. That's - Oh, okay. Let me be clear. All right, all right. If you - Okay, here's a better example. We're at a red light. We're at San Vicente and whatever, and it's time to turn right, and there's a car in the lane, and it's a very thin needle that you have to go into in order to turn.
33:17Jason Stewart:You got to punch it. Right on there, and let's say you're a little too cock shy to thread that needle, and I'll just wait for it to turn green. I'm not in that big of a rush. Then I'll be like, do it, pussy. Bring those side view mirrors in and bring it in, you little fucking bitch. Yeah, that's fine. And that's fine because if we get hit by the oncoming car, then we're both at risk. So it feels like you have some skin in the game in that case. Ooh, yeah. TJ turns into T-Bone. Am I right? My legs are bleeding. Let's talk about Chapeau Rhone. Oh, dude, I even wrote this down. That's how egregious it is.
33:55Oh, man, dude. All right, so you must live under a rock if you know this, but Chapel Rowan was doing, I believe it's Lollapalooza in Brazil. Wouldn't come to Brazil, you know, becomes real.
34:07Jason Stewart:Listen, don't come to Brazil, bitch. And she was in the hotel lobby, or the breakfast at the hotel, and the story goes an 11-year-old girl saw her. Like, wow, you eat breakfast? Fucking fatty. An 11-year-old girl saw her and sort of didn't approach her, but like looked at her and smiled or made eye contact in hopes. Walk past her table the way a child would walk past a Disney princess at Disneyland in full shock, awe, and wonderment. And then after that, a security guard approached the table and berated the 11-year-old girl and her family. And unfortunately for Chapel, the 11-year-old girl's step...
34:46Her father is Jude Law, but the stepfather who was there is some famous football player whose name I can't even say. He took to social media to let her have it, and now chapel has responded from bed saying she don't know who that security guard is he doesn't work for her and that she quote unquote loves children which i think all of it is true except for the part that she likes anybody um i think i think the security guard could have been like hotels you know like not her personal security therefore she has no jurisdiction over what he
35:19Jason Stewart:does right it was it was a super citizen security guard who was working for the hotel and he's like I'm going to go secret service mode on this fucking 11-year-old heiress. But the problem with Chabarone has too much. I'm going to slide tackle this bitch like Ronaldinho. She's got too much bat. She's proven to be this kind of person too many times. So if anything happens, everybody believes it. Everybody believes it. And I have to say, the memes are unbelievable. The memes are incredible. I mean, that's the beauty of things like this, especially in the Twitter world. It doesn't matter if any of this happened or not.
35:55Jason Stewart:it doesn't matter if this is full fabrication it doesn't matter if all those you know instagram story reply apology posts are ai generated just the just the setting that chapel rhone wants to physically attack and kill small children is funny it is it's a it's a premise that will last all weekend long i saw i saw one that's like charlie xcx does cocaine with 11 year old in the hospital showing how cool she is to the kids it was a make a wish do cocaine in the hospital but yeah i mean i i wanted to know because there's also rumor that she's saying i don't play about breakfast chapel and i was thinking that sounds like maybe a tj tweet from 20 2008 is that is that so far off base don't don't be playing on my plate now don't be playing on my plate because i know i know you don't eat breakfast now but at one point could you have been so in love with breakfast food that you say i don't want i don't play about breakfast it sounds like something you might say the irony and where i am relating and i'll let i'll explain this while i'll let you watch that click on that link that i sent you on on the text message but i never eat breakfast at home but if i'm in a hotel you know i'm gonna in a month from now i'm gonna be or whatever two months from now i'm gonna be at you know i'll be in new york saying at nine orgy or whatever and you best believe it's breakfast time 7 a.m let me get the uh you want bacon or do you want avocado with that yes hook it up let me get a green juice orange juice red juice black juice coffee tea you know fuck it all up this episode of how long gone is brought to you by our new sponsor car gurus i'm a car junkie car shopping is a is a pain in the rear jason we all know that you know you go to the dealership you got a hassle with these bozos you're trying to leave that day they don't have the color they don't have the interior finally go to home your side chick keys it meet car gurus discover a new search feature where you can look for vehicles based on the way you think using your own words no more being boxed in by filters i hate when filters do that whether you want to get great gas mileage for road trips or extra extra trunk space for the whole crew.
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39:12Jason Stewart:But Redfin isn't just built for endless browsing. It's built to help you find and own a home. With agents who close twice as many deals, when you find the one, you've got a real shot at getting it. Get started at redfin.com. Own the dream. It's well documented that you like free food almost as if you couldn't afford your own. That's on record. Yeah. That's proven. But Chappell, she may come from humble beginnings as well and she may have um you know food desert trauma just like your boy that's no i'm not saying that i'm that doesn't mean so you know don't get in the way of my place i just think that her her attitude about fame is so crazy and i just think that it is a generational it really is like a generational difference it's it's like some some gen z i don't owe you anything like boundary shit that like we just don't have like it really feels like a different type of person a different approach to life and no amount of money like scolding a paparazzi photographer like what do you think that's gonna do he does not give a fuck about you he probably doesn't even know who you are he's not going to stop you're not gonna you're just gonna look like a bitch what's the what's the point you get off your chest and you feel good i don't know i just don't know what the point is of her constant either stop doing it because that's part of the job for better or worse or stop complaining there's just no there's no it doesn't it's it's fruitless it's an exercise that goes nowhere well i think that all of all of our pop stars and famous people they sort of have been categorized because that's just what people do now instead of like enjoying things we have to like organize them and categorize them and put them into little boxes and places and different areas of society they all need their idol to look up to and she's sort of like the karen idol like of that type of person who's just like that annoying ass bitch yeah she is like no she is the mother of that and that legion is strong enough to have her you know be hoisted up to you know the top of the charts and become you know a giant massive success well representing this group of people that are not good.
41:31Jason Stewart:Unfortunately, I know that she's quadruple vaccinated and wears a mask to go to the bathroom. I don't know. She might be an anti-vaxxer. Who knows? No way. She's like, don't play with my white blood cell count. Unfortunately, I do love her music. That's the issue. She is very good at making music. the problem pink pony club pink pony club is an all-time absolute smash as good as a song can get for that sort of music you know that is like alt unbelievably good and i have to put respect on her name um but this stuff will i mean when boy george said like bitch relax like this is just part of it people killed it you just it's just so funny how mad it makes people including me him saying that while he's wearing like prosthetic Lucifer makeup with like an 11 inch cock.
42:30Jason Stewart:And he's like, babes, we gotta slow it down a bit. You're just too crazy, babes. What do you mean? Yeah, I think it's, I just wonder what happens because it's only gonna get, like unless you stop putting out hits, which I think would literally be impossible for her. Like I think that, what happens? It just, I don't think this is gonna change anytime soon for her. I don't want it to happen because she just keeps, as she becomes more and more of a villain of society and butt of memes, her stage sizes and her audience sizes only seem to grow. So like we maybe as everything has been, you know, categorized into little areas and we have our, you know, work from home, war, you know, discord server, stand account battles or whatever, you know, we need villains for our trusted Zara Larsons to fight against in the idol wars.
43:24What did Zara Larson, what did she say? She lost three million for saying what? She had like a three million, there's something where she was like, I lost three mil for saying something. I can't remember what it was.
43:33Jason Stewart:Maybe it was Gaza related. Dude. Or Zara related. There ain't nothing on earth saying. The store. Anything I can think of that is more important than three million dollars. Like I don't know what I would say. Oh, I got it. Zara Larson says her viral abortion joke cost her a$3 million deal. Quote, I don't give a rat's ass because I'm sure of my stance on that. Okay, Zara Larson, have your stance. We're probably with you. We probably agree with you. But you don't need to... You making a bad joke and losing three milli, that's just stupid. I don't think so. I don't think so. I think she'll make that lick back.
44:10She will not make that lick back. $3 million to be in a fucking Instagram video? I'm not talking about hard work. She flushed$3 million. She's not a comedian. She made a joke and it wasn't good.
44:22Jason Stewart:Yeah, but she's at the beginning of a very quickly ascending career. She's going to make$3 million five other ways in 2026. It don't matter. No one can afford to lose out on$3 million. Everyone wants$3 million. I feel like she comes from a pretty good home already. Her parents would help her out with rent if things really get bad. Oh, I'm not saying that. I just mean like you're not a comedian. You just lost$3 million on a joke that was bad. I don't know. I think what's going to happen is someone, a different company will come out and say like, hey, we're going to give you$3 million because we believe in what you say.
45:03Jason Stewart:She's like, great. Thanks for the$3 million. I'm going to keep it instead of the abortion relief fund that I could donate to. Yeah. Yeah. If she gets it now, she's got to donate it. What is Zara Larson? I don't know anything about her except what she looks like. I know she's got hits, but it's like bad, brain-dead EDM vocal vibe. I haven't really listened to it. I did hear Zach Fox play a song, like a techno-y, hyper-poppy remix of one of the songs. I didn't recognize it. But I know just from what I've seen online, it appears that her target demographic are like K-pop demon hunter age people. it's like eight year olds coming up on stage and performing with them kind of thing that that isn't that's what i assumed because it doesn't really i see a lot of pictures of her scantily clad but no one i've never heard her music or talk or anyone talk about her music really i mean yeah she's huge she's blowing up people like her music but it does seem like you know music for children like k-pop demon hunter does she have a spicy but she has a spicy personality maybe i don't know i mean it's just a blonde chick that looks swedish so as as spicy as a swedish person can get which is like dijon mustard sometimes those swedish people they don't even know what they're saying no offense to my swedes love y 'all love y 'all love my swedes because their their native tongue is so sing-songy you mean stockholm is the motherland but yeah zara might who knows bro zara might have been living in the valley for 20 years she might have acclimated we don't know we don't know that's true there's no way of finding out either there's no there's no way to find out where zara larson lives there's okay just a just a quick aside i i think screenshotted a great instagram story some guy had a neck tattoo and he was showing it and one comment said this phrase which i think transcends the comment section it could be work could be use in other future premises in our lives are you networking or are you neck working oh 100 emoji hands up emoji i know some i know some gay guys have gotten ahead in creative industries from networking for sure it ain't okay i see that i see the difference now i see right neck neck working neck working is really funny and then to me i say why why not both you know what i mean oh no of course i would never yeah yeah whatever you gotta do to get ahead you know we support that here on how long gone that's no yeah babe yeah i gotta go to vegas this weekend it's just some neck working event you wouldn't want to go babe no i'm at the conference i've been doing some neck working after dinner it's uh it's going pretty well so far babe but i'll give you a call tomorrow when i'm when i'm at the office all right uh i want to talk a little dave grohl he's he's been going to therapy six days a week uh after he was discovered to be fathering a secret family it's crazy it's crazy that nobody he spent all this money and no one told him about substack it's just crazy that he didn't he had an opportunity to monetize his pain and instead he's been spending so apparently i saw some sort of fact where dave girls he's been to like 500 or like 450 therapy sessions in like a obviously very short amount of time yeah to me it reminds me of like when you when you're watching some like horror movie or some like psychological thriller and like some crazy guy like kills kills somebody and then he like freaks out and starts crying and he starts to try to like you know like i'm gonna sew the arm back on and that's gonna make it come back to life right and then everyone's like please just stop and he's like no i'm gonna keep uh you know it feels like at a certain point don't you just get the do you need this many hours of therapy to get through what happened well it depends on what that prenup's looking like jason because if i mean but i mean at a certain point he's hanging out with his therapy he's spending more time with his therapist about cheating on his wife than his wife yeah she probably likes that exactly she's like i can get this motherfucker out of here imagine if you hung out with your wife six days a week nobody wants to hang out with anybody six days a week that's i mean six six well it's what I guess I want to hang out with my wife six days a week.
49:10I don't know if I want to pay for it. That's the difference. Because you know Dave Grohl is paying$600,$700 an hour. He ain't going to some. He don't got insurance. Right, right, right. This ain't covered. But maybe this is karmic retribution for the Foo Fighters. You know what I mean? Maybe this is. I will say, and I hate to admit this, but I was listening to a Foo Fighters song recently and forgot how good it was.
49:35Jason Stewart:Hopefully it was early Foo from the album. Big me. Big me. Yeah, yeah. What a classic. Unbelievable song. But Dave Grohl, as the drummer of Nirvana, one of the most beloved bands of all time globally, obviously he's had an amazing, fruitful career, but I would say that maybe no one, he's one of the greatest examples of going the wrong way and benefiting him financially and every other way not benefiting him. Like, you're the drummer in Nirvana. like that's that's you that's it you're good for life but foo fighters have put out 10 albums that are bad at least you know and i don't know if he recovers from that but he's everybody loves him so he must be a great guy i wonder except his wife i'm trying to think if there's any other parallels where that's happened maybe new order is the only one i can think of where like the cool amazing front man who is you know larger than life and the reason why it's all happening dies very young and the rest of the band carries on and i'm sure in you know 1983 when new order first came out all the joy division heads were like this is some fucking bullshit but i mean i'm a huge new order fan so same if we were born if we were 20 years older would we be clowned for liking new order the way somebody who listens to foo fighters would be very very very possibly i I mean, but we were, you know, we technically, I think because of our age, I think we're supposed to be Foo Fighters fans.
51:00You know what I mean? As far as like, I remember when this album with the little toy gun on the front was huge. I mean, it was the biggest alternative radio album of that, whatever, you know, two to three year period.
51:11Jason Stewart:There Goes My Hero, Everlong. Those are classics. There's no denying. Well, I liked when Foo Fighters were at their best was when their bass line still sounded like Sunny Day Real Estate and not some fucking like Jack White shit. The coolest thing I've ever done was have the guy from Sunday Real Estate in the band. Got a groover back there. And I also love Pat Smear, another legend that I'm happy to see. Pat Smear being in the germs and then being a millionaire from playing fucking guitar in the Foo Fighters is a great story. That's cool. Smear on the pod, man. I think Dave Grohl, I think he means well.
51:45I think he means well, and I think he's a talented guy. But the Foo Fighters, I don't know, man. I don't know what it is, but there's something about it that stinks. and it doesn't have that sort of the way that i know a lot of people who love third eye blind or counting crows or whatever bands from that era that were just as big for some reason foo fighters i don't know anyone that has good taste that ever talks about the foo fighters at all yeah and even
52:09Jason Stewart:even in like a funny way yeah if it's it's npc listener co-worker music i mean i'm biased obviously i'm mentioning i'm mentioning bands that i like you know what i mean that are from that era obviously I'm biased but I just something about Foo Fighters it just didn't have any even though it was so more it has so much more going for it in theory like all the things we just named he was in Nirvana Pat Smear Sonny Rissett whatever it just did not it had no ounce not one ounce of cool ever to bring it back to the the founder Kia Asylum it feels as if the CEO of this cool amazing company died somehow you know helicopter accident or gunshot or heroin overdose.
52:52Jason Stewart:And then this larger than life enigmatic personality. Now the CFO runs the company. No shade to your father and his accounting familia over there at his little shop down there in Decatur. But it feels like the numbers guy, the accounting guy in the band is suddenly the front man now. And everyone's like - No, that's a really good, honestly, it's a really good parallel. This is positively swag less. But I could listen. I mean, yeah, and they do have undeniable hits, but I just think that it's like something about it. I don't know, man. And he's beloved. He's beloved in the music business, and I think that's part of the reason the scandal of him, like it didn't really, it kind of came and went.
53:33You know what I mean? Like it was news for a couple days because obviously it's big news, but like no one really cares. You know, no one really cares.
53:39Jason Stewart:I think it got more, it was more traction when the Coldplay cheating scandal happened, you know, of two people that no one has ever heard of. Yeah, yeah. Maybe because there was video. Yeah, but the video of them romantically swaying to a Coldplay song isn't like, we're not in the Motel 6 by the airport. You know what I'm saying? It's not that incriminating. I would like to see what Dave's type was. I'd like to see who he was. I think she looks like his wife. Who's putting in the Uber at 4 a.m.? I think it's just like a blonde chick like his wife. That little freak. It's out there, but I'm not going to look at the Daily Mail right now, Jason.
54:15Jason Stewart:No, don't do that. I want to briefly mention Young Thug's clothing item that he was seen in his alligator shirt you talking about the gator shirt for 20? what's up with the gator shirt and why does it look like that? when you say for 20 was that 20 ,000? that's 20 bands that reminds me I was watching the music video for Grills Jermaine Dupri of course you act like I don't know Jermaine Dupri, Paul Wall Paul Wall, baby. Nelly. Paul Wall looks great, by the way. Gip and Ali as well. We've talked about Gip on the pod before. He'll come on eventually. Love Gip. Love Gip. He's so good. But I was watching the video for Grills, and then Gip had this great line about having jewelry, gold teeth, and diamonds in his mouth.
55:09Jason Stewart:And he said, there's a bill in my mouth like I'm Hillary Rodham. and i was like what a what a nice you know late 90s throwback rap that is what can i ask why you were watching the grills video so sometimes on weekends when i'm hung over i like to watch network television instead of like streaming programs i like there's like a weird comfort and solace i get in watching you know like a random tennis or golf or you know diners drive-ins and dives type shit and was scrolling through and mtv was playing like trl classic throwbacks so it was like michelle branch grills you know 50s you know all this cool shit and this jewel video came on that's bringing me back but yeah that came on and i remembered and forgot how good gip was i loved gip from the goody mom gips the best i you know that's funny smooth character Very smooth.
56:02In a way that I feel like doesn't happen anymore. It felt really natural. It felt really drug dealer.
56:07Jason Stewart:He was so good that huge rappers would be like, let's give him the third verse on this smash so he can get a nice little check right now. He's so awesome. We just want to make sure he always gets third verse on or whatever. I was thinking about Jewel the other day, Jason. That's so funny you brought her up. There's a song called Foolish Games. Sure. Pieces of You. Absolute classic. Smash. and I was thinking about it the other day and I was like, you know, I need to listen to that. I'm going to listen to that. I'm going to go get a haircut. I'm going to listen to that shit on the bike. I'm going to listen to Jewel.
56:37Me crying down Halston on the city bike. He was listening to Jewel in 1997.
56:43Jason Stewart:All-time best episode of Joe Rogan podcast was Jewel. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. She's a freaky chick. Young thug. I think he's really destroyed his career and legacy so quickly. He's turned into a – I don't know. I don't think he's ever going to write another good song again Oh no definitely not I mean I don't know What he could do at this point I mean people I never really got it It was never really my thing Obviously there's like classics but the way people talk About him I just never fully it never clicked With me that way but It is night and day from what It was five years ago He lost his Fastball or whatever He's no no gum hundo I'll tell you that.
57:27I'm not familiar with no gum.
57:28Jason Stewart:He's no ball out. Okay. You know what's been discovered in my household, even though I told her about it two months ago, is the new T.I. song that has white women over the age of 30 going absolutely fucking crazy. I don't know it. Because it sounds, it's good as hell. The new T.I. song is like good. Okay. It sounds like, it's like a, it's gone viral on the internet because like. Is it called Let Them Know? I think so, yeah. All 35-year-old white women like they used to go to the club. There's nowhere to hear music like that anymore. So they're doing like, it's like two nurse practitioners in scrubs doing the dance, like doing a dance to it on TikTok.
58:07Jason Stewart:Right, right, right, right. It's a hit. I mean, it's a smash. And he cut his hair. He's wearing the fitted again. But I also heard, I heard on Joe Budden that there's a new, there is a new young droverse on something. And it was sounding, it was also sounding pretty good. If we're going, if we want to go back to the glory days of Atlanta, which I always do. I'm a dro lover. I know you are. Okay. I'm glad to hear Grand Hustle Entertainment is still in this. Grand Hustle is still in this? Yeah, there's Grand Hustle. Grand Hustle, baby. And shout out to Afro Man, a true patriot. Dude, the Afro Man story, that's a real feel-good story.
58:40Even though it made a lot of people feel bad, overall, I think it's a real feel-good story. And I think that I didn't listen to – they were playing the songs on Joe Budden, like the songs he made, and I had not listened to the songs. And it really makes it different. If you're familiar with that story and you haven't heard the songs that he recorded about the officers, I highly recommend queuing those up and checking them out because it's much funnier than I thought it would be.
59:06Jason Stewart:I think it's a great example of a guy who's like, he loves his country. He's a patriot. He's good hearted and chill, has a good attitude. He uses the law correctly and he skirts around things and he does legal things to get his lick back through the court system and it worked. and I feel like that's so rare to see nowadays and I feel like as a country that still has free speech we should be doing more things like that getting creative with bringing down our it's so good corrupted police officers it's like making a song about a cop who looked like he wanted to eat your lemon pound cake that was sitting on the counter is so fucking funny and so specific and how that cut so deep I'll never know but it really did It ruined this guy's life.
59:58Jason, if I saw a lemon pound cake sitting on your fucking, cooling on your windowsill, I would be looking at it lustfully too. Who can resist?
1:00:07Jason Stewart:There's a little rosemary on there, maybe a little olive oil drizzle. Who could resist that, Jason? You're merely a man. And if you don't like Afro-Man or if you want to feel a different way about him, pull up the video of him punching a woman on stage. Whoa. Have you seen this? No. It was from like a couple years ago and he was playing a guitar solo on stage and a woman, like a drunk chick, jumps up and starts to like grind on him while he's doing the solo. And I guess there had been a guy who was like harassing him in the crowd, like some drunk guy earlier. And he had his back to her and he felt somebody come up on stage.
1:00:45Jason Stewart:Oh, he didn't know. Oh, shit. He turns around and cold cocks this 43-year-old woman who's just trying to rub her bussy up on him for a minute. Just turns around and just hits her perfectly right in the head. He had to do some anger management counseling and stuff. Oh, God, that sucks. God, that sucks. I saw a tweet saying after what happened to Dimebag, all bets are off. Oh, shit. I forgot about Dimebag. You were up on stage. Yeah, that's true. That is actually, I think you're kind of putting yourself in harm's way if you run up on stage. Akon's going to body slam you and you deserve it. And Akon's five feet.
1:01:22If he can body slam you, you deserve it. If he can pick you up, you're going to get it. You're going to get it. How was the DJ set last night? We didn't even talk, or whatever, on Friday night.
1:01:30Jason Stewart:Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Friday after hitting Bardi Bello and enjoying some, you know, had a nice, wanted to keep it light before the club, had a nice little branzino with some roasted potatoes. Went down real nice. But yeah, the club was very good. I played right before Zach Fox, and it was fucking lit as hell, man. Sweaty-ass, lit-ass club. It was very fun. Let me ask you a question, because you posted something on your Instagram story, and it looked like it was from a DJ booth. I mean, I've seen thousands of Them Jeans photos taken from the DJ booth in my life, but I have not seen what looked to be like a small but full-size bong in the DJ booth.
1:02:12It was a bong lit? but I just mean it was a, it wasn't like a, it had all its parts.
1:02:18Jason Stewart:You're saying a bubbler, this was not, this was, this was a full on bong. It was just kind of scaled down to maybe one third size or something like that. Yeah. And did you. Still fully operational, of course. Did you hit that in the booth? I did not hit that in the booth. The, uh, somebody, I guess who will go unnamed was, was enjoying that another DJ. And I was like, wow, I've never seen a bong in the club. and I love... No narking, but who brought the bong to the club? Another DJ? Yes. Okay, okay. Very cool. I mean, that was the thing where I was talking about maybe getting the Benz going from a friends and family dinner at a fancy schmancy restaurant, you know, a suit and tie type affair and then going straight into the sweaty sweat dripping down from the ceiling nightclub playing booty bass techno club and all that stuff and it was great to go from that kind of hoity-toity-ish and buttoned up environment and walk instantly into a building where they're like, not only can you bring a bong in this club, you can just smoke it inside.
1:03:24Jason Stewart:It's cool. And nobody cares. And that felt like a great kind of transformation of environment. It's really cool. I love that you can straddle those worlds, Jason. I mean, who but you? It's been so long. I've been in a club DJing in America where it was like, oh yeah you want to have a sig right now pull out a sig and light it and security guard won't even consider even a thing was this at los globos or is it somewhere else not to narc but yeah well i mean i think everybody goes to los globos for a reason it's like a it's a sweat drip down the walls type place i don't want me i don't want karen bass listening to this and going down busting down the doors don't worry smoking indoors karen had ever been to silver lake um i i will Before we go, there was an airmail story about horses.
1:04:09Oh, didn't think you would bring this up. Well, because I'm not happy about it. I'm saying there has to be a worldwide ban on horses talk from now on. There's no more juice left to squeeze out of that dead orange.
1:04:25Jason Stewart:I think the juice is still being squeezed as they're figuring out legal court proceedings. But who cares? Who cares? The restaurant is closed. It doesn't matter. He didn't kill any cats. Who cares? Look, there's a documentary on Hulu about stuff like this every single week. It doesn't matter what it's about. It's just if it's juicy. And this has enough juice. But this isn't juicy. It's a closed restaurant that was open for two years. Like, it's not like it's some, there's no fall from grace. No one knew who this guy was. You're focusing on the restaurant when the juice is their interpersonal drama.
1:05:01Jason Stewart:it's the he said the she said the abuse the cats the this the text put it on TV if this was a reality show I would care but because you're two fucking clog wearing cooks I can't the visual ain't good the visual ain't good enough for me you can't sell me without a visual and there ain't no visual well Chris put your money where your mouth is let's start up a little shop and we will fund the horses documentary our little shops we're raising right now for just we have a few features in the works some in the reality space we've got Tiff in our crosshairs I'm sorry unscripted it's in the unscripted space it's in the unscripted have you ever seen Neighbors on A20 it's kind of like that it's unscripted yeah we're just kind of we're super nimble with it right now so just kind of taking meetings that's another one taking meetings fuck you don't take a meeting you have a meeting that's another I can't you don't wait on a line you wait in a line you don't wait on a line well in a line that's some new york shit that's it that's only new york and that one that one does get my goat i hate online means i'm i'm using a instant messenger i'm on netscape aol i'm in my geo cities what do you do i hang out online mostly what do you mean at apollo bagels no on a computer you fucking idiot no no not for the caramel protein foam latte uh for my chat room oh yeah if you want to go on the scaffolding above the line then you would be on the line then you'd be on it but if you're in the line then you're in the line hello god damn it how long gone we didn't even get to the ald turntable god damn it well i'm trying to get you one don't worry uh howlonggone.com is the website thank you to our techniques family uh we have a couple guests next week some good ones one of a fan favorite and all-time favorite returning one of our favorites oh yeah who has who one of the rare uh personality to back up the music which is one of you know obviously my favorite duo when when personality is as good if not better than the creative real uh output hold on to those people that's that's when how long gone gets excited um thank you guys for listening Oh, also, our Magna Blue Ice flavor is available now.
1:07:18Jason Stewart:Go check out Magna, M-A-G-N-A, wherever you get your pow-pows and get the blue ice flavor. No need to tell them how long gone since you. Just enjoy it, drink it, put it in your dop kit. We don't get a royalty, so don't tell them shit. You buy whatever flavor you want. We're just trying to raise brand awareness, really. Come for the blue and stay for the apple. That's what I said. Thank you guys for listening. And we'll talk to you next week. Bye-bye.
From the publisher
One-on-one pod today, Chris is in New York, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about the Founder Asylum, potpourri, the apartment in Love Story, plaster fetish, SNL UK, the Cou Cou Intimates pop-up, Chappell Roan's desire to physically harm small children, Dave Grohl’s therapy journey, Nelly’s “Grillz,” Afroman’s courtroom flavor, and the Air Mail Horses story.
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