930. - Chris & Jason

13 Apr 2026 · 1 h · 29 chapters

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In short

NYC weather/style talk leads into pop-culture commentary: Coachella celebrity behavior (especially Justin Bieber’s set), Euphoria/Sydney Sweeney controversy, Ethel Cain’s “Trans Visibility Day” explicit Instagram carousel, and music-show production choices (The XX vs Bieber). They also riff on fashion micro-trends (cropped Oxford shirts, double-breasted jackets when sitting) and minor life logistics (parking, bars, subscriptions).

Guests

Chris and Jason (co-hosts). No other guests are interviewed in this transcript.

Guest backgrounds

Not explicitly stated; they speak as New York–based culture/fashion/music commentators with industry-adjacent opinions and personal anecdotes (gyms, bars, events, celebrity sightings).

Key claims

  • Bieber’s “watching videos on a laptop” approach is framed as fitting his generation/attention span and still “normal style” with enough production.
  • Euphoria’s Sam Levinson and Sweeney’s public imagery are discussed as polarizing and content-driven.
  • Ethel Cain’s explicit trans imagery is portrayed as “artistic” and less pornographic, and Meta allegedly allowed it.

Notable examples

  • Coachella in Indio; Bieber, Tom York/Bob Dylan comparisons, and “Bieber factor.”
  • Purely Sedona water on stage; “doobie case” iPhone accessory.
  • Ethel Cain Instagram carousel showing penis/testicles; photographer credited as Dolly Kjar(n) (as mentioned).

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Chapters

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Weather and Fashion Observations

0:45 to 2:26

Chris and Jason discuss the current New York weather and how it influences fashion choices.

“Chinatown feels like an injectable, but it does sound good.”

New York City Style

2:26 to 3:38

They explore the eccentricities of NYC fashion, including extreme contrasts in attire.

“I felt all the eyes were on me like, ugh, this fucking idiot, you know?”

Coachella Festival Discussion

3:38 to 4:34

The hosts discuss the Coachella music festival and its celebrity culture.

Celebrities and Music Taste

4:34 to 6:20

Chris and Jason debate the authenticity of celebrities and their connection to live music.

“foolish to come all the way out here and not throw a line in the water right i mean i would be if we're He's going to be sitting around all day.”

Justin Bieber's Performance

6:20 to 8:08

They analyze Justin Bieber's recent performance style and its reception.

“dated what's her name that that is that is not an ontario seven let's not sleep on what's her name you're right she's she's bad but she's sort of she's as close to a civilian as you can get for Jacob Elordi.”

Spring Fashion and Quince

14:02 to 15:07

The hosts discuss the transition to spring fashion and their favorite clothing brand.

“This time of year always makes me rethink what's in my damn closet.”

Discussing Euphoria and Celebrity Culture

16:16 to 18:57

The hosts analyze the show Euphoria and its impact on celebrity culture.

“Go to CarGurus.com to make sure your big deal is the best deal.”

Tattoo Conversations and Public Perception

18:57 to 22:08

A deep dive into tattoos and their implications for public figures like Ariana Grande.

“One of Ariana Grande's biggest mistakes is tatting up her whole hand.”

Rich Kids and Coachella Experiences

22:08 to 24:28

The hosts share stories about the extravagant lifestyles of rich kids at Coachella.

“Then he was on all those VH1 shows for years and years, too.”

Justin Bieber's Coachella Performance

24:28 to 28:00

Analysis of Justin Bieber's performance and its reception amidst changing audience expectations.

“People are flying in from all over the world to see him.”
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Justin Bieber's Creative Direction

28:00 to 29:04

Discussion on how Justin Bieber's Twitch streaming influences his performances.

“I just don't want that from Justin Bieber because he has sold us that he is cooler than that.”

The XX and Band Dynamics

29:04 to 29:55

Conversation about the dynamics within the band The XX and their unique representation.

“He might not have wanted to get into, you know, fighting shape.”

Ethel Kane's Visibility and Art

29:55 to 31:16

Analyzing Ethel Kane's artistic expression regarding trans visibility on social media.

“And also, has there ever been a band with a lesbian, a gay guy, and a straight guy?”

Instagram and Trans Representation

31:16 to 33:15

Discussion on Instagram's role in trans representation and visibility in media.

“Let's talk about Ethel Kane's visibility showing shaft and ball on grid.”

Artistic vs. Pornographic Imagery

33:15 to 35:38

Exploration of how artistic representation differs from explicit content on social media.

“And I do think that that sort of thing is important to do that and test them a little bit.”

Upcoming Events and Personal Plans

35:38 to 36:25

The hosts discuss their upcoming events and social gatherings in Los Angeles.

“But I guess what I'm saying is - It's not like Slater doing it, is what you're saying.”

Drinks and Dining Experiences

36:25 to 38:40

Casual exchange about their recent dining experiences and drinks at a restaurant.

“We have two open seats so we can talk offline about who to kind of give the VIP package.”

Fashion Trends in Male Attire

38:40 to 42:00

A humorous take on the trends of cropped shirts and men's fashion choices.

“It's a place that's in Silver Lake nearby, but maybe it's low clock.”

Fashion Faux Pas: The Cropped Shirt Debate

42:00 to 43:29

The hosts discuss the absurdity of men's cropped shirts and the complexities of modern menswear.

“Not for, obviously, women we're not talking about.”

The Asymmetrical Tuck and Its Implications

43:30 to 45:08

A deep dive into the asymmetrical tucking of shirts and its variations, including the French tuck.

Double-Breasted Suit Dilemmas

45:09 to 46:25

The hosts debate the proper etiquette of wearing double-breasted suits while sitting.

Dark Humor and Body Positivity

46:26 to 48:29

An exploration of dark humor related to body image and societal expectations.

“She absolutely looks great in this picture, and it's fine.”

Planning the Week: Behind the Scenes

48:30 to 49:42

The hosts casually plan their upcoming week and discuss their pop-up events.

“Yeah, while you're here, we should try to hit Wilds as well.”

Conspiracy Theories and Fruit Carts

49:43 to 51:35

A humorous take on conspiracy theories surrounding fruit carts and their hidden purposes.

“People are doing that for the Armenian syrup trade of 2017 to 2019 or something.”

The Changing Nature of Drug Transactions

51:36 to 53:06

Discussion on how drug transactions have evolved and the loss of danger in modern dealings.

“you guys do meth, you guys do activists.”

The Allure of Fly Fishing

53:07 to 54:17

The hosts share their anticipation for a fly fishing trip, exploring its appeal and experiences.

“I was going to do a live unboxing of the Lena Dunham book, but I unboxed it last night.”

Traveling to the Aubertus Resort

56:00 to 57:28

Learn about the remote location and travel logistics for the Aubertus resort.

“Well, the resort, the Aubertus, is like an hour and 20 or something from the airport in Greensboro.”

Coachella Discussions and DJ Yosuke Yukimatsu

57:28 to 58:42

Explore insights on Coachella and the performance of DJ Yosuke Yukimatsu.

The Evolution of DJ Sets

58:42 to 59:33

Discover the evolution of DJ performances and genre blending in modern music.

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Transcript

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0:17How long gone? It sounds good. Beautiful Sunday here in New York, Jason. The sun is shining and the wind isn't blowing, which has been an issue for me personally lately. so I just wanted to report that. Is it wreaking havoc on your hair? What's going on? It's just man, you know what? You look outside. It looks good. You know what I mean? You're checking what people in the street are wearing because you're like, oh I can't still, because the temperature says one thing and then the real feel is different. You know what I'm saying? When the wind is whipping.

0:44Jason Stewart:The real feel. So when you say you're checking what other people are wearing, is that you with the binoculars outside of your window from Chibeca or recently a friend of the show, Hannah Cousins, may have called it Trina, which is like trying hard and Chinatown. Trinatown? Trinatown is pretty good. It does sound like... Chinatown feels like an injectable, but it does sound good. It's swimming in the seas of Sky Rizzy. Sorry, I was getting ahead of myself. Are you looking with the binoculars down onto the street or are you pulling up Jake Wolf's Instagram? I wish I was up tall enough to need binoculars, but from the fourth floor, you can kind of get eyes on it pretty easily okay so you pull your phone out and do 5x zoom yeah yeah just a 5x zoom just you know is there a hat is there a glove is there a puffer is there something lighter you know just just a general sense of what's going on and then when you get outside you realize that everyone is insane and you can see someone with the full canada goose arctic parka on next to a guy shirtless doing pull-ups and none of it really makes sense until you get out there yourself isn't that just nyc style chris crazy it's crazy here bro but you're also you know you're a shorts wearer you don't mind it you're okay with that i'm not really i mean i'm not tom foolery i don't like wearing pants over shorts to the gym no matter how cold it is but but unfortunately if you do that when snow is on the ground you do get the damn that's a crazy white boy looks and you don't want that you don't want to look like a serial killer just because you don't want to take your shoes off twice i agree i would always do that at the the standard hotel east village it's across the street from the gym that they let you use.

2:22Jason Stewart:And I felt like I was doing the fucking thought walk, you know, coming home from space at 9 a.m. type shit. It's a judgmental. I felt all the eyes were on me like, ugh, this fucking idiot, you know? This tall, hot idiot. It goes into white boys don't wash their legs territory. It's a very, it's a similar. It's in a similar, it's a similar zone. Yeah, that's the real Amazon crime, isn't it? We're not beating the charges on either one of these things, I don't think, but I - I wash my legs, bro. No, I do too, but I mean in a general sense. we're never going to win because it's a thing the leg washing is something that can never be proven and that's why it's such a beautiful argument unless you subscribe to my only found exactly with jason washing his legs it's 5.99 a month just dm me for extras though i do i do original content as well ankle to knee that's kind of my sweet spot okay oh ankle to knee baby that's what you're paying for uh yeah i we should talk about um the coachella valley music and arts festival that took place is that the one in indio that's the that's the one in indio not to be confused with the beautiful country of india um i wonder how many people got that confused like the first coachella like damn this one's far i don't know if i'm gonna go to bangladesh to see chemical 24 hours of travel for beck headlining i don't know if i can do it i don't know if i could do it i don't know if i could do all that man that sounds good but okay yeah in india you know i'm shocked every year at the celebrity turnout i know it's sort of a rite of passage and also like a clubhouse but like i just don't know if i want to i mean i guess the whole goal is to feel normal but if i'm jacob alorty like i don't know if i can i don't know if i want to do that personally do you like live music that much i do i do but none of those jacob i mean he's too busy you know reading ee cummings or whatever out of his bottega purse but i don't think of him as a music lover actually i i think of him as a reader and a guy who wears pally i don't think of him as a guy who who listens to music right right right he's you know he doesn't have a whole lot of death grips on his nano touch he does not have death grips on his nano touch but i i do think jacob aloree could be you know he could be out there trying to see what's really gucci on some other stuff if you know what i'm saying i'm not i'm not talking about ketamine i'm talking about ladies it'd be it'd be foolish to come all the way out here and not throw a line in the water right i mean i would be if we're He's going to be sitting around all day.

4:44And Elordi knows as an Australian, you don't bring sand to the beach. No Bondi. He knows that. Nar, nar, nar. He knows that better than anybody. But I wonder what the celebrity hookup ratio is, or if it's all just now people that are friends with Haley Bieber and they know each other from church, and Elordi's got to go civilian mode if he wants to stick it in anything. You know what I mean?

5:05Jason Stewart:Elordi's got to go to the Yahoo activation somewhere off campus, pull some Ontario 7s. she worked at the toilet paper factory he's like whoa they have an airport now that's so cool anyway what's up no i'm sure i'm sure somebody at the nylon house is helping him you know surround himself with with hottie because i mean you know i just saw it because because timothy was there i think it's honestly i think it's the bieber factor i think all these kids that you're naming yeah they grew up basic you know bieber was there fucking tom york and bob dylan rolled into one you He is the architect, the blueprint.

5:40Jason Stewart:So they don't even want to go. But it's just like, fuck. Stones are playing the sphere. We got to go. I do get that. I mean, I'm sure it's fun. If you're fucking Jacob Elordi doing anything like that, it's fun. Don't get me wrong. If you have the right amount of medication and alcohol in your bloodstream to be able to handle walking around Coachella as Jacob Elordi just on a cortisol level, you know maybe his he's got some beta blockers that we don't have access to i think he has lost or he's just able to relax because he reads so much he's got a lot of stuff we don't have access to uh i don't a lot of stuff we ain't got access to i don't want to get into the details he said ontario sevens that's cute mate yeah i mean i'm fucking aliens bro to be fair he does i mean he dated what's her name that that is that is not an ontario seven let's not sleep on what's her name you're right she's she's bad but she's sort of she's as close to a civilian as you can get for Jacob Elordi.

6:35Are you talking about Aunt Becky's daughter? I'm talking about Aunt Becky's little thought daughter who lied to get into UCLA. Said she was a rower.

6:44Jason Stewart:Or USC. Whatever. One or the other. I know one's better than the other, but I don't know. Look, the traps on the shoulders are big. They're not rower big. Okay, bitch? Hold on. Turn around. No, hell no. This bitch ain't rode a day in her life. Rode R-H-O-D-E maybe, but not R-H-O-D-E. How do you feel when you're I guess Olivia, she's a semi-civilian, I should say, but it's on her Mount Rushmore. It's just, it's her Zendaya and Kaya Gerber. It's tough, tough, stiff competition. Yes, it is. But in other ways, I mean, if I were her, that would give me the biggest ego boost, you know, legally, legally possible.

7:18At the top, it's just us type shit. At the top, it's just us. It's why guys that are, like a Leonardo DiCaprio, legendary, dirty dog, stick man, women want to join that, the hallowed halls. They want to get their jersey. They want to get in that section. They want their jersey. Let me sit in his section. They want the Jersey and the Raptors. They want him pouring them a fucking Casamigos and pineapple.

7:37Jason Stewart:To borrow a real estate term, you always want to be the shittiest house on the nicest street, right? Exactly. It's better than the smallest room at the nicest hotel. There's worse places to be. There's worse places to be. You still get to use the facilities, if you know what I'm saying. I loved Justin Bieber. I thought it was awesome. I thought the whole thing was cool. I thought it was like Every live performance like this now Does feel a little yay coded In some ways Like stage wise But the YouTube shit Even from Nine Inch Nails to Justin Bieber They were all sort of in his plate I thought the whole thing was cool I thought it was a great way to play all those songs That you know his ass doesn't want to play I thought it was funny For those of us who didn't watch it Give me just a little I know that he was performing some mostly his newer music and then he revisited kind of the older classic catalog via watching youtube videos on his computer yeah no i mean it's not yeah he's just like watching he's basically watching youtube videos and like in parts like harmonizing with himself and shit and he played the you know all he played some viral shit he played but he played all the songs and it was just kind of a fun way to do it i thought it was like it was literally the the twitter joke of like gay guys sitting around you know gay guy friday sitting around the guy's music video yeah it's that it was that literally except he was probably more high and he was apparently he was wearing ludan and loeve boots and i don't want to i don't want to this is going to be great for the the water community all the water sommelier is listening he was sipping on a purely sedona which is something that is you know it's it's not it's for the heads a little bit it was it was a it's a little bit it's a little bit of a deep dive no no geyser no geyser yeah water water watchers take note purely Sedona um you know obviously sourced from a beautifully protected Arizona spring um if you want to get those balanced pH levels and electrolytes but have them be naturally occurring take a second look at purely so take a second look but they make a sparkling as well but I was just impressed to see that as a choice I wonder if he chose it himself or if that was maybe from some help.

9:49Jason Stewart:Or was this a brand deal? Purely Sedona doesn't feel they have that kind of bread. I know, but if it's for a certain level, what if a shareholder over there knows someone over at that team? I got some really great water for Justin and Drink out on stage. Yeah. Free of charge. Imagine. His performance is so good, it almost makes me want to wear Skylark slides. You know what I mean? It's getting to that point. Yeah. I mean, I tried to order his iPhone case that has the built-in spliff holder, but obviously out of stock. That does feel pretty cool. Especially after that performance. I really like that flip on the case.

10:24You like the doobie case? Would you actually use that?

10:27Jason Stewart:I mean, as a joke. This is coming from a guy who has a purple iPhone. I believe that you asked for the purple AirPod Pro Max 2, correct? I have. It's more of a lilac, but yeah. And my phone is rose gold currently, but I have had a purple phone. It's crazy that Apple got all of you bozos who can't get enough to buy an orange phone because you didn't want to wait a week to get a regular phone. Any colored device, even when I'm doing my rich guy tech refresh, a colored device just seems crazy to me. I mean, you know, not all who are wandering are lost, Chris. You know what I mean? some people you take the red pill you take the blue pill you're not ready for color and that's fine i mean i i you're right i'm not we don't look down on you as a close-minded color hater okay we gotta be careful uh the um i would say i would say watch some clips yeah got it i would say watch some clips i think it was i think it's very polarizing because people are like people are the internet is unbelievable people are saying that because he doesn't own his catalog he couldn't perform those songs in a different way i'm like you know that ain't how that works right i don't know if they know how that's how that works but i mean these kind of things will take hold on the on the world wide web and it's always shocking to me because that seems easy to debunk that seems very very easy to yeah i agree with that but you know you can never put anything past scooter brawn that evil scooter brawn he might have a little weird little clause in his contract where if he wants to perform those songs live he has to pay a hefty royalty for skeeter brawn's getting his dick sucked by Sydney Sweeney on a jet ski in Tampa.

12:05He ain't worried about it. He's got his bread. He's good to go.

12:07Jason Stewart:I think it's been a minute since she slobbed on the knob. Really? I mean, how long can you really be into Scooter's whole shtick before you start getting the ick? I think someone like her for the rest of their lives. I think they're going to commit. I think I predict now that Scooter and Sydney get married. Three weeks with Scooter, it's a no-lick zone for me. No-lick. I think that she – did you see the – people are really upset about these euphoria pictures. I guess they've made her an OnlyFans creator. And it's getting, she's like wearing, she has like a, she looks like she's dressed like a cow and has a pacifier in.

12:38Jason Stewart:She's doing toddler play. Sure. Golly. That is, that is, that is just too. Yeah, I'm sure a lot of guys I know are probably up in arms about these images being shared. How bad is, how bad is Euphoria? Because it looks really bad. How Long Gone is brought to you by Rocket Money. Our old buddies over at Rocket Money. Jason, I want my wallet to be on Swole, not on GLP-1s. I need a Thiciana. I need a Thiciana. The prices are going up everywhere, Jason. All these streaming services that I pay for to entertain myself, even though I hate what they're doing, they just keep costing me more money. The prices go up every month.

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16:42Jason Stewart:And, you know, it's for that 14-year-old daughter in your life that is cutting herself a little bit. Or the one who, you know. See, I wish. Very plain Jane. But you get to see a window into the dark world that doesn't exist. I wish that's who it was for. But, unfortunately, I think it is kind of for us and our peers. That's the sad reality. Well, whenever I say anything like that, we also imply to be included the adults with that same brain inside of their adult body. I just feel like, because I feel like the guy who's creating it that gets all the bad press. Sam Levinson. Sam Levinson's definitely our age.

17:17A hundred percent, like late 30s, early 40s. And he said, Sweeney in the diaper now. I just, I do, I don't know how he keeps getting away with it, I guess. And it's crazy that all these people have stayed on the show. Like, that's what I don't understand. when these people get to be this famous I mean I'm sure it's contractual or whatever but I would just be like I ain't doing that bro

17:37Jason Stewart:I agree I mean everyone was like oh yeah and I'm sure Zendaya is going to come back with Jacob Elordi for the next season after and then he got him but I think because we're the same reason why these celebs are going to Coachella or not the only reason but a big consideration is that this is a moment for content in an ever evolving world where my team says I need to be posting a new you know strolling through the airport pick with my la mer bag or whatever it's just more content more content so this is just another like it's true even if it even if they're making scale and i get paid i get paid i mean i mean they're making they're making some money they're i mean zendaya is making 20 million of pictures so she's not getting that much from euphoria but she gets photos of her looking crazy video footage of her wearing outfits that she normally doesn't wear it's just like you dip into this is there something is there something i don't get about her because she seems insanely boring to me and i don't is she really talented is she so good as an actress personally um it's not really for me i would say i don't think she's bad but it's just kind of like uh one of those like very very talented musicians that's got no swag you know what i mean just yeah yeah sure that that's i just have a doctorate in the cello but sure you know i just find her and tom holland to be sort of like how did we get here just because there's nothing happening except the matching under titty tattoos and a non-alcoholic beer i mean i think zendaya is beautiful i think they're both um they're both just like disney kids like child actor entertainer i'm a tap dancer and singer and i can juggle and and it's the same reason why ariana grande and that spawn of caratop are are dating they just speak the same lingo hey look at least i'll say this zendaya has a timeless beauty about her and one thing i really appreciate is she doesn't have any hand tattoos.

19:28One of Ariana Grande's biggest mistakes is tatting up her whole hand. Ariana Grande's hand looks like a guy that just got out of jail's face. Like, it's crazy. Because you know, Jason, famously, hands age poorly. They do. Hands age poorly. They're always exposed to elements. Think about it. Especially if you're a witch. So if you got six-inch fake nails on and you got 14 tattoos on each hand. You listening, Marc Jacobs? Oh, it's disgusting. It's gross. her hands are crazy the only person that can get away that many hand tattoos is Rihanna that's because she's playing on a different level yeah everyone

20:03Jason Stewart:allows it nobody likes it though no nobody likes it but I just every time I see Arne Grande's hands I'm like you are too rich and too sick somebody should have made you not do this or get these removed somebody you know but I admire you know on two sides of the coin I admire saying like hey I am I do have these fucked up hand tattoos and what are you not going to put me in the Valentino campaign in the airport? Yeah, that's what I thought. Oh, yeah, of course. I mean, she got the numbers. We'll airbrush them out or whatever. But then it's the same thing of like, you see the basketball player, two guys who are of the same level of stats.

20:37Jason Stewart:One of them has all the brand deals and one of them doesn't. And a lot of times the main difference is you don't have 80 ,000 emoji tattoos on your neck. You know what I mean? I need to actually examine her tattoos and see what they are. Because you know one of them is definitely a rosary. 18 rosary tattoos, bro. You know she's definitely got a reason. But I want to – the Sydney Sweeney diaper talk reminds me of when I would listen to Loveline. What does it remind you of? What does it remind you of, Jason? Please, tell us more. Yes, I would listen to Loveline, and Dr. Drew would be able to prescribe exactly what trauma people had based on, like, the sound of their voice.

21:15Jason Stewart:Like, she'll just be saying some crazy story, and I'll be like, were you sexually abused at three? And she's like – Yeah, he would. So I want to know if he's able to use that pinpoint precision to detect this type of person who has over 70 small tattoos on their hands specifically. What is the psychological etymology of that? I think with Ariana, it's very easy because you're right. It's just child star is the damage, and that kind of can cover everything. What happened to Dr. Drew? Was he just like a COVID truther, like Trump guy, and people got him out of here? Or did he do something much worse?

21:52Jason Stewart:Yeah, he went super like right-wing MAGA. Okay, that's why. He started talking a lot about the Mexicans and stuff like that. Do you remember? It's crazy how big a part of our lives Dr. Drew was. Dr. Drew was on TV. I think that show was on every night. Yeah, it was like Howard Stern. It's crazy. Then he was on TV, though. Then he was on all those VH1 shows for years and years, too. He's still, or I guess I would say he was still on, but now he's on weird podcasts and stuff. I mean, I'm sure he's got his own imprint on Tucker's network, but it's not really hitting the same as linear TV in 1997.

22:27Jason Stewart:Dead Oceans. Yeah, I was... We got an imprint over here. We were talking to some friends yesterday about something that will go unnamed, but it was just a very 2026 Coachella, rich kid Bieber moment. We're really at the pinnacle of the high and low of existing in America and the world. Apparently, some rich people, maybe kids of somebody, in Coachella, hanging out at Coachella, get on a helicopter, fly to LA to have dinner at Noma, go back on the helicopter, back to Coachella in time to catch Bieber's set. that's got to be one of the best nights of your life if you're the daughter of a rich person right well i think that i think the problem is if you're doing that every night is the best night of your life so it's tough to sort of but yes in theory that is the best night of your life especially if you like bugs but there's i mean you do a lot of things like that but it seems like the stars and the planets are aligning to what you know not unlike our artemis 2 planning that perfectly this person triangulated a noma pop-up in los angeles and justin bieber pop-up my coachella all in the same night my version of this is hitting like four unnecessary media or fashion events in one night in new york and still making it to dinner by 8 p.m but there's not the upside is much less the upside is much like okay being able to leave every party after 25 minutes is is is one of the greatest skills but it's not the same as hitting the chopper to make it in time for yukon yeah one one of them yeah one of them would you where would you like would you like a glass of champagne or a shot of class a azul and then your version is like what am i going to do with this caper tote bag another fucking tote bag i guess i'll take it to dinner i guess i'll bring it to dinner with me i got i'll follow the candles in the shape of bread okay yeah i'll take it

24:23oh a shoe shine kit this is actually useful thank you this has been in my cart for a minute oh my god but i yeah i thought the beaver thing was good i think it's nice that it's polarizing what

24:33Jason Stewart:What do you think about, speaking of polarizing, what do you think about the people who are saying, you know, this is a little, not like the Frank Ocean style where people were upset about that performance, but just, you know, he's the highest paid artist at Coachella. People are flying in from all over the world to see him. It's this big, huge deal. And he spends half the time watching videos on his laptop. Is that taking a lazy way out? Or is that exactly what these zero attention span people want in a live show? I just think he will. It's not like he was watching. I mean, to be fair, you're watching the videos with him.

25:07Sure. Not to make it like, you know, it's not like he was in like a fucking privacy booth. I think that that is low IQ.

25:14Jason Stewart:But it's like when I'm watching Cat Williams stand up and now he starts playing videos and songs and shit. And I'm like, bro, you're the king of stand up comedy. What are you doing? I think this is no. I think this is for Justin Bieber and his audience and the time we live in. I think this is pretty perfect to be aged. I just I think that like overthinking it and being like he's the highest paid like you get Sabrina Carpenter spent a fortune and it looked like she was at fucking Disney World doing the 50s drive-thru sock hop like I would rather see Justin Bieber watch videos himself at 14 and harmonize with him than see somebody spend all that money on just stuff I don't know I don't know it's not like it felt more human it felt more interesting and like and cool yeah I got I I mean, because the live show, like everyone demands this over the top theatricality and we have to employ body positive dancers.

26:04Jason Stewart:And there has to be a stolen land artist doing the video thingy and like set builders. And, you know, this we're keeping the creative artistic arts alive with human beings doing it versus we have a giant screen. And this kid in Korea is going to make a bunch of sick visuals and then they can just kind of run around. and it'll cost$18 ,000. As a person who likes bands and when they play, just kind of normal style, I feel like this was sort of Justin Bieber. This is as close as you're going to get. This was normal style. To Justin Bieber doing this. It was normal style, especially for a certain generation.

26:40The Strokes are actually normal style because they're just standing up there with their instruments and there's some fog and wind. I'm sure they had a few things on stage, but overall.

26:50Jason Stewart:They had a pretty good visual program going on, But what I like about The Strokes is you could tell that they didn't even look at the visuals. It's like Oasis. They had never seen that until they walked out. Like, oh, what's on the screen? Is that the queen? Yeah, on the dollar. Okay. Like, I think that the, I think the, yeah, I mean, the Strokes, but I'm saying like, there's a level of like The Strokes having, like, I think just Bieber doing it this way still gave it a big level of production without it, without it feeling like pop star girly over the top. Are you saying he was on Bo Burnham's Nachos?

27:22I don't know, bro. I've never had a bite of both nachos. So I don't fucking know what they taste like. But I bet they're bad. They taste mild. Those are white boy nachos. There ain't no jalapenos on those. Extra sour cream. But a little bit of visual in the strokes is fine. I just mean they don't come in in a lowered six-fo and get out with, you know, Marshall stacks that move. Don't send a shot at West Coast rap, bro. Come on. I'm not. That's not a West Coast rap. I believe Sabrina Carpenter drove off from her set in a vintage car. This is not a joke. And Sabrina Carpenter's got slabs, and that's the show Sabrina Carpenter should be doing.

28:02That is exactly the point. I just don't want that from Justin Bieber because he has sold us that he is cooler than that. If nothing else, by working with McGee and Dijon or whatever. You know what I mean?

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28:12Jason Stewart:Do you think his Twitch live streaming played any part in the creative direction of his show? Oh, yeah, 100%. I mean, I'm sure there was some high-paid white guy in giant pants and slides that we sort of know that got paid to come up with this. But I'm sure— A Culver City creative? Yeah, there's definitely somebody— Proud that of two? There's definitely somebody we know who's vaguely religious wearing sweatpants that come down to right below his calf right now. But I think that he probably had a little bit of say because it does feel very Twitch-adjacent. Okay, last question. And do you think the reason why Justin's show was like that is because his personal attention span is so fried that he can't even just perform for two hours on stage without getting a little laptop screen?

29:04Jason Stewart:Maybe he may also not at that time. He might not have wanted to get into, you know, fighting shape. Like he's not trying to put down the bubbler and learn two and a half hours of Usher level Chris Brown choreo. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think that's what and that's fine. I think that's the reason. I think part of the reason. Can I have the bubbler, please? The reason he started playing guitar is because he's like, wait, I don't have to dance. I got this shit on. This rocks. You guys got this figured out. Dijon walks around with a headset mic just pushing buttons. And this shit sounds good.

29:32I got to figure out a way to do this.

29:34Jason Stewart:He's young, but he's also not new to this. He is a retired musician at this point because he started when he was this many. For our listeners at home, I'm holding up four fingers. Literally. Literally. Yeah. I mean, I was. But overall, it looks pretty. I mean, I didn't really watch it. I mean, the XX is just so good. It's so, I love that they're back. I think it's cool. And they could stop with their little solo projects. They look so happy. And also, has there ever been a band with a lesbian, a gay guy, and a straight guy? Think about that. In the history of time, has that ever happened? Maybe it's, at the top, it's the XX and the B-52s.

30:08Jason Stewart:That's the only band that was really coming to mind to have all that. Yeah, true, yeah. That's like the, that's an indie band EGOT right there, right? All you need is a geese trans, and that's the T in EGOT. I'm trying to think of anybody else. I mean, maybe Fleetwood Mac at one point, somebody was a lesbian. Oh, yeah. That doesn't count. That doesn't count. It was the 70s, man. We were all lesbians. I just watched the videos, the XX, and everybody's so happy. They look happy. The crowd looks fucking happy. It's reassuring how good it sounds and how it's aged so well. When you're looking at a bunch of people who like the music that you're playing versus who are there just to support you and they like your other band, you know, it's nice.

30:49Jason Stewart:Yeah, for sure. It's like the face that Julian sees at a Void show versus a Stroke show, not to bring that up again. Well, he can see all the faces at a Void show because it's at Mercury Lounge, so it's a little, it's a tighter, it's a tighter, you can get right up in the nostrils over at Mercury Lounge. See all 230 of those motherfuckers, huh? Okay, speaking of all things that you can see and trans visibility. Let's talk about Ethel Kane's visibility showing shaft and ball on grid. How did we forget? We didn't talk about this when that happened. I know. I'm not super clear on what was the... Was it just a post or was there some sort of statement?

31:31Jason Stewart:It's on her Instagram grid right now. It has a little blurry thing where you can click see more. And it's just a small carousel of images. many of them showing penis and testicle. Was it taken by someone? Is there credit to a photographer of note? Or is this just sort of like, I felt like flexing? I think it's a flex thing, yeah. Okay, this isn't hand printed by David Sims. It's not an excerpt from the System Magazine shoot. Okay, okay. These are exclusive outtakes from the final issue of The Face. Let me pull up the Mother Cane files. Just hold, please. Oh, no, it says she tagged expired. idealist which is a photographer named dolly kjarn okay i'm not familiar from somewhere in the appalachia well that is where this person's from i always forget ethel kane's sort of uh formative story is is very like southern white trash white trash like florida so i appreciate when she gets back in that i mean bro i don't give a fuck ethel kane put a hog out who cares i'm all for it i'm all for it but also what i what i like i was i was at dinner we're um carolyn and we went to bar di bello with um our friends of the show john and jack john who does east side rag and we were we were talking they hadn't seen it and i was showing them and they were like wait how i will i will how come like i can't look at dicks on my instagram but this person and i said imagine like you're you're ethel kane and you're like i'm gonna post my trans body on on trans visibility day and i wish a motherfucker would report me yeah and everyone was like you're good You're good.

33:09Yeah, Instagram, the rare time where the Meta Corporation was like, you know what, fuck it. You win. We don't want the smoke on this one. And I do think that that sort of thing is important to do that and test them a little bit. Because I think that a lot of people say, you know, I think a lot of people want to support causes until it causes them a problem. You know what I mean? Or it sort of like becomes a road bump for them. And over the Meta Corporation.

33:36Jason Stewart:We want to clean up the streets until it's time to pick up a bucket and a mop. Am I right? That's what I'm saying. But if Ethel Kane's like, hey, it's Trans Visibility Day, I'm going to show you what visibility really means. It's cool that someone at the Metacorp Brace is like, you know what? This bitch called our bluff. Like, fuck it. It's Trans Visibility Day. We probably posted about it on our corporate account. There's probably like a corporate email that went out to all of our employees. Like, we got to let the hog rock. But then do you think the rest of the trans community is like, oh, fuck, bitch.

34:04Jason Stewart:Like everyone else is like, I don't know if I want to show my balls on Maine. I don't think. I kind of have a whole little. You're like, I think my visibility is different maybe than hers. Yeah, for sure. I'm trying to get less clocky, not more. But it's one of the rare times where like a giant corporate, especially in today's kind of heightened state where a giant corporation is sort of tested on something and they strangely end up on maybe the right side of history, I would say. Which is interesting. It happens every once in a while. It's interesting. I totally forgot about that. That happened, like three people texted me about it, and I was sort of like, oh, that's crazy.

34:40And I didn't think about it again. It oddly wasn't that big of a deal considering what it was.

34:46Jason Stewart:Also, I think some part of it had to do with the fact that the images were very specifically artistically styled. So it looked more like. Yeah, it was giving real photo. It wasn't giving porn. It was the art of photography versus here's a Samsung flip phone picture of my pussy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two very different things. Honestly, it was giving teenagers in their bedrooms that book. It was that kind of vibe for me. Yeah, it's kind of like you're looking in the liner notes of a 70s girl grunge band, and you see a little nipple in there one time, and you're like, you know what, this is so tastefully done in a Baroque artistic fashion And I just feel like my mom let me keep it.

35:30Obviously, it's Ethel Cain. It's not like this is going to get, you know, Nick Fuentes doing 40 minutes live about it. He doesn't know who Ethel is. Well, actually, he is an indie lover, so maybe not.

35:39Jason Stewart:But I guess what I'm saying is - It's not like Slater doing it, is what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. I just think that the - I think that it's also a testament to how many images we see every day. Because I think a lot of people probably scrolled right by that image and double-clicked on it and saw Ethel Cain's face and didn't even process what was - I thought it was just two eight balls. Exactly. Exactly. That's what I would have thought too. Transvisibility Day is right around the corner. So who's next? Who's fucking next? I still have to get my hotel for that too. Step up. Step up. Yeah, Bar de Bello also very good.

36:11Jason Stewart:Had a nice piece of fish. Had a giant Negroni and a chalice. Oh, like Barbasso style. I'm Milan on my brain, but that is a - Exactly. That's great. I can't wait to go. We're going on the 16th. Oh, yeah. I'm going with you too, right? We have two open seats so we can talk offline about who to kind of give the VIP package. Okay. Yeah. We, we have our Paul Smith event happening on Wednesday and I, I'm sorry. I think our list is full for that. It's a, it's an intimate affair. I'm a little pissed off because I sent you this. You didn't even respond, but big competition that night in LA. And I'm a little bit upset at our friends over at born and raised.

36:50Jason Stewart:Yeah. I know you're listening. There's a Thundercat is also having a gathering as well that night. I'm good. A town divided. Yeah, I don't need any eight-string bass, but I do terror. Terror playing a born and raised collaborative event feels like that's my dance. What's the dance they do every year? That's your Sadie Hawkins. That's my Sadie Hawkins. My Sadie Hawkins is terror playing. Because, you know, Paul Smith wouldn't let us get a hardcore band. You know, we tried. You know, we tried. We were kind of beating around you. I said, Sir Paul, what do you think? No hardcore band. that's fine so i was like what about a warehouse downtown with 800 mexican guys in it and he said i'm looking to it foundation reunion we can give everybody socks just think about it it's something that it's something that could really work if the socks if the socks match the limited edition vinyl oh my god the paul smith socks that go all the way up to the knee sick like pro club style honestly this is a good idea this is a really good idea this is a good idea and it won't be cultural appropriation because i got a little bit of thug in me you know what i'm saying you you yeah famously you do have a little bit of thug in you what is the what is the parking situation at bar de bello not to get into the weeds but is it a valet yeah they have a valet lot okay right next door okay it's very convenient okay great i because i when i went when we went to visit to just kick the tires before before it opened parking on that parking on that part of sunset on the street is truly a gauntlet yeah and he knew that you if you don't have valet it's gonna fuck you but it's such a good place to drink and get drunk and like pregame that you should just uber there anyway yeah i was not pre-gaming we only i only had like one and a half drinks so i just drove sure uh-huh yeah you don't have to hey bro there's no cops will send this it's all good bro all the cops are all the all the cops are playing candy crush on the corner right now they're not looking at you no it's true i had one and a half drinks one of them was a large chalice one of them was a gallon jug of of vodka but otherwise it had um they were talking about it had it was like a large chalice kind of thing you know maybe 20 ounce cup or something like that inside and they put the negroni in there and then they put like the big kind of mixology cylindrical i mean sorry spherical rocks yeah yeah a round of ice and then the the problem is you know you have to really be able to handle the physics of the angles of it so the the ice doesn't come tumbling down and smack you right in the nose and you spilled the negroni everywhere oh and like an indiana jones boulder kind of situation coming at you yeah yeah yeah that is that is tough that's what remember when ice was such a big thing not not that ice i'm talking about ice cube when when you would go to a bar and have the rounded ice cube that some dork with a mustache would chisel that all day to get perfect you'd be laughed out of an establishment if you didn't have a a bespoke ice program that was so i mean i remember when i remember when coffee places i mean they might still do this when they would do cold brew with the cold brew cubes oh they do they do that was that there's um that is too far we were talking like it but was it loquat there's a place i forgot what it was i'll find out what it was but there's a place where the cold brew is$16.

40:01Jason Stewart:Oh, no, no. Yeah, Al was talking about it. It's a place that's in Silver Lake nearby, but maybe it's low clock. Well, we're going there. If there's a$16. But they have a cold brew that is$16. All right, well, I got to try it. I know. As soon as they said that, I immediately thought of you. There's a new coffee place in New York that's kind of trying to come for Integral's crown a little bit. Okay, go on. It's Korean-owned. It's called Park at Kim's. It's a little younger. Like we went yesterday and Alex was like, this is really good. But the crowd is a little cropped shirt. You know what I mean?

40:36It's a little, Integral is a better, I mean, I like the product more, but it's also just a better crowd in general. It's more normal. This is a little bit like TikTok, you know.

40:47Jason Stewart:What do you do about that in that situation where most of your demographic are cropped wearers?

41:11Jason Stewart:I guess many of these owners of these establishments are also cropping themselves, so it's a welcome. I wonder if the owner of this place is a cropper. I know that there were two different people in line with self-cropped shirts on. This is not a joke. A cropped Oxford. Bro, do you know what you got to look like as a man to wear a cropped Oxford shirt? You got to be famous or extremely sexy. You can't just be a schlubby guy that lives deep in Park Slope. If you're anything lower than music's role model, you need not apply for this. Yeah, these are advanced moves. It's rolling up. I know you see your favorites.

41:53I know you think you look like Austin Butler because you wear your keys on your fucking belt loop. But cropped Oxford is a crazy move for any civilian. It's crazy. Not for, obviously, women we're not talking about. Men. Like, you're a straight, regular 28-year-old guy with a job. There's no reason for you to have a cropped shirt on that you cut with scissors. It's true.

42:13Jason Stewart:It's sort of like, why not have both in terms of have a normal shirt and do you want to tuck it in or not? it has two different looks and they're like i'm gonna do a third thing i'm gonna cut it with scissors what if i do a secret what if i do a secret third thing and just chop it off but what what's worse the the cropping of the oxford i mean it's one thing to crop the you know the 80s football jersey if you have a you know sure a good bod that's fine it's fine but yeah we're cropping the the oxford shirt what is worse doing that or doing a sort of menswear sartorial button pattern thing where like the it does like a self-imposed french tuck where you like pull the top thing down and you like button the wrong buttons to different things i get i get a lot of i get a lot of instagram how-to videos about this how to look like a gay guy but at least with that nobody knows you did it like at least with that well sometimes yeah sometimes no sometimes it's like oh you just did it in a way where it's like a natural crop and it just looks kind of like it's floating normally and some of them like one one side of it is down and one side of it is up and it's like it has like an asymmetrical oh oh like mimicking the french tuck the french tuck yeah but it's more like an asymmetric you know when you see videos of people like here's how to tie your shoes in like a twisted way you know what i mean it's kind of like that but with your buttoning pattern so your uniqlo shirt sends a you know tells a story this blue oxford shirt tells my story and it's through it's through buttons i don't that you see there's just some things that are like i don't know man put a shirt on you know like there's i don't know man just put it like i mean i know that people put on button down and button up shirts in different ways some people unbutton a few at the top and pull over their head i'm traditional i button every button by hand it's childish behavior it's artisanal i do i touch every button that goes through the hole yeah it just reminds me of like when i'm sure i'm i'm wearing a look i'm unsure of i'll tell carolyn and she'll say like either tuck that shirt in or or put on a different one because that's not working and then instead of being like i'm gonna try to find you know you just sometimes the rules exist for a reason and sometimes you're like if you're gonna wear that and that's you know it's double breasted like you keep it close the whole time you know even when even when you're sitting down kind of thing or you know just little there no no no no no no we never button we never keep it button when we sit down the amount of times that i see guys doing that on tv it blows my fucking mind like it makes everyone look worse no jacket fits you well enough to sit down with it with a button closed because it's going to stretch weird double breasted no it doesn't it does not it doesn't work bro trust me on this as a person who's wearing double breasted suits for years it doesn't no suit looks good buttoned sitting down okay do you would you i mean you could do it okay i i'm the reason why i specifically brought this up is if you google image search fran lebowitz sitting every single photo is her sitting with a button i don't give a fuck jacket and but the kicker is the double-breasted part yeah but she also she also cuffs her pants eight inches and everybody lets it slide i don't really understand what like you know i mean i think she looks better than most 80 year old women for like a 78 year old woman her swag is is about as good as we're gonna get but it's because she's committed to it if you saw somebody walking down the street with jeans like that you would laugh at them okay well because she's committed to it which i respect try this on for size do you think that she does so much sitting and speaking engagements and things like that that she has her first of all this jacket first of all this jacket isn't double breasted okay which proves my point even more it still looks good it doesn't you there's no reason there's no reason to sit with a but i mean it's fine if you want to do that i just i as it's first of all it's not comfortable which always makes you look worse you know what i'm saying like if you're uncomfortable you're always going to look uncomfortable is what i'm trying to say damn i just realized adam freeland's going to look like fran lebowitz when he's older he already does i I know, but it'll fully realize.

46:24Jason Stewart:She looks great in this picture. She absolutely looks great in this picture, and it's fine. Well, I was going to say, do you think that she has her jackets custom tailored so when she's sitting down, it looks okay? Well, it looks fine because it fits properly, and it's definitely custom-made, and she's also sitting up straight. You know what I mean? It's one thing. Let's see what she looks like when she's tucking into a fucking Carbonara at Bar Pitti. You know what I'm saying? Like for the photo shoot, for the photo shoot, sitting up, you know, it's a little different in a day-to-day way. You need some candid looks.

46:55I get it. I get it. I'm just not keeping a button no matter what. And I don't understand why. Like when I see guys on TV, it's like, it blows my mind that like a famous actor who's on, you know, whatever, on the couch with Seth Meyers is like, dude, it just doesn't, it looks weird.

47:10Jason Stewart:Like I think people forget. To me, it just reminds me of a, it's a fat covering thing. Definitely. Like once you hit a certain age, you know, Fran's put on a couple LBs. But it's also one of those things. It's all good. It's like wearing a shirt. But if you look at a photo of her in the 70s and 80s, she's sitting down. The jacket's open. But it's like wearing a shirt in the pool. It makes it worse, actually. Do you know what I mean? Of course. It actually makes it worse. I mean, look. What are you hiding in there, Grandma? I was a fat person shirt puller for most of my life. I know the tricks that you try to pull, and it actually only makes it worse, is the funny part of that.

47:45Jason Stewart:You invented Untuck It way before they did. Yeah, y 'all thought that was new? Bro, no. We've been doing that. Talk to any of us 12-year-olds in the 90s. We've all been doing that. I love all those tweets of like, your fat friend will get shot 12 times in the face and pull his shirt down before calling 911. It's so funny, dude. This is so true. It's so true. Sometimes I'll see some shit like that and be like, God damn, somebody hit this shit on the head. Boy, that is exactly what happened. Well, I mean, that's the kind of humor that works well because if you are a fat person who understands and feels that, if you reply to the tweet, I felt that or whatever it is, then that's what that dark humor is for.

48:27Jason Stewart:It's not to make fun of fat people. It's for dark fatties. It's really funny. Really, really funny stuff. Let a dark fatty have a giggle. Come on, man. Just a little gig. Just a little chill. Yeah, while you're here, we should try to hit Wilds as well. I think you'll really like that place. I want to go to Wilds. I'm trying to go to Dean's. I'm trying to get all these fucking newfangled. Okay. Okay. But, um, are you, is your, is your calendar booked? No, I mean, I have, I mean, we have the Hanover pop up for the two days, but. And we have bar to bellow on the 16th. You said, yeah. So the 17th is open.

48:59I would say,

49:00Jason Stewart:I love that our podcast sometimes is just us planning our week and, uh, typing it into my icon. Hey man. I mean, I, we gotta get this done. We gotta get this done somehow. I mean, I'm fucking, I, I gotta say, uh, I got us a fruit cart for the pop-up, which I'm very excited about. Oh, frutas naturales? Yeah. I was like, you know, coffee. It's like we're around the corner. Like, you can go get a coffee at Sightglass. You can see it from Castle. You know what I mean? So I was like, I don't, you know, bringing all the integral shit and doing that would be fun. But I was like, you know what? I want access to watermelon.

49:30And that's kind of something. I'm prioritizing my own needs.

49:33Jason Stewart:Leave it to Chris to bring the fruit from WeHo just into regular Hollywood. Just into regular Hollywood. Yeah, just one block down to Hollywood. but i didn't it's it's very affordable to get one i feel like people should do this more it seems like such a nice thing to offer people it's it's very cheap what 500 bucks something like that yeah or maybe a little maybe more i mean i think it's like depending on what you're estimating but it's it's very cheap it's very cheap in the scheme of things that like beautiful at parties like this or whatever you know what i mean yeah it really it reminds me of those old rumors the hollywood conspiracy theories that all the fruit carts were like drug cartel i love that like access point locations like every single fruit cart with the grandma in it and if you look underneath it is just like a fucking m16 rifle and a bat duffel bag full of cash and drugs i did not i've never i've never heard that before that's really funny no it was like a weird little holly like you know the reason why they got on these fruit carts around here yeah that's the cartels that's their little drop off points the the dealers go and hide all their drugs and cash and those things and they you know use it as their little network and my ass was slopping that bowl of soup i mean that's that that's a classic like i want to believe this because it's so crazy situation like how could i not i mean there's that one there's the armenian mafia uh activist years you know like when you You see the little meme of like 2009 OG Kush, we still think about you memes.

51:01Jason Stewart:People are doing that for the Armenian syrup trade of 2017 to 2019 or something. So we're saying that the source of all lean sales was the Armenian people. Not all. In the Los Angeles. Not all. Not all. I think they just maybe had the insight to find a niche market and kind of really triple down and kind of, you know, triple X their rev. Okay, so were you able to purchase? They said you guys have, but also I think that's how like mafias are, the organizational work of the mafia is nice of like, you guys do coke, we do weed, you guys do meth, you guys do activists. We keep it separate and everybody wins.

51:43Yeah, yeah, I agree. That is nice.

51:45Jason Stewart:And the gangs that are the biggest and have the most people, they can get the biggest drugs and then the smaller ones. Biggest drugs. You mean about popularity? Don't get me wrong. I love selling cough syrup. It's great, but I would love to get that cocaine account. If we could get the cocaine account, I think our year would be looking up. I think we'd be looking really good for 2027 if we get the cocaine account. Yeah, don't get me wrong. I mean, you know, 2C's fine. But I feel like when you talk about getting drugs, it feels very boring and whitewashed now. There's like no danger in it at street level.

52:20Jason Stewart:Yeah, but I've also, you know, I'm an old man. I'm good. I don't need to do that anymore. You know what I mean? No, I understand that, but I feel like anybody— I hustled hard to get here, but you want the danger. I don't even want the danger. I just feel like if you're a 24-year-old, you should have to get in somebody's car that you don't know and drive around the block. Like, you shouldn't be able to open the PDF on your phone and text signal and have somebody drop it off to you with a drone. There should be a middle ground is all I'm saying. No, I agree with you. There's some things where you're like, this shouldn't be this easy.

52:48Jason Stewart:Yeah. You could feel your brain smoothing over and your body becoming sedentary. Dude, I don't need it. It's like food being delivered by a robot. We don't need that. We really, really don't need that. It's not that bad. Well, they are a lot cheaper than us humans. That's true. We can't forget that. It's going to happen. I should have done it. I was going to do a live unboxing of the Lena Dunham book, but I unboxed it last night. I got my fame-sick eye mask as well as some pajamas. Okay. The eye mask is embroidered. It looks hand embroidered, to say the name of the book. Feels twee. Feels Olivia Rodriguez.

53:27It's very twee. I can't wait to get into it, though. I got it here. Hopefully, I can get a few chapters in on my flight to Greensboro, North Carolina in the morning. Are you going back into the studio? What's going on? Yeah, we're hitting high point. No, I'm going to this Aubert's Resort in North Carolina with Barber. but there's a the main reason i'm going or one of the reasons i'm going is because

53:51Jason Stewart:there's a a fly fishing lesson okay david coggins our resident pulling some brownies out of the creek david coggins is going so this is basically we found a way to go on a fly fishing trip together that doesn't cost you there was any money coggins i feel bad about saying you need to take a new photo for the masters this year stop ghosting me but i'm gonna i'm gonna um there's also some atv skiing which i'm very excited about i think it's i need to touch grass a little bit and i think this is a good opportunity for that what do you think the poly market what the calci market over under on you pulling something out of that water what do you think it's going to be was it what's it called pulling lips it was hooking lip what's the term that's more that's that's more for for a bass maybe i'm not sure sam hind said to me the other night i was like this motherfucker really can't do everything uh i he's like oh you don't know how to tie flies wow okay that's that's literally let's lay the vibe oh you can't dunk or oh you can't tie a fly um i'm not going to catch anything okay um but i i don't think but i you know it i do feel like that the charm of a sport like fishing is the beginner's luck possibility we're like the one guy who doesn't know what he's doing all of a sudden is got a big daddy on the line and i get the photo and then we throw it back grandma caught a marlin did you see that yeah yeah yeah yeah it's not deep sea you don't have a lot of um fishing experience though right uh i actually did fish some some as a as like a kid um with some of my uncles but not no not like anything to write home about i don't even really i'm not really even that interested in i just feel like i need to have the experience because people it's particularly fly fishing people are so passionate about it i feel like i need to understand why there's only one way to do there's only one way to do that i mean it might take fly fishing to get your brain to zen out a little bit you know you extreme minds need extreme ways to release and if you're not going to free solo you know maybe this you know you you and the creek and the waiters no phone no memoirs to read no nothing it's just you and the the creek the bubbling brook yeah i mean but But the only problem is that the only way to get from Greensboro to L.A.

56:05Well, the resort, the Aubertus, is like an hour and 20 or something from the airport in Greensboro. Because I think it's pretty remote. It's like in the mountains. So when I was adjusting my flight, the 5 a.m. option was the best I could. So 5 a.m. connect in Atlanta and then Atlanta to L.A. is the best you can do.

56:23Jason Stewart:Well, you're going to be waking up at 3 a.m. to go pull some of those rainbows out. Cars coming at 2.30 on Wednesday morning. I'm like, man, that's a little, even for me, that's an hour and a half tour. Like 4 a.m. is kind of my limit on stuff like that. Yeah. Well, I mean, but you do it in those situations where it's worth it. Sure, of course. At the fly fishing influencer trip in North Carolina. You make things like that. That come around once in a lifetime. That's your Noma and Bieber helicopter ride. It is. just got to get back but i mean i get but i do we do love i i joke and i tease but i love uh we love the auberge resorts family over here on how long gone don't we getting to la at 9 30 i it's just it's getting to la at 9 30 in the morning though even after all that you got a full day it's really the best it's the best possible outcome you're gonna be primed up and ready to podcast live with delaney delaney is our guest delaney rose confirmed as our guest which i think will be fun she's men's wear specialist delaney row also her coming her coming off of her coachella i think there's a lot to discuss there between week one and week two yeah we were watching it last night it was funny it wasn't it wasn't the strokes it wasn't you know these bands that carolyn wanted to see we were watching that japanese dj um who had the crazy boiler room yo let me pull it up oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i remember that yeah yosuke yukimatsu he he had that boiler room set and i was sort of dismissive of it because he was playing like corn songs and stuff and it was just not really rubbing me the right way but we watched his set at coach coach last night and sold carolyn was literally watching this guy dj and she was like can we get tickets to next week sorry what i want to go to coachella now or you're not sold i mean also this is my whole point it's like this guy's gonna play in la at a normal place in the next six months you know what i mean so it's like if you want to see it you can just go see it he's at celebrities in vancouver see no problem on wednesday and thursday we're gonna be out of town wednesday and thursday it's over it's celebrities over it's celebrities in vancouver yeah i mean but all that is to say good job yosuke yuki matsu he played like taylor swift and apex twin and you know he's really doing the whole thing okay all right i heard i was there for girl talk the first time um i'm all set i think he lost me when he played a billy eilish song of course but overall good job so his whole thing is he plays all of the he plays all of this new stuff he plays like a lot of like kind of hard gnarly extreme music mixed in with some other genres in a way oh i guess corn yeah so think of it as like an open format like dj am kind of thing where now i'm doing this and now i'm playing don't stop believing and now i'm playing mwa as you're running the gamut but it's just with um music that is maybe a little bit more extreme as the backbone i see so just like really crazy hard techno like and then it's you know a modern uh pop vocal on top of it and it somehow just works in an extreme way.

59:33Jason Stewart:Oh, it works for somebody. How long gone? Thank you guys for listening to the show. We're back next week. We got a couple guests lined up. One OG guest, long time friend of the show, first time back in years. Should be fun. Even though he's already told all his good stories on, you know, Ben Fair, but whatever. But he will come alive when he keys with the two top keyers in the key game. We'll find him. We'll find some common ground to discuss, I'm sure. thank you guys for listening LA see you next week and later yeah that's it later You are somebody that I don't know, but you're taking shots at me like it's Patron.

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One-on-one pod today, Chris is in New York, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about leg washing, celebrities at Coachella, Bieber’s gay guy music video night, Euphoria diaper play, taking a helicopter to Noma, Sabrina Carpenter’s car, Ethel Cain showing brain on main, spherical mixology ice cubes, cropped oxfords, we make some dinner plans, Chris going fly-fishing this week, and DJ Yousuke Yukimatsu’s set from the weekend catching TJ’s attention.

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