936. - Chris & Jason

25:48That's the big. But also, I mean, there was also a substack fight, I guess. I didn't read the actual details yet, but one substacker tried to fight another substacker, and then he went to his hotel and took a picture of his hotel. He's like, I'm outside. Come outside. Like on some real – and they're calling it the substack fight. I mean, a bunch of people I know were there at the dinner, so I need to tap in, not to check on their safety, but to hear about this substack story because they're tweeting through it, so they're fine. Yeah. But I need more details on this because it's pretty interesting.

26:18Jason Stewart:We need some all birds on the ground. Who is talking about what? who is doing what who is emily sunberg throwing hands with with a with a latina outside the hampton inn i don't know imagine imagine emily sunberg tripping erica kirk or something you know what i mean just on some like high school burn type shit bitch let's sit down bitch sun sunberg and whoa vicky pulling each other's weave out that's nice oh it was crazy down there man she got the exclusive whoa vicky was wearing a weave i'll do five bucks a month for that now i mean honestly that's the thing about this is that people like emily should be there because they're the only ones because any new york times has to keep it above board because they have to report on it they haven't been going for like 20 years they have to report on the media side of it only whereas someone like emily could literally go down there and be like yeah these republican chicks were doing meth fucking dana white tried to grab dana white tried to grab my ass fucking i saw erica kirk in the bathroom using fucking you know but i just think that there's there needs to be people that are infiltrating to get the real story.

27:20Jason Stewart:Who's going to cover the mess? Who's going to cover the real good stuff? Not these political sub-stackers who are just there to be cunty to each other. We need somebody down there in a look, having cocktails, just listening. Just taking it all in, man. Just soaking it up. His annual subs aren't even as good as his one. He only has 73 ,000 subs. So then he said, I've got... I checked the subs after. I'm going to leave him a note. I'm going to leave him a note in his footer. Don't make me post to notes because I will live from the dinner. I will. Don't fuck with me. Was the guy, I only saw a video of the guy and apparently all the shots were just like shots from the Secret Service, not of him.

28:05Jason Stewart:And it looked like he was just like trying to run through security. And then a bunch of Secret Service people pulled guns out. And I guess. bro it's like it's like all that is to say we don't know what this guy was trying to do we don't know if he was trying to he could bro he could have thought this was the mark jacobs show and he was trying to protest the fur we don't fucking know okay well here's where i'm going the only footage we don't we don't have any footage of him you know firing at the president or or the you know any high level officials he's just running really fast through a hotel hallway 11 fucking trained SEALs, you know, brandish their weapons, and this guy's hogtied on the floor.

28:44Jason Stewart:So was he just doing a Scientology building speed run of the press secretary dinner? Dude, if I don't see a gun, I'm going to have to assume so. I thought you were going marathon training, but that was in London. So I didn't know where you were going. He's sub two. I don't know if he's doing sub two, but I mean, it's impressive. I could honestly... He was wearing Adidas. I saw another, the downfall of Nike continues. He had the$500. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, and they're not even available yet. How did you get those? You know, big brother's watching. If there's no gun, if there's no gun, it's a speed run.

29:20There's no other way. What else can we chalk it up to?

29:22Jason Stewart:Speed running and TMZ switching to shaming politicians being gay at Disney World while the government crumbles. it's the same thing as as young teens dude you know on on kick wearing like anime furry costumes and gooning and you know doing donuts in their car and in fucking whatever galaxy gas they're taking all that negative energy and then funneling it into scientology but the problem is when you're speed running a government building they will shoot you dead versus they will happily shoot you if you speed run you know the church yeah they're gonna yeah so are we gonna speed run the vatican are we gonna speed run the jewish mattress tunnels are we gonna speed run the evangelical mega churches are we gonna speed run the the pentagon you know where does it end that's easy speed run conde nast that's easy shit bro i'll put on my nike alpha flies i'll run right through the vatican i don't give a fuck i'll put on some two inch marathon shorts like harry squad they don't play they don't play at the vatican fuck that bro i got my district visions on they won't see me the rolling vatties will fucking light you up five seconds it's not sweet for you at the vat like i've been in the vatican and i was walking around and it felt more frightening than like when you're in you know a dean like you felt like everyone is watching you from like cameras that we don't even know exactly it felt like like we were in the the catholic dome i believe that a hundred percent you ever get some catholic dome i believe god damn this this is not red scare stop I think that the I think that the They give Catholicdom They don't get it The speed running thing Is pretty cool It feels It feels like a victimless Kind of Like it makes the Scientology guys In the blue polo shirts Unfortunately they dress like me Kind of like Seem just like so stupid Anyone would look confused Like if that happened to anyone You're going to look stupid Because it's confusing You know what I mean But they look extra stupid Because they're dressed like They're going to fourth grade And their mommy's walking them like down the street.

31:24Jason Stewart:So when a guy runs... You flippin' stop it now, you guys. So when like a streamer in Yeezy sprints by in the middle of the day, they just, they look so confused, which is like the whole point. It's funny. But I mean, because what can they do? All they can do is like tackle you and kick you out. There's not, where are they going to call the cops and say what, you ran into a building? And we're, and the Scientology building is like on Hollywood Boulevard where like the police there are so beyond jaded. like they're only responding to active murders like like ask chris chang his his offices are yeah yeah every day he's like oh the machete guy's back or you know whatever all that happens so if it's like oh there's like seven 14 year olds wearing like pikachu costumes running down a hallway yeah you know we'll get to that when we get to that so this could heal the nation because all of these teens they have no outlet for anything except for like electric bicycles that go 70 miles an hour.

32:22Jason Stewart:No, I mean, I just feel like - Put these motherfuckers on those bikes and speed run them through all these places that suck. Yeah, who cares? Like, this is completely, this is, honestly, this is a great example of what should be, streaming should be used for. Something completely stupid and funny that doesn't really, like, no one cares about Scientology. No one's like, don't do that to them, that's mean. You know what I mean? It's not punching down. It's like one of the world's weirdest, worst organizations that people have been trying to figure out since the beginning of time. So we're not going to get to the bottom of it, and Tom Cruise is never going to talk.

32:55All we can do is have a 14-year-old run as fast as he can through the front doors that are open because they're trying to recruit people. There's no way they're going to get you for this. It's good shit.

33:05Jason Stewart:It's true. It's good shit. Go speedrun the Apple offices, get to fucking Jobs' desk. He gives you a high five and some new Air Max pros. Damn, you did a kid that was swag. Somebody's going to do something cool. This is going to happen to somebody, and they're going to be like, oh man sit now let me get you a pizza big bro it's gonna be it's gonna be something no like i said speed run the condé offices i got all the way to wintour's desk and guess what yeah i got the internship yeah exactly oh i got the invite to the first night of devil wears product too and i got a selfie with sam hein on the way out speed running the speed the problem is now somebody's gonna monetize speed running it's gonna be like all right i'm i'm speed running for a brand.

33:46I'm going to speedrun.

33:48Jason Stewart:No, I'm speedrunning for a cause, brother. Well, obviously we're all... This is my 5K speedrun for PETA. God damn it. Where are you going to run? The furriers? Where do you even go? No, no, no. I'm going to, on behalf of the Wagyu Beef Council, I'm going to speedrun the PETA office. Spray those motherfuckers down with real blood. I just think this is going to... Because I think there's an interview with the speedrunner. This one's for Big Angus. I haven't seen it yet, but I feel like I saw something where somebody interviewed him after it and talked about it, which I would love to hear. Wait, interviewed who after what?

34:20Interviewed the speedrunner after he had been caught, like the guy who did the science. Because there's other ones, but the Scientology is the one that went viral. At least that's not what I've seen. I'm sure there's several.

34:30Jason Stewart:Because everyone, when you see the video come up, you're like, this I want to watch now. Yeah, it's perfect. I want to see what's going on inside of that fucking creepy-ass office. Nothing warms my heart more when the internet is used the way it's supposed to be used. And it's so rare where it's something that's just straight up funny and doesn't hurt anyone's feelings or offend anyone. It's just stupid, funny stuff. And this is a very modern example of that, I feel. Yeah. And if you're one of those stupid teens listening to this right now and your life isn't going well and you're doing bad, dumb stuff, channel that and just put it towards stuff that sucks right now.

35:05Jason Stewart:And we'll try to give you more ideas, but stick with religions first, and then you can kind of work your way in the pharmaceutical world. If you end up getting into Pfizer, just grab Jason some Xanax on the way out, but they might pop you for that. That's the problem. Eli Lilly might put you in cuffs. See if they got any new shit that ain't out yet. You know what I'm saying? dude i told you when i when i went to when i was in la uh i went to the cvs on santa monica and la cienega and they had all these signs about about no longer stocking promethazine like don't rob us we don't have it vibes like multiple like i went to i walked by the pharmacy section there were three cardboard signs like not these aren't like they didn't like print out a piece of paper and tape it up you know what i mean this was like something they manufactured signs to say we don't got lean no mo please leave us alone hired a graphic designer no 100 in-house graphic designer at cvs definitely made this it's crazy it reminds me of like uh i'm sure some of our oakland listeners oakland california bay area listeners can remember when you know people just started rolling all their windows down when they'd park their car in a bad neighborhood so that people could go in through open up all the glove compartments and you know see that there's no shit without having to smash their their window you know people would have to replace their car windows you know multiple times per week so everyone would just leave their windows rolled down cars unlocked just like the worst thing that could happen is you're just gonna take a nap in here i remember that phase i remember that phase same kind of vibe once a week on instagram somebody's car gets robbed in san francisco like all my gear was in my car whether it was you know if it's a photo gear whether it was music gear whatever the gear was it's always stolen before ai yeah it's at whatever anything it's always stolen laptop it's gone this is gone that's gone never fails never fails now it's like they stole my coaster um they stole my empty sight glass cup not my sight glass mug that's my favorite mug speaking of mugs let's talk about your boy drake he uh he's on the internet because this doll is refreshed and his body is on fleek all of his his injections are tea what do you think about this chris is is iceman season finally thought out jason we're back with our blue chip podcast sponsor better help jason you know that i deal with some financial stress uh and that will affect far more than just my bank account um it can take a serious toll on my mental health my relationships and i'm not alone jason don't smile alex you fucking bitch 88 percent of americans that are feeling some form of financial stress i don't even have to make a joke your wife's there to do it for me thank you 88 jason says thank you 88 of americans are feeling some sort of financial stress at the start of 2026 money worries often bring anxiety sleep disruption even depression and are one of leading sources of conflict for couples oh hell no this month we want to normalize the emotional weight of financial stress and remind people that struggling with money doesn't mean they've failed sometimes it's just about assessing the right kind of support yeah i mean talking about it breaking that seal is how you do it let's say you know we're not talking about financial stress of a house or a baby or something something else maybe you got a covet dog and now uh you know five years later that dog ate some of your underwear pull that shit out is going to be about seventeen thousand dollars you know we we need to talk to better help right now because some decisions are going to have to get made and a third party is a great person to do that with better help has the world's largest online therapy platform if you don't like your therapist or if you think that they don't have your best interests in mind and maybe they think they side with your partner on this issue, feel free to flush them down and pick a new one with our good friends at BetterHelp.

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39:40Jason Stewart:Have you noticed how good his body and face are looking? Dude, Iceman's here, baby. It's go time. May 15th. I'm counting down, obviously. That's not what I asked you, Chris, and you know that. I mean, look, I never think Drake's face or body looks bad, so I couldn't tell the difference. I mean, some people are saying that he dissolved his abs, which I'm not really sure if that's how that works, but I'm no doctor. I'm no Terry Dubrow, but I don't think it works like that. Try my 30-minute ab dissolver routine. I don't know of Drake. I think that this is – if this isn't good, it's going – I mean, the thing with this discourse is that he had, like, a major hit record whatever but just no one cared about it but it was huge you know what i mean like since the beef nokia yeah like i'm not listening to that shit but it was one of his biggest if not biggest records ever or something you know what i mean i think it's a big on tiktok so it's like what you know he's not obviously he's not but this has to be the thing that he's got to do besides uh make sure his botox is up to date is not talk about kendrick lamar ever again that is the key that is the key to moving forward for everyone there's no rap number one song in two years or whatever it's because they can't like you have to just move on just act like it never happened there's no reason if you keep if you don't talk about it people will stop talking about it I really believe that I really really believe that take the high road I don't know if he can do it I don't know if he can do it because he needs to channel his inner Canadian powers because the Canadians often always do take the high road in a conflict right they're always They bow down, move on, non-confrontational.

41:12Jason Stewart:Well, I don't know about all that, but I mean, sometimes, yeah, you know, in theory. I'm thinking macro. You're thinking a little bit more in and around your living room. Sometimes they have a point. Let me just say sometimes they have a point, and I agree with them often. You know what I mean? And I like to do chores and stuff, but I don't know. Yeah, I think that if he completely ignored it and just acted like, and just put out a great record with some sporty produced bangers if he gets boy wanda on it everybody will be happy that's all people want he could he could single-handedly bring rap music back to like the charts no no question he's the only person and you know all of his work with yg let's wake that up a little bit he had so many little kind of mid-tempo club bangers for the thoughts as well as for the gang members the problem is there's no there's no viral regional hits for him to hop on anymore there's no migas there's no block boy jb that you know i mean there's none of that anymore I mean maybe there is He's gonna have to hop on a fucking Olivia Dean song if he wants to get in the I read something there hasn't been a rap song in the top 10 in like a year No that's real no that's very real and you can feel it that's I mean it's like we've moved from hip hop to country and now it's like geese season it's like rock season like that's where we're at in like popular music to some extent I mean my girl Ella you know as an Ella Ella's fella number one that's a hit Okay well Ella is a good example of what I think Drake needs to return to because everyone everyone claims to know you know he needs to get back to the old Drake or whatever but nobody's telling him exactly what the old Drake what elements of the old Drake he needs to return to because there's so many you know petals on his flower what is your what is your favorite Drake like is your because my favorite Drake is probably the future out that that album is is probably the one that I could listen to the most.

43:00Jason Stewart:Drake and Future's album, What a Time to Be Alive from 2015, 11 years ago. I remember where I was. I stayed up. That's the thing. That's the last time people, he would premiere those on his Apple radio show. People would stay up. That shit does not happen anymore at all. I remember DJing at the hip hop club at Los Globus and even Plastic Bag, even the slow songs that are not the club bangers would go off. You'd play Big Rings, you'd play Jumpman, Diamond Dancing, Digital Dash, all the bangers, but even Plastic Bag would just go off. Big Rings will make me put my head through a wall right now. That shit absolutely rocks.

43:42Jason Stewart:When Future was linked up with Drake, that was... I can't disagree with you. It's like when Cherry and Dr. Pepper linked up. Good things happen. Exactly. Exactly. Great way to put it. Thank you for that. Whoever decided to put sour cream and onions together. You're crazy for that one. Okay, so what I think Drake hasn't done in a while that he needs to get back to, when he was at his peak, he was being hyper-specific about his perverted advances towards women. He would name these young women by name. We didn't forget about her. We didn't forget. Okay, we haven't forgot. I mean, obviously, you know, the Rihannas and the Ness and the Millie Bobbies and whatever.

44:25Jason Stewart:he would he would call hotties out by name and mention them in songs so if he you know if he's talking about whoever the hotties are now the dua lipas the the olivia deans the if he had a song where he's like i'm trying to fuck i want to fuck sabrina carpenter like a whatever you know i want to fuck sabrina carpenter like an animal over the nine inch nails beat like if he was just talking about i'm trying to fuck on sabrina i'm trying to fuck on you know rodrigo whatever oh that yeah that was a time you're right i mean you know i was thinking i was thinking more courtney from hooters on peach tree just because that touches that touches my soul but most people don't know courtney most people don't know courtney but it but it serves the same it does serve the same purpose where it like yeah if he was just like absolutely 100 thirsting over like a pop star people and he's just nasty with it people would like that you're right yeah sabrina carpenter is a good example because she's nasty with it too like she would be she would be down for that i think she would be down for that sort of public uh back and forth you know yeah this is a good idea jason fucking on uh fucking on jenny fucking on dua fucking on halsey if he had a song about like i'm trying to get i'm trying to eiffel tower lord and zara larson boom you know straight to the top madison beer in the sheets madison i got madison beer No, Madison Beer ain't going to work because he's actually...

45:48Bridal Path? I got beer in Bridal Path? No, he popped. He popped already. He can't... It can't be... It needs to be someone so white and not really realistic that it really feels... Like Haley from Paramore or something. Like, let's go really far. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go really far with it. Got Dome from Rina Sawamina. It used to almost be a rite of passage. You know what I mean? That was part of it. Man, Drake, goddamn, bro. Don't even give me a start of redemption. Oh, that's my shit. That's the one I like when he sings.

46:17Jason Stewart:If Iceman comes out, track 17 is called Gracie Abrams. So just imagine what that would do on Spotify first day out. He just sons Paul Mezcal in the first verse. He says, bro, come on, Paul. You ain't got money like me. You're a beetle. I'm a black beetle. I don't know if, I mean, I don't know what. It's definitely finished. I mean, it comes out in two weeks. I mean, I know rappers like to take it down to the last second, but I feel like it's probably finished. Yeah, I saw all the brand guidelines. It's got to be close, right? Young people are like, fuck a rollout. fuck that i'm like dude like guys it's fine drake's fucking drake's 39 years old let him tease it for two weeks for christ's sake like let him tap the tongue for a little bit before he throws it yeah i just i just don't feel like i i'm not asking him to like the ice thing was funny like building that huge thing is like funny actually and i don't i just like you can't you gotta let him do that it's not like he i mean it's not bringing out theo vaughn at stagecoach but it's close enough for him.

47:11Jason Stewart:Yeah, let Badman have a chilly spectacle one time. Look, guys, I just want to have a chilly spectacle to release my album. That's all I want. Just leave me be. Just let me do my thing. God damn it. I'm ready, though. I'm ready. Because if it's good, it's going to really be a thing. I would say if it's even 50 % as good as the music that we're talking about that he made, people are going to lose their fucking minds because it's so dry. We're in the Sahara. for this kind of show. Hopefully he can rewrite the, take the word ice back from the right, right? I think that's what he's trying to do because this is, you know, he might not be as aware, even though he lives in Houston, you know, he's Canadian.

47:50He might not be as aware of the problems we're having down here and the power that word holds.

47:54Jason Stewart:Yeah, and also these Canadians, their relationship to ice and frigid temperatures, it hits a much closer to home, down to the bone. Hugely, oh, hugely different. It's in my DNA. I'm very sorry, but it's in my DNA. I just needed to tell you this. It's absolutely in my GNA because up in Hamilton, where I grew up in Hamilton, it gets fucking cold. Okay. I mean, it gets fucking freezing up there all winter long. It's fucking cold. So, you know, we got to do what we can there. Okay. You mentioned Theo Vaughn. He was DJing with Diplo at Stagecoach and Waka Flocka and Sidney Sweeney, I guess. Do you know what's going on with stagecoach?

48:33Jason Stewart:Because I remember like a year or two ago, everyone was like, y 'all, low-key stagecoach is like better than Coachella. And I feel like that they had like two, one, one and a half years of that. And now, I mean, the gods of indie rock struck stagecoach down with a violent wind. So they had to like close it down last night. We hope Rebecca Black is okay. Oh yeah, I saw that. Country artist Rebecca Black is okay. People were mad at Zach Bryan. He's like, you fucking idiots. Look at this. And there's like a picture where it's like giant bolts of lightning above the stage and like a full sandstorm he's like what the fuck am i supposed to do this ain't up to me bozos i mean i think that this has to do with the i think country got so popular and then it got sort of co-opted and then it was everyone who was like likes it a little bit but is also sort of like coachella is for whatever you know like coachella's lib lgbtq the xx i'm not into that i'm into fucking i don't even know who plays stage coach but it's not that country is it not not so much anymore i mean besides diplo but even the headliners it's not like the headliners is dirks bitley yeah it's like um like post malone is playing today but they yeah they have like hootie and journey and pitbull ludicrous teddy swims it's basically just coachella for for like i would say not far like middle ground people who think coachella is for like teenagers which is like okay okay middle ground people who does that are you talking about that's like in terms of age or in terms of like coolness because no in terms of political beliefs i'm saying it's i'm saying it's like coachella is definitely like the fun we're gonna do drugs young hollywood liberal vibes like indie like fuck ice pin you know and then stagecoach is a little more like blue lives matter i got 24 miller ultra miller you know michelob ultras in the cooler and the yeti and the in the in the big jeep i'm not i'm look you guys like i'm cool with gay people i just i don't know any but i'm cool with it type people type people you know what i mean because because like sydney sweeney is the ultimate version of that where it's like she's not ever going to say anything actually fucked up but you just everybody just puts it on her and she doesn't deny it and it works it's kind of like fine for her but yeah her sitting on scooter scooter bronze shoulders is something else i'll tell you what you guys are too old for that shit yeah i mean i I know that it's something beyond stagecoach.

50:55Jason Stewart:Like you said, it's become so much more than just country music version of Coachella. Now it's just like kind of everything. Like, is it just, you know, Coachella for more basic people or Coachella for the rest of the people? Or is it like Coachella for people who just don't? I think it's... Not simpletons, but, you know. I mean, I just think it's like an easier thing to... Like, they're not... Stagecoach is a fastball down the middle based on what you just told me. I mean, you know, it's like I could go to that and have... You and I could go to that and enjoy it. It's just, it's not totally our thing.

51:27Whereas like I could go to Coachella and probably enjoy it more. You know what I'm saying? But like it's, it's, it's, I think all of these things are just about experience now. And the music is sort of secondary, but you have to align with one or the other. Unless you're Diplo. Well, yeah.

51:39Jason Stewart:I mean, we would, we can go there and watch, you know, like Third Eye Blind and the Wallflowers are playing, you know? Yeah, it's sick. Book in that with the, with the T-Pain dubstep country DJ set. I would, I would honestly, what you just said. I'm not unhappy. What you just said to me appeals to me more than Peggy Goo in Sahara or whatever. Like, actually. You know what I mean? Like, The Wallflowers and Third Eye Blind, I would rather see than almost all bands that played Coachella. And that's, I mean, I'm, you know, that's my personal taste, obviously. But I just mean, like, that isn't country music at all.

52:09Like, not even a little bit. Like, you know what I mean? That's just, like, alternative rock from a different era, which is fine. I mean, that's, you know, but I think it all needs a, I think that, like, I guess Stagecoach did a good job of being, able to sort of like i mean coachella did too coachella used to be beck and now it's sabrina carpenter like all of these things just sort of like bob and weave coachella used to be like we

52:30Jason Stewart:have a this tent is for a turntable ism and scratching and now it's k-pop k-pop k-pop yeah it's so it's like all of these things sort of shape shift depending on what the market demands and people i think coachella is such an established brand that like like we always talk about it sells out before you know it doesn't matter like it just said it sells out before has it has it been around for so long whatever 25 years now or whatever it is has it been around so long that they now have to consider booking for all these people and their children are they like is that what they're is that what they're focusing on to try and make sure that they sell out every year before announcing the lineup i think every festival would love to sell out before you know i think every festival the goal is but i mean they i mean is is that what they're trying to do like book some you know some older legacy stuff i think it's also is it just all for the youngs i think it's just a little bit of like who's available and how much money we got honestly i think it's a little bit i think it's more about that than it is about like the actual sort of taste curation i guess because now it's so big it's like there's something for everybody like you know what i mean if you there's a no matter how much of a fucking what no matter how what you're into you could buy that ticket if you want to go and there's at least one or two things you want to see every day no matter what you know what i'm saying it doesn't it doesn't really if you want to go do drugs with your friends and just have fun you're who cares like it's like yeah there's gonna there's at least if i don't care about superior copper there's something else i care about you know what i mean so it's like it doesn't really it doesn't really matter it's i think it's that's what's so interesting about that and i think that's what you get for sticking around for so long is that you it's a cultural thing it has it almost has nothing to do with the music okay well what do you think about the the form festival in arcosanti arizona looks very good so i guess really good i would go in turn you know like if coachella is you know a huge you know video like a cnn or a huge platform and then form is like the tbpn of festivals just a a small audience in comparison but a lot of heavy hitters on there you know what is what is the future of form what is the purpose of but for our listeners at home, it's like a music festival, 2 ,000, you know, 2 ,500 attendees, no overlapping sets, and they have Lorde, Turnstile, Geese, Blood Orange, Disclosure, you know, like a very good, cool, interesting lineup.

54:54Jason Stewart:We've got, we even got the Cooties and Fuckers and Feefies. The key to that, I think the key to that is that it's so small, so it can never feel like if you're, you know what I mean? It feels like a very different thing at that scale. and if you can't, if you make that bigger, it just becomes, then it's just another festival. Okay, so how do they control it? I mean, obviously the location is so remote. How do they make sure that only cool people who want to be here? Well, you can't do that. I mean, I think they have to do something because when you have, you know, big groups on like Turnstile and Lorde who sell out stadiums, how do you not have 2 ,500 Lorde fans buy a ticket with their online bots every day?

55:34You know, like how do you - Because you're putting it in the middle of nowhere, first of all, in a psychedelic place that I think a lot of people would not want to go to. And I also think that festival in its own way is also a brand. I mean, you're right, getting these big headliners to do it because they think it's cool. I mean, I don't know. I don't know the answer. But I mean, I think it's a pretty, it's a cool idea. That sounds actually fun. The thing that Imogen does in San Francisco, that also sounds fun. like I don't even though I don't like any of that music it sounds fun like it sounds cool the lineup is good it feels small everything looks good you know what I mean I just think that's the I think it's basically gonna I think what we're gonna get to a point it's gonna be like like that kind of shit and then the the thing uh Newport like that kind of stuff with all the history and then it's gonna be Lollapalooza Coachella Bonnaroo and some of this other stuff you know is just gonna go away because it's like I know that people love Kilby Block Party or whatever and the lineups are really good but i just don't know i mean i just don't know how long we can keep doing festival after festival after festival with basically the same lineup and people and all of them work i just don't i don't know how it's possible so so the forum festival three days

56:47Jason Stewart:2 ,500 my person micro festival in in arizona each ticket is basically a thousand dollars you get car camping complimentary beverages all weekend including alcohol um access to all the stages and everything a tote bag full of goodies there's no vip areas there's no overlapping sets everyone is all in the same zone so i mean that's cool it's cool but no the well the thing that's going to keep people out is a thousand dollar ticket price i mean even though i know coachella is that but whatever yeah but when you're but then the problem is only people that can afford these expensive tickets come in so it's just anyone who has a thousand dollars and also So that means the total ticket revenue, the total revenue period is$2.5 million.

57:35Jason Stewart:So then you have to convince all of these bands who are on tour all the time to come play for basically free. I mean, they clearly have, though. They have. It works. I mean, I think it's just like, I think also when you do festivals all the time, you're like, this actually sounds like a good one and it makes sense for our routing. Let's fucking do it. Like, it's cool. No, it's cool. Like, why not? I'm either going to be in a fucking hotel parking lot with five buses, you know what I mean? Or I can go play this thing that's cool with people I like. I think that's a – I don't know. To me, that actually appeals to me.

58:07I probably wouldn't camp in a car, but the rest of it – But does everyone play for free?

58:12Jason Stewart:Does Zach Fox play for free as well? I don't know. I don't think anybody's playing for free. I'm sure there's sponsors involved. There's a way to get that done and the ticket price feel premium without being like, because you could, in reality, for what you just described, you could charge$2 ,500 and people would pay it and sell it in an hour. I agree. I agree. So$1 ,000 for that is pretty reasonable considering that. Yeah, also, I'm looking at the website and they have the Spotify Fresh Finds stage available to check out new independent artists. Hey, bro, they're paying for half of it, at least.

58:44Jason Stewart:Question answered. But I mean, that's a good, that's smart. Spotify should be a part of something like that. They can't, Spotify can't make an impact at a big festival. like no one knows what's going on you know i mean no one gives a fuck yeah all right well we're going to gas up the gas up the jet we're going to fucking arizona yeah if anyone wants to bring us out to do a live podcast or a dj set imagine okay so did you guys take your mushrooms yet um all right well um well i want to say i just need to say thank you to the uh to the addition como family for the weekend is oh yeah what happened i didn't even know you were going to Lake Como, Chris.

59:20Jason Stewart:What's up with that? Well, I was in Milan for the Salone and then it was the, they planned it so basically that like if anybody that was, they were going to invite was, you know, was in Milan, it's an hour drive from, which I didn't realize it was that close. It was only an hour. I didn't know that. It's like an hour. This morning to get to Malpenza from Como, it was like an hour and five minutes. With traffic, it'll be like an hour and a half, but it's really close actually. I didn't, I didn't realize either. Bravo. But yeah, it was nice. They opened, the hotel opened like last week or whatever and i was sort of on the fast like i don't really know how an addition fits in like como you know what i mean um but the room was sick and the pool was super nice and it was like you know it's the whole thing it's just like it's pretty i actually was because when we say at villa deste it's like grounds you know what i mean it's like grand and there's all these gardens and shit which is really nice but this is like in the city so it's kind i don't know it's like you you're looking at the at the lake and you cross the street to go to the pool you know what i'm saying and it's it's floating in the lake i don't know it was nice i had it we had a good time okay i know exactly what you're talking about when i was in combo it was the same kind of vibe and it's you're like i'm gonna walk down across the street to like the beach area yeah you can go to like a restaurant or go to get a coffee it's like nor it's like normal where some of those other places you're like fucking behind a gate and you need a car to go do anything which i both have merit obviously for different reasons you know i love the addition family i'm not a big lake como fan personally but i'm sure it's enjoyable and dude for three for three days it's amazing if you're in milan and it's for two days or three days it's pretty great and the weather was it was prime time it was like 70 degrees sunny and it was uh it was a pretty funny crew too like jürgen was there with the fucking pink shorts and the blazer for the big party which i was i was like it's not that warm big dog did you build with jurg oh yeah we built we built with everybody it was a fun it was a it was small it was like 30 people so it was a pretty good like john paulson was there jürgen was there julia hobbs was there who else was there um i made a new friend osmond was there um but yeah it was a fun it was it was a good crew it was a good small but i just um i you know when people are like let's take the boat you know let's get on a boat i'm always like do we do we i mean what are we what are we gonna do you know and then i and then i re alex really wanted to go on the boat i'm like we'll go on the boat everybody you know it was whatever it was fine we're on the boat and it was like you know it's 45 minutes and i was like you know what this was good 45 minutes on the boat because the the lake was too cold to swim in it's like freezing yeah so it's like you can't stop and jump in and get back i've done that same boat ride except we had to pay for it so i mean no i have two no i have no same same i know same that's what i'm saying it's much better and our driver was hot which several people on the boat were happy about um but it was a you mean your captain our cat yeah i mean captain is a strong word for what he's i don't know what about a skip down i didn't look at his credentials um i didn't look at his credentials but uh but yeah he seemed he seemed qualified enough you know what i mean these guys are these guys are just doing their thing capitano yeah but i'm i'm happy to be back i was fucking i was gone for like two weeks i went from virginia to la to milan to como which is a twisted little itinerary that's you and pharrell the only people on that same run yeah dead ass where's my speedy bitch i'm on the pharrell flight come on now oh like pharrell the pharrell tsa has mishandled my carrot bag and i'm filing a claim right now here we go again these fucking guys uh yeah but it was um i i just the weather i'm just new york winter has been so bad and i feel like i tomorrow's gonna be nice and the rest of the week it's bad yeah i just feel like i was on a good run virginia was beautiful la was beautiful you know i just had a really had i had a good run so i'm upset but here we are you know we'll survive run done now bitch you got to hang out on your dumb house that was recently featured on how to spend it the financial times best and first and best column every week your favorite as well how did it feel to be featured in your favorite publication i mean i really do think that's the best so i was pretty happy i'm i'm very happy of course and i mean i just think that like it's so i forget the newspapers are so thorough you know what i mean like there was like a i talked to charlie the guy who wrote it who i know a little bit you know talked to him for probably an hour and a half like a month and a half ago you know what i mean and then the fact checking was multiple emails where it was really funny because joe like included it in her letter or her letter from the editor and they were like so would you describe would you say that you live in a concrete box with not many furnishings i was like well i don't i don't know if that's necessarily a fact.

1:03:51Who the fuck said that? I was like, I don't think that's super accurate. We do have a full you know, it is concrete floors you know what I mean? But it was that part was really funny. It was like multiple emails like about also like funny, like how would you describe like they wanted me to really get into the nitty gritty of what Joe Budden talked about because I mentioned that was the podcast I listened to and I was like guys I can't. I don't even know how your readers are already going to think I'm a dumbass so I don't know how they're going to even whatever I say about Joe Budden is going to go right now.

1:04:20Jason Stewart:I love the sweet irony of you finally being featured in the Financial Times and they want to ask you about the Joe Budden podcast. Well, it's my fault. I'm the one who said it. And they were like, we need more detail. And I'm like, well, guys, I don't really know if you want more detail. Honestly, I can't even, I don't know where to start. Sometimes more detail is bad. Old school music is always a vibe. That's what you need to know in Financial Times. It's so funny you said that because the reason that's the name of the episode is because he dm'd some like hot chick back because she had a song in her and his girlfriend got mad at him that is okay so if you see a baddie posting posting a song from the 70s you know the temptations or you know that's literally smoky robinson and then you reply hey old school music is always a vibe that's literally what happened that's literally what happened it's so fucking funny it just killed me because it does sound like a fake it just sounds like a sentence you would say to make fun of someone it really it really sounds like something you would say as a joke in his mind he's like guaranteed panty dropper from this he's either gonna reply with her phone number hotel room number or nudes i don't know which one or all three probably i don't know i believe that he did conclude with her leaving him on red which which made me feel good actually that it didn't that it did not work the freedom that he flows through life making millions of dollars a year talking about how his wife gets mad at him for trying to fuck other girls on instagram and that's what you that's how you pay your mortgage i mean i don't think i don't think he that's the thing i don't think he's even really trying to he just can't help himself you know i think he just can't he's just he's just he's just trying to talk you know i'm saying he wants to make friends that probably enables his his um philandering even more so i black men don't cheat though so that's that that's something i that's something i've learned and this this cheating bought that hermes but you know this cheating keeping the light bill on you know you want me to stop cheating i'll have nothing to talk about i don't show them we have to move move back to the one bedroom we got we're gonna move back yeah he's i mean he's been building a 10 million dollar house for five years so she they might still be in the one bedroom for all i know um all right how long gone howlonggone.com is the website uh we are back next week with some more podcasts uh thank you for joining me today, Jason.

1:06:41And pray for, pray for, you know, the white house and everybody in Washington. You know what I'm saying? I hope you guys,

1:06:46Jason Stewart:Fetterman, I hope you got your little plate. Fetterman, I hope you got your plate. I know you were wearing shorts. I didn't think I couldn't see your legs in the picture, but I'm just going to assume you kept it a hundred, even when you're in Washington. Thank you guys. My good hoodie to that one. Good hoodie. Thank you guys for listening. We really appreciate it. And we will talk to you next week. Au revoir. Get a plastic bag. Go ahead and pick up a lot of cash. Go ahead and pick up all the cash You danced all night, girl, you deserve it Get a plastic bag Go ahead and pick up all the cash Go ahead and pick up all the cash You danced all night, girl, you deserve it