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30:30Yeah, I think so too. I think it's fun. Well, that sounds, so did you go out after the wedding or were you done at the wedding? You went back to the wedding?

30:36Jason Stewart:No. Okay. I was going to go to Public Record, friend of the show, Louise Chen, from Chen TS, was DJing there with this girl Moxie. One of the greats. One of the greats. But I was just, you know, I was beat, man. Just fucking beat. Just, you know, standing in the same place for a lot of hours and drinking martinis. It'll tick it out of you. So I just went back to the crib, passed out, didn't even have any, didn't even have a 3 a.m. Bodega sandwich. Kind of proud of myself. That's, that is, I'm proud of you too. That's like, I mean, three's late, but sometimes you got to do it, bro. Sometimes if you, cause I didn't really have dinner.

31:15Jason Stewart:There was some, there's some chicken breasts I ate at the wedding. It was delish, but you know, I didn't want to fill up on the platter before I'm about to bust it down. But I woke up and I ordered my juice vitality delivery. love and the juice vitality do you order from there i don't even know what that is just some shit i've seen on caviar but they got they got everything you need they got all the smoothies the the fresh juices the cold brews where is it where where is it located like do you know where it is located the lobby of my hotel i don't fucking know a man bring it to me on the bike i have no idea but it can't be that far for me you know it's yeah of course you should be in the delivery zone on caviar but actually though that's the fucked up thing about all this is that the it's a little bit like they'll deliver anything anywhere now the rules are all really it's not like it used to be so it's kind of like this is what it's going to be if somebody wants to take like an uber driver like if you want this ride you can get it if you want yeah if you want to if you want to pay for it and you want to wait like okay good good for you we're down you want to pay 470 dollars to bring this cats is deli to you know somewhere in delaware somebody will be like i'll do that that's that's like yeah actually no i saw that there's this sorry for interrupting There's like a TaskRabbit style app that I saw an ad for, an advert for in London.

32:29Jason Stewart:And it was basically, it's kind of like a TaskRabbit, but it's like a bulletin board thing where you post a job and how much you're willing to pay. Yeah. And then, you know, people who are sort of on the brink of suicide are able to accept that offer. And then the example that they were using was somebody was offering 20 quid to come pick up the dog shit in my backyard and mow the grass.

32:58Jason Stewart:So I'm wondering, these are people who are like... Don't let me near that. Do not let me near that. Wow, that's crazy. Because these are people, which is so cool. And it has a little gambling economy energy to it. Yeah, definitely. definitely i mean i'll do it for 23 and you're like 21 50 yeah that's what i can do you know like are we're gonna like wage you know negotiate over 75 cents for you to come over to my and then also if any of these tasks involving are involving like a strange person entering your your home and property you know these are people on the brink of death yeah someone's gonna be like yeah 20 bucks to you know clean up a backyard full of dog shit and mow the lawn like oh i i wouldn't i don't do dogged stuff but i would i would mow a lawn for 20 all day mowing a lawn for mowing a lawn for 20 is just yeah that's like pretty standard stuff i mean depending obviously a london lawn is not going to be depending on you know what neighborhood it's not going to be unless it's the cricket it's not going to be sprawling i would i would i would assume you know i i was um i thought it wasn't at plum sykes's house because at the met at the met we were having dinner before the gq party and um my friend sam um was like yeah actually i bet on polymarket that frank ocean wouldn't be at the Met because I knew for a fact he wouldn't be there and I won like a not not crazy but like enough money to be like sick that was easy yeah I think about that stuff sometimes where there's information that I know a little bit like that and I always wonder like what like when you fully do know confirm that something's not going to happen or you know like we do know that we're about to bomb a country tomorrow and you know someone mysteriously bets 900 million dollars that it's going to happen you know if i have that locked information i know that frank ocean's not even in the country what's stopping you from betting your life savings you know what i mean i mean nothing really nothing but then how come nobody ever does it i think everyone has like in your mind you know without thinking about what's the dollar amount that you would put on it 1900 is what i thought of yeah like a thousand bucks i mean it's it's also it's just silly but Why not$10 ,000?

35:03Yeah, you're right. You're right. I mean, I know. I'm never going to do this. This is something that I'm absolutely not going to do.

35:09Jason Stewart:I guess it's because that 1 % chance in the back of your mind that if you lost$10 ,000 on some bullshit like this, you might jump off of a fucking - Yeah, yeah. You're going to be mad. Your chick going to be mad. Everybody going to be mad at your ass. I'm jumping off the Golden Gate. It was his fucking shoe-in. I didn't know he caught a flight. What do you want me to do? I wanted to talk about Phoebe Bridgers because she's back and I was thinking she's doing these Yonder Case King My Yonder Case King Phoebe is there's a new album and unfortunately for me it seems to be space themed because she's doing these pop-up shows in Roswell, New Mexico she did Roswell, New Mexico and Lubbock, Texas which are both like they both have famed alien stories attached to them um and these are small towns and i was thinking take me to your dealer i was thinking yesterday i was like this is actually imagine if you're trying to get a fucking cortado and rosmel new mexico you know what i mean if phoebe bridges is in town there ain't no way there ain't nobody to serve you shuts down there ain't nobody to serve you anybody anybody like you i mean dude it's bad yeah the the milk options are not gonna make you happy there's no service workers left in fucking lubbock texas if phoebe bridgers is playing for 300 um but i i'm hearing so she didn't let she didn't let you bring in cameras obviously it was a yonder pouch you know comedy show style thing but then there was also a you can't bring pen and paper which i thought was so sick to say no pen and paper because you know her fans are definitely moleskin ass number two pencil ass fans who would write down her lyrics and then you know tell us about bo burnham on reddit for the next three months before the album comes out which i i don't like that i don't i think that if you care so much to bring in a paper and pencil to write down these lyrics she should let you because that's that's a it's an analog i think it's funny dedication i think it's all i think it's all funny because her fans are so cucked she could literally be like wear one shoe and shave your head and they'd be like all right whatever is whatever you say mother will be there like it doesn't charge you a thousand dollars shave your head get a tattoo pierce your nipple all right no problem i'm in yeah the only way men can be in attendance is you have to show proof of your vasectomy kind of like the when you get that's how you get a free raising canes meal on mother's day for the fellas but because i was thinking like what's worse you know not being allowed to bring in a piece of paper and you know journal your thoughts and maybe some lyrics that stuck with you at the emo show which seems like a national pastime for indie musicians i think that should be not only allowed but celebrated what's what's worse or more cucked that or you know showing up front row and have you know setting up your your uno card game and your knitting thing on the on the front of the rail and then And as soon as the show begins, you are filming the entire thing with yourself in it.

38:14Jason Stewart:You're not enjoying the show. You're not listening to the music. You're only there to make it about you. What's worse, that or just sitting in the back with a piece of paper, diligently scribbling down lyrics about Bo Burnham's dick? How about this? I'll let you bring in paper and watercolors if you would like to paint the scene. but I'm not going to let you write anything down. I think that's a good compromise. Obviously, that's choosing one creative medium over the other which I hate to do and I'm sure Phoebe hates it as well but then today, these black and white photos came out of her in the lab with Maddie and Antonoff.

38:52Some friends and some enemies. Also, Bo Burnham in the lab too.

38:55Jason Stewart:Oh, you know he's cooking. Famously a musician. Yeah, he's the A-Rab music of McNally Jackson. Ha, ha, ha, ha. But I'm saying, people are saying that the album is very, you know, she's playing harmonica. It's very folky. I did hear some of the Brandon Flowers that I was talking about, his solo album. And it is also leaning country-ish. And I'm just saying that it's Chris season, baby. I'm eating. All these motherfuckers. We got Rostam with the pedal steel. We got Phoebe with the harmonica. We got Brandon Flowers with the full Merle Haggard 20. Like, this is Chris season. We're back, baby. Chris moves culture.

39:33Sure. I'm just saying to you, bro. This is it. The pedal steel, if you play pedal steel, Colin, my friend Colin that plays with Katie and Jay, if you're Sandy that plays with Jay, this is your time. You've got to get your social going. Let's get some deals going because you are going to be in demand. Everybody's going to want the pedal steel. It's one of our greatest instruments. I've said it before, and it seems like the music industry at large is really catching up, and it's going to catch on this year, Jason. And who knows? What if Drake, what if there's pedal steel on Iceman? We can't be sure that there's not We can't be sure that 40 didn't call in Some Nashville heavy hitters We don't know We have a week left I saw Morby play this surprise show You already know what's going on You already know He's got saxophone

40:19Jason Stewart:40 was sending the album in for mastering They finally finished it And then they scrapped it all And got Big Thief in the studio They're going to restructure most of the second act You know it was good not great So we sent Drake down to Durham. He's going to sit with Brad for a little while, kind of figure out what to do. There might be a His Golden Messenger feature. We don't know yet. I would love to see 40 and Brad going blunt for blunt. Dude, honestly. That's your versus. That's my versus. No, honestly. I just was like, well. Blunt after blunt. We'll do one in Durham, one in Toronto. One on the bridal path, one in Durham, bar for bar.

40:58See who wins. I just think it's a good sign overall for me. It feels good right now.

41:05Jason Stewart:So is this a recession D indicator? Great question. I mean, I wonder. Look, if Iceman comes out and it's a smash, it could put a hurtin' on the pedal steel return. People might not notice it as much if I'm not screaming it from the mountaintops. Pink mountaintops, if you will. but uh i don't know if um i don't i don't know what's what's in the water you know i mean i don't know what it is i think um well like i was saying before about how people really feel the need to make things about them and you know when when people are becoming musicians instrumentalists you know a big part of what they're doing or you know even a stand-up comedian or whatever so much of what they're doing is is for social media audiences and i think those instruments the pedal steel the banjo blah blah blah that style of picking is sort of pick me behavior pardon the pun so you know nobody wants to just be a regular old musician like no one's gonna care about my drumming unless i'm doing the gnarliest drum solo ever or you know i'm not just gonna be a really good guitar player i'm gonna be like what if i played my bloody valentine but it sounded a little bit like that you know and it has to just be some pluck and shred and like look at me do my thing look how i made this thing about me we need more people you know everyone's saying like we need more plumbers and electricians we need more rhythm guitar players and drummers that just stay in the pocket and shut the fuck up stay in the pocket not no sleep token bullshit not no what if we did a drop d on this primus thing and this is how i agree you know play your part bro just play your part it ain't about you i don't care that your vocal range is seven octaves well talk to your boys at greta van fleet that video greta van fleet that video video came out of them and i was literally i i don't i knew that people hated them so i think i never really listened to it shocking stuff man

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45:53Quince.com slash howlong. huge but it's it's really is shocking it's really just like we want to be led zeppelin but it's bad so bad it's crazy so they look they look bad like i was like oh maybe they're hot not even that not even that great video though really making the rounds really making the rounds i i look i also i like the charlie song and at first i was like i'm not sure about this and you know what you switched me on it which is really interesting is i kept hearing it in people's instagram stories okay and i was like this this is really catchy and i really like it it got beaten into your head

46:33Jason Stewart:so are you saying that it it worked or it acted better or uh maybe the the pill was able to be swallowed when it was i think it's like the way like a vehicle for a video narration versus just the song i mean i guess it's just like the way people are like yo gotta listen to it in the car or I gotta hear it in the club. You know what I mean? I think that there is a world where you hear things almost ambiently on Instagram and you're like, oh wait, that's that new Charlie song and I actually like this a lot. I don't realize necessarily. The video is really good. I love that new audio clip that you made, Charlie.

47:08A minute 55 is giving audio clip. It's very short. Sure. But I like it and I think it's like, I like how polarizing it is too. I think it's funny that people just cannot, lose their fucking minds just lose their minds well and george is in the video you know what i mean which is nice to see george george on drums is where you know how god intended because she could have hired somebody but you know why buy the milk when you got the you get the cow for free

47:32Jason Stewart:you know what i mean yeah we've got rock at home babe and it's just george shredding on the fucking skis we've got rock at home no there's got to be somebody else we can hire no no we've got rock at Yeah, that's so, imagine being George, you're just waking up, you're making your little pour over for a spliff of the day, and she's like, babe, I'm making rock music, and he's like, what year is it? I've been doing that for like years, and now suddenly you, that's kind of my fucking thing. Here we go again. All right, fine. I'll be in the video. It's interesting to see when things like this happen, how people who just don't know, like just a random person who's just like, listen to this new song versus somebody like you and I or a or you know or a Coscarelli or whatever like people who pay close attention to music and culture and trends and blah blah blah and and the way different people react to it and you know people like us everyone's very like skittish and like you know what does it mean and what is the yeah you know what is this how is this shaping the culture and then other people are like that's the song where it goes like uh yeah yeah I mean I do think that every yeah I do think that we are like when i actually yesterday when i was getting ready for you know putting my playlist together carolyn was like oh can you like on one of your songs tonight can you like have it do like that charlie effect and i was like what do you mean like auto-tune and she's like no like have a song where it's like i'm like yeah sure if that's what you want that's what you want we could throw the filter on it i think um the the to me the irony is you know you never know if Charlie's being serious for trolling.

49:09Jason Stewart:Are you making fun of yourself? Are you making fun of the world? Are you, you know, is it earnest? Is it not? Or is it a wink? Is it not? And I like that the song, which is like the dance floor is dead. I'm making rock music. But ironically, that's the song. It's sort of like three sections of perfectly samplable chunks of sound that can easily be remixed into the dance floor filler song of the summer. Oh, don't worry. Which is so smart because I'm a rocker. I'm making a rock album. I'm going to do a rock tour. And now I have the next 18 months sorted out. And then everyone else is just going to go on Ableton and Fruity Loops and make amazing club remixes of all of these.

49:55Jason Stewart:You can get three different songs out of this. Yeah, yeah. Harrison's got his thinking cap on for sure. Harrison's going to shred this one. Harrison do that with you know Dizzy Rascal bonkers mashup with this one I would do it if I had the time Harry but I just don't okay you got a six hour flight this week bitch let's go like let's come on this is it this is it nothing I'd love to see more you got your little why don't you pull out your little don't you have one of those little when you see the real heads on the plane and they got the what's the shit they bring the plane the midi the little keyboard oh yeah the little that's really that's really what you're really trying to get pussy broke hoe behavior to me you're a real head when you have the little audio interface that just a little yeah oh yeah yeah like can't you just plug your headphones into the headphone jack like nah nah i gotta go xlr sorry that's just different it's also it's been bro our boy our boy jake shane's gotten getting body shots again fam and i can't body by jake body by jake i mean look he's he's posting shirtless selfies working out at the aloe gym he's working on his body and he i mean look casey musgraves i tried to get our how long gone they They were basically like, that's cute, but we emailed you about another client.

51:00We're not going to, you know, they try to play games. And I was like, look, I'm sorry. Casey Musgraves, we love her. Obviously, we're fans of hers here. The new album is pretty good. Jake Shane basically asked her about a lyric that forced her to explain time zones to him. And he is getting, I mean, this guy can't win, man. And now people are coming to defend him. They're like, well, that's not actually what he was doing. He was actually, it's like, dude, just, it's fine. He's just, he's bad at it, but it doesn't seem to be stopping him.

51:31Jason Stewart:He can win. And that's why he's not stopping is because. It doesn't matter. He's publicly humiliating himself, sort of, but his core audience and the reason why he makes, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars in brand endorsements every year is because the people that love him, pay attention to him and are converted by his content also also don't understand that lyric and also don't understand what the big deal is about why he doesn't have a concept of how time zones work i'm sort of fine they're also confused by that lyric well look time zones are confusing i mean let's get it let's get it clear i have to use a calendar i got to google and stuff yeah i guess i just don't understand like what people are like oh we you know we used to have charlie rose and diane sawyer now we got jake shane you know and it's like well i don't think that like i think that is true but i also don't know if some i don't know i i just don't think it's like there there are people doing the same thing that are better than him i mean like our we got our guy we got our man hh from song exploder coming on the pod this week we got you know talk easy with sam like we have um joe and and john on popcast like we have people interviewing these these musicians very intelligently much better than we do yeah There's people doing the work.

52:49Jason Stewart:It exists out there, and those people make money. It gets hits. Those clips do well. But also, you know, so she needs to go and talk to all those people about the process so all of her, you know, upwardly mobile, intelligent, thoughtful fans can enjoy that. And then, you know, you have to go tap in with Jake Shane for all of the fan base that you possess that happens to be dumb. And that's most of your fan base if you're a global pop star. I think most people's – that's exactly what I'm trying to say. I think most people's fan bases are dumb. So I don't know if the Diane Sawyer, Charlie Rose would work in the same way for everybody.

53:25Like, I think that works for certain people. I mean, like when Joe was doing Diary of a Song, like that shit was amazing. I love that. I still think about it all the time. And it was like, this is great. It's easy to digest. It's like, it shows that side of it. But if, yeah, you can't just do that. No one can just go do that.

53:40Jason Stewart:And it's not a reflection of your quality of music. Like Casey Musgraves. whatever you're doing if you're big enough you have dumb people listening to it because just that's how like do you think snail mail wants to do like a target only like vinyl thing where she filmed no but like hell no enough people buy your records from target to where it makes sense for you to do it because you're just leaving money on the table yeah it's it's just i i don't think that i think that jake i mean it's funny that this keeps happening to him of course dumb people money's still green dude greener i would say uh i i would say that it's funny it's funny that it keeps happening to him but i also think it's only working in his favor i think it's one of those classic things where it's like sure a bunch of people we know are like dunking on him on twitter and his views and and wallet only getting fatter of course um yeah well and one day kaya gerber will come to her senses and leave that man.

54:37Jason Stewart:Kaya, you don't need anyone to make you look skinnier than you already are. Yeah, when you're the baddest in the game, you don't got to sit with Jake Shane. I mean, it does make her feel taller. Goal weight achieved. I think it's pretty funny that Variety, like basically every time this happens, Variety really goes after him and people are like, all right, what's going on? Like why is Variety hanging Jake Shane out to dry every time he misspeaks? And it's all so funny. Yeah. But yeah, I really think I really think it's only helping him. And that way, I'm sort of like, if you could roll with the punches and just be yourself and it works, God bless.

55:09I can't. No hate here.

55:10Jason Stewart:Yeah. And maybe Jake Shane, he's going to take all that money that he made from all of this content, all the ad sales and rev from those clips going viral. And maybe he will invest in an SAT course or maybe some community college. You'll learn about how the time zones work, you know, the rotation of the earth and things like that. But I mean, when I first heard that song, you know, in Jake's defense, that lyric does kind of come out of nowhere. I did understand the meaning. Well, it's a clunky. It's a clunky. It's a clunky. It is clunky. But that's why it's, you know, it's it's that zit on the forehead.

55:49Jason Stewart:It's calling out. It's saying like, hey, look at me. Pay attention to me. so I could see why he might think that this is like a you know a metaphor or a euphemism for something else versus like you know the sun is going up in one part of the world and it's going down in another part of the world just because of how the world rotates and stuff but I hate to defend little Jake the Shepracon but you know what are you gonna do not Jake Shepracon

56:19oh that's gonna stick sorry sorry big dog sorry big bro you look i mean if you're if you're like

56:25Jason Stewart:that annoying of a person and you rise to celebrity fame and fortune you hang out with bad chicks make a lot of money do whatever you want fly private all that shit take your lumps i just happen with the gay homies see who's beating that's what i need to know i haven't heard any i haven't heard any of the gay homies on who's beating imagine him and sam smith in the same fucking snippy's chat don't don't don't do that do not take me not on mother's day jason don't take my mind there i'd love to see jake shane riding sam smith around like a minotaur in that little outfit dude do not riding him around the carlisle shane smith is shane smith shane has a part why am i saying shane what's sam sam smith and shane smith have you ever seen them both in the same room something to think about that's how long gone exclusive how long gone exclusive that's actually crazy that's actually really good do's and don'ts of dressing like uh an anal an anal devil dude that's really that's honestly i i've never thought about that um yeah i did watch uh noah khan on snl last night and i was sort of um it all is making more sense to me now jason they were good like it's like a real band who can play sure and you know how snl is famously like people suck especially if they're not real bands oh yeah but i i forget because he's obviously 10 years or more younger than us and i'm realizing now there's an entire generation of guys like this that were like raised on boni ver like that is their that is their goat like somber says that noah khan says that like it's it's very interesting that it's like i'm taking boni ver and making it like dashboard confessional with like vermont granola thrown in the mix and it and it really works and now i'm i'm starting to like get it more from a conceptual because to me noah khan sounds like dashboard confessional in overalls in barefoot but he thinks he thinks it sounds like cat stevens and boni ver do you know what i mean yes it's like one of those situations Yes.

58:29Jason Stewart:Interesting. Yeah. I mean, I guess if Bone, you know, when we were building with him, we went and saw Bob Dylan. And, you know, he's just saying, like, you know, basically, I'm just trying to sound like Bob Dylan. And it comes out like Bon Iver. And I'm sure Noah Cahan is just thinking, like, I'm just trying to sound like Cat Stevens and Bon Iver. But, you know, it ends up coming out differently, just based on your flora and fauna. know so it's it's just that nice little trickle down and i'm sure there are a lot of podcasts that are awful that are like yeah it's just we're just doing our hell and gone thing you know i just i i was like oh that's just that's what this is like that it's like this is more like this is more like dashboard professional than it is anything else to me it's like a guy with acoustic you know obviously it's the same you know i think of it as like probably started as acoustic now he's got a full band you know and it's this whole you know it's a much bigger thing But he was good, unfortunately.

59:23He was good, unfortunately.

59:23Jason Stewart:And this is sort of part of your little folk banjo, pedal steel. Exactly. You know? Yeah, he's the version I want to listen to the least, but at the same time, it slaps. A rising tide lifts all boats. Exactly. It's undeniably good for what it is. In terms of it just being hashtag music on its face. Yeah, like hits. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. You wrote about the Tony biopic. I haven't read that yet, though. Yeah. On the pulling weeds. I was basically just like. Could you distill that for me, please? No mistakes? I mean, we've talked about it before. I think his whole thing is aged really poorly. And I think that making a sort of sanitized Hollywood, it's about the part of his life that's most boring.

1:00:10I want to know about him doing heroin and committing suicide. I don't want to know about him learning to fucking dress a salad in in Provincetown with Antonio Banderas. Like that doesn't that's I mean, I get it. Like, I think that's like how he wants. I think that's probably how people want him to be remembered. You know what I mean? But I think the darkness of him is what made him actually interesting. And this seems like it sort of sort of ignores all of that.

1:00:34Jason Stewart:Taking a page of the Michael Jackson flick, huh? Yeah, I just don't know. I just don't know. But people are saying that Michael Jackson stopping before he did his sinister actions, they stopped right there, potentially setting up Michael 2. Yeah, I mean, I think we're going to get Tony 2. I mean, Michael 2 makes sense because he's Michael fucking Jackson. I think that Anthony Bourdain, I don't know if we need 2. What if they get Aja Argento to play herself? Now we're talking. I mean, now we're talking. I mean, maybe it'll be good. In the role of a lifetime, Weinstein's going to set it all up from Rikers.

1:01:07Just what he inspired is so funny. Just like the way that people, like he really did cause more harm than good, I would say, in the overall. As much as I like the TV show and the time and like the books, I think the books are still good. I think the books are his best.

1:01:24Jason Stewart:He was the Trojan horse. He was able to go in and destroy the culinary world from the inside out. But I just think that that vibe, it just feels so dated. Yeah. And the whole thing feels very millennial-soaked. It's giving a mustache tattoo on the finger vibes. Exactly. Giving Shannon Sossaman. Exactly. And maybe that's why they've stuck to this period, because that sort of avoids that for the most part. You know what I mean? Because it's whatever, the 80s, I would assume. And also, in order for a movie to sell and do well, the lead typically has to be an attractive person in their 20s. Otherwise, it's just financially not going to be approved.

1:02:05And Anthony Bourdain, for all of his ills, he did look cool. For a guy on TV, he looked about as good as you can look. He was giving Mark Bolin? Yeah. He looked cool. He had a full head of hair. He didn't dress stupid. You know what I mean? He's still skinny. I think that, but you're right. Having a Dominique Cessna, you have to, yeah. We don't want a 40-year-old guy. And Stavi's in it, which is cool. Yeah.

1:02:32Jason Stewart:It was funny. I was talking to my brother about that trailer, and he was like it's so funny because he grew up my brother's growing up working in restaurants he's like every single restaurant has that stavi guy in it yeah and the first two weeks it's really funny and then it instantly is like oh this is the worst fucking person we were joking around like it's all fun and games like this guy says funny stuff and calls people names and then two weeks later he like grabs a hostess's ass in the freezer or something like that and you gotta like call the Yeah, get rid of him. That feels very true in this case.

1:03:06Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'm sure it will do fairly well, you know what I mean, just because he's got so many. But I do feel like also it's, yeah, I don't know. He doesn't feel super, like, remembered the way other people do, if that makes sense. You know what I mean? It doesn't feel like every year on his birthday I see him. You know, it's not Dylan Reeder. I don't see a million pictures of him every year on his birthday or whatever. It doesn't seem, maybe it didn't, maybe I'm not the only one that thinks it didn't age well I guess is what I'm saying yeah I think

1:03:34Jason Stewart:it's because the the breadth of his work is a tv show that is kind of bad um you know and obviously kitchen confidential and his his his first book or two those will be infamously passed down but a lot of the content in there is sort of very dated like we don't need like when it came out it was like holy shit don't buy fish on a Monday from a restaurant because like oh my god like they're really peeling back like this is all old news now but you know the books are doing well but the show you go back and watch it and you know it unfortunately did not age well it's only interesting to see like which which seasons he was like actively battling you know suicidal thoughts and drug use versus yeah you know which ones where he became addicted to jujitsu and was fucking body t-shirt um but r.i.p to the god um lastly i was thinking about um a new emerging trend we were talking maybe a year a year or two ago about benson boone the the back flipping of it all about how i forgot about boone he's off cycle and you bring him up that's crazy go ahead yes yeah he's busy he's he's doing stuff but um and we were talking about how like it's no longer enough to just be a talented person who, you know, does a thing, you know, you, you host the show or you make music or you're an actor or whatever.

1:04:54Jason Stewart:You have to do these kinds of physical challenges. Now you have to do the dance when you're on, you know, the TV show, you walk down the hallway, the aisle, I forgot what show it is, but you know, you have to do these stunt things and you have to show your like weird skill instead of just like talking about what you're doing. And I've noticed that the women, the female pop stars, are now having to do their own kind of more subdued versions of these physical challenges, whereas Benson is very much like, I'm going to do a backflip, watch me, watch me, hey, Dad, watch me kind of thing. But we got friend of the show and co-host from the GQ red carpet with us, Quinn Blackwell.

1:05:35Jason Stewart:Oh, I saw this, bro. I've seen multiple photos of her doing, she goes on the red carpet and does a headstand. But she was doing that for the paparazzi outside of a party. Yeah, so one of them was on the red carpet at the Billie Eilish 3D tour film release party. And then another one appeared to be in the literal gutter in front of the Chateau Marmont. Yeah. The literal gutter where she does a headstand. So she's in Benson Boone's plate. It's like her version of doing a backflip. We got Olivia Rodrigo doing headstands on the beach. we got Dua Lipa every other video she's you know showing off her planking abilities and her Pilates shit everyone is going inverted the girlies are inverting for 2026 it's the new trend watch the space I'm not I'm not disagreeing with you on that and I think that the thing when a woman does a handstand upside down bitches stay winning when there's when there's inversion there's a chance that a titty pops out and I think that is what I feel like that's what they're hoping for a little slip oh no you caught me oh that's so crazy okay so win-win for all parties and you know to quote um dave chappelle come on titty but yeah come on titty come on titty it's it's the real it's you know in an ai world where we are altering our face in post-production we're altering our face with surgeries and injections we don't know what's real on the body and what's not you know you got lauren sanchez and kylie Jenners and all these people you look at the before and after these are two different people you can't trust it but when a bitch go upside down all the cards are on the table you get to see a core strength you can't really cheat that you can't get core strength in a pill or a needle and number two the way that body sits when gravity come at you upside down shit shit look different you know what I mean so that underarm turns into the upper arm you know what I mean under titty is now top gravity will come for all of us that's the one thing is that booty sitting because it's in those truies or is that booty sitting because you've been getting after it at dog pound yeah it's leg day at dog pound speaking of ass sitting in the truies I saw Zara Larson yesterday at the hotel and I saw the air pod air pod pop out of her pocket right in the same curb that Quinn Blackwell put her headstand on the classic air pod case lands slow motion on the asphalt dime square you know piss and shit everywhere it's the worst left ear pod goes flying 20 feet to the left right ear pod seven feet to the right case goes four feet over there and she went over and picked it up and put it back in her pocket at that point charges to the game right no she's a humble queen i like that i like that don't send your man to but she was she was keeping all that in the trueies i'm sure she was uh final i just saw a tweet earlier today that i wanted to read for you before we go ti wife look like a garlic knot i don't know i don't know if you've seen that before but i'm in atlanta i got ti on the brain i just thought that one was pretty funny i just thought that was pretty i guess there's a variety of uh pastry case items that she could be you know mistaken garlic knot is garlic knot is particularly cutting i would say in the in the scheme of yeah i mean if if you are just arguing with a person and he says your bitch built like a garlic knot, you have to fight them.

1:08:59It's really funny. All right, How Long Gone? Thank you for listening. We'll be back next week with some more podcasts and we'll talk to you guys soon.

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