944. - Brianna Capozzi

25:25Jason Stewart:Pay it forward. You know when you're in Tribeca, when you look around and all the businesses are closed and no one's walking on the sidewalk, even though you feel safe, it feels haunted and empty. It feels more dangerous than the worst neighborhood in Manhattan somehow. There's some great restaurants down here now. There's Nobu. There's Mr. Chow. There's all kinds of - Chow's closed. No, it didn't. That was a lie. Oh, period. We could have been at Nobu right now doing this. I completely agree. I think, you know, I've never eaten lunch. Actually, I have once. I've never eaten lunch at Nobu. Only one time.

25:57Brianna, what's your favorite Nobu of all time in the world? I've only been to the Malibu one.

26:03Jason Stewart:Okay, bitch. Go off. All right. Damn. All right. Shit. Who orders more, Bella or Gigi? I wouldn't know. It's for the table. Okay. The Malibu... No, we're sharing all of it, I swear. The Malibu location is special. I think that's... If you're going to go to one, that's probably the one to go to. We were just talking about spicy tuna ice cream cones in the intro. So what a mitzvah that here we are. What's a spicy tuna ice cream cone? The cone is spicy tuna or the ice cream on top? Great question. Places like Anobu, they'll do like little tacos or ice cream cones or little things like Their version of a spicy tuna, crispy rice thing.

26:41Jason Stewart:I think Nobu does the taco where they just make a little taco, put the spicy on there and some little crunchy nibblers. Oh, I thought you actually... Okay, I thought you meant it was a new type of ice cream because there's ice cream in every flavor. You can get any flavor ice cream in New York right now. Have you thought about making breast milk ice cream? A little collab, more concerns? Well, we're going to have to if my bones don't arrive soon. we're gonna do something one way it's coming out one way or another in the in my pump doesn't show up i'm running to morgan's turn is it morgan's turn you're like all right give me a cup something anything what do you got back there what do you got like this is a kitchen right you got vats we're gonna do a vanilla base or a chop how's how do you want to do it oh that's that's funny that you say this because like a big dream of mine has always been to start a Froyo company.

27:35Of course, now, it's the Froyo boom. It's the Fro-naissance. I was in the...

27:42Jason Stewart:But also, we're in the third or fourth wave of Froyo. Sorry for interrupting. Carry on. I know. We are. But we're in the wave I wanted to be a part of. And I was too busy doing other stuff. And I missed it, but I know I could have done it better. And I'm bummed. Okay, so what is your... Because I haven't been to these new jacks. No, I can't say. I can't say. Oh, you want to know my favorite one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. I can plug a few. Cultured. But I don't want to because now there's a line around the block. There's a line no matter what you say. Now I'm the problem. Okay, well, okay. So you were looking at this wave coming in.

28:19Jason Stewart:You said, this is my wave. I'm all ready to go. I got my stick waxed up. No, I've been before the wave. I've been wanting to do it for so long, but I just never got to it. But you've been busy with your work, your book, childbirth, et cetera, et cetera. you can't stop everything. I love you, but I've chosen Fro-Yo. You can't do that. Did you have a little bit? I don't want you to give me all your trade secrets. I mean, I have toppings. I've had toppings that they're not giving. So you're saying you have Brianna toppings that are from your brain that you have not seen at any other Fro-Yo place.

28:55They're not so revolutionary. I'm very concerned why no one's come up with them. It's pretty... I see. I understand. It's just like they're just not there.

29:04Jason Stewart:Okay. Okay. They're hiding in plain sight, and you're not inventing the wheel. You're just looking at it with fresh eyes. Yeah. Just curatorial. It's curatorial. Can you tell us one of these ingredients hiding in plain sight? Yeah. Like bee pollen, maybe? I love bee pollen on my throat. Well, your confidence really went from an 11 down to like a 4 when you said the first one. I really like bee pollen. I'm telling you, I'm telling you that the wave is already here. So in order for me to come up with one that they don't have. You got to get esoteric. You have to get a little experimental. They have chia seeds now, but I'm happy they do.

29:42Some of them, not all of them. Of course. Some of them don't have them and I'm confused. Why not? Okay. Well, let me ask you this. Do you have, I know you have an Italian heritage. So do you have any culinary skills that have been handed down? Do you have any, do you have any foothold in this? Do you have any reason that you think you'd be good at this? Yeah, why don't we do Italian yogurt instead of this Greek yogurt bullshit? Just stuff a couple of those tricolores on there. Oh, baby. What do you think? So what qualifies you? Just your love for yogurt? I mean, honestly, I'm so from an Italian and American family, Jersey Italian, but I don't even like tiramisu, and I don't really like the panna cotta game in New York City.

30:23Also slow. Nowhere has a good panna cotta, and maybe one doesn't exist. Have you had a good one in Italy? No, because I'm not ordering that and I don't like gelato. Damn. So you hate your people. That's fine. That's crazy because I feel like I see you wearing several Italian-style chains around your neck. I won't bother asking you

30:42Jason Stewart:about Asian ice cream flavors then. That's not even... No, I like them. Oh, you love the durian banana. I'm sure you do. I'm sure you do. Oh, yeah. I like a matcha, a toro. Matcha, honestly, Italians liking matcha feels disrespectful to your heritage. That actually feels crazy. Have you had a matcha tiramisu? An abortion, if you ask me. I think I might like it. Do you not like tiramisu because you choke on the powder? That's my issue. Every time I take a little powder up and not the good way, it goes down the wrong hole. You know what I mean? Oh, I hate that. It's like when you do the cinnamon challenge.

31:16Exactly. It goes down the wrong hole. I'm coughing. I'm sneezing. It doesn't work for me. I know that. I know that. Okay. Well, I haven't tried Mimi's. That's what I've been. that's the one closest to me that's very popping. Wow. You're saying no bueno.

31:28Jason Stewart:No, she's saying don't talk about Mimi's. No, no, I'm not a fan. Jason, this shit is blowing up, bro. It's like where the West Village girls go. And let them be there. Let them be there because we don't need the lines at the really good Froyo spots to be that long. Okay, well, what if I told you the really good Froyo spot is simply Pinkberry? Oh, my God, for sure. Okay, you agree. I just want to make sure you're on the right side of history. Top level of the lowbrow. I only want lowbrow. I don't like fussy desserts. I know. I have friends like that. Does highbrow fro-yo exist? Yeah, definitely.

32:08Definitely. Cultured. Mimi is not even on the chart for me, but then I like Go Greek. They just opened. Go Greek. My friends are going to laugh so hard that this is about fro-yo. That sounds like a Greek tourism company.

32:25Jason Stewart:Yeah, that sounds like a Greek yogurt go-gurt protein squirt that I do on my half marathon. Go Greek sounds like what you do after you had a little too many natural wines in Athens. You don't remember his name. I've never had an uncircumcised. I wanted to try susumi.

32:46Brianna, what is your order at one of these places and how much does it cost? because I'm unclear also on the pricing structure. Oh my God, it costs so much. That's what I thought. It costs so much.

32:54Jason Stewart:You do a lot of add-ons, don't you? And the add-ons are from the premium tier, aren't they, Brianna? I'll tell you my order from the other day, which was a little, it went off a little off course for my normal, but I got, which I never get, I got a little, because I was at Go Greek, so the quality's good. I got a little bit of strawberry, very tiny bit. And this is how I do it at Pinkberry too. I say, no, no, no, just a little bit. A pinch. A pinch of strawberry. And then I got tart, which is always the majority for me. Okay. You were talking about strawberry flavored froyo, not strawberry as a topping, just to be clear.

33:28Strawberry flavored froyo. Then I got a lot of tart. And then I got a tiny bit, Echo Greek, they have a honey that is like tart, but it's just a little bit of something. And I got a little bit of that. And then I put on top, I put strawberries, almonds, a little bit of mochi, some blueberries. I like fruit. I like walnuts. This is sounding too breakfast to me. There's nothing bad boy in here. You need to have...

33:54Jason Stewart:I got to say, your topping selection feels unfocused. Okay. No. Okay. My bad boy... I rarely go there, but sometimes I put some Oreos. Oreos? Okay. Now we're talking. Oreos are good for breast milk. I have learned on the forums. Bro, y 'all say anything. You'll believe anything you read on Reddit. Get out of that shit. What does that mean? It's good for breast milk. The moms are eating Oreos. Yeah. What do you mean? What do you mean? It make the breast milk better? What is it supposed to do? Moms are eating a lot of Oreos and drinking a lot of coconut water. And oatmeal. They're eating a lot of oatmeal.

34:29Jason Stewart:This sounds like when they told us that women, you know, you're supposed to eat pineapple because it makes, you know what I'm saying? It's like when I, because I eat all this pineapple so my nut tastes yummy. Yeah, this sounds like a Rick Ross song. So now your baby's like, mm, I love titty milk because it tastes like Oreo. And with a little bit of a coconut under note, which I'm really appreciating right now. Yeah, tell me what it's supposed to do. We're confused. We're confused. It's just, sometimes there's a supply issue. And we get your supply. Oh, okay, sure. Okay, so nothing gets the female reproductive system going more than the Oreo cookie.

35:08Oreo.

35:09Jason Stewart:Through decades of mankind. Since Adam and Eve first hit the scene. It's Valentine's Day. You're at the hotel in Jamaica. you get back to the room, there's just Oreos spread out all over the bed. We're producing tonight, baby. We're going rounds. I'm not talking about sex. I'm talking about ounces. I'm trying to get 32 tonight, baby. Have you picked up other strange habits that you want to share with us? What other weird shit are you doing? How's your hair? No, my hair, I have... You can't tell right now, but I have great hair. That's good. I have very long, thick hair, but the baby's pulling it.

35:43It's up now. Now it's up every day. I gave up everything for him Okay wow What's his name? Say his name Lucho Marie Lucho Marie? That's a problem I know your book is called Womanizer I didn't know you created one as well by giving him that name Oh Lucho

36:02Jason Stewart:He's dating Keith McNally's daughter I just read right now on Twitter

36:09Alright you gotta look Now some might say it's child abuse To raise a son in Ridgewood So you guys have to move before he knows where he is.

36:17Jason Stewart:Back to Jersey. Mama, where am I, mama? What is this place? Now, how much Italian do you speak? Are you fluent? No, zero. I know how to say, can I get a pass to the bathroom? None? Okay, so you speak Jersey Italian. Yeah, I got a few Jersey Italians. What are the main characteristics of Jersey Italians? What would the top three think? How could I pick one out of a lineup? Other than racism. Yeah, of course. If I'm looking at a lineup of Italians, besides wearing fake designer, what's going to give away the Jersey Italian? Maybe they're tan. They're tan. Okay, so you guys are perma-tan. Yeah. In high school, I was so tan.

37:00Actually, I was just in Jersey over the weekend, and I saw a girl, and she had her long, bleach blonde hair. And I was down the shore. and I was like I know this look she just left the tanning salon but she was walking through a parking lot that I'd never been to and I was like I know exactly how this girl looks I remember this feeling and I of course I walked 30 more steps and I was like boom tanning salon right there I knew she was coming from a tanning

37:29Jason Stewart:salon you could see the tanning waves coming off of her body still like the smelly guy on the peanuts what was the routine then if you if it not to not to say gym tan laundry but what was the kind of what was your beauty what was the look in high school then if tan was the the kind of oh my god if i showed you photos of me in high school like i'd show them to my friend like i'll be out sometimes and i'll show them to someone i met or someone i work with who only knows me like they cannot believe i'm bleach blonde okay i am so so so tan i'm like a tomato okay delicious jersey tomato and i have on gigantic beaded necklaces and were you a rate were you a jersey raver no no i was like mary kate and ashley oh i see okay mixed with paris mixed with paris hilton and nicole that's a nice that's a nice combo back then okay god's plan really i guess we can we can really gather what you look like exactly you painted a good picture but we can finish it if you tell us what type of guy you were trying to have sex with at this age yeah yeah you don't have to include race but you should i was dating i was dating the quarterback of the football team of the town next to me go off bitch damn you got you said he goes to another school but he's the quarterback so they said all right anyway he wasn't he was from the cool town we were a bit more like straight laced at my town okay is he in the nfl or is he addicted to oxy he's married to his best friend that we had then his best girlfriend she waited around into the basket for the rebound damn she was like she was Hakeem Olajuwon just standing there waiting.

39:05Oh, wow. She's very, I liked her a lot then and she's, they're cool. Great. That's great. What a great story. I like that. Okay. So you, I didn't, but I assume you've moved on from athletes. It doesn't really seem like your bag. Yeah, no. I mean, I'm an athlete actually. I literally hold the soccer ball at my kid's feet. Like he's three months old and he actually rolls it back. Me and my family can't believe it. We think he's like the next, I think he's the next soccer star, but he rolls the ball back over and over. It's incredible. Okay, so we're going messy mode in the crib. You're a soccer player.

39:40You by trade are a soccer player. I played soccer, basketball, and softball growing up. But I can really play any sport. And tennis now. Now I play tennis. Okay, you can really play any sport. Which one would you say was your best? Soccer. Soccer. What position? I was midfield. I don't like that position anymore. Too much running. okay sure sure sure so you were you were you were an athlete slash like hot chick in high school was the vibe you were going for sure yeah i mean i i i'm like in my head i'm like should i be modest or should i be honest we're gonna suck it out of you either way okay what kind of who are you

40:18Jason Stewart:listening to back then was it a blink 182 or was it the fugees no i was listening i remember i was obsessed with lit my almost enemy i was i mean britney britney of course who else did the shins the shins the white stripes my my screen name was the white shins that sounds like a that sounds like a cool soccer joke as well but i gotta say lit britney spears and the shins is a twisted trio and it's very similar to the topping the topping story for your for your yeah i'm really don't make a look of sense yeah you're giving us a real understanding of that inner psyche i will say how many times have you done lit karaoke that's not my go-to karaoke what what is um all right jason let's get into this one we got car gurus our new homies over here how long gone and i'm sick and tired of car shopping jason and and i know you are too i need a better experience and thanks to car gurus discover a new search feature where you can look for vehicles based on the way you think using your own damn words no more being boxed in by those pesky pre-made filters or you want great gas mileage for road trips or extra trunk space for your golf clubs simply type it in and car gurus discover will give you real shoppable listings that match it's the smarter way to find a car that fits your twisted life yeah i mean i'll type it in hey i'm looking for a car that'll stop getting me beat up at the office or whatever you know sure i want to i want a car where my friends respect me or whatever maybe i play hockey and i need a little extra storage space in the honda fit whatever it could be and i think this is really cool and interesting because not everyone is just looking for a blue car that costs four thousand dollars we all have specific needs and wants and lifestyles and it's great that uh we've sort of broken out of your grandma's filtration systems i'm sick of that shit i need a brand new car gurus car guru system it's no wonder car gurus is the number one most visited car shopping site according to similar webs estimated traffic data buy or sell your next car today with car gurus at cargurus.com go to cargurus.com to make sure your big deal is the best deal that's c-a-r-g-u-r-u-s dot com cargurus.com this episode of how long gone is brought to you by a new podcast from the guardian stateside with kai and carter this is covering a lot of our bases jason it's a it's trying to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world and i know you particularly have quite a lot of questions a lot of questions but how often because we do this podcast three times a week and that's a sweet spot how many times do they do three times a week and i i have a feeling just based on the platform and these talking points that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do that's just a guess the guardian is not some billionaire owned platform they're not afraid to say what they want to say brother Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside.

43:18But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch it on YouTube. It's three times a week. And who couldn't use more news? You know, especially when it's not, you know, from here, let's say. Give it a listen. Give it a listen.

43:34Jason Stewart:Which Britney song are you doing every time? Do you have the range for it or no? Oh, maybe Lucky. Okay, yeah. That's a good one. I sing Lucky to my kid, even. Okay, this is, okay, wow. So, you seem, how did you get into this career then? Because none of this is really adding up to me, personally. It does, though. It really, really does, somehow. I'm not able to explain how, but it does. So, I was a big tomboy, and I was obsessed with clothes, even then. Even if I needed the best boys JNCO jeans, I had to have... Sure. I was always wondering what I was going to wear to school. Was your mom into clothes too?

44:18Oh my God, my mom is... She just sent me... I just posted on my Instagram. She just sent me and my sister a giant pair of platform shoes to see if she's coming tomorrow to wear them. And we're like, you're like 71. Are you going to fall? They're like six inches high. But is she into designer or is she just into clothes? No, she's not. She loves it. No. She wants a discount. She's finding the budget item, and she's finding the most fabulous item, and she doesn't go anywhere without her makeup on. Okay, old school. Well, your mom, I mean, I've seen pictures. She is bad, but she looks good. She looks incredible.

44:56Okay, so 71. I think so, hopefully. Is she life of the party vibes? Is that kind of what she's bringing to the table? um she is so much fun and like hysterical and loves to be passionate about like like she'll come to stay at our house now and like she's just like want to get into i don't even know she just is okay for example my last book sign she made this giant cake that she went and she found these tiny little dolls at some store they're they're like doll i don't they're like brass dolls vibe and she put them and she designed this entire cake that had me and my sister's face on it i'm making this other thing and i don't know but everyone's still talking about this cape so she's like that type of she's like sending sending me the toy the dolls for weeks being like i'm gonna do something with these i'm gonna do something with them i don't know what i'm gonna

45:49Jason Stewart:do and then she okay is this like because she wants to exercise her artistic side or does she want to make you know the book signing about her a little bit is she trying to steal a little spot No, no, she just did. No, no, not at all. No, no, not at all. She's like, not like she's would do anything for me and my sister. She's obsessed with us, really. I would love to see her strategy at the outlet mall. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's where she thrives. More at like secondhand shop. Oh, okay. Okay. All right. She's a picker? Yeah, she's a, for sure. For sure. I don't think my mom has ever been into any sort of secondhand shop.

46:26And not because she's, not because she's. My mom loves it. I think her idea of that is Marshalls or a TJ Maxx. Oh, my mom also loves to go there. Yeah, that makes sense. He's definitely a TJ Maxx girl. Cost plus world market. Do you search? Are you a digger like that yourself? I don't really have that gene the same way. I like to go. Now I'm more into going to a vintage shop. Not that's curated with all designer stuff, but with eclectic items. I like my favorite thing to find is an eclectic item that you wouldn't find anywhere but isn't necessarily a designer. But it's like still really deep.

47:03Jason Stewart:You want to have the one thing that nobody else in the world has. And then also you can put it in a photo shoot and it's a write off. I was just at my girlfriend's house and it's like I kept like looking trying things on. I'm trying things on because I have this whole, you know, these new boobs that I'm dealing with. But, um, because you, because you had a child, not because you had plastic surgery, just to be clear. Yeah. But don't worry. I might have to later.

47:29Jason Stewart:We'll monitor the space. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Keep track. Keep track. Um, and I'm trying all these things. I'm like, where did you get this? And she's like Prada. And I'm like, Oh, and then I'm like, where did you get this? She's like, maybe in Westwood store. I'm like, okay. I've never shopped at a store like that in my life. I'm thinking about these these coveted items I went to the store where they sell them at what the fuck are you talking about so there's a Prada store in Soho and if you go in there they will let you buy stuff if you have a credit I almost had to do this interview in the car in front of that Prada store do you want it now when something special like this your book is out do you buy yourself a little gift do you give yourself a little present um no honestly i went to my friends and i got a fabulous outfit the friend who shops at prada and i'm so excited because i was feeling really not the best but and then i've been like buying orthopedic shoes for the past three days because i can't have a foot problem from all the soccer playing so your dogs your dogs are barking permanently i might need this that's where i'm gonna have the surgery first and i might have them double up and do the boobs while i'm doing the butt great idea that that's a rare crossover that is a very rare crossover i like that you're gonna be in a fucking wheelchair for six months i want lip filler or anything no no just my feet just my feet so you so you've been buying orthopedic shoes like are we talking about like shoes that you need a prescription for are we talking about like we have a wider toe box style we're talking about dr shoal's sandals like what do we got a mephisto no i'm like like i went on the deep dark i went on the deep dark depths of like orthopedic flats orthopedic sandals i can't be in these sneakers all summer long that's not my vibe i'm like my mom in the six inch platform right so you need like a tabby insole with good arch support yeah i might have like norton's maroma or something what is that i don't know norton's maroma that sounds like a fucking that sounds either like a band or another band i was listening to in high school Well, it sounds like Tommy John surgery.

49:35You know where they named the surgery after the person who had the problem? Yeah, Norton had this.

49:39Jason Stewart:Okay, I found it. It's a painful condition that affects the ball of your foot, commonly the area between the third and fourth toes. It features burning pain, numbness, and tingling. Exactly. As if you're walking on stone. So what is your day-to-day footwear now? Listen, if there's a doctor listening who wants to cure my Norton's. But what if there's just a guy listening who wants to rub those dogs down after a long, hard day. Yeah, yeah. I was about to say. He'll pay you. He'll pay you. If he pays me enough to get the surgery, I'm down. Yeah, that's a good trade. What is your daily pain level, one to 10?

50:14It's not good. I can only wear sneakers. Okay. It's really bad. So you're saying like tonight you want to put on a pair of heels and you like just can't? Yeah, well, tomorrow, it's tomorrow and I will be wearing heels. Or maybe it's tonight depending when this comes out. Well, this comes out Friday so it'll be after. But regardless. So yesterday.

50:30Jason Stewart:male photographers don't have to deal with these problems of wearing an uncomfortable shoe to the opening am i right yeah that's true that's true well these guys roll up and they're fucking they don't look as good they're blunt stones or they're fucking hocus but also they're not allowed to take photos anymore so it's a good trade-off exactly exactly well what do you what does your shoot look then you got a like a fishing vest on like how tech how tech are we going how technical are we going when i'm shooting you said yeah how crazy are we going i mean i know you have several assistants and a lighting director and a digitech but you know what i mean set bag yeah what is the look i'm on set in whatever i found in my closet that morning sweatpants baggy jeans okay you don't you don't cut okay you dress i was just for the job you already have just on a big shoot in toronto and i had to pump the entire time and so when i pump it's like adding like four inches to my boobs and I was on set being like, there are people on this shoot that do not know that I'm pumping.

51:30And like, they just think these are...

51:33Jason Stewart:So they're like, she wanted me to tether, but I didn't know it meant this. So you were tethered in three places. You had to tell the client... On camera, left titty, right titty, all tethered. You had to tell the client to keep their eyes on the monitor. Oh my gosh. I was like really thinking that like maybe this was gonna be a pg version of the podcast my whole podcast is about boobs no this is this is actually interesting though so you're all right so you're saying you're on a shoot you obviously have to take these breaks i would assume that every three hours have you found though since this has happened that like often you're working with with women so they obviously understand what's going on they're happy to take a little break and yeah of course i mean as you I work with really great people.

52:20So even the men are actually gentlemen, shockingly. I hate to hear that. I hate to hear that. They're letting us down again. Letting me down again. No, everyone's been great about it. And actually, you start to realize, damn, so many people have kids actually in this industry. How soon did you start shooting? Well, I'm only three months, and I did my first job maybe three weeks ago. Oh, yeah, that's pretty soon. Yeah, and I went to Toronto. Oh, wow. It was like my first job back was a travel job. It's so cool that you shot the Drake album cover. It comes out tonight at midnight. That's great.

52:53Jason Stewart:That's really big. Was that the first time traveling internationally without your child? Yeah, without. It was very quick. No shade. No judgment. I feel like you were kind of putting me on the spot that I love my kids. I was leading you to the point where, you know, how did that feel? How difficult was that getting on a plane crossing international borders, even though it's just Toronto? know it was like so not no it was so far everyone's like oh my god how are you and i'm like i'm okay listen by the end of it i was like ready to get back to him but i don't know people are like oh my god you left him i'm like yeah i was shopping i was out you were at the four seasons yorkville in the bathtub being like he's fine little motherfucker's fine yeah bath every night it's not like you locked the kid in the tesla and dog mode and went out for three days like it's obviously with you know uh an adult who's taking care of this child yes maybe better than you would be but you get to have a beautiful night to yourself hotel yeah put the robe on put the office on have a little edible it was very nice it doesn't affect the titty milk you deserve you deserve it you earned it deserve it this is your this is your third book or have you done more than that yeah this is my third book okay and how long did this take i shot a little bit of new stuff for maybe a year and a half maybe a year but i'm saying you shot the new stuff because you felt like there were holes that you wanted to plug in well so the work is from like 2012 to now but yeah i was just excited like it was exciting to kind of hone in on this type of woman that is in the book and then make shoots that were just dedicated to that style and like vibe of a person and also I thought it was really exciting.

54:40I only shot people, besides one, I only shot people I hadn't shot before. So it was exciting to like Addison or I shot Jessica Miller. It was like exciting to reach out to people for just the book and also have the opportunity to not like do an entire 12 page story and just have to make one or two photos that are good. Because normally I have to make, you know, 12 to 20 pictures and it's a lot. It is a lot.

55:07Jason Stewart:with this oh the way talents act in these days as an athlete yourself how can you let us know how addison's core strength is in person oh my gosh unbelievable i don't know you i mean i think you guys looked at the book but there's one picture she's like upside down on the um the pummel horse yeah the pummel horse and she is unbelievably strong i was looking at that she looked she was in like a break dancing position but looked very comfortable and happy did you bring a movement coach to the shoot or did Addison do that all on her own no we were like we showed up to my friend's uh studio who is the set designer it was super low-key it was the day after we had done another shoot for Marc Jacobs and I was like should we shoot tomorrow and she just came through it was very very cool that is cool he's awesome we we love Addison here on how long gone yeah we went to the show we went to the show I saw all the movement oh I know I was gonna go to the show but I was very pregnant we're both racists yeah yeah we're both technically racists when it comes to addison okay i was wondering um in the in the intro of your book you mentioned the the perfect photo suspends the tension between glamour naivete and a little bit of sleaze what is the correct amount of sleaze for a photographer to use in 2026 um well it's different for men and women let's be honest yeah and i think my sleaze is not so on the nose in any sense and it's more just like i think it really comes you know bringing back how i ended up here i think it comes from jersey you know and being from there and being east coast it's just it's a grittier place and thicker skin from the tanning booth mostly but yeah exactly but i mean i feel like there's always a nod to that jersey girl in these pictures even but i feel like um what you're talking about before the girl super tan with the blonde hair you know that jersey girl wouldn't that that photo of Dua Lipa with the bleach blonde hair.

57:06Jason Stewart:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like how long gone podcast hosts really started paying attention to your work when you decided to make Dua Lipa blonde. So we just wanted to say thank you for that. It's funny. A lot of people don't even recognize her in that photo. They go, oh my God, that's Dua Lipa. I had to check the credits. It isn't easy to get a wig right. That's a big part of... Period. No, seriously. Who does your wigs? shout him out um well right now i've been working with lucas wilson a lot he didn't do that shoot but okay lucas wilson yeah i used to work with aki along uh who else a lot of creators in the wig space yeah i mean there's people who are great at them and that's who you need to get but we so we when we had that wig i was like i didn't know if it was gonna work you know it's like hard you commit to it it takes so long to put it on and then so you're saying you're saying the chance is always that Dua Lipa is like, I ain't doing this.

57:59It's on and it's... Or that you do it. Oh, I see. Either that she doesn't want to do it or you do it and you're like, oh God, it's not right. And then, you know, you don't want to be sitting with Dua Lipa or anybody at that level and be like, it's not good. We're going to take it off. They're going to be like, hell no. Like, I've been sitting here.

58:17Jason Stewart:So I know you've been here in the chair since 4 a.m., but you look bad with this wig on. It's not because of you because you're one of the hottest people alive. It's my instincts are bad. I actually made a bad choice. We'll break for lunch. What do you want from Kava? What do you want from Kava? It's going to be four hours. Just let me know. You got to make it work. You get the scissors out. You get the brush. And you're just like, it's amazing. It's so amazing. We're loving it. As you're wiping the tears from their face. Behind the V-flat, I'm like, Emma, Emma, we need to take the wig off. but I love, I love how that whole story turned out of Dua Lipa.

59:00She looks like so good with the wig would turn her into such a character. I loved it. I do feel like a wig can change someone's personality more, more quickly than clothes or like makeup can kind of.

59:13Jason Stewart:Definitely. Like it makes Anderson.Paak look awful. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That's a great example. Yeah. Okay. So you, you will have models or talent posing as other famous people like Britney Spears or Elvis Presley, for example, has there somebody like, is there another person like an Elvis or a Britney that you want to have somebody portray in a shoot, but that model or that person who's right for the job hasn't come around yet? That's a good question. I wish you gave me an advance. Like, how am I supposed to know the answer to that right now? I just thought of it on the way here i mean well i guess what i guess when you're when you when you're shooting somebody as elvis or as britney spears is that something that you just think of that day of or the week of or is that something where you're like i really want to dress somebody as somebody hailey wolins came up with the britney spears reference and that's our friend autumn and we love that we i wish we shot more of it because we you know we should have really do you know the reference Britney Spears is like she like tattooed herself with white like patterning all over I don't know that what is that from is it from an editorial I think that she just posted it on Instagram maybe you'd have to ask Haley she's the one that found it was just like you know Britney's always coming up with something that's who I want to shoot if she's around hit me out well you better hurry because she's going to die so you gotta hurry no it's not looking great i'm not happy to report that you might be you could be like a courtroom photographer but get some exactly how are you at sketching maybe you could just be in the courtroom we love her no of course we love britney we want nothing but the best for her but unfortunately things aren't moving in the right direction it feels like just in general um have you have you ever trade have you ever tried to make um a model look less good or sexy if the if the if the shoot requires such i definitely like to i wouldn't say in my mind it's less good or less sexy definitely not less good no just just like the idea that i want for this person like you look too hot for what i'm trying to achieve right now definitely definitely there's definitely people who i'm like you're too sexy like we need this isn't about that right now and i know you know a really good model a really good model is i have that problem all the time like i don't know how i'm supposed to just tone it down when the camera comes on i know i know i was saying i guess i'll do the impossible and try to look bad for an effort yeah yeah like i guess this is why i get paid the big bucks bring out the fucking duct tape i'll get to it no being too hot is for sure a thing yeah well i guess you can take somebody who's really hot and then just have them in a position that's maybe less traditionally sexy or like yeah but there's some some people don't want to be less hot you know that that does happen okay name yeah you're telling yeah you're telling me j-lo's not trying to have fun with it yeah i'm not jaylo wants to be hot jaylo it's hard to make not hot but like pamela anderson you have the the photo of her at the the grand cayman islands sex marble ottoman shower thing that's a great picture beautiful voluptuous woman but but she's laying flat you know flat as a board on there and i think that kind of juxtaposition yeah that's true that's like a bit different than i mean the opposite of doggy style making her less hot is really really an impossible task i mean pamela anderson's aging story is one of the best we've ever seen in hollywood she's just so pretty it's unbelievable too like in real life you're just like i know exactly why you're a star yeah i agree i agree i just think that the whole the whole like no makeup thing actually really it like that only works for some people and that works for her no she looks so good and i don't know if you read the back but i talked about how literally like every part of her body was like her finger everything i was like oh my god you were your toe is perfectly posed your foot everything she was really really flawless diva she knows how to move her legs so the muscles look good on the thigh she's been doing it a long time i mean a long time but i feel like you're i feel like at least most of the stuff we see you're dealing with people that sort of know what they're doing or they think they know what they're doing yeah no they do and you know some people want more direction than others i mean i of course like when they want to i like i'm trying to get everyone into a good pose i'm i'm very into getting into the pose myself it was hard during pregnancy they were like do it i was like i can't do anything i understand you said just hold on i'll show you and they're like wait i can't show you hailey would be like like how should we do it i was like i don't know figure it out because i can't move she's like hold on i thought you were the boss somebody always tells me what to do this isn't going to work i guess that's interesting so you typically when you are not you know eight months pregnant and not able to contort your body in every position yeah normally you just get on oh for sure and you put your body in the position of how you want them to be yeah it's the easiest way to do it i'm five i'm five too so they're usually like that doesn't work like that for us i'm like get into this box no no no the shipping container just get in there yeah just just climb in exactly there's a point where you have to show them yourself because words ain't doing the trick exactly exactly or words could do the trick but you're you're not a professional writer you're a professional image maker exactly i'm really not a professional writer but i'm just figuring it out as a you know i'm very in my body so it's like not it's my way of figuring it out exactly what i want it to look like it's not that i have such a vision always right before but the same thing with the clothes like a lot of times the people i work with like i work with a lot of stylists who we end up dressing ourselves like before the shoot the day before we get in all the looks we get in all the poses we take photos we have so many amazing photos on our phone of us both well that's the fucking that's the fucking book why are you wasting our time with this shit i know oh carol g okay great I want to see you in the Vivian Westwood.

1:05:14I know. I know. Well, I probably have it. That's actually really funny. So you're saying you guys get together and basically have fun with it to figure out what it's going to be. Oh, my God. Yeah. I have full PDFs of me in every outfit and every prop that Miley wore in every position she's in. That's really funny. That's really funny.

1:05:31Jason Stewart:Even the magnifying glass thingy over the titties? Yeah. Even that. If you're not going to get in the weeds, who will? It was foreshadowing for the phase I'm in, you know? Those were some... Who made that weird thing she wore in that? The magnifying or the... No, like the top that's like white. Oh, that. That's something else. He's talking about the green fuzzy... I know we're talking about two different things. I'm talking about the white thing. I don't know who made the white romper. Yeah, but it's like a white romper with pointy titties. Oh, no, but we put the pointy titties in there. Those are silicone.

1:06:05But you're saying that was... You did that... That was not part of the garment is what I'm saying. No, no, no. I thought it... We did that. I apologize. I thought that might have been part of the garment. No, no. We brought those with us. Just like a man to assume, huh? That is my bad. Assume that we didn't make the titties pointy. I don't speak on women's bodies like that. I apologize. Why?

1:06:23Jason Stewart:Because I can't do that? I apologize. I don't know what silicone is capable of, honestly, in 2025. I really like the Gwyneth photo where she's holding that big old crescent wrench. It's nice and heavy. We brought her up to Harlem to a test kitchen, actually. And I had her with the wrench. I had her with like, I don't know, what is the big jigsaw blade, a big circle blade. How long did you have? How long did you have? We had her with like a giant mixer that's like the size of her. How long did you have GP? That's big Hobart. Oh, we had her for quite, you mean hours wise? We actually had her for a decent amount of time.

1:06:56I can't remember, but it was like close to a full day. You had time. Yeah, yeah, definitely. We didn't have like two hours or something. We had like, I can't remember exactly. Yeah, I feel like you're not really the two hour type. It seems like you're really, uh, you need as much time as you can have. If you, if up to you, I definitely have done it 20, 20 minutes. Sure. But I think that I feel like that it looks like this stuff is kind of like labored over in a good way. Like it feels like it's really thought out. So you don't want to rush it once you're there. Yeah, definitely. And I definitely don't like to not get something.

1:07:28I'm caught. I'm constantly begging a celebrity to stay. When Barack, when Barack says you got 20 minutes, you're just like, all right, fuck it. We got 20 minutes. What am I supposed to do?

1:07:38Jason Stewart:take the shirt off let's get it over with i i noticed that you you use your family and your family's homes as locations for shoots a good amount does uh does your uncle jay brag to his friends that like a supermodel you know sat on this couch where i watched the fucking hockey game or whatever like is it are you is your family like excited and stoked about it or are they just like yeah they're they're they're just excited to have us over for the day because they They like commotion, you know? They're like, oh, I'm going to get the rotisserie chicken for you guys for lunch, and what do you want to drink?

1:08:12Jason Stewart:Commotion is the perfect word for it. No, that's so Jersey. You know, like commotion? What's all this commotion? What is all this commotion? That's like, I grew up. I don't know. Nobody tells me this. No, I mean, my grandmas have both passed away, but I've shot so many times in both of their houses. I've shot both of them. And they're sort of just like, this is what she does. Isn't it so fun? They don't ask any questions. No, they're just so, like, I can't, I don't know, maybe everyone's family's like this, but they're so all about us. They're just me and my sister and the kids are like. Yeah, I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say that's everybody's experience necessarily.

1:08:52But yeah, I know what you mean. Like, they're just happy to have you around. They don't care what you're doing. Yeah, and they're just like so excited to be helping me do something I really want to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:09:01Jason Stewart:Okay, so if that was already existing your whole life, your family's been helping you supportive of your freaky ass lifestyle and career choices, all that stuff, they just want to be a part of it. How much did that change as soon as you had a child? well so i already had a niece and a nephew and so i feel like it's not as extreme because we already went through that with my sister but oh my god the family was so much better immediately no more fighting it was like oh you guys don't care about us anymore you only care about these kids thank god we've we've diverted our attention away from you yeah people who don't have that yet when i talk to them i tell them i'm like oh my god you're gonna have a kid you're gonna see your whole family dynamics going to get so much better i find because you because now you finally have something to do you look at a cute little kid run around play soccer once my sister once my sister my sister had twins i was no longer the beyonce of the family i was i was the reigning king for decades and then i was replaced overnight literally overnight but that's that's god that's how it should be that's how it should be that that is not about us anymore that's the cycle of life and I'm okay with that.

1:10:09Jason Stewart:Chris, you're cute, but you're no three-year-old version of you cute anymore. Definitely not. No, definitely not. Definitely not. All right, Brianna, thank you. Thank you. For joining us on How Long Gone. We appreciate it. Thanks so much for having me. Sorry, I'm going to Arizona. I'm going to miss the party, but I'm there in spirit. Oh, listen, you're not coming? Well, I got the book. Is Tim there now? Is Tim there now? I don't know if he came in, but we were saying he needs a cameo. I know. That's what I was asking. Can I see if he's here? Just to say hi. You know what I mean? Also, can you let our listeners know what the shoe story is going to be?

1:10:48Oh, I'm wearing a Manolo with two very thin straps that's really high and they're clear. So it looks like I don't have a shoe on. So you could be busting out of those. There he is. What's up, bro? I gotta elongate the legs. What's up? How are you? Here's Tim. What's up, Chris? You good? Tim's not going to say you've been a nightmare to deal with, but we'll talk off. We'll talk off. No, I've been an angel. We'll talk off. All right, thank you. Good to see you guys. Congratulations. Thank you, guys. We'll see you soon. All right, bye. Later.

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