949. - Kevin Morby

25:59Jason Stewart:I wish I got that dare. That's the type of shit I would do unprovoked. How did the, yeah. How did the, how did the, how did the, how did the attendant handle it? Yeah. This is how Jason speaks to everyone. How did the attendant handle it? Zero, zero, zero reaction. Well, look, the, the overnight attendant at the Fairfield Inn and Suites in Gowanus probably isn't, you know, working on their comedy career. You know what I'm saying? He just smoked his seventh Percocet for that hour and he's kind of on autopilot mode. He's also watching American Dad on his phone. He had the vibe of like he had just killed the actual attendant in the back and was like somehow figured out the computer.

26:34Because Liam also needed a new key, so he worked it into that whole spiel. And so the guy, he was wearing gloves. He had like rubber gloves on the whole time. I was like, I think this guy just killed someone in the back and he's pretending to work here. He's melting the body down, yeah. I recently had an experience at a hotel where the key card stopped working every single day for eight days. That happened to me. and I kept going down and being and they're like are you keeping it close to your phone I'm like no guys they tried to blame it

27:00Jason Stewart:on the demagnetization I've stayed at a fucking hotel before I know not to put my key next to my phone this is happening every day there has to be a solution to this there was never any no one ever gave me the information I was looking for this happened to me the same exact thing happened to me last year but it was at my friend's hotel he owns it so I don't want to shout him out because it's a great hotel but it happened to me every day and I was getting locked out of the pool and shit like there was one day where I went to the pool and it was locked out of my room like in a towel and i had to go to the front desk and i was like please no bro no no that's the worst that's the worst how was uh how was because you guys played in the at pappy and harriet's last night two nights ago super super fun really fun night why do people can you explain why people like it there so much is it a cosmic vibe that i'm not able to tap into a little wide open out there brother you wouldn't get it it's the little wide open for sure you're playing beneath the moon brother um it's great man it's awesome you know i will say like we played and it was amazing and then inside they have a cool indoor stage which i used to play back in the day and there was this amazing jazz band in there so then like we hung out i don't know just one of those things it's like it reminds me of austin you know what i like about austin where it's just like kind of just full throttle all music all the time and so like we played this great show and then got to go in and like watch a sick jazz band and i don't know it's fun how many people come see you out there are they all from la you know i actually asked from stage i was like who's from San Diego who's from San Francisco who's and it was kind of a kind of a good thing there's there's there's around a thousand people there man it was an awesome show wow that does seem like a lot so you played the outdoor area which is a bigger area and then indoors you'll have you know local bands and people will come sit in and play while you're watching the jazz band does does Kevin Morby have his own section where it's like you know Prince is going to come down and to Soho House and watch somebody kind of you have a little roped off area what kind of bottles do you get no I was I was interacting with the fans i was interacting with um the people who had just seen my show i think we're having a similar experience like oh now this other thing is happening and so then i was just in there amongst amongst the people man i was in a hoodie does it count does did you get rock is it count as getting recognized when it's at the at the actual venue that you just played you can get recognized yeah it is i think it's recognized with an asterisk yeah okay we have to we have to put a little getting recognized like crazy when i went to pappy and harry it's just like wow what was happening there oh it was my show it was a kevin morby concert and everyone there was coming okay well you said you were interacting with the people but sometimes after you just played a show for a thousand people you might not want them to interact with you quite as much as the other you know like you have a limit of what you want or were you wide open off a pill geeked out ready to socialize yeah i was open to it a little bit you know people were respectful i was also with my band and like you know i had my i had my band with their run interference i'm sure i mean you know are people more chill knowing that you're with child your wife is pregnant and they're like we're just gonna be chill right now like yeah less fan less fan freak outs yeah less fan freak sets then they know i'm sure you've had had some freaks over the years but like you know i feel like you're i feel like people who like kevin morby are pretty normal unfortunately we talk about this katie and i talk about this and other people like because i do have some friends who's got the most serial killer fans you or me bad well yeah and like luckily i mean we we know some people who have some like pretty intense fans but also you know like i'm friends with some people who they they have a lot of younger fans and i think that's the thing if your fans are like above they're not teenagers they usually have some a pretty good sense of decorum especially within their 20s or 30s but like yeah i think you know when you get like 15 year old fans speak for yourself speak for yourself bro you put me in the same room with fucking you know i'm gonna go crazy i can't control myself you know with certain adults you know i mean you put me in the you put me in the room with yeah with uh you know robert smith or something i'm gonna fucking start you know grabbing under his leg like a child his dad doesn't want to leave for work you know what i mean chris just sat next to michael stipe from rem at a dinner and i didn't see you barking or wiping dragging your ass across the floor or anything no i'm joking i know how to behave but you're a cool guy but but i mean stipe is pretty cool and like luckily we've met before so it wasn't too crazy but i mean it is pretty interesting when it's truly your all-timer you know what i mean there's like that's amazing there's five guys that no burger there's five guys you know what i mean at the top it's just us and i'm hungry yeah i can't even imagine all my top five are dead except for one which would be the only living is bob dylan and i would keep my cool around him but But it would, yeah, like you around Michael Stipe.

31:29It would be insane. Who are the dead ones, bro? Damn, that's a lot of dead guys.

31:34Jason Stewart:Four dead goats. Let's get into it. Yeah, who are your top four dead guys? Bob's basically there. Yeah, Bob. Okay. It was his birthday yesterday. Marry me in my Arcteric shell. His birthday? Lou Reed, Nina Simone, Leonard Cohen, and Towns Van Zandt. Oh, yeah, they are. They're dead as hell, too. They're dead as hell. That's a nice collection. Thank you. That is a nice collection. You can tell you really do this, Kevin. You know what I'm saying? you're really about this shit. And now that inspires me, you mentioned the Dylan, you mentioned all these goats. Now that you're still a very young man, but you've been in the game for a minute, I want a traveling Wilburys-esque super group that you are sort of the Bob Dylan of.

32:14Jason Stewart:Get the Roy Orbisons over and get everyone. I would love to. Who would be in your traveling Wilburys? That's the real question. That's a great question. I don't know. Do you have to put destiner in just because right now you know what i'm saying destiner would be perfect in there it would be great in there can destiner can he play every instrument yes very well too very very okay instead of george harrison mgk off top you're bob dylan because that's your goat machine gun kelly you know ironically bob dylan loves machine gun i don't know young i like young blood for this i like young blood i was with bleach the hair he's there jake linderman and i went to um see patterson and craig finn patterson hood from drop by truckers and craig finn from hold steady play a show recently and someone took a photo of the four of us and that was funny you know just the different generations i guess of like a you know certain sect of indie rock or whatever and um jake kept saying that i had early onset unk disease which is funny you do you do you are suffering from early onset that's cold i mean you are the you are the age somewhere in between him and the hold steady so I mean the shoe fits but then you got they released my track star today and Kurt Vile did his track star and he was like I know Kevin since he was a child and I'm like yeah Kurt is in between me or Patterson or me and Craig so then like him or Adam from War on Drugs those guys are in their 40 so you know man how old are you 35?

33:43I'm 38

33:47Jason Stewart:you're a true millennial ass I'm a true millennial. You got a great head of hair. So it's, it's tough to say. What is the, okay. What, how did you do on track star? How did our boy Jack put you through the ringer or was it, was it easy? I did good. He gave me a lot of contemporary stuff. Okay. So it was, it was like your peers. It was like my peers. And then like the one that kind of stumped me early on was Jesus, Jesus and Mary chain, which of course I know who they are. And I just watched lost in translation, but it threw me. I was like, who the hell is this song? But, um, but I did pretty good.

34:14Yeah. It was, you know, he gives you a lot more than what is on Instagram, but I got most of them. I had a tough time, bro. I had a tough time. I was like, bro, I wasn't prepared. I don't know. I just think I don't, I don't, I don't know. I just wasn't, it was not my thing. I was not good at it. It was fine. I was fine. It's nerve wracking. It is scary. Like you think like, oh man, you watch other people do it and you're like, oh, I would slay this. And you get on the streets in New York, some people are watching you, some strangers. Well, it was also Kevin in my case, and I don't mean to, I'm not making excuses obviously because the edit looks great, but I was, I was, it was hot.

34:44I was sweating. It was very warm outside. and I think that really fucked I think that fucked in my head a little bit

34:48Jason Stewart:and you're sweating knowing that all these people are watching you know like Courtney Love is on the toilet watching you fuck up this Jesus and Mary Jane song you know what I mean dude I you know I did a view from the bridge recently I don't know if you saw that but you know that one when you pick up the red phone on the bridge and yes you tell a secret is that what you do you tell like a story and I just did that and like they aired mine and when I was doing that man I similar thing I was jet lagged I was, I'd flown to London the day before and you know, it's London. It's like overcast. I wore this raincoat and raincoats, you know, it's like, they'll make you, if it's hot at all, it like traps that heat in there.

35:26And it was like the moment they were like, okay, in action, like tell your story. I got so hot and the jet lag hit me all at once. And I was like, dude, I am struggling. I'm like, I don't know how to do this. And I was like, it's, it's humbling because you watch those and you're like, oh man, I'd tell the best story in the world if I was ever asked to be on this thing. and then you get there and you're like i'm i'm fucking sweating man it's hot you're you're particularly confident about stuff like this i will say you you think you're gonna tell a great

35:52Jason Stewart:story i i think i'm middle of the road but also i think it's easy to like do the little instagram video where it's the the stakes aren't as insane as like oh i'm gonna go on letterman for the first time right we got to talk to kevin about about fucking auto-tune gate i forgot i forgot oh yeah We spoke about it, but Jason, if you're not familiar, it was Kimmel, right, Kevin? Mm-hmm. Kevin and the band played on Kimmel, and then he was watching it on the plane that night or whatever, whenever it aired. And they had auto-tuned his voice without asking him. They just gave you a little love. What percentage of zhuzhing do you think they did on your voice?

36:3060%. 60 or 70%. Okay, so a noticeable amount. noticeable to where it's like an aesthetic choice like you know like the strokes have their new single and it's like the aesthetic choice julian castellblanc is an amazing singer but he's like i want to have auto-tune that's the sound it's like one of the worst one of the worst stroke songs i've ever heard so maybe they should try something else but yeah let him get it out of his system there's gonna be other songs yeah exactly he's just he's just bored and trying to switch things up or something but like it was such a surreal experience because you know all this time and money and energy goes into those things and you know we rehearse the band you pay for this rental space and then you like go and do it it's a really cool experience and everyone there is wonderful and like i played that show before and i love it and you do the thing and you it's nerve it you know it's nerve-wracking you're like oh we killed it we got it you know we did great and everyone who works there's wonderful and then well except except jimmy but we'll get into that later go ahead oh my god well i watched i watched it on the plane I was flying home the next day when it aired and I was like, oh my God, they've got live TV on the plane and Kimmel's about to start.

37:36I get to watch myself on the screen. That's a pretty amazing twisted experience.

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38:20Jason Stewart:I agree, Chris. And sometimes, you know, it's nice to be talking to somebody, even if they're not even listening, even if you don't even get to be in the same room with them because what you're doing is you're admitting these things to yourself and that's the most that's the most rewarding thing you can do sometimes so you can have a great little therapy sesh with your perfect therapist at better help choosing between over 30 000 people so you can get the right one just for you over six million people globally are using it and you know have some breakthroughs go on that walk after your better help sash you know whatever it might be get a nice little lunch all for yourself maybe a non-alcoholic kombucha and just think and be like damn i really am him you don't have to be on this journey alone find support and have somebody with you in therapy sign up and get 10 off at betterhelp.com slash how long that is better h e l p.com slash how long there was a guy next to me that was like kind of old curmudgeon who was like playing a card game on his computer the whole time and i was like just like kind of like turning up the brightness of my screen hoping he'd look over you know what i mean like hey man i'm crazy he caught me watching myself but um but no he never took notice but long hairs all look the same to me i'm sorry i didn't know he's like robin playing solitaire for eight hours i don't even notice human beings i'm kind of in the zone so if you yeah i'm locked he's like josh josh groban's back on kimmel um okay so you so you watched it on the plane and then how far into the performance did you start realizing that this was fucked well i'm watching on the shitty earphones that they give you which are really bad which are really bad sound quality so i honestly did not notice i'm just hearing like the white noise of the plane more than anything but i'm like man we look at this i can tell the performance is good and then like then the techs start rolling in hey man did you mean to auto-tune your voice like is that a new thing and i was like what dig in the new direction was this was this from like friends Was this from fellow musicians?

40:18Was this management? Like who was the first flag? Friends and my publicist. So then walking through the airport when we landed, watching it on my phone, like no headphones, just watching it on my phone. It was like two in the morning. We landed really late. And two in the morning watching it. And I was like, oh my God. But to be honest with you, I was so tired from the trip. And it was two in the morning. And this flight had been delayed a bunch of times. And so I was like, what? I just have to get home. It's like a 40 minute drive to get home. when I got home I literally just passed out I was like I just got into bed and went straight to sleep in the morning I woke up to all these texts you know a lot of people saying like good good job on Kimmel but a lot of people like what's up with this auto-tune then I addressed it and it was this one day that I had home before I was at Kimmel and then I had to fly to go do this like crazy promo week in New York so this one day off that then just turned into this long day of like having them fix this auto-tune thing that they do so how do you how do you tell them to how do you who gets in touch with jimmy kimmel's people and says hey you illegally auto-tuned me and i'm a nice guy so i'm just gonna let you fit i'm gonna let you fix it you're gonna walk away scott free but we need

41:25Jason Stewart:to have that conversation look chris is getting in his manager bag right now he's he's getting the little tingle i would have loved to call i would have called kim out i said i'm coming down there right now i'm gonna fucking slash i'm gonna slash the tesla tires you get the ship fixed in an hour it was a thing it was a thing that like well you know first and foremost like you're so like you're honored to be on these shows, right? And you're happy that they've selected you. And so you don't want to kick the hornet's nest or something. But at the same time, you're like, well, that's not what... It would be like putting a face filter on somebody without asking.

41:54Well, I'm personally fine with that. But I know in your case, you also... You can sing, but it's like your thing. You know what I mean? It's my thing. You're not Adele. You're doing it a certain way that you want to do it. Right, exactly. And it's... Yeah, it's all my favorite singers couldn't sing. It's like, it would like be putting like a filter on, you know, yeah. I'm like, I'm like Connor Oberst or something. You know what I mean? It's like the character is what makes it great. But like, um, in his, I'm not saying that's what makes me great. I don't want to toot my own heart, but like, it's what makes someone like, you know, uh, There's probably some, there's probably some moments where Connor wouldn't have minded a face filter, but he's looking great now.

42:28I saw him last night. Oh, he's a beautiful man. He's a beautiful man. Looks good. He's crushing it. He's crushing it right now. Um, but like, you know, they just, that sort of thing, like, you know, it's, it's the rough around the edges it's what makes us us guys with our guitars it's what makes the whole thing uh work perfectly imperfect bro perfectly imperfect so anyways i told my publicist and he he reached out to the booker who's this really great guy and the booker was like oh no you know we wouldn't have done that but then the booker asked the the audio engineer and he was like i did put it on there i thought he would have wanted it because there's he's a little pitchy in a couple places which then you're like dude like i almost took it as a compliment because i literally think maybe this guy looked up the producer saw it's aaron desner saw that he works with like ed sheeran and taylor swift and stuff and maybe he was like i took it as a compliment in a way of like oh this song is kind of like a pop song like if you can't look he said if he can't have gracie abrams abs we can at least give him the pitch if nothing else we can give him like a guy on this level deserves

43:24Jason Stewart:to have production quality with the likes of the ed sheeran's of the world sharing kind of thing And so I was like, okay. And so it became this thing where I was like, okay, well, we need to get this fixed. How quickly can they fixed it? And then you're in this funny conversation because it's like, well, they have Duran Duran in there today. So they're not going to have time. And then it's like, well, maybe in a week they can re-upload a thing. But as the hours slowly eked on, it became a thing of like, no, you know what? Like, they need to fix this as soon as possible. Like, thank you for having us on the show, but you can't do this to my voice.

43:58And like, this is my integrity. and we all sort of quickly came to that you know and i was talking to amelia from sylvanessa who's on the track who's uh you know did the show with us and like jacob my publicist and like himself was like no yeah we need to fix this like as soon as possible and then it's a bummer thing because like the numbers will be different and it won't make a like whatever but you're like well okay

44:17Jason Stewart:it kind of shoots you in the foot with those first numbers for your total engagement but yeah it's got to be done it's got to be done as soon as possible because two weeks later yeah and you the world has moved on away from your Kimmel performance. Exactly. Do we think this is like something they often do? Like, do we think they put the sauce on other people? I mean, certain people are probably fine with it, certain people aren't, I would imagine. They did say they're used to it with pop artists. So again, I think they just interpreted me for whatever reason. That is a compliment, Kev. They saw your little, y 'all motherfuckers up there looking like the Muppets.

44:50Oh, my glasses on.

44:50Jason Stewart:Is that Zara Larson up there? Anyways, I better turn the squelch up to 11, man. I think too, you know, And like, you know, Amelia is like, she's a pop star. Like she's, you know, Sylvan Epp. So it was like a pop. I think he did, the audio engineer probably did a little bit of research and was like, oh, I think this is like a pop thing. That's pretty cool. Because if I looked at the fucking 80 all up there, I'd have been like, this ain't, okay, I know what this is. And that ain't that. Yeah. Yeah. This is undoubtedly indie rock. This guy grew up listening. He loves Isaac Brock. And, you know, he's not trying to.

45:21Jason Stewart:He's not in an EDM duo. Yeah. It's such a crazy thing. that did a lot of people reach out i'm sure a lot of people other artists got in touch with you i'm sure because i feel like maybe other this has happened to other people yeah i think it was a good lesson to learn and i also think it's a thing where like maybe worth taking my own like person there just to like i don't know a clear the audio that they use or whatever but and all i'll love that they were really accommodating with fixing it it was just a mistake and in the end is one of those things because i wrote about it it became a thing i think it you know it had its reach of people understanding it wasn't like the guy also was like he was definitely like his he was not ill intent it was like he was definitely not ill intent no yeah but he but it but it's his fuck up because that's a big decision to make without consulting with you yes totally totally totally that is a thing he should have ran by us for sure i'm just saying he wasn't he wasn't trying to make it sound worse i guess is what i'm trying to say totally totally he's like i'm trying to say this guy can't sing man i gotta fuck an album out it's like a doctor like you know he put you under for a root canal.

46:20Jason Stewart:He's like, by the way, we took your balls out while you were under. I didn't want to wake you up. Your nose was a little big, so we just trimmed it down a little bit. It wouldn't be taking the balls out. It would be like, we put you under for the root canal, and we also gave you, we put like a gem. We bleached your asshole while we were giving you while we took your tonsils out. A yin-yang tooth gem. Hope you don't mind. We gave you a yin-yang symbol tooth gem now it's not permanent but it's 18 months usually and then it falls off exactly we thought it looked quite cool so i you know i don't know it's your decision i guess once you wake up into yin and yang i don't know all right this is this was it was a big thing though i have to say because i did watch it but i don't know if i you know i hate to say it i don't know if i watched it before or after it was fixed do you know what i mean like i don't know i definitely watched it a lot of people didn't know a lot of people like like my parents like explain to my parents it's like there's no way they could ever understand a lot of people didn't know but it's like if you know like if you make records you'll know basically it's like feeding caviar to a pig just goes right above their head they don't they can't appreciate the nuance what i'm saying to you kevin is i i think i should be able to tell and the reality is i can't and i'm coming to terms with that myself you know that's the chris is a numbers guy when it comes to music it was really on the word javelin it'd be like like a it is like oh yeah you went for a 12 octave run on a single word damn kevin's been practicing i guess that mariah carey vocal coach really helped her seventh to the d12 okay exactly exactly go off bro i don't know i said d12 sorry that's okay they're a great group jason don't put them down so are you okay so you're you're going but you're on the road now for a while it's a classic like three-month-er bro yeah well when's the baby coming when's the baby coming in august so i'm kind of touring up until being a dad so i'm just signing up for zero sleep but in a way it's good because like tour is just boot camp of not sleeping and so and i think having a kid is going to be that as well so that's what you've been telling yourself that's what you know the yeah you know the difference is kevin every night you walk on that stage people cheer for you they're screaming they're buying your merch that's true when you wake up in the middle of the night to take care of a baby you get nothing they hate you that's true you get feces as a man you can't do shit anyway dry you know you can't do shit at least i'll be these shows have been going off it's been great right but every night you wake up and you know i remember this is one time like like you just wake up in a coffin at four in the morning the other day i banged my head i thought i was in like a regular room and i like went to sit up and like hit my head really hard and like that's my that's i fear i would do that every single night on the bus there's just these half drink bottles of water around you and bro i'm still traumatized for my one night on the bus with katie i'm i wake up you're you thought your phone was plugged in but it wasn't charging at all the whole night exactly there's like half-eaten granola bars and it's just it's it's uh there's mustard on my leg okay there's times where i'm like there's no way having a kid can be this exhausting though i'm sure i'll eat those words it's just a different type of exhaustion which singer songwriter rename it and naming the baby after that's the question towns towns morby towns no not towns not towns i was thinking i had a little towns in the other night but um fergie there's too many towns is out there actually fergie if it's a girl fergie we got a name but i but i can't say it on the hot mic no of course i understand that i understand that we can bleep it yeah we'll bleep it scouts honor we'll bleep it all right well then the child's name is bleep wow you you cracked the code you beat the system you son of a bitch i I think Fergie Morby does have a nice ring to it, Jess.

49:59Jason Stewart:Yeah, Fergie Morby is quite nice, and we don't want to, you know, I'm sure you and Katie had a nice pinky swear on we're not going to tell anyone the names kind of thing, and we want to respect that, just to let you know. We're going to name him Fatboy Slim. Fatboy Slim Morby is good. Well, Slim if it's a girl, Fatboy if it's a boy, naturally. This is Eve, he's named after Eve Six.

50:28it's really funny and clear it's yeah it's really funny to think about modern band names as just give you ever clear this is ever clear morby he's look sigaros morby the third this is there's always those 90s like like one hit wonders where you're like that was the name like i'm trying to even think like oh you know this is duncan chic named after duncan chic duncan chic duncan chic i think is a government name too i think that's his real name which is a blessing i would have to say overall that's sick i was i was reading today about local h which i'm sure you remember which was oh yeah of course which is a that is a distinctly 90s name i think like that's very distinct because i could i could see it on like a work shirt patch you know what i'm saying like that's how i imagine it totally show how i imagine it showing up the person in front of house uh on this tour uh this woman ollie who's amazing she's she's in her 20s and like we we've all been referencing Dumb and Dumber constantly because we played in Aspen and we're all just obsessed with that movie we're all you know at least 10 years older than her and she said she'd never seen it and so we watched it with her last night and I only bring it up because the soundtrack is so good on that and it's full of bands like that where you're like who did that like who sang Mary Moe you know what I mean well seven little seven Mary three in the credits something light you know something light for the heads this happened to me actually with REM these producers on a shoot where they were like who's michael stipe and i was like um he's in a band called rem and they're like i don't dude it's mind-blowing when that happens i'm like vaguely familiar with that and i was like that's i mean i guess sure but that seemed it just seems so big to me but i guess it is 10 20 years old at this point i think what's tripping me out now is that like like i remember when like lindsey from snail mail like maybe didn't know who like some band was like like breeders or something i don't want to get it wrong yeah because you know she'll call in she'll call in she'll call in she'll call him shout out to lindsey i just saw her but like it was a thing where like like i i don't know like lindsey didn't know who someone was or something who i was like oh really like i i grew up with them but now i feel like there's people like i don't know now there's kids starting bands who are like in their late teens who might not know who like mac de marco is or something you know what i'm saying like they definitely definitely definitely i think just

52:37Jason Stewart:young people they know a lot about certain music and then certain you know like everyone every kid nose slow dive and you know these more obscure bands and they're more celebrated and rem they just like the younger generation hasn't really grasped onto them with the same they need a tiktok they need a tiktok thing to happen that's the only way to really cross over stand video that's that's the first tiktok dance i would say it's crazy yeah some of these bands are like having this big moment because of tiktok it's really i think these uh you know renaissance moments and it's really interesting to watch but it's mind-blowing when bands like green day is the perfect example and also strokes they keep getting younger generations of fans where like some bands just become nostalgia acts like blink 182 i went to see them at uh msg and there wasn't like a person there who was under 30 but like you know someone like green day like there's a 15 year old out there right now who's discovering dookie and they're like it's my favorite album it's it's amazing like you know you know what i hate george bush too fuck this man exactly i was i was in montrose yesterday which is a little suburban neighborhood in glendale it's like the very any town usa kind of middle of america vibe yeah and there was a group of you know maybe 12 year old kids all on you know mountain bikes and one of them was wearing a brand new blink 182 t-shirt with like a modern logo on it like just got it at a show this week oh that's cool it's crazy how some of them are like you're a legacy act and then you you just keep going you just keep going i it's really interesting i have this whole theory where i'm like like billy joe from green day he reminds me a lot of jeff tweede in a way because i feel like those guys they always they're always doing something they're always doing a side project or they're always they just keep going and they keep like releasing like good stuff and i'm gonna do this tour gonna produce this guy's album gonna do this cruise and i think it comes from the fact they really are just like obsessed with music like i always hear that like billy joe's in town in la with his cover band doing like three nights at the troubadour and you're like man that guy had sold out stadiums and he's choosing to do that i think you know similar thing with jeff uh you know where jeff uh you know he can play these big theaters but also he'll go into clubs and do solo shows and it's a cool thing cool thing to see yeah but are you are you jealous when billy joe billy joe from green day plays a 67 000 person stadium and then you know goes straight to the bar to do covers with his friend like when when you're watching the band at pappy's are you thinking like i should be up there too like billy or are you happy with where you're at i'm i'm happy with where i'm at but you know you always you always want more you always want whatever you're at becomes like your new zero and then you say oh man you know only i could ever play to like 200 people and you play 200 people and there's 500 people there's a thousand then you're like oh if only it was like three three thousand every show okay you know but what if what if you hit the if only i could sleep tonight you know what i mean that that comes for you eventually right that comes for you eventually there's that great scene in the wire where uh i always forget the character's name but he's the guy who's like always working on like the little like sailboats and he's he says to mcnalty like it's not about the case at the end of the day at the end of the day you got to go home and have a life you know there's always going to be another case and the case can't be your whole life and it's the same way with music you know i make a comfortable living living my dream and i built this thing and it's and it's so wonderful and i've been doing it for so long but there's times where you really have to uh you have to zoom out and be like hey man it's great out here i'm doing great yeah and uh i can't believe i'm still doing it i've been doing these vip packages which is i was worried about then going into it because i was like okay chris brown i can't wait to see the pictures what chris your your connection's kind of bad he said okay chris brown because he's known for his fan meet and greet experiences charging several thousands of dollars to sit on a big girl's lap oh wow several thousand dollars and then and then maybe maybe a thick woman would sit in his lap is a photo of you of a woman wearing some big bud press overalls and you're sitting on her lap no but a bunch of kids drove up from mexico to the show in san diego last night who were cool as hell and one of them had this like sort of bode style like embroidered shirt that his like girlfriend had made him that was all my lyrics it was sick wow commitment these things these mean greets again back to the recognition not being overwhelming it's not it's not too overwhelming or taxing and it's it's like i was worried that it would sort of be exhausting an exhausting thing to do before then having to play the show but it's actually really rejuvenating and meeting these people and they come in and you just hear their stories and like why they like your music and some of it's really casual but some people are like man i got diagnosed with stage four cancer and they got me through my chemotherapy and like you you hear stuff like that and it's it's really just like oh man i'm really lucky to be doing this and that my work is connecting with people they should pay extra for that if you're gonna get emotional on me i gotta charge a little extra that's that's a little that's like i gotta hit you for extra 150 if you're getting emotional no that helps because sometimes you need to help with a little gas in the tank to get up on stage and all those stories will gas you up right you need a little gas in the tank and like it's you know this record's been all my records you know uh generally you know reviewed very well and like you see some reviews i will say this is the first one in a while where there's the amount of reviews i've stopped reading them because i'll read some of the reviews and they've all been really um really great kevin you can't read the reviews you can't read yeah everyone says that but everyone kind of does everyone kind of does sure but you you were you know what i mean but you so pitch for it gave you a favorable review but you didn't get the you didn't get the um i didn't get the crown you didn't get the best new music that was an issue for you you didn't get the bm the best music what what number did you get though i don't know it seems like chris knows chris why don't you enlighten us i don't know you told me about it uh so i don't know eight something eight zero eight zero it seemed like i was i was primed to get the best new music but then it didn't happen but um you know man zero eight zero it was a great review the guy the guy was the guy was a great writer uh it was a great review yeah i mean that's that's getting an eight on pitchfork in 2026 that is something to celebrate that's not something that you see too often unless it's just you and drake basically i feel like they also don't give that to like guitar music because they want to give it to like some freaky edm bullshit or something that like i don't understand you know what i mean they did the profile and then they like had my like pictures the lead review and i was like i think they might give a best music but you know they're they're tricky they're like coyotes man they're tricksters you never know you never know like literally going into it's like okay they gave me the profile they might give me like a six you know what i mean and like you have to be prepared for that and it is it is crazy to get the full profile with photo shoot in hometown that hits you with the 5.5 that does feel a little that does feel a little that's happened to motherfuckers but it is coyote like that website in particular uh i've been all over the spectrum with it but it's like but i guess just what i'm saying is you see reviews and they've been really favorable for this this album like overwhelmingly so honestly and like it's been really really wonderful but still reading stuff that's good about you is like eating processed sugar where it's not that's not healthy either and like reading bad stuff about yourself is certainly not healthy but then when you meet fans and you see like that's the real review when you a human being is coming to you.

59:42Speak for yourself, bro. Our fans hate us. They like your ass. They hate us. They would run us over with their Rivians if they could.

59:48Jason Stewart:So the good review, that's a false sense of awesomeness, and then meeting the people in person, that is a real sense that you are an awesome person. And we do have fans, Chris, some of them. Yeah, your fans just have a different way of showing it. It's like flirting. They like to... They think you guys like the jab, you know? They neg us. It's like first graders on the playground, like they punch us to show their love. And I'm not even saying that I got to meet the fans to feel the love, but just the people being at the shows and like seeing that they're singing the songs. It's such an amazing.

1:00:19Well, no, it seems like, I mean, it seems like it's got, I mean, the record's really good. And it seems like people are saying it's the, you know, maybe the best Morby they've heard is what I'm.

1:00:27Jason Stewart:It's your moon in Antarctica, people are saying. Exactly. Exactly. That's what the streets are saying. But I mean, can you feel a difference at the show? Like do people know the songs already and shit? And it's pretty early on. Yeah, it feels a little bit like a level up, which is really exciting. Kansas City-wise, do you think this has put you in a different power ranking? Is it you, Caleb, Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes? What's the ranking? Once you got an eight on Pitchfork, where do you move up on the KC rankings? That has to bump you up above Sudeikis. Well, I think probably Rudd and Sudeikis run that town.

1:01:06Oh, I forgot we got Rudd. Rudd's tough. Rudd's tough. You're not, you ain't touching Rudd. Yeah, I'm not getting close to Rudd, but those guys are great, and I've hung with them, and then, but yeah, then the select, you know, well, actually, I mean, Rudd, Rudd is, like, grandfathered into running that town, but, like, Mahomes, Mahomes could blow up the town, and no one would get fucking pissed at that guy. He'd be like, I'm gonna set a bomb off and blow up everyone. They'd be like, thank you, Patrick. You know what, you guys will love this. Recently, I was driving down Word Parkway in Kansas City and I see this like kind of nice car.

1:01:37It wasn't the nicest car but it was like this kind of nice convertible and it said Mahomes with a Z and I was like no fucking way. Is that Patrick? And I speed up to get next to him and it was his brother. It was Jackson. And I was like dude this motherfucker. The one who's problematic. The problematic brother is trying to The problematic brother with the vanity plate that says Mahomes.

1:01:57Jason Stewart:Do you think he pulls from that plate? Gets a little runoff from that license plate? Probably. He definitely gets some runoff. Cause a few accidents, if anything. But I say it's me and Katie and then Caleb. Caleb's pretty fucking famous, man. Yeah, he is. He's pretty famous now. He is. So you, all right. But I feel like you and Katie, I mean, it depends on if we're going as a package or we're separating on the power rankings. Cause if we go in as a package, obviously that's bumping you up above a couple of mid level chiefs players. Yeah. Mid level chiefs players. Sure. We're going in solo. Things can get weird.

1:02:27You know what I mean? It could get, these can get weird. I don't want to do that. But, you know, there's some Chiefs players that are, you know, I like, I don't know. Like, there's some, you know, nameless Chiefs players. And, you know, there's some baseball players. No one knows who the hell they are. Period. You know what I mean? But when you're in Kansas City, look, you know, if I'm driving around with you and the Ranger in Kansas City and we stop to get a coffee, you know, the they them barista is going to know you and you got to tip 100%. There's like a, there's a meme account. There's a Kansas City meme account.

1:02:57And there's one that says. Oh, baby. there's one that's a there's like a picture of just like a nondescript like white guy with facial hair like myself and it said like uh like like average joe uh uses the name kevin morby on his resi account to get free drinks at the bar while he waits and so like that's kind of the vibe in kansas city you know what i mean okay so they like you but they're willing to poke fun at you as well it's not yeah like that it's fine that meme probably went like kansas city viral which is like maybe 400 likes or something like that you know Kansas City that's for this for this for this uh for this account that's that's big numbers man Kansas City Viral good name for a song I don't know how did it go well it was Kansas City Viral didn't go crazy you know what I mean it was me and Katie always say you know I'll be like I'm like a Kansas City six you know what I mean or

1:03:42Jason Stewart:no sorry Kansas City 10 but like a your words not ours brother yeah the time split between LA Kansas City feels like a real whiplash but I feel like you like that that feels that feels too different to me hey man it brings it back to the yin yang it does bring it back to the yeah that is the yang back to that tooth how long what's which city la or kc is the longer ride home from the airport dude they're the same which is like it shouldn't be that way kansas city shouldn't be as far away from the airport as it is it was four miles one of them is 40 miles takes the same amount of time i didn't realize it was that far wow dude it's too fucking far and howard hughes built that the original airport out there in the 60s and i think they thought it'd be a bigger town than it ended up being Oh, I see.

1:04:22It was wishful thinking. Yeah, they gave it too much room to breathe, let's say. Sounds like downtown LA, right? Yeah, exactly. But then they were like, oh, it turns out culture and fun times didn't really take off in this town.

1:04:35Jason Stewart:Culture and fun times. I'm going to come back. I found it pretty charming. We had good weather and shit, but I was only there for a day. I was only there for a day. Kansas City's great. My whole thing with, you know, it's funny because like Caleb's from Chillicothe, Missouri, a small town in Missouri, and then Katie's from Birmingham. I'm sorry. what'd you say that sounded racist what'd you say cold brew coffee he's from cold brew coffee missouri and katie katie's from uh birmingham alabama and those two those two i'm always talking shit on kansas city and those two are always like kansas city's the best i'm like you're not from there motherfucker it's different you want to go back to chilla coffee and you want to go back to birmingham cool water it probably is pretty good we see your point it's and i'm like dude your hometown is like if it's like your brother it's like i can talk as much shit on my brother no one else can talk shit on my breath but i can talk shit on my brother true and all the things that make it hateable is exactly what i love about it as well my wife hates it when i call it anacrime instead of anaheim she's like yo chill that's good that shit out of your mouth dude i call it kansas shitty misery man kansas city missouri wow i've never heard that that's good i prefer nashville what is it teneke as a that's a cocaine reference kevin sorry i don't mean to oh that's funny i believe that's a three is that three six mafia jason i think it may be from the Gotta Stay Fly song by 361.

1:05:50Jason Stewart:Oh, okay. Well, Kevin's also, Kevin's an honorary Memphis. You know, he loves Memphis, so I thought I'd bring it back. Project Kev? Project Kev. What else? What else are we going to talk about? Project Kev. Okay, well, now that you're a Los Angelino part-time, of course, let's get into the mayoral race. Are you voting for Pratt or what, bro? I'm voting for Jessica Pratt. She's unfortunately not running this year from what I can tell. It's only Spencer Pratt from the hills. I don't talk politics outside of indie rock. Yeah. Okay. Smart move. Smart move. We know where your loyalties fall. You live in fucking so far east.

1:06:27We already know what you're doing. Yeah, yeah. I'm in El Serino. You guys know what I'm doing. You guys, like someone goes to Momdani's account and they see all my likes. Kevin Moore would be like Momdani's post. That's a good way to throw him off the scent. I gotta start liking more Momdani posts so people will leave me alone. That's a good idea. Who liked this done-to-death project? Chris is down with the resistance Chris supports him I saw a like the other day I would have supported him if he came on the if he wouldn't have canceled and come on the show I would have supported him but he chose his

1:06:54Jason Stewart:Chris liking three mom Donnie posts is his version of doing the work yeah that's if I liked three mom Donnie posts I might as well have canvassed Bed-Stuy that's like a full time that's a full time fucking job with how powerful you are that's true thank you Kevin thank you for giving me that show of support alright Kevin we love you bro we appreciate it Memorial Day. Love you guys too. I'm glad we did this. I'm glad we made it work. Thank you for being so flexible. We need a little bro time on the road in AZ, right? It's really nice. It's supposed to take vocal rest and this is the opposite of that, but that's okay.

1:07:25It's now 2pm. I'm going to go eat a very late lunch. It's 100 degrees here. I think I'll go for a run later, like as the sun sets. Yeah, a nice sunset run after a burrito. Sounds great. Smart move.

1:07:34Jason Stewart:Yeah. What's your pre-sun run meal going to be? I think I'll just get some tacos. Yeah. Also, speaking about looking stuff, I mean, I'm looking double chin right now but uh i i just my track star i saw one of the comments one of these comments is iconic it said like uh this guy looks italian by all means like uh features in his face and his hair and even the outfit he's also got a little extra pasta chub to his face damn bro that's ruthless out here i like that somebody took time out of their memorial day yeah yeah yeah to let you know that they think your face is a little fat probably because you eat so much pasta comments are incredible i like you know i will say being on tour you end up looking at your phone a lot so you you see the strays but at this point and i genuinely mean this the comments don't bother me i think they're hilarious i think i think like so that's funny that like i think that's really that is funny laughing all the way to the bank my favorite thing in the world is when i get like dms or like a comment of just someone being like it's very sweet it's very genuine when someone's like hey man i see you have like an off day here like crazy crazy i'm just gonna throw this out there but like me and my friends would love to have you over you want to like play some songs in our living room i think shit like that's so endearing and i'm like never ever would i do that but i love the ask man i respect the ask okay what about when you get the ask of hey i'm a local up-and-coming photographer and if you need some pics at your sold-out concert tonight i would love exactly to take some photos for you for free in exchange for a backstage passes jason don't reveal my dm that i sent kevin don't reveal the dm i sent kevin is it is it endearing when they try that little trick yeah on the festival i think all the hustle i respect the hustle and i respect you know like hey i see you have a day off in houston we live a few hours away in dallas we know an awesome cafe you could play you could be the headliner i can't guarantee any money but it would be really sick like if you came and like i think our projects would really go well and i i could promise you i can guarantee you a good crowd i love shit like that i respect it i can guarantee you a good crowd is like yeah that's as good as money for me at this stage you respond with the two middle finger emojis and you say wow i love that spirit young hustler attitude i i don't respond but i just i guess now i just talk about on how long gone that's that's all we do too yeah if you live in dallas don't be don't be sad if we leave you on red don't be sad fort worth's only 45 if you got any cafes there we can think about it um all right kevin enjoy enjoy your time in phoenix and we'll talk goes congrats on the great new album and all the success, brother.

1:10:02Love the album, Kevin. No joke. We'll see you on the road for sure. Thank you guys so much. Hey.

1:10:31Just me trying to grow