951. - Chris & Jason

0:00All right, this episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by Stateside with Kai and Carter, a new podcast from The Guardian. And they are using this podcast to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions that we all have about what's happening in the world. And they do it three times a week. Jason, does that sound familiar to you?

0:13Jason Stewart:We don't really talk about, you know, a lot of international global news items and climates and cultures and sports and things like that. We do talk about fashion and wellness, but for everything else, Kai and Carter are a great place. All right, so who couldn't use more news? Listen wherever you get your podcasts or watch on YouTube.

0:49how long gone brother chris is in the building coming to you live from so deep in western in Canada that I don't want to pronounce the name of the city because it would feel disrespectful, I think, to the local people.

1:01Jason Stewart:Just the way that the sounds would come out of your mouth, there's no way it won't be offensive. Let me spell it. Let me spell it for you. I was talking to Tim yesterday. I sent him the Wikipedia and he said, that's too many vowels for me, big bro. It's O-O-S-O-Y-O-O-S. O-S-O-Y-O-O-S? Yes. Osayus? Osayus. the motto, Canada's warmest welcome, because I'm in the desert over here, Jason. And just so you know, it's the southernmost town in the Okanagan Valley in British Columbia between Penticton and Omoc. We're near the Washington border. Okay, okay. So you're right on there. It's Canada's only true desert environment.

1:47Yeah, which is funny because when we got here, it was 90 degrees. And then yesterday, it rained all day like we were in London and it was in the 60s. So it's been a confusing. Temperature-wise, it's confusing. It's pretty beautiful, I have to say. It's on the water. It's pretty breathtaking. And the drive was really nice. But this was a, just to walk you through, just a quick travel story. It was a three-flight, one-hour drive day to get here. And the final flight.

2:13Jason Stewart:Three flights as in three separate airplane trips. Three separate airplane trips. LaGuardia. We're not talking about stairs. No, we're not talking about stairs. Because I did 64 yesterday if we're going to fucking, but go ahead. I went from LaGuardia to Minneapolis. Then we went to Minneapolis to Vancouver. Then in Vancouver, you land at the main terminal. Vancouver Airport, one of the world's best, unbelievable airport. Land at the Vancouver Airport. Then the terminal that we had to leave from to fly on the smallest plane I've ever been on that's not private to Penticton was a 15-minute cab ride and still considered part of the Vancouver Airport.

2:47So we get out. I have to go get in a cab, go to this other terminal, get on a plane that Alex squeezed my hand so hard it was purple. Like, it was truly scary. This plane was, it felt like we were going into battle, like a military-style, no-frills kind of situation.

3:03Jason Stewart:You know what I mean? It was giving WW2. It was giving WW2. We landed safely, of course, in a place called Penticton. Then I was able to get an all-new, a late-model, big-boy Yukon. So I do feel like I'm fitting. That was the only upside. I do feel like I'm fitting in in that way. Yukon XL 2026? Big boy with like the rumbling engine, the brr, brr, brr, brr, you know what I mean? The RSV or whatever they call it. You got the rumble package on the Yukon XL? I was able to get the rumble package for my friends. Black or is it a gray purple? Okay, good. No, it's crazy. It's the gift. So anyway, I'm here.

3:34We went to a wedding yesterday in a church that horses had moved to its current location in the 1800s. So it's all really, there's a lot of good and bad in this. It's a pretty fascinating place. They got a horses pop up there. What'd you say? It's crazy, bro. The off-menu pasta was smacking, I will say. It's as good as Bruce.

3:56Jason Stewart:Okay. So you're over here in Osu-Yus. Osu-Yus, yeah. Osu-Yus. Osu-Yusful, the place where two lakes come together. You spend some time on the lake. It has a very unique ecosystem over there in Osu-Yus. I'm trying to figure it out. I would love to. I don't have enough time to get a boat rental going. but otherwise I'll figure something out. Look, it's not Lake Como. You don't have to take the criss-craft out. You don't have to spend$18.50 per hour. Imagine if I could fit in a couple hours on the jet ski on the lake. Oh, baby. It's not that warm today. I mean, I would do it, of course. It's only going to be 72, but the sun's out.

4:33It's a nice day. It honestly is a beautiful setting.

4:35Jason Stewart:So you were in town for a wedding and the wedding already happened. No, the wedding happened yesterday. It was very intimate and then the party is tonight. But the best part about this is Alex's old friend Georgia her husband Frazier stuntman all right professional stuntman is he paid too dude honestly it seems pretty sick because I was asking him last I was asking him last night at the dinner I was like bro how can we break a bottle over my head this weekend you know what I mean and he was like oh dude I wish you would have let me know I could have got we could have he's like don't buy any shit off Amazon those might not work you know I mean you got to get some real prop house fake bottles if you want to get not not all um breakaway glass yes created equal christ and i was and i was really glad to hear that because that is an idea that i would have gotten to my head and all of a sudden we're in burbank at the studio you're going to break a bottle over my head and i'm fucking at cedars you know 30 minutes later so i'm glad that we want one type shit okay yeah exactly so you're over here with cliff booth fictional hollywood stuntman yes so he's in addition to him being paid and a a literal stuntman i'm assuming he has a nice body and is good looking and a charming fella yeah exactly exactly exactly yeah but the best part is i looked at his truck yesterday little little bumper sticker on the window i love stunts what a great sticker i mean you're a stuntman it's great dude if you're not also Oh, great.

6:01Yeah, it works for everybody. It works for everybody. But yeah, so we're here, and I have another marathon travel day tomorrow to make it back in time so we can head to London to head to Bistar Village.

6:12Jason Stewart:Yes, popping in through Bistar Village. It's all happening for me. I actually feel okay. I slept pretty well last night, so I'm coming back to life. It's that desert air. It's cleansing, brother. It is. It's been a lot of, this has been a pretty, even for me, an experienced traveler, this has been a test of my patience, I will say. Well, how many times a year do you think, you know, you have a lot of schedules and travel things and sectors of your life going on and sometimes things flow perfectly and then sometimes, you know, you've got a wedding and a work trip and a fun trip and a this and they all kind of coincide at the very same exact time and then, you know, really takes a toll on the old immune system, I'm assuming.

6:53Jason Stewart:Is that like three times a year it happens? I feel like that's like, that's it for me probably. I mean, honestly, you know me. If I feel bad, I kind of just thug it out. I mean, I don't... Well, it's also like the train don't stop. It's not like, what am I going to do? Like, not do something I'm supposed to do contractually? That's not really an option for me. I know, I know. But I mean, when it's non-negotiable everywhere, when like the personal thing is also, you can't move your best friend's wedding. It's a non-negotiable and a work thing is non-negotiable and maybe you had a fly fishing trip on the calendar.

7:27Jason Stewart:and Field and Stream's going to shit a brick if you have to push that again. Field and Stream is like, we will replace you with David Coggins again. Don't get it twisted. We will replace your little ass. Coggins is in my top eight. I have no problem contacting him. Coggins is in my... I have absolutely no problem getting in touch with him digitally to make this go. Okay, so while you're in Osu... Osu... Osu... Osu... You're enjoying nature. I'm assuming it's not a... it's not a big city vibes. It's not giving. No, it's not metropolitan. Are you, are you seeing, are you doing some RFK style snake removal?

8:06Jason Stewart:That's so funny. Some bare hand desert trail. It's so funny that you said that Alex said yesterday, this place is known for rattlesnakes. And I said, funny, you said that I saw a video of RFK doing exactly what I would do. If I encountered some rattlers over here at the spirit Ridge property, I would grab them with my left and my right and shake those motherfuckers so they didn't know what happened to you know well well rfk he he grabbed a couple black snakes i forgot what they're called but they're i don't think they're venomous or poisonous he wasn't he wasn't going to die but they will bite and i think he wants like that's one of the only times he feels alive like that's when he that's why he goes in there and touches these wild animals who are like frightened and you know fight or flight's going on i think he like you know kind of like that one friend of yours who hates his dad and then you know always gets in fights and you're like maybe he likes getting hit i think rfk likes getting bit by a snake it's it's the only time he feels something it's funny you brought up the bite because i sent you guys that video yesterday from the from an ella uh langley fan account where she's in her you know whatever her texas you know brand new build kitchen and her friend open floor plan y 'all we got an open floor plan and stable so it's super nice a super plenty of room in the kitchen okay go ahead i'm watching the video i didn't watch it right now okay so she's her friend is off camera and her friend has gotten bitten by something and ella has a pack of skull in front of her and she's saying this is what my daddy used to do when we were growing up she takes a pinch of the skull puts it on the white part of of the the of the band-aid and then sticks that to her friend's rear end where the friend has been bitten and apparently the tobacco fixes the sting and i looked in the comments several people are agreeing to this and saying that this is a real thing that people do and i as a person who grew up in the south for you know obviously most of my life i've never heard of this do you think this is a texas thing or do you think i just wasn't southern enough to come into contact with this i think it's it's definitely a folk treatment style tradition of treatments i I don't know how medically sound it is, but it seems like it's more local to Texas than your neck of the woods.

10:23This is something I would really like to try. I just don't want to get bit, and I feel like now the only option would be a zen. I feel like the skull is not laying around quite as much as Tucker's pouches.

10:36Jason Stewart:Well, you could. I mean, I guess when you get the little pack of tobacco in there, it's kind of wet and moist and alive. It's like my Santa Maria Novella potpourri when you open the pack. It reminds me so much of that. It's basically a kombucha scoby. It's just seething with life. But I would say, yeah. Okay, I just looked it up. It says rural Texas, Nebraska, Mississippi. Georgia's on there. It says in the Appalachian South, quote unquote, wet tobacco or tobacco juice on bee stings, wasps, stings, hornets, etc. Is it a recognizable old remedy? something that mama or papa would do chris this is very which is what i'm wondering can i get you know one of my parliament can i empty out a p funk yeah and then throw a couple you know 50 cc's of whatever juice on there will that will that wake up my wet tobacco enough or is it is it dead on arrival i that's a great question once it's dried can you rehydrate this is a question for the kitchen i feel like we got to get barraghane on the phone for this i feel um i've got i want to treat the tobacco like my morels can i reconstitute them he's like well use veal stock but yeah we can get that tobacco back up my question is yeah is this something is i i mean could you squirt a little lemon on it you know what i mean would there be something additive that you could do that isn't in the water family that that would also rehydrate you know what i In the water, family, you could say lemon juice is lemon water, and I would avoid squirting acids right onto that bloody wound.

12:13Jason Stewart:Well, here's what I'm saying. I think it's going to be more of a Crisco, Duke's mayonnaise, a little Hellman on there. I pulled some of my skull out and mixed it up with mayonnaise like it was tuna fish, and I just stuck it on my ass. All of a sudden, my cut was healed. A little deviled ham on there. It should sort you out. A little deviled ham on that sting. You'll be good as new. I love a local regional folkloric remedy like that. I think the closest I got to that was drink seven up when you're sick. Yeah, sure. Even when I was a kid, like what? No. How could that possibly work? Your immune system is destroyed.

12:55Jason Stewart:Let's put 64 grams of sugar onto that. Well, I feel like the California version of this is like, bro, a stingray got me. you got to pee on me. You know, I feel like this is, this is the same thing is that I just, this feels, there's so many movies about surfing and lore around surfing because it's such a sport that connects us with nature, but we don't talk enough about the rattlesnake, you know, the critter stings and how to heal them as urban dwellers. Yeah, I'm watching Blue Crush, North Shore, all these great surf movies, not a lot of critter, critter bite, story arcs going on. That's what I'm saying.

13:29That's what I'm saying.

13:30Jason Stewart:I will use AI technology to write the perfect 90s surf rom-com shred fest script and then you know it's but it's more or less just about different critters being you know biting you and then kind of local remedies jellyfish stingrays small sharks recover after you found a remedy in meemaw's uh you know notepad meemaw doesn't know what to do when i step on that sea urchin does she she ain't never seen shit like that before i gotta go to call davide's grandpa figure out how to do that one i need i need somebody who's got, you know, a nice old English tattoo of the year they were born on their chest.

14:08Jason Stewart:And they're going to sort me out. The only people who can sort me out. Alright, we got to talk about Prattgate, because it seems like the internet. So Interview Magazine did a story with Spencer Pratt. So did Vanity Fair. And in classic form of the internet, everybody is up in arms. Defund Mel Ottenberg. Defund Interview. Cancel your subscription to Vanity Fair. This is unbelievable that they would talk to a political candidate. And I'm once again here to remind you that the word platforming is being misused in 2026. This episode of How Long Gone is brought to you by a new podcast from The Guardian, Stateside with Kai and Carter.

14:50This is covering a lot of our bases, Jason. It's trying to slow down the news and wrestle with the questions we all have about what's happening in the world. And I know you particularly have quite a lot of questions.

15:00Jason Stewart:A lot of questions, but how often? Because we do this podcast three times a week, and that's a sweet spot. How many times do they do? Three times a week. And I have a feeling, just based on the platform and these talking points, that they're maybe going to be covering different stuff than we do. That's just a guess. The Guardian is not some billionaire-owned platform. They're not afraid to say what they want to say, brother. Yeah, Rupert ain't sniffing around in what journalists Kai Wright and Carter Sherman are up to over there at Stateside. But yeah, listen wherever you get your podcasts. You can watch it on YouTube.

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16:56Jason Stewart:That is quince.com slash how long. That'll get you free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com slash how long. i don't think yeah i really think that this comes down to a media literacy issue jason because i don't think people read the story i don't think they realize that they are not that these people aren't uplifting spencer pratt they're not they're not putting him in a king's chair and walking him out to the altar you know this is more of a like we're gonna let this guy hang himself situation you know what i mean it's it's not it's like they don't they're not taking they're not taking beautiful studio portraits of flattering photos of him you know what i mean they got him outside in the fucking sun with three chins and he's saying the the dumb shit that he always says and i i just don't understand that is not platforming that is like doing a timely story and when it's and then the argument is well what about the other candidates guess what the other candidates aren't as interesting i don't think spencer pratt is going to win i don't think he should win i don't think that people that read interview magazine are going to vote for spencer pratt because they saw him answering questions i just i'm so confused by the outrage i really am okay well i've got some ideas and i don't think um the the the person who wrote it ben barna um i don't think that he's trying to ben is not trying to ben is doing his job at interview magazine and and writing stories about things that are happening in our country ben is not a member of the alt-right who's trying to platform a MAGA person.

18:33Jason Stewart:He also doesn't even live in LA, right? He's a New Yorker. Yeah, he's a New Yorker. Canadian, actually. So even less interested. Shout out, Benjamin. But I guess to me, the only difference is the fact that it's interview, it's a little different. You don't feel like it's going to be a fair or a scathing takedown or anything. It's probably going to be a puff piece of some sort. But I think the fact that the photos feel platforming, if it was just an article, with written words and it was a story about the nuances and i didn't read the story but people who did are saying like you know it doesn't necessarily it's not like big upping him it's it's like sort of letting him yeah you know just when you have a when you have a person like that you just hit record and you just write down all the insane shit they say because it's but it's what i find interesting is nathan spencer will dig his own grave but if there weren't photos of him smiling hanging out with local mexicans and i don't think any this would even happen but you have to take photos for a story like what are you supposed to do like you that's what interview does they take photos for every story that's what magazines and newspapers do but i get my point is since nobody's reading the the story myself included we're just sort of going based off of vibes and the vibe of this is this is a smiling picture of spencer pratt and he looks good so it's probably platform but this is my whole problem that's my whole problem you can't comment on a photo when there's a story attached if you don't read the story and i'm i'm saying 90 of these people didn't read the story which is fine if you don't want to read the story and you're so disinterested and you don't want to read it i totally get it i'm not interested in him either the only reason i read it is because the outrage you know what i mean like i'm not yeah but nathan our friend nathan pemberton i was talking to him when i was in la last week he spent three days with spencer for the new york times and did you know and and wrote a story about him and spent all the time with him and they have photos of him too and no one says shit it's just a very confusing because it's the newspaper it's different you know what i mean exactly but at this point i think that we have to understand that politics are culture and they can't be sort of relegated to these these kind of older corners of the media like they're going to especially like i also don't understand how we expect spencer pratt if you're our age you grew up with him as a not a household name but a major celebrity do you know what i mean like if you were our age and you were out in that time we are now like prime voting age we are also the editors and and writers at these publications so i'm not sure how we're expected to ignore this because it is a fascinating story it would be it would be like if if you know let's say you're a 24 year old right now and there's an article about you know six nine running for mayor of new york yeah you're gonna read that shit yeah but i just think i just think that the the part that we keep missing about all this stuff is that like if you are stupid enough for that to work on you then you just if you're stupid enough to vote for spencer pratt and that's your problem that's not the magazine's fault that's your fault like that's not i just don't understand how we've taken any personal agency out of all human beings where it's like oh everybody's so dumb this is going to work on them is the expectation which that that sucks to me well unfortunately you know i think those the the rules have changed and before like When you're saying you can't base your opinions only off of the photos or the vibes of the article without reading the article, unfortunately, nobody plays by those rules anymore.

21:54Jason Stewart:We have moved beyond that. But here's what I'm saying. It's a new world derogatory. But what I'm saying to you is that it's like if this, yeah, I mean, sure. But it's like if that's how we feel, then a magazine would be or a publication would be irresponsible for posting just photos. But if they're posting the article in the photos and you choose not to read the article, that's sort of on you is what I'm saying. Of course. You know what I mean? Like if they were choosing to display it as like look at this hot guy running from air, which no one, you know what I mean? which no one is doing like i said those photos were i'm not going to say on purposely unflattering but i think they were uh unvarnished let's say i don't think those were heavily retouched i think they were on camera flash in the blazing sun you know what i mean i think it's i think it's i don't think they're and now his interview's version of you know doing the work whereas the new york times photo it's a it's a professionally taken photo color balance is all there we've we've removed the the ring light flash from his eyeballs or whatever but he has a sort of stoic look on his face and the headline is is spencer pratt for real you know it asks a question versus like we got a spencer pratt's favorite fish taco spots in la you know the the meat of the article is likely you know not too far away from each other but just those two little tweaks that's not but this is what i'm telling you is that like that is the but that's the difference in publication do You know what I'm saying?

23:19Like, that's the difference. Like, the New York Times and Interview Magazine shouldn't have that much crossover as the way they're presenting people. They're two very different things. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of crossover photographer-wise. So that makes it, you know, that makes it, that's something. But I don't know, man. I'm just sort of like, people are going insane about this in a way where I'm like, dude, just like, don't vote for him. It's all good, dude. like it's it's but i you know i know you're seeing a lot of close friends in la saying they fuck with spencer's policies and some some going even less uh close friends and more public yeah

23:52Jason Stewart:i mean i would say it's it's still more more so people are in team neathia out in public in terms of people in my world and then you know we've got a couple people who play golf that we know are are leaning leaning the other way every single day it changes and it's exciting so i can see why everyone's talking about it and why it's become you know more of a national thing totally totally you know like there's there's an article i read or somebody that i know or like internet friends with about like spencer pratt's merch like him using the lakers because it's like yeah yeah yeah i was i was i was like that sounds really familiar and i googled mom donnie and nicks and it's like an article from a year or two ago and the nicks are asking mom donnie to not use you know steal his logo to make mom donnie nicks hats i mean the the playbook for winning is is the same no matter what in a lot of ways okay well i'm glad that you're able to escape america for just a weekend and you can just only worry yourself with canadian politics of course the important stuff over here i unfortunately i haven't heard any or read any articles about the the spencer pratt tenants in the trees fundraising party with the ai generated um throwback tenants flyer i mean that is that it's one of those things where it's like wow it'd be really cool if one of these interesting magazines went to went to this party and did like a scene report and with cobra snake photos of like who would actually go to you know i'm i'm very curious to see the cross-section of uh of la's worst at that event but who's gonna do that you know but but the thing is like if like i wouldn't want to do that i wouldn't want to like walk in and be like hey i'm only here as a bit i'm just like writing you know no yeah yeah yeah so it's like events like that just happen and then and that's it i mean that that flyer for the tennis of the trees mince and pratt thing is amazing amazing amazing i mean yeah that feels too good to be true as far as like stupidity level do you know i mean the combination of all the things only part of spencer's insane campaign that may have negatively affected it yeah everything else has been just fine the tenants alignment is actually a lot that people are not willing to cross the tenants alignment is worse than him blowing 10 million dollars on crystals like this is somehow worse this is somehow worse ice is fine but i i draw the line at ghb in my vodka so fuck that you win that flyer it's also like one of those things that is perfect i i you want to think it's purposely stupid but then you're like wait i I don't know if it is.

26:31I can't tell.

26:32Jason Stewart:No, it's perfection. That's the problem. Sometimes something is so bad, only AI itself could create what you need. Like humans are too pure of heart to create, to design that flyer the way that it needs to be designed. I mean, it's beautiful from many angles. A thousand writer rips with a thousand teal bucks in their Zelle account could not create something like this. This is too good. This is touched by God. it's too extreme it's too good uh speaking of teal i was i was reading in the news that he people are are cautious and and are are flagging the fact that he seems to have quote-unquote fled america and is living in argentina in buenos aires yeah there's hotter guys there i don't blame him i've i've always wanted to visit buenos aires you know after watching you have after watching bet you have tony bourdain go there um but now fucking teal ruined it now the fucking i'm sure the grinder is all fucking blown out now but now i'm wondering is he gonna like people are like saying you know it's giving nazi vibes fleeing to argentina when you're like a um a gay nazi but are we gonna get teal pesos instead of teal bucks now who's gonna be the first creator that's who starts getting the teal bucks those creators are gonna those creators are gonna be a little less sub stack a little more only fans is my guess okay but a creator is a creator but i mean but i think there's like i think there's two different categories for teal buck like teal bucks means he's investing in your business and then we need another word for it when he's investing in your hole for 45 minutes or whatever you know investing in your hole come on bro because that's not necessary you know like we can't write that off is this a sex worker absolutely not i'm just a ground floor investor in their hole i put in i put in a small i put in a small investment in their hole when they were kind of getting started and i hope to see it you know fully realized i can't wait i have i have a full intent to pay all the capital gains on these capital brains no it's beautiful to it's beautiful to see their hole has vested so early and I'm coming out on top.

28:46Jason Stewart:We're just so excited. We're just so excited. Just so excited. But, you know, because he spends a lot of money on non-business ventures, I'm assuming. So, you know, maybe the, well, we got the teal pesos and then the, you know, the little fun money. Wham! Walking around money, we call that. Oh, is that what we call that? I didn't know. Oh, okay. A little walking around money. Good to know. Yeah, get a little wham in your pocket because you feel naked leaving the house without, you know, $380. and 20s rolled up yeah exactly at 380 you got me 380 is sort of the over under on how much you want your wad to be that's true because anything over 500 especially if it's in 20s it's getting uncomfortable you know i mean it could give you a back problem if you sit on that yeah yeah depending on which which skew of ball mon you have on did you did you see the did you listen to katie perry chief keith because i feel like that's really in your crosshairs i i saw that i saw her i'm the only motherfucker who is interested in hearing that i saw her mobbed out with with with keith in a and they were wearing bait hoodies together and the thing that i saw people talking about most was does this mean that former prime minister justin trudeau met chief keith the over under on that is pretty high keith's like no we've met before actually yeah you don't remember we were smoking out we we blew out the the hotel room at f1 montreal in 2010 it was a ruth ruth Chris Edmonton I think the last time our paths crossed no bro you were at Stampede in Calgary you were just so fucked up you don't remember bro that is that was a fucking movie no I mean I saw them I saw them politicking in the studio where you know Katy Perry is standing very close to his face and you know that he doesn't like people getting so close well you know that he is like on another planet uh you know on a beautiful selection of drugs and you know the song is going to be just awful because i love chief keef and certain era of katie perry's songs there's no way that he's taken the driver's seat and creative directing this tune it's definitely a katie perry song that he's getting paid six hundred thousand dollars to do the most throw away verse on the only the only way he gets off the four-wheeler yeah yeah we have to come come get off the atv that you're driving donuts on inside of an airplane hangar come over here and then do do the worst 16 of all time and then we're gonna put you back on an airplane and katie perry is gonna be like you know treating it like a pokemon car that she just collected i've got a song with chief key i just wonder i just can't figure out what i mean i know this is this is baffling to many katie cats but i can't figure out what it is exactly she is trying to do to get this train back on the tracks because a chief key feature in 2026 does not seem like the way to do that do you know what i mean it doesn't seem like there's one through line that i learned because i read i read a headline saying like they they squash their like decade-long beef so i think maybe in katie's mind this was going to break the internet but it's been so long if i don't know that katy perry and chief heave had beef no one does you know like nick catch dubs might remember it and that's kind of about it yeah i mean you know there's three guys there's three guys i know all of them they're all white guys who are way way better djs than me and they all remember this beef and that's it a cross-section of people who know that yeah it's it's white guys in their 40s yeah totally no there's it's a it's a very very small group of people a small a small but vocal you know small but powerful you know on discogs but you know certain things should not mix i love the beautiful you know kaleidoscope of genres colliding but but kt and keith together no no no it's too far it's too far what why are people can you answer i want to get into um jason territory a little bit but why are people so upset about boards of canada because i boards of canada was always just sort of some like nerdy shit that like some hardcore guys i knew liked you know what i mean obviously it's legendary like i'm familiar with the graphic design language and i've definitely owned those records on vinyl at some point in my life probably but what is the they put out a new album and it seems to be polarizing i but but mostly bad i guess i'm not totally sure yeah mostly bad i think um yeah the new one is called inferno but yeah boards of canada known for late 90s early 2000s kind of ambient electronic experimental shit you know but music has the right to children in 98 was their probably their big one but yeah the new one people are saying that it's just a straight up no bueno weird vocal sounds weird samples and clips sort of okay so it's just okay so it's just weird it's not like all of a sudden we found out this guy's bad it's just basically the music sucks

33:56Jason Stewart:because with boards of canada or our tech or apex twin all these people who make this experimental crazy ambient electronic music they're all kind of trolls they're all mysterious they're all like weird shy introverted freaks so you don't really know like is this album bad on purpose as a joke is it like an artistic statement where do they where do they pitchfork gave it best new music 8.6 okay because you know you if you're a pitchfork writer if you give boards of canada a bad review you know like what's even the point anymore what do we even know it's like giving it's giving taylor swift a bad review you know you just ruin the next 18 months of your life okay okay and boards of canada though it's like a it it felt it always felt pretty niche to me but i'm realizing maybe it wasn't that niche or or it was it was big but niche do you know what i'm saying it's one of those groups or bands or artists where everyone's like i should know enough about this or i should talk like i know enough about it just because everyone else seems to and then maybe with this album people are understanding like oh maybe maybe the the joke is on us the whole time but you know that's why it's kind of fun but also kind of annoying with all these introverted freaks who are like is it real is it a troll am i making fun of you yeah yeah or is that just like my special excuse of like if everything you know if this sucks and it's really bad i can just yeah i play it off as oh what do you oh you guys just don't get it it was a whole thing it was a bit but yeah it's uh most people are saying that it's bad but i think i i scrolled through it um yesterday and you know just like any album nowadays there's like handful of songs that are really nice and good handful of fucking diarrhea oh this is huge for me personally this episode of how i'm gone is brought to you by task rabbit oh baby let me tell you something this is this is not a joke i use task rabbit a lot because i can't do anything you need you need some art hang hung task grab you need it you need a you need a fucking something put together a Got to reach that cheese grater on the top shelf?

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