962. - Chris & Jason

26:38Jason Stewart:He's listed as a business executive. I bet much like Scott Disick, they're maligned in the public for being... But Scott Disick makes a fortune. I bet Corey Gamble low-key is beasting doing something. I'm not saying the Kardashian connection doesn't contribute to that. He was a tour manager for Bieber under Scooter Braun's tutelage. Never mind. I take it back, Queen. Dude, you're tour managing Bieber. That's one of the hardest jobs in the world. That's real shit. that's how you can handle all these chicks um but so we're at this party and and eva chin is there who i know and she's you know she's mentioned before she like i want to introduce you to mark i'm like yeah great let's let's fucking chop it up with mark i go i have a i have an eight minute conversation max with with zuckerberg and mel ottenberg and eva we take a picture and i go talk to other people and I leave, you know, and I'm sort of like, you know, I see all the stuff's going on.

27:35All the glasses are going on. It's, it's part of our world. Obviously I'm not a guy who's going to wear these. I'm not a, I'm not the target customer by any means, but I just, I feel like I went to this because I felt like this is a wild experience to have. And this is sort of my job. But then I was questioning, cause I have this funny selfie of me with, with zuck this funny selfie where i'm wearing the kylie sunglasses that and it's you know he's telling me about how the hinges work and shit or whatever what he told sunberg and i was like this is so fucking funny i think this is so funny and then after thinking about it more i i forget that people don't have like people think this guy is like evil they they put this guy on the level i think a lot of people put him on the level of elon musk it maybe i'm wrong but you're not wrong

28:25Jason Stewart:I mean, maybe not as severe as Elon because he seems to be a little more level-headed and he's able to speak like a human and he's not actively overdosing on ketamine in government buildings. But I think a lot of people are very upset with what Zuck has done to the internet landscape and some irreparable damage to humanity for his financial gain and power. but that's another pod because we're just taking a funny pick well no i mean i think that some of that is true and if it wasn't him it'd be somebody else kind of thing like i just don't i don't think that these i i think this tech stuff is not my under my purview necessarily but i think it's funny to i always find the irony when people are shitting on this guy on the platforms that he owns that and that you use every day all day this goes back to the bezos thing of course bezos is a bad guy but the percentage of you that have canceled your amazon prime subscription is minute i couldn't see it i couldn't see with fucking a magnifying glass yeah you don't like hail hitler but you're still wearing them yeezys but it's just like do i is it like i don't like this is one of the most interesting maybe interesting is wrong word but this is one of the this is a person who's affected our lives maybe more than anyone in in a lot of ways you know what i mean like negatively and positively like his his creations the thing that he's done that he's done are things that have affected the world and maybe the biggest way in like our lifetime for our generation and if i can't chop it up with that guy for five minutes like what what's the point like that's like i i mean you know it's like i don't i don't have any interest in talking to elon muster jeff bezos because that those those guys to me do seem bad and in a way that like it's a smell it's a smell test i just thought it was all really funny and interesting and like this is what we do on how long gone as we do stuff when we talk about it and then i was sort of like oh wow the response to this is actually crazier than i thought and of course these glasses all you know there's all these issues with this shit we're in a surveillance state bob you know i all that shit like i don't really care about that there's truth to it and and that that's just a fact you know but i think that like watching because he did the first interview i guess he's laid low for a while and he hadn't done any interviews so he did this interview for feed me he did the guest lecture series which she does which i've done before which is where people write in questions for the for the subject and she picks the questions from that lot and then the person answers them um so he did that and people are like you know there's there's a newsletter called status like we got a scoop you know mark zuckerberg dodges they don't ask him any hard questions over you know what i mean he does this softball and you know and it's like dude what like what do we think people are doing like what do we really like do you really think mark zuckerberg at this stage is going to do anything that is going to risk or put him at risk like do we really think he's going to go in and let anybody he's you think he's going to go just let anybody ask him whatever he wants i just don't like what's the reality of this i guess why are people so why are people so unable to see the reality of a situation and and not let that play into it i guess is my question yeah i think a lot lot of people who have issues with with zuck or any of these people who are being served softball questions they're thinking like oh well you know if i was there with this person whoever you know from zuck to olivia rodrigo whoever is being interviewed a lot this week if i was there i'd be asking them the real hard questions i'd be asking about this yeah but you know you're you're not and the reason why this person is asking any questions at all is because we've been vetted and we had a convo before that you know i'm going to talk about some stuff i'm not going to talk about other stuff and that goes across the board for anything for when wemby is being interviewed if he's going to you know work with a you know coca-cola he's like i don't i'm a basketball player let's talk about basketball i don't want to talk about this bullshit you're allowed to choose what you want to talk about when you want to talk about it and we need to know that there are differences between you know a courtroom fucking deposition interview and uh you know let's have fun and like talk about your favorite watch and stuff emily's newsletter is is not the new york times it's not 60 minutes no no i mean no pre-barry right it's not the guardian we're talking about more fun questions we're asking gwyneth paltrow about you know what her favorite whatever pajamas as are and we're asking somebody about makeup routines and whatever it's not like what are we going to do about well this is this is my whole issue though is that people think because you have a platform that you should be asking those questions and those are two different things like if you own the platform you choose the tone that you want to take that is your decision and and if you gain a large audience from that why on earth would you change your tone because of the person that's appearing that day you know it's like that's that's not what people are coming to for do i i don't i just think that if those questions are going to be asked they should be asked by somebody who has been covering whatever the tech world for 30 years for the new york times or the wall street journal or whatever and that is the conversation they will have i i just i'm i it's just so baffling to me that like that's what's expected all the time now and it's like i don't think anybody was asking whoa vicky hard questions you know like let's let's uh He's not fluent in English, so that one doesn't work out so well.

33:58Jason Stewart:No, I'm kidding. I think the main issue, and we'll talk about Lil Vic, I think people have a lot of issue when you have somebody like Azuc who, like we were saying, he's not Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos level of evil billionaire in the world, but he is a light version of that. He's the Coke Zero version of doing bad stuff. and to sort of have a fluffy, you know, superhumanizing, fun, little kind of chit-chat thing, your integrity could be taken into account because you're so willing to, or you so want to be talking to a famous person, whoever it may be, that you're willing to sort of, you know, flog them and fluff them and kind of jiggle the balls a little bit.

34:52Jason Stewart:Not that we're not guilty of the same thing. Well, this is what I'm getting at. It's like, obviously, part of the reason I went to this event is because we would like to have Mark Zuckerberg on How Long Gone. And that could happen. You know what I mean? That's not out of the question. That being said, we don't let people see questions. We don't do that. And I wouldn't do that for Mark Zuckerberg. Like I don't, it's not, it's not that important to me, but to shoot the shit with Zuck for the reasons that I outlined earlier, that's like what we, that's why we do this job. That's why we have this podcast.

35:25You know what I mean? Is like to talk to people like that about stuff that might seem innocuous or silly or stupid to people that want hard news. and that's just like that's what i guess i'm that's what i'm saying it's like once we started blurring those lines i think it became i mean it's partly because you know they think joe rogan you know influenced the election which he did to some extent but it's just like that's the part i get lost on is like all these guys do bad stuff but so do we they're just doing it at a very large scale yeah and that's why it's so damaging to society and you said the lines are blurred and

35:59Jason Stewart:they are but i feel like the our our job as you know funny interviewees or whatever media culture talking heads or whatever content creators you are you know there's a vast spectrum of topics and subject matters and things that you could tackle that are between you know what's your morning routine king or like you know what tell me about your favorite watch and then on the other side you know let's talk about teen suicide rates and you know cambridge analytica and you know misinformation spreading or whatever there's so much in between where you can kind of like find some real humanity learn some things about somebody maybe learn how they thought one way and they change their mind as they've gotten older you know i i feel like that with um like people used to ask us who is our dream guest and we don't really have a good answer i used to say kanye for a while not because i want to platform him not because i want to humanize him not because i want to attack him but because like wouldn't it be a good challenge as somebody who does this for a living you know somebody who interviews people and has conversations for a living to have a new conversation with somebody like this that doesn't involve you know the two spectrums that are so easy that doesn't involve like what's up with the hitler stuff and you know dude you're so awesome run away is a good song you know full glaze fest yeah there's an in-between and that's yeah let's figure out those other parts of zuck's brain that haven't been discovered that's your job as a journalist but i think that's the that's the term that is so scary and that's why i think this stuff has gotten so confused is now person who asks question with large audience is considered a journalist and i don't think those two things are necessarily the same i would never call myself a journalist i don't think you would either and i think that's it i'm a service journalist no i'm a role model that's a two that's but that's what i'm saying it's like because someone has a shitload of followers and eyeballs that doesn't make them a journalist that doesn't like we i think this goes back to like media literacy like we as the audience need to understand the difference between those two and expect one from one and expect the other from the other.

38:17You know what I mean? And that's the issue. I just felt a lot of, because I mean, to be completely honest with you and the audience, I also, before all this happened, I had an offer to do something with Meta Glasses that was pretty well paying. And I said, no, because I was like, that just doesn't feel like me. I wouldn't do that because I don't think I would wear these glasses and it doesn't feel like the right thing but going to meet mark zuckerberg and see the glass like see the new glasses and whatever like i don't what's the i just don't understand what the like emily asking about his favorite watch or us asking about his fucking you know what bones he's broken to an mma and the time he wore a face full of fucking sunscreen is like that's fine i got i just it's fine you know what i mean i just think it's fine yeah yeah i just think i I think it's all because these people, I mean, I just think, again, the word platforming, journalist, all these words have been totally misconstrued and applied to the wrong places.

39:14And it makes everything feel crazy. It makes everybody act insane.

39:19Jason Stewart:How much was the meta bag? I'll bleep it. I'm not. No, I'm not saying that. I don't trust you. Smart not to trust me. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. But again, I'm saying this as a guy who uses every meta service possible happily every single day of my life. I'm the guy who sells a Facebook account. I don't give a shit. That's not like this. And you've never used Marketplace once, just to be clear? No, never used Marketplace before. I just check it out, man. I just click around. That's my job. Use it to see how many kids my old high school fatties use. Exactly. Exactly. But I just think that everyone, and then we got this Can Lion stuff going on.

39:58And it's like, I got to watch a video of fucking Scott Galloway on a motorboat. in the south of france telling me how creators are taking over the world and it's just it's just sort of like man all of this stuff is so confusing and bad and it's just like i don't even know what i i barely know what to think like can lion is is something i don't care like no one has talked about this much ever like ever ever and it's and i hate to give scott credit but he's right it's because all these fucking content creators they're hosting panels for agencies and talking about themselves and their work and they're the ones documenting and they're the ones distributing it

40:36Jason Stewart:can line didn't have to do anything and can the film festival you know as a as a consumer who's you know stuck at home on the on the rowing machine looking at my phone all i'm seeing is okay here's a bunch of movies that i don't get to see because i'm not there and i'm probably never going to see because they're just like random you know foreign films that are whatever critic darlings you have a bunch of celebrities who are trying to actively hide from photos they don't they don't want to be there nobody's you know and then it's all about standing ovations for the 11th year in a row how they're getting longer it's boring nobody gives a fuck anymore and can lion we got fucking mumford and sons hopping up on the dj i mean i mean all that is i mean i'm joking but it's like the can is like it's become so exclusive that nobody even cares anymore it's just like okay great now there's this actor and he's going to take a photo and his movie you're never going to see got an ovation for 11.9 minutes and great and but then you go over to can lion here's all the people you know who actively want to be there they're sharing it they're talking about it and it's it's more of an inclusive thing and that maybe that's the problem no that's definitely exclusive that's definitely line is too inclusive That's totally the problem.

41:57But I also think that like, once again, people love to forget that we, for better or worse, live in a capitalist society. And if your job is to get sponsors to get eyeballs on this, this festival that you throw, then you are going to let Spotify do whatever the fuck they want, because Spotify is going to write you a check that numbs your eyeballs. Like it's just, that's just what it is, you know? And it's like, but I just, I just, it's really, it's, it's look, we live in a difficult time, I will say, because everything is sort of bad. but the only way to get through is to kind of think it's funny but some people don't accept

42:31Jason Stewart:that is kind of where my head's at yeah we've been laughing our way through life's pains for decades now at this point but we we talked about before how you know with with marty supreme how people are more interested in the marketing campaign and rollout than the actual film itself so it only makes sense that you know the marketing and advertising wing of can is becoming more popular and it's the same thing yeah all this stuff yeah it's like the dorks have taken over across the board the dorks have taken over and i think that is because the because now our i think our celebrities are fucking asshole basketball players like wimby or tech guys those are the celebrities now like of course there's actors and actresses and blah blah blah but the they don't have like an actor and actress can affect like foreign policy you know what i mean it's like that elon musk is literally in the white house doing a fucking bump a cat with his feet on the desk you know it's like that is that it's a different thing and that's why he's bad it's like it really affects something whereas like the the you know the the timothy chalamet woman getting in a fight with a non-binary french person outside of a hotel about connor's story like that's fucking funny but that doesn't affect our lives at all no there's no there's no downside to that there's no data scraping there's no fucking betting on everything that happens in our lives it's literally harmless to everyone and that's it's fascinating but that's i i think those are the that's kind of the binary we have now it's either like evil guys doing evil or the dumbest shit you've ever possibly seen that makes you laugh and you can't believe it exists what a great segue to talk about whoa vicky all right this episode of how long gone is brought to you by revolve i don't know if you've been paying attention jason but guys really be caring about how they dress and how they look luckily revolve man is on the internet super easy and it's stocked with some of our favorite brands like like ralph lauren and something maybe you like fear of god essentials as well as our friends palms of course and it's not fast fashion it's not stuffy it's a sweet spot between looking intentional and not looking like you tried too hard good luck uh new arrivals drop twice a week with free two-day shipping and next day options plus returns are actually easy yeah it's true and that two-day shipping really is nice it really does happen i've used it a few times and it is surprising how nice things show up and you get excited to try them on.

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48:42And I do think I understand why she is captivating to people. Like in some regard, like her, her story is pretty crazy. I don't know what poetry has to do with that, but everybody has to find their medium.

48:52Jason Stewart:So, so this is a testament to her good PR as to why we have so many, you know, think pieces and cover stories in major publications about how this, like you said, an ESL person who just tweets about how gay people are wrong in the eyes of God, you know, has a poetry reading full of gay guys. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, and this is getting more coverage than, you know, Clive Davis passing away. It's just internet shit. Like, she's been on the internet for a long time. We've seen a lot of ups and downs. And now she's a Christian who has poetry, but she's still a thought. It's confusing. But yeah, I mean, you know, it's like a lot of people are glazing, you know, and I'm sort of like, obviously, again, this is a low stakes thing, but it is pretty surprising.

49:40It is pretty surprising to see this in Vanity Fair and Rolling Stone and all of these publications. But again, if the battle is for eyeballs, Woe Vicky has those and that's what we all need.

49:51Jason Stewart:Yeah, and I forgot who else was talking about this, but maybe it was a podcast. I remember, sorry, if I'm talking about it and I didn't shout you out, but about how these sort of niche-ish Twitter or social media celebrities, these people that you have maybe been following for years. you know and like whoa vicky has you know a hundred thousand something followers she's not huge but she's been on twitter for you know 10 years writing this bullshit and yeah this person was saying like if you see somebody like that or even a more niche person some random person with 5 000 followers whose tweets you've been following for 10 years versus like a true celebrity in public you're going to be more captivated by that niche twitter celebrity just because they're a part of you yeah and what you're doing and you and you sit there and you look at their social media engagement and you wonder how is it you know what you know people are like is this person just like an idiot savant like a little b kind of person where like yes they're really bad people but every 17th tweet is just like pure poetry just like amazing soup something really funny or really wry or or just like whatever it is or do they have you know a team of gay guy interns who are writing all these really funny tweets are this are the typos intentional or i believe i believe in this case that whoa vicky is authentic i think she's doing this herself i think the typos are because she don't type good i i actually believe all of that to be true but i think you make a great point it's like for a certain kind of person whoa vicky seeing whoa vicky buying you know fake chanel bags on canal street is bigger than seeing dicaprio bellying up to the bar you know what i mean because because she feels like a real person because she's existed in their lives on a screen that feels more real than the the movie or television if i if i'm walking on the street on the left side Ayo a debris from the bear and on the right side of the street Amanda Bynes I'm looking at Bynes I'm more I'm clocking Bynes that's but it is a really that's no slight to Ayo friend of the show that no that's a good point though it really is it's like that really is what it comes down to that these people like someone like this especially if you're like a logged on you know Tumblr shorty this person has been famous since your brain was developing and so to see be able to go see them somewhere free of charge you know read their poetry or whatever it is there's a level of starstruck that is maybe undeserved but still that you can't you can't say that like that that experience is is uh exclusive to everyone you know the same way if i saw you know if i see fucking you know the singer from the jayhawks at the fucking coffee shop most people don't give a shit but chris does we all have our whoa vickies yeah you said there go Brendan Flowers from a band called The Killers.

52:47Jason Stewart:When's Brendan coming on the pod, by the way? Solo album out soon? Dude, I've had the solo album for like a month now, and it is really up my street. It's good. We're working on it, hopefully. Fingers crossed. I mean, I've been trying to... Brendan Flowers has been a since day one project for us. Well, for me. I won't throw you under the bus with me, but... I'm here for you. New single comes out. There's a lot of... I feel like the wife of the husband who's really into fishing and we were going to go on the fishing trip together. It's not for me, but I still get pleasure out of it seeing you have such a good time.

53:21There's a lot of good. We get a new Phoebe Bridgers song tomorrow. We get a new Brandon Flowers song tomorrow. There's all kinds of new shit. We got Chanel beads. We got all kinds of new shit coming out, bro. We're about to be eating, actually.

53:37Jason Stewart:Beed? What is this somebody called who makes beads? What do you mean? You know, like a beadsman. you're talking about me when i was 14 i'm trying to come up with a stand name for chanel beads listen oh oh oh oh oh like how uh like how somebody called army hammer you know hammerheads are gonna eat this summer or whatever or racist i see what you're saying i just want there to be a good name for the chanel beads stand let me think about this let's let's let's let's come back and do this yeah damn there's a new yeah the new brennan weedle came out the new blonde shell came out there's new this is lorelei coming out it's really it's guitar season is real bro okay a bead maker or a person who's crafting with beads is typically called a beader so all right put on your wife little on the nose we're going to see that we're going to see the show so yeah those are going to eat this june slash july got chanel beaters that's our that's a that's our discord group and speaking of chanel thank god none of these luxury fashion brands flew me out to Paris this week because boy does it look hot out there.

54:40Jason Stewart:Shout out to all of our friends who are wearing shorts in public for the first time. If I see one more person posting a screenshot of the weather when they don't need to be there for any business, unless you are getting paid to be there, you can't post about the weather. No, you can't post about the weather. It's too many. Honestly, my timeline is unbelievable. I did see someone today, though, posting how much it would cost to leave early on Delta One on their close friends, which I did like. He knows who he is. He's not listening to this, but he knows who he is, and it was very funny. But yeah, I mean, I think it's 104 degrees in Paris, and you went there to go to parties, and now you're like, damn.

55:17Jason Stewart:It's like 104 degrees. What are we going to do? Let's go eat some duck fat steak. I would love to stand in the street for four hours. Yeah, I mean, when you really think about it, it's like when you see what the models are having to wear in this heat, that's who I really feel for. All of the plastic jeans that are meant to look synthetic, all of the Loewe textured latexes, that's tough. To be fair, though, the fellas are probably eating out there because you know these chicks ain't wearing much. You know what I mean? If you're a fella, put on your jorts and your fucking wife beater and sit outside the Emily Dawn Long showroom and just let them come to you, bro.

55:55You ain't got to do nothing.

55:56Jason Stewart:Well, you said the jorts and the wife, Peter, but there seems to be a bit of a protest from the fellas who are saying like, we are in sundress season across most of the globe, but all of the shorties are literally wearing denim shorts from Walmart and a tasteful whatever, Haley Williams tea or something like that. you know so so the fellas are not eating and this is going to drive more pornography use ladies get those sundresses this is you can put shorts on under the sundress like you're in black pink or something what if i what if i said to you what if i but what if maybe this is something this is more sinister is this to me this could be a sign that tits are back you know what i mean because in it with with the jorts or the basketball shorts or the lacrosse shorts or the adidas soccer shorts, usually those are paired with some sort of see-through top.

56:54You know what I mean? Whereas the sundress, to me, always felt like something that was accentuating the rear end a little more.

57:01Jason Stewart:Wow. Can you tell which one of us is from Atlanta? No, I'm sheeing. Okay, so what you're saying is, I mean, wishful thinking. I think you have a good attitude and a positive. I'm trying to spin it. I'm trying to spin it. It's a silver lining on a JNCO cloud. but you're saying we're bullish on the breast we're bullish on breast after years of ass after years of ass I think it's at least we're reaching a more equilibrium you know we're reaching more equal point I would say it's Juicy J's memoir title after years of ass actually not him he a faker but you know real ass cutter Lamar Odom yeah something like that I also wanted to yeah so ladies you know if we're gonna do the jorts on the bottom give the fellas a little something up top.

57:47Yeah, that's all. That's all. That's all. Especially when it's hot outside. It's better for you. It's better for us.

57:51Jason Stewart:It doesn't have to be a Skims nipple shirt. No. It doesn't have to be just like a full mesh. It doesn't have to just be an upside down bikini so the titties look sideways. You don't have to go that far. But just don't have it Billie Eilish on top. Just don't go Billie Eilish on top. Whatever you do, don't do the Hermes scarf tied as a top. Nothing worse than that. Don't get the Rough Riders 3XL tee, okay? You got to pick one. Funny Twilight tea, nothing. You know, I want to say the vintage T-shirt community is also eating because Zendaya wore vintage Spider-Man tea and nothing else on the red carpet with the lubes.

58:28Period. So I want to shout out.

58:29Jason Stewart:I just love Chris Black saying a vintage Spider-Man tea. I'm just glad that, look, Westside. For a fashion credit. Unfortunately, I did see Westside Gunn is doing a Saucony or a Brooks running shoe that is Spider-Man themed, which that doesn't. doesn't i don't love that uh but the the zendaya big shirt is doing a spider-man shoe spider-man look it up look it up oh i don't know these joints kind of hard though they got a there's a scorpion on the back spider-man is only in quotes it is not official spider-man here but they're not no what you know west side gun ain't paying for the ip the spider-man ip ain't going up to buffalo but i not to be confused with rapper webby zendaya looked beautiful in the t-shirt i honestly thought it was a very cool i like when people this is happening more and more now that you know obviously like the stylist is going to find the vintage thing that relates to the film or the tv show and i think it's cool i think it's i mean it's more interesting your man it's just more interesting than like oh here's another um full look from xyz designer you know what i mean like it's it's a little it's a little more fun is this law roach yeah this is law from the mind of law are we coming Luxury Law was at the meta thing, as you can imagine.

59:44Jason Stewart:I can just imagine the fucking cunt off that you two must have had. I didn't. Like going to hold the door open for him and then letting go of it at the last minute. Oops. Oh, no. I didn't even ask him which flat iron he uses. I kept it to myself. I kept it pressing when Law was in my orbit. Did you catch the name of the horse who grew this hair for you, honey? It looks beautiful. I'll say that. But yeah, the vintage t-shirt. but I mean yeah dude it's hot in Paris and don't jump in the river this is when the conversation comes up once again of like you know oh air conditioning so bad it's American you guys are fat blah blah blah yeah I bet you I bet right now you wish you could fucking put down that corked Barolo and get in some fucking AC that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying now speaking of Paris Fashion Week let's talk about Pharrell's red vans look i say this all the time there are probably five shoe silhouettes that are the baseline of shoes and everything else has vans authentics or eras converse chuck taylor jack purcell new balance 990 993 and air force one obviously maybe we'll do a wallaby clark in there yeah a clark yeah that's not technically a sneaker but a wallaby is definitely you know so it's like i This is what designers have done for decades.

1:01:09The Celine shoe that everybody's freaking out about is a fucking repeto. You know what I mean? Pharrell doing his version of a Vans and Vans having fun with it on social media, that's just great for everybody.

1:01:21Jason Stewart:I even got an email from Converse yesterday with Red Low Top All Stars just being like, we also have Red Shoes. I just think people maybe don't realize that Pharrell doing this is an homage to Vans and van sales are probably 10x since this shoe came out. So it's like everybody, if you can't afford the vans, which most people can't, or excuse me, if you can't afford the LV, then you go get the vans. I don't know. I just think it's, I don't see an issue here really. And that was, I will say, the clothes don't do anything for me, but that was one of the coolest fashion show sets I've ever seen. Yeah.

1:01:58Jason Stewart:Unreal. That seems to be the opinion of every single person in the world. Unreal. um yeah the the beautiful set you know i would say if apple take note that's a it was a great job but the clothes just look like golf wang for older people yeah for sure which is fine i mean i think that's not bad not bad yeah that's that manageable but i think that the um tyler hit first but i i do think it's interesting that he premieres music during the show and it's really it's it's crazy because it feels like a real sign of like the the sort of how dormant hip-hop is. It's like he premiered, I think, three new songs that he produced, one with Quavo, one with Lil Baby, and maybe one with someone else, and I haven't heard anybody talk about it at all.

1:02:41Like that is not part of the conversation at all.

1:02:43Jason Stewart:I didn't even know that happened at all. And also, if I own Louis Vuitton, am I like, you're like using the company platform a little too much? Well, that's why they hired him. They're happy to gain access to this throwaway Quavo song that no one's ever going to listen to. versus, you know, whatever, I'm going to do this really ethereal techno mix. Yeah, I mean, I would rather hear that. My model's stomping. Like, unless you get the goat, unless you get somebody really, you know, I don't need to hear the Fred again soundtrack, but that's another conversation. But like, you know, if you can get the goat to do the soundtrack and it's ethereal fucking dance music, cool.

1:03:20But if you have Pharrell at your fingertip, one of the greatest ever living producers, you got to let him take his shot, no matter what. Like, who cares?

1:03:28Jason Stewart:I mean, I guess. but I mean do you do that for Jay-Z as well or do you say like hey maybe you play fucking grinding instead play one of your good ones instead of the new one with fucking party next door and you know don't come from P &D bro don't come from P &D like that you know the song of the summer what they're saying that new young Miami spend that D-A-T if you haven't heard this This and Shebang are going head-to-head in the streets for Song of the Summer. I told you Shebang is the one, not your little Janice. I think Janice numbers are actually bigger, but I think Shebang is more of a cultural movement.

1:04:10Jason Stewart:I'll take movement over numbers. Spin that, though. I got motion. It's for the scammers and get-money bitches, so you'll like it. That's sort of how I think of you. Yeah, and it's apparently in conjunction somehow with four shooters only. So, okay. Is that a producer or is that just a movement? You know, I'm gonna guess it's probably a t-shirt line for drug dealers. Okay, well that could also be a producer. You know what I mean? Like they could do all. I also, I don't know if you saw this, but I think it might finally be time for me to purchase a guitar. Who's going to play it? Johnny Marr Auction.

1:04:52Oh. 100 Guitars.

1:04:54Jason Stewart:Oh. Like shit like I wrote the queen is dead on this shit. That one I'm not going to be able to afford, of course. Okay, the Johnny Marr collection. So you're saying you might be able to pull up and get a cheaper one? I could get an Epiphone. I could get a hollow body, something light. I can get you an Epiphone today for$12 ,500. You can drive off the lot today in the Epiphone. No capo included, but we can get you out of here. We got the Rickenbacker 60 to 80. What do we got for like five? We got anything for five? okay we got the uh the hollow body es 355 that one she going one to 150 that's a juicy little i mean that's that's a guitar that's gonna go high regardless of the mar uh okay we got an ugly kind of green telly 20 to 30 we got a gibson acoustic 20 to it doesn't look like it's going under 20 to 30 okay okay that's fine you can get the epiphone casino for 20 okay so i gotta put a little i gotta put a little group together to buy in on one of these things wait wait wait we got a fender okay well this one is eight to twelve okay looks pretty nice it's a little um kind of dijon jaguar oh but it's priced like made in mexico we're gonna have to i don't want to get two in the weeds and then also we've got um another jaguar this one's kind of a cream colored sparkle and that is eight to twelve thousand i sent that to you either of those would look handsome of the samsung flat screen i think i would go dijon if i had a gun to my head this is yeah it's such an interesting i i mean johnny mar definitely doesn't need money i feel like he i feel like he might much like no i think he might be in my position where his wife is like he sells 80 guitars for an average of 40 grand each like you know that's a tidy little sam yeah Yeah, but I'm saying I think this is the kind of shit where his wife is like, all right, bro, you got 200.

1:06:52We got to get rid of 100. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, this shit has taken over your life. Like, it's OD. You're 70. Like, what are we doing?

1:06:59Jason Stewart:Yeah, the kids need school. It's crazy there's no amps because I would have definitely. A little fender. Oh, one of those little guys that you have to use the DI for? That'd be nice as like a little side table. Chris, don't be talking about a little DI box. A little fender twin? A little fender twin as a side table? A little fender twin. All right. Well, lastly, because of the musical connection, I wanted to talk about Taylor Swift, the wedding. People are mad that she's getting married in New York City on the 4th of July. I still think that's interference. Plogging up the streets. But also, doesn't everyone leave New York on the 4th of July?

1:07:38I mean, it's one of those classic cases where, like, everyone that lives there leaves or wants to leave, but everyone else comes. You know what I mean?

1:07:45Jason Stewart:that so it's how many people you know when everyone is like this wedding is inconveniencing me for whatever reason it is like why is this happening like the i remember the game five of the of the knicks um finals there was like weddings a bunch of weddings that weekend and people were like having to decide between going to their like cousin's wedding or watching game five at a at a b-dubs is there are there going to be a lot of people in new york who are like i was really planning on going to turks and cake maldives or just the hamptons this weekend and now i got to stick around in the city on the fucking fourth of july like a plebeian you know is that going through some of these folks's brains i still think this is all an interference i all i still think this is completely she's getting married in rhode island and maybe there's a party or something i i know that she is a swiss cheese brain but getting married at madison square garden is one of the corniest things a human being i i have to give her more credit than that i have to until it's true i have to believe it that is not yeah but also what's what's worse getting married in msg or faking that you're getting married as like a psych out to the public to do a crazy well i actually i don't think it's i don't think it's necessarily a I think it'll get used.

1:09:04Maybe she's having a concert for the wedding party and all. You know what I mean? She's got fucking...

1:09:08Jason Stewart:What if that was where they had the viewing party, like where San Antonio all goes to the stadium even though the game's in New York? I could see it being like Antonoff and the fucking bleachers band and everybody gets up and sings a song situation. If you're Taylor Swift, you can't do that at Electric Lady. You got too many people for that. And happy birthday Rachel Antonoff. Heard it was a great great fiesta yeah um anyway shout out to all those cookie kids congrats on your marriage and uh r.i.p to big mama trash can the jp morgan employee who was fired apparently i heard that she was like somebody said she was she worked at the infatuation and then after they are acquired yeah they twisted it to be her she's a jp morgan executive she looks she looks like she works at the infatuation if you know what i'm saying um what's your beat grilled cheeses got it mostly just empanadas actually just cheese empanadas do you remember when do you remember macaroni and cheese was peaking that was kind of my thing the bacon one especially i kind of was on the front lines of that movement i wrote a book about bacon macaroni and cheese food trucks 2007 it got a little buzz r.i.p also to clive davis the legend problematic legend who came out is by at 80 and thank you to everyone who sent me that and said ha ha ha you know referencing that that's my future so that's that's your equivalent of when people are like yo jeff bezos didn't he didn't get he was poor until 43 you still got plenty of time or whatever you know like yeah this athlete didn't go pro yeah maybe i do have time to clive didn't start sucking until he was 80 so you got it you still got a chance big bro he didn't start he didn't admit to start sucking until he was 80 when he needed a little that's true you know a little compassion going his way remember when we saw remember when we went to that he should have he should it's good that he's dead not to be a hater we were at la dolce vita in beverly hills me you paulie and al i think when that restaurant opened guess who had to bring their dog to a sexy little italian restaurant we saw Clive struggling through that restaurant and I was starstruck.

1:11:20I really was. He had like a walker and a couple people with him and a little tiny dog at a Beverly Hills Italian restaurant at 10pm and I was like, only Clive could do that. Only Clive could do that.

1:11:31Jason Stewart:Only Clive can do it. Rest in piss, CD. Rest in piss. Alright, thank you guys for listening. HowLongGone.com is the website and we'll talk to you next week.

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