984. - Chris & Jason

17 Aug 2026 · 57 min · 29 chapters

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In short

Wedding DJ culture and finding “cool” music-forward DJs; then a wide-ranging discussion of New York Times pieces on fashion/“dressing like shit,” music/pop-culture resurgences, body/weight-shaming in media, celebrity trivia, travel/airplane rules (FaceTime), and tech/infrastructure annoyances (Wi-Fi dead zones, potholes, heated driveways). They also discuss Nicole Kidman’s comments about learning makeup/hair at “trans clubs,” and the Rolling Loud movie starring Owen Wilson.

Guests

Chris and Jason (hosts). Jason and Chris describe themselves as content creators and frequent attendees of weddings; they also reference working with DJ services and personal travel/NYC life.

Key claims

Good wedding DJs are rare; Dart Collective DJs are “actual musicians,” use vinyl, and have styling support. Harry Styles audiences split between informed fans and “old-bitch” backlash. Opinion pieces about fashion/young people are “low stakes” but get attention. Savannah Guthrie’s weight-loss questions to Chrissy Metz are framed as irresponsible. Nicole Kidman’s “trans clubs” story is treated as plausible but debated. FaceTime on planes should remain restricted to avoid constant disruption.

Notable examples

Shania Twain’s resurgence at Harry Styles shows; Thomas Morton (NYT) fashion opinion; Chrissy Metz on Savannah Guthrie; Nicole Kidman in British Vogue; Rolling Loud movie trailer (Owen Wilson, Travis Scott, Matt Rife, kid actor Christian Convery); Starlink/Verizon Wi-Fi extenders; Karen Bass pothole video; Williamsburg Bridge bike exit pothole; heated sidewalks/driveways in Aspen/Canada.

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Chapters

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Sunday Plans

1:23 to 2:14

Chris shares his Sunday routine and weekend plans.

AI and Trends

2:14 to 3:19

The hosts reflect on Sea Ranch trending and AI-related discussions.

Shania Twain's Resurgence

3:19 to 4:08

Discussion about a New York Times article on Shania Twain's comeback.

Harry Styles and Openers

4:08 to 4:59

Exploring the dynamics of concert openers and audience reactions.

“She's been, she's been embraced by every single person except the crowd at any Harry Styles show, according to my algorithm.”

Fashion Critique

4:59 to 6:16

The hosts dissect an opinion piece on modern fashion choices.

“Dude, that's the beauty of our world, Jason.”

Generational Fashion Divides

6:16 to 9:03

Debate on fashion between generations and the cultural implications.

“But otherwise, you're getting off scot-free.”

Niche Culture and Trends

9:03 to 10:46

Discussion on the role of niche cultural references in media.

Peacocking for Careers

14:01 to 14:48

Exploring the shift in motivation for self-presentation in today's culture.

“And now we're peacocking for like a career as a third wave creator.”

Peacocking for Careers

15:55 to 17:16

Exploring the shift in motivation for self-presentation in today's culture.

“We avoid the doctor because we're immature and pathetic.”

Obesity Rates and Media Representation

17:25 to 18:16

Discussing how media portrays obesity and its implications.

“Which is very similar to when you see the local news report about like obesity rates going up and they just go to Disneyland and just cut everyone off at the neck.”
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Chrissy Metz and Body Image

18:17 to 19:15

Analyzing the conversation around body positivity and celebrity expectations.

“I mean, I was listening to Tim Dillon this morning.”

The Role of Media in Body Politics

19:16 to 20:38

Understanding the impact of media scrutiny on personal health journeys.

Nicole Kidman's Unique Influences

20:39 to 21:44

Exploring Nicole Kidman's claims about her early experiences with fashion.

“on TV is why she didn't say what she wanted to say.”

Debating Nicole Kidman's Story

21:45 to 24:32

Examining the plausibility of Kidman's experiences in the 1980s.

“It is absolutely irresponsible and shame on Guthrie.”

Nicole Kidman's Evolution and Impact

24:33 to 28:00

Analyzing how Kidman's past relationships shaped her public persona.

“But maybe her homies that really helped her out.”

Watching Movies on Planes

28:00 to 29:06

The hosts discuss their recent experiences with in-flight entertainment and technology.

“The only time I turn it on is to see, I turn the screen on to see how much time is left in the flight and then turn the screen off again three or four times depending on the length of the flight.”

Bluetooth and Air Travel

29:06 to 30:27

A conversation about the new Bluetooth technology for in-flight entertainment and its implications.

“You just open it up, you say, okay, one hour and 47 more minutes, all right.”

The Etiquette of Facetiming on Flights

30:27 to 31:59

Debating the appropriateness of making phone calls during flights and its potential consequences.

Starlink for Travelers

31:59 to 33:58

Discussion about the practicality and costs of Starlink for internet access while traveling.

“Maybe that's why you like flying so much because it's the most public space that still has rules set up.”

Living with Connectivity Issues

33:58 to 35:24

Hosts share their experiences and frustrations regarding internet connectivity in urban settings.

“but they've also sent some sort of something for me to place, like an extender of some kind, which is crazy to need an extender in a thousand square foot apartment.”

The Challenges of Home Maintenance

35:24 to 36:35

Exploring the difficulties of home maintenance, especially in challenging locations.

Public Infrastructure and Potholes

36:35 to 37:40

Analyzing how pothole repairs reflect on city governance and public services.

“And then she was saying the next day, Karen sent somebody out.”

Heating Innovations in Homes

37:40 to 39:44

The hosts discuss modern heating solutions in homes and their practicality.

“Well, one of Zoran's big victories early on was fixing this, I guess, notorious pothole slash bump where you get off the Williamsburg Bridge on a city bike.”

Heating Innovations in Homes

41:48 to 42:12

The hosts discuss modern heating solutions in homes and their practicality.

“You've heard us on How Long Gone talk about BetterHelp for eons.”

Rolling Loud Movie Discussion

42:50 to 46:24

Chris and Jason discuss the newly released trailer for the Rolling Loud movie.

“Can you explain to me can you explain Remind me, just from your quick watch of the trailer, what do you think happens and what on earth is Owen Wilson doing?”

San Francisco's Comeback Story

46:25 to 49:36

A conversation about the potential revival of San Francisco and its cultural significance.

“who's like a buff, like action movie stuntman kind of guy, like Black Panther and Fast and Furious kind of guy, but he plays the gnarly security guard.”

Brunch and Dining Experiences

49:37 to 56:00

Chris shares his recent brunch experience and critiques the dining options in NYC.

“I'm not doing a conspiracy theory that that's what happened.”

Food Adventures in NYC

56:00 to 57:24

Discovering favorite dishes and restaurant experiences in New York City.

“Actually, I will say the Balthazar omelet is a great option, and it's a fat boy.”

Reflections on Diane von Furstenberg

57:24 to 59:16

Exploring the impact and legacy of Diane von Furstenberg through art.

“Bro, Alex and I both, I was like, damn, I knew she was fine, but my God, Andy really painted her in a beautiful light.”
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Transcript

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0:00Jason, we're at the age where we've attended a lot of weddings, not only our own, but friends, family, etc., etc. And the through line, unless they hire you, is shitty music.

0:10Jason Stewart:Yeah, the cross-section of people who can DJ a wedding well and people who are cool, very small. So much that you'd have to throw a dart at a dartboard and hit a bullseye just to find them. And luckily we did, Chris. Thank God. And Dart works with actual musicians and artists, many of whom have their own careers and tour in bands like Leon Bridges, Taylor Swift, The Dare, Sabrina Carpenter. I could go on and on. Dart DJs use vinyl and are cool in a way that your friends would be, not in a dated Vegas performer type of way. And they have an in-house stylist so they don't show up looking like shit.

0:46Shout out to Pete for that one.

0:47Jason Stewart:Dart can do intimate stuff to huge celebrity events as well. Hiring Dart feels like hiring your very talented friend who happens to be a DJ. Dart is for people who actually like music with 14 years in the biz. Tons of experience. I've worked with them. Highly recommended. So if you are getting married or you have any type of cool event going on and you need a good DJ, they got you. Hubs in LA, SF, Austin, New York, Chicago, all over the place. dart like throwing a dart dash collective.com that's d-a-r-t dash c-o-l-l-e-c-t-i-v-e.com email michael at dart-collective.com and tell him that chris and jason from how long gone sent you

1:46how long gone a beautiful sunday he is risen them jeans is up he's packing he's moving around i've already hit the gym the weather's looking good sounds like a perfect sunday to me bro i read three articles in the new york times magazine i mean what does it get better than this okay

2:02Jason Stewart:three articles in the magazine you're up you're up like it's stuck it's noon over there so you've had more time nine here just dropped bean off at the at the dog sitters and we're gonna go uh up to sea ranch for a relaxing weekend or i guess a relaxing monday well it counts whatever you know three days three days can be a weekend no matter where you shove it you know in the week as a content creator there are no weekdays there are no weekends every day is christmas and no day is anything you know i'm seeing a lot of i've been seeing some stuff lately talking about how sea ranch is trending who is it is it ai related i don't i can't hear about ai anymore so i don't know that that's i i try i'm i'm thinking i'm in a point sorry sorry is it chinese people related that i don't know uh i would never say something like that uh but i'm i've been able to scan past the word ai and not compute it as much as possible when when using my eyeballs to ingest information i'm trying to you know whatever the opposite of diligent is that's what you're being in terms of seeing ai out in the wild so so the of the three articles you read in the new york times magazine any of them uh any of them stand out is there a winner well there was a great there was a great story about shania twain um from lizzie who did lizzie who did meet me in the bathroom uh wrote it and it was just it was i just forget how this happens sometimes or like a 60 year old artist who is really really you know she's the best-selling female solo artist of all time what her she has an album that that's isn't that crazy i would have never i would never knew that more than whitney and mariah and all that okay okay well i mean i guess you know her her catalog does run deep she has songs that get played amongst every type of person and you know the country folks the regular folks they're all rocking with it not all the country folks are bumping bumping that whitney and some early mariah so yeah is the article it's just sort of like about how she's had this resurgence in the opening the harry style shows in london and how she's like been really embraced by, you know, whatever, Maggie Rogers and Harry Styles and Mumford and, you know, all these, all these sort of.

4:08Jason Stewart:She's been, she's been embraced by every single person except the crowd at any Harry Styles show, according to my algorithm. And I'm Twain gang, to be clear. That's the opposite of what the story, I mean, I think the story says that like, there are several 27 year old blue hair lesbians singing along to Shania Twain and the Harry crowd. But I'm sure the crowds can be. Well, it is a hairy crowd. Hairy, H-A-R-R-Y. I want to be clear, not H-A-I-R-Y. Okay, well, I mean, that's how fun and interesting the algorithm is where you're reading a newspaper article and it's saying one thing and I'm opening up my Twitter feed and it's different blue-haired people being like, who the fuck is this old-ass bitch on stage?

4:53Jason Stewart:Get hairy up on here. Why is grandma up here belting it out? You know, the sun's still out. you know 1300 people in the seats so far kind of up i mean i would rather see shania twain like i said i am twain gang but i'm just thinking about it i'm just i'm just thinking about it though it's like who i would much rather see somebody with actual hits open for harry styles than like some you know what i mean you're a straight man in his 40s i don't know what the average age range what's your asian type i bet it's for a harry crowd i bet it's not that i bet it's not that young i think yeah harry is diverse with his audience i bet it's probably a lot of 28 year olds you know what i mean and the ones that are cool well i just think that the whole thing we've talked about before the whole thing where it's like it works either two ways the audience has done all of their research and know every word to your songs because if harry anointed you as their as his opener then you're happy or it's like who is this old bitch i hate this give me harry which i would say is the less evolved fan but also probably the more represented fan Interesting how that really can, you know, it's either, you know, let's give Hobo Johnson a tiny desk or let's make fun of Hobo Johnson for having a tiny desk.

6:08Dude, that's the beauty of our world, Jason. It contains multitudes. We're able to say how we feel about things and, you know, you could get death threats for it. But otherwise, you're getting off scot-free.

6:18Jason Stewart:Yeah, I was reading, there was a New York Times opinion piece, I think, about how people dress like shit now. I think you posted it on Twitter. I reposted it, yeah. Funnily enough, written by Thomas Morton, an OG OG vice guy who is actually from Atlanta, which I didn't realize when I, I did not look at the byline when I read it and reposted it and then realized that it was him, a guy I've known for 20 years. I read it and I remember there was a reference to a band in there that I thought was hyper diaper specific and I was like, wow, if 19-year-old me knew that this word would be written in the New York Times, You know, I wouldn't have believed you.

6:58Jason Stewart:And I don't remember what it was. You know, I don't know if it was Asuk or, you know, something along those lines or his hero is gone or whatever. I don't know. Some type of lower level niche band. It was cool to see. I got a lot of clowning for reposting that article. Of all people, Trevor Skeet Skeet was making, you know, like old man vibes. But I think it's funny and true. And I also just think it's like, I don't know. It's cool that that's in the New York Times. do you know what i mean it's i know it's in the opinion section obviously it's a different thing but still it's hilarious that that is how far it's kind of interesting now because i feel like these types of you know old man shouts at cloud opinion pieces have been appearing in publications and on tv shows for whatever hundreds of years at this point but young people never knew it existed before the internet you know like yeah this this article was written in the 80s and only you know People's parents' age who read the newspaper with tea in the morning knew about it.

7:58Jason Stewart:And so there were no young people to clap back because they didn't know it was happening. But as a young person, you're seeing all these outfits and everything is thrown together terribly. And if you tried to make a bad outfit, you couldn't do a better job than some of these young folks. but you know with with this type of stuff and you hit a certain age you know you me and and skeet skeet are all you know middle-aged men he's got a kid he was no he was he was calling me oh he was saying right he no no he he was on the side of the young people well that's that's that's my point we're at that impasse between do i adopt my old headery do i take my own helmet my it's more of a chastity belt do i do i lock myself up into unk status forever how long can you sort of play both sides he's choosing to take the the young person's route because you know whatever you know everyone it's kind of divided 50 50 he doesn't he doesn't want all of his he doesn't want all of his low-paid engineers to get upset with him so he's got to kind of he's got to i get it he's playing a different political game young people are the future you know i i get it and it's but it's it's it's an easy and fun thing to fight over because there's never going to be a right answer for it you're never going to be able to have a definitive you know what's better la or new york or dressing with some sort of structure and code and and study behind it and science and thought versus just like fuck you i'm going to break the rules style yeah i mean i mean look if you want to dress like you you know turned all the lights off at second street and went crazy that's your business and i'm fine with it it's more that it it's the it's a perfect in my opinion a perfect low stakes argument where neither side is going to budge and that's why it's funny yeah like that's why it's good is because like it doesn't really matter what the outcome is and everybody's going to talk about it which is definitely what that's definitely a win for for thomas and for the new york times it's it's a win for everyone involved i would say the whole the whole point of uh of an opinion piece is to to get get it going well it started up regardless of what direction yeah but usually unfortunately it's like i'm gonna come kill you i'm gonna find your parents house and murder murder them because you know you disagree with me about this somebody with a lububu um affixed to their speedy bag that's hanging off of their low show no rise jorts with one purple shoe and one pink hair thingy they are upset those are the type of people who are going to be you know their mugshot is going to be on cnn because they done found you well thank god most of those people anti-gun so that that's the one that's the one gift of the whole thing i would say yeah yeah that's the thing as soon as you wade into anything political then the guns come out but as long as you keep it you know um music fashion or film you know we're not even going to get a knife or a baseball bat i i i don't know man i think some of those i call them in film cells okay film is different because that is giving i'm about to come into the dark night matinee and let chiquita speak I mean, I guess that did happen at that Las Vegas country show where there was the largest.

11:10Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

11:11Jason Stewart:Like everyone thinks that's fake now. Like everyone pretty much knows that that was impossible. There's been like 85 documentaries about it. One guy can't shoot like 400 people at once. Well, no. I mean, not maybe with the technology they have. But I mean, some of us are working with something a little more dangerous. You know, I don't want to. I'm not putting my guy on blast. But, yeah, no. I guess there is some art, usually art worlds, thievery, things like that. Music is more so, you know, fun and games. The movies will get shooting. Well, yeah, I mean, fun and games. I mean, I saw that Chapel Rhone came out to sing with Noah Cahan.

11:44I was crying this morning. I didn't expect to start my day crying.

11:48Jason Stewart:We got Rahon and Cahan duet. Do you know what song they did? No, I don't know. I only know the one Chapel Rhone song I really like, and I know the one Noah Cahan song, but now I get it confused with the Stella Lefty song. So now I don't know any note. Now it's basically, I'm at net zero, unfortunately. Or did they do a cover? Was it Mumford? I don't think it was a cover, but I do think that it's crazy to me that someone like Noah Cahan is like, who's your goat? And he's like, Mumford and Sons. Like at least, like Zach Bryan, Kings of Leon, they are actually goats. I think it's cool that you shout out Kings of Leon.

12:24Jason Stewart:That's to kind of take that skeet-skeet Woodside with too. I mean, but like you can't say Mumford and Sons is your goat. That's just, honestly, I'll let most people get away with whoever is their goat is their goat. But something about Mumford and Sons, I can't let that be your goat. I just can't. I can't. I just can't. I don't know why. I don't know what it is. Mumford and Sons isn't even like particularly bad. Like I don't listen to it, but it's not like it's crazy. You know what I mean? It's well crafted. They know what they're doing up there. But man, I just can't help myself. You pull up with the Mumford bumping?

12:52Jason Stewart:yeah it's sometimes it takes a lot to wake that dragon up that sleeping dragon over there in uh in chinatown slash nolita but it does happen i would actually speaking of the new york times article and you know whenever we're thinking about the the 20-year trend cycle or whatever and i was looking at a lot of these looks that were that were thrown together and it reminded me of of peacocking which was the thing that was going on about 20 years ago with with the mystery method i mean that still goes on at the pity womo trade show in italy but yes i mean i i know what you mean it's the same same thing different tax bracket though you know what i mean definitely but do you think that these yeah i mean i just don't know because i think like we're all living in a world where we're you know the world of npcs you know what i mean when we were 19 years old npcs did not exist i mean you know the terminology and the classification at least yeah yeah and now in in a world of uh being a nobody like most people are just nobodies and now instead of being nobody you're the guy who wears that weird fuzzy hat yeah and even though that's not good at all it's not cool you're at least going from nobody to that guy with that stupid fucking hat yes or that guy with the fugazi vans i came in i don't even get me started on that Don't even give me a start on that shit.

14:15Jason Stewart:It's crazy. It's crazy. But we used to peacock for pussy. No, yeah. And now we're peacocking for like a career as a third wave creator. The best part of the pictures in this story, because I'm looking at it again now, is that imagine being the New York Times photographer on assignment where you're like, all right, go find ugly ass outfits, but you can't show their faces in any of the pictures. So it's sort of, you know, it's tough. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Sounds about right until you actually do the goddamn math. For most, business shipping is that thing. What is it actually costing you?

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16:08They say, you're fine. They tell me to drink more water. I said, not possible. Maybe they wouldn't order the testing that I want. They don't want to go the extra mile, Jason. I don't get the data. I don't get the game plan. Just to see you next year, jiggle your nuts, and then we're out the door.

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17:40Jason Stewart:They're like, where should we go? Manhattan? No, no, no. A lot of people walking around, busy, kind of well-to-doers. No, let's get all the people that flew from... Let's say Disney World, the kids will be fat too. So just make sure you don't show their faces. There's going to be a lot of thin people there too, but mostly fat. Let's avoid those. Yeah, these pictures are pretty unbelievable. And we're so old now that I'm going to fire up that KTLA morning news and they're going to talk about obesity rates going up. But there's going to be footage from Rolling Loud not very far. I'm like, oh, you guys at KTLA don't know about the lean belly epidemic, I guess.

18:15But we can keep it moving. I mean, I was listening to Tim Dillon this morning. at equinox and he he did a whole thing about the winners thing to do right there like this is us this is us or whatever that show is that the large woman from that show went on went on savannah guthrie the murderers like on whatever whatever she's the she's the the news anchor person who's yeah but it's on it's on good money america or something i just can't remember which one it is

18:42Jason Stewart:yeah yeah it's it's one of those morning shows but guthrie's mom has been missing for like uh six months now and people are starting to think that it was her and her family who did it is that yeah there's there's crypto involved i don't know what the deal is and then she had chrissy metz on chrissy metz yeah so chrissy metz is like a pretty well-respected actress but she's a big gal and she i mean to the point where it was like dangerous you know what i mean so she also very similar age to us she so she goes and savannah guthrie is like basically people are mad that you have taken a glp1 and she's sort of and she's has to be nice about it but it's like bitch i'm obese like i am the actual person who should be taking this like what are you talking about like like kind of tried to confront her and then chrissy metz had to just sort of like talk like she she couldn't because she couldn't be like shut up bitch where's your dead mom you know what i mean so it turned into this like it was just a very strange but also if you are chrissy metz who has been a plus-sized role model for but that's not her that's not she was anointed that by people that's that's not her choice she was an it was not her choice but i'm saying she she's heavy is the crown that she's been wearing for at least the last 10 years as somebody so as a human with a with a soul she's i'm sure she's received letters and and messages from thousands of people over the years so she feels that weight literally i'm sorry for all these puns but i'm not trying to make any of them but she feels the weight of all these people who are looking to her as a a role model i don't think that's i i sure it's a sourdough role i understand i understand so so she feels a little bit of responsibility to it so only only i'm saying the only reason why she'd said any comment at all versus like what the fuck are you talking about was because of all those people that she really does feel you know the emotional weight from i don't i i think it's because she's on TV is why she didn't say what she wanted to say.

20:42But I think that -

20:43Jason Stewart:But also Guthrie, it's, everyone wants, you know, it's a hard question to ask. Like, what is your plan for us in terms of your weight loss? It just, it's crazy. It's so irresponsible to, I don't know. It just feels insane to me to do that to someone. But that's where we are in 2016. Clearly dangerously, like dangerously obese though. You know what I mean? It's not like she wanted to lose 10 for a premiere. it's like it's like actually this could put years on her life for her and her family and you're like confronting her about it because some people in the midwest are writing in it just doesn't make it just it's not that's crazy to police someone like that but you know jason we don't police women's bodies and i would expect savannah guthrie to do the same that's all i mean i'm i'm on i'm on chrissy's side just like you don't worry i'm team mets no no s no it's z only yeah your team metz there you have the new york metz logo hat and you had somebody in brooklyn embroider it to say come on you already know you know i got it custom you already know i got it custom also chrissy metz her she was in hunting wives remember yeah of course no no chrissy metz is a is a very successful working actress she's hunting for a plate she she was now she's hunting for a smaller plate but i think that the i saw you hunting hunting for a plate okay so how okay i pulled up the IG you know I hate to be uh I know where you're going to be that girl but she's she is still looking large but I'm saying Jason but that's what I'm saying I think it's that's what that's my whole point I think it's that drop that point severe that she could have lost 20 pounds or 30 pounds and you couldn't even notice and that that means that that means that she needs to get healthy and she's doing the best she can to get healthy and we've got a skinny bitch on TV confronting her about losing.

22:29It's just crazy to me. I don't know. It just feels really irresponsible.

22:32Jason Stewart:It is. It is absolutely irresponsible and shame on Guthrie. I mean, look, I'm sure that her bosses, her producers have the gun to her head. Metz is coming on. Let's ask the hard questions. We can't get Charlie Rose out of retirement, so Guthrie, it's your job. Anyway, Metz, come on the pod. I was looking, I guess speaking of actors, I saw a tweet, Nicole Kidman tells British Vogue, About her origins of her love of fashion, makeup, and hair. Yeah. You see this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically, she said that she learned how to do hair and makeup by going to trans clubs as a kid, I guess. I don't know.

23:12Jason Stewart:Whatever age you learned how to do your hair and makeup in. I'm assuming she's a teenager. A freckle-faced redhead girl that they would make, and they would make me beautiful. And nobody believes this, right? does anybody believe that at the age of whatever she decides to say also she's Australian I mean I think learn is obviously I think she's saying I was probably 18, 19 learn meaning I learned how to do it right not bad I don't know I don't not believe it it's not that crazy that Nicole Kidman could have been a raver hanging out with a trans crew when she's 18 or 19 imagine what people of all kinds I just want to know how many trans clubs existed in Australia in 1983.

23:59I don't think that's the actual, is that actually what she said though? That, that phrase, I bet it's not.

24:04Jason Stewart:She said, I said it before, but I used to go to trans clubs, period. That's where I learned to do my hair and makeup. I would sit down as a freckle face, redheaded girl, and they would make me beautiful. Oh, okay. So if she was born in 67, so then 1985 would put her at 18 years old. I'm not going to say this is that out of the question, honestly. I think she may be overstating. I think it could be more of a gay club. You know what I mean? But maybe her homies that really helped her out. Do you think she's throwing a little bit of sauce on there because trans is pumping right now? But I just Googled Sydney in 1985, Sydney's transgender drag and queer scene centered heavily around the iconic venues, the taxi club on Flinders Street and Darlingust and the Exchange Hotel on Oxford Street.

24:58Jason Stewart:Well, yeah, I mean, maybe she's not. She's not bullshit. I don't think it's that. I mean, I think it's like hard for us to imagine because Nicole Kidman has sort of been famous her whole life, you know, and it's tough to imagine her doing anything that wasn't like with three bodyguards. But I believe it from her. I think that's the thing. We had to do the work. We had to step up and do the work. And we said, okay. I think that's why people like Nicole Kidman so much is because deep down, she's actually cool. And that shines through sometimes even after years of fame and being married to Tom Cruise and the whole thing.

25:29I think that's a big part of it. I think that's a big part of it is that deep down, you just know that she was actually cool. And if that peeks out, it's just reassuring.

25:39Jason Stewart:Deep down, you know she was that diva, but then it makes you wonder how dating Tom Cruise for that long will affect her diva score greatly. That's a big chunk because that raises a lot of cues. I'm actually going to go opposite of you. I think her getting out of it brings the score back up and even pushes it further. Because I think at a certain point, if you're her, you think it's dangerous to get out of that because you've got the Scientologist coming after you. so she i mean the keith urban thing is more concerning to me but that's neither here nor there oh yeah you know that's neither here nor there i think that's more the tom cruise thing he was the most famous actor in the world and you were probably pretty romanced by that and then you were you know brainwashed and threatened i think she just straight up has a type because i'm looking at like with the way keith urban looks and dresses and has his hair in 2026 is how tom cruise looked in 2003.

26:35Jason Stewart:He had maybe some highlights, maybe a center part, maybe a little... No, you're not wrong. They did have similar hair. And as an Australian bird, she does have a type, which is, I like, metrosexual men. I don't know what her dating history is outside of those two, but there probably is some. But those are two anchors on her roster that are psychotic, which I guess makes her even more of a div. Yeah. Is she more transhuman than human? Well, now she's dating like a private equity guy. Really? Yeah. Yeah. That's the whole thing. Her and Olivia Rodrigo are dating private equity guys. Okay. I looked up this.

27:15Jason Stewart:Okay. Simon Baker. I mean, you know what he looks like. He just looks like one of those, you know, he looks like all those private equity guys. He looks pretty good. He looks like a pretty good looking guy. Yeah. He's been rich for 30 years. He kind of knows what's up. You know, he knows that, you know, he's got a personal shopper at Prada. he gets a face you know he's a little more evolved because of his bank he's one of those guys that can actually pull off a chore coat you psycho are you fucking crazy uh yeah i don't i don't know what why is nicole in the news right is she promoting something i because i did see this i'm sure she's promoting something yeah whatever it is it's probably dumb and small though oh she's she's in the she's in the troy savant music video that's why this is she's in a no no no she's in a amazon prime original film called scarpetta but she's based on the best but she's also in the video that came out like three days ago oh also practical magic too i think the reason why she's doing the troy is because practical magic too the timing yeah that makes sense but also scarpetta scarpetta famously a nice uh italian restaurant like a vegas style yeah yeah scarpetta is an eight eight part crime thriller uh and nicole plays case scarpetta a forensic pathologist drone uh hunt for a serial killer you know jamie lee curtis and bobby carnival i'm watching this on the plane like a motherfucker in a one and a half years dude it's it's really crazy how long it's been since i've watched something on the entertainment system of a plane i was thinking about this yesterday because i haven't been a roll dog i just i'm not even raw dog i'm using my computer i'm reading or whatever i'm not i'm not staring but i'm just like i don't even think to turn it on anymore.

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28:49Jason Stewart:The only time I turn it on is to see, I turn the screen on to see how much time is left in the flight and then turn the screen off again three or four times depending on the length of the flight. That's my max usage. So you treat the infotainment center like I treat my phone in a movie. The flight is your movie. You just open it up, you say, okay, one hour and 47 more minutes, all right. Time to power it down back to my novel. Back to Practical Magic 2. I just don't know what would put me in that position. It would have to be another direct to Singapore where there's nothing left. Because I'll download stuff occasionally to watch on my phone or whatever, which is no question a worse experience for me.

29:34But have you tried the technology, the Bluetooth technology that's supposed to work from the screen on the seat back into your AirPod?

29:44Jason Stewart:I haven't tried it yet. I haven't tried it yet. something about it feels wrong i don't like it but i think it works i think it actually works though which is kind of crazy because i see people doing it a lot and it feels like something that shouldn't work well enough you know what i mean it just feels like they'll find a way to fuck that up but if that works we were talking about a week or two ago styling styling's changing everything i don't know how that affects bluetooth i don't think it does at all but you know it can't hurt and i actually saw somebody do a starlink related tweet yesterday where they posed the question you know there's the no phone calls allowed no facetime calls allowed while you're on the plane but now that starlink exists you can facetime your shorty with headphones on and from an airplane don't don't say that jason don't put this out into the world well the so a guy is saying i was facetiming my wife or my kid or whatever i had my headphones on probably speaking at a you know a low volume and the the the flight attendant said you know you're not allowed to do that yeah yeah he understood he turned it off it's fine he he's not gonna you know get dragged out and with zip ties on but the question posed is if it really what is the reason why you can't do it i'm allowed to talk at full volume next to my seatmate we're allowed to laugh crazy loud jason in in theory you are but anytime anytime i hear someone talking on the plane there they know it's bad have well that doesn't matter have you ever seen a flight attendant go over to two people talking to each other and tell them they have to stop that's never happened i wish they would of course but maybe not but i i don't think that i just think if we start walking back i don't i don't think we should i don't think we should call or facetime on the plane at all but you know in uh in terms of seeing both sides you know what what is the reason now i think the reason is that people will do that for the duration of a flight is there is there if you give people you know i mean it's like the fact that we don't self no one polices people listening to music without headphones and and now people just do it wherever whenever all the time because no one says anything the same kind of thing like i think of if if you allow people to facetime on a plane there will be people that will facetime for every second of a flight from New York to Los Angeles and make everyone want to kill them.

32:03That's the issue.

32:04Jason Stewart:Maybe that's why you like flying so much because it's the most public space that still has rules set up. It does have... Societal-based rules. I would say mostly self-police because flight attendants are afraid of getting beat up by someone if they tell them to turn their phone off. But I do think that... But I'm saying if you're at a restaurant and you're reclining your seat, in your chair and you know you can't be arrested for not putting the chair back up or whatever it is you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah but i i don't i i just think that this is it also how much is the little star like how much is the personal star link like how much can i cop for i think we we when we were talking about it it's like uh you know a couple hundred bucks for the hardware and then 55 bucks a month and i can just bring it with me wherever yeah i think so and in theory it works the boat whatever and in theory it works everywhere i think so yes okay i'll buy one of these hopefully not australia i'll buy one i'll buy one of these no question if this if this works as well as they say it does i mean i don't know when i would really need it quote it's like i'm you know backpacking you know in a place where i need it for emergencies but never know we're driving from uh from bistur village back to the back to the east end and you've got some very important emails some very important sub stacks to edit or whatever it is it's better than it's better than i mean yeah i guess in that case it's better than tethering but also and also you're always traveling i mean i think the the reason why you should get starlink is because the wi-fi in your own house where you live is is the worst and you should just i've made it i've actually made some steps to improve that this weekend jason i've i've we've spoken to verizon and they are aware of the problem.

33:51And they have sent something.

33:53Jason Stewart:Verizon is aware of the issue. They've reset the hardware, but they've also sent some sort of something for me to place, like an extender of some kind, which is crazy to need an extender in a thousand square foot apartment. But, you know, here we are. New York City, baby. It's more so the extenders exist like a lot of people in L.A. have them who live up deep into the hills, you know in the canyons where the cell phone reception is bad you're you're in the center of manhattan dead zones can dead zones can happen anywhere i would say i would honestly like when people live in places like that in la where like nothing works i just that would stop me from buying or renting a home like i would literally i would literally be like i can't how do you like that's annoying every single day of your life unless you're retired or so rich that no one can contact you yeah like there's no way that that makes sense it blows my mind or or you're so rich that whatever the issue is you can pay somebody to you know like like for example if you're you're a lot of times you're driving around these houses and you see these great homes and they're on these cliffs and it's architectural wonder but i'm looking at how how does how am i going to get the trash cans up and down this thing every every tuesday that's important like uh like friend of the show lauren sherman her and her and dan's house in in eagle rock that that they used to live in it looks like a very difficult task getting those cans up and down i would say i would say i would say and i don't want to speak out of turn i would say you might have to put them in a car which is i mean you have to rent a u-haul once a week no i just i just mean unless you have a a truck you know you don't want to put a couple of stinky cans in the back of the xc90 of course I mean that's you know no one wants to do that but I remember I mean I remember I remember growing up people had driveways that long where that was it like every week you gotta you gotta bring the truck down put the trash cans in the back and drive them back because there's it's a mile long or whatever no no joke that's like a whole that's a whole thing that was like a whole thing or I was just talking to somebody um what is it on on Friday or sorry oh yeah at the uh Reese Cooper he opened the store yeah yeah like right next door to bar de bella so lots of friends over there go check that out i hung out with uh with our old pal ben edgar um went over to eleni and then had a drink at the bob but somebody was talking about how the house that they like a house that they wanted to live in or they were checking out or whatever the the street like the asphalt going up to it was all broken up and you know where you see some some streets are just all fucked up you know nasty shit and you're like i i have to i'm i'm gonna call the city they're never gonna fix it nothing's ever gonna be like it's only gonna get worse and you have to consider that when you're like if that's your dream house but you have to like buy a different buy like a off-road vehicle to get like enter enter it every day that's a real thing that can affect you and it's so crazy that you can't there was a video about uh a karen bass video about pothole repair did you see this uh no she's Everyone hates her a lot, but she posted a video where somebody was complaining a pothole was really bad.

37:06Jason Stewart:And then she was saying the next day, Karen sent somebody out. But then the problem was there was a car parked over the pothole, so they couldn't fix it. So basically, she released a video of her not fixing a pothole. And everyone was wondering, why don't you just wait until the next day to fix it? and then you could film yourself actually repairing the pothole. There seems to be a way to do this that's very easy if you just thought about it a little harder. But it's the most, you know, 2026 American mayor thing in the world to do is post a video of you not fixing a simple pothole. Well, one of Zoran's big victories early on was fixing this, I guess, notorious pothole slash bump where you get off the Williamsburg Bridge on a city bike.

37:52Yeah. You know, and I, it's amazing that that's what people actually care about. Like that, there's more excitement about that than there is about things that matter, which is a funny, it seems like a small victory.

38:03Jason Stewart:Well, some of the things that matter aren't as fun to talk about and post about online. No, they're not. But the bottle, you know, because paving is notoriously expensive. And I, you know, I just know that. I didn't know that. I actually didn't know that. No, when you see, I'm saying like if you see, when you see a beautiful home with like a gravel, even if it's like nice gravel meant to evoke the Italian countryside, like sure, that's a design choice, but it's also like this could, this would have cost you 200 grand to pay for whatever. Right. Because it's so, it's so long. Or if you're in Canada, when you really got bread during the dead of winter, you see the heated driveway.

38:41That's when you got big bread. You know what I'm saying? That's, that is, that's when you've really made it.

38:46Jason Stewart:Okay, so I've been in chalet-like hotels that'll have the heated floor in the bathroom. How far do Canadians go with floor heating? Oh, I think you'll do the whole house. Whole crib heated? I think the whole crib heated. I mean, I think that the heated floor in the bathroom is silly to me. Like, I'm not standing on that floor enough for it to be heated. Much like the towel rack that heats. Like if I lived in Sterling Point, let's say. What isn't heated? Well, Muskoka's more of a summer place, though. You know what I mean? so you don't really, you know, it's not really, I mean, you know, as you see in the show, they're winterizing the house, which obviously some of the major ones are, but I would say like he did.

39:26What does that mean?

39:27Jason Stewart:They're winterizing the house. I think it just means that you sort of. Like to get ready for winter, like to. Yeah. You like seal. Like from a practical way. Yeah. I think you seal everything up and sort of. Yeah. I believe I've never. It's shocking. To batten down the hatches to get ready for the winter. I wasn't because when Carolyn winterizes the home, we're getting the pine swag hanging from the thingies. No, I don't mean. The pillow color is changed and things like that. No, no, no. We're talking something more practical. This is real. This is not decorative. It is in winter mode activated.

40:01Jason Stewart:That means we have more hot cocoa. You're like, I've winterized the house. If you just look at the flat screen, I've put on the fireplace DVD. So we're good to go from here. Yeah, I don't. A heated driveway is nice, though. I got to say. They have heated sidewalks in Aspen. That's one of the, and I'm sure that's true about Geneva and several other high net worth. That's nice of them. So like all the homeless people at night, they can have a warm place to sleep? Is that what it is? If you've ever blamed that pesky, bloated feeling on getting older or just being so busy, or maybe that late night burrito, Jason, and it might be worth getting a clear answer on what the real culprit is.

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42:58Jason Stewart:I mentioned Rolling Loud earlier In terms of fat people but did you see The trailer for the Rolling Loud Movie starring Owen Wilson I didn't I sent it to you but I didn't watch it Cause I knew you would I predict it's gonna be A huge it's not gonna be the Odyssey but I predict it's gonna be It's gonna do good numbers Because it's actually does it actually look funny Maybe It's one of those Like it looks bad and good all at the same time but I think it's one of those films where every young person has to see it whether or not it's good or not there's always been those little things you know what I can't think of anything right now of what that might be but something hits the zeitgeist and touches so many things at once that even if you're a cool person or even if you hate rolling loud or whatever you kind of have to watch it because it's just so whatever's going on in your life.

43:56Can you explain to me can you explain Remind me, just from your quick watch of the trailer, what do you think happens and what on earth is Owen Wilson doing?

44:04Jason Stewart:Okay, Owen Wilson plays a dad and his kid wants to go to Rolling Loud. I think he has to lie to his wife and say that they're going on a camping trip or something. But he actually takes his kid to Rolling Loud because he wants to be the cool dad or something. And then he loses his kid. And then the adventure is that he gets help from all the rappers. And, you know. Okay, hold on. This sounds. Galaxy Gas users help him find his kid. This sounds pretty good. This sounds pretty good. But like all the people that we know, like all the 50-year-old guys who have kids who are 13, it just hits the coastal elite suburban family kind of thing.

44:47Jason Stewart:Who plays the kid? Who plays his son? and I think like Travis Scott is like a producer and he co-stars in it so like just that alone his name is Christian Convery okay so it's just like an actual little kid I didn't know if they okay I didn't know not little obviously but you know what I mean this is he's an emerging talent this is a real yeah I mean this is you're right because this is a thing that there are a lot of parents of teenagers that are dealing with that are like especially if they know what this stuff is they're like bro I can't send you to this like that would be irresponsible to let you go watch playboy cardi you might get trampled but but but i also think that it's um it's like a marketing kind of thing that rolling loud is making this to sort of yeah it's smart as hell because whoever like like rolling loud has always been like a very like janky kind of energy to it and i'm sure that it's now owned by a venture fund or crazy whatever black rock owns it now and they feel like they have to sort of whitewash and clean the image of rolling loud if it's going to be the biggest hip-hop festival in the world.

45:51Jason Stewart:And I think that's what the whole point of this movie is. That's a, honestly. But if it works and it's got, if it has Matt Reif in it, I mean, this is. And Owen Wilson. No, this is genius. I mean, I got, honestly, it is. It's a really good, like, we've gotten to the point where a music festival can make a movie with like, I mean, Owen Wilson, I think by many, is considered an A-list actor. I mean, he's, you know, he's done it all. He's been around forever. and you get Matt Reif for the young people and you get Travis Scott for the younger people. That's a pretty, I mean, that's a winning combination to promote your music festival.

46:24Jason Stewart:Yeah, and there's this guy, Marcus Lewis, who's like a buff, like action movie stuntman kind of guy, like Black Panther and Fast and Furious kind of guy, but he plays the gnarly security guard. Like every rapper has the crazy, like wearing military, you know, dressed like Hassan Piker with the bulletproof vest on, walking around backstage at Rolling Loud. I love our Wall Street Journal family. Whoever put him in the fucking press bulletproof vest, he liked that too much. Like, I'm not saying it's not good for a picture. I'm just saying, you know he was like, yeah, that's me. I'm dangerous. It could have been his idea.

47:02No, that guy doesn't have any ideas except wearing ugly clothes, looking like fucking, talk about Second Street. He looks like fucking, you know, Essence Sale.

47:10Jason Stewart:With Piker, the bulletproof press stays on during sex. 100 i just i was like dude this the the chub he got when they're like would you wear a bolt proof vest with a press pack i mean i guess if you guys really want me you know yeah yeah of course he was on chub he never been more excited never been more excited i saw um vogue world returns in in san francisco 2027 i'll be boycotting it of course any reason to go to san francisco you know why not I actually I really do think the rehab of San Francisco is one of America's best cities is going to work I actually think it's going to work okay it's better than like Chicago you know what I mean like it's it has more natural beauty than most places obviously New York and LA are winners Miami is pretty gnarly depending on what you're into Chicago is is actually quite pretty low-key but it's in the Midwest so people are just like I don't care about that san francisco seattle's too rainy you know nirvana's been you know kirkumay's been dead for a long time so it's like what are they started on texas no it's true i get it it makes sense the i mean i think everyone agrees but you know like the amount of people who are having their cars and homes broken into has gone down a lot housing prices have gone crazy up and the only people that can afford it are uh spacex ipo motherfuckers or ai people or you know microchip but see that's just not true that's just not true it's like you get but that's like saying that about new york and it's not true because a lot of different people live here do you know what i mean that that's what i'm trying to say it's like that of course that is the picture that is painted because to an extent it's true the people that work at companies their their husbands and wives and and children also have to live there too i get it i just mean that i just was a joke i know i just mean that san francisco is a i mean like i think that a comeback a comeback story of san francisco would be good for america and i think that's why it will happen i agree but at what cost you know i guess the cost is a lot i would rather go to san francisco at this point i would rather go to the san francisco area than most cities in america i if i'm if it's like chris where do you want to go for two days you know with no maybe with no no agenda or nothing to do like i would probably rather go there than like dallas you know what i mean like to think about what the options are you're right you're right and and uh and everyone is saying the food there right now is is really at the moment it also has the history it also has like actual history that it's cool do you know what i mean like whether you care about that stuff whether you care about the stones at ultima or the grateful dead or fucking the beats or whatever like it's real there's like actual history where if you're looking at chicago has that too and miami has that too but those just seem they have so much less natural beauty to me which is a weird no i i agree san francisco is an amazing amazing city with a lot of natural beauty the the i guess the the thing that i take i mean it's overall it's a good thing that the city is is repairing itself and you know homelessness and drug use and crime and all that stuff is going down but you know i to me i see a city where they they turn it into a shithole so then they could go you know kind of gut it and turn it into a new city and that but that city it's it's it's like a soho house it's like soho city to me but who are you saying but who are you saying i don't think anyone turned it into that i think that's unfortunately how the cookie crumbled in many places during covid and after covid sure you Do you think you're saying it was a calculated effort to make it bad?

50:46Jason Stewart:No, I don't know. I'm not doing a conspiracy theory that that's what happened. But I'm seeing a city that is being turned into a Soho House version of it or like the Grove or the Americana or the Hudson Yards version of it where, yes, it has all this great stuff going for it. The only cost is the soul has been removed from it. I mean, you could say that about New York and L.A., though, if you really want to get down to it. I mean, only because the three things you named as examples are all in New York and L.A. That's true. Well, I mean, but I guess Hudson Yards, thank God, is very avoidable. And as is the Grove and the American, you know, those aren't.

51:27It's not like you.

51:28Jason Stewart:But I'm saying we started with Soho houses and then we went into Groves and Americanas and live, work, retail, you know, kind of pod style living. and now we're going to do it with the city. Yeah, I mean, I think that's true everywhere, but you should check out Nashville. Yesterday I went to, I'd never been to Frenchette for brunch, but I went yesterday with David Cho and Ryan McGinley. It was David Cho's choice, of course. And I'm like, all I want is eggs. You know what I mean? I just want eggs and toast. So we had planned to go to Gemma, the home of eggs and toast on the weekend. he's like actually no let's go to Frenchette I really want the pancake and I'm like alright whatever it's closer to me fine and then I look at the Frenchette brunch menu and it's literally like one omelette and then like trout hollandaise and fucking then a dinner menu I was like this is a fake this is not a real like if you can't order you shouldn't be able to market the word brunch obviously is cursed you shouldn't be able to market brunch to me if your one option is a French omelet that is child-sized.

52:42Jason Stewart:Okay, this is good. This is good. Okay, shout out to our French family. It tasted good as fuck. Don't get me wrong. It was delicious. I have the omelet with fine herbs and palm frites. So that is good. I obviously didn't get the French fries, so I had a child-sized omelet and a green salad. And I'm like, okay, is there any other? Are there other? You call it a child-sized omelet. what would be your guesstimation on how many eggs went into this omelet? Two. Good Lord. Two, maybe. Good Lord. Two, maybe three. It's so soft, you can't tell. It tastes good as hell. So a two-egg omelet with french fries costs$28.

53:18Jason Stewart:That's my French ed. But now that I'm looking at the rest of the brunch menu, coming up next, we've got the escargot. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And then the next, we have the brook trout with sorrel. Um, we have the, we have the pancake of course with cat skills, maple syrup. Now, now let me, let me say something. Let me say something real quick. We all ordered an omelet and Cho ordered this pancake cause you know, he's Asian and the, the, the, he orders it to come after the mains. Right. And table cakes, dessert, not table cakes to start. Table cakes, dessert. And let me tell you something, that pancake knocked my goddamn socks off.

54:03It is fucking delicious. do not get it twisted that shit is good as hell and it was worth it was absolutely worth getting four eggs less than I wanted but I just do you see where I was lied to you know what I mean like when you think of the word brunch obviously it has negative connotations but it also has connotations that will be more than one egg dish and a quiche doesn't

54:24Jason Stewart:count well coming up next we've got our charred carrots with za 'atar we also have our duck confit of course something light for lunch As well as the eggplant schnitzel and the spaghetti with batarga. That's what I'm saying, bro. I'm like, look, I don't need silly stuff. I don't need dumb brunch food. Well, you need the foie gras with port wine gelée. I mean, I was just like, dude, if you wanted a pancake this bad, get one on your own fucking time, okay? I mean, it's so tough out here. that means you know chris black is buying eggs and bread and making it at home that is the thing that's what you've been driven to that's how bad that is what i've been driven to like used to be back in the day i could when i lived on on fucking ridge street i could stroll down to shillers get my fucking four eggs my toast a green salad i'm back at the fucking imac like it's nothing no problem you walk through so what i got what am i what am i gonna do where am i gonna go And I'm not going to a diner because I'm not in fucking Taking Back Sunday.

55:34Like I don't hang out at diners. I'm not a goth teenager. So where do you go? On a Monday?

55:39Jason Stewart:And also somebody like you with finer tastes, you demand food of a little bit higher quality. And when you go to one of those diners where it's exactly what you want, the bread, it's shitty bread. The butter is shitty and cold. The eggs are some, you know, no, it's not the good stuff. And when you go to Frenchette, they're using really good. Bro, the food was delicious. The leeks are awesome at Frenchette. The food was delicious. It was just like, this is not. Actually, I will say the Balthazar omelet is a great option, and it's a fat boy. You know what I mean? It's taken up half the plate, but then you're going to Balthazar, and it's kind of a whole thing.

56:20You know what I mean? And Schiller's, which was a Keith McNally restaurant, because it was in the Lower East Side, and it was pre-fucking food influencers, it was no big deal. You know what I mean?

56:31Jason Stewart:Shilla's. Shilla's. So when you went to Shilla's, you didn't get the ham and comte gnocchi for breakfast? No. Dude, I was just blown away by what all I said to David was, I want eggs and toast. And he literally said, sure. And then days before, actually no. I want to go to a restaurant where they don't have that at all. Well, was it Cho's birthday or something? Why does he get to bed? No, exactly. No, I don't know why. I don't know why. I was cooked. What did Ryan McGinley eat first brunch? He had a tea and then he had the omelet And he had the salad We all had the same thing All three of us ordered the exact same thing You all ordered the exact same thing Because that's the only thing to order Also quiche is not eggs I know it technically is But it's not eggs Quiche is a pie Not just because of the form factor If it's got a crust it's a pie I agree Afterwards I met Alex and Ryan they were at gemma which is fucked up so i went to meet them at gemma where they where they had enjoyed exactly what i wanted to enjoy and then we went to the whitney because there's the biennale which is you know sort of you know it's it's a little much for me historically but there was this warhol family album room that was all polaroids and it was a mix of kind of the classic polaroid form factor that we know and then and then the one like the big shot style which is a more flattering polaroid that like there's a gus van zandt book of you would recognize them they're more like rectangular the actual print but there was like 15 pictures in a row of diane von firstenberg and bro i didn't i kind of forgot how bad she was oh my goodness i was i was taken aback i was in the war i was in the war hall room just looking at diane von firstenberg like damn you were married to a gay guy for your whole life i'm looking like that i'm in the the dvf wing on Chubb.

58:26Bro, Alex and I both, I was like, damn, I knew she was fine, but my God, Andy really painted her in a beautiful light.

58:33Jason Stewart:And Alex agreed. When I pulled up a pic from Instagram, at 25, wearing a cow print bodysuit, already had two kids. Dude, different time. 25 children, sorry, 25 years old, two children, and a cute Italian dress that made history. A man's life in a woman's body. My advice to young women, be true to yourself, never lie, be kind, focus on intention and enjoy the ride. Never lose the dialogue with yourself. Write the diary and be the woman you can be. Okay, Diane. That's good advice for us too. I mean, you know, I know we're not women but we could apply that I think to us as men. Okay. Diane, come on the pod.

59:16Diane, come on the pod. All right.

59:17Jason Stewart:With your fine ass. With your fine ass. How long gone? Thank you for listening. I think we're going to have a few more tickets for the Ghanies, but they sold out so far. But I think there's more. I've got to talk to the powers that be. Thank you, all you guys. Yeah, thank you, guys. We're getting it together. And then I guess we'll have more info on Toronto on the 12th soon. We're doing something in L.A. on the 8th. Have more info on that soon. I mean, unfortunately, it's how long gone season as fall approaches, back to school, as they say. Yeah, my body is being prepared right now. Don't you worry.

59:53Jason Stewart:And also, when you said biennale, that's the Italian way of saying it. Does anybody in America call it just the biennial? No. I think if you're going, I think it's, I mean, probably. Is it like the same way some people say pity and pitti? I mean, yeah, I'm sure. And now I'm realizing what's even more fucked up, both of the restaurant at the Whitney, Frenchette. So I had a coffee at Frenchette later. Basically all my meals yesterday God damn it Thank God I had Momofuku for dinner That's why you're getting fat Chris You're eating all this French food No I had a coffee but I knew where it was from Spiritually it felt fat French coffee has much more calories Exactly We don't know where that shit comes from All the froth on top Thank you for listening We'll see you next week Au revoir

1:00:50You're my playground love

1:01:19and the perfect sequel.

1:01:21Jason Stewart:That's all. Get runway ready for The Devil Wears Prada 2 on Disney Plus and Hulu. Rated PG-13.

From the publisher

One-on-one pod today: Chris is in New York, and Jason is home in L.A. We chat about Shania Twain, the incomprehensible fashion statements of Gen Z, This Is Us’ Chrissy Metz being forced to defend her jab, fact-checking Nicole Kidman’s allyship, Chris getting closer to pulling the trigger on Starlink, the heated driveways out on Sterling Point, TJ predicting box office success for the Rolling Loud film, Chris making his case for San Francisco, Jason predicting the Soho House-ification of cities, the brunch menu at Frenchette, the rise of pancakes, and a trip to the Whitney Biennial.

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