988. - Nick Axelrod

33:38And I'm like, that was like the worst come. Like that was like, you know what I mean? Like you want to think.

33:44Jason Stewart:So did you ever think like if I had, if I had loom. And again, I'm also like, if that was the worst, imagine what I could do on my best day. It's cool that you look at your beautiful daughter and you're like, damn, that nut really sucked. Like you had no idea what I had to do to get this. Well, no, it's more just like that. You don't even have to have a good nut to have such a great time. that's a better way to spin it okay my bad that's such a better way like a rose go a rose grows from concrete yeah yeah whatever yeah like a real eyes in the back of the head toe curler that does not guarantee you're gonna shit out an army hammer stud muffin you know what i mean apparently okay so is the lube thing is the reason you know i'm putting on my business cap now i know you're a founder the lube reason is because that could sort of fuck up the fertility-ness of the sperm and we don't want to get the fucking you're not even supposed to use spit from what i remember okay this just took it this just took a turn and i'm hard now okay so here's what i'm gonna say you can't even spit your saliva on it guys you you are literally a lotion baron why don't you you can get a government contract yeah to make so here's the issue insemination yeah we had to go through the FDA clearance process for necessary.

34:58We made a sex gel, like, which was a lubricant. The issue is that, um, it's a really annoying process, but number two, I think they now, there now is a type of lube you can use in these like situations for like fertility stuff. But like, you know, this is why the next generation is not going to struggle like ours, you know? Yeah. Thank God. We, we, we, yeah. The best thing is that my husband and I both still pay every single month$45 each to keep our not just the fertilized eggs frozen but our

35:27Jason Stewart:individual sperm frozen 45 a month little cricket wireless plan yes but like that's like where that the the only reason that we would keep our sperm is like this 37 year old sperm i guess that we have would be like if we were going to like ultimately get divorced something happens to one another and then we'd want to like make new babies with someone new which is like none of this is possible but like killing that 37 year old sperm is just like you're saying that's when you were you were peaking at 37 the 43 year old nut ain't gonna hit the same i doubt it i see i doubt it wow and also it seemed like you don't you it's hard to pull the plug on a loved one in a hospital you don't want to pull the plug on one of your sperms especially a prime vintage like that no it's And the price is just low enough to where you're like, eh.

36:20Jason Stewart:Yeah, exactly. I was going to say, it's like Paramount+. If it was$4 ,500 a month, we'd be like, okay, let's have a talk. But you and your partner have no plans to ever create more children? Is that door 100 % closed? No. If necessary, sells before we are, let's call it 48. Okay. So I'm 43 next month. If Necessaire sells in the next five years, we'll maybe take another one out of the freezer. Pull a cold one out of the freezer? We're popping a vintage from our cellar. But Necessaire needs to sell. It can't be a fire sale where we let it go for$2.3 million. It needs to be more of a juicier sale to where we can raise many children without worrying about those school districts.

37:13Jason Stewart:and private. I thought it already, I guess I just assumed it already sold. That's my bad. Bless your heart. It has not. Okay. Do you think I'd be here? Do you think I'd be here launching another fucking thing if it was? I'd be on vacation. How often? But you're not doing it every day. You're not dealing with it every day. I don't do Necessaire anymore. No, I've been working on that new thing. Yeah, yeah. But I wish and hope every single night that Necessaire sells. But I mean, it's doing really well. I mean, people love that shit. it's in it's in my house for sure my wife is paying full clip at sephora for it you know once a month but i think that the um let's get him a promo code okay i just feel yeah i need a promo i just feel like that's chris 10 not 10 who is who is left to buy like who buys these things who are the three people that would buy it estee lauder sure l 'oreal okay and lvmh yeah lvmh would be one i mean like so salt and stone which uh you mentioned before like that one just sold to private equity for a shitload of money um and then another one another body care brand so oh salt hair which is this one that's like what i don't even know that's a ser for for like girlies who want to smell like you know santal 33 and okay it has like it's like scented it's it's uh yeah scented body care that just sold for like hundreds of millions of dollars so the hope is that like one of these other strategics wants to like get in on on the body care that's why we do this podcast what are the top three what are the top three products like sales wise yeah sales wise uh the body wash yeah um which is incredible like the texture it's like a honey kind of like plush honey texture and then the body serum i think is one and the i think the deodorants like the natural deodorants do well oh yeah yeah those are yeah those yeah those are hit okay that make that all makes sense i just i just can't there's so much stuff out there too much you know what i mean it's hard it's hard to keep track but what's the one called salt hair salt hair is the like where do i buy that like where do i buy that i think target oh that's why yeah i don't go to target I live in Manhattan, bro.

39:32I'm good. It's one of those brands that was doing$170 million a year that if you live in New York or LA, you probably had never heard of, but never underestimate. God, that's my dream. I know. We kill everywhere else, so it doesn't matter. We don't have to talk to anybody about it. That's crazy.

39:49Jason Stewart:Okay, so Salt & Stone and Salt Air have both sold both your competition. Salt is a running through line here. Mm-hmm. It's a theme. I know. I mean, we sort of started the body care trend, I think, sort of like the reinvigorated the category. No one was really playing in body. It's a really tough category to make work on the back end because if you think about it, it's like big bottles for low prices versus skincare, like facial cream is like this much for$70. and so like it i think took a little bit of time to like get it you know to like a healthy place but i mean i it's i see it everywhere in sephora i'm like more of a i'm i'm more like one of you guys at this point with that brand but i like wish i wish for it to succeed with every ounce of my being yeah of course of course the issue with private schools in la is that they don't take equity they don't you yeah you can't you can't send over a term sheet and get that thing signed you gotta pay cash how many shares is it gonna take to get these these little shits in here over at west lake look i got two i got two fucking rug rug rats let's talk what what is it what do we really gotta do here okay so but necessary is is more unscented right no it has all the it has all different scents the unscented is just popular in my house because i think it's rare to have something that looks good that's like it's not lubriderm it like looks nice and it's the idea like the initial idea was sort of the like furniture for your bathroom like shampoo conditioners body washes like they're they take up so much physical real estate and i you know originally was sort of thinking like what if like why can't they look nice why can't you like go into your bathroom and into your shower and like have these things because they take up so much space so we wanted to like design it brian rotinger who has become sort of like my most significant creative collaborator um he's a graph designer based in la did that we know we know brian brian's the old hardcore guy just like me and jason we love to see we love to see our our guys succeeding it's important so him and i did my new brand uh contrapposto together and he's uh looks great i was just i was just spraying before we talked okay good jason you got it too no you were Yeah, he got it.

42:08Jason Stewart:I got it. I got it. He did. Before you went to France. I was just talking. Yeah, I was able to throw it into my dop kit. And I was saying on the intro, the first scent out of the three, which is called Melting Flowers, that one was leaning a little too feminine for me. But I used the third one today. And it's a nice little spot. The third one being the... Are you into fragrance? Lubinite. Lubenite was my favorite too, Jason I'm a little bit, but I'm not I'm not a fragrant scent freak person People are too into it, bro I see guys selling off their collections online and it looks like a fucking garage sale It's so sad That's hard To me, it's an escapism and I think some people, their sense of smell really is super crazy and it affects them in another way but I think we're living these insular lives in our home pods and our 300 square foot apartments and the scent is like a way we can have that amazing luxury and you can just keep stimming out on that beautiful whatever it is i agree i agree with that i just think that it's like i don't as a man it's crazy to see people like go into debt and have to sell their collection of fragrances because they can't stop buying i i'm just like i've worn the same thing for 10 years and i'm not gonna change probably what have you worn come to garcon wonderwood it's it's 100 bucks 120 bucks i can get it in any city i'm in kind of that the packaging is fucking annoying because it's coming to garcon so it like has to lay flat it's fucking annoying but i just i don't i've never been and i like like i'm pretty nose sensitive like you know i'm pretty like aware of how things smell how my house smells and shit but i just don't changing seasonally just seems so weird to me as a so You're not really like a beauty consumer then?

44:03No, I'm a beauty consumer. But not in fragrance. Like for me with fragrance, like the thing in my head that like drives everything I do is I think I'm like one product away from being like the hottest, best version of myself. No cap. This is a service I use all the time, Jason, because you know, I'm not like you. I'm not super handy. I don't have a toolbox. Thank God there's TaskRabbit. So when I need some of my art hung or something put together, maybe some shelving units or whatever it may be, I always call TaskRabbit and a nice young person with a backpack stocked with tools and other useful items shows up and takes care of any problem I have.

44:47And the best part is I can search for them based on cost, skill set, availability, client reviews. So I know who's showing up. I know they're going to do a good job. And I know I'm not going to have to, you know, kind of run away when they come inside.

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46:15I see. no matter what so like that's why i'll buy like i have like you know a million fragrances or like a million lotions whatever like i'm like if like if you can make me feel like this one is going to actually you know quiet all the voices in my head this salmon sperm is finally going to be the one

46:35Jason Stewart:that gets okay well does that make sense does that go does that transfer over into clothing Yes. I have a compulsive shopping habit. I love consuming. I feel like it's what I bring to whatever brands I create. The entire process and experience of buying something is really interesting to me and exciting to me. I remember like hearing about, and this is like a sort of third hand story, but like, I guess Steve Jobs was obsessed with this social psych experiment that basically found that like the optimal number of packaging layers to sort of like reach the, you know, to feel like the most luxurious was seven.

47:18Whoa.

47:19Jason Stewart:For like the unboxing of the iMac or whatever it is. Or whatever it was, like the price perception sort of like maximum. I'm not expecting it right. Right. So if you like bought any of the original Mac products, they would have seven. It was like, that's why there was like the vellum and the this and the that. Because like the more you, the more layers you open, the more value you perceived in the product. Like I find that kind of shit really interesting. No, that is interesting. No, that is interesting. I mean, I think beauty consumption is, when you live with a woman, you sort of are. I can't.

47:52How do you do it? I live with one now, and it's like sometimes my husband and I look at each other, we're like, oh my God.

47:59Jason Stewart:Well, cleaning lady doesn't count, buddy. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't count. My daughter, my daughter. Okay. Like one second, she's like screaming in your face. Like, I hate you. And then five seconds later, she's like, you're the most important person to me that I've ever met. But I'm just saying I have everything in my house. And I just sort of don't. I sort of use my stuff. Actually, my friend started a brand called 39BC. Have you seen that? Charmedine. Char. Charmedine, yeah, who I love. Yeah, she's the best. And that shit, that was the last time I was very, like she said at all. I was like, this is really good.

48:35This smells good. It looks amazing. It looks great in the shower. I was really, really impressed with it. but it's not necessarily for me because i like use bar soap i use bar soap but i buy expensive ones that's where i do spend money i like to try out a bar soap i think it's very masculine and normal and i don't want a loofah or whatever you know what i'm saying yeah i was yeah how do you

48:54Jason Stewart:apply body wash to your body are you a goshi are you a rag are you a loofah are you barehanded what's it what's it what what's a goshi what are we what are we doing oh that's uh it's like a japanese loofah towel it's kind of like a microfiber that that um it's like hypoallergenic it's cool and you can you just you squirt it on there and it's just like a wash rag and it exfoliates i just i'm just i hand i i'm a hand apple you know i'm sort of a manual washer i mean i think the the like the weird thing about me is like for as much as i'd love to buy every single thing that's ever launched just to like try it alexis page my friend who's a product developer and i have that in common we'll like just try everything i'm actually not at all vain so i don't like actually care how i look so like i'm not exfoliating i'm not you just love consuming the and the product journey and the user experience more so than being i think that's good and healthy because you're reverse engineering the experience because you are you're a real product opener.

49:59Jason Stewart:I'm a real eater. Chris is a real smeller and you are a real consumer. When is the last time you were really impressed with one of these, something you purchased, the process from soup to nuts? Okay. So Jason, you're in Paris. So there is a place called Maison Bonet, B-O-N-N-E-T. Okay. I was hoping we'd go somewhere like this. Go ahead. You guys and me before I went to Maison Bonet probably thought like, oh, Jacques-Marie Maje, that's the most expensive, nicest sunglasses you can get. Maison Bonet makes Jacques-Marie Maje feel like those clown glasses you got at a bar mitzvah, like the ones that like...

50:40I've been trying to go for years and I just haven't made an appointment, but you're saying it's time. So it's basically, it's a little shop in Paris where they hand make glasses from a variety of materials, certain types of acetate, horn, etc. You have to make an appointment. It is an hour and a half long appointment. And then you have to come back four months later for a final fitting for your glasses in store. They will not send you the glasses without the final fitting. They also have a store in London. But it was more just about this experience that I think the psychology of like the making you making you commit to this, like, firstly an hour and a half long fitting where they're like really evaluating what you look like trying on all different things you have this like this third generation glass maker like you know evaluating you know your face etc and then having to figure out a way to come back what was

51:37Jason Stewart:the what was the ticket what was the ticket yeah for the for the bespoke ocular experience three g's yeah three g's did you do sun or regular i did transition lenses so i could get my goddamn money's worth i like that that's smart have you lost the sunglasses already no not yet no i'm i'm on the mason bonnet website right now and it is they do look great it looks quite nice and i hope one day to own oh yeah those are those are good those are those are really good they're the fucking best sunglasses if they fit like a glove and anyway but it was more just about the experience the like level like i was like oh the new and this sounds stupid but like the new luxury is this like you know you guys travel a lot you can go anywhere to any store and kind of find any brand like luxury brands don't mean anything when you can get them everywhere but like here's one place they don't wholesale you have to go back in four months who's going to paris like enough to like come back in four months but like it was like oh this like this like changes the game in like a very interesting way in like a certain specific category i thought was cool i mean you're the glasses on your head are one of a kind yeah i don't know if it's mary kate or ashley but every time she's wearing sunglasses that you can't identify that are really cool it's it's that you know what i mean they're custom yeah some bonnet whatever it's the lens color the shape it's like it's just something's a little bit weird and it's it's cool yeah i mean i have a lot of great silhouettes so what about yeah what about for you chris like now that you have a brand like What's the last thing that impressed you when you got it or bought it?

53:16Oh, God, shit. Probably the Tesla. Yeah. When I got my first Model 3 in white, in Japan, there was a store that is all vintage glasses. And it's a similar thing where they sort of look at you and bring stuff out for you to try. You don't get to shop, really. And it was pretty amazing. Like, did I need dead stock British aviators with Coke bottle green lenses? No. But it was sick. Like, the whole thing was amazing. And I was pretty underwhelmed with Japan in general. And I just was sort of at my wits end with it. And I think that was like, okay, this is what I was meant to experience. Whether I needed the glasses or not, it was awesome.

53:57Jason Stewart:I need to buy$800 glasses I don't need to make this trip feel okay. $400. That's the thing. $400. That was the other thing. That was only$400. Maybe less, honestly. maybe less maybe like 350. Broke ho shit. Well I guess speaking of glasses um you know I feel a lot of the styles and silhouettes are trending unisex and then a lot of scents are also trending kind of unisex. Is that something that you you try to consider? Is that like where everyone is going nowadays? Or are we still segregating by by gender? Well and race um no I gender I've always say i like this was necessary to like when people would be like is it genderless is it gender neutral is like all these words which like you know as a former like writer like making me up my skin crawl i'm like new who wants anything to be neutral it's like the worst thing you could be but like so i don't believe that like fragrances like i'm not the ones that i've made like are not for a specific gender like i really because i was hoping to sell things on the internet mostly and in store we're going to be in violet gray um i was like i want to create for every like perfume person like every like type so chris you were like you wear wonderwood you like and jason you're not a real perfume person that's why i created lubonite which is like a frankincense and this like roasted seashell accord because it's it's it doesn't smell like perfume it smells like maybe essential oils or like you know something sort of it's really nice and the The one you sent me that's like a sample That's not part of the three That's really nice You said it's chocolate and marijuana Yeah it's cocoa and cannabis Those are your kids names right?

55:41Is that where you got that from?

55:43Jason Stewart:They opened for me on Saturday They're really great kids Okay do you smoke weed? I like a half of an edible At night A half of like a fast acting edible Fast acting fast acting so i'm like i i'm an anxious neurotic person and whenever you go into one of these weed stores and you like take the person's recommendation seriously you'll say i'm anxious and like i want to relax they'll send you to an indica what i didn't understand until scott sternberg our friend scott sternberg told me is that actually you want you i'm an upper guy I'm flying high on by vans all day So I want a sativa And that's what actually Takes the anxiety away Oh really?

56:29Jason Stewart:So sativa, that's like fighting fire with fire It's saying you're a neurotic Jew We're going to neutralize We're going to extinguish the flame Whereas the indica is just going to send you Into more of a psychosis maybe Correct, it's like an indica would be Sort of putting an octopus In like a jelly Where they're trying to It's like, you know, I need something that is going to match my up. I've never thought about that. To match your freak. Your tentacles are frozen. That makes sense, though. I've never heard that before. That's so interesting. What's your meds? Do you guys take meds, like regular meds?

57:03No, not really. I smoke weed.

57:04Jason Stewart:I don't take meds, though, no. I mean, I take like fucking 30 vitamins, but no like. You don't have a good stack. No real shit. Well, I take wellness formula. Maybe some peptides are in play. But yeah, no prescription, anything. Injectable? Yes, honey. Yeah. Do you go to that guy in Silver Lake with the tattoos? No, I don't. But I'd like to hear more about him. I gave a guy in Silver Lake with tattoos like$2 ,500 a few months ago. And I was like, wait, I don't even know what his credentials are. But he just slings peptides. Did it go well for you? No, I got like a crazy, like my lip blew up and I went to urgent care.

57:46And they're like, what do you do? I was like, well, I bought peptides from this guy. They're like, which one? I'm like, I don't know, B-C-T-R-X. They were like, fucking idiot.

57:55Jason Stewart:Okay, so we didn't do our homework that much is what I'm learning. That's okay. Well, at least you tried and you learned. You know, it could have been worse. You could have been wondering forever, you know, if these were going to work. Oh, no, don't get me wrong. I've been on Munjaro for, I was like one of the first people in the world who probably was on it. Yeah. In the world? I think so. You're patient zero, but did you have a fat girl face? Great question. Not really one you have to think about, by the way, Nick. I got to say. During COVID, the world was ending, and I started baking a sheet of cookies every single day.

58:33And hence, eating a sheet of cookies every single day. Three years later, I had gained 50 pounds. Five zero. Five zero. You would look at me and be like, that's not possible. The scale doesn't lie. It was a digital scale. Okay. I gained 50 pounds. I call this very, very well-respected nutritionist. I have an appointment with her. She's written books. She's actually phenomenal. And she suggests like there's this new thing called Ozempic or like whatever. And like, you should try it. So I go to my doctor. He's like, I don't know, like blah, blah. then I like end up finding a doctor who prescribed it to me I lost 50 pounds like I so essentially I'm back to where I was before but also the amazing thing about Munjaro and Ozempic beyond like the weight loss is it like quiets all the food noise sure yeah and you and you're able to focus Jason are you Jewish I'm not Jewish but no you guys are not neither one of you are Jewish so like you guys don't understand Jewish guy food noise oh is it particularly bad for people of the Jewish

59:42Jason Stewart:Well, Chris and I definitely understand food noise, but we know about food noise from food that's actually good. So tell me what it's like with Jewish food. No, it's not about Jewish food. It's about Jewish people. Oh, okay. And just sort of like, should I eat that? If you eat a slice of cake in smaller slices that's fewer calories, the tropes are real. I don't know any of these Jewish tropes. It's like being, I think, it's Jewish and gay. And it's just like, literally, you take a shot and it's all silent. You eat when you're hungry and you don't worry about anything else. And that's like, it's so refreshing.

1:00:19Jason Stewart:It's good for the productivity. You wake up and you're like, I need to check all the stuff off my list versus like, what are we going to do for dinner, babe? Babe, do we have Cheerios or no? When they're like, I forgot to eat. Like, I have now forgotten to eat. But that had never happened before. I know people like that that are naturally inclined to forget to eat and that does feel great but I guess maybe we exercise too much I would never that's just not possible I'm just I'm gonna be hungry like it's not I'm never so busy that I'm like I don't have I don't have time to have a salad you know what I mean really and also we're big boys kinda yeah I'm not big are you how big are we talking I'm six nine I weigh 205 pounds you're six nine does that come with like a shorter life expectancy or are we not at that is that not too tall I'm sure I'm sure I will not live as long because that's like a long way for your I'm going to guess he's got five more years probably five good years I will probably die younger for sure but I'm okay with that I don't care but I live a healthy lifestyle Andre the Giant by the way was much taller than you and he drank like 85 beers and three bottles of vodka a day and pills and all that stuff.

1:01:36Jason Stewart:Oh, really? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. Okay, so you're 6 '9", and what was the LBs? 205. Slim guy. Thank you. But I have, I mean, I was fatter when I was younger. Like, in 2008, I probably had 50 pounds on me because... No, not 50. I don't know. I think I did. But even at 255 at 6 '9", that's like a... When you're 6 '9", you can gain and lose 20 pounds, and my own wife won't notice it. You know what I mean? Really? So it's got to be 50. I see what you're saying. It's got to be 50. So I'm like 5 '9", so gaining 50 was like, I felt like I was wearing a fat suit. Like when I would go upstairs, it felt like a fat suit.

1:02:15It felt like shallow hell.

1:02:16Jason Stewart:Every time you walked up the stairs, somebody went, and I was like, it just didn't feel like my body. Shallow hell. Yeah. Okay, so yeah, like I could gain 20 pounds and I probably won't have to buy new clothes at all. But like at 5 '9", if you gain 50, you got a whole new wardrobe. but you don't even know that it's happening when it's happening because it's COVID you don't even know that it's happening it's COVID and then you start you've always had trainers and shit I'm sure you always exercised I always exercise so obviously that's kind of going out the window I love baking you pick up the alisonroman.com and you're like babe can we buy flour in bulk no do you remember that during COVID when you were having to go buy flour from a restaurant I did all of that.

1:03:03I was a basic bitch. And then sort of like five years, whatever, four years later, woke up and was like, how do I lose 50 pounds? And the answer is drugs.

1:03:14Jason Stewart:You said, I'm not going to do it with hard work. I'll tell you that right now. I don't have time for that. Though I will say that having been patient zero with Munjaro, some of that shit, they didn't really know how to dose it. There was not really microdosing. Early days. So there was like one day where I literally like had worked out. I tried to drink a blueberry smoothie and we had like just moved into our new house and like had done wall to wall like white carpeting in the bedroom. And it was like a cartoon where like I was trying to like keep my throw up from coming out of my mouth. But it was like squirting like blue puke squirting from between my fingers all over the white carpet.

1:03:56my husband comes in he's like what the fuck happened you're you're saying you couldn't keep down a smoothie because like i it was whatever the bad dose like you would like a munjaro is like ozempic with like the edges smoothed off that's wild though that's why but you're right i'm sure if it's early days it's kind of like i don't know man try this and then you're like shit i just yeah i like i just like you would be i'd be so fucking so sick it's also i think really good for like any addictive behavior. Like for the first time when I was on Ozempic, I didn't have a drink for like probably like 10 months.

1:04:31Yeah, yeah, yeah. They say that. I mean, I think there's probably some, I mean, it makes sense. There's some truth to that for sure. Some of us have to raw dog sobriety and it's hell every day, but you know, cheating is rocks, I would say. If you can, yeah. But then it's like, how do you kind of wean off the drug and not onto another, right? Well, there's always something. Well, we always find something. That's the thing. you're filling your soul with many many things from what I've learned in the last hour so that hole is not empty

1:04:59Jason Stewart:once we sell necessary to a venture capital fund then suddenly all those problems will wash away we won't need the Manjaro anymore we won't need cookies anymore no cookies, who cares what I've realized in my 43 years is no matter where you go, there you are real talk bro you sound like the wall at Sun Life Organics right now what the fuck all right so when does sound like my creation chia pudding can i say this correct can you pronounce the new brand name correctly for us uh i can pronounce it incorrectly which is how i pronounce it which is contrapposto but technically in italian it's contrapposto okay um but i'm not italian nor is the brand it's like basically my husband started and i started this as like a medical aesthetics clinic so botox filler lasers etc and we like took my wife is aware oh really oh cool yeah when when the package arrived to the house she's like oh where is that okay all the girlies go here yeah it's on la cienega and between wearing and willoughby in uh west hollywood and basically like i wanted to be like renovated this crazy john elgin wolf building and wanted to create this like top to bottom experience of like like elevating these like treatments into more of a luxury experience and like because if you go to a medispa that has like fluorescent lights on the wall or like you know those like boucle chair you know like that that's like sort of what the landscape was and is and so the idea was like very field of dreams that if we kind of like can build something that has like an aesthetic consistency and that like the product is as good as the as the aesthetic meaning casey's work which is my husband is the injector he's really really good at what he does it's about presume like preserving movement and like dynamism anyway we could build out other product extensions so we're doing i'm doing fine fragrance first launching september 9th and then i have skincare ready to go it's just like the the venture the beauty talk about venture capital like the the venture uh climate right now and chris you've probably seen some of this with what you're doing but like people are trying to invest in the wrong things and like ignoring the right things in my experience you're telling i'm saying bro i got jeans for 155 made in america what the fuck do you do what's your problem they're incredible they're the best oh thank you that i own thank you i like to hear that that's that's a good review thank you do you have an unlimited amount of that denim or like i got worried when i saw on the website i wouldn't say i wouldn't say unlimited but there's there's you know i i would never say unlimited but there's enough i think you know there's enough there's somewhere between limited and unlimited amount of it exactly uh all right nick i was gonna say have you raised money are you trying to raise money uh we raised a little bit of money yeah nothing crazy i mean i think it's like people were like clothes like no and then it's sort of like i think some people got it i think some people really the biggest thing was the price point like people were like oh you can do that and you can make it in america then like let's try it you know and i think luckily i mean i think people it's like anything else that if you care about made in america it's cool if you don't care okay you like the shirt and you buy it it doesn't it's not like you know what i mean it's not that's what i say all the time about sustainability like most people don't care the people that do will buy it and the people that don't like does this fit i want it i'm gonna buy it sustainability it's so funny that we're like as a culture we're totally over it like nobody cares it's completely no one cares packaging is back nobody cares no gives a fuck that was all fake that was all like a three to five year window um but look nick thank you for joining us on how long gone we appreciate it thank you for having me no no our pleasure and i can't wait for this to launch and uh september 9th you said it'll be everywhere online september 9th la in store okay cool promo code chris 10 for those injections yeah yeah chris here and here chris 10 for those smile lines uh all right we will uh you do have to go to maison bonnet i know I will.

1:09:03I'm going to go, I'm going to go in London because I go to London more often. So that feels like a better to go back in four months type thing. All right. Good to see you, bro. We really appreciate it. Thanks, man. We'll talk to you soon. Peace.