Will There Be A De Zerbi Bounce? | The Goalkeeper Dilemma & Tottenham's Damning Numbers (Q&A)

28:27Jack:I mean, I would also hope that given his direct nature, shall we say, he's not going to be somebody that's going to be afraid to say, I don't care if you want to sell Vicario this summer, I'm going to play Austin. I don't care if you've just spent£30 million on Kinski. I don't think Kinski or Vicario are any good. I want to play Austin because he looks all right. He looks like a passable goalkeeper until we get to the summer. I'm not saying that's the exact scenario, but my point is it feels as though, especially under Thomas Frank, we had a manager who would probably very much toe the party line, was probably somebody that was very grateful to have the opportunity, but there's a power shift now.

29:07Jack:There's definitely a power shift. Look, in no uncertain terms, we've had to beg De Zerbi to come and be our manager. Yeah, we have. We've had to beg. We've publicly debased ourselves for this. We've given him, I think he's the third highest paid manager in the Premier League. It's been a very public pursuit. It's been a very public on our knees begging, desperate, come and save us. Come and save this football club. So you would imagine what comes with that is not just the big salary and stuff, is him having a lot of control. You know, I don't know how verified this is or not. I've just seen it floating around on Twitter that he is apparently very much a manager dash director of football.

29:51Jack:That's the role he has taken at Spurs. They've likened it to the Alex Ferguson role at Manchester United, where he does have a say in football operation. He does have a say in transfers that will overrule, say, a Langer or a Van Kutenshin or whoever else comes in. I think some people find that a bit old-fashioned and maybe it's a reflection on me being a bit old-fashioned, but sometimes I like it. I quite like the idea of that. I quite like the idea of a manager who has a very specific plan and a very specific idea in the way he wants to play football, signing the players that he thinks will best match that, will best fit that.

30:31Jack:I'm not so sure why that scene is so archaic. And I get it. I know that it does cause problems down the line because we're talking about building a team that you can bring any manager into the fold and have them manage that situation. But that feels almost a bit binary in itself as well. I think the idea that if Roberto Deserbi signs, you know, a couple of Italian players that he really likes in the Serie A or a couple of Marseille players, hopefully not a certain Marseille player, but a couple of Marseille players or something like that, that whoever it is that comes in after that, probably an aging Pep Guardiola.

31:08Jack:knowing Tottenham Hotspur, wouldn't be able to pick up the pieces. You know, I just, the point is, I think that we have needed somebody for quite some time that is going to be punchy. I do think Tottenham have been, Tottenham as a football club, look, this isn't anything revelatory. Tottenham as a football club have been run as a business for far too long. We haven't been run as a footballing operation. We haven't been run as a side that is really truly invested in the sport that makes us the majority of our money. And that has come back to bite us now, like a thousandfold. But the situation that we're in now, you can, this isn't a freak occurrence.

31:51Jack:It kind of is still a little bit, I think, really, if I'm being brutally honest. But there are still breadcrumbs to this point. You can definitely follow the, or should we say cheesecrumbs? We can follow the crumbs to the cheese room. yeah we can follow the cheese crumbs to tottenham's stinky position they find themselves in right now can i keep this any more fromagey i don't know i probably could um billy t says uh what a link up thank you billy um who would who would you be more likely to add into your team now roberto Deserby is manager. There you go. Shall I get me an FPL question out of it?

32:30I mean, in my full-on, let's get behind Tottenham piece, this shows that I am not an FPL expert, I, last week, for the Forest game, brought Richarlison and Romero into my team, thinking they're going to be up for the cup final. Kind of wish I hadn't done that. Kind of wish I hadn't done that. But that's going to be really interesting in the forward position, I think more than anything, because I think under Tudor immediately, we were like, just hang it all on Richie because actually he feels like the guy that's going to get us out of this mud. I don't feel like he really fits too well for Deserby in terms of what he would expect.

33:11I would almost, I would much more expect that Solanke would be more Deserby number nine than I would, would Richarlison. Or be, I don't know. I just, every, time I watched Dom I just don't think just don't think he's right just doesn't feel like he moves

33:27Jack:well at all at the moment he looks all right for England which kind of annoyed me again the other day but you know he looked all right when he came on against the Fletico didn't he like obviously the goal was taken really well and I just felt did but but I know what you mean I think he's completely injury free no and I I kind of feel like he lacks that killer instinct a little bit as well sometimes sometimes dom um but i do think he's a very good player that's the thing he's kind of he's one of those players that i would rather not be facing because i would know that i i i pretty much bracket him almost entirely with dominic calvert lewin i think that i think there's just from my sort of itis where i think they're actually remarkably similar i think slank is a bit better than him well truth be told but i think they're quite similar in that they're neither of them are set in the world alight but at the same time I don't think anybody wants to play against either of them because they're just they're difficult players I think a bit nicer in that sense like you say he is a bit nice for it you know under Deserby from an old FPL perspective the players that you wanted actually So under the sort of like 4-2-3-1, he played March and Matoma as wide guys that really were the output people, the guys that would be involved in the goals.

34:58One of the things that he used to do was a lot of arriving at the back post for both of them. Ironically, probably someone like Brendan Johnson could have done that right wing well quite well in terms of just turn up at the back post and put the ball in the net. but so you know Tao and Kudus could play those roles particularly well for us I think just I'm absolutely desperate to just see Kudus back on the pitch because I think he's probably our best chance of survival

35:28Jack:that's a not so secret weapon isn't it really the idea of him coming back into the fold Kudus is the guy that I'm just incredibly hopeful for that we have back but Kudus and Tao I can see working really well around the striker be interesting to see what he does in number 10 position. So McAllister used to score a lot of goals coming into that 10 role, but he used to come at it from quite a deep role where he would often drop into the midfield in a free, certainly in defense and certainly in sort of build-up, and then arrive late. And I feel like that sort of McAllister role probably is more suited to, say, Bergvau, I think probably more than anybody else.

36:11you could even have to say Gray could do that I think more I was quite interested to ask you yeah

36:18Jack:sorry just what this what Deserby's appointment would mean for Archie Gray because obviously we've seen him deployed in a variety of different positions do you have a steer on how you think he'd best utilise Gray I think it could be that I think it could be one the interesting bit what does it mean for Xavi Simons but he like to have more power almost through that through that 10 role as I said often often coming to meet the ball with a head or rather than necessarily like run onto the shot and I think we've seen it more and more recently with Grey as he's as K-pop Demon Hunters Hajaboy's Breakfast Meal and Huntrix Meal have just dropped at McDonald's they're calling this a battle for the fans what do you say to that Rumi?

37:07it's not a battle So glad the Saja boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day. It is an honor to share.

37:14Jack:No, it's our honor. It is our larger honor. No, really. Stop. You can really feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side. A participating McDonald's while supplies last. It's just become like the central point for us of quite often he is turning up in the box. Like, I just think he's got great football brain. Archie Gray, you can feel it, doesn't he? He knows when to drop, he knows when to cover the fullback, he knows when to sit, and I've seen more and more recently that he knows when to get into the box. And it wouldn't surprise me, it seems weird to think of him as potentially like a 10, but he wouldn't be almost listed as a 10.

37:56He would almost be listed as one of the midfield two. But what you'll often see is one of those midfield two will crash the box a significant amount. And that's maybe that he then has, say, Xavi Simons as the official 10, but with more of an instruction to watch Gray. And actually what you'll see is quite often is Xavi Simons is the 10 and Gray behind him. And actually what you'll see is Xavi Simons will sort of drop towards more the edge of the box. So he's still playing more of a creative role and Gray will overlap looking to be almost that support striker. I think that works. I think one of the things is we've seen from Xavi Simons is that he's not particularly strong, is he?

38:40He's kind of not the guy you want in a knife fight in the box. You want someone a bit bigger. So I think that suits Bergvau or Gray. That's probably one of those two guys that would be aggressive in playing around Solanke. So I think one of those two, I don't think it particularly suits Saar. Sar's probably the one when I look at our midfield guys where I feel like I don't I don't see it being you Interesting He might also use Gallagher in this role by the way is if you if you wanted to watch back any of the Palace games where where where Gallagher was at Palace he very often Gallagher played as the number 10 He scored quite a few Palace didn't he?

39:27Huge amount of goals He basically never touched the ball. It was a very strange role that he played at Palace. Genuinely, you know, I remember we used to talk about it regularly, as I said, because we used to watch every bloody game, and you used to be like, is he allergic to the ball? Because you'd look at his stats and there'd be nothing there. You'd look at like heat maps and you'd be like, he hasn't touched the ball. I don't understand it, but he scored. So he was really hard to almost like predict in a fantasy world of, do I get this guy in? Because all his stats look absolutely abysmal, yet he seems to be scoring every week.

39:56and it was actually what he just did was incredible at pressing as a number 10 so he's a really defensive number 10 in that he just hurried hurried hurried hurried hurried and then he would just be a support striker um when the ball was in the box so the only times he would touch the ball would be i'm going to poke the ball in the net um and he was really good at that if you think about all the things that we all criticize him for he didn't do any of those like when he had his best season He didn't do progressive passing. He wasn't good on the ball. He wasn't, you know, what do they call him in a flake?

40:28They called him like the pit bull or something like that. He wasn't any of that. He just bothered defenders and then worked his way into the box when needed. And that really worked around a guy. Zaha was obviously the main creative outlet, very similar to Tell. And I can't remember who was up front at the time. I know he was big. I don't know if it was Penteke. Was it Penteke's time or was he? Had he gone by then? Probably gone by then.

40:52Jack:When was he there? 2021? Yeah. 2021-22. Yeah, I'll work it out. But they definitely had a big number nine. All I'm going to say is, fellas definitely had a big number nine at the time. And he just worked off it. So he could be used in that role. I don't see him using Gallagher as like his sitting number six. Jack C says, a lot of talk on pods that our players need more of an arm around the shoulder, simple style than what Roberto De Zerbi brings. Isn't the main issue that we've been basically doing that since peak Ange? Hasn't this squad shown that it's most effective when committed to an attacking front foot game plan?

41:33Yeah, so I do think the only way we get out of this under De Zerbi is outscoring. Like, it is the only way. Like, I do not see him shoring up at the fence. I feel it will have to be front foot play. It's going to be really interesting because the French league, so the French league has virtually no lean into on set plays like we do. So on average in Ligue 1 is round about 15 % to 20 % of the total expected goals come from set plays. Now, Marseille was 15 % or 13 % sorry, 13 % of all of their goals. creation came from set plays that would be bottom in the premier league um along with man city so it doesn't necessarily mean you're rubbish if you're if you're doing it but but you've got to be good in the open world if if if you're not leaning into set plays but as a league they just don't put anywhere near the focus that in premier league is just set please so so i think there's some things that would just disappear completely would be shocked if we ever saw a dance so long

42:44Jack:throw again i think that would just be like gone it's never worked either it's never i don't think i've seen it once that's just not that's uh medium froze have you seen his agents been piping up again lately by the way no i haven't his agent saying that he's got offers from saudi for 50 million pounds a season or something but he's turning it down because he's focused on playing like real football or something you know just shut up just shut up now mate but yeah that's that's going to be fascinating in a world of you know where everybody else is trying to like slow the ball down and be like i'm going to concentrate on my corner routines and take 10 minutes over doing them and i've frozen so forth deserve is not of that game now that it that could just massively backfire it could massively backfire but it could also be the thing that gets up off our seats because you feel that even if you're watching on tv when we're losing and you're watching dan so rub the towel with the ball and so forth you can't help but get full-on old man of just get the ball in the box um type stuff so i do think there is get in the mixer just what are you doing with this towel boy like just throw it down and kick it in you know i do think there is a lot that might appeal to us as fans when we stop seeing three minutes over every corner, when we stop seeing, and actually that might disjoint opponents as well more.

44:20I always think when we're doing that throw, you're like, we're actually just giving the defenders time to breathe again and get organized. I say that's one of the reasons why we never break on a team because they're never disrupted.

44:38i'm having to try and tell myself somehow it might work i think this is it now isn't it this is

44:44Jack:we just have to all we can do now is just believe pray whatever i i look mate i can't i can't face the idea of spurs going down i really can't and i i've looked at it face on and i talk about it on here but i still kind of if i'm if i'm brutally honest there's still i know there's still that little bit behind my eyes that's like spurs aren't gonna go down spurs aren't gonna go down we can't go down we can't have a year in the championship but i mean it's it's a very real potential now should we say at least like it's not just fanciful it's not just kind of doom mongering we are you We're in an incredibly bad place and we just have to now hope that this roll of the dice that they've made on bringing Deserby in now at this point in the season is going to work, that he's going to surprise us all, that he's going to show that he can galvanize a team and work his magic in a short space of time.

45:46Jack:Because otherwise, you know. I noted the other day that the Opta supercomputer has... Oh, what's it up to now? It's always got something. It's always Neggin Tottenham, isn't it? Bloody robot. Well, it's not. It's gone a little bit of a race. Oh, I know. It's a Deserby appointment. Sorry, I bow to our robot overlords. We were nearly on 40 % chance of relegation after the Forest game. And now it shows us 27 % chance of relegation. And is that a Deserby amendment? I don't know. I can only assume so, because that's what it is today. is so it currently has West Ham with a 57 % chance of relegation and us at 27, Forrest at eight and Palace, sorry, Leeds at six.

46:36It has us expected to get one and a half more points than West Ham and two, but it's two points behind Forrest. So what that is saying is I can't take this, mate. We will be facing into this on last game of the season.

46:56Jack:Oh, God. That's what this says. That is disgusting. That is worse than... This says it's not over. At least it's not Chelsea relegating us, right? That's one thing. At least it's not Chelsea relegating us.

47:15Trying to get my head around both that Chelsea game and then the home game against Everton. I don't think we should be talking about it right now. I agree.

47:23Jack:I agree. I foolishly regularly go on a Forrest pod to do like previews, like opposition view. But that's fun. Well, this season, I think I've been on six times. Once I went on because they asked me to come on and talk about what it's like under Ange. And it's fair to say the Forrest fans did not like that at the time because they were like, no, no, this is a Tottenham thing. And then a few weeks later, they were like, oh, yeah. Oh, right. Yeah. and then obviously I had to go on last week and then we were doing I've gone on and done like a relegation special for them but when you'll then start to play through these games you're like that three games to go period home Leeds, away Chelsea, home Everton I mean we just need like four or five wins we just got to somehow just do something mental and just even just two wins just win this week, next week, whenever it is next week.

48:17Jack:Just win every game win them all win all win all all of the games all of them imagine if we did imagine if we did that where would we finish in the table then finish probably top six did you the same Deserby actually said that was basically he didn't say I'll save us from relegation he basically said I'll come in and we'll work towards as high of the table as we can get for the rest of the season that's that's the sort of that's the chat you need to have isn't it really at this point I wouldn't say I'll come in and he said I'll come in and work as as high up the table as you can for the rest of this season and I was like I just want one more place do you do you because you know there's a lot of the stuff you know they announced a couple of weeks ago that you know Newcastle is going to be moved to a category B fixture next season people said maybe we won't even be playing Newcastle next season we've announced the down under tour yeah we're doing our down under tour it's like a championship club doing a down under tour the championship season starting just a few days after we're supposed to be getting back and as much as i get it i know people are saying this is bad but maybe it's good in a way maybe it's good that the club aren't considering even considering that they might be a championship club next year yeah you kind of have to do that don't you i guess in a way we're doing it ourselves yeah the hilarious bit is we moan we're going to moan about them doing it but we're all doing it we're all doing it we're all just looking at this week the big issue i don't know if you realize this but again i have to look at all the bloody fixtures to know this but i don't know if you know that but west ham play next friday night first game of the week so the problem is is west ham go first and they're home to walls next friday night wolves are on the up so let's hope but if they win by the time we play on the sunday we are cut well adrift in allegations though.

50:09Jack:Jesus, West Ham leads in a FA Cup quarterfinal. What an abysmal... How are we not there when those two are? Oh, we just... I mean, you know when people say they don't wish injury on anyone? I wish injury on everyone in that game. No, ACLs all over the shop. Just, you know. Or maybe hamstrings. That's a bit less cruel, isn't it? A something, a six to eight week grade two hamstring tear. Who are we hoping for? Bowen? Who's that really... Who's that incredible player West Hamer signs that midfielder yeah oh my god what a player what a player Somerville if he's back yeah definitely get him back out decent yeah decent player sorry big Joe Roden but you need to go yeah get rid DCL yeah stack anti-stack you can go let me ask you about this this is because we do have a few more questions but one thing I did want to ask you is that John Bass made a really good point in the fighting cock the other day that Van Der Ven and Romero are pretty good footballers right they're pretty good football I think Romero is an exceptional defender to be honest I know he's frustrating and I know he can be prone to folly should we say but I do think he's the closest thing we have to an elite player probably in our team really um van der Ven not so much personally speaking but his point was that even though Danso may not kind of be as flashy as either of those two Danso just seems like a more solid and I guess this kind of throws back to our goalkeeper conversation we were having earlier that danza just seems to be like a solid really good defender that he would want to see play in all of these type of games i say this because just because you've just mentioned joe road and they're a player who we you know cast our eye over he never really broke through at spurs never made anything of an impression but is having a very good career now at leeds and he's always done well for the for the national team as well are we right now are we in a position where we need just solid performers who aren't flashy who aren't gonna have manchester city or bayern munich knocking on our door for them with no disrespect to kevin dan so there's this there's a certain comfort there's a certain assurance that players like him like ben davis i think has always given us even though people he's much maligned and people are always digging him out and saying he's part of the reason why the club are in this position I couldn't disagree more with that position personally speaking but you know how do you stand on Danso versus say I mean really it's Van de Ven we're talking about isn't it yeah I I think it's gonna be very interesting to see what De Zerbe does in that sense you know the fact that he's got this longer contract now it's not really just a seven game you know shot at this he's going to be looking at guys he can take with him into next season type stuff and that that was like i wonder if that means that he would be more leaning towards dan so and thinking that van der ven's probably off anyway uh like you say i think romero is is almost a non-negotiable i think he will play i do think the idea that we'll play short from the keeper quite a lot more often i think probably leads more to you'd have the left and right guys and so you would have van der ven and and and romero as opposed to dan so i'm in the opinion I really like Danso, and I think he has done an incredible job for us.

53:29I would not be surprised if he plays one of Danso or Pelinia, as in one dogged guy, whether it be, and I wouldn't be more surprised if we went Van der Ven and Romero, but then chucked in old Guy Pelinia in centre midfield, which I think probably would probably annoy more people than necessarily at the moment dropping Van de Ven to play Danso. I just wouldn't be surprised if we have one of those guys whose job is just boot it, head it, do what you need to do. And I just wonder whether... We're in the mud, aren't we?

54:10Jack:We need that. We're in the mud. I think we'll have one of those guys, Earth, Polini or Danso, that you go, we are in the mud and your job is to try and help us get out of the mud. And I just wonder whether it's better to be Paulina than it is to be Van der Ven. Because I think what we'll see is, I don't think we'll see, I don't think we've got the midfielders for a lot of central progression anyway. So even if you went, oh, well, I don't have him, who else do I put in that? What, are you going to put Gallagher in there? I think it's going to, and you're like, well, that's not going to make it suddenly incredible.

54:42We just haven't got a deep line playmaker. That's one of the issues, full stop. So it wouldn't surprise me if you went more baller at centre-back with Van der Venner Romero and maybe Destinian and then Porra outside it and said, actually, I'll use these guys to get that ball down the wings to kudos and tell and just have a sitter in the middle. but I'm never upset when Danso's on the pitch but part of my reason I've not been upset is all I really want Vicario to do when Vicario's on the pitch is just go long just head it, just boot it and what he was able to do Danso fit quite well under Tudor because if you played Richarlison and Solanke you could go a lot longer in all of your goal kicks and just play for knockdowns and move up the pitch whereas actually if you want progression from the back you never felt particularly comfortable when Danso was on the ball and people started to press him, you were like, oh God, what's going to happen now?

55:36Jack:Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. That's very fair. All right, let's... All right, we'll do this one quickly. Fred Gruff says, have Spurs pulled a bit of a masterstroke by recruiting in advance a Premier League manager to guide us out of the championship? I imagine attracting decent management would be a lot harder if we wait until after we were relegated. I mean, that's hopeful, Fred, isn't it? Yeah. I mean this is working on the assumption that Deserby literally doesn't just say no actually I'm out of here I don't care about relegation release clause Yeah look I definitely was not in favour of the appointment of Deserby if anyone wants to see my view on that I did that on our part you can go look at it just go through it we've all talked about it repeatedly our feelings on what's happened my view is if we do go down I mean I'd like Langer and been I to go anyway, really.

56:33That's what I'd quite like to happen. But I think if we go down, as you talked about, I don't think they realise just how ridiculous and how wild that will be from Tottenham fans. And therefore, do I think it ends up that we end up losing everybody in summer? Yeah. Burn the club down time. So, I suspect, I still don't expect, I don't expect to see Deserby managing the championship. I just don't think we need to think about that. We've just got to think about Bloody Sunderland.

57:03Jack:Well, yeah. Yes. Yes. There's a guy, I don't know if you have a comment. John Benfield? John's, we know John. He says, do you? Old friend John, yes. He says, would Baker eat cucumber every day for a year if it meant Spurs stay up? I'm assuming you don't like cucumber from this. I do have quite the phobia of cucumber. Well, that's definitely for another time. Yeah, if I had to. If I had to. I think that I wouldn't. We could definitely do a lot of talk about what would you do for Tottenham staying up right now. That would get dark, I think. We'd get dark. If we were to keep it non-salacious, let's say.

57:46Jack:I'm trying to think about things I would... We talk about things we would eat. Things I particularly hate. Baked beans. I just buy it. I hate baked beans. How much baked beans would you eat? You know when people used to see that old bath of baked beans? Would you do a whole bath of baked beans? Like over how much time? You can't get out of the bath. You've got to be in the bath with the beans. You can't get out of the bath and TV and all the beans. To have eaten all the beans around me. I mean, that's just going to get... Can we exist in some sort of physical realm where the beans stay fresh at least?

58:19Jack:Would you want them warm, cold? I think if I had to choose, I'd want them warm. But then I'm worried about myself in said warm beans. I mean, there's too many variables to this, Baker. What would you eat the beans with if you were in a bath of beans? My hands. I'd have to just get involved and get it over and done with. Get it over and done with. The thing is, the more you eat your hands, the beans would crush up. And then when you've got mushy beans, that feels worse. I want to protect the form of the bean. I'd also start to worry about the beans I'm sat on as well. that because you know that's maybe if i'm sat in the bath and the beans are poured onto me then that would avoid some of that um would i be allowed to have swimming shorts on you know this is another question i guess i mean we had to ask the question clothed or not clothed yeah true i mean i think for hygiene purposes you'd probably say you're you're slightly on a on a better one if you have some kind of speedos speed well yeah a speedo or like a boiler suit Like an American Psycho style boiler suit, you know?

59:21Jack:Yeah. Somebody who's in crock that. Yeah. Yeah. Please don't. No, anybody needs to see that. But yeah, we see what you do. You know, I'm not the biggest fan of cucumber, I would say. But if you are making cucumber, what somebody told me you can do that makes it taste like not as cucumber-y, it's like when you chop them in half, if you scrape the pips out of them, scrape the like watery pit bits out, you chop them up, it becomes more just, you know, celery. the type of celery if you dislike cucumber the worst thing that people tell all the time it's mostly water or it doesn't taste to anything it absolutely stinks and it absolutely tastes to cucumber like it's not it tastes to cucumber yeah it doesn't taste to nothing that's why like people taste like various melons and they go oh it tastes a bit like cucumber you're like you're the same sort of people that say cucumber doesn't taste to anything it tastes plenty see I always say I always say that cucumber tastes to melon but they are related apparently so you know there you go Cucumber is a type of melon, if you like.

1:00:19As your child gets older, then my son quite likes the CBeebies, Roots and Fruits. And you can pick up lots of family-related stuff. That's one for you to get into.

1:00:32Jack:Okay. What, like, as in, like, random factoids and the like? It's like, basically, the Royal Albert Hall, and every day a fruit comes on and sings on stage. Get yourself into a bit of Roots and Fruits, mate. that's that's definite viewing for you it's it's mostly just bluey is the one that people are sort of saying like you know you'll get into oh yeah it's textbook roots and fruits is for the for the weird is that is that real that's that's real like top tier niche art house david lynch style kids what was that old cartoon was it like salad fingers or whatever it was do you remember that i do on what was it b3ta yeah yeah well it's like a version of that but on cbb's roots and fruits that's the one to get to was it joel veitch was it who did salad fingers who was it that did salad fingers i thought it was joel no david firth that's who it was david firth um but joel veitch did similar stuff too all that and you know buffy buffy swearing keyboard remember all that that was always a good one we've descended we have descended um much like other parts of me will when spurs like our football club going into our going into our last game of the season against everton everything will be descended there mate if we are if it if it is as the supercomputer thing says it's all going to come down to that game we're not built for that i'm not there'll be us live streaming it me with a bucket of cucumbers you in a bath of beans getting people to vote if i should be naked or not you know getting my getting my channel perma band all that oh dear um so we're not when this is when we're in a brave new world baker we're in a brave new world but i appreciate you uh coming on and uh being the aladdin to my jasmine and experiencing this with me on my magic carpet ride through Tottenham's relegation.

1:02:26Jack:It's a pleasure. If people don't know where to follow you, don't know where to listen to you, don't know where to pick up FPL tips, where should they do that? So we have a podcast called Above Average FPL which is me and Adam. We do a stream every Sunday night, where we will talk about the weekend's action which is always good when Tottenham are going to choose on a Sunday and then we have to talk about it immediately so yeah halfway on a Sunday if you want to do the sort of like team selection stuff we'll also do that during the week on Thursday night Twitter is at Baker FPL 343 or at Above Average FPL much love mate thank you cheers buddy

1:03:21Thank you.