Podcast · 210 episodes

The Rest Is Money

by Goalhanger · English

Robert Peston and Steph McGovern bring you insightful business and finance stories. Join Robert Peston and Steph McGovern as they delve into the key challenges and opportunities facing today’s business world. From the complexities of tech investments to the impact of political decisions on global markets, this podcast offers valuable perspectives on current financial topics. Whether discussing business funding, economic policies, or corporate strategies, they provide listeners with the tools to understand today’s fast-evolving market. Each episode brings expert analysis on important issues, including market regulations, economic recovery, and the forces shaping the future of work. Robert and Steph bring you the latest insights from influential leaders and top entrepreneurs, making this podcast a must-listen for anyone interested in business growth, financial trends, and the evolving economic landscape. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com.

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318. What’s the cost of Andy Burnham's big plans?The episode debates Andy Burnham’s Labour conference speech and whether its “hope again” message will translate into economic delivery for British living standards.30 Sep 2026 · 36 min

317. Why the UK must not drop climate leadershipNick Stern argues the UK must keep climate leadership and accelerate “net zero” policies, framing green investment as a growth, security, and health strategy rather than a costly sacrifice.27 Sep 2026 · 1 h 1 min

316. Why the world’s economic glue is becoming unstuckThe “glue” of the global economy—just-in-time supply chains, shipping routes, and financial/energy flows—is becoming more fragile due to war-driven disruptions (Gulf/Strait of Hormuz, Ukraine/Russia…24 Sep 2026 · 47 min

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315. Why we should all care about Japan’s rising ratesThe episode explains why rising interest rates in Japan and the US could threaten global financial stability, focusing on how US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent’s efforts to push down US borrowing…20 Sep 2026 · 1 h · 18 chapters

314. Why do the tech bros really want more regulation?Debate over whether “tech bros” want more AI regulation for genuine safety or for competitive/market reasons, amid recent AI “rogue” incidents, doom warnings, and stock-market drops.16 Sep 2026 · 39 min · 14 chapters

313. Ruth Curtice: middle earners need to be taxed moreUK fiscal “headroom” for meeting budget rules amid higher gilt yields; whether the government must raise taxes, especially on middle earners, to fund defence/social care and avoid lender panic.13 Sep 2026 · 35 min · 13 chapters

312. What's missing from Healey's growth plan?The episode reviews UK Chancellor John Healy’s first major growth speech and argues it’s missing a credible plan to fix public finances and borrowing costs.9 Sep 2026 · 42 min · 18 chapters

311. Why is the US debt crisis a big problem for Burnham?The episode examines fears of a global financial crisis driven by inflation from the Iran conflict, rising government borrowing costs, and competition for bond buyers as US big tech funds AI with…6 Sep 2026 · 41 min · 11 chapters

310. Gordon Brown: ‘I’d tell Trump he’s unpopular’Gordon Brown’s book The Future Starts With Us argues that economic revival depends on rebuilding “civic infrastructure” (local organizations, youth centers, shared public spaces) alongside tackling…2 Sep 2026 · 46 min · 12 chapters

309. Why we’re wasting our time predicting the future of AIEpisode 309 argues that predicting AI’s future is unreliable and potentially harmful, citing research that experts perform no better than monkeys throwing darts.30 Aug 2026 · 46 min · 13 chapters

308. The 4 challenges (and the biggest opportunity) facing the new PMConversation about what’s needed for UK recovery under new PM Andy Burnham, focusing on four challenges: (1) civil service reform for an AI world, (2) welfare and tax reform amid job displacement,…26 Aug 2026 · 47 min · 16 chapters

307. The world’s most influential economist: how we can deliver "worker-friendly AI"Interview with Nobel economist Daron Acemoglu on “worker-friendly AI”: how AI should be shaped to complement workers, avoid mass job loss, and support liberal democracy; includes education and…23 Aug 2026 · 26 min · 10 chapters

306. The world’s most influential economist: Tax wealth and break up big techEpisode 306 is an interview with Nobel economist Daron Acemoglu about the crisis of liberal democracy and how to revive shared prosperity.19 Aug 2026 · 32 min · 8 chapters

305. The Apprentice Unicorn - Euan Blair on rewiring investment and trainingInterview with Multiverse founder Ewan Blair on UK apprenticeships, AI workforce training, education reform, and why British investors fund tech less than US investors.16 Aug 2026 · 45 min · 19 chapters

304. Why Burnham’s best economic policy would be “do nothing”The episode argues that the best economic policy for a leader like Andy Burnham would be “do nothing,” because the UK’s private sector is already in good financial shape; the main problem is a…12 Aug 2026 · 50 min · 19 chapters

303. Why making schools truly comprehensive is vital for our economyThe episode argues that schools should be truly comprehensive by giving vocational/technical education equal status to academic routes, starting earlier than age 14, and embedding work experience and…9 Aug 2026 · 1 h 2 min · 26 chapters

302. Can the West bridge the gap with China, India and the BRICs+ nations?Whether the West (G7/NATO countries) can bridge the gap with China, India, and BRICS+ nations, given shifting global economic power and dysfunctional global governance.5 Aug 2026 · 38 min · 14 chapters

301. Why the US won't stop China in the AI raceThe episode argues that China’s AI should be taken seriously despite US advantages like export controls on chips.2 Aug 2026 · 52 min · 19 chapters

300. Does Burnham get AI?UK AI sovereignty and policy changes after DSIT’s dismantling; AI infrastructure (data centers, energy, grid); “sovereignty” framed as value capture, control of critical inputs, and having a seat at…29 Jul 2026 · 43 min · 12 chapters

299. Trump’s new tariffs - can anyone win a trade war?Trump’s new, broad US import tariffs (10–12.5%) on about 60 trading partners, including the UK, framed around forced-labor enforcement after a Supreme Court ruling struck down earlier tariffs as…26 Jul 2026 · 47 min · 17 chapters

298. Why Healey as Chancellor? And can he find the money?The episode discusses Andy Burnham’s surprise choice of John Healey as Chancellor, why he’s seen as qualified (Treasury experience under Gordon Brown, plus defence, housing, local government and…21 Jul 2026 · 42 min · 13 chapters

297. How do we reshape our workforce in the AI era?How the UK should reshape its workforce in the AI era—preventing worker displacement while accelerating “new task creation,” pro-worker AI adoption, and regional job growth (e.g., Tech Towns like…19 Jul 2026 · 39 min · 15 chapters

296. Gary Stevenson- how would a wealth tax help those on low incomes?Economist Gary Stevenson discusses whether a proposed 2% wealth tax on assets of £10m+ can help people on low incomes, arguing inequality is driven by the shift from taxing wealth (pre-1980s) to…15 Jul 2026 · 37 min · 19 chapters

295. Jim O’Neill – The man shaping BurnhamomicsInterview with Jim O’Neill on what economic priorities Andy Burnham should pursue as UK Prime Minister, focusing on “sacred cows” blocking long-term fiscal sustainability, and on devolution plus…12 Jul 2026 · 48 min · 20 chapters