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Podcast · 52 episodes

The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia

by Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni · English

As former Stanford roommates and now business partners, Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni share their experience as startup founders and the complexities of being young professionals—from financial literacy, social impact, and navigating networking (ever been hit on through LinkedIn?). With exclusive access to top experts, they offer an inside look at their chaotic lives alongside career insights from their network of thought leaders. Watch The Burnouts pursue their dreams while trying to keep their lives from going up in flames. Will they burn out? We’ll find out.

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Gloria Steinem's Unreleased Interview: Life Lessons for the Next GenerationGloria Steinem’s “unreleased interview” on leadership, mission-driven teams, staying true to values, career vs.14 Sep 2026 · 18 min · 13 chapters
Why Most People Lose Arguments (Sales Tricks That Made Shelby Sapp $1M/Month at 24)How sales builds confidence and income; how to win negotiations/arguments using sales-style framing; remote “high-ticket” closing vs door-to-door.7 May 2026 · 36 min · 21 chapters
Shark Tank Icon: Turning $1,000 to $1Billion! (ft. Barbara Corcoran)Barbara Corcoran reflects on failures, resilience, and how leaving a cheating husband helped her build and sell the Corcoran Group for $66 million; she also shares her investing and leadership…23 Apr 2026 · 29 min · 17 chapters
What Really Happens at Billionaires' Private Parties (Michael Rubin)Michael Rubin discusses building Fanatics/Fanatics Fest, why relationships drive business (especially in crises), the “White Party” as a curated networking event, and how he and allies transformed…9 Apr 2026 · 30 min · 16 chapters
Dating 101 as an Ambitious Woman: How to Seduce Anyone (ft. Chloe Shih)Chloe Shih (Forbes 30 Under 30; content creator; host of The Joy of Missing Out) shares dating/flirting advice and her relationship success story with husband Kevin, emphasizing early couples therapy…26 Mar 2026 · 23 min · 13 chapters
Billionaire Makeup Artist Spills the Kardashians' Beauty Secrets & How Celebs get Perfect FacesIn this episode, Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni host Anastasia Soare, the founder of Anastasia Beverly Hills, discussing her journey from communist Romania to building a billion-dollar beauty empire…12 Mar 2026 · 50 min · 23 chapters
Alex Cooper: The TRUTH About Call Her Daddy and my $100M+ Media EmpireThe Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia5 Mar 2026 · 42 min · 16 chapters
Celebrity Stylist: How To Stand Out, Style Celebrities & 10-min Morning Fashion Upgrade (Rachel Zoe)In this episode, celebrity stylist Rachel Zoe shares insights on building a standout career in fashion and offers practical frameworks for dressing with less stress and more impact.26 Feb 2026 · 37 min · 18 chapters
Money Expert: Quit Your 9-5 and Get Rich the Easy Way. This is What I Did. (ft. Sahil Bloom)In this episode of The Burnouts, hosts Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni interview Sahil Bloom, a New York Times bestselling author and former private equity professional, who shares his transformative…19 Feb 2026 · 45 min · 26 chapters
Fashion Design Expert: How to Make Iconic Outfits & Make It Big in Fashion (Rebecca Minkoff)In this episode, Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni interview Rebecca Minkoff, a prominent fashion designer known for her global brand built from humble beginnings.12 Feb 2026 · 39 min · 15 chapters
Duolingo CEO: How to Brainwash Yourself to Success and Get Addicted to Learning. Follow these habitsPhoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni5 Feb 2026 · 40 min · 19 chapters
The TOP Lessons from Building a $185M Business (Sophia Kianni & Phoebe Gates)In this episode, Phoebe and Sophia discuss key lessons learned from successful individuals, celebrating milestones of their startup Phia, and the importance of relationships in business.29 Jan 2026 · 17 min · 7 chapters
The Money Expert: 5 Businesses That Can Make You RICH (Without a 9-to-5!) ft. Codie SanchezHow to get rich without a 9-to-5 by buying/starting “unsexy” businesses, using contrarian investing, and building career value to negotiate higher pay.15 Jan 2026 · 1 h 5 min · 29 chapters
$400M Investor Explains the Confidence Gap Holding You Back (ft. 20VC Harry Stebbings)Harry Stebbings (20VC) explains how “confidence gap” thinking, distribution, and relentless content packaging drive venture outcomes; he argues founders must enjoy repeated rejection and build…8 Jan 2026 · 46 min · 34 chapters
How NASCAR Driver Toni Breidinger Went From Delivering Groceries to Modeling for Victoria’s SecretPhoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni1 Jan 2026 · 46 min · 32 chapters
How a Homeless Immigrant Invented the Tube Top and Built a Billion-Dollar Fashion EmpireIn this engaging episode, hosts Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni welcome fashion icon Elie Tahari and his son, Jeremey Tahari, for a deep dive into Elie's remarkable journey from a homeless immigrant…18 Dec 2025 · 35 min
How a Pregnant Mom Built $2 Billion Soda Brand Poppi From Her Kitchen (ft. Allison Ellsworth)Founder of Poppi, prebiotic soda brand.11 Dec 2025 · 38 min
Meet the Cult Gaia Founder Who Turned Rejection Into a $50 MILLION BrandIn this episode of "The Burnouts," hosts Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni interview Jasmin Larian Hekmat, the visionary behind Cult Gaia.4 Dec 2025 · 37 min
Meet the Oxford Student Who Built Three Multimillion-Dollar Brands by 25 (ft. Grace Beverley)In this episode of *The Burnouts*, hosts Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni interview Grace Beverley, a young entrepreneur who has successfully built three multimillion-dollar brands—TALA, Shreddy, and…27 Nov 2025 · 32 min
How Steve Madden Went From College Dropout to Billion Dollar Fashion Mogul With Only $1,100In this episode of The Burnouts, hosts Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni interview Steve Madden, the founder of the renowned footwear brand, Steve Madden.20 Nov 2025 · 43 min
How a Stay-at-Home Mom Built the $255 Million Drybar Empire (ft. Alli Webb)In this episode, Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni interview Alli Webb, the founder of Drybar, who transformed a simple blowout idea into a $255 million beauty empire.13 Nov 2025 · 46 min
Founder of Sporty & Rich: How To Build A $50 Million Empire At 26 (Emily Oberg)The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia6 Nov 2025 · 33 min
From Homeless Teen To Millionaire Founder: Simon Squibb Reveals How To Change Your Life FastIn this episode, Simon Squibb shares his extraordinary journey from a homeless teenager to a multi-millionaire entrepreneur.30 Oct 2025 · 37 min
Bryan Johnson: “The Biggest Lie In Hustle Culture” - How Phones Are Quietly Aging You!In this episode, Bryan Johnson, a successful entrepreneur who sold Braintree Venmo, shares his journey of prioritizing health over hustle culture.23 Oct 2025 · 37 min