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The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR

by The Modern People Leader · English

Listen to interviews with CHROs, Chief People Officers, and other work experts on how they're pioneering the way that we work. They share what's working, what's not, and how they've gotten to where they're at in their careers.

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345 - Thumbtack Redefined Leadership, Then Rewired the Company for AI (Robert Lopez, VP, Head of People, Thumbtack)

Thumbtack’s VP Head of People explains how it redefined “leadership” into a four-part framework and embedded it into talent decisions, plus how AI is expanding leaders’ capacity and making HR…

11 Nov 2026 · 55m · 22 chapters

344 - A CPO Succession Masterclass: Katya Laviolette (Former CPO) & Gabrielle Caron (New CPO) of 1Password

Real CPO succession at 1Password—how Katya Laviolette (former CPO) operationalized a planned transition to Gabrielle “Gab” Caron (new CPO), avoiding “bench” hires that don’t actually take over.

6 Nov 2026 · 1h 6m · 26 chapters

343 - This CHRO Dismantled Recruiting. Here’s Why: Megan Barbier (CHRO, Xactly)

Megan Barbier, CHRO at Xactly, explains how she “dismantled” traditional HR recruiting by collapsing Talent Acquisition into “Talent Engagement,” redesigning workflows, roles, and the…

3 Nov 2026 · 50m · 29 chapters

The AI Career Track Is Coming | Live from HR Tech, Pt. 2

HR Tech live discussion on AI’s impact on work, focusing on change fatigue, task/skills redesign, AI fluency as a premium career skill, and how HR should lead AI adoption while preserving the human…

30 Oct 2026 · 49m · 24 chapters

Don’t Automate a Bad Process, Obliterate It | Live from HR Tech, Pt. 1

Work redesign for AI in HR—don’t automate bad processes; “obliterate” them by redesigning workflows and decision rights.

30 Oct 2026 · 54m · 22 chapters

341 - “80% of our Engineering Applicants Are Fake”: Inside the Candidate Fraud Crisis

Candidate fraud in hiring, especially engineering roles, driven by AI-enabled cheating and identity scams; how HR/recruiting teams detect it and redesign talent acquisition.

27 Oct 2026 · 58m · 20 chapters

340 - How Citizens Helps Leaders Build IQ, EQ, TQ, and MQ: Susan LaMonica (CHRO, Citizens)

Citizens CHRO Susan LaMonica explains how Citizens Financial Group built a refreshed leadership model (LQ) and culture after separating from Royal Bank of Scotland, emphasizing leadership development…

23 Oct 2026 · 46m · 19 chapters

339 - When People Grow, the Company Grows: Katarina Berg (Chief People Officer, On)

Performance development and growth mindset as the driver of company growth; how to set clear expectations, measure success, and manage change (including upskilling and off-skilling) without…

19 Oct 2026 · 58m · 24 chapters

338 - How Edward Jones Builds Inclusion into Everyday Business Decisions

Edward Jones’ approach to inclusion and accessibility as “everyday business decisions,” reframing D&I into an integrated inclusion/accessibility function that influences leadership behaviors, hiring,…

14 Oct 2026 · 49m · 22 chapters

337 - Who benefits from AI gains? (Andy Doyle, Chief People & Agent Officer at Kantar)

Kantar’s “future workforce” approach to agentic AI in HR—how benefits from AI gains should be shared across clients, shareholders, employees, and society, while maintaining ethics and quality.

9 Oct 2026 · 56m · 20 chapters

Build - Onboarding, L&D, & building in the AI era

How to redesign learning and onboarding in the AI era—shifting from input-based training to outcome-focused, scalable behavior change; using AI for research, synthesis, and content production while…

6 Oct 2026 · 57m · 21 chapters

335 - Why This CEO Says High Output Management No Longer Works in the AI Era

The CEO argues that classic management frameworks like Andy Grove’s High Output Management don’t fit the AI era.

2 Oct 2026 · 51m · 23 chapters

334 - The Change Episode: Laura McGann (Chief People Officer, Prosci)

How leaders and employees can navigate relentless, AI-driven organizational change by defining “change success” on the people side and using a diagnostic framework (ADKAR: Awareness, Desire,…

29 Sep 2026 · 1h · 31 chapters

333 - Vercel's 2-Week Review Cycle & Flight Risk Tool: Olivia Williams (Head of HR, Vercel)

Olivia Williams (Head of HR, Vercel) explains Vercel’s shift from a traditional 10–11 week, twice-yearly performance review process to a two-week review cycle, plus how Vercel uses internal tools for…

26 Sep 2026 · 55m · 23 chapters

332 - Deciding what to keep & what to kill as your company scales: Conor Sweeney, VP, Head of People & Talent, Form Health

How Form Health’s VP People & Talent, Conor Sweeney, decides what to retain vs. “kill” while scaling, focusing on culture, decision-making, trust, and people operations (job architecture/comp).

22 Sep 2026 · 1h 7m · 22 chapters

331 - Designing the org of the future: Alexis Fink (Advisor at OpenAI & Workvivo)

How org design should evolve for AI/robotics—shifting from “org charts” (who reports to whom) to “org models” (how work gets done, decision rights, and roles of machinery vs people).

18 Sep 2026 · 1h 3m · 24 chapters

330 - A career in pivots: Dean Carter on purpose, play, and taking big swings

Career “pivots” and leadership lessons about purpose, play, and taking big swings—how work can be playful, how to make high-stakes decisions, and how to build human-centered organizations amid AI and…

17 Sep 2026 · 1h 5m · 29 chapters

329 - Why Match is tripling down on Gen Z talent: D.V. Williams (Chief People Officer, Match Group)

Match Group’s Chief People Officer D.V. Williams explains why Match is “doubling and tripling down” on Gen Z talent, aligning people strategy with product strategy, and modernizing development…

11 Sep 2026 · 54m · 16 chapters

328 - Christy Lake (CAO, Twilio) on designing for a future nobody can see

Designing HR/people strategy for an AI-driven future “nobody can see,” using a three-horizon planning model (confident near-term actions, 12-month bets, and longer-term “watch the space” ideas).

8 Sep 2026 · 56m · 23 chapters

327 - Putting AI agents on the org chart: Becks Port (Chief People Officer, Okta)

Okta Chief People Officer Bex (Becks) Port discusses how AI agents should be treated like “digital co-workers” and therefore managed like employees—by placing relevant agents on the org chart,…

4 Sep 2026 · 45m · 16 chapters

326 - Never let an LLM do the math on comp. Do this instead.

BCom’s approach to compensation and performance decisions using “intentional AI,” emphasizing human-in-the-loop control, auditability, and separating rule-based logic, statistical models, and LLM…

2 Sep 2026 · 59m · 21 chapters

325 - The M&A Field Guide for CPOs: Heather Dunn (Chief People Officer, Brex)

Heather Dunn, Chief People Officer at Brex, discusses how to lead people strategy during M&A—especially the speed, diligence workload, communications, retention, and cultural integration after Brex’s…

28 Aug 2026 · 1h 2m · 22 chapters

324 - The GRIT Performance Framework: Patsy Mangan (Chief People Officer, Scribd)

Episode 324 features Patsy Mangan, Chief People Officer at Scribd, discussing how Scribd designs performance and culture around flexibility plus clarity.

25 Aug 2026 · 58m · 24 chapters

323 - How ServiceNow's AI heat map answers "what does my job look like in 3 years": Brandon Roberts (SVP Talent Strategy & Workforce Transformation, ServiceNow)

ServiceNow’s AI heat map and agent-based tools for answering “what does my job look like in 3 years,” and how HR redesigns roles and upskills people as AI automates tasks.

21 Aug 2026 · 1h 3m · 25 chapters